In these clips of Riker dining with the Klingons, (and there are several out there) they always leave out my favorite part, small but telling. It occurs after Klag teases Riker about having the females breast feed him and everyone, including Riker, has a good laugh. Riker tells Klag he is surprised because he never envisioned Klingon warriors laughing and joking, that he always thought of them as cold and serious. Klag admits that he always thought of Star Fleet officers the same way, then added, "Perhaps we are not so different after all." That understanding, I think, was the real start of the friendship.
@@GORF_EMPIREno doubt I've watched a bit of the original and everything from next gen to Enterprises. I'm not a diehard but I know more then the average person.
if tv has taught me one thing, it's to pretend to turn away and then turn back and sucker punch people who get in your way. Works every time. Thanks, stng.
@@JasonAguirre when they made that movie, there was no way to know what future movie villains would be like, so it was unavoidable. But now that future Griff exists in the past, he is susceptible to the technique. The technique only works in present or past context.
@@JasonAguirre When Marty traveled to the future, Griff was already in the future, and so he could see the punch coming. It is impossible to sucker punch someone who is in the future, even when you go to the future. If a punch like that were to land, the space time continuum would rupture and the universe would explode.
This is actually a real thing... if you're in an argument with somebody and they glance away in a casual manner they are probably about to strike. Be ready for it.
According to the books, Klag ended up killing Kargan and taking his command when the captain showed cowardice in the face of the enemy during the Dominion War. Klag eventually ended up with his own Vorch'a class ship, IKS Gorkon, with Toq (the young Klingon Worf rescued from the Romulan prison planet in a later episode) as one of his junior officers.
Watching Riker and Klag become BFF's on the bridge, made me wonder how many bridge consoles get shorted out and damaged as Klingons practice "male bonding"??
Another observation: Klingon repair crews must be phenomenally skilled to repair them in so short of a time that it never seems to affect ship operations. :)
@@loka7783 I'm sure they use the Soviet approach to technology: Inferior, rugged, and nearly indestructable. 😉 Compared to the Federation, that uses the American approach: Advanced, delicate, and prone to failure every few episodes/hours. 😅
it would have been awesome both of them on DS9..can you imagine the fun and chaos they would cause? and maybe steal the runabout and pick a fight with the dominion...
Klaag apparently ended up siding with the Duras sisters and became their navigator in ST Insurrection (or was it Generations?) Where he and the girls got Kirked
@@SantomPh It was Generations. He was the one that yelled "We are cloaking! Our shields are down!" right before the Enterprise blew them up with a torpedo, and subsequently was blown up.
@@CptChaos47 it would be sad to see Klaag end up fighting for the Duras faction but perhaps his captain was so pissed off with Riker he chose the side that opposed the Federation
Unless he was a spy? I know Klingons are generally NOT keen on spy craft, but there are exceptions, and I think someone in the Klingon high council might want to keep an eye on the family of Duras because of how treacherous they have been, especially if someone got wind of them getting a weapon that could bring the current empire regime to their knees.
@@Biden_is_demented now just throw Kirk in there as some kind of grand master mentor of alien poon they follow the teachings of lol 😂 I would totally watch that and am not afraid to admit it
Klingon's can be violent, but most of them aren't stupid. Klag would probably be executed by his Captain before the day is out for killing a Starfleet officer for no reason.
@@TRoller927 says: *But It's with Lursa and B'ehtor. The two most dishonorable Klingons aside from their brother Duras. Klag deserved a better end.* Then Klag shouldn't have joined Lursa and B'ehtor because as a result he deserved the end that he got.
According to Memory Beta, when, then, Cadet Riker took the Kobayashi Maru, he challenged the commander of the Klingon task force to EVA one-on-one combat, giving his crew time to repair the Kobayashi Maru. He died in the process, but both ships managed to escape the encounter. So yeah, I think he's got a firm grip on Klingon culture.
@@Kalenz1234 Leaving the romulans and cardassians and specifically Damar out is just cold.Without them all 3 of them would have died. Ross I dont believe ever personally was on any ship that was fighting?
