The MASSIVE Mon Calamari Cruisers made after Endor
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Today we take a look at the amazing new Mon Calamari Capital Ships used by the New Republic after the Battle of Endor. All that and more in today's Star Wars video!
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"Let's dismantle our military"
Mon Mothma heard incredulous laughter from the entire senate. Followed by cans and rotten fruit.
Haha I love it!
Heh
*entire senate
Palpatine agrees!
lol.
@@spiffygonzales5160 The war continued for many years after Endor in Legends. And yes the fleet kept expanding.
Fractalsponge needs to do a Mon Cal heavy carrier, battle carrier, and battle cruiser to complement his Imperial designs
Well I have noticed that he does a lot more imperial designs because the ships are consistent unlike the mon calamari where every ship is different
@@hunterjarman4728 oh absolutely. I just think it would be cool to be able to see that level of design on both styles. Plus when you look at his stuff, you get a far better idea of their true power as apposed to the watered down versions that got published.
It's like the designer deliberately made it to make them look like the opposite of giant jaded triangular ships.
Friends:Why do you always instantly click on that Eck guy’s videos
Me:This is the way
Haha very funny
of the bionicle
Sees the new video is about Mon Cal ships, "Oh boy, let's be careful here Eck. We know you love these ships but we have to be careful not to get this video age restricted."
Admiral Ackbar(probably):"Winter, we must go where the tide takes us and go with the flow"
eyyy this comment got 69 likes. idk how long this will last but ... good times.
I don't get it
@@thehz8613 me too
I’m a simple man. I see submersible cities in space, I click.
Disney might steal those fan-made Mon Calamari ship.
I saw a Sith TIE fighter Lego model in the store the other day. Screwed up.
I love the mediator, it’s like a battle cruiser and a venator mixed together with the beautiful shapes of the mon-calamari ships.
I’m very upset “Read both options” didn’t win.
same here
Will this showcase the Viscount-class? Also very interesting video.
Empire: LOL no matter how good their shields are these guys can't make proper warships
New Republic: Ok let's make some actual serious warships instead of hyperspace-capable apartments
Empire: I'm sorry WHAT!?!
Yeah honestly the empire was so stupid to piss off the Mon Calamari. Without them the Rebellion could have never challenged the empire directly in a battle.
@@andrewortelli7631 Yeah, like literally every occupation or invasion attempt of the world by the Empire failed in the end. They got close with the World Devastators, but that wasn't really an invasion to secure or conquer anything.
@@fadelsukoco3092 I mean they basically genocided the Mon Calamari, killing millions of them by unleashing a biological weapon on their homeworld, iirc.
@@decimation9780 It did damage, to be sure, but the Mon Cals are still around and doing their thing well into the Legacy era.
@@fadelsukoco3092 Yes, but it likely weakened them for years to come. I mean their entire planet was rendered inhospitable for a time as well, that is if my memory is not failing me.
The original title was “Big ass ship” rather than “Massive ship”
Yup
Lmao
LOOOOL
mASSive ship
It was about to get age restricted lol
I love how i just woke up from a nap saw the poll voted for this option and the video comes out 2 minutes later lol now thats what i call instant gratification content u3u
Legends the true canon continuity post Return of the Jedi not the Disney canon post Rangers of the New Republic
Dang right
Fucking A
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I really hope Rangers ends up slapping like Mando.
ft
I know they're not exactly confirmed canon but the MC-104 and the Mediator class Mon Cal ships gotta be one of my favorites of the Mon Cal line, the New Republic was so good at making ships that were just so cool in every aspect such as the Viscount, the MC-140 Scythe, the Nebula Star Destroyer, the Starhawk, and SO MUCH more
I really like the Mediator and the Mc90 cruisers, their designs are simplistic, yet very nice, even though I normally prefer imperial ships
The Viscount wasn't as long, but it was thicc.
MC80B - dakka
MC90 - More dakka
Mediator - super dakka
Viscount - ultimate dakka
Can't wait to try some of these out in Thrawn's Revenge. Best I have is the 80B, and it is a pretty good workhorse for my early fleet.
I still maintain that the Legacy era Scythe ships make sense. These ships concentrate all firepower to the forward arc, meaning that the ship can use all of their potential (apart from anti-fighter weapons which need to be able to cover all of the ship) at the same time, rather than having most of the cannons silent because only few have a firing arc at the enemy. Especially in a fight with only a few ships, this design lets you quickly bring all your firepower onto the enemy capital ships and take them out one by one. The obvious weakness is that if you get out maneuvered with an enemy flanking your capital ship, you have to turn around to fire at them, but with sufficiently agile ships this becomes less of an issue.
