Xpengs CEO shocked by Tesla's FSD tech in America; says 2025 is the year!
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- Xpengs CEO shocked by Tesla's FSD tech in America; says 2025 is the year!
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FSD never interested me. My mind has changed now that my elderly mother's driving is getting worrying. I have tried to talk to her about it but she is very defensive. I know the current version FSD would be driving way better than mum, I think FSD will be a fantastic benefit for older drivers.
My aunt waited until after she ran over and killed an old woman before giving up her license.
I can see it being a benefit of FSD if I am driving tired and sleepy. There are plenty of roadside memorials erected on interstate highways on perfectly straight sections where they obviously fell asleep. They are of all ages.
@@jamesdaniel947tired, sleepy, sick, intoxicated, pregnant, ...
I'm 80+ and my driving skills have diminished some. My mind is still pretty sharp but my motor skills are not as good as a few years ago. I have a mild form of Parkinson's Disease. FSD even not yet perfected makes me a better driver especially on the freeway on long drives.
It’s only for the wealthy for at least five years.
Hardly anyone realizes the technical powerhouse that Xpeng is. This is a great video to bring that forward. I am invested in Xpeng. I believe they have tremendous potential in the long run. Thanks for sharing this info.
I lost money on investment of XPENG, their market share is squeezed by tense competition in China, and just failed and will fail continously with new models, from G6 to future MONA. BUT, if FSD is successful in China I will put my money in XPENG again.
One thing that would help is if they could get a standard marking code for roads and signs and even have transponders in the highway for the signs and road conditions and traffic that was communicated to the cars.
My MG4 surprised me the other day. A pedestrian was running across the road to the central grassed road divider on a dual carriageway. I expected him to stop because he’d seen me coming in the outer lane. He did stop. But my car slammed the brakes on. I didn’t expect it. It had never happened before. Full self driving is I hope better.
A lot of cars will detect pedestrians and brake.
@@mnhsty I have NEVER experienced this sudden powerful braking before. I was stunned and initially thought my electric motor had seized.
It's sad re Consumer Reports. Back in the day they were great, re evaluating cars anyway.
But their BS in recent years just makes it where you can't TRUST them. So they're worthless.
How much revenue for fake reviews does it TAKE to RUIN your long term reputation?
Always so good Sam. Thanks
When I tested FSD last month it was a mess. I couldn't get more than a few blocks without it doing something very stupid. I was constantly having to take over. on highways it was a little better but it was constantly changing lanes when it shouldn't.
What version? The version that I am running now is not the best either.
Xpeng CEO left Tesla stealing an earlier copy of Full Self Driving and Tesla tried taking him to court!
Mary Barra is Cruella de Vil
I was wondering what Xpengs was up to :)
Did Sam just say "sucks balls"? Didn't expect that with my morning coffee - but he is probably accurate.
If FSD is good enough, we could snooze in the back of a big SUV.
Correct capt obvious
Very good video-on the money!!!
Great video Sam
Glad you enjoyed it
Medicare will pay for FSD for elders as a health benefit.
In fact, many Chinese car critics have already gone to the United States to test FSD, including Americans who currently reside in China. After testing, they generally believed that the road conditions in the United States were too simple. If we classify the road conditions:
USA - Simple Difficulty
China - Normal Difficulty
India - Hell Difficulty
So they basically question whether FSD can be used normally outside of the United States, especially in developing countries.
Tesla's AI doesn't care how difficult it is. As long as you can get video samples of people driving in insane conditions it won't complain.
It's called "moving the goal posts". Useful for when your argument against gets smashed, but you're too stubborn to admit it.
With the experiences I have had, I rate China road conditions near as bad as Turkey... Ie, crazy sh@t happens sometimes😂
@@FoilingFrenzyI didn't find Turkey to have horrible roads. Difficult parking maybe but roads ok.
@@FoilingFrenzy 广州是中国交通最糟糕的城市，小鹏总部在广州，我相信小鹏能很好解决这个问题。
HW4 is just emulating HW3 at present.
i am using tesla fsd all the time, its drives safely, taking me everywhere
still supervised but I dont have to do the driving, it will get to level 4, 5 soon!🎉🎉🎉
not where I am... Its a mess. i have to take over constantly
Why would VW then invest billions in Rivian for their self drive?
FSD Full Automation . The Last Word are the Car Insurers . Will insurance companies write a policy for automation incapable of failing safe ?
If not Tesla will
How many "Insured Drivers" actually "Fail Safe?" Yet, they are "Offered Insurance!"
@@robertweekley5926 You know nothing of industrial machinery controls that have that goal . When a FSD controller fails and harms people / property the manufacturer will be sued.
Consumer Reports probably tested it under MB’s recommended rules.
Give it 3-5 years, and American roads will be filled with Teslas, Rivians and Chinese EVs of high quality loaded with advanced tech. Even solar cars are going to start making their way. And FSD will reach 99% effectiveness, and if future FSD upgrades included enhancements to visualization, that will be another game changer.
