I hope you all enjoyed the video and learned some new information! This was a fun one to make, especially because it gives me the chance to see how far my content has come. Let me know all your thoughts down below and have a great week chooms!
I am hoping they do the events leading up to the AHQ disaster as a live action movie. Now what would be really neat though is if Cyberpunk 2079 or whatever will be Project Orion takes place during a corporate war or has said war within the storyline.
I always wondered if V is a better merc than Blackhand was…I mean if you do everything in the game..V has quite the resume…he stole the Relic (wasn’t his fault how it ended,he would’ve stole it easily if it weren’t for Yorinobu)..Downing the Kang Tao AV…wiping out the Voodoo Boys…bullying every gang in Night City..doing hundreds of gigs for fixers..beating a boxing world champion…kidnapping Hanako Arasaka..beating Oda and Smasher the 2 most elite bodyguards in Arasaka…single-handedly destroying Arasaka in “I don’t fear the reaper” ending..did jobs for politicains like Peralez…dude is a fucking legend
Saved the NUS president from being camptured and battle possibly the most powerful netrunner of his generation while they were experiencing cyberpsychosis
Considering that Morgan Blackhand is likely still alive in 2077 (couple of hints in game), and Adam Smasher dies as a result of V's action - Smasher failed to prove that machine is better than human :) Blackhand outlived him
Doubt it since 1.) Pondsmith mentions that Blackhand has more cyberware, meaning that he's only alive because he's relying on implants and 2.) V (the majority of players anyways) is as chromed out as Smasher when they fight him. So if anything, Smasher is proven right in that machine is better than flesh. Cyberpunk is a grimdark universe after all. Nothing short of spitting on idealism will suffice.
@@pillarmenn1936I had minimal cyberware when I fought Smasher because I didn't like or need most of it. And I was running a netrunner character. Smasher died because he relied on tech in my playthrough. I hacked the shit out of him. Good ol poison damage
Be interesting what they do with him in Orion. If he's still with Militech he might show up given that Arasaka's departure leaves Militech free to be CP's next antagonist
While playing Cyberpunk 2077, Morgan Blackhand was my inspiration, using as less cyberware as possible. As much as it made the game harder, it also made me feel more immerse and really feeling just how much a person with no cyberware can struggle but also how much greater the satisfaction of achieving something is.
Morgan still has quite a few military cyberware on himself. Sandvistan, cyberoptic, neural processor, upgraded tissue and skeleton, nanobot that heal him, his arm cyberware is quite the Batman belt in term of gadget and quite a few more. The guy is still heavily chrom
I'm a cyberpunk nut, and your lore videos are an even better way to soak it up, besides reading source books. Your videos about speculation are awesome as well.
@@OSUnification I did a partial look at Weyland for my What Makes a night city legend video. So far, my deep dive has only included Blackhand and Spider, unless you count my old Silverhand story video/ theories on others
There's just something about the cp world that's so alluring. I got moments where I wish we were in a similar reality so I could get some chrome arms but then remember what happened to Evelyn. Im a sucker for futuristic worlds like cp, bladerunner, total recall.
@@DarkWraithKevin yes. However the theory is that they took over Morgan's body at some point because in the files for Mr blue eyes they call him Morgan blackhand, if it was simply rogue ai I don't see any reason for his eyes to always be blue, but since he used to be human that would make sense as that's probably how the ai sees through Morgan
@@illusions500 I'll never understand why *everything* has to be the cornerstone of lore in this game and (X) person can't just be some mysterious, benevolent figure. If that's the case please enlighten me on Maelstrom cyberpsycho quest; I must hear your cultured wisdom on that matter. 'Jokes' aside, do you really think they would just throw away Morgan Blackhand away like that? Possibly the most interesting original Pondsmith character? No dude, they're saving him for something big like another anime or perhaps a mentor character similar to Silverhand. Did you know Mr. Blue Eyes is in the Orbital Airport at the end of Phantom Liberty. Better get your tin foil hats out and whatever you do, don't drink the tap water.
Shed a tear a min ago as I go to bed as I'm now 32 years old playing cyberpunk 2077 as myself and this game will never be the same again much love to all you chooms
Considering most of the endings involve arasaka leaving night city and Militech effectively filling Its geopolitical vaccume on the west Coast. It would be cool to see BlackHand return as Militech's own version of Adam Smasher; perhaps being sent after us because we've made an enemy of Militech/Zetatech
Hope the sequel explores Morgan blackhands past , since Johnny fabricated all the prior memory events, he actually was cut down in the arasaka building, by smasher in the first encounter not on the rooftop and spider murphy saved his memory construct while he was dieing. Seems to be more related to blackhands vedetta againts corps and the manipulation of constructs made by mikoshi.
I'm not sure Johnny fabricated the memories. I think Arasaka did. We have numerous instances in the game of memories being faked entirely by corporate entities, which leads me to think that parts of Johnny were simply rewritten to deliberately obscure Blackhand's involvement. Why is anyone's guess, but we know the Johnny engram can't code himself, so, how would he fake that material? HE can't. He's a program. He cannot actually delude himself and lacks the capacity to create it; hence, it's something someone else grafted on to him. Which, when you consider the goals of the Mikoshi program (aside from resurrecting old man Arasaka) were making assets useful to Arasaka, makes a weird kind of sense. Silverhand would never be "a useful asset". They'd have to completely rewrite him for that. But notice that most of Silverhand's memories we see are ones that were of incidents that were, if not publically known, widespread knowledge. We literally never see him in private in a manner that is completely outside of something Arasaka might be aware of. We only see events Arasaka could viably put a spin on and thus be able to get actual data on how changing this or that affects someone's mind.
