NOW THAT'S HOW YOU TEST A 4X4. 👏 I'm tired of manufacturers putting their vehicles on easy Level 1 tracks. What's the point? HUMMER gets the cojones award.
While I do agree it was good to see the truck actually struggling and not just going down a groomed course, that's a 5 rated trail per OnX, so pretty moderate. And of course they had pre-run the track to make sure everybody would get through just fine and had their people there on-site making sure everything was managed. All that said this might be the new standard in off-road capable EVs. Certainly can't say that from just this video but this might be the first time I've seen an EV off road and didn't hate it at first sight. And it sounds like the 2-motor version would actually be better since it gets real lockers - you could see several times on this video where the rear sim-u-locker wasn't able to cope.
I believe it’s a duratrac but unlike the cybertruck, it’s full tread. Tesla uses the same tire but hard Goodyear build them with half the tread depth for better range and handling supposedly.
@@kristoferfc6525 it was more a comment on them not popping while rock climbing under the immense weight of the hummer. Kind of like me congratulating my belt for a job well done. 😂
@@sarrum7696Nah, the tires are just doing what tires do. The *engineering* is the real hero of the day. Y’all are just really dramatic and rather focus on the Hummer’s weight instead of highlighting what it’s capable of _despite_ it’s weight. Y’all will come up with anything not to give GMC their credit for the first actual super truck from America.
@@TroySavary nothing to do with Cybertruck. I’m referring to how good the Ultium portfolio and her Cybertruck competitor is after Tesla fanboys mocked her for stating *gm* will be _”leading the charge”._ Bolt EV being the best EV value known to man instead of Tesla’s Model 3, Hummer EV being best Super-truck EV instead of Cybertruck, and Cadillac Lyriq being the best seller in it’s segment and Chevy Blazer EV showing signs of following suit, it looks like Mary was only telling the truth about _Ultium_ leading after all.
Like others, enjoy that they actually put this through an off road test. Almost every other manufacturer has some bullshit easy course that a stock Subaru can do.
It’s awesome to watch. It great that it’s so capable. But like the capable G-wagon and range rover not many if any people will ever take their $120,000 truck/suv off road, let alone Moab. It’s a pavement queen for sure. Just because of the cost.
Yes and no - I'm sure there will be some buyers with plenty of play money who will take it out to play even if only a few times. I'd expect more than the G or RR (which both go well beyond this price as well). Purely speculation of course, but it seems like the mentality of the buyer for this would be more inclined to do so compared to the others. Sorta viewing this more as a giant Jeep than a luxury SUV. Then again I may just be talking out of my ass - I don't expect to see any of the on the Rubicon any time soon.
people who buy a $120,000 off road truck would usually have the extra money to afford the punishments that car would take. If they can’t and they still bought one then they probably have poor spending habit issues and need to get checked. Lol
I wonder how hard it would be to make this truck but instead of being an EV, throw a 6.6 duramax or 6.2 gas V8 into it. It’s got awesome body lines and nice interior with tons of potential. Also, I don’t know what colors they plan on selling the Hummer in but the orange looks sick, as does the grey and their blue/grey.
All y’all gonna do is complain about the horsepower and torque not being as much as a Raptor R or TRX and if they offer some bespoke diesel engine y’all will just claim it’s overpriced and ain’t worth it anyway. Ain’t nobody playing this game with you all anymore. *gm* is committed to EVs this time around and looks like it’s turning out well for them.
As a recent new owner of the Hummer EV SUV (Edition One), I second what you said about not taking my $100k vehicle on a treacherous off road trail. I'll need to put a LOT of years and miles on my vehicle before I'll even think of trying that. Though, I know it's very capable. So far, the closest I came was climbing to parking lot that was a bit higher than the parking lot I was in, without having to drive all the way around (LOL!), just drove over the concrete embankment without a problem.
So true, so true. The only place I want weight is in a tow pig. Otherwise "simplify and add lightness". All the power in the world doesn't give the same result as moderate power and light weight. Between modern regulations and the constant demand for every possible luxury people have forgotten what proper driving dynamics are.
@@mcsike7264 The cybertruck is just a botch job, it's weak by design, has zero suspension flex at least GM put some thought into the hummer suspension.
@@OwenWellsp-wz5hg saw some ct offroading videos seems like a pretty decent offroader to me when put in the right hands BC you can take a ford raptor and give it to a noob and get stuck then you hear that the raptor is shit offroad
3:15 would be the perfect situation for crab walk instead of the rear swinging the opposite way the whole truck could crawl up to where the spotter wants him sideways
I remember when the H2 was a brand new model and EV's were still something that really bothered most people, now a Hummer is an electric GMC. This thing kicks ass though, honestly, I think it's quite an exceptional vehicle. I'm willing to bet though, that nobody whatsoever 20 years ago thought that THIS, would ever be a Hummer.
Replacing 20 battery modules with much less battery capacity, a diesel generator up front, and an actual fuel tank could cut so much weight and make it so much more usable. Mashing the two motor hummer version with like the potential Edison motors hybrid system is my dream, I think.
its interesting watching these extreme SUVs EVs off-road. The 3 things TFL mention do hinder the off-road EV. There weight seems to be a real problem, we saw them just sliding off course in almost every shot. The virtual lockers just can't work like a traditional locker as Tommy said probably due to the excessive weight. Also it looks like they would all benefit with a low range gearbox as the throttle response makes them all look really jerky and pretty amateur when they're clearly not. Even the rear steering doesn't seem to help with this heavy beast. It's a shame, all the great tech seems thwarted with it's lack of control, usability in the real world.