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants Ross took command during the final push to Cardassia. I don't know if he is shown taking part before. Even so he was in command of the Federation fleet. He decided where to go and laid out the battle plan. Even Martok went on several operations or sent Klingon fleets according to Ross' suggestion without question. If a Klingon general trusts a human in military matters without question that human is doing something right.
Actually, the line was "We ARE cloaking! Our shields are down!" A Klingon ship can only have shields up while the cloak is disabled. They will raise shields as the cloak is turning off. As the ship slowly fades into visibility, the shields are coming up.
I've always nursed a theory that the whole incident in this episode with the hull parasite was actually a test by the Klingons. They wanted to see how things would go, and were perhaps hoping that Riker would go so far in his duty as to destroy the Enterprise, and take his rightful place as a Captain in the Klingon Defense Force. Or, he would fail to honor their ways and would prove that exchanging officers was a bad idea. It was brilliant of him to think of an alternative though I do wonder what a Klingon Riker would be like. I bet he'd be glorious.
Fanon story where Riker is temporarily commissioned as captain on a warbird, and all the crew respect the absolute shit out of him as "Riker the Klingon" because his name is legend on Qonos
Klag appears in the Star Trek expanded universe, so to the authors, who had to go by canon, there was an understanding that the helmsman in Generations was not Klag.
Reusing shots is one way of making these films and movies more affordable. of course, the editors can do some color modification and recut them so they don't appear to be the same.
I actually thought that this was an example of how desperate the Duras sisters were. They couldn't get an up to date ship so they had to take an old one. Perhaps I read too much into it.
Really, that episode was more about him and Klag bonding. I would have loved a DS9 episode with Will guest-starring, during the Dominion War, trying to return the favor by borrowing the Defiant, Worf, and O'Brien for an hour of screen time, to rescue Klag from a Dominion prison camp or something.
Hmm. When I now watch the two series back to back and this episode comes up, I often wonder what happened to Klag and the rest of the crew during the war with The Dominion. Were all the Klingons we met in this episode killed? Probably so, and I find that kind of sad.
What I'd like to see is a story where Lwaxanna Troi was captured by The Dominion, perhaps it would have been discovered that she was replaced by a changling, and thus was being kept in a Dominion prison camp somewhere in the Alpha quadrant. Anyway, a rescue expedition would then be sent out to find and rescue her, led by _Alexander Roeshenko_ ! Dianna Troi, and some other past character could be included, and they would all have to grow and adapt as soldiers and warriors to rescue her. (No Worf in this story). At the end, Alexander would be killed, and Lwaxanna Troi would be one of the people who'd do the Klingon Death Scream. And, She would then _understand why_ Klingons do that; she would have become a little bit Klingon, herself. That ending would show the kind of understanding of Alien mentalities that protagonists gain, in the best Star Trek stories.
"Near-exact"? I don't think so. The Root of that story would be the expansion on Alexander's character, and his friendship with Lwaxanna Tro, from his childhood, into his adulthood.
@@TheNoiseySpectator Just like they further expanded Nog's character and his relationship with his father and uncle, with Brunt providing comic relief? I will give you that I would have preferred your story, instead of the hour of "Ferengi Funnies" that happened instead, but the episodes are still pretty much the same thing, have the same premise, and would have had similar outcomes, save that yours calls for the death of a semi-major character. It would have added more back story to Alexander, and I would really like to see how you'd justify Deanna's mom having a familial relationship with Alexander, given that he was initially sent back to Earth with Worf's parents, and migrated to Klingon space afterwards. I'm not knocking you for proposing the idea, understand, I would just like to see the reasoning.
The Klingon aboard the Duras's Ship was portrayed by the same actor as Klag, but Klag is commander of his own ship by then. He does not die and is listed as "active" according to canon, which means he will only be changed to "died XXXX" once someone comes up with a canonical story that has him die sometime, which is approved of the StarTrek franchise owners. Until then, he does *not* die with the Duras Sisters.
Riker is far more dangerous than most of his opponents realize, he's tough, smart, and knows several martial arts. Jonathan frakes played him brilliantly, and he obviously did that fight scene very well
Love how star trek pays attention to little details. Like at 3:24 when klag hits riker in the neck. Rikers whole head went forward because that's how strong klingons are.