Whenever Eck posts, it’s always a good one
Did the Mon Calamari have pre-congitive knowledge of what was going to happen in the 40 years post endor? Because there's no real reason for ships of that size, especially since a MC 80b and MC 90 can defeat a star destroyer.
Because the NR was often confronted with remaining Imperial dreadnoughts fighting for the remnant and various warlords. So Admiral Ackbar wanted to create an appropriate counter to these. I am referring especially to the Imperial Orinda-campaign here, where NR had to face 3 Imperial dreadnoughts, with their single one.
Here on Earth the United States is building big warships and fighter jets when our deadliest threat were some guys with boxcutters on an airplane 🤷
The video at the start: Only mentions Canon and sequel ships
Eck: Now let me introduce you to the ships from Star Wars Legends (The Chad Star Wars)
QUESTION: Why was Republic Star Destroyer unpopular? I like the design, at least the one from Thrawn´s revenge and it seems like a capable ship.
Great video. I would have loved it if the title had info that it was Legends lore. Because that made me way more interested.
You got that Right Eck. The Mediators The MC Heavy Carriers even the Vicount. I LOVE IT!
Would love to see this video with the new class warships
Mon Calamari Star Cruisers are among my favorite capital ships so I'm always glad to see another video about them! The MC90 is my favorite Mon Cal since it was the first one that was a purpose-built dedicated warship, the first one that reasonably accommodated non-Mon Calamari species, the first New Republic warship that really filled the big guns ship of the line role, the first New Republic warship that was able to successfully defeat an Imperial Star Destroyer one-on-one, and we actually have information about them unlike with the later Mon Cal ships. I do really wish we had more information about the _Mediator_ -class and the "Mon Calamari Heavy Carrier" (we don't even have a class name for that one?).
Also it doesn't surprise me at all that there's such a lack of information about these Mon Cal ships because authors tend to just slot in Imperial or even Victory (!) Star Destroyers when they need a big capital ship in their stories. One of the most egregious examples: Admiral Bwua'tu's flagship during the Dark Nest Crisis, named after Admiral Ackbar of all people, was a Victory Star Destroyer rather than a Mon Calamari ship like a Mediator Battle Cruiser. Yes, for a ship that was tasked for chasing pirate ships, they chose a 54-year old design dating from the Clone Wars that was notorious for slow sublight speeds rather than a newer, faster, and more powerful Mon Calamari ship.
I like that design in the video for the Mediator Battle Cruiser. Too bad it's not official.
I think you'll love the MC-104 then
@@AntVaz7 I never heard of this model. Do you mean the MC140 from the Legacy comics?
2:39 The light blue ship looks like a giant Gungan sub. "There's ways a bigger fish"
The post-Endor era Mon Calamari ships vs the Eternal Fleet, imagine that.
God is so good! I'm need to write an essay on a book that I've read, but I don't remember the content of, and the essay is due in two days. Watching this video as I am dreading starting the essay. Thanks Eck!
2:00 Legends or not .... YES , that engine grouping DOES make your butt look big . :)
Fleet battle between
Grand admiral Thrawn vs. Ender Wiggin
Each one has an equal sized fleet with equally capable subordinates, and since Ender is from a different universe each has equal understanding of the technology they’re using. They are in command of Star Wars vessels. Pick a famous fleet of your choosing I’d suggest death squadron.
Or put Ender against Rian Johnson and they both have to use Star Wars ships. Since Ender is from a different universe they both have an equal understanding of the the technology and lore of Star Wars.
@@Bierstadt54 you just want Rican Johnson to lose don’t you?
Couple questions; how much prep time do each if them have? Does Thrawn have acsses to Enders history and/or vice versa
@@kristiandahl1310 No prior knowledge of each other. I imagine both guys have identical fleets and I just dropped off somewhere in space and forced to fight
Corey and his team knocked it out of the ball park with their design of The Mediator in 3.0.
One of the coolest ones I've seen were the Mediator class star destroyers and the Mon Calamari heavy carrier, AKA the Blue Diver. I heard the armor on the Mediator was so strong, that it could survive a nuclear explosion from within its hangers
I love the mediator design, but I think that my favourite is still the MC80b. It was recognizably Mon Cal but it looked really different.