My 9000lbs H1 doesn't struggle like these things do. The rubber on these things isn't big enough. Stance isn't wide enough. Just overall pathetic vehicles compared to their primogenitors.
It’s crazy how y’all try to change the narrative all of the time for *gm.* These Hummers just conquered this trail even _with_ its weight and y’all are posting comments as if they had to be pulled out by their tow hooks. Absolutely hilarious. A clown show around here. 🤡
Will TFL be getting a Hummer EV SUV dual-motor when they come out to review and have as a long-term vehicle? I think it would be a pretty cool vehicle for you guys to test, especially considering it will have front and rear mechanical lockers.
looks fantastic. like a proper SUV. real capabilities built into the design . not like the the Cybercrap. GM seems to be hitting it out the park with there Electic vehicles. making good versions that are useful in ther segment. not gimics n hype like tesla being just a dodgy computing supplier, GM is focusing on making there offering work in the real world not in the kiddies playpen pretend offerings of these new companies worried about image n trivial things , example they have giving a massive battery n range of the silverado . rather than adding pointless totally unsafe stainless steel panels n innapproptiate tray and poor steering n woeful range of the cyberdookie great reviw guys . thanks
Great video. Although EVs may not be ready for the mainstream - lack of range, excessive weight, infrastructure, and cost being a few hurdles still yet to tackle - this is a good look of what's to come in the next ten to twenty years. Personally I'd like a smaller version more akin to the H3 of years past (similar in size to a 4Runner or Wrangler) and maybe a PIEV option rather than full electric. But in any case, it's an exciting glimpse into the future. EVs don't have to be boring.
I may have agreed with you in the past, but the Model Y was the best selling vehicle of any type in 2023. I don't think it's gets any more mainstream than that!
@@Nebula1701oh, for around town driving or even short road trips they're fine. I'm thinking more along the lines of off roading, like in this video. If you're out in the desert, you need to have the battery capacity to run the trail all day and then get back into town. Donut did a Cybertruck video where their range dropped like a rock off road. ICE cars can carry Jerry cans for the times they need extra range, but you can't do that with EVs. It'll be solved eventually.
@@backwoodstherapy Hummer has twice the battery capacity of the Cybertruck and off-roading is its home. Anyway... other EVs would be able to charge up the EV needing a boost. Many are now getting V2V charging capability. (Vehicle to Vehicle charging) There are also portable batteries you can get for quick charge ups... just enough to get ya back to the start of the trail where there should be some Charging stations.
Maybe you should wait 50 years? I have been driving teslas since 2016, range around 350 miles, supercharge about 5 times a year for a total of 2 hrs, 1 trip to tesla every 2 years fir minimal maintenance, how much time a year you spend going to gas stations? I have seen the lines at Costco gas
I gotta be honest here. For dedicated off-road trails I don’t have an issue with a 9000lb Hummer but going up trails to hiking spots I get frustrated with how excessively large trucks tear up trails that increase washout and create huge ruts that have to constantly be repaired
Environmental Protection Agency officials have meetings that i think you should attend, but I think the Hummer only digs on the trails that you drive it to. If you don’t want to create huge ruts, don’t. They’ve even went further and demonstrated in the video that it can handle near rock crawling, so you don’t have to necessarily destroy the terrain to have fun in this vehicle. Y’all have to make sh!t so hard. Always find something to complain about.
I’ve seen far more bro-dozers tearing apart trails by flooring it at every opportunity because spinning tires=testosterone than I have large trucks like Power Wagons and Hummers (which take the trail at a crawl to prevent damage)
Can you not control the rear steer independently or is it always active? All of the rear steer systems that I've used have a separate joystick for the rear axle steering.
I heard a rumor that the first year of the hummer EV cost more to charge then a commuter car costs to fill up with gass. Hopefully this new one does better in that area.
@@christianglaude6659it doesn’t have to do anything a Raptor or TRX does in order to be a Super Truck. When the Raptor R and TRX are hitting 60 mph in 3 seconds, can clear rocks this large, boast rear wheel steering, tow 10,000 lbs, and drive itself then _they’ll_ be able to say the Raptor and TRX are super trucks…until then they ain’t.
Seeing as you guys didn't like my comment on the cybertruck, how about this take? I like the design and the colour of this Hummer, only shame is there's no petrol or diesel option
I really wanna see this go up against the new Land Cruiser. I know they're not quite the same class of vehicle but I think they're close enough to compare.
If GM is listening, they should totally do a slant back model as a nod to the OG H1 and HMMWV. Yeah, you'd lose cargo space, but it'd look cool and be more efficient with better aero.
Remember when the pickup version was selling for crazy money during the pandemic? I do like the SUV a lot. Biggest concern is depreciation. What do you thru that will be?
It really shows its weight. This thing should not be allowed to off-road. It does too much trail damage. What ever happened to the tread lightly mentality? Go green what a joke.