I love how one of the Klingons, the very first one that asks Riker why he is not eating very much, just said Ha Ha to Klags joke, so he could get that it is a joke, and he should laugh.
+Leo Peridot Considering the Federation's long history of war with the Klingons, I think it's more likely that every member of Starfleet receives specific training in fighting Klingons hand-to-hand. You see Riker use a leverage throw here, which supports this. If Starfleet knows crews will likely end up fighting trained warriors which are physically stronger and more durable than humans, they'll use Judo and Aikido techniques for using an opponent's strength against them.
+Leo Peridot You don't need to be Bruce Lee to learn practical techniques for defeating larger and stronger opponents. Women's self-defence courses do that pretty quickly and easily, teaching women to go for the eyes, the top of the feet, the groin, and so on. I would guess that techniques for handling Klingons work the same way. You see Riker here getting in a sucker punch, for instance, and that could very well be part of the training -- and why Starfleet members seem to be so good at taking on Klingons. On the other hand, they tend to get their asses handed to them by Vulcans.
generations was probably the only Trek film to give the feel of the real mass of ships and how their weapons felt more like cannons and huge emitters than in the shows. Also that photon torpedo at 5:05 is probably the most satisfying sound in all of trek :P
The Enterprise triggered the cloak on the Bird of Prey as it fired an aft torpedo at its current location before the cloak, but I guess the writers felt they would make it so that they thought it might miss, even though they didn't move at all lolz
Isn't that the same explosion clip of the Bird of Prey from the Khitomer Accord attack on the Enterprise, and Cpt. Sulu's ship? "Target that explosion and, Fire!"
I think the whole bit of Lursa & Beytor using the modulation frequency to get through the Enterprise-D's shields a "very" convenient loophole... especially since the Borg encounters the shields were designed to rotate frequencies to prevent that exact thing from happening.
Was that something that happened regularly or was it only done when facing the Borg as that's when it was really needed? Other times the shields could just operate in one frequency.
This could just be my head-canon (or I could have read it somewhere. There's a LOT of material out there), but I think this is the incident that caused Star Fleet to start using rotating shield modulations (very similar in concept to the Frequency-hopping Spread-Spectrum first used in military radios and later carried over to cellular transmitters) which turned out to be vital to defense in the Dominion War.
No, it's Canon. A Klingon engineer of all beings actually did it by accident and it just stuck. So they told the highers ups, who told Starfleet; and the rest is history...
Of course, I am an Enterprise fan, but referring to the second video, even after the Enterprise was able to dismantle the Klingon ship's shield and cause the cloak to begin, unless I missed something, the Klingons still had time to hit warp and get out of there unless the simply panicked?
Even with that said, unless the Enterprise did something that permanently kept the cloak on, they still had time to turn it off and get out of there. Of course, time is essential, but I have been in situations while driving and avoided accidents and only had a few seconds to assess the situation and take action. The key is to keep your head. Of course, no one is perfect, but the military trained is to do that.
At least, thank to Riker, Klag died in the glory of battle... differently from his old man... There is somewhat of the ultimate klingonized act of friendship in this...
Supposedly it's not Klag. Just the same actor. Apparently in some books, he kills the captain of that episode due to cowardice and takes command, and does well.
Riker was wearing a com badge, it has a universal translator which automatically translates all verbal communications, it would have done so without prompting as soon as it picked up the Klingon's talking.
This was a one of the best episodes in the series. However, I think they should have made one or two more in sequence following the ships mission, where Riker and Klag are fighting a Klingon adversary not known to the Federation.
There was definitely good material there to turn into a couple more episodes. Like others said, and I concur with, he would of been great to have been on other TNG episodes involving Riker, and DS9 with the Klingons vs the Dominion.
Klag's actor would later turn up in ST Generations as a member of Lursa and B'etor's crew. He was the one who says "Mistress, a Federation starship is entering the system" when Enterprise arrives at the Viridian system
I refuse to believe Lt. Klag would fire on the Enterprise, especially knowing Riker is aboard! Klingons are passionate AND LOYAL! I refuse to believe we will not see Riker and Klag together again!