@@maxgehtdnixan4913 So the details of Alt's 'scene' are widely known? C'mon man lol, I see where you're trying to go but I just don't think it's true. If it's anything then I would think it's Johnny's narcissism rewriting his memories. It doesn't make a weird kind of sense, or any sense for that matter, for Arasaka to be involved. Alt even says that Johnny is an unreliable narrator; Mike Pondsmith says this too and he takes it a step further by saying Johnny was on his way towards cyber psychosis. Silverhand isn't to be trusted
@@DarkWraithKevin I never said he was trustworthy. I just think he's more a puppet and a guinea pig than he's consciously aware of. One of the big sub-plots in CP 2077 is memory editing and to me, with Johnny taking Morgan's role in much of his recollection, combined with the inconsistencies, it seems that he may have been an early test subject for that. Basically, that they used him to practise what was later used on, among others, the Peralez', possibly Lizzy Wizzy and the k-pop group in the Kerry quest.
@@DarkWraithKevinThey had access to his memories as they were and could alter them, and literally had Alt herself long enough to use and kill her. Anything he knew they knew and they could change any of it. A large part of the game is even Judy telling you how she can erase, alter, and manipulate BDs to make them feel however she wants the buyer to feel. You think Arasaka can't alter memories when that's literally Judy's entire job?
By the way guys it’s a very high chance that Max Mike is Blackhand. Not only are they the same person Irl, but if you listen to max mikes radio station broadcasts; he knows A LOT of stuff and the one thing he expresses frustrations the most on, is the lies surrounding the arasaka bombing. At the end of one of his broadcasts talks he literally says if you want to make it in night city, “become a solo. It worked for me in the past.” I mean, pretty obvious to me but idk I know there is people who disagree with everything
@@cookdislander4372Maximum Mike is a radio personality you can sometimes hear, he's played by Mike Pondsmith, and his content is mostly about different conspiracies.
@@JudgeNicodemus I'll have to pay attention next playthrough. When Phantom liberty drops this Tuesday New Zealand time I'll listen out for this guy. I know Mike's voice from researching cyberpunk, he's that black dude yeah? The creator? Surprised I missed this. Must be too busy admiring my car and constantly going "woaaah" at the graphics 😆 not paying attention
It's wild how all this old shit could be what led to us meeting Johnny at all. If not for the favor Johnny might owe Morgan for saving his old bandmate. This shits wild how interconnected everything is 💕
@thebigenchilada678 Hanako Arasaka is 80 in-game. She seems pretty fine. Something tells me the solo of solos in possession of a copy of the one technology that allows for you to essentially cheat death by body hopping has somehow figured that out.
I’ve fully burrowed through the cyberpunk rabbit hole. I love your and WiseFish’s channels. I love exploring the lore, world and people that make it up. As well as hear more than one opinion and see different perspectives or find something that was missed. You’re both fantastic content creators
imagine a morgan blackhand movie showing all the events till he's MIA but with the style of 90/80s anime AND its actually thought up and well made creatively with alot of details from past cyberpunk things
He absolutely deserves Legend status. They don't know he's alive and holy shit, if he does show up alive? The man that fought Smasher hand to hand with minimal chrome atop an Arasaka headquarters as it exploded beneath him in nuclear fire? AND SURVIVED?! LEGENNNNNNND.
Nice intro dude. Never thought Morgan ever did return to Militech - they tried to off him! Several times. Using several methods. Including the nuke. Part of my opinion really does come down to actually liking CyberGen ':). Personally, I hope he's off sipping Martinis somewhere nice. But he's probably on the run from everyone after him now. More than likely it'll lead him right back to NC in the end. Hope Max Mike finishes Morgan's story soon. I'm really curious to know the fates of more 2020 characters - so far we only really have Rogue and Boa Boa. :/ Some of the Forlorn Hope from Red too.
Dataminers once found, that model of Mr Blue Eyes was marked as Morgan Blackhand in files, but he had no black hand actually. So probably, CDPR planned to introduce Blackhand, but then decided to step back and reused already existing model for another character. Still, there is possibility, that Blackhand was copied by liberated Alt and turned into engram, and we also know, that AI controlled NightCorp actually has technology to gently install or modify personality in living body (Peralez family second quest, Sandra Dorset side quest and Harry the Prophet's side quests), while worshipping two grand AIs (one is Alt and another is referenced as male, so could be a Mr Night or Blackhand in form of an AI). Anyway, CDPR's intention to add the Blackhand into game is kind of a confirmation, that he survived the HQ accident.
Okay, I've had these thoughts about Morgan Blackhand and Cyberpunk 2077 lore in general. So I'm just going to just share them. I don't think there was ever anything official (or even any fan theory) about this but I've always felt that there is a rough concept of a good/human/no cyberware VS evil/inhuman/no ganic scale. It's not really in the game but there's quite a few sources (datashards) that subtlety show the player who their V can be. Your V can be a merc like Morgan Blackhand (good, non-lethal, passive, minimal cyberware,humanity) or like like Adam Smasher (evil, enjoys killing, cruel, full borg, inhuman) To be continued....