I agree that the weight is a major issue with EVs off-road - although there’s a lot of tech on that beast beyond the batteries that are adding weight. I suspect that the other stuff - which appears to primarily relate to the programming - will get figured out over time. My Wrangler 4Xe doesn’t have the throttle issue you guys talk about. I don’t know if I’ve just gotten used to it or it’s because they figure it out for the ‘24s, but in low range I find that I electric-only is my preferred set-up off-road. My second Tesla is much better than my first and FSD is now actually usable on the road. That’s the thing about tech, it typically gets better over time. BEVs and hybrids will improve over time and these guys will eventually figure out the best set-up that actually works both on and off-road.
37 inch tires, Nitto Ridge grapplers would of been best. ❤ Good year tires stink off road and on road. It was night and day on my power wagon. Less bumpy on highway with less noise. Sticky on rocks and stable off road. Nitto tires felt soft like glue.
They have to figure a way to drastically lower the weight… the poor trail was getting pummeled by the Hummer EV. In an age where trail use is under increased scrutiny, that’s not gonna help us keep trails open.
Can somebody please explain how this vehicle could do the canning stock route( or many others in Australia) ,just under 2000k ,no power, no fuel no servos road houses from begining to end . You can carry fuel or even have a supply dumped at a cattle station along the way . a bit hard to carry electricity
Two 40 lbs (16 kg) propane bottles with a small 3 KW Propane fuel cell generator would easily solve that issue. The Propane fillup would be less than 160 AUD ... I can get a propane generator for as cheap as 700 cdn (800 AUD) so range is no longer an issue AND the propane will support a lot of shrimp on the barbie!
@@djtesseract3064 It wouuld be debatble if that was enough fuel to get you through but you would run out of food anf water before you got to the end , charging from a 240v generator gives you 2km of charge for 10 minutes . To do 3000km would take 31 days of charging plus travel time , that is under ideal conditions , now add didcharge when using low range in sand dunes
GM is quickly establishing itself as another leader in the EV world joining Tesla at the top. The Hummer EV SUV really gives you that Hummer vibe we all know and love from the 2000s. The SUV is the obvious successor to where the Hummer brand left off.
EXACTLY WHY I SAID Being able to control your rear steering angle seperate. Because that tail swing can get you in trouble. Quick slide on the screen to control angle? Could've swapped to a grab walk quickly on that first obstacle. Would be a tone if fun actually.
Jesus that thing is going way too fast up that ledge. Is there not a low range you can select so its not trying to jolt you into next week when going over obstacles?
There are clearly issues with weight, and power delivery. There are times when you're getting too much torque too quickly, and others where the computer 'driving aids' are getting in the way. All that said, it's still orders of magnitude better than the CT.
You pushed these much harder than the Toyota's. Has the Tacoma become less capable, durable? Looks a bit scary on the downhill, could run away with all the weight. Also off camber looks like the weight pulls it sideways more.
@@G-Rated Not just my opinion, even they have commented on issues with the extra weight in several situations, several times with ev's. I wouldn't say it "crawled" down a mountain, lol. More like it slipped more than a traditional 4x4 down a small ledge.
@@G-Rated Like I said, not just my opinion. Are you an EV salesman? Or do you just have a problem with people having an opinion based in facts. If your looking to promote your channel, with your 2 subscribers and no content by attacking people I suggest you take the high road or pick on someone who's defenseless. But keep it coming if like looking foolish. I'm interested in honest debate where others opinion are respected but you are coming straight at me and I neither deserve, not appreciate it.
@@dcmtrader this is not about opinions, the Hummer either conquered this trail with spotters or it didn’t and tow hooks were put to use. But I just love how y’all anti-EV folks come up with these alternative narratives of what actually took place and try to pass it on as your “opinion”. Absolutely hilarious.
I want to see you folks testing the new M-B G580 Electric ... Tests I have seen from Europe make it look like the world's best off road SUV... When are you getting one to test?
Probably less than 0% chance of that, however it really would be nice if they had offered an SUV on the Colorado/ canyon frame. That truck in SUV form would be a real 4Runner killer.
Happy for this wonderful video 🤓😎🤩 Oh🫣 and the battery 🫠 has a huge protector or strong cover for prevent damages?🤔 I hope because imagine a leak of this battery in the environment or for our own health. 😬 Thanks for share 🙏🏼🤝🏻
I own a ford lightning extended range. I will sell it when the battery and motor warranty is up in 8 yrs.(standard warranty for EV) Beyond that I rotate tires, wipers, washer fluid. These are not good for towing long distance or diving over 180 miles daily. Or if you can't plug in 220 voltage at home in your driveway. Cheers.😀
I like the performance, but the extreme weight destroys the trail when climbing 10x faster than a lighter vehicle. I'm both impressed but also cringing a little watching it rip the soil and rock apart when trying to go up. :(
My dad used to call his FJ40 the Land Crusher, but the meaning is literal in this case. The Hummer is not conquering the trails, it’s destroying them. Don’t care for it.
It’s a Hummer, they were built specifically for this. You won’t be needing the warranty for anything more than a software update that can be completed while it’s in the garage on the charger. These are bespoke Hummers from the ground up, not ICE converted F-150s or RAMs stuffed with batteries and an air suspension. The mechanical parts that make up this SUV are all heavy-duty. It’s GMC’s flagship model. Expect it to last and be reliable.
