At Anchorage, there was no sweeter sound to my unit than the sound of the Stingray whenever we got one for CAS. I can still hear that sound to this day.
This is actually kinda funny to me, since I’ve literally stolen the explosion FX from the vertibird and repurposed it for use my mods for other explosives.
Couple of corrections: 4:54 - that Vertibird is not an official design. It's a cargo Vertibird drawn by a Gray-Skull. 7:40 - Just because those Stingrays are next to the Sea of Tranquility section doesn't mean they actually belong to that section. Elsewhere in the same mural we have biplanes next to the four-turreted USS Missouri and a Minuteman in front of the WW1 era tank.
So, they got the hull number wrong, but it should be USS Montana, which would have been BB-67 if the class wasn't canceled. Or it could have been her sister ship, USS Ohio BB-68.
@@hokutoulrik7345 Right turret layout for a Montana class, at least. I filed that whole thing under "Lol, Artists can't tell their butts from a buttstock, even in the fallout universe..."
you guys must eat plain cornflakes for breakfast and only drink water. And you are no fun at parties. Ypu were probably also teacher's favorite student.
Man if you want a series that focuses on kooky planes based off of real designs you should look up stuff for Crimson Skies and Skycrawlers. Crimson Skies is a dieselpunk world set in the 1930s after America got balkanized and is almost entirely focused on being air pirates with zeppelins. Meanwhile the Skycrawlers is a novel/anime series where conventional war has ended and been replaced with PMCs getting hired to settle disputes with aerial dogfights. Crimson Skies is more American designs while Sky Crawlers is there for the Japanese side of things.
Crimson Skies is a wonderful game, my now thirtysomething sons had endless fun playing it in the old days. Beautiful airships bristling with machinegun positions and being attacked by fighters.
Skycrawlers lives in my head rent-free. My dad got it from Redbox when my brother and I were prolly waaaay too young to watch it, but to this day I remember loving that movie!
The MC’s Plane in Crimson Skies was such a great design. All the elements of a biplane rearranged like an X-wing, with the vertical stabilizers doubling as fixed rear landing gear. Truly a great plane.
The idea of those passenger planes being able to fly for ages makes for a funny idea, a flight of people who managed to survive the bombing, rarely if ever landing and those who stayed aboard turning them into self sufficient environments. Would make for a super cool set piece in a fallout game set within the first 100 years after the war.
They have nets hanging from the landing gear to catch and eat radioactive birds, and get their water through recycled urine, radioactive cloud water, and blood. They eat people who put the plane at an imbalance aka undesirables, the elderly, the disabled, and those that were unfortunate enough to be born during an excess of people. Snow-piercer 2.0.
Like the snowpiercer but as a plane. (The snow piercer is a fictional train which travels around the world after climate manipulation failed and turned the earth into a ice desert. The train has micro biomes, a fish tank, a cow farm and farms, basically a city in a gigantic train)
YES DUDE, bring one the fictional stuff! And as an Ace Combat fan, I am putting my vote up for the world of Strangereal! You could have an episode dedicated to Gründer Industries alone!
Not sure if Ace Combat would be as popular, especially at the moment, but AC8 is due...eventually, so whenever that is, a video on the series surely has to be worth doing! AC is worth a few videos too, since you've got the prototypes and variants of real planes (some of which have been on the channel of course), the weapons for regular planes (like the lasers), the fictional prototype planes (X-02, CFA-44, ADF-01, etc) and of course the big beasts like the Arkbird, Arsenal Bird, P-1112, and more. Plus drones of course. Loads of interesting stuff in there!
@@ApothecaryTerry I respectfully disagree. People perk up and pay attention in these niche spaces when ace combat is brought up. If this were a more generic channel with a bunch of normies, I'd agree with you. But with the audience that F&I had cultivated, I think the video should do well regardless of ac8 being out or not. Plus, that's gonna be a while. We don't even have an announcement trailer or anything, just a green light and knowledge it is in production.
FYI, the Fallout Vertibirds are tilt wing craft, meaning their engines and wings tilt up. While the US currently uses tilt engine/rotator designs in the Osprey and soon to be deployed Valor. Meaning only the engines/rotators tilt up and down the wings stay fixed.
The Tula flying boat in GTAV has tilt wing, a rather silly looking aircraft with four enormous engines (it would look better with two like a Catalina). The Osprey clone the Avenger is tilt engine.
i like how he handwaves northrop flying wings after mentioning the america bomber, that wasnt a flying wing, and the ho 229. you can almost sense the approval and disdain in his voice. "as well as northrops attempts......" like seriously dude
The Horten brothers did have designs on the drawing board for extremely large flying wing bombers that woukd have (allegedly) had the range to make it to America. It wasn't just Messerachmitt, Focke-Wulf, and B&V that had a hat in that ring.
Yeah, and with absolutely no mention of the F117, B2 or B21 projects, which are, or were, operational. He completely removes Jack Northrop's entire additions to aerospace. Sure, flying wings weren't his idea, but nor were they first thought of by the Nazis. It would have been much better if he just stated flying wing, or actually operational projects.
I've been a huge fan of exploring Fallout's prewar stuff in-game. And as an aviation enthusiast, I remember spending hours just examining the P80-like jet at the carrier in F3, and looking at the Vertibird's propeller in F4. I always loved this about Fallout, that the imagination from the game is clearly inspired on crazy, cold war designs, particularly from the soviets. Fallout planes make me think if the Ekranoplan and all those retro futuristic ideas.
The vertibird is formidable, true. Except in Fallout 4 wher the Brotherhood will use a vertibird to attack someone and in a minute or less it is shot out of the sky. They hardly ever survive. Also, they always go towards the player while crashing. The cargo plane does not have a high wing. The wing root is at the bottom of the fuselage, which makes it a low wing, but it does appear to have some dihedral which would give it stability. A high wing would be rooted at the top of the fuselage.