The people I take out as V are brutal sick monsters. I save non-lethal for Cyberpsychos and high profile targets. Everybody else better hope I use non-lethal quick hacks
This was a nostalgic treat. I own, but have yet to play 2077. However, I used to run and absorb all the lore for the Cyberpunk RPG in the 90s (Shadowrun as well). I hadn't thought about Morgan Blackhand in the longest time and I'd avoided learning too much about the game. It's strange that I haven't thought about him because in the early product, he was all over the place. Moreso than Silverhand even I'd say. Easily. It was great to hear this recounting and have it all come flooding back now that I'm about to engage with the game. Also, it makes me feel super old, because this was when I was a teen and working at a hobby shop that let me order whatever roleplaying games I wanted. Bet that kind of thing doesn't exist anymore either. Think I'm going to go turn to dust now. Very old dust. (Why have I waited so long to play 2077? I was waiting for the studio to finish it.)
Despite the technical issues cyberpunk was an amazing experience even at launch. Did I hate the crashes, glitches and overall poor state.. hell yeah. But the lore, the overall story and potential was there from day 1. You will not be disappointed.
I think we're going to see him instead of smasher in the sequel. Assuming the secret ending is the Canon one, smasher is dead but blackhand's whereabouts are unknown
Great content again, my theory is Morgan Blackhand should be the main playable in the sequel, or that'd be a badazz idea, or feature him similarly to how Silverhand was used in the first game.
I just hope we get to see more of Morgan Blackhand in a possible sequel to 2077 or a spin-off. So far, after learning what I have about him, he’s quickly become my favorite character in the Cyberpunk universe. He’s almost like a futuristic version of the Punisher.
It would be a dream come true for Pondsmith if they got Clooney for a live action! I hope they do more animated shows though. Sort of like an anthology
I have a hope that the confirmed live action TV show they’re doing will follow Blackhand after the AHQ bombing and whatever story goes on from there. We’d also learn about how things went down with AHQ from his perspective in flashbacks where you would see cameos of known people. The B story in the show would follow Rogue and her journey to becoming queen of the Afterlife. I keep picturing Henry Cavill as Blackhand…
I know I don't have have as many followers as you but I had to give yah a shout on my channel for being a main choom choom especially near my birthday much love choom here's to many years to come of lore and speculation!!
@@LayedBackGamers the 18th choom! And thanks bro lol just love the content you make brother man that and the convos definitely definitely enjoy the convos!!
Have you done any research on Doctor Paradox, or Maximus Mikes Radio Brodcasts. Both are pretty cool to listen to but wasn’t sure if there was more to these characters from the books and table top
@@LayedBackGamers it was the epilogue convo. If you kill so mi. When you approach him, something like "the nusa send you to kill me? Tie off loose ends?" Kind of a joke. And he goes "you think if i wanted you dead youd know i was coming? Youre good but youre no blackhand" And i immediately searched cuz that made him sound like a stone cold killer.
Did you see the new cinematic trailer?? Do you believe that’s Blackhand or have we gotten a name for idris character? I know mike made Blackhand based off his self
We have, Elbas character is named Solomon Reed he used to be a NUSA agent. So it is a new character but nonetheless he seems well written and interesting. Perhaps he has met Blackhand in the past or has some info on him though!
The new ending that unlocks at the end the game after playing phantom liberty is interesting. Spoilers for those that don't want to know. V is able to survive by having the relic surgically removed but at the cost of not being able to use combat cyberware anymore and wakes up 2 years later in 2079 the removal of the relic fried all of their nerves so they can now use only basic implants. Solomon Reed offers V a job at the FIB. V is now a government asset. If Cyberpunk Orion continues Vs story i think it would be cool if V is then trianed by Morgan Blackhand. That would be very interesting i think but we'll have to wait and see.
Это если не считать того что Ви под управлением игрока сам выбирает какой хром ему ставить, так что все зависит от игрока, да и у Ви визуально внешность не особо меняется, так что думаю он не намерен становиться боргом
I figure the same and made a video about it, the main part making me think so is his apparent sudden appearance in the DaiOni armor. Which wasn't stated at all during his appearance in the lab. But maybe that was just a detail initially excluded and he was in the armor. There's also always the chance he swapped armor in between since he had modules for fast swaps and also still had Shaitans Biopod from the lab
I hope this isn’t a spoiler but we pretty much know who he is due to data mining. However, since it’s data mining it could be a scrapped idea so it may not be canon. But Morgan black hand is Mr. Blue Eyes. They use the same character model except in the flashback model he doesn’t have the glowing blue eyes. My theory is he’s being controlled by a rogue AI being used as a proxy to move about and establish power in the human world. But again this is based on data mining so they may have changed their minds about this route. Especially with Peralez mission it’s theorized AI are trying to brainwash humans. We can see Morgan Blackhand/Mr. Blue Eyes watching us.
Wasn't the datamining "evidence" simply that the hair of Mr. Blue Eyes is labeled blackhand or something. I don't really see this as any hard prove that Blue Eyes is Morgan Blackhand.
I didn’t know anything about a Morgan black hand till now and I don’t have phantom liberty my v doesn’t even have basic upgrades to their cyberware and even that I haven’t gotten her any cyberware after vik installed the kiroshi implants
I can imagine some sort of hint or mention, but no, I highly doubt that he'll actually be in the expansion. Hopefully, he'll be in the upcoming sequel.