@@SALTYSPITOONMOTORS oh yea, i forgot what audience I was amongst. This _is_ TFL. Y’all hate all things *gm* over here including the GMC Hummer. Just here to hate. Lmdao 🤡
These trucks will not be around or collectible in 10 years unless there is an affordable way to convert it to a V8. The batteries are so expensive that most of these new ones will be in junk yards in 4 to 8 years if they don't melt from battery fires. GM has done a good job with their batteries compared to other manufactures when it comes to not catching fire as I haven't heard of a Hummer EV catching fire yet. However, there are not many on the road yet. TFL absolutely should mention the potential fire risks of owning an EV everytime they do an ev video. Not many people understand the fire risk and safety should come first, even if it makes the car company that invited you out for testing not so happy. However, they never say anything particularly bad about any new car they test anymore because they are afraid GM will give them the Subaru treatment. I miss the old days, when TFL was not afraid to make a not so nice review.
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It looks wayyyy better than the truck version
I agree.
Absolutely. This is a tough rugged looking suv.
Agreed.
Looks can be deceiving
Gotta give Hummer credit, I've never seen a manufacturer drive their vehicles on a course that nasty.
, Mercedes, Toyota.....
Alot of manufacturers actually does that lol!! Land rover excellence offroad centers
I remember seeing Bugatti driving their almost $2 million Veyron on snow and ice full send. :)
I would also say hummer but GM bought hummer so it’s brand is under GMC
Ford with the Bronco launch.
NOW THAT'S HOW YOU TEST A 4X4. 👏 I'm tired of manufacturers putting their vehicles on easy Level 1 tracks. What's the point? HUMMER gets the cojones award.
Yeah all the "off road" tests are barely more challenging than a county maintained forest road. This was a legit rock crawling course.
Agreed! This how it's done. Really impressed with how it performed.
While I do agree it was good to see the truck actually struggling and not just going down a groomed course, that's a 5 rated trail per OnX, so pretty moderate. And of course they had pre-run the track to make sure everybody would get through just fine and had their people there on-site making sure everything was managed. All that said this might be the new standard in off-road capable EVs. Certainly can't say that from just this video but this might be the first time I've seen an EV off road and didn't hate it at first sight. And it sounds like the 2-motor version would actually be better since it gets real lockers - you could see several times on this video where the rear sim-u-locker wasn't able to cope.
No one told me Steve from Blue's Clues started reviewing EVs.
😂
I knew I wasn’t the only one!
🤣😂 as soon as saw Tommy, thought he was gonna be looking for paw prints. 😂
Tommy needs TRT therapy lol
That was exactly what I was thinking lol
I like the SUV over the truck. Looks much better overall.
Agreed
Very attractive vehicle
The tire manufacturer is the real hero of the day.
I believe it’s a duratrac but unlike the cybertruck, it’s full tread. Tesla uses the same tire but hard Goodyear build them with half the tread depth for better range and handling supposedly.
eh not really , these were trash tires for my zr2 and this was such a lighter truck too
@@kristoferfc6525 it was more a comment on them not popping while rock climbing under the immense weight of the hummer.
Kind of like me congratulating my belt for a job well done. 😂
@@sarrum7696 lmfao no kidding xD
I would hope they're E load rated at the very least considering the weight
@@sarrum7696Nah, the tires are just doing what tires do. The *engineering* is the real hero of the day. Y’all are just really dramatic and rather focus on the Hummer’s weight instead of highlighting what it’s capable of _despite_ it’s weight. Y’all will come up with anything not to give GMC their credit for the first actual super truck from America.
I prefer that over the cyber truck
I agree 100%. Not even close in my book.
100%
Absolutely
Its all junk. Within 10 years all of these things are rotting on a massive ev graveyard.
I hate them both.
The timing of this is absolute daggers after a week of disappointing Cybertruck reviews.
They’ve finally pissed Mary off! 😎
@@G-RatedWhat does Mary have to do with poor Cybertruck performance?
@@TroySavarybecause this is an impressive vehicle
Sure, before we know it, GM will have filled all 2 million Hummer EV reservations.
@@TroySavary nothing to do with Cybertruck. I’m referring to how good the Ultium portfolio and her Cybertruck competitor is after Tesla fanboys mocked her for stating *gm* will be _”leading the charge”._
Bolt EV being the best EV value known to man instead of Tesla’s Model 3, Hummer EV being best Super-truck EV instead of Cybertruck, and Cadillac Lyriq being the best seller in it’s segment and Chevy Blazer EV showing signs of following suit, it looks like Mary was only telling the truth about _Ultium_ leading after all.
This IMO is the coolest EV on sale today.
So polished and raw all at the same time!!!
Thanks everyone for making this video. I appreciate you and everything else!❤
Like others, enjoy that they actually put this through an off road test. Almost every other manufacturer has some bullshit easy course that a stock Subaru can do.
It’s awesome to watch. It great that it’s so capable. But like the capable G-wagon and range rover not many if any people will ever take their $120,000 truck/suv off road, let alone Moab. It’s a pavement queen for sure. Just because of the cost.