5:26 That's the same exploding ship that killed Commander Chang (Christopher Plummer) and his renegade Klingon crew in STAR TREK VI: THE UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY (1991), the last Trek film to star the entire TOS crew.
Special effects must have been expensive... Do you know the office of the President of the Federation at Federation HQ on earth in the same film is actually the set for Ten Forward that had been dressed to look like an office?
The Capt was going to attack the Enterprise so Riker handed him a transporter homing beacon and was transported to the Enterprise when they thought they were beaming Riker back. Riker took command of Klingon ship and it pissed the Capt off.
When Riker tricks the Klingon Captain and he get transported to the Enterprise, Riker plays the role of the Klingon Captain in asking Picard to surrender. He did so to make fun of or to embarrass the Klingon Captain.
@@TTUGrad2010 Big picture answer? This was demonstrating how Klingons are psychologically different from humans, and how Riker had come to understand them well enough that he could utilize their moores to interact as one of them. I though he took a big chance on getting stabbed in the heart! = (
Same actor, but they're not the same characters. According to Memory Alpha: _Klag was played by recurring Star Trek actor Brian Thompson in his first appearance in the franchise. He would later portray an unnamed Klingon helm officer serving aboard the ill-fated Duras sisters' Bird-of-Prey in Star Trek Generations._
In these clips of Riker dining with the Klingons, (and there are several out there) they always leave out my favorite part, small but telling. It occurs after Klag teases Riker about having the females breast feed him and everyone, including Riker, has a good laugh. Riker tells Klag he is surprised because he never envisioned Klingon warriors laughing and joking, that he always thought of them as cold and serious. Klag admits that he always thought of Star Fleet officers the same way, then added, "Perhaps we are not so different after all." That understanding, I think, was the real start of the friendship.
I love that bit too. It's small but it's where they realize they could become friends
Also, the part where Klag related the story of his father. The whole dinner scene was good.
Yes everyone likes tits.
It's Starfleet, not Star Fleet. It's Star Trek, not Star Trak, it's Star Wars, not Star War.
@@Locutus They're just fictional nonsense so it doesn't matter. Your petty nature and inability to prioritise show a low IQ.
I think we need a series that follows Riker and Klag as they bar hop across the sector.
That's awesome!
It would have been interesting if they had had them reencounter one another occasionally.
@@odysseusrex5908 there was a book series that detailed Klag as the captain of his own ship.
Or have Klag meet Thomas Riker.
On a motorcycle.
They are not the same klingon... just the same actor. Klag was honorable, which can not be said about any member of the Duras Klan.
Yeah. Plus the head ridges are different. So yeah not the same Klingon.
Shit someone knows there treklol
Star Trek also did the same thing with the character who invented warp travel for humanity. That actor played another character in Generations
@@richardparnell8402 Been watching it since the late sixties. You get to know something after that long. xD
@@GORF_EMPIREno doubt I've watched a bit of the original and everything from next gen to Enterprises. I'm not a diehard but I know more then the average person.
I always liked how the Federation eventually became allies with the Klingons. It opened up so much variety in character driven episodes.
if tv has taught me one thing, it's to pretend to turn away and then turn back and sucker punch people who get in your way. Works every time. Thanks, stng.
And it's still considered an honorable technique
Except on future Griff Thannen. Damn cybernetics...
@@JasonAguirre when they made that movie, there was no way to know what future movie villains would be like, so it was unavoidable. But now that future Griff exists in the past, he is susceptible to the technique. The technique only works in present or past context.
@@JasonAguirre When Marty traveled to the future, Griff was already in the future, and so he could see the punch coming. It is impossible to sucker punch someone who is in the future, even when you go to the future. If a punch like that were to land, the space time continuum would rupture and the universe would explode.
This is actually a real thing... if you're in an argument with somebody and they glance away in a casual manner they are probably about to strike. Be ready for it.
