SUPPORT Secondary GUIDE - Why Support Is The Best Secondary Role - Lane Fundamentals & Roaming
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I wish we had a Coach Curtis for every role 😭😭
his friend Nathan for jungle's doin a pretty damn good job so far
Do you guys know a good coach for ADCs?
His information carries relevance throughout all roles.
@@pewdiepiefan462 I think CookieLolxx is great as ADC coach, not as in-depth as Coach but has informative full gameplays.
@@pewdiepiefan462 FNX Saber? I think is his tag on TH-cam. I got a lot of my ADC fundamentals from him and helped me understand the dynamics of the lane better
As a support main (who watches your videos as a mid secondary role) this video was truly amazing and I learn somethings about wave management and getting prio in lane that I've never thought about honestly. We truly can't take these free videos for granted thank you so much for the work you put in this one curtis and cupcake
Appreciate this man, definitely leveled up my sup game
I'm support main, never play mid. Watch Curtis' videos for tons of general tips.
But this. This is a gem! Thank you!
Biiig respect for this coach, was looking for a good guide on support and here it is
A lot of people, specially mid laners because of the nature of the role I guess, have this misconception that support is a "boring" role or something like that, because in their heads you have to "play for someone else" when it's not like that at all and you can contribute so much to your team.
Wow I just typed this in word for word and found this posted 3 hours ago. You have a great coaching channel. Thanks a lot!
OMG wow, I have been literally dying waiting for this! Feel like I've been held back a lot by my supp secondary, really excited to have more tools to improve!
I loved this video! Cupcake is a really smart player and does a good job explaining his thought process. The thing that I thought was most helpful was how he explained the goals of the support at each stage of the game. I'm a diamond ADC player and I found this so useful for understanding what my support "wants" to do ideally and how to play off of it. I also like the long form video, which gives Cupcake plenty of time to explain things in depth.
This is great, would love a similar thing for ADC.
Let’s GOOOO I’ve been waiting for more Cupcake ever since you had him on BBC.
This is the exact tool I needed to decide my secondary. Not only did I learn more about support, but also some other useful tools I can put into my mid game. If you secretly told me this was a how to win game by wave management video, I would believe it!
No way you did this Coach! Never seen an actual in depth guide of Support. Thank you and always great work!!!
Super insightful. I was doing mid/top but this is making me want to play support. Such great stuff to know
I used your videos to help my mid secondary, but support as my main role now has it's own video?!? too good to be true
The circle of life.. new coach Curtis vid up… loads of new knowledge gained! Big love!
I play jungle so I only get my secondary about once a month but I do enjoy playing support when I get it.
I go top/mid and I legit only get off role when autofilled jg
same, when support is my 1st i never get jg, when jg is my 1st i never get support, but the roles are so similar i can enjoy both
bruh when i seen dat hand @ 2:57 i imediately grabbed my bbc and started to stroke smh
FINALLYY COACH ! I WAS WAITING FOR IT SO LONG
finally a support video , lets go ♥
This is a video I didn’t know I needed from you. I actually have Support as a secondary behind Mid, so this is perfect
OMG FINALLY MORE SUPPORT CONTENT
THANK YOU SO MUCH, CURTIS!
This video made me start playing bard and I'm having so much fun right now lmao. I normally play mid but something about bard is just so soothing and fun
Bard is fuking awesome! I main him as support
I'm not yet half way through the video but something catch my hear. I think the recent changes to second tier turret with lots of gold reward makes second herald A LOT MORE WORTH IT and therefore a priority to get vision around even if it is the second herald.
As a support main this video was extremely valuable. Thanks Coach and Cupcake!
Thx man u don't know how i am very excited to see videos about support Role 😍
Coach Curtis does it again. Awesome video.
This is such a great and comprehensive guide! Thank you both so sooo much!
thanks for the content curtis, great as always
Iterestingly its for me the other way around. I am a support main, which wants to play more mid to get more variety out of league for me. Thats why i am subbed to your channel to get more info. Its interesting to see your main role from another roles perspective.
This was great! Would love to see even more support content, maybe you could apply league fundamentals through the eyes of a support so it applies to a wide range of roles and players
thank you for all the great information as always Curtis!
Great topic! I was looking for a video about secondary roles!
Oh wow.. at least now I know what I'll be watching at my work.
Cheers Curtis & Cupcake
19:25
CC: Do you remember this one at all?
Meanwhile, Cupcakes is wearing exactly the same outfit
I actually enjoyed this video even though I hate support, your video quality is top notch as always even bringing in your previous players for more insights.
