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Is it worth to buy 2023 Hyundai Elantra Hybrid Blue? How long before you recoup difference in price?
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- Is it worth to buy 2023 Hyundai Elantra Hybrid Blue? How long before you recoup difference in price?
In this video I am taking my first look, walk around and test drive of this 2023 Hyundai Elantra Hybrid Blue, the most efficient Elantra Hybrid available.
Huge thanks to Gettel Hyundai of Lakewood for allowing me to film this vehicle. Check out their new and pre-owned vehicle selection at www.gettelhyun... or call them at 941-241-3627
The vehicle tested had the following factory installed options:
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Just got my 2023 Hyundai Elantra Hybrid Blue a week ago. Absolutely love it and easily getting 56mpg combined. It's quiet, comfortable, and feature rich. It loves running in EV mode, often I am on the highway at 55mph and I look at display and it's in EV mode! So far no complaints.
Thats awesome! 🙂
Hopefully you see this but can you confirm that the back led light strip glows? I thought it only glows on the Limited trim.
@@robertwilkinson6331 the strip between taillights on Hybrid Blue light up. Some of the regular Elantras don't.
Do you notice excessive noise at all ?
Most of the time it transitions in and out EV mode and i don't even notice. Much quieter than my 2017 Nissan Rogue. You only really hear the engine climbing hills or hard acceleration.
8 months later, I really appreciate you putting this video up
Thank you so much!
Thank you for the thorough review matt!! I feel like I got a lot of good information instead of someone trying to sell it to me 😊
I am glad to heat that!Thank you so much for watching!!
I wanted the white but honestly that candy Grey color looks great in the sun
On the original sticker this color is called Electric Shadow but on the website it doe snot even come close.
@@MattTheCarguy for sure also I noticed white cost 400$ and all the other colors a free 😆
I want this car but I don't drive much so the gas savings wouldn't make sense for me. However, I like the fact that I wouldn't need to gas up as much due to the efficiency and I don't plan on getting rid of any car until it falls apart so the savings are just a matter of time.
Yes, it is a good point. The best of both world would be a plug in hybrid. one of my viewers recently commented that he has a Kia Niro PHEV and he filled it up once in a year's time.
Get a cheaper gas model. If not driving far you will not see a savings. Only a higher car payment.
I have a 2023Hybrid Blue. The cruise control has a small jerk that you can feel when cruising. Took it to dealer, nothing known about it. Me and service manager drove another Hybrid it had same issue. If your going to buy one check it out with cruise on. Oh, was wanting to trade due to the small jerking. My dealer offered me 7,000 dollars less than I paid. Only little over 1,000 miles and not a month old. Plus MPG gadgets vs actual measured is off by around 10 mpg.
I would take it to dealership few more times, have it documented and if it is real deal file under lemon and get Hyundai involved.
@@MattTheCarguy ..today, my 1st time there, service manager drove it and noticed it also. No documentation done.
@@WC4WCRN mine does the same thing I have the 23 blue and it jerks when i bump my cruise up 2 mph.
@@ChimpMunkPlaysMC ..mine is still doing it after 3500 mi. Living in a rolling hill area its Very annoying. So I simply don't use cruise control. The lane assist is also useless unless you want to be pulled over for DUI. Just disappointing to me. Doesn't matter if I use cruise control to speed up or slow down, still a small increase/decrease in power that you can easily feel. Almost makes you sea sick.
Bigger tires on the Limited is the biggest contributor to the lower combined fuel economy vs the Blue.
Good info! Thanks!
Just for info, you compared recouping of cost from Hybrid Blue to SE. The options of the SE don't compare so it would be better to compare the SEL which is $2,650 less than the Blue and gets Combined 34MPG, compared to 54MPG. So it is about 6 years to recoup the cost of the Blue.
Thanks for the info. Still a significant amount of time
Thank you for pointing this out. We pulled the trigger on two of these today. I look forward to driving a vehicle that gives OPEC+ the finger!
It really depends how many miles you drive as well. I went for the hybrid because my commute is long, I put about 3000 miles on my car a month.