According to the books, Klag ended up killing Kargan and taking his command when the captain showed cowardice in the face of the enemy during the Dominion War. Klag eventually ended up with his own Vorch'a class ship, IKS Gorkon, with Toq (the young Klingon Worf rescued from the Romulan prison planet in a later episode) as one of his junior officers.
Watching Riker and Klag become BFF's on the bridge, made me wonder how many bridge consoles get shorted out and damaged as Klingons practice "male bonding"??
now that is a good question lol
All of them.
@@TheEDFLegacy Of course. Anything less would be wimpy and incomplete.
Another observation: Klingon repair crews must be phenomenally skilled to repair them in so short of a time that it never seems to affect ship operations. :)
@@loka7783 I'm sure they use the Soviet approach to technology: Inferior, rugged, and nearly indestructable. 😉 Compared to the Federation, that uses the American approach: Advanced, delicate, and prone to failure every few episodes/hours. 😅
This was a great, underrated episode!
“You may live long enough to learn about us!”
I love it!
Another dick saying something is underrated. Why exactly do you think it's underrated and by whom? They told you?
I dont recall them following up on their friendship, it would have made for good episodes.
Klingon Empire: A Burning House
it would have been awesome both of them on DS9..can you imagine the fun and chaos they would cause? and maybe steal the runabout and pick a fight with the dominion...
Klaag apparently ended up siding with the Duras sisters and became their navigator in ST Insurrection (or was it Generations?) Where he and the girls got Kirked
@@SantomPh It was Generations. He was the one that yelled "We are cloaking! Our shields are down!" right before the Enterprise blew them up with a torpedo, and subsequently was blown up.
@@CptChaos47 it would be sad to see Klaag end up fighting for the Duras faction but perhaps his captain was so pissed off with Riker he chose the side that opposed the Federation
Klag wouldn't serve on a Duras ship... That was just a random Klingon!
Yup, random Klingon for sure. Also had different makeup work.
Same actor, different Klingon.
Unless he was a spy? I know Klingons are generally NOT keen on spy craft, but there are exceptions, and I think someone in the Klingon high council might want to keep an eye on the family of Duras because of how treacherous they have been, especially if someone got wind of them getting a weapon that could bring the current empire regime to their knees.
That's Klag's brother, Klog. Excellent dancer.
@@Raguleader Does he wear wooden shoes?
Riker and Klag would have been good wingmates on the hunt for intergalactic punani. Should have been a spin off series.
To boldly go where no man has gone before
Hunting for SnuSnu is an honorable occupation.
@@Biden_is_demented now just throw Kirk in there as some kind of grand master mentor of alien poon they follow the teachings of lol 😂 I would totally watch that and am not afraid to admit it
@@1IbramGaunt Have.. you ever... tried... too....talk seductively... like I do?
@@Biden_is_demented To die in the arms of a woman is to be awaited in Stoh-vo-kor
The fact Klag didn't pull his disruptor or dagger shows how much honor he has.
Klingon's can be violent, but most of them aren't stupid.
Klag would probably be executed by his Captain before the day is out for killing a Starfleet officer for no reason.
@@SolarArmadillo Klag had the right to do what he did under Klingon law
@@niceguy60 eh, I’m not so sure about that.
Because Riker is, at the end of the day, a Federation citizen.
Riker was unarmed so Klag pulling out a weapon might have been viewed as dishonorable combat.
It was a fight for command, not fight to the death.
Riker knew Klingons better than they did. He gave them death in battle and thus honor.
This is true.
But It's with Lursa and B'ehtor. The two most dishonorable Klingons aside from their brother Duras. Klag deserved a better end.
@@TRoller927 says: *But It's with Lursa and B'ehtor. The two most dishonorable Klingons aside from their brother Duras. Klag deserved a better end.*
Then Klag shouldn't have joined Lursa and B'ehtor because as a result he deserved the end that he got.
According to Memory Beta, when, then, Cadet Riker took the Kobayashi Maru, he challenged the commander of the Klingon task force to EVA one-on-one combat, giving his crew time to repair the Kobayashi Maru. He died in the process, but both ships managed to escape the encounter.
So yeah, I think he's got a firm grip on Klingon culture.