There's shard with his book on it. Few mentions suring dialogs in Afterlife, Jackie mentioned him few times. And after the gig in Arasaka hotel - almost nothing.
Morgan Black Hand and Mr Blue Eyes are Rumored to be the same person but if it this holds water or not I'm not sure but I would think these characters are so important they would have met sooner or later I imagine
It's a real shame that they would just let go these iconic characters meanwhile doing some (imho) cheap-ass freaks except Johnny himself and a small list of others. It's just unfair
I hope you all enjoyed the video and learned some new information! This was a fun one to make, especially because it gives me the chance to see how far my content has come. Let me know all your thoughts down below and have a great week chooms!
I truly believe you can make a Morgan Blackhand build.
I am hoping they do the events leading up to the AHQ disaster as a live action movie. Now what would be really neat though is if Cyberpunk 2079 or whatever will be Project Orion takes place during a corporate war or has said war within the storyline.
I always wondered if V is a better merc than Blackhand was…I mean if you do everything in the game..V has quite the resume…he stole the Relic (wasn’t his fault how it ended,he would’ve stole it easily if it weren’t for Yorinobu)..Downing the Kang Tao AV…wiping out the Voodoo Boys…bullying every gang in Night City..doing hundreds of gigs for fixers..beating a boxing world champion…kidnapping Hanako Arasaka..beating Oda and Smasher the 2 most elite bodyguards in Arasaka…single-handedly destroying Arasaka in “I don’t fear the reaper” ending..did jobs for politicains like Peralez…dude is a fucking legend
Dunno how many of the side missions are canon, so the boxing bit might not be true, but what V does in just the main campaign? Fucking legend
Saved the NUS president from being camptured and battle possibly the most powerful netrunner of his generation while they were experiencing cyberpsychosis
@@LintyShinobi Yeah I just finished Phantom Liberty…V is the best merc in NC history no question
@@donchi1234 I like Cyberpunk 2077 as much as the next guy. But what your saying is fucking heresy.
@@aaronlaughter6471 why?😂🤷🏽♂️
Morgan Blackhand is so far, my favorite known character in Cyberpunk. He is what a dystopian world needs.
Considering that Morgan Blackhand is likely still alive in 2077 (couple of hints in game), and Adam Smasher dies as a result of V's action - Smasher failed to prove that machine is better than human :) Blackhand outlived him
Doubt it since 1.) Pondsmith mentions that Blackhand has more cyberware, meaning that he's only alive because he's relying on implants and 2.) V (the majority of players anyways) is as chromed out as Smasher when they fight him.
So if anything, Smasher is proven right in that machine is better than flesh. Cyberpunk is a grimdark universe after all. Nothing short of spitting on idealism will suffice.
@@pillarmenn1936I had minimal cyberware when I fought Smasher because I didn't like or need most of it. And I was running a netrunner character. Smasher died because he relied on tech in my playthrough. I hacked the shit out of him. Good ol poison damage
@@chrismanuel9768 My V also despised chrome, the only thing he had was cybereyes which you can't remove and a revolver.
Be interesting what they do with him in Orion. If he's still with Militech he might show up given that Arasaka's departure leaves Militech free to be CP's next antagonist
*..Of course he’s still alive..*
The onesided beef between smasher and black hand is hilarious to me
While playing Cyberpunk 2077, Morgan Blackhand was my inspiration, using as less cyberware as possible. As much as it made the game harder, it also made me feel more immerse and really feeling just how much a person with no cyberware can struggle but also how much greater the satisfaction of achieving something is.
I wanna do a morgan black hand build.
Good luck on the recent patch. Armor being tied to cyberware kinda hinders that
@ashirii8347 I know. So far I think I'll just use the passive cyberware slots and not use the arms slot and operating system slot.
Yo same. Made sure I was using less cyberware, less guns & weapons as possible. Tribute to the legend.
Morgan still has quite a few military cyberware on himself. Sandvistan, cyberoptic, neural processor, upgraded tissue and skeleton, nanobot that heal him, his arm cyberware is quite the Batman belt in term of gadget and quite a few more. The guy is still heavily chrom
I'm a cyberpunk nut, and your lore videos are an even better way to soak it up, besides reading source books. Your videos about speculation are awesome as well.
I'm glad you're enjoying them and that I have your support choom! What Legend would you want to see next?
Got any source books you'd recommend?
@LayedBackGamers Ugh I can't remember each video I've watched. Did you do the source look on Weyland?
@@OSUnification I did a partial look at Weyland for my What Makes a night city legend video. So far, my deep dive has only included Blackhand and Spider, unless you count my old Silverhand story video/ theories on others
There's just something about the cp world that's so alluring. I got moments where I wish we were in a similar reality so I could get some chrome arms but then remember what happened to Evelyn. Im a sucker for futuristic worlds like cp, bladerunner, total recall.
I feel like Jon Bernthal would do blackhand justice for any future dlc or games
There won’t be any “future dlc”
@@mkv2718 No, but there is a confirmed Sequel
hugh jackman 😎
Or Karl Urban tbh
@@TheSymbiot3VenomThat we’ll see in 20 years?
Bro reads shards on our behalf… gotta love him
imagine being so badass that adam smasher consider you as a rival but you didn't even care of him
blackhand is the real giga chad
Having Johnny Silverhand and Morgan Blackhand together would give me a whitehand
Underrated comment.