I just drove the Xpeng g6 for a week and just finished driving a Tesla model y for a couple of days ... and its NO WHERE NEAR Telsa.
While the Xpeng has a nice lane change feature and has a cute AI assistant, there were multiple instances where
- automated steering turned too tightly into a corner and then braked hard... Which was just terrible and I had to take over.
- saw something at the road side and jumped on the brakes And I need to accelerate manually.
- On the highway the automated driving kept wanting to shift into the high-speed lane blocking a vehicle travelling much faster. Maybe that's a setting?
There was also one occasion where I had to intervene at high speed when the vehicle mis-read lane markings and headed for the verge. That one was quite scary.
I think they are at least a couple of years behind.
I had stuff like that happen to me driving 12.3.6 for a few days.
In America we want to drive. I can't get laid that easily as in China.
When full self driving becomes a reality for more and more people, can I be driven home from the night out by my FSD equipped vehicle while 'over the limit', meaning no one in the vehicle is legally capable of driving? Will laws have to get changed?
And keep telling as it is, thanks.
I worked at Tesla for nearly 10 years and have driven FSD forever. I have it on my personal car. While it is wonderful at times, it is a complete shit show at other times. It is still many years away from getting to the point where you can actually trust it in all situations. If you actually drive it for a long time you will quickly realize what I am talking about.
Isn't Xpeng the company that bought stolen Tesla FSD source code from a chinese programmer working at Tesla? Didn't this also force Tesla to totally rewrite the software and change the hardware which negated the stolen source code ? Am I dreaming or did this really happen ?
Yes but XPeng grabbed it before Tesla switched to having AI write it instead of developers.
XPeng doesn't have the data.
That's an allegation that Tesla was unable to prove. XPeng volunteered to have they code checked by an independent 3rd party. Tesla was forced to settle with their ex-employee out of court. XPeng was never party to the case.
Yes they did
@@networm78 you think they would win in China lol, you know they don't care about that and only back who they want.
IINM, 'He' is pronounced like 'Her' in English.
👍👍
Could you please do a segment on how FSD works in snow or when there's no paint.
He would if he finds an article in electrek, like in this case.
There's youtube videos of people driving in snow.
Anyone who's familiar with Chinese nuances and XNGP knows that he's just being polite.
Elon Musk and the Tesla team kick ass
I agree. The roads were amazing... I drove up and down the coastline from Antalya to Bodrum three times ! It's the drivers that had the occasional problem with 🙂@RawandCookedVegan
What Madness?
You totally deserve it, hope they approach you sooner, thnx for the video, dude!
Thank you too!
His surname should sound more like “Her” not “He”
Did you try self driving taxi in china? There are already 1000 self driving taxi in service in wuhan
all geofenced and using LIDAR, very limited service available.
lol they stool the code from Tesla original, Tesla sued them about it.
Hes talking about FSD in China in 2025. It's not going to happen in the west.
You are reading from electrek. Don't pick and choose what you read.
It also states: _"Tesla has promised true self-driving capabilities in its models for years. It has yet to truly make good on that promise"_
Americans are voting for an administration - not a single man. The Dems have a solid team with policies that work for Americans. Trump's former cabinet are either in jail or don't want to work with him again. It's time for Americans to make the mature choice.
Don’t tell Sam that Cathie Wood is voting for Trump - she said this in a recent live interview
You’ve got to be the hardest working man on TH-cam. To produce so many consistently good episodes every week is very impressive!
Cheers mate
Evening mate
Consumer Reports sucks!!
XPENG's CEO is so polite to pretend to be amazed by Tesla's autonomous driving level 3. Just like a parent pretending that a kid's drawing is a masterpiece.
Viking, love your content but your Chinese name pronunciation is abysmal. He Xiaopeng’s name is pronounced HE=her XIAO=sheow PENG=pung. Please consult Pinyin romanization transliteration guides. It’s not that difficult. Chinese biggest language in the world by number of speakers.
I heard you are going to China, is that right? Then you can get a data of car insurance from various insurance companies in China (divided into fuel cars, hybrid cars, electric cars, commercial insurance, and compulsory traffic insurance). It would be best if you can also get the data of car fires handled by insurance companies. From these data, you can see the lies of the Chinese government and BYD. Of course, if you can get the data here, you will definitely not be able to return to Australia.
BYD CEO THINKS FSD A V LONG WAY OFF and it is. I'll do a £1000 bet with you Sam about FSD in 2025 - just have to define terms of what you think will be achieved. A public bet. Put your opinion on
.. the line.
Maybe place the bet on a Zoom call.