Yes and no - I'm sure there will be some buyers with plenty of play money who will take it out to play even if only a few times. I'd expect more than the G or RR (which both go well beyond this price as well). Purely speculation of course, but it seems like the mentality of the buyer for this would be more inclined to do so compared to the others. Sorta viewing this more as a giant Jeep than a luxury SUV. Then again I may just be talking out of my ass - I don't expect to see any of the on the Rubicon any time soon.
people who buy a $120,000 off road truck would usually have the extra money to afford the punishments that car would take. If they can’t and they still bought one then they probably have poor spending habit issues and need to get checked. Lol
I had a 220,000mi chevy volt. GM builds reliable cars
Every GM my family has owned have surpassed 200k miles, or were 20 years old by the time we got rid of them
Can you test the Cybertruck post locker update on the same places? Perhaps with similar tires as well? :)
I wonder how hard it would be to make this truck but instead of being an EV, throw a 6.6 duramax or 6.2 gas V8 into it. It’s got awesome body lines and nice interior with tons of potential. Also, I don’t know what colors they plan on selling the Hummer in but the orange looks sick, as does the grey and their blue/grey.
D MAX hell yes
All y’all gonna do is complain about the horsepower and torque not being as much as a Raptor R or TRX and if they offer some bespoke diesel engine y’all will just claim it’s overpriced and ain’t worth it anyway. Ain’t nobody playing this game with you all anymore. *gm* is committed to EVs this time around and looks like it’s turning out well for them.
I'm not in the market for an EV but they did an amazing job. If was going to buy an EV this would be the one.
Gonna need a really special kind of tire to hold up all that weight for rock crawling, especially when you have to air down.
Normal E-load will do fine
As a recent new owner of the Hummer EV SUV (Edition One), I second what you said about not taking my $100k vehicle on a treacherous off road trail. I'll need to put a LOT of years and miles on my vehicle before I'll even think of trying that. Though, I know it's very capable. So far, the closest I came was climbing to parking lot that was a bit higher than the parking lot I was in, without having to drive all the way around (LOL!), just drove over the concrete embankment without a problem.
Weight is thy enemy
Heavy ass tank.
Unless you’re caught in a Tornado or high wind situation. 🌪️
Sound like my doctor
So true, so true. The only place I want weight is in a tow pig. Otherwise "simplify and add lightness". All the power in the world doesn't give the same result as moderate power and light weight. Between modern regulations and the constant demand for every possible luxury people have forgotten what proper driving dynamics are.
Do that in that Cyberbaby. It's not happening
Could do it now that it has lockers
@@mcsike7264absolutely not. The Cybertruck is sloppy off road
@@Spoolingturbski how? I mean it got its official off road update so both of us can't tell until someone test it as intended
@@mcsike7264 The cybertruck is just a botch job, it's weak by design, has zero suspension flex at least GM put some thought into the hummer suspension.
@@OwenWellsp-wz5hg saw some ct offroading videos seems like a pretty decent offroader to me when put in the right hands BC you can take a ford raptor and give it to a noob and get stuck then you hear that the raptor is shit offroad
Much better good looking than the Tesla and capable
I hate them both.
This thing is miles better than that Cyber Truck. Wish they would make a gas hybrid version..
Curious how much event staff aired the tires down, didn't look like much
3:15 would be the perfect situation for crab walk instead of the rear swinging the opposite way the whole truck could crawl up to where the spotter wants him sideways
I'll take the Hummer over the CyberFridge anytime of day.
Should have mine in about 3 weeks i can't wait to drive it off road
Just picked mine up a few weeks ago and so far I’m loving it!!❤
I love that the vehicle is “designed to do” all that we saw. But be honest, did you void any warranties on this test?
Rear stabilozer bar delete was a great idea.
Are we all just forgetting how the Hummer software issues left Roman stranded on the street?
Y'all can have your Tesla Cybertrucks but as for me(despite not being an EV fan) am having me a Hummer(SUV/Truck).man I ❤❤ this thing!😮
I remember when the H2 was a brand new model and EV's were still something that really bothered most people, now a Hummer is an electric GMC. This thing kicks ass though, honestly, I think it's quite an exceptional vehicle. I'm willing to bet though, that nobody whatsoever 20 years ago thought that THIS, would ever be a Hummer.
Colors are FIRE too
Lots of new pinstripes. Kudos GM
Replacing 20 battery modules with much less battery capacity, a diesel generator up front, and an actual fuel tank could cut so much weight and make it so much more usable. Mashing the two motor hummer version with like the potential Edison motors hybrid system is my dream, I think.
This makes Cybertruck look more like a cartoon than it already is.
its interesting watching these extreme SUVs EVs off-road. The 3 things TFL mention do hinder the off-road EV. There weight seems to be a real problem, we saw them just sliding off course in almost every shot. The virtual lockers just can't work like a traditional locker as Tommy said probably due to the excessive weight. Also it looks like they would all benefit with a low range gearbox as the throttle response makes them all look really jerky and pretty amateur when they're clearly not. Even the rear steering doesn't seem to help with this heavy beast. It's a shame, all the great tech seems thwarted with it's lack of control, usability in the real world.
You summed it up pretty well 👍 couldn’t agree more
My 9000lbs H1 doesn't struggle like these things do. The rubber on these things isn't big enough. Stance isn't wide enough. Just overall pathetic vehicles compared to their primogenitors.
@@nothingtoseaheardammit yea the rubber and no proper gearing for control really hurts it, and wow I didn’t realise H1’s were that heavy
@@nothingtoseaheardammit post a video
It’s crazy how y’all try to change the narrative all of the time for *gm.* These Hummers just conquered this trail even _with_ its weight and y’all are posting comments as if they had to be pulled out by their tow hooks. Absolutely hilarious. A clown show around here. 🤡
Will TFL be getting a Hummer EV SUV dual-motor when they come out to review and have as a long-term vehicle? I think it would be a pretty cool vehicle for you guys to test, especially considering it will have front and rear mechanical lockers.
looks fantastic. like a proper SUV. real capabilities built into the design .
not like the the Cybercrap.