I wouldn't treat the games too seriously on the statistics of survival of the Equipment. In Fallout 4 Raiders with their bolted together makeshift weapons can destroy your Power Armor rather quickly. In the TV show Power Armor instead is treated as near-impenetrable, unless you know the weakspots. Or probably have bigger, military grade guns and not some small arms.
Grumman made the F9F Panther, which was basically a P-80 with just a couple changes to the shape of the airframe and folding wings. I know they were not made by the same manufacturer, but they were very, very similar.
Most of the real life designs for these vehicles were abandoned for a reason and a few were just impractical. All fallout vehicles would be fusion and not fission due to the enormous weight of shielding required for fission. See project Pluto for details. The brotherhoods air ship lacks sufficient hydrogen bags to lift it, even if its "armor" is merely Kevlar and carbon fiber. The Vertibirds and the large passenger plane are the most realistic given a fusion bottle instead of Aviation gas for fuel.
They’re likely fission because fusion and by proxy cold fusion was only really unlocked right before the war, including power armor as well. Instead, i reckon they found a solution around the shielding problem because they had such reactors in cars, if they had them in airliners as well, they likely found some way around it, fallout radiation does work differently from real lifes anyways
Fusion has the same radiation concerns as fission, lol, even worse in most instances because it's neutron radiation, which is notoriously difficult to shield against.
@@Yomotomen The problem with that is the Power armor was in use for a long enough time to go through several different models all powered by a fusion core. And you really really need to read about project Pluto, which was a real life project to design a nuclear powered aircraft.
@@Allegheny500 yes because while fusion cores found quick military implementation, the time for civilian implementation was delayed and too late, dude, it’s a game, you’re looking too far into it
the P-80 was considered for the navy and had some special versions made to test but when they were tested they already had a jet, also the bomber was a B-29
Loved coming across the Horizon airliners in the Commonwealth. They also remind me a bit of the Junkers G.38 because of the passenger lounges in the wings.
I'm pretty sure pre-war engineers in fallout figured out light weight radiation shielding seeing that they have fusion powered cars and fusion reators small enough to be held in ones hand in the form of fusion core😊
With Fusion Cores being a thing, I think it is safe to assume that they mastered Nuclear Fusion in the Fallout Universe. They also built their cars to be powered by nuclear engines and I remember, I think, that in Fallout 4, when you just get to the very first gas... or well coolant station, you can read the diary of the last days before the bombs dropped, where the owner describes how he acquired a gas-run motorcycle and describes it as some heavily outdated and thus exotic design, really hard to get spare parts for it. And seeing that many cars in the game somewhat survived the nuclear blasts and lasted like 200 years... before a player comes and blows them up with a mini-nuclear explosion in Fallout 4 (dunno how realistic that is) and computer terminals being working after 200 years, I think their fusion technology is pretty stable, unless left unattended for 200 years, lacking maintenance and/or suffering catastrophical failure. Thus said, that fusion powered mega passenger airliner seems pretty secure and they probably weren't irradiated after a trip ;) PS: Regarding the airship, it is in the show not mentioned, if it is the Prydwen or another one. In universe the Brotherhood has some experience building and operating several of them at the same time, they just lost multiple ones decades earlier. Imho it should be treated as a light weight carrier, since most residents in the wasteland probably don't have weapons to strike at it.
I really enjoy videos like this as I always liking to know what kind of things they have in video game, movies, shows, and etc. For how the world they bring for people to enjoy that they also happened to create types of things to either drive or see in the fictional worlds, specially it always have me wonder what else is there because we see little of them.
Further to the passenger jet designs: the Fireflash airline from Thunderbirds also featured seating in the wings with big windows, and a nuclear reactor. They even mention in one episode that they can loiter in the air practically forever, but that the reactor shielding needs to be maintained every few hours or else the occupants are exposed to lethal radiation levels
As someone who loves crazy inventions and how things might work, definitely. YES! Expand your channel with the imaginary universe. This unlocks so much potential from a lot of catchy franchises....*cough* Star Wars... Have a special edition. Release it once a month or twice. I guarantee they will catch a larger audience.
For the F-80 not being used as a carrier aircraft: the Navy did conider using them and actually tested them on USS Roosevelt (they were refitted with a tailhook and stronger landing gear). They also equiped 2 squadrones with them: VF-52 and VFM-311. For the Navy not aquireing them: it's pretty easy. Lockheed back then just wasn't a major fighter-supplier for the Navy. Branches were pretty segregated in terms of companies they bought from. The Navy often ordered from Vought, McDonell or Grumman. Another fact is that the F-80 wasn't a purpose-built carrier-plane, since Lockheed ath this point in time had absolutely 0 experience building navy-planes. Since the P-59 the Navy had their own fighterjets in development and once the F-80 arrived they already had more suitable aircraft ready, namely the McDonell FH-1 Phantom (no, not the F-4, but a predessesorand her namesake). The Phantom and refitted F-80s were close in performance BUT the Phantom had 2 engines, better slow-speed handeling and a superior landing-gear from the get-go, since she was always meant to be a carrier-fighter
always fun in Fo4 to turn the boston airport into a minutman / brotherhood of steel military air base with damaged aircraft made to look like they are being repaired / salvaged plus 2 intact stingrays on the runway ready to go. also works great with vertibird mods and the stingray air strike mod.
As someone who would get really excited and spent a LOT of time exploring every inch of a discovered aircraft wreckage this video is greatly appreciated.
This was an great video! I think the transport aircraft mentioned at the Las Vegas Airport might be dual purpose, it has too many windows to be a pure cargo aircraft.