I hope Blackhand is a central character in the sequel. He's the biggest missing icon.
Well considering the theory that he is Mr blue eyes most likely being true I'm sure he will
@@illusions500 Nah Blue Eyes is a rogue AI
@@DarkWraithKevin yes. However the theory is that they took over Morgan's body at some point because in the files for Mr blue eyes they call him Morgan blackhand, if it was simply rogue ai I don't see any reason for his eyes to always be blue, but since he used to be human that would make sense as that's probably how the ai sees through Morgan
@@illusions500 I'll never understand why *everything* has to be the cornerstone of lore in this game and (X) person can't just be some mysterious, benevolent figure. If that's the case please enlighten me on Maelstrom cyberpsycho quest; I must hear your cultured wisdom on that matter.
'Jokes' aside, do you really think they would just throw away Morgan Blackhand away like that? Possibly the most interesting original Pondsmith character? No dude, they're saving him for something big like another anime or perhaps a mentor character similar to Silverhand.
Did you know Mr. Blue Eyes is in the Orbital Airport at the end of Phantom Liberty. Better get your tin foil hats out and whatever you do, don't drink the tap water.
@@DarkWraithKevin you're embarrassing yourself so I'm exiting the conversation
Shed a tear a min ago as I go to bed as I'm now 32 years old playing cyberpunk 2077 as myself and this game will never be the same again much love to all you chooms
Considering most of the endings involve arasaka leaving night city and Militech effectively filling Its geopolitical vaccume on the west Coast. It would be cool to see BlackHand return as Militech's own version of Adam Smasher; perhaps being sent after us because we've made an enemy of Militech/Zetatech
Hope the sequel explores Morgan blackhands past , since Johnny fabricated all the prior memory events, he actually was cut down in the arasaka building, by smasher in the first encounter not on the rooftop and spider murphy saved his memory construct while he was dieing. Seems to be more related to blackhands vedetta againts corps and the manipulation of constructs made by mikoshi.
I'm not sure Johnny fabricated the memories. I think Arasaka did. We have numerous instances in the game of memories being faked entirely by corporate entities, which leads me to think that parts of Johnny were simply rewritten to deliberately obscure Blackhand's involvement. Why is anyone's guess, but we know the Johnny engram can't code himself, so, how would he fake that material? HE can't. He's a program. He cannot actually delude himself and lacks the capacity to create it; hence, it's something someone else grafted on to him. Which, when you consider the goals of the Mikoshi program (aside from resurrecting old man Arasaka) were making assets useful to Arasaka, makes a weird kind of sense.
Silverhand would never be "a useful asset". They'd have to completely rewrite him for that. But notice that most of Silverhand's memories we see are ones that were of incidents that were, if not publically known, widespread knowledge. We literally never see him in private in a manner that is completely outside of something Arasaka might be aware of. We only see events Arasaka could viably put a spin on and thus be able to get actual data on how changing this or that affects someone's mind.
@@maxgehtdnixan4913 So the details of Alt's 'scene' are widely known? C'mon man lol, I see where you're trying to go but I just don't think it's true. If it's anything then I would think it's Johnny's narcissism rewriting his memories. It doesn't make a weird kind of sense, or any sense for that matter, for Arasaka to be involved. Alt even says that Johnny is an unreliable narrator; Mike Pondsmith says this too and he takes it a step further by saying Johnny was on his way towards cyber psychosis. Silverhand isn't to be trusted
@@DarkWraithKevin I never said he was trustworthy. I just think he's more a puppet and a guinea pig than he's consciously aware of. One of the big sub-plots in CP 2077 is memory editing and to me, with Johnny taking Morgan's role in much of his recollection, combined with the inconsistencies, it seems that he may have been an early test subject for that. Basically, that they used him to practise what was later used on, among others, the Peralez', possibly Lizzy Wizzy and the k-pop group in the Kerry quest.
@@DarkWraithKevinThey had access to his memories as they were and could alter them, and literally had Alt herself long enough to use and kill her. Anything he knew they knew and they could change any of it. A large part of the game is even Judy telling you how she can erase, alter, and manipulate BDs to make them feel however she wants the buyer to feel. You think Arasaka can't alter memories when that's literally Judy's entire job?
@@chrismanuel9768 Incanon: Yeah sure but I just don't see a point to Saburo doing any of that. Also, Brain Dance ≠ Relic
By the way guys it’s a very high chance that Max Mike is Blackhand. Not only are they the same person Irl, but if you listen to max mikes radio station broadcasts; he knows A LOT of stuff and the one thing he expresses frustrations the most on, is the lies surrounding the arasaka bombing. At the end of one of his broadcasts talks he literally says if you want to make it in night city, “become a solo. It worked for me in the past.”
I mean, pretty obvious to me but idk I know there is people who disagree with everything
Good catch!!
I'm over 100+ hours and 3 playthroughs in. How do I not know who Max Mike is? 🤔
@@cookdislander4372Maximum Mike is a radio personality you can sometimes hear, he's played by Mike Pondsmith, and his content is mostly about different conspiracies.
@@JudgeNicodemus I'll have to pay attention next playthrough. When Phantom liberty drops this Tuesday New Zealand time I'll listen out for this guy. I know Mike's voice from researching cyberpunk, he's that black dude yeah? The creator? Surprised I missed this. Must be too busy admiring my car and constantly going "woaaah" at the graphics 😆 not paying attention
It would make sense considering Morgan Blackhand is Mike's irl character.