GM seems to be hitting it out the park with there Electic vehicles. making good versions that are useful in ther segment.
not gimics n hype like tesla being just a dodgy computing supplier,
GM is focusing on making there offering work in the real world not in the kiddies playpen pretend offerings of these new companies worried about image n trivial things ,
example they have giving a massive battery n range of the silverado . rather than adding pointless totally unsafe stainless steel panels n innapproptiate tray and poor steering n woeful range of the cyberdookie
great reviw guys . thanks
Great video. Although EVs may not be ready for the mainstream - lack of range, excessive weight, infrastructure, and cost being a few hurdles still yet to tackle - this is a good look of what's to come in the next ten to twenty years. Personally I'd like a smaller version more akin to the H3 of years past (similar in size to a 4Runner or Wrangler) and maybe a PIEV option rather than full electric. But in any case, it's an exciting glimpse into the future. EVs don't have to be boring.
What range do you want? Infrastructure is improving quickly.
I may have agreed with you in the past, but the Model Y was the best selling vehicle of any type in 2023. I don't think it's gets any more mainstream than that!
@@Nebula1701oh, for around town driving or even short road trips they're fine. I'm thinking more along the lines of off roading, like in this video. If you're out in the desert, you need to have the battery capacity to run the trail all day and then get back into town. Donut did a Cybertruck video where their range dropped like a rock off road. ICE cars can carry Jerry cans for the times they need extra range, but you can't do that with EVs. It'll be solved eventually.
@@backwoodstherapy Hummer has twice the battery capacity of the Cybertruck and off-roading is its home. Anyway... other EVs would be able to charge up the EV needing a boost. Many are now getting V2V charging capability. (Vehicle to Vehicle charging) There are also portable batteries you can get for quick charge ups... just enough to get ya back to the start of the trail where there should be some Charging stations.
Maybe you should wait 50 years? I have been driving teslas since 2016, range around 350 miles, supercharge about 5 times a year for a total of 2 hrs, 1 trip to tesla every 2 years fir minimal maintenance, how much time a year you spend going to gas stations? I have seen the lines at Costco gas
Not a fan of Ev's (yet) but if had 100K+ I'd get this thing over the Cyber truck. I liked what Tommy said...it is over engineered.
So ur missing critical thinking skills?
I gotta be honest here. For dedicated off-road trails I don’t have an issue with a 9000lb Hummer but going up trails to hiking spots I get frustrated with how excessively large trucks tear up trails that increase washout and create huge ruts that have to constantly be repaired
Environmental Protection Agency officials have meetings that i think you should attend, but I think the Hummer only digs on the trails that you drive it to. If you don’t want to create huge ruts, don’t. They’ve even went further and demonstrated in the video that it can handle near rock crawling, so you don’t have to necessarily destroy the terrain to have fun in this vehicle.
Y’all have to make sh!t so hard. Always find something to complain about.
@@G-Rated damn someone shit in your face last night with that last sentence? I make an opinion and that’s your response? Wow
I’ve seen far more bro-dozers tearing apart trails by flooring it at every opportunity because spinning tires=testosterone than I have large trucks like Power Wagons and Hummers (which take the trail at a crawl to prevent damage)
4:00 perfect opportunity to try crab mode missed.
That would’ve worked perfectly there.
10,000lbs. That's how much these weigh. 10. Thousand. Pounds. Crazy. It's amazing they did as much as they did considering the crazy weight.
This looks great. Congrats GM! Fully sorted off-roader
Wow
Lol yea 300 mile range $110k and probably crap reliability, no thanks
@@miket2172which Hummer competitor should we give our $110k to, sir?
@G-Rated Toyota. I Wana see that hummer in 10+ years, lol
@@miket2172which Toyota competes dummy?
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If that thing can get ya excited about off roading they did a great job!
On the efficiency, does that mean you can drive to the trailhead, drive the trail and make it back to a charger in one charge?
drove that trail system in 2021 and it was awesome!
Can you not control the rear steer independently or is it always active? All of the rear steer systems that I've used have a separate joystick for the rear axle steering.
I don't think you can independently control it like a proper rear steer system... You can only pick a mode to change it's behavior.
Depends on the mode you are in can be 1:1 or 1.2:1 in steering. Can also disable it completely.
Did I miss whether there’s a mode to have rear steer in same direction as front?
The off-road ability is pretty amazing. I was not expecting that. What kind of range are we talking about here?
The convertible factor alone makes me want this over a Rivian R1S or Tesla Cybertruck.
I heard a rumor that the first year of the hummer EV cost more to charge then a commuter car costs to fill up with gass. Hopefully this new one does better in that area.
Let's see the dash - does it have instruments in front of the driver? or just that big tablet in the middle?
It's not a Tesla. Of course it has an instrument panel.
GM said that this is their super truck.....make it fly!
You must haven’t heard 0-60 times yet, it “flies” for sure.
@@G-Rated I'm talking about literally fly, like the Raptor & TRX did.
In American term...jump it!
@@christianglaude6659it doesn’t have to do anything a Raptor or TRX does in order to be a Super Truck. When the Raptor R and TRX are hitting 60 mph in 3 seconds, can clear rocks this large, boast rear wheel steering, tow 10,000 lbs, and drive itself then _they’ll_ be able to say the Raptor and TRX are super trucks…until then they ain’t.