Talking about the 24:30 about contesting bush, I know lots of pros also contest the bush but in long ranged matchups like Senna&Xayah vs like Aphelios&Bard can't they just let bard have the bush and instead play into River pocket, Aphelios still can't win a trade vs them, they can still abuse the fact they're double ranged to gain prio. I mostly play Zyra&Karma and do this most of the time in D1 EUW but ofc that is miles away from Cupcake but I think everything still plays out the same.
I needed this video, and the Coach delivers!
dude ur content is so good
supports fixing wave states?! that's a genius idea for the poor mid stuck in a freeze they need to break, love it
Amazing material for supports. How ironic that the most in-depth support content came from mid-lane coach.
Awesome video, I am a support main and I can't carry this will help me a lot.
Nice one coach!
Perfect timing.
BRO i just recently switched my secondary too supp... U really read minds tf
I'm a Seraphine main, it's really nice how versatile of a pick she is, can be played mid bot and support with a wide variety of builds and runes. I used to be sup primary mid secondary, then changed into mid primary bot secondary and now I'm bot primary mid secondary. My pool for bot is Sera, Ashe and Zeri. For mid Sera, Lux and Neeko. For sup Sera, Soraka and Lux
How do you read minds? I literally thought today about how it would be cool if you made a video about secondary role(s). Thanks for the content as always curtis, much appreciated.
dude. speaking as an ad carry. yes please send more people who main mid lane into bot lane. holy shit it is so much easier to make plays when your partner in the 2v2 has an actual intuition of how to play for lane advantage, export leads, and punish/defend enemy roams and dives.
why didnt I notice before, Its the video that I need.
Queuing up right now, gonna donate a lot less free vision this time
Really good video so far, am not finished with it yet though, will take some time.
nice when i began the game, i had two friends play top/jngl dual main for both and the other adc, so my friend said to play mid and i decided to secondary support (although adc friend swapped to sup so i rarely get to play sup)
That’s interesting cupcake says he like embodies the characteristics of a boar in a play pin. Back when I played overwatch. My dva was the embodiment of a Chihuahua. A lot of bark not much bite. U can breakshields but ur not doing much damage unless u barrel stuff or shoot a fat tank. Dva is nimble. Dva can’t fight outnumbered. But is incredibly confident with number advantage. Yea it’s interesting to draw parallels.
2.5 hours of Coach Curtis content
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great video
I learned mid with you and used jungle as my secondary since I played jungle when I first started playing league. But it's so rare to get mid that I accepted being a jungle main. Anyways, when I get support, I usually play one that can carry like Swain or Zyra.
I think there might be a shortage of jungle players or something, because I most often get my primary (mid), but when I take jungle secondary I seem to get it a lot, which makes me not want that as my secondary, since I want my main to be my main
you're the goat curtis, fucking legend
For those of us who lean more towards ADC second, any chance for a video in this style? Love the content btw
I advocate for Zyra being included into the "playmaking" grouping.
Picked her up early after i found myself becomming a support main and then slowly started to look down on any other champion xD
The problem with queing support secondary is you get it more then your main roll.
amazing content thanks a lot for this one !
I wish it worked that way. If I queue with support secondary, I get primary mid around 1/5-7 games. So I go top secondary. That way I either get mid or filled, usually.
Ye in low elo(I guess u are there based on ur comment, I am too) there are a lot of players playing top instead of support.
I queue ADC. I barely get it in a day and just play Ziggs or Karthus.
Would love a video on how to find champions to pick up and are worth investing time on
Always prioritize champs that you LOVE.
@@CoachCurtis I used to love playing bard but now he doesn't feel the same.. Reached masters with it peak.
Trying to learn top or mid.
Top:
I love Akali but she's in a terrible state right now.
Irelia is alright but she has so many matchups that are straight up unplayable.
Don't like fiora and camille just not my champions.
Mid:
Akali same issue as above
Ekko is alright but I dislike his pre 7/9 laning a lot
HUGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HELP TY CURTIS
Wise man says worst decision is better than indecisive
It’s funny I tried around a lot on that. I play ori/Sandra style of Champs. After a lot of testing I went adc secondary or play soraka supp. Never thought this might be objectively right but you really ground that decision
Thank you so much for this vids! Really helpful information. Even for me, around MT d1 soloq support :3
i guess my question is since support is a common fill role how often would you expect to get your secondary role (if you queue mid/support) in ranked?
not that often tbh as much as any other role in my experience
Depends on ur rank and region tbh(since lanes have diff play rates in diff Elos and regions)
You should still get it pretty often if you pick it secondary, I wouldn't worry too much about it
The problem with playing support secondary is that it will become support only unless your primary is jungle.