It's wild how all this old shit could be what led to us meeting Johnny at all. If not for the favor Johnny might owe Morgan for saving his old bandmate. This shits wild how interconnected everything is 💕
Agreed, writing this good doesn't come around often anymore
"we shall finally find out which is better meat of metal!" Lol I can't wait for Blackhand return so much overdue!
The guy’d be like 70-80 years old man. He was old in 2022.
@thebigenchilada678 Hanako Arasaka is 80 in-game.
She seems pretty fine.
Something tells me the solo of solos in possession of a copy of the one technology that allows for you to essentially cheat death by body hopping has somehow figured that out.
@@thebigenchilada678So is Rogue, Kerry and other living legends, a breed of their own.
Cough cough
Somi "SAMUARI fell off by their second album...."
How the hell she knows this and hanakako arasaka is 80 no one's who they say they are...
I’ve fully burrowed through the cyberpunk rabbit hole. I love your and WiseFish’s channels. I love exploring the lore, world and people that make it up. As well as hear more than one opinion and see different perspectives or find something that was missed. You’re both fantastic content creators
Black hand is the true hero. I would love the next game to be based on around him. Like a prelude before AHQ attacks
imagine a morgan blackhand movie showing all the events till he's MIA but with the style of 90/80s anime AND its actually thought up and well made creatively with alot of details from past cyberpunk things
He absolutely deserves Legend status. They don't know he's alive and holy shit, if he does show up alive? The man that fought Smasher hand to hand with minimal chrome atop an Arasaka headquarters as it exploded beneath him in nuclear fire? AND SURVIVED?! LEGENNNNNNND.
Nice intro dude. Never thought Morgan ever did return to Militech - they tried to off him! Several times. Using several methods. Including the nuke.
Part of my opinion really does come down to actually liking CyberGen ':).
Personally, I hope he's off sipping Martinis somewhere nice. But he's probably on the run from everyone after him now. More than likely it'll lead him right back to NC in the end.
Hope Max Mike finishes Morgan's story soon. I'm really curious to know the fates of more 2020 characters - so far we only really have Rogue and Boa Boa. :/ Some of the Forlorn Hope from Red too.
It wouldn't surprise me if he is in CP:Orion.
I'd like to see at least 2 more lifepaths added as well. Solo & Badge.
Black hand seems really similar to the punisher, I kinda wonder if he’s inspired
Mike Podsmith also said he looks like George Clooney.
I wonder what Blackhand would think if he heard of V attacking Arasaka tower by himself and winning.
Probably think “MF sounds like a Silverhand fanatic” 😂
Morgan reading a scream-sheet: "Holy shit you mean it was that easy? Just walk in the front door!?"
Maximum Mike's cyberyoda joshing is so good.
Dataminers once found, that model of Mr Blue Eyes was marked as Morgan Blackhand in files, but he had no black hand actually. So probably, CDPR planned to introduce Blackhand, but then decided to step back and reused already existing model for another character. Still, there is possibility, that Blackhand was copied by liberated Alt and turned into engram, and we also know, that AI controlled NightCorp actually has technology to gently install or modify personality in living body (Peralez family second quest, Sandra Dorset side quest and Harry the Prophet's side quests), while worshipping two grand AIs (one is Alt and another is referenced as male, so could be a Mr Night or Blackhand in form of an AI).
Anyway, CDPR's intention to add the Blackhand into game is kind of a confirmation, that he survived the HQ accident.
Mike Pondsmith actually asked for Morgan Blackhand not to be present in the game.
This lore deserves to get a movie adaptation.
In my mind I always pictured Morgan Blackhand as black. I guess because I equate him with Pondsmith.
Wouldn’t be wrong cause Pondsmith created the character of himself
@@SCSAsJorts yeah but he himself has also said Morgan looks like George Clooney, so no, not black.
Okay, I've had these thoughts about Morgan Blackhand and Cyberpunk 2077 lore in general. So I'm just going to just share them.
I don't think there was ever anything official (or even any fan theory) about this but I've always felt that there is a rough concept of a good/human/no cyberware VS evil/inhuman/no ganic scale. It's not really in the game but there's quite a few sources (datashards) that subtlety show the player who their V can be. Your V can be a merc like Morgan Blackhand (good, non-lethal, passive, minimal cyberware,humanity) or like like Adam Smasher (evil, enjoys killing, cruel, full borg, inhuman)
To be continued....
I use stealth and non lethal takedown. . . Unless its Raffen Shiv or Scavs. I obliterate them no mercy cause they are evil
Oh and Placide! I kill him too haha
The people I take out as V are brutal sick monsters. I save non-lethal for Cyberpsychos and high profile targets. Everybody else better hope I use non-lethal quick hacks
I’ve been anticipating this, thanks choom!
I deeply appreciate you and your work
I'm of the opinion that the next game will be militech and backhand focused. I also think we'll see crystal palace
Damn sounds like an interesting character, hopefully we see him in Orion
This was a nostalgic treat. I own, but have yet to play 2077. However, I used to run and absorb all the lore for the Cyberpunk RPG in the 90s (Shadowrun as well). I hadn't thought about Morgan Blackhand in the longest time and I'd avoided learning too much about the game. It's strange that I haven't thought about him because in the early product, he was all over the place. Moreso than Silverhand even I'd say. Easily. It was great to hear this recounting and have it all come flooding back now that I'm about to engage with the game.