No modern car gets just 34mpg..even luxury Audis in Europe with Turbodiesel at 100mph average speed, get 40mpg easily --- standard Gold for Ford Focus probbaly 50
Dealers have markups here in Cali. This car on dealer site is already marked up 26k. On the lot its even more. I test drove the limited at over 35k but walked away. Dealer really pushed to get me to sign for car. Car was nice, not my color, and they barely buged to $31995. Before taxes and fees .
Thats crazy! But as long as people buy them they will keep marking them up. First slow month and prices will drop. My advice is to hold off if you can.
We went with the blue. My one comment for the video would relate to the price comparison to the ICE models. If you want many of the features the blue has, you are basically buying the SEL and the price difference becomes much more minimal. In that situation the gas savings alone pay for themselves much more quickly.
That is true. You get more with base hubrid than base ICE. Good point!
It depends how you drive too - if you drive in normal or smart and drive economically for the most part - the difference shrinks, particularly if you have a winter season where "that motor" is going to be constantly running to keep those batteries warm. On the other side, you will recoup a lot of that difference if you sell it say 6 -7 years down the road - worse case you will sell it easier as couriers and so on are buying the used ones up (particularly with low mileage) like crazy. Arguably your maintenance should be lower too AND here you get 3 years more warranty on a lot of the components related to that powertrain (5/60 is the factory here). Here - likely because that model comes from the USA I think - comes with additional features over gas only model - LED rear lights, dual heat, and more are not on the gas version).
Of course it depends on driving but for the comparison purposes i took an average what manufacturer claims to make it easier. In which country are you located? Powertrain warranty in the US is 7/100k miles
I am a huge fan of your reviews, very detailed.
As a small TH-cam channel, I know all about the grind 💪
Thank you! Its all about the grind. I will definitely use some of your detailing advise on my Jeep!
11 years to break even for the average person. That's an interesting way to look at it, and about my usage pattern. Didn't realize such a long break even.
This is strictly from the coat peespective. As you can see many people pointed out some additional features that you get with the hybrid but in my opinion the bottom line is that for now the cost difference is still too large to justify hybrid purchase for anyone who drives 10-15k miles per year. Most people wont keep the car for 11 years. Thanks for watching!
@@MattTheCarguy ..Im roughly 60mi a day x4. Compared to my 2010 Elantra I'm not seeing much difference. Maybe Fifty cents on a good week.
@@WC4WCRN whats the gas mileage that you are averaging?
Hi Matt, I appreciate your thorough and succinct videos! The way I look at it is, if you have an existing vehicle that gets 20 mph and gas prices are getting higher, then buying a hybrid with 56 mpg will almost be pay for itself in savings! That's my motivation. Anyway we're trying to get by a Tucson Hybrid Blue, I currently have a Lexus Rx 300 and the mpg is not that great. Would love to get 38 mpg on most all driving conditions! Can you cover the 2023 blue hybrid Tucson soon? Thank you!
Thank you very much for your kind comment. I will do 2023 as one becomes available, however i dont think its changed from 2022 and here is my review of it th-cam.com/video/O3GREHKwCxE/w-d-xo.html
Thank you so much for this video
You are very welcome😀
Amazing video. I have about 10k equity on my Stinger which averages me 20mpg and it’s my daily. I’m averaging 20k miles a year and spending about 100 a week on gas. I’m thinking of switching to this.
Thanks for watching! Based on your numbers dependong of course on cost of gasoline but at 20k miles per year with 20mpg avg you are burning about 19 gallons per week. With Blue Hybrid Elantra if avg is 54 mpg you would be burning 7.1 gallons per week. Difference would be about 12 gallons per week at currently by me $3.3 a gallon would be close to $40 per week savings. BUT it would also be a huge adjustment as far as the drive.
Complicsting factors to consider:
1) resale value of hybrid vs gas
2) inflation over the years
3) cost of gas in the future
#1 is probably the most relevant as the other 2 are difficult to predict.
Did you do any comparison? How do hybrid compare to non hybrid? Percentage of MSRP. Are they same or different?