I've always loved the look of the P-80 as well, here's little insight into why the P-80 wasnt considered for carrier use for a few reasons: 1: the airframe and landing gear couldn't take the beating of carrier operations. 2: they were far too underpowered for carrier takeoffs (early jet tech was pretty underpowered as a whole) 3: the Navy didnt really want to jump to a jet project that was designed for USAF use. Navy and Air Force aircraft generally have very different roles, capabilities, and parameters of acceptable performance. The Navy was fairly happy with theor F-8Fs and Skyraiders at the time.
I actually got really excited when I first found that massive airliner in FO4, as I am also an Ekranoplan geek and was hoping it was some kind of odd Wing-In-Ground vehicle.
Okay, about the Vertibird and helicopters, we know helicopters exist in the Fallout universe. Because they existed during WWII. The Sikorsky R-4 was preforming rescue and transport operations during WWII. It was just limited. And we know that it's post-WWII (commonly thought to be 1947 when the transistor was invented in our universe, and wasn't invented until much later in the Fallout universe). It's just that this is what the military was using and trying to develop. Which fits, because even the DoD today is trying to push through tilt-rotor aircraft as well.
Love your channel and your topics. Could you possibly talk about the aircraft from either the Halo or Gears of War universes? Love to see what you come up with.😊
I ran the numbers on that Brotherhood of Steel airship. In order to lift a 40,000 ton airship, each gasbag would have to have a radius of 120 meters (meaning it's 240 meters across).
Stratolaunch and White Knight Two are also one-off prototypes. Based purely on aesthetics, the Chinese bomber looks more like a Savoia-Marchetti S.55 than anything else I can think of.
This video is amazing. It’s similar to that of another channel called Skydingo, and his Fallout Vehicles series, but more professionally explained Fallout 4’s Ship Ideas (Page 279, The Art Of Fallout 4) are Another vehicle I’d personally suggest if this series is continued. I’d personally like to hear your take on both the Battleship&Cruise Ship
I love this!! More fictional aircraft pondering please!!! I'm inspired to build the arcjet in Juno new origins thanks to you it might actually look awesome and function properly. Please, more..more!..
You should check out the Lockheed p-38 lightning. Above: You should check out the Lockheed p-38 lightning. As to the aircraft, it seems that some of these frames are too small to be practical. Like in Fallout New Vagas 6:29
1:58 I bet everyone's heard this little tidbit before but (at least according to US regulations) you get more of a dose of radiation from in a few hours of flight at cruising altitude than you ever would in a year of working at a nuclear power plant. And while fission isn't exactly popular in the Fallout universe (by the 23rd of October 2077), the beryllium agitator room can kill within a few seconds, and yet without it Boston still has power. This probably means within the fallout universe, scientists have made fission reactors so much more efficient that somehow they let off so little radiation that it is only detectable in city powering reactors. This probably means that the civilian liner maybe only double that dose you'd get from cruising altitude. That's if the reactors are able to give off even that much radiation (and aren't shielded in any way).
Hey, an entertaining video! Though just one nitpick. The Jetliner (in fallout verse) would have been safe despite the nuclear power because in that universe, Nuclear energy was pretty much mastered to a point where it could be used in domestic households. Granted, it took maintenance and skilled technicians to maintain that safety..
Dude this freaking rules! Make a series about games or even just fictional stuff. Ace combat would be a great one, hell maybe even Star Wars if u wanted. I watch all your stuff. Do more of this and I’ll be watching even more 😂❤
The vehicles are powered by fusion engines. So yes, the airplane is fusion. I also imagined that the fusion reactor/reactors would be in the center section, and the heat from the fusion reaction would be cycled through a heat exchanger air to provide the energy to rotate the compressor and turbines and create thrust.
Why the P-80 was never carrier-based: the jet engine was already pushing technical limits, the long nose would have made carrier landings difficult ( the prop-driven F4U Corsair had this issue ), and catapult technology for carriers hadn't been developed yet. I always thought of the Panther fighters as being the closest to a navalized version of the P-80 concept. Also, that "B-52" from the museum is actually a B-29.
Fallout's carrier based Lockheed P-80 isnt too much of a stretch. The Navy did consider the P-80 and Lockheed developed the carrier capable TV-2 & T2V-1 trainer versions of the P-80, which were used by the Navy for a short time. In an _alternate_ _universe_ setting, its not hard to imagine Lockheed winning a major Navy contract and the P-80 being the primary carrier fighter.
I do question whether the Sea of Tranquility a) actually happened and b) happened the way it did. Given that it's at the end of the mural I do think it could show a hypothetical battle at some point in the future, which would explain the presence of the Stingray Deluxe and the out-of-place Saturn V. This would also explain why one of the FO4 Tesla magazines shows a far bulkier exosuit than that of the mural (a magazine we know to be relatively up-to-date given we later see Cooper Howard reading it in EP.7).
I just love the designs not only the aircraft but all sorts of machines in Fallout series, and that some of the everyday stuff is nuclear powered like it is the normal thing to do in this series.
Hi @FoundAndExplained the Vertibird was inspired by the Canadair CL-84 rather than the Osprey. It was a great aircraft that was way before its time, tragically it somehow lost out to other military budget priorities. The CL-84 does deserve an honourable mention though w.r.t. the Vertibird though. The P-80 was adapted to a navy trainer known as the T2V Seastar, although it didn't have folding wings.
Also another correction, the plane with seats in the wing was designed from a real plane! The Junkers J38 or g 38 I believe! Check it out it's super cool
Infact, not even as close to a "healthy" green glow you'd get if it were fission-reactors. Since Fusin creates way less radiation since most of the energy is needed for the fusion of 2 atoms/isotopes.