Also, it makes me feel super old, because this was when I was a teen and working at a hobby shop that let me order whatever roleplaying games I wanted. Bet that kind of thing doesn't exist anymore either. Think I'm going to go turn to dust now. Very old dust.
(Why have I waited so long to play 2077? I was waiting for the studio to finish it.)
Despite the technical issues cyberpunk was an amazing experience even at launch. Did I hate the crashes, glitches and overall poor state.. hell yeah. But the lore, the overall story and potential was there from day 1. You will not be disappointed.
@@shamakiooglesby6418 Hey, thanks boss!
@@jasonsaddisonu play yet
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I think we're going to see him instead of smasher in the sequel. Assuming the secret ending is the Canon one, smasher is dead but blackhand's whereabouts are unknown
He'd be close to 90 years old but sure. I guess people do live longer in the Cyberpunk universe. Saburo Arasaka was creeping up on 160 when he died.
Fantastic video!! I've come to really enjoy all your narrations! Feeds my Cyberpunk lore cravings
Morgan blackhand is Columbo.
Can't unsee it
Great content again, my theory is Morgan Blackhand should be the main playable in the sequel, or that'd be a badazz idea, or feature him similarly to how Silverhand was used in the first game.
That would be fun but he’s Pondsmith’s personal solo character, I doubt he’d be open to it
I just hope we get to see more of Morgan Blackhand in a possible sequel to 2077 or a spin-off. So far, after learning what I have about him, he’s quickly become my favorite character in the Cyberpunk universe. He’s almost like a futuristic version of the Punisher.
I want a Morgan Blackhand TV show so bad. Animated or not animated, either way would be cool.
It would be a dream come true for Pondsmith if they got Clooney for a live action! I hope they do more animated shows though. Sort of like an anthology
I have a hope that the confirmed live action TV show they’re doing will follow Blackhand after the AHQ bombing and whatever story goes on from there. We’d also learn about how things went down with AHQ from his perspective in flashbacks where you would see cameos of known people. The B story in the show would follow Rogue and her journey to becoming queen of the Afterlife. I keep picturing Henry Cavill as Blackhand…
channel fire like the world building for cyberpunk keep it up bro
Nice one!
I'm really sure we will meet Morgan Blackhand in the sequel. Really sure...
Hes such a neat character. I hope they do an anthology animated show about all the interesting people
I just finished PL today, what a game. Cyberpunk is my fave genre now lol
as a cyberpunk GM, thank you for your service.
Morgan Blackhand vs Adam Smasher is literally built different vs “built” different
Your use of the new soundtrack fit the story.
I know I don't have have as many followers as you but I had to give yah a shout on my channel for being a main choom choom especially near my birthday much love choom here's to many years to come of lore and speculation!!
Hope yah see this!! Love yah brother thank you that's all I can say!
Choom what day is your birthday? Much love to you my friend. You've always been extremely kind and supportive I love the conversations we have!
@@LayedBackGamers the 18th choom! And thanks bro lol just love the content you make brother man that and the convos definitely definitely enjoy the convos!!
@@LayedBackGamers did you see the nod to ken block in 2.0 mission "I'm in love with my car!"
Loving this stuff. Keep it up!!
Fantastic, thanks choom ❤
The whole skills>chrome is all well and good, but any punk with a sandy can just pop Blackhand in the head before he can blink.
Love these videos
Have you done any research on Doctor Paradox, or Maximus Mikes Radio Brodcasts. Both are pretty cool to listen to but wasn’t sure if there was more to these characters from the books and table top
Yooo Morgan blackhand? Ah nice!!
Blackhand is a badass hope we can meet him in the sequel
Would be preem to get a show/movie with him
Great. Thank you.
No...Thank YOU my brother
We need a Blackhand build
Legendary
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Is the enforcers handbook a real book I can read or find some place I want to read it so bad 😂
Reed briefly mentioned him and i was immediately intrigued. "You're no blackhand".
No but i am V. You better ask about me😂
I wish I got that dialogue. There should've been more dialogue about Silverhand and Blackhand from the NUSA
@@LayedBackGamers it was the epilogue convo. If you kill so mi. When you approach him, something like "the nusa send you to kill me? Tie off loose ends?" Kind of a joke. And he goes "you think if i wanted you dead youd know i was coming? Youre good but youre no blackhand"
And i immediately searched cuz that made him sound like a stone cold killer.
Dude when the game released Mr BLUE eyes, character model were named Morgan Blackhand
He has a book on the ship of smasher stash and it talks about David and Johnny 😮 black hand still alive
Did you see the new cinematic trailer?? Do you believe that’s Blackhand or have we gotten a name for idris character? I know mike made Blackhand based off his self
We have, Elbas character is named Solomon Reed he used to be a NUSA agent. So it is a new character but nonetheless he seems well written and interesting. Perhaps he has met Blackhand in the past or has some info on him though!
@@LayedBackGamers Blackhand must be out there somewhere under a suedo name
@@lucianoromero777he might show up in Cyberpunk 2
Cdpr have announced a mysterious media project in the cyber punk universe it would be awesome if that was based on blackhand.
Pretty sure I found his rotting corpse in a cooler at a dump in the outskirts of night city.
Thats Bartmoss Not Morgan.