What needs to also be considered is resale value. When gas is $5 a gallon resale value will be higher than a regular non hybrid model. Just look at a few months ago how high mpg vehicles were in demand. Gas will never be $2.50 a gallon anymore.
Good point, but very dependent on gas prices. I disagree as far as gas prices. With change at the helm we may see $2.50 a gallon. It is 3.39 in Florida now.
@@MattTheCarguy We live in NW Oregon and the least expensive price for gas here is Costco in Warrenton Oregon at $4.049 /gallon of regular. Other stations are at $4.29-$4.49 per regular. The Liberal west coast, CA/WA/and OR have terribly high gas prices. Thats why people on the west coast consider MPG an important consideration when purchasing a new or used vehicle. Try finding a RAV 4 Prime at MSRP, and other similar vehicles as well.
I agree we need to be once again energy independent and pump more oil here in the U.S. and stop begging countries that hate our guts for some of their oil at inflated prices as well. Crazy times we live in and we all suffer.
@@alfontana6242 There's always somebody making everything political
Hi 👋 Matt .been considering getting the blue Hybrid model . I have a 2015 Chevy Spark 1LT bought it used in Summer of 2016 with 14,400 miles now i have 85,180 miles Runs great sub compact. I looked @ KBB my value in clean condition is $5,680.00 i use Redline Synthetic oil . Maintenance is cheap getting ready to but first set of break pads & Rotors on it. New belts & hoses . I like a hybrid something a lot bigger. Dealerships just mark cars soo high . I just wait it out . My car br paid for in 2 months . Great Review 👍
Thank you for watching! Prices are starting to stabilize especially for new cara. You can see more inventory at dealership. One thing to keep in mind is that as the new car prices go down so are the used car values so look at the difference figure. Always something 🤣
Don’t know what to take in 2023 in case of investment/economy(CA): Nissan SV Kicks, Corolla Hybrid or this one
Some people are keep tellin that only EVs will be in Cali so this is so tough to choose😩
I doubt this will ever happen but all 3 are pretty good choices with my least favorite being the Kicks however its been a few years since I've been in one.
Honestly i don't understand how they managed to have that kind of room in the back seat. It's mind boggling for a compact car
It wasn"t bad at all.
Gas in CA is over 6 per gallon. So pay off time is only 5 years.
That is not something to brag about. In a state that will ban gasoline vehicles soon but doesnt have big enough grid to support all EVs. I would move 😥. It is just over $3 here in Florida.
@@MattTheCarguy not bragging!! Just pointing out that the payoff time is lower if gas is more expensive.
Sonata or Elantra which one better
Both nice, Sonata is bigger
You will get more $$ when you go to sell the hybrid so some of the upfront cost difference will be recovered. Plus it has a better rear suspension which is supposed to significantly improve the ride and handling over the non-hybrids.
Valid points however the hybrid drops the same as non hybrid so percantage of value to new shoukd be the same. Multi link rear suspension vs torsion beam does make a difference. Thanks!
Thank you!
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what color is this? I cant seem to find it anywhere
They call it Electric Shadow 0:13
When compared to the non-hybrid Elantra, the Hybrid will save the average driver about $50 per month (at current fuel prices). If fuel does not go up in price, the Hybrid option will pay for itself in about 4 years. Over the lifespan of the vehicle, the Hybrid option will save its owner about $10,000. If fuel does go up in price, savings will be considerably more.
What numbers are you using for your calculations? And for the lifespan, do you include cost of battery reaplacement?
@@MattTheCarguy Matt, my numbers are not correct; I'm in Canada, and fuel prices are higher, and our dollar is weaker. I neglected to compensate. According to the EPA, the Hybrid Blue delivers 54 MPG on combined City/Highway driving. A regular Elantra delivers 37 MPG under the same conditions. Assuming 1,000 miles driven per month, the Hybrid will save its owner 8.5 gallons per month. At the current national average fuel price of $3.56 per gallon, that means the Hybrid will currently save its owner $30.29 per month. If you live in Washington State, you will save $42.03, given the higher fuel cost in that state. Over the last 50 years, fuel prices have risen at about 6% per year; if that trend continues for the next 15 years, the national average price for fuel will be $8.53 per gallon in 15 years. Regarding battery replacement, I did not include that number in the calculation as I cannot derive a reasonable way to value a battery 15 years from now. However, the battery in the Elantra is smaller than most, so I would expect its cost to be commensurate with its size. Hope that helps - Charlie
@@charlesworton4020 Absolutely! Thanks for clarifying!
too bad about the "fake dent" on the side doors. that color looks like primer paint.