Idea: A very rich individual who for whatever reason didnt trust bunkers. They instead loaded a Jetliner (radiation shielding on the engines of course) with around 150 people as well as the equipment necessary to detect nukes as well as survive for many generations. They would simply fly to parts of the world that wernt actively being nuked and managed to keep going until X time. Then disaster strikes! They get shot down and there are only a few survivors! The most important survivor being the co-pilot(possibly next in line to be "leader"), who is the player and now they must survive on land. Their main options being: Take over a vault, Live on the surface, Find fix and outfit a new Jetliner (or smaller plane) to survive on.
I never knew this about fallout. I would love more videos about fictional aircraft. Ace Combat especially since they art team takes a lot of inspiration from the real aircraft their planes end up fighting.
If we’re considering fictional airframes, May I suggest; Anime "Yukikaze" Anime "Sky Crawlers" Movie "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow" Movie “Stealth" to name a few.
6:20 easy answer, acceleration and overall low speed performance. those early jets needed loooooooooooong runways to get up to speed, the ME-262 was infamous for how easily they could be engaged on takeoff and landing. it took a while for Jet aircraft to get to become viable for carrier operations because Catapults had gone out of style by the late 40s, and the margins for landing were just too close even with an arrestor hook
I never understood how many of there tech can be so small or compacted, like the robots or the pit boy when there using vacuum tubes instead of microprocessors
It's cause Fallout had a huge technological bottleneck due to going gun ho with developing fusion and miniturized nuclear energy. Technically Fallout is actually less advanced than our timeline cause of this bottleneck. Even though the army has lasers and plasma weapons and such the vast majority of people still lived a 1950's styled life. A lot of the advanced stuff only appeared in the years leading up to the great war.
Saying the passengers in the airliner wouldn’t be safe from the fission/fusion (1:43) Bro, haven’t you heard of the NS Savannah? A real life nuclear powered cruise ship? With the reactor just 14 feet away from the cabins?
It is nuclear fusion, not fission,🙂 as unrealistic as it is the sorce of power they use in the fallout is fusion. I say unrealistic because fusion is what causes nuclear bombs to be so devastating.
I'm pretty sure the Vertibird would be a tiltwing since the entire wing moves with the engines when they go into position for either vertical or horizontal flight
As a Fallout Nerd *and* Aviation Nerd I am the happiest person in the world right now...
As a fallout nerd and nothing else I am moderately happy right now
Real my guy
Same here .
@@The_House_Always_Winsas a fellow fallout nerd, literally feeling the exact same way
Same
At Anchorage, there was no sweeter sound to my unit than the sound of the Stingray whenever we got one for CAS. I can still hear that sound to this day.
Walter? The heck you doing outside your universe?
@@weldonwinsomething happened when I traveled through the unity.
@@Walter_Stroud Well, if you ever end up in the Star Trek universe, look up that Quark fellow on Deep Space Nine, I'm sure you two will get on great
@@Walter_Stroud Happens to the best of us, good luck travelling through it again.
Myslím že tu hlášku som čítal niektorom s tých počítačov ktoré doplňujú príbeh
ahh yes, the vertibird the greatest explosive known to man
Recycled skryrim dragon ai go brr
@@MemeReviewer I mean it does, but 4's don't really go nuclear like 3's do
* parked cars
This is actually kinda funny to me, since I’ve literally stolen the explosion FX from the vertibird and repurposed it for use my mods for other explosives.
If it fly's it dies , I don't make the rules , I just enforce them.
Trying out a slightly different type of video on the channel! Thought I would go over the different aircraft in fallout. let me know your thoughts
I like it hoping you do more. I would love you to do Crimson Skies
I love this type of stuff. There are so many video game vehicles you can do.
@@jdtroup198683 I second this!
Please do a video on the Fixed Wing Airships of Project Wingman. They are such an underrated class of fictional aircraft
Wouldnt be suprised if lockheed or boeing has a fleet of vertibirds with fully functional xo1 power armor in them just for looks
Couple of corrections:
4:54 - that Vertibird is not an official design. It's a cargo Vertibird drawn by a Gray-Skull.
7:40 - Just because those Stingrays are next to the Sea of Tranquility section doesn't mean they actually belong to that section. Elsewhere in the same mural we have biplanes next to the four-turreted USS Missouri and a Minuteman in front of the WW1 era tank.
UnOfficial redraw of concept art*
So, they got the hull number wrong, but it should be USS Montana, which would have been BB-67 if the class wasn't canceled. Or it could have been her sister ship, USS Ohio BB-68.
@9:55.. "do not interfere".. do u want hindenburg to fall on u!?!.. yes its that hard to fly!.. just "do not interfere"..
@@hokutoulrik7345 Right turret layout for a Montana class, at least. I filed that whole thing under "Lol, Artists can't tell their butts from a buttstock, even in the fallout universe..."
you guys must eat plain cornflakes for breakfast and only drink water. And you are no fun at parties. Ypu were probably also teacher's favorite student.
Man if you want a series that focuses on kooky planes based off of real designs you should look up stuff for Crimson Skies and Skycrawlers. Crimson Skies is a dieselpunk world set in the 1930s after America got balkanized and is almost entirely focused on being air pirates with zeppelins. Meanwhile the Skycrawlers is a novel/anime series where conventional war has ended and been replaced with PMCs getting hired to settle disputes with aerial dogfights. Crimson Skies is more American designs while Sky Crawlers is there for the Japanese side of things.
Crimson Skies is a wonderful game, my now thirtysomething sons had endless fun playing it in the old days. Beautiful airships bristling with machinegun positions and being attacked by fighters.
Agreed! Amazing game
Skycrawlers lives in my head rent-free. My dad got it from Redbox when my brother and I were prolly waaaay too young to watch it, but to this day I remember loving that movie!
The Sky Crawlers also had a game on the Wii. I think it was set sometime before the anime.
The MC’s Plane in Crimson Skies was such a great design. All the elements of a biplane rearranged like an X-wing, with the vertical stabilizers doubling as fixed rear landing gear. Truly a great plane.