The rear steer seems to be a hinderance can you lock it out ?
yes
Honestly if I could afford this I would give it a try. It's sweet, especially in person
Turdferguson - Jeep, Ford, Toyota just to name a few. Jeep hosts Easter Jeep Safari in Moab every year and brings several concepts.. just one example
You can hear it shreading the lugs off the tires due to weight
Seeing as you guys didn't like my comment on the cybertruck, how about this take?
I like the design and the colour of this Hummer, only shame is there's no petrol or diesel option
I really wanna see this go up against the new Land Cruiser. I know they're not quite the same class of vehicle but I think they're close enough to compare.
Love that they are fixing the problems but again in 100k miles what is the battery replacement vs what the value of the vic gonna be?
If GM is listening, they should totally do a slant back model as a nod to the OG H1 and HMMWV. Yeah, you'd lose cargo space, but it'd look cool and be more efficient with better aero.
There exists an aftermarket accessory for the bed that does exactly that.
@@Nebula1701 Cool!! Didn't know that.
Remember when the pickup version was selling for crazy money during the pandemic? I do like the SUV a lot. Biggest concern is depreciation. What do you thru that will be?
Do you have to tow it up the mountain so you can go on offroad tracks, then tow it back down the mountain to a charging station?
It really shows its weight. This thing should not be allowed to off-road. It does too much trail damage. What ever happened to the tread lightly mentality? Go green what a joke.
It's not going to hurt these rocks.
@@TroySavary It's hurting his brain.
This truck will destroy the Cyberdump!!!!!
That ledge was defnitely a nasty one and the surprisingly the hummer did it sooo well. Good job GM.
Don Jr. broke the word Dad for all of us
I agree that the weight is a major issue with EVs off-road - although there’s a lot of tech on that beast beyond the batteries that are adding weight. I suspect that the other stuff - which appears to primarily relate to the programming - will get figured out over time. My Wrangler 4Xe doesn’t have the throttle issue you guys talk about. I don’t know if I’ve just gotten used to it or it’s because they figure it out for the ‘24s, but in low range I find that I electric-only is my preferred set-up off-road. My second Tesla is much better than my first and FSD is now actually usable on the road. That’s the thing about tech, it typically gets better over time. BEVs and hybrids will improve over time and these guys will eventually figure out the best set-up that actually works both on and off-road.
And in the first seconds we see the crap power transfer/modulation.
Dino fuel and mechanical lockers are still the king for offroading.
37 inch tires, Nitto Ridge grapplers would of been best. ❤ Good year tires stink off road and on road. It was night and day on my power wagon. Less bumpy on highway with less noise. Sticky on rocks and stable off road. Nitto tires felt soft like glue.
Looks like they’ve fixed most of the problems with the Hummer EV but i think they could sell a lot more of them if they offered a hybrid model.
Sweet vehicle, thanks Roman and Tommy
I wounder for later iterations of the EV Hummer if they would forego the rear steering and put a solid rear Axel instead for better articulation
They have to figure a way to drastically lower the weight… the poor trail was getting pummeled by the Hummer EV. In an age where trail use is under increased scrutiny, that’s not gonna help us keep trails open.
I don't like EVs but I've always liked the Hummer EV. It's one of my darkest secrets
Can somebody please explain how this vehicle could do the canning stock route( or many others in Australia) ,just under 2000k ,no power, no fuel no servos road houses from begining to end . You can carry fuel or even have a supply dumped at a cattle station along the way . a bit hard to carry electricity
This suv is not made for Australia. It’s made for good old USA 🇺🇸
Two 40 lbs (16 kg) propane bottles with a small 3 KW Propane fuel cell generator would easily solve that issue. The Propane fillup would be less than 160 AUD ... I can get a propane generator for as cheap as 700 cdn (800 AUD) so range is no longer an issue AND the propane will support a lot of shrimp on the barbie!
@@djtesseract3064 It wouuld be debatble if that was enough fuel to get you through but you would run out of food anf water before you got to the end , charging from a 240v generator gives you 2km of charge for 10 minutes . To do 3000km would take 31 days of charging plus travel time , that is under ideal conditions , now add didcharge when using low range in sand dunes
How does it do in mud?
GM is quickly establishing itself as another leader in the EV world joining Tesla at the top. The Hummer EV SUV really gives you that Hummer vibe we all know and love from the 2000s. The SUV is the obvious successor to where the Hummer brand left off.
Looks interesting. I would love to test one here in the UK. Mud and ruts would be a good test. 🤔
EXACTLY WHY I SAID
Being able to control your rear steering angle seperate. Because that tail swing can get you in trouble.
Quick slide on the screen to control angle?
Could've swapped to a grab walk quickly on that first obstacle.
Would be a tone if fun actually.
Jesus that thing is going way too fast up that ledge. Is there not a low range you can select so its not trying to jolt you into next week when going over obstacles?
There are clearly issues with weight, and power delivery. There are times when you're getting too much torque too quickly, and others where the computer 'driving aids' are getting in the way. All that said, it's still orders of magnitude better than the CT.
You pushed these much harder than the Toyota's. Has the Tacoma become less capable, durable?
Looks a bit scary on the downhill, could run away with all the weight. Also off camber looks like the weight pulls it sideways more.