@@BWEEOOP oh wow so we actually have someone who beat the Kobyashi Maru test without cheating
That is legit one of the best fight scenes in TNG, beautifully acted. Short and to the point.
Klaag is a serious bro. It's not often you see a Klingon check a fallen human for injuries like that.
The best Klingon bro was still Martok. Sisko, Ross and Martok were the men that ultimately brought the dominion to it's knees.
@@Kalenz1234 Leaving the romulans and cardassians and specifically Damar out is just cold.Without them all 3 of them would have died.
Ross I dont believe ever personally was on any ship that was fighting?
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants Ross took command during the final push to Cardassia. I don't know if he is shown taking part before.
Even so he was in command of the Federation fleet. He decided where to go and laid out the battle plan. Even Martok went on several operations or sent Klingon fleets according to Ross' suggestion without question. If a Klingon general trusts a human in military matters without question that human is doing something right.
@@Kalenz1234 And Martok gave great marital advice to Sisko and Worf.
Well, he'd come to like the guy.
Klag: We are decloaking!! Our shields are down!!
Riker: …Fire.
Klag: Well played, my friend.
(BOOM)
Actually, the line was "We ARE cloaking! Our shields are down!" A Klingon ship can only have shields up while the cloak is disabled. They will raise shields as the cloak is turning off. As the ship slowly fades into visibility, the shields are coming up.
I've always nursed a theory that the whole incident in this episode with the hull parasite was actually a test by the Klingons. They wanted to see how things would go, and were perhaps hoping that Riker would go so far in his duty as to destroy the Enterprise, and take his rightful place as a Captain in the Klingon Defense Force. Or, he would fail to honor their ways and would prove that exchanging officers was a bad idea. It was brilliant of him to think of an alternative though I do wonder what a Klingon Riker would be like. I bet he'd be glorious.
Fanon story where Riker is temporarily commissioned as captain on a warbird, and all the crew respect the absolute shit out of him as "Riker the Klingon" because his name is legend on Qonos
Commander Riker was a badass
Riker fighting on the klingon ship. Always gives me goose bumps. I LOVE THAT SCENE!!!
Riker and Picard were the same. Seeding allies and friends everywhere for future needs. Outstanding work
Friendship is magic, but torpedoes are explosive.
Klag appears in the Star Trek expanded universe, so to the authors, who had to go by canon, there was an understanding that the helmsman in Generations was not Klag.
Love how the destruction of this Klingon ship is the same one in Star Trek the undiscovered country.
Reusing shots is one way of making these films and movies more affordable. of course, the editors can do some color modification and recut them so they don't appear to be the same.
Definitely one of the more obvious examples of the time honored ‘Trek tradition of stock footage.
I'm pretty sure they use it in DS9 too
I actually thought that this was an example of how desperate the Duras sisters were. They couldn't get an up to date ship so they had to take an old one. Perhaps I read too much into it.
I like stuff like this, it shows the Klingon arnt malevolent but merely alien. Hence rikers laying the smack down is socially acceptable
Some of those female Klingons have primo racks. So yes, I'd take him up on that offer. :)
Really, that episode was more about him and Klag bonding. I would have loved a DS9 episode with Will guest-starring, during the Dominion War, trying to return the favor by borrowing the Defiant, Worf, and O'Brien for an hour of screen time, to rescue Klag from a Dominion prison camp or something.
Hmm.
When I now watch the two series back to back and this episode comes up, I often wonder what happened to Klag and the rest of the crew during the war with The Dominion.
Were all the Klingons we met in this episode killed? Probably so, and I find that kind of sad.
What I'd like to see is a story where Lwaxanna Troi was captured by The Dominion, perhaps it would have been discovered that she was replaced by a changling, and thus was being kept in a Dominion prison camp somewhere in the Alpha quadrant.
Anyway, a rescue expedition would then be sent out to find and rescue her, led by _Alexander Roeshenko_ !
Dianna Troi, and some other past character could be included, and they would all have to grow and adapt as soldiers and warriors to rescue her. (No Worf in this story).