Agreed its way off
Isn't FSD still level 3? Its far away from the day you can put your kids in it & send them across town to Grandma. It can do Freeways & limited access roads where few emergency situations are likely. There are lots of common things Tesla's can't do, and most reviewers do not seek out difficult spots, nor do they track fails and go back and retest fails to see if FSD has overcome the problem. Short list, if humans california stop, FSD will too; FSD can't read any signs or hear sirens; doesn't react to emergency vehicles; FSD can't navigate parking garages, ferry boats, one lane roads w 2 way traffic, private roads & drives; nor where there is no wifi. 2025? Nah.
Do you really think such scenarios would have even crossed Sam's mind? 😁
@@hardi.howdy.983 Sure probably; I know I've commented on these sorts of issues so if he reads his comments he should have. But Sam is also more an advocate than an objective reviewer; he is using this as a means of support for his family which is fine; and he is invested in some of these BEV companies. I do think he could change to Green Viking and maybe get all manner of different makers help; and if EVs slip into a niche market; he can still go with hydrogen or hybrids or what ever comes along.
@litestuffllc7249 I used FSD in April. They removed the California stop. It doesn't need WiFi (I think you mean cellular which it only needs like Garmin to draw maps). The rest you are talking about are mostly the 1%. Shouldn't we be amazed it can handle the 99% well instead of upset it can't handle all the 1% yet?
@@someuser7501 How do you mean they removed the california stop? What I became aware I thin about that time is Elon got rid of the people who were putting stop signs and so on into the mapping; so now; unlesss somehow they now know were stops signs are - they will emulate a human; so they have been california stopping. Did they decide to rehire those people? Are you saying they fixed that? It can't read a sign is 1%? Perhaps you mean out of 100 miles drive only 1 mile will have an emergency vehicle, parking garage, or one of these less usual items come up but they come up much more frequently than 1% of drives.
@@someuser7501 They do need internet access - how do you think they get it somethin other than wireless internet oh maybe I should have said wireless technology but that is what Wifi means; it isn't assocaited with a particular frequency. Wireless packet radio - where do you think they get the mapping from? You don't have a digital map of the entire USA or Canada or Europe etc built into the FSD.
huawei is better in fsd
Ha Ha No.
@@mikewallace8087 i own both tesla and huawei m9.
Fantasy. FSD was just around the corner 10 years ago. Still nowhere near certified hands free FSD. Will take another decade to get full FSD hands free driving certification.
Robotaxi 8 /8-2024.......
It’s even closer now and will be a boon to disabled people, young people etc…
Never is more likely. Full self-driving requires predicting millions of traffic situations. Not possible to cover every scenario.
waymo already got it in San Francisco, the technology is already here
@hardi.howdy.983 Millions? Not that many if you generalise common scenarios. But each of these many scenarios don't have to be evaluated constantly. Fsd looks so so close, you know why!? Because it is!
Boring! No real FSD in sight!
You are boring 😂
Have you ever used FSD? Would I sleep while using the latest version? No. But If I did or I passed out I truly believe it would safely drive to the set destination and stop. Now it might piss off some cars around it who are annoyed at how long it can sit at a stop sign. 😂
The faster way to have a full self driving car - is to have a remote driver control the car over the internet remote control. So licensed chauffer from India or Balgadesh can probably do that for way less than the cost of FSD; and you could actuall get Level 5; full self driving where you could take a nap in the back seat. Now you may have to wake up if you have to plug in to charge or wifi is lost. FSD currently would be like hiring a 5 year old to drive; or maybe 4 years old is more like it.
Um latent reaction time is already a problem with people directly behind the wheel nevermind somebody on the other side of the planet.
@@someuser7501 hmm well they cybertruck wireless driving doesn't respond faster than 1/8th second so if that is good so is internet latency.
@litestuffllc7249 Hmm where did you hear it is 1/8 second? BTW that is more dependable than any internet connection to the other side of the planet...which can easily be sporadic at any time without warning.
FSD is _not ready_, stop trying to say it is.
Engaging with fellow women in this thread feels like being part of a movement, driving towards greater understanding and equality.🍓
You got sucked in by a Tesla click bait video.
FSD IS shit Human driving Will always be much safer. Imagine one of the sensors turns off AND someone IS killed?
It's never one sensor but huge amount of them with multiple power connection.
One in a billion chance the system will fail on its own.
FSD drove me to and from breakfast. The it drove me to and from dinner. It didn't seem like shit to me. It's not perfect, and it's not finished, but 90%+ of the times I intervene are for routing issues, not FSD. They use a modified version of Google Maps to do routing, and it's worse than any GPS device I have ever seen for routing. But FSD? That works pretty well. And I'm still on 12.3.6. If you think FSD is shit, and human driving will always be better, you're definitely a troll who has never used it, because I can tell you, it's already a better driver than about half the population where I live.
@@emmanuilushka Not it Tesla's case. I guess almost everybody else is using multiple sensors though. Tesla rely only on vision, which might be very stupid decision (just cost saving act).
@@shannon6876 Problem with AI based FSD is that if it hits to situation it does not have learning material, what will it do? In AI there seems to be always possibility for unexpected behaviour.