@@Aaroniswompwomp oh yeah you're right I got them confused
@@Ace.D.Portogas all good! :)
Bartmoss is an amazing character, I seriously want more explanation on why his body ended up there perfectly for V to find
@@LayedBackGamers fr and also why no one mentions it. Even in the dlc, u can tell Songbird it, and she says no, nothing like, isn't that big news?
The new ending that unlocks at the end the game after playing phantom liberty is interesting. Spoilers for those that don't want to know.
V is able to survive by having the relic surgically removed but at the cost of not being able to use combat cyberware anymore and wakes up 2 years later in 2079 the removal of the relic fried all of their nerves so they can now use only basic implants. Solomon Reed offers V a job at the FIB. V is now a government asset. If Cyberpunk Orion continues Vs story i think it would be cool if V is then trianed by Morgan Blackhand. That would be very interesting i think but we'll have to wait and see.
Morgan Blackhand is just Snake from MGS. Edit = CYBERPUNK 2077 PLAYED US WITH THE SILVERHAND MISSION, THE SCALE OF THE OPERATION.
Thing is V is chromed up, whereas Morgan Blackhand doesn't have the most fancy chromes, he just goes for simple ones that help him.
Это если не считать того что Ви под управлением игрока сам выбирает какой хром ему ставить, так что все зависит от игрока, да и у Ви визуально внешность не особо меняется, так что думаю он не намерен становиться боргом
I think it's possible for two opposing positions can be correct simultaneously.
Machines are stronger than flesh.
Metal is Stronger then Flesh.
The biggest lengend until V
I'd like to imagine blackhand as a dale gribble type
Pocket sand! Shi shaw!
...Is this dude the cyberpunk incarnation of Guts Berserkman?
I know i'm late I figure "Adam Smasher" is a soul copy, not unless that was a remote controlled body at the top of Arisaka tower.
I figure the same and made a video about it, the main part making me think so is his apparent sudden appearance in the DaiOni armor. Which wasn't stated at all during his appearance in the lab. But maybe that was just a detail initially excluded and he was in the armor. There's also always the chance he swapped armor in between since he had modules for fast swaps and also still had Shaitans Biopod from the lab
I just can't help myself to think that he is extremely similiar to Guts from berserk , but in cyberpunk settings .
I hope this isn’t a spoiler but we pretty much know who he is due to data mining. However, since it’s data mining it could be a scrapped idea so it may not be canon. But Morgan black hand is Mr. Blue Eyes. They use the same character model except in the flashback model he doesn’t have the glowing blue eyes. My theory is he’s being controlled by a rogue AI being used as a proxy to move about and establish power in the human world. But again this is based on data mining so they may have changed their minds about this route. Especially with Peralez mission it’s theorized AI are trying to brainwash humans. We can see Morgan Blackhand/Mr. Blue Eyes watching us.
Wasn't the datamining "evidence" simply that the hair of Mr. Blue Eyes is labeled blackhand or something.
I don't really see this as any hard prove that Blue Eyes is Morgan Blackhand.
I didn’t know anything about a Morgan black hand till now and I don’t have phantom liberty my v doesn’t even have basic upgrades to their cyberware and even that I haven’t gotten her any cyberware after vik installed the kiroshi implants
I really hope he is in Phantom Liberty. Probably not but lets hope
I can imagine some sort of hint or mention, but no, I highly doubt that he'll actually be in the expansion. Hopefully, he'll be in the upcoming sequel.
I actually find it insane he wasn't mentioned in the DLC. A lot of things weren't mentioned that should've been unfortunately
Unfortunately he's not 🙁
11 days....
Even sooner for 2.0...
I would love a corpo cyberpunk game you can sign on with militech Arasaka and kang tao
Am I crazy or was Morgan never mentioned before the phantom update? I heard Jackie say his name in the afterlife and I had never heard it before.
He's referenced a couple of times
The former
There's shard with his book on it. Few mentions suring dialogs in Afterlife, Jackie mentioned him few times. And after the gig in Arasaka hotel - almost nothing.
Sounds like big boss to me
Need a black hand build now
I hope the next game allows you to go without any cyberware. Also the opposite, i wanna be able to get a full conversion so I'm a walking tank.
Got a quick glimpse of your name and swore it said "layered black beans"
Be a lot cooler if it was...
It would have been cool is Idris Elba was Morgan instead of Morgan. Reed was awsome but it would have been cool. Next play though I'm going blackhand
I think Morgan & I have the same back story 😅
Was the AHQ bombing retconned fro cyberpunk 2077 or was Morgan Blackhand there during the strike and just not shown in game?
Silverhands engram was either edited or he was egotistical and thought he was the mastermind.
I’m also edging in cyberpsychosis
Morgan Black Hand and Mr Blue Eyes are Rumored to be the same person but if it this holds water or not I'm not sure but I would think these characters are so important they would have met sooner or later I imagine
It's a real shame that they would just let go these iconic characters meanwhile doing some (imho) cheap-ass freaks except Johnny himself and a small list of others. It's just unfair
I think morgan blackhand will be in the CP2077 sequel and be voiced by sylvester stallone. What do you think?
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Although I do think Blackhand is dope as hell, I don't quite understand how he can win against Smasher, or anyone with a Sandevistan
Wonder if Keanu would've been a better Blackhand rather than Silverhand.
Niceeeee choom!!!