Hahaha, i havent heard that before
Will this be good for ride share ? Currently doing delivery and have an older Camry. I need to improve my mpg… I put over 1k miles in about 10 days.
I think it would work very well
Don't be foolish by buying a new car to do ride share. That's a good way to lose money!!
@@jeff8039 I’m still waiting. Not buying anything just yet. Looking into a 2010+ Prius. In my area a 15 year old car will qualify. I’m going to test my market first to see if it’s profitable. If it is I’ll get a new car then.
Thanks Matt. Is there an option to replace the ugly black wheels with something more conventional?
Wheels are easy. As long you have the same sizs possibilities are endless. As far as the standard equipment they will not change but there may be an upgrade option. You can go to the manufacturer's website and build one to see whats available.
Did you ever work for Stockton Hyundai
No sir!
I’ll buy one without markups.
My thoughts exactly! ...ans I did! OTD including all taxes destination charge and tags only 28300!
You should be able to
@@MattTheCarguy where?
@@prblakeslee Where at?
Hyundai of Wesley Chapel (Florida)...they had two "blue" two days ago....both gone (I got grey one IDENTITCAL to video). They also had a white "limited", but it is 5K more.
I just test drove one today in Beacon NY and it seems really good.... thinking bout getting it...seems like it will be wel worth it!....
Definitely!
@@MattTheCarguy im a little concerned about how it will handle in the snow ❄️ this winter ...will it handle well in your honest opinion ?
@@jamesbeauchamps9835 probably just as well as any other compact sedan such as Civic, Corolla or Rio. If you live in the area that gets a lot of snow I would consider an awd vehicle.
@@MattTheCarguy yo definitely bro I went with the AWD Tucson SEL version looks nice yo pick it up on Tuesday...it's definitely a go for me!!! Appreciate the feedback bro!
@@jamesbeauchamps9835 Congratulations! Great choice!
wait i hear shifting it shoulndt be shifting engine only drives a motor should not be shifting at all
Why wouldnt it shift? It has 6 speed dual clutch transmission
@@MattTheCarguy because its a hybrid.. a hybrid has no mechanical connection it connects directly to the electric motor the motor drives the wheels there for the engine maintains a small margin for reving thats why.. every hybrid ive seen heard etc does this but this car makes no sense..
@@jackoneill8585 typical hybrid has an electric motor that sit between engine and transmission. It still need a transmission to transfer power to the wheels. Show me one hybrid (not electric vehicle) without transmission.
a hybrid will hold it's value a lot better than a normal car
Not necessarily. If you look for what they are selling or even go to KBB it is almost the same. (percentage of MSRP)
Dealers don’t use KBB. They use the Black Book as well as NADA when it comes to trade in values
@@suwinky actually they use MMR or VAuto valuation as these are the most accurate auction prices. MMR is Manheim Market report. Vauto is a software built off that as well. These are both owned by the same company. They use actual Auto auction sales prices based on year, make model mileage and condition report. Vauto uses retail valuation based on the actual registrations. Unfortunately neither is available to the public. I used KBB as a guide as it is available to individual consumer. NADA is as well and its not much off. Black Book requires subscription and I threw mine out as they were quite off.
The color is very nice, what the name if it ?