You literally just watched it crawl down the mountain. Did it run away with all the weight?
@@G-Rated Not just my opinion, even they have commented on issues with the extra weight in several situations, several times with ev's.
I wouldn't say it "crawled" down a mountain, lol. More like it slipped more than a traditional 4x4 down a small ledge.
@@dcmtrader tf are you talking about “it slipped more”? Small ledge?? Lol. Y’all can’t be serious 😂
@@G-Rated Like I said, not just my opinion. Are you an EV salesman? Or do you just have a problem with people having an opinion based in facts. If your looking to promote your channel, with your 2 subscribers and no content by attacking people I suggest you take the high road or pick on someone who's defenseless. But keep it coming if like looking foolish.
I'm interested in honest debate where others opinion are respected but you are coming straight at me and I neither deserve, not appreciate it.
@@dcmtrader this is not about opinions, the Hummer either conquered this trail with spotters or it didn’t and tow hooks were put to use. But I just love how y’all anti-EV folks come up with these alternative narratives of what actually took place and try to pass it on as your “opinion”. Absolutely hilarious.
They need to get more orange ones out in the wild
I want to see you folks testing the new M-B G580 Electric ... Tests I have seen from Europe make it look like the world's best off road SUV... When are you getting one to test?
For the not-so-big-EV-fans like me, I hope GM will introduce a gas hybrid option at a lower cost. That would be a very desirable SUV to have.
💯 just delete some battery for a efficient diesel or gas engine that runs at one constant rpm, making it run clean as well.
Yes please!
Its also make it like 50% smaller BC its the size of a house 😂
Probably less than 0% chance of that, however it really would be nice if they had offered an SUV on the Colorado/ canyon frame. That truck in SUV form would be a real 4Runner killer.
Happy for this wonderful video 🤓😎🤩
Oh🫣 and the battery 🫠 has a huge protector or strong cover for prevent damages?🤔 I hope because imagine a leak of this battery in the environment or for our own health. 😬
Thanks for share 🙏🏼🤝🏻
18:47 Base model comes with lockers too!!! Oooo!!!! 😮😮😮😮 19:00!
How much would repairs on this thing cost? Seems expensive not just to buy, but also to maintain.
I own a ford lightning extended range. I will sell it when the battery and motor warranty is up in 8 yrs.(standard warranty for EV) Beyond that I rotate tires, wipers, washer fluid. These are not good for towing long distance or diving over 180 miles daily. Or if you can't plug in 220 voltage at home in your driveway. Cheers.😀
@@matthewholzmueller6292 Hummer has better towing range than the Lightning.
@@Nebula1701 and?
@@matthewholzmueller6292 the Hummer is a better fit for towing so MMV.
@@Nebula1701 not really. The mpg equivalent is much lower for the hummer. It doesn't have a larger battery, as much as it needs a larger battery
How did you get charging out there? Looking to get one
Take the refrigerator with wheels(cybertruck) to this exact trail.
I like the performance, but the extreme weight destroys the trail when climbing 10x faster than a lighter vehicle. I'm both impressed but also cringing a little watching it rip the soil and rock apart when trying to go up. :(
My dad used to call his FJ40 the Land Crusher, but the meaning is literal in this case. The Hummer is not conquering the trails, it’s destroying them. Don’t care for it.
the virtual locker seems substantially better than rivian's
It looks like the 07 fj cruiser on an American diet
FJ Cruiser was already on an American diet.
C H U N K Y
GM says that 37 inch tires will fit with no problem.
TFL put 37s on their Hummer when they owned it
It's very cool they are showing these trucks in such a difficult environment but they will deny the hell out of your warranty if you do half of this
It’s a Hummer, they were built specifically for this. You won’t be needing the warranty for anything more than a software update that can be completed while it’s in the garage on the charger. These are bespoke Hummers from the ground up, not ICE converted F-150s or RAMs stuffed with batteries and an air suspension. The mechanical parts that make up this SUV are all heavy-duty. It’s GMC’s flagship model. Expect it to last and be reliable.
@@G-Rated look at the VP of marketing over here
@@SALTYSPITOONMOTORS oh yea, i forgot what audience I was amongst. This _is_ TFL. Y’all hate all things *gm* over here including the GMC Hummer. Just here to hate. Lmdao 🤡
@@G-Rated I have half a dozen GM products I love this is still broken trash lol
@@G-Rated did you quit responding because you finally watched some owner perspectives on this bad boy
I'm very impressed
The battery range is the enemy. My hummer suv in real life gets less than 200 miles
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Does the tesla have extraction mode? Cz that’s what it’d need if tries to do that course.
These trucks will not be around or collectible in 10 years unless there is an affordable way to convert it to a V8. The batteries are so expensive that most of these new ones will be in junk yards in 4 to 8 years if they don't melt from battery fires. GM has done a good job with their batteries compared to other manufactures when it comes to not catching fire as I haven't heard of a Hummer EV catching fire yet. However, there are not many on the road yet. TFL absolutely should mention the potential fire risks of owning an EV everytime they do an ev video. Not many people understand the fire risk and safety should come first, even if it makes the car company that invited you out for testing not so happy. However, they never say anything particularly bad about any new car they test anymore because they are afraid GM will give them the Subaru treatment. I miss the old days, when TFL was not afraid to make a not so nice review.
Amen!