I don't really buy the Viscount being drastically scaled down from production models. It's much more like a totally different class if it is.
Yeah I think the whole "small prototype, huge regular ships" was just a covering-their-ass move to make up for a discrepancy between _Vector Prime_ and the sourcebooks.
Last time I was this early, the Mon Calamari only had Cruise Liners and Explorers
Straight up Venator vibes
Lol A Brief History of Time is already like a 15-minute book
Dang i love the New Republic! It sucks not to see these types in Star Wars canon, Legends just has variety for Mon Cal's to use and i love it!
My heart broke when you said you couldn’t show the official images 💔
Vs matchup Sgt. Johnson(Halo) vs Captain Rex(Star Wars)
Johnson gets Br 55, 1 m6 sidearm and marine BDU
Rex gets DC 15 rifle his pistols and phase 2 clone armor
really like corey team design of these ships like the heavy carrier
The Mon Calamari Seafood Platter
I know lore videos don't do as well this time of year, but I am glad to see a lore upload today. I find ship battles keep me star struck wile lore videos remind me why I love the Star Wars Universe. Fuck them algorithms, your hardcore fans are gonna watch all your content anyway Eck lmao
Nice!
LORD DIO thinks they could have gone bigger
If they make some more Star wars movies I hope they stop with just making ships bigger and bigger and bigger. A 12 mile ship is pretty cool and the death Star was a wild idea but what's going to be next? It's like every movie the ships double in size and it's just getting out of hand
test it yesterday, can easily outgun an allegiance
I'm generally not a fan of gigantic super-ships like the Viscount or the Executor. Such ships not only become a huge target, but they also consume resources that could have instead gone into smaller, more versatile ships. Maybe an Executor is worth ten ISDs on the battlefield, but I would argue ten ISDs are more useful because you can assign them to different tasks as needed.
I like the Mediator design. It is kind of reminiscent of the old Venators with their pinched waistline, but given the organic sexiness of a Mon Cal. Assuming of course that I have the ship classes figured out. I tried to confirm it but a google search showed me a crap load of different ships. A Starhawk is clearly not a Mon Cal... /facepalm
The only thing I would change is I like a more catamaran style of ship where instead of a single core section, you have side-by-side pairing of core sections.
Mediator class is the chadius maximus of the Mon cal ships
Eck I'm interested to hear what you have to say about the Viscount compared to the MC-108 "Endor" Class as described in the Templin Institute's reimagining of the New Republic, both being Mon Cal built SSDs. While an argument could be made the Viscount is more powerful, given the Republic was far more militarized at that time, the Endor Class was not just designed to be future proofed in taking on more powerful ships than the aging Imperial Fleet that faced the Viscount, and to fulfill more roles than just a ship killer. Interested to hear which you think is more powerful, but also which one is a better fit for the New Republic in their given settings
The mon cala fish bois supermacy.
What about Mon Cala escort and support ships?
The big weakness of the Empire is they didn't have enough support ships for the ISD's, such as the Lancer frigate, various Corvettes and gunships.
The *Big* Mon Cala ships [Viscount] are one on one masterpieces, but it's logistics that win wars _and keep the peace._ Admittedly the Mon Cala ships could be their own escort fleet as they didn't have the tactical weaknesses of ISD's.
The Alliance needed to keep order (it's what helped the First Order gain support, that the Alliance allowed the outer rim to fall apart into lawlessness), they needed a _mass produced patrol ship_ to stop pirates and act as police and coast guard.
And have the big ISD killers on standby, ready to jump to wherever a leftover ISD was causing problems.
The New Republic had access to a smaller ship called the MC40a, which I think was around 600 meters so it was in the class of a Dreadnaught Heavy Cruiser. But as far as I know it was a retrofitted civilian ship like the MC80.
In the Legacy era there was an escort frigate type ship; I think it was called _Shashore_ or something like that? It had a triple scythe design to complement the single scythe in the _Scythe_ -class.
Otherwise, I'm not sure if Mon Calamari made too many smaller ships. That seemed to be more in the domain of CEC and New Class (like _Sacheen_ and _Warrior_ -classes).
I really wish we got to see the MC90 and the Mediators in the Sequel Trilogy.
I literally watched the old video yesterday.
I think the Mediator is easily my favorite Mon Cala ship design, even if it isn’t technically canon. The Heavy Carrier is a close second.