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I doubt that hybrid is a smart buy, because it may not save money. The reason is the additional cost of buying a hybrid and the battery replacement makes the gas saving not very outstanding. For example the overal fuel economy of a gas and a bybrid vehicle is 6.7l/100km and 4.7l/100km repectively, so the difference is only 2L/100km or saving $3/100km. To buy a hybride elantra in Canada, you need to pay 2500+hst more than a gas one, which would be $2825. $2825/$3/100km=94,166.67km, which means you need to drive 94,166.67km to make the saving on gas equal to the additionl payment of $2825 for getting the hybride one. In other words, for every additional km beyond 94,166.67km, you just start to saving money. However, do not forget the battery do have a life of use, which is approximately 160,000km/100,000 miles. So (160,000km-94,166.67km)*$3/100km= $1,975, this amount is what you would save eventually for your first battery life cycle without caculating the time value or interests cost of the additional $2825. And if keep this car long term, you have to pay for the replacement of the battery which would be at least another $3000 or even much more, and if the replacement cost beyond $2825+$1975=$4800, you would actually lose money for purchasing the bybrid one. How do you guys think?
Good info!
Man the infotainment screen in my 2015 golf looks better than this ones haha
I would prefer the 10.25 inch screen which is much nicer but this is a base model. Some competitors, such as Subaru or Toyota offer 8 inch screen as an upgrade. Not really familiar with 2015 Golf but cant imagine it was bigger.
@@MattTheCarguy yeah the screen in my golf is smaller for sure but it aesthetically holds up way better than that of Elantra haha. The screen size doesn't bother me as much as how it looks in the car itself. Maybe I'm just weird tho and others don't care about that type of stuff.
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I drove about 35-40k miles a year, should i switch to hybrid?
Did you do the calculations that i explained in the video? Seems like the mileage is high so you would be saving about 900 per year on gas but if the car is 4k more expensive it will take you over 4 years to break even.
@@MattTheCarguy u right, but never know when gas will go up, like 6 mo ago we had $5.29 per gallon)))
@@vzheka1981 chances are it will not happen but even if it will it will maybe drop it to 3 years. If they were the same price, no question it would be worth going with Hybrid but I see so many people paying 5K more, drive 12K miles a year and trade it in in 3 years. There are some people that it would definitely make sense for. Delivery drivers, Uber, Taxi etc. Someone with very long commute. I think Hybrids are the way of the future but most people don't need it for gas savings.
i mean if ur driving that much why not go fully electric?
@@jacobshamoon300 electric too expensive 🫰 $40-50k and hybrid or gas more convenient
i got a 2021 elantra hybrid for $32,000 mine is limited fulling loaded
How do you like it?
MATT!-- "I did my own math" as U stated--U Forgot that the cost of gas is expected to go to $8.27 US average by 2027 & that Hyundai gives a Life-Time free replacement battery for the Hybrid!...Just sayin'...
That is a very dark prediction but not impossible with inflation at current rate it may even surpass that. In that case this car would probably go up in price another 5k at MSRP. You can' t win 😤
@@MattTheCarguy Yeah, I know...Inflation WILL go Up (never down, right? 😅)--But I'm telling my friend about getting a Hyundai Elantra Blue Hybrid after in part watching your video, as his ten-year-old car is not doing to well 😰 / He's looking to move to Florida soon & may check out the dealership you mentioned in the video, but will still drive back to Jersey in the summer's so that extra driving, as you say, may actually pay off over-time, especially if gas goes up and since Hyundai gives a lifetime replacement on the hybrid-battery🔋/ Thank's again for the video, Matt! / PS: U think that road noise from the tires would be alleviated with different tires put on? Just wondering...
@@gregsayles9253 i definitely think that tires make huge difference in road noice. If your friend does a lot of driving it would be worth it. Especially the Blue trim
The HEV blue is equivalent to the SEL not the SE so the comparison is not an accurate one. Compare the price of the blue and the SEL and their price/mpg differences for a more accurate comparison
So the price difference between the SE and the SEL is $1250. SEL has slightly worse gas mileage than SE (34 combined vs 37combined) The numbers would be slightly different but not by much. Do the math.
Regarding the fuel savings/investment, this does not take into account people who want to help reduce global CO2 emissions. This is invaluable.