The idea of those passenger planes being able to fly for ages makes for a funny idea, a flight of people who managed to survive the bombing, rarely if ever landing and those who stayed aboard turning them into self sufficient environments.
Would make for a super cool set piece in a fallout game set within the first 100 years after the war.
They have nets hanging from the landing gear to catch and eat radioactive birds, and get their water through recycled urine, radioactive cloud water, and blood. They eat people who put the plane at an imbalance aka undesirables, the elderly, the disabled, and those that were unfortunate enough to be born during an excess of people. Snow-piercer 2.0.
Society would function like a vault.
Like the snowpiercer but as a plane. (The snow piercer is a fictional train which travels around the world after climate manipulation failed and turned the earth into a ice desert. The train has micro biomes, a fish tank, a cow farm and farms, basically a city in a gigantic train)
Most if not all planes crashed after the emp blast that came after the nukes. Its even stated in fallout 4 itself
They would have all become ghouls eventually due to the radiation.
YES DUDE, bring one the fictional stuff! And as an Ace Combat fan, I am putting my vote up for the world of Strangereal! You could have an episode dedicated to Gründer Industries alone!
HELL YES
NOW IMAGINE TOUCHING ON STONEHENGE
Not sure if Ace Combat would be as popular, especially at the moment, but AC8 is due...eventually, so whenever that is, a video on the series surely has to be worth doing!
AC is worth a few videos too, since you've got the prototypes and variants of real planes (some of which have been on the channel of course), the weapons for regular planes (like the lasers), the fictional prototype planes (X-02, CFA-44, ADF-01, etc) and of course the big beasts like the Arkbird, Arsenal Bird, P-1112, and more. Plus drones of course. Loads of interesting stuff in there!
@@ApothecaryTerry I respectfully disagree. People perk up and pay attention in these niche spaces when ace combat is brought up. If this were a more generic channel with a bunch of normies, I'd agree with you. But with the audience that F&I had cultivated, I think the video should do well regardless of ac8 being out or not. Plus, that's gonna be a while. We don't even have an announcement trailer or anything, just a green light and knowledge it is in production.
_Belka did nothing wrong_
You got my vote!
The US Navy did fly a variant of the Lockheed P-80 from its decks: the T2V SeaStar trainer, later redesignated "T-1A." No folding wings, though.
it failed horribly, Pretty sure thr airframe wasn't strong enough to have a tailhook
FYI, the Fallout Vertibirds are tilt wing craft, meaning their engines and wings tilt up. While the US currently uses tilt engine/rotator designs in the Osprey and soon to be deployed Valor. Meaning only the engines/rotators tilt up and down the wings stay fixed.
The Tula flying boat in GTAV has tilt wing, a rather silly looking aircraft with four enormous engines (it would look better with two like a Catalina). The Osprey clone the Avenger is tilt engine.
the Valor has tilt rotor the engines do not move, the magic of learning you can do stuff with driveshafts instead of moving the whole engine
i like how he handwaves northrop flying wings after mentioning the america bomber, that wasnt a flying wing, and the ho 229. you can almost sense the approval and disdain in his voice. "as well as northrops attempts......" like seriously dude
The Horten brothers did have designs on the drawing board for extremely large flying wing bombers that woukd have (allegedly) had the range to make it to America. It wasn't just Messerachmitt, Focke-Wulf, and B&V that had a hat in that ring.
Whats even more odd, is that the flying wings that actually made it to serial production by Junkers and Kalinin are not mentioned at all.
he was probably referring to the Horten HoXVIII but yea not the amerikabomber
Yeah, and with absolutely no mention of the F117, B2 or B21 projects, which are, or were, operational. He completely removes Jack Northrop's entire additions to aerospace. Sure, flying wings weren't his idea, but nor were they first thought of by the Nazis. It would have been much better if he just stated flying wing, or actually operational projects.
@9:55.. "do not interfere".. do u want hindenburg to fall on u!?!.. yes its that hard to fly!.. just "do not interfere"..
Im so happy you show the different Virtibirds as some people think the ones in 4 are the ones from 3. but they are different models
@9:55.. "do not interfere".. do u want hindenburg to fall on u!?!.. yes its that hard to fly!.. just "do not interfere"..
I've been a huge fan of exploring Fallout's prewar stuff in-game. And as an aviation enthusiast, I remember spending hours just examining the P80-like jet at the carrier in F3, and looking at the Vertibird's propeller in F4. I always loved this about Fallout, that the imagination from the game is clearly inspired on crazy, cold war designs, particularly from the soviets. Fallout planes make me think if the Ekranoplan and all those retro futuristic ideas.
Nah the commercial airlines is 🔥🔥🔥
If by fire you mean poorly designed and doomed to crash on its own sure
@@dillonpeterson66 Quit yapping
@@gaspy2458 how about no
That airliner is absolutly ☢️☢️☢️
@dillonpeterson66 the only problem is sitting right next to the poorly shielded nuclear engines.
The vertibird is formidable, true. Except in Fallout 4 wher the Brotherhood will use a vertibird to attack someone and in a minute or less it is shot out of the sky. They hardly ever survive. Also, they always go towards the player while crashing.
The cargo plane does not have a high wing. The wing root is at the bottom of the fuselage, which makes it a low wing, but it does appear to have some dihedral which would give it stability. A high wing would be rooted at the top of the fuselage.
I wouldn't treat the games too seriously on the statistics of survival of the Equipment.
In Fallout 4 Raiders with their bolted together makeshift weapons can destroy your Power Armor rather quickly.
In the TV show Power Armor instead is treated as near-impenetrable, unless you know the weakspots. Or probably have bigger, military grade guns and not some small arms.