Hey Eck can you do a video on how the Mon Calamari classify their starships like mc75/mc80/mc90 etc ik the ships but I dont understand what makes them that classification
Oh shit a new video
Mon mothma: let’s demilitarise
Mon cal: silence boomer
The mc 80b looks like a frying pan or a scoop
Mon Cals!!!
I love you Eck
I sense a disturbance in the force. It says six comments, but none appear before me.
do the imp relentless from star wars fannon the destroyer with a bridge under the ship and ontop and hanger in the center
Nice
Will we be having any more additional ships added to Thrawn’s Revenge or any other super weapons/unique units (like World Devastators or the Galaxy Gun?)
Hey Eck, is there any lore/fluff on how materials for these massive ships are transported?
I thought the Mediator was 1,500 meters long which was half the length of the prototype Viscount
0-0 was that a crimson command Star Destroyer???¿
That means there could be something like the Krikana later on right?!
According to Wookieepedia the _Krakana_ was a Viscount Star Defender.
I hope Mel miniatures makes the eaw tr 3.0 version of the Mediator and the blue diver
World devestator vs Viscount star defender!
It's almost unbelievable how well EaW olded. (I know EaW on screen is very modded) It still looks better than most of the new RTS
This is rebellion don’t catch you tripping now
I find it kinda relaxing how SW counters very big ships with very big ships. Not like real military, where they use tactics.
Ahh ya
I don't mind the rehasing I just want to hear you talk about star wars
Vs matchup Yss-1000 saber( Halo Reach) vs T-65 X-wing(Star Wars). 2 rounds round 1 average pilot in each round 2 noble 6 in the saber vs Wedge Antilles in the X-wing
Perhaps vessels like these will make it into Champion of the Empire.
#AskEck Which Sci-Fi Faction has the best tactics | UNSC(Halo), Galactic Republic(Star Wars), Systems Alliance(Mass Effect), Terran Dominion(Starcraft)
Galactic versus.
Starcraft hyperion vs battlestar galactica, anything.
Neither faction has shields on there ships. Both have few large weapons and both are fairly large vessels that be interesting to watch. And see who wins
I have an idea the new republic and the empire vs the covenant and the unsc
Mediators should be like, 1-2KM long
@@papapalps2415 Because its supposed to be big
@@papapalps2415 Suuuuureeeee, cuz this ship should be the size of the Fucking Executor Class-Star destroyer
@@papapalps2415 i think he is referring to the common types
What platform do you play Empire at War on?
Ok! Wish for more Earth🌎🌍 in Star Wars videos soon!
There is no Earth in Star Wars
What mod are u using for empire at war?
The Mon Cala had great ships, but if there's one thing I wish the New Republic brought is an upgraded Venator class destroyer.
Agree. However I do have a sub mod Call the New Republic Venator.
@@bradhedgehog12 Really? Is there a picture?
@@paulsteinhauser434 Sadly no. If you got Steam and Star Wars Empire at war Gold I’ll tell you where to find it.
@@bradhedgehog12 I got the disc version.
@@paulsteinhauser434 Mmmm. I see. I never used it when using mods. Just the steam version. Maybe I can try showing it to you on my profile picture.
Imperial 3 class star destroyer vs The starhawk
Probably the isd 3
Han solo commandong a giant mom calamari cruiser hah they really put the fantasy in star wars
rebel be like :S T O N K
What are your thoughts on the Harrower-class dreadnoughts of the True Sith Empire?
Master chief vs space marine who would win?
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Project Star Dust the Underrated Roblox game,i think not,its not a story a regular star wars fan or a gamer would tell you,it has almost every ship from Star Wars,Halo and Space Battleship Yamato and you're their captain,it also has ships that weren't built like Legacy Star destroyer,Rothana and chancellor battlecruisers and other ships. You should check it out Eck.
Carriers killed the Battleships….Battleships will always in my mind be the queens of the sea 🌊
Just occurd to me, all of the rebel ships interior is white and the empire has grey and black
Take a look at the MC80a(Alliance Variant, long range weapons for siege purposes) and the MC80f(Freedom Variant, Heavy Armor and Ion Cannons for close range broadsides, a brawler essentially) from Empire at War.
More proof Legends > Disney
Sorry Eck, but when I play a mod for Empire At War like Revenge of Thrawn, on most of the unit and planet it says: "[MISSING]". I don't know how, can someone explain it to me and maybe tell me how to fix it ? Thanks
From what game is this footage?