Well considering the amount of energy and lithium mining that it takes to produce the battery i think the difference here would be marginal if any. Look up lithium mining effects on environment
@@MattTheCarguy lithium mining has more of an effect on human labor and doesn't have much if any negative impact on greenhouse gas emissions which is the giant train coming down the tracks to f**k us as a species if we don't get a hold on it. Plus lithium can be derived from sea salt and tech is close in the development of practical ways to separate the lithium from the seawater.
Right now we need to address the most pressing environmental issue first and greenhouse gasses causing environmental changes is by far most immediate danger. Saying reducing emissions is negligible due to lithium is just flat out either disingenuous if you know better or ignorant if you don't. Stop saying it.
@@vicenzor3625 I will keep on saying that EVs are nit the solutions. Biggest BS that I've heard of. Even Toyota last week presented facts and research stating so. Biggest pollution come from agriculture. Are we going to stop eating? Plus think about where is the electricity coming from to power up these electric vehicles? Majority is from burning fossil fuels. And if you think lithium mining is not harmul to the environment do some reseach. Plenty of articles highlihthing this issue including this one:
www.euronews.com/green/2022/02/01/south-america-s-lithium-fields-reveal-the-dark-side-of-our-electric-future#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20report%20by,water%2C%E2%80%9D%20says%20the%20report.
Hydrogen and hybrids are the way of the future, but there is not as much money to be made there.
Im all for helping reduce emissions as well, it’s just not a quantifiable value, could still be worth a mention but not when helping convince someone who doesn’t care, to buy an electric vehicle
1 volcano makes more co2 then all Human activities combined ever
Hydrogen Electric is the future, especially when it comes to cars. Just needs someone to invent a better engine frame, as Hydrogen Engines right now aren't cost effective. In due time though... FYI, Musk bought out a hydrogen company not too long back for this reason.
Many manufacturers have been experimenting with hydrogen cars such as Honda and BMW among others but none went outside of California. Maybe in time ....
The gas mileage being worse is from the bigger tiris and that's about it
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The hybrid blu is thensame as the sel non hybrid withought the convenience pack the difference is 2k but if you put the convenience pack the sel is the same price. And if you look at real world MP G of 35 versus 50 three, and let's say you've factored in.
15000 miles a year Then it would only take about four years. That is unless you get the s c l with the convenience package to get Heated seats which you get on the blue hybrid the the savings come right away
Good point but also on the SEL trim the gas mileage is slightly lower than SE. You have 31mpg combined vs 34mpg on SE which is looking better for the Hybrid. I still would recommend buying a non hybrid unless you do 15k plus per year.
I wish it came with a hitch for my bikes
You can always add one.
@Matt The Carguy can you though? I don't see any available online. They all exclude the n lines, n, and hybrids
and dont forget, hybrids cost more to insure, plate, and most states have a surcharge every year on hybrids and evs because of the loss of gasoline taxes. and most people wont keep their cars for more than 5 years. i just dont think its worth buying the hybrid versions.
Where is your information coming from? In Florida there is no surcharge on hybrids. Registration is same as regular car. I would have to check with insurance company to compare rates but doubt that hybrid has anything to do with that.
That grab bar is just stupid and crowded feeling.
Haha
I just bought a 2023 Elantra Hybrid, and I do not like that grab bar on the passenger side. It seems like an unneeded nuisance feature. I was going to walk away from the car because of it, then changed my mind. Guess I can get used to it..
I own this car and I’m getting 60 miles per fallin
Per fallin? You mean gallon?
@@MattTheCarguy yes,
I love my Elantra hybrid blue
@@chalecoco610 60mpg! Thats huge!
How does it handle in snow?
what you s hould ask is how long before i have to replace the battery? so save money but then in 10 years youll need 7 more grand sooooooooooo
It is covered for 10 years but most people wont keep it that long. It used to be really expensive at first now it has gone down. Still probably 3-4 k
When I bought mine there is an option for $3000 you can double the manufacture warranty. So it has a 10 year 120,000 mile bumper to bumper and a 20 year 200,000 mile powertrain warranty!! No battery worries here.
Worst car colour in the history of humankind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who thought that colour was a good idea?
I think it looks great! 😀
I like it too!
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Thanks for the review
@@RN4kids916 you are very welcome! Thanks for watching!