:DDDD Morgana was my first mastery7 and blitz is my 2nd I wouldn't say they are hard to master. I love them and they are not situational. 1 Morgana or Blitz Q can decide a team fight just so OP. I suggest every support player to master them, they are fun and op.
Support and Jungle are the easiest roles to climb with, not only you can set your teammates ahead but you have way more diversity while playing those roles and the ammount of decissions you can take due to the lack of lane and no having boundaries to farm makes it a great role for carrying games by setting ganks, invades, dives, etc. Im not saying the role is easy tho, just commenting that is a very easy ride in Solo Q if you play it proplerly.
Ive been doing this for the past week, played around 25-30 games and only got mid 5 times
Excelent video
I wouldn't mind playing support as a secondary, but I would literally get it every game since my main lane is mid.
Hey Coach, have you ever thought about starting a podcast? Maybe with someone else or having some guests over, I think you would do great with an informational / educational / analysis typo of League podcast.
Cheers!
He has a podcast alreqdy
I already have one th-cam.com/users/BrokenByConcept
@@CoachCurtis amazing, thanks! I’ll most definitely be checking it out.
oh MY GOD SUPPORT GUIDE WHAT THE FUCK LETSGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Need an up to date mid one please! Love your videos
Coach has a ton of videos on midlane, the fundamentals definitely hold up my friend, you will learn a lot from those videos, theres also very indepth video guides to champs 2-3hrs plus for like twisted fate, viktor, qiyana i dont remember what else. There is also a base fundamental series which consists of 7 episodes, ihighly recommend you check that out to get some advanced concepts in your head even if you understand the basic side of them. Hope this helps
@@Peaceofmind899 A mid version of this video would he amazing for me, to see the thought process of someone who’s good at the game and how that evolves depending on the game state, only Curtis can really give us this in a top quality way, he’s doing god’s work. Thanks for your comment and wish you the best on the rift!
support is the best primary role
Are you ever gonna make a Viego guide like you've made for Qiyana? I'd love to see it
good work. u should def do one bout adc.
Quick question do you plan on doing a second part to this for those with adc as there secondary or is it a one time deal? either way really enjoying the video.
If you play a lot of Morgana mid, for example, would you not want to pick her for support? You have her as a niche pick but this player would be very comfortable piloting her. Or do you think that using her in such a different way would be confusing for muscle memory etc. ?
Hmmm, I think it'd still be worth playing her support BUT with another support as backup
I wish Primary role always had the same chance no matter what secondary I pick.
Currently it seems like picking Mid/Bot might be 60:40 yet Mid/Sup is like 40/60.
I don't think this is going to work well because if you take the least popular role in the game as secondary role, that means that you'll end up getting support most of your games and will almost never get to play mid. At that point you'd just become a support main rather than a mid main.
Just reset the queue if the time exceeds the estimated time, or if someone dodges and you shouldn't get secondary too often
Coach Curtis, I know maybe this wont interest you but, would you be able to do an Ivern guide? He is one of my favorite characters and it makes me sad barely anyone plays him :( I also want to be able to climb in low elo.
40:40, what if the enemy disrespects lack of river control and aggros Aphelios anyway? What's the punish?
I main Support Secondary :O
Can’t help to wonder about this: What if the picks I am trying to main can also be played top? My hypothesis is that even if I don’t get mid I will still be able to work on champion mastery and all the things that I need to work on without suffering too much from the matchup? I’m thinking the duo of Akali and Irelia. Maybe a Pyke if I ended up in support?
As a support main, is it worth learning other roles on an alt account to get a more wholistic view of the game, or would there more learning in pushing higher ranks as support alone?
can we get this for every role👺
can we use this as a guide on how to play supports in general?
As a mid lainer of plays mostly ahri, vex and yone. Would you say I'd be better suited at adc or sup as my offrole. Trying to work out if I'm more cerebral or not
Who would be a good coach for top lane?
If you main someone like irelia, jayce or ryze who can also play top do you think the idea of support/adc being the best 2nd role still applies?
So, what’s your opinion about APCs for off-role Bot as a mage mid player? There’s some roster overlap like Veigar, Ziggs, Swain, etc.
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Hi Coach, love your vids. I know you've probably answered this a million times, but how important is it to learn a mage for mid? I'm a top lane main who wants to try transitioning to mid because I feel I can make an impact earlier in the game and climb more quickly compared to top. I'm horrible at mages so I plan on playing melee champions (Diana and Pantheon) and roaming a lot. Would it be too detrimental for me if I don't invest the time to learn a mage?
Can you go more in depth for carry mage support play, ie Xerath, Veigar, Brand?
There aren’t cons to dodging as far as i know. Playing less league is a huge upside if anything
I've always been Mid / supp or Supp / Mid
Which software do you use to use markers on videos and such?