@@MagiconIce forget raiders. A bloody molerat can bite through the armour and injure you! LOL
Well, this is the first that he put a video on a fictional aircraft.
YOLO
no its not, he made a video on the su-57 and mig 1.44
Lol😂@@F4PhantomGaming
nope
Micro fission, proceedes to show the cold fussion
Grumman made the F9F Panther, which was basically a P-80 with just a couple changes to the shape of the airframe and folding wings. I know they were not made by the same manufacturer, but they were very, very similar.
Most of the real life designs for these vehicles were abandoned for a reason and a few were just impractical. All fallout vehicles would be fusion and not fission due to the enormous weight of shielding required for fission. See project Pluto for details. The brotherhoods air ship lacks sufficient hydrogen bags to lift it, even if its "armor" is merely Kevlar and carbon fiber. The Vertibirds and the large passenger plane are the most realistic given a fusion bottle instead of Aviation gas for fuel.
They’re likely fission because fusion and by proxy cold fusion was only really unlocked right before the war, including power armor as well. Instead, i reckon they found a solution around the shielding problem because they had such reactors in cars, if they had them in airliners as well, they likely found some way around it, fallout radiation does work differently from real lifes anyways
Fusion has the same radiation concerns as fission, lol, even worse in most instances because it's neutron radiation, which is notoriously difficult to shield against.
@@Yomotomen The problem with that is the Power armor was in use for a long enough time to go through several different models all powered by a fusion core. And you really really need to read about project Pluto, which was a real life project to design a nuclear powered aircraft.
@@Allegheny500 yes because while fusion cores found quick military implementation, the time for civilian implementation was delayed and too late, dude, it’s a game, you’re looking too far into it
@@yobeefjerky42 Most of the papers I've read regarding fusion experiments don't support this as the neutrons are being fused into heavier elements.
Awesome! I never thought YOU would be the one to cover all these aircraft, they're so wacky and I love them for it.
0:10 Fusion!
the P-80 was considered for the navy and had some special versions made to test but when they were tested they already had a jet, also the bomber was a B-29
Helicopters exist in the Fallout Universe, you can fly one in Fallout Tactics.
You never drive a Helicopter in F Tactics. indeed you dont even see one moving, only the husk
There is a plane in fallout tactics too. the hellion
I think the museum mural is a compilation of events, not suggesting T-51 and the full stack Saturn were on the moon.
Loved coming across the Horizon airliners in the Commonwealth. They also remind me a bit of the Junkers G.38 because of the passenger lounges in the wings.
These are some awesome looking aircraft
“Iiiiii don’t want to set the woooorrrrllldddd ooooonn fireeeeeee”
Gives me Hope for an Ace Combat video ❤😎
I'm pretty sure pre-war engineers in fallout figured out light weight radiation shielding seeing that they have fusion powered cars and fusion reators small enough to be held in ones hand in the form of fusion core😊
With Fusion Cores being a thing, I think it is safe to assume that they mastered Nuclear Fusion in the Fallout Universe. They also built their cars to be powered by nuclear engines and I remember, I think, that in Fallout 4, when you just get to the very first gas... or well coolant station, you can read the diary of the last days before the bombs dropped, where the owner describes how he acquired a gas-run motorcycle and describes it as some heavily outdated and thus exotic design, really hard to get spare parts for it.
And seeing that many cars in the game somewhat survived the nuclear blasts and lasted like 200 years... before a player comes and blows them up with a mini-nuclear explosion in Fallout 4 (dunno how realistic that is) and computer terminals being working after 200 years, I think their fusion technology is pretty stable, unless left unattended for 200 years, lacking maintenance and/or suffering catastrophical failure.
Thus said, that fusion powered mega passenger airliner seems pretty secure and they probably weren't irradiated after a trip ;)
PS: Regarding the airship, it is in the show not mentioned, if it is the Prydwen or another one. In universe the Brotherhood has some experience building and operating several of them at the same time, they just lost multiple ones decades earlier.
Imho it should be treated as a light weight carrier, since most residents in the wasteland probably don't have weapons to strike at it.
I really enjoy videos like this as I always liking to know what kind of things they have in video game, movies, shows, and etc. For how the world they bring for people to enjoy that they also happened to create types of things to either drive or see in the fictional worlds, specially it always have me wonder what else is there because we see little of them.
*Love how me and buddies are just replaying the fallouts series and you make this!*
Further to the passenger jet designs: the Fireflash airline from Thunderbirds also featured seating in the wings with big windows, and a nuclear reactor. They even mention in one episode that they can loiter in the air practically forever, but that the reactor shielding needs to be maintained every few hours or else the occupants are exposed to lethal radiation levels
As someone who loves crazy inventions and how things might work, definitely. YES!
Expand your channel with the imaginary universe. This unlocks so much potential from a lot of catchy franchises....*cough* Star Wars... Have a special edition. Release it once a month or twice. I guarantee they will catch a larger audience.
This video was so good now I want you to make more fallout stuff just because of how amazing it was
For the F-80 not being used as a carrier aircraft: the Navy did conider using them and actually tested them on USS Roosevelt (they were refitted with a tailhook and stronger landing gear). They also equiped 2 squadrones with them: VF-52 and VFM-311.
For the Navy not aquireing them: it's pretty easy. Lockheed back then just wasn't a major fighter-supplier for the Navy. Branches were pretty segregated in terms of companies they bought from. The Navy often ordered from Vought, McDonell or Grumman. Another fact is that the F-80 wasn't a purpose-built carrier-plane, since Lockheed ath this point in time had absolutely 0 experience building navy-planes. Since the P-59 the Navy had their own fighterjets in development and once the F-80 arrived they already had more suitable aircraft ready, namely the McDonell FH-1 Phantom (no, not the F-4, but a predessesorand her namesake). The Phantom and refitted F-80s were close in performance BUT the Phantom had 2 engines, better slow-speed handeling and a superior landing-gear from the get-go, since she was always meant to be a carrier-fighter
always fun in Fo4 to turn the boston airport into a minutman / brotherhood of steel military air base with damaged aircraft made to look like they are being repaired / salvaged plus 2 intact stingrays on the runway ready to go. also works great with vertibird mods and the stingray air strike mod.
As someone who would get really excited and spent a LOT of time exploring every inch of a discovered aircraft wreckage this video is greatly appreciated.
I absolutely LOVE the pre-war fallout vibe
retrofuturism is fucking cool
The TV2 SeaStar was a shipborne variant of the T-33, a two place variant of the F-80 Shooting Star. It did not have folding wings.
This was an great video! I think the transport aircraft mentioned at the Las Vegas Airport might be dual purpose, it has too many windows to be a pure cargo aircraft.
3:11 The Vertibird is actually a tiltwing aircraft. The wings tilt with the rotors.
Ive seen plenty of coverage of fallout aircraft, this was the best, you expertisé and knowledge of history brings a lot to this discussion
The fact airliners have Wing seating is bananas to me. I love the concept I geek out when I see it
Love this content, as a fan of Fallout (and of your coverage of experimental, ‘what if’ and UFO designs) ❤
Discovering your channel with this video, as a Fallout fan, really love it ! You've got a new follower
The first plane was definitely inspired by the Junkers G38, a 1920s almost-flying wing aircraft that had passengers sitting inside the wing aswell
Would love to see more of this, maybe covering other games or even shows and movies.
A perfect mix fan, Fallout fan and aviation fan, nothing gets better.
You forgot the Nutsack Supreme Bloasto, Mach 7+, 573 passengers, barrel rolls all day everyday
Please make more videos on fictional vehicles! this was a great watch
The Shape of the airship reminds me of the Zepplin Dropship and Flying Fortress in Iron Order 1919
That was super cool! Thanks! Hope you do more videos like this one.
I've always loved the look of the P-80 as well, here's little insight into why the P-80 wasnt considered for carrier use for a few reasons:
1: the airframe and landing gear couldn't take the beating of carrier operations.
2: they were far too underpowered for carrier takeoffs (early jet tech was pretty underpowered as a whole)
3: the Navy didnt really want to jump to a jet project that was designed for USAF use. Navy and Air Force aircraft generally have very different roles, capabilities, and parameters of acceptable performance. The Navy was fairly happy with theor F-8Fs and Skyraiders at the time.
I actually got really excited when I first found that massive airliner in FO4, as I am also an Ekranoplan geek and was hoping it was some kind of odd Wing-In-Ground vehicle.
Found and Explained never changes.
Appreciate this one, and am obligated to ask for a video about the civilian/military ground vehicles, they truly have some dope designs
9:35 that gun pod looks...... interesting
Okay, about the Vertibird and helicopters, we know helicopters exist in the Fallout universe. Because they existed during WWII. The Sikorsky R-4 was preforming rescue and transport operations during WWII. It was just limited. And we know that it's post-WWII (commonly thought to be 1947 when the transistor was invented in our universe, and wasn't invented until much later in the Fallout universe). It's just that this is what the military was using and trying to develop. Which fits, because even the DoD today is trying to push through tilt-rotor aircraft as well.
I love this video! Maybe you could do more video game series about aircraft and vehicles?
Love your channel and your topics. Could you possibly talk about the aircraft from either the Halo or Gears of War universes? Love to see what you come up with.😊
I ran the numbers on that Brotherhood of Steel airship. In order to lift a 40,000 ton airship, each gasbag would have to have a radius of 120 meters (meaning it's 240 meters across).
such an awesome video! Very fun and creative designs, and I love that parts of them were based on real world designs:D
Yes, I think you should about more video game aircraft and vehicles! This was really cool!
Plz more types of videos like this
9:40 You mentioned the rare two prototype fuselage aircraft, but not the common ones that are in use. P38, Stratolaunch, and White Knigt Two
Stratolaunch and White Knight Two are also one-off prototypes. Based purely on aesthetics, the Chinese bomber looks more like a Savoia-Marchetti S.55 than anything else I can think of.
@@darthquigley One offs yes, but not prototypes, they are horizontal launch platforms for low orbit rockets.
In fallout can you rupture the gas bags with a flare?
Or The Gainer pistol?
This video is amazing. It’s similar to that of another channel called Skydingo, and his Fallout Vehicles series, but more professionally explained
Fallout 4’s Ship Ideas (Page 279, The Art Of Fallout 4) are Another vehicle I’d personally suggest if this series is continued. I’d personally like to hear your take on both the Battleship&Cruise Ship
Also both the Yangtze and USS Democracy would be an interesting additions
Loved this , an would love to see a in-depth video on any of them (your choice of course) .
I know this is a video about fallout planes but why is no one talkin about the plane at 9:29 that’s PACKING a rather unique payload 😏😏😏
I love this!! More fictional aircraft pondering please!!! I'm inspired to build the arcjet in Juno new origins thanks to you it might actually look awesome and function properly. Please, more..more!..
You should check out the Lockheed p-38 lightning. Above: You should check out the Lockheed p-38 lightning. As to the aircraft, it seems that some of these frames are too small to be practical. Like in Fallout New Vagas 6:29
1:58 I bet everyone's heard this little tidbit before but (at least according to US regulations) you get more of a dose of radiation from in a few hours of flight at cruising altitude than you ever would in a year of working at a nuclear power plant.
And while fission isn't exactly popular in the Fallout universe (by the 23rd of October 2077), the beryllium agitator room can kill within a few seconds, and yet without it Boston still has power. This probably means within the fallout universe, scientists have made fission reactors so much more efficient that somehow they let off so little radiation that it is only detectable in city powering reactors.
This probably means that the civilian liner maybe only double that dose you'd get from cruising altitude. That's if the reactors are able to give off even that much radiation (and aren't shielded in any way).
This was awesome! Always enjoy your videos but fallout is one of my favorite video game series, thanks for this! 🔥
Fun fact, the P-80 was in fact considered for carrier use, but was deemed impractical as jet technology was not yet viable for carrier use.
Hey, an entertaining video! Though just one nitpick. The Jetliner (in fallout verse) would have been safe despite the nuclear power because in that universe, Nuclear energy was pretty much mastered to a point where it could be used in domestic households. Granted, it took maintenance and skilled technicians to maintain that safety..
Welcome to the fallout universe wonder.
Dude this freaking rules! Make a series about games or even just fictional stuff. Ace combat would be a great one, hell maybe even Star Wars if u wanted.
I watch all your stuff. Do more of this and I’ll be watching even more 😂❤
The vehicles are powered by fusion engines. So yes, the airplane is fusion.
I also imagined that the fusion reactor/reactors would be in the center section, and the heat from the fusion reaction would be cycled through a heat exchanger air to provide the energy to rotate the compressor and turbines and create thrust.
I really liked this videos, you should do more fictional aviation videos
Why the P-80 was never carrier-based: the jet engine was already pushing technical limits, the long nose would have made carrier landings difficult ( the prop-driven F4U Corsair had this issue ), and catapult technology for carriers hadn't been developed yet. I always thought of the Panther fighters as being the closest to a navalized version of the P-80 concept.
Also, that "B-52" from the museum is actually a B-29.
Fallout's carrier based Lockheed P-80 isnt too much of a stretch. The Navy did consider the P-80 and Lockheed developed the carrier capable TV-2 & T2V-1 trainer versions of the P-80, which were used by the Navy for a short time.
In an _alternate_ _universe_ setting, its not hard to imagine Lockheed winning a major Navy contract and the P-80 being the primary carrier fighter.
I do question whether the Sea of Tranquility a) actually happened and b) happened the way it did.
Given that it's at the end of the mural I do think it could show a hypothetical battle at some point in the future, which would explain the presence of the Stingray Deluxe and the out-of-place Saturn V.
This would also explain why one of the FO4 Tesla magazines shows a far bulkier exosuit than that of the mural (a magazine we know to be relatively up-to-date given we later see Cooper Howard reading it in EP.7).
That modestly-sized fighter looks more like an enormous transport.
I just love the designs not only the aircraft but all sorts of machines in Fallout series, and that some of the everyday stuff is nuclear powered like it is the normal thing to do in this series.
Fallout is one of my favorite Post Apocalypse games
Hi @FoundAndExplained the Vertibird was inspired by the Canadair CL-84 rather than the Osprey. It was a great aircraft that was way before its time, tragically it somehow lost out to other military budget priorities. The CL-84 does deserve an honourable mention though w.r.t. the Vertibird though. The P-80 was adapted to a navy trainer known as the T2V Seastar, although it didn't have folding wings.
Also another correction, the plane with seats in the wing was designed from a real plane! The Junkers J38 or g 38 I believe! Check it out it's super cool
Infact, not even as close to a "healthy" green glow you'd get if it were fission-reactors. Since Fusin creates way less radiation since most of the energy is needed for the fusion of 2 atoms/isotopes.
Idea: A very rich individual who for whatever reason didnt trust bunkers. They instead loaded a Jetliner (radiation shielding on the engines of course) with around 150 people as well as the equipment necessary to detect nukes as well as survive for many generations. They would simply fly to parts of the world that wernt actively being nuked and managed to keep going until X time. Then disaster strikes! They get shot down and there are only a few survivors! The most important survivor being the co-pilot(possibly next in line to be "leader"), who is the player and now they must survive on land. Their main options being: Take over a vault, Live on the surface, Find fix and outfit a new Jetliner (or smaller plane) to survive on.
I never knew this about fallout. I would love more videos about fictional aircraft. Ace Combat especially since they art team takes a lot of inspiration from the real aircraft their planes end up fighting.
If we’re considering fictional airframes, May I suggest; Anime "Yukikaze" Anime "Sky Crawlers" Movie "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow" Movie “Stealth" to name a few.
6:20 easy answer, acceleration and overall low speed performance.
those early jets needed loooooooooooong runways to get up to speed, the ME-262 was infamous for how easily they could be engaged on takeoff and landing. it took a while for Jet aircraft to get to become viable for carrier operations because Catapults had gone out of style by the late 40s, and the margins for landing were just too close even with an arrestor hook
I never understood how many of there tech can be so small or compacted, like the robots or the pit boy when there using vacuum tubes instead of microprocessors
It's cause Fallout had a huge technological bottleneck due to going gun ho with developing fusion and miniturized nuclear energy. Technically Fallout is actually less advanced than our timeline cause of this bottleneck. Even though the army has lasers and plasma weapons and such the vast majority of people still lived a 1950's styled life. A lot of the advanced stuff only appeared in the years leading up to the great war.
Amazing, world love to see your take on the Fallout universe Robots
Saying the passengers in the airliner wouldn’t be safe from the fission/fusion (1:43)
Bro, haven’t you heard of the NS Savannah? A real life nuclear powered cruise ship? With the reactor just 14 feet away from the cabins?
It is nuclear fusion, not fission,🙂 as unrealistic as it is the sorce of power they use in the fallout is fusion. I say unrealistic because fusion is what causes nuclear bombs to be so devastating.
I love design details in the Fallout universe, is that attention to details what makes the game so great
I love idea of fictional aircraft video's
I'm pretty sure the Vertibird would be a tiltwing since the entire wing moves with the engines when they go into position for either vertical or horizontal flight