At the end, Alexander would be killed, and Lwaxanna Troi would be one of the people who'd do the Klingon Death Scream. And, She would then _understand why_ Klingons do that; she would have become a little bit Klingon, herself.
That ending would show the kind of understanding of Alien mentalities that protagonists gain, in the best Star Trek stories.
@@TheNoiseySpectator Problem is, they did that near-exact story with the Ferengi Friends, led by the (sadly, late) Lieutenant Nog.
"Near-exact"? I don't think so.
The Root of that story would be the expansion on Alexander's character, and his friendship with Lwaxanna Tro, from his childhood, into his adulthood.
@@TheNoiseySpectator Just like they further expanded Nog's character and his relationship with his father and uncle, with Brunt providing comic relief?
I will give you that I would have preferred your story, instead of the hour of "Ferengi Funnies" that happened instead, but the episodes are still pretty much the same thing, have the same premise, and would have had similar outcomes, save that yours calls for the death of a semi-major character. It would have added more back story to Alexander, and I would really like to see how you'd justify Deanna's mom having a familial relationship with Alexander, given that he was initially sent back to Earth with Worf's parents, and migrated to Klingon space afterwards. I'm not knocking you for proposing the idea, understand, I would just like to see the reasoning.
Beware the old man in the land where men die young.
Ah but the helmsman on Lursa and B'Tor's ship has different forehead
ridges, so not the same Klingon.
Worf's forehead ridges changed after TNG Seasons 2 and 5. Just saying lol.
We do not discuss it with outsiders.
Aqutis78 They changed every year.
The Klingon aboard the Duras's Ship was portrayed by the same actor as Klag, but Klag is commander of his own ship by then. He does not die and is listed as "active" according to canon, which means he will only be changed to "died XXXX" once someone comes up with a canonical story that has him die sometime, which is approved of the StarTrek franchise owners. Until then, he does *not* die with the Duras Sisters.
@@z8ph0d haha
Riker is far more dangerous than most of his opponents realize, he's tough, smart, and knows several martial arts. Jonathan frakes played him brilliantly, and he obviously did that fight scene very well
Love how star trek pays attention to little details. Like at 3:24 when klag hits riker in the neck. Rikers whole head went forward because that's how strong klingons are.
I love how one of the Klingons, the very first one that asks Riker why he is not eating very much, just said Ha Ha to Klags joke, so he could get that it is a joke, and he should laugh.
I remember seeing this when it was new. The acting was superb. movie level action scene ya know, no boring chattering, really enjoyed it.
More than 20 years later and the reused Bird of Prey explosion STILL pisses me off.
Special effects must not have been affordable..
SGTBizarro, came here to write the same thing. At least they flipped the footage to try and hide it.
It was still pre CGI then, took many years until later part of DS9 to get some parts and then eventually full CGI.
Me too
If you have one good explosion and don’t HAVE to do another one…
Everything about this ep felt like TOS and it was amazing.
Of course this really would have been awkward if Riker lost.
He had the power of the beard, there's no way possible way he would have lost.
+Leo Peridot Considering the Federation's long history of war with the Klingons, I think it's more likely that every member of Starfleet receives specific training in fighting Klingons hand-to-hand. You see Riker use a leverage throw here, which supports this. If Starfleet knows crews will likely end up fighting trained warriors which are physically stronger and more durable than humans, they'll use Judo and Aikido techniques for using an opponent's strength against them.
+Leo Peridot You don't need to be Bruce Lee to learn practical techniques for defeating larger and stronger opponents. Women's self-defence courses do that pretty quickly and easily, teaching women to go for the eyes, the top of the feet, the groin, and so on. I would guess that techniques for handling Klingons work the same way. You see Riker here getting in a sucker punch, for instance, and that could very well be part of the training -- and why Starfleet members seem to be so good at taking on Klingons. On the other hand, they tend to get their asses handed to them by Vulcans.
Funny comment! I actually laughed, thanks!
@@NoJusticeNoPeace and pocket sand.
Same actor played the villain on the 1986 Stallone movie Cobra. Amazing actor.
Brian Thompson got around in the 80's and 90's.
@@patrickstivers7387 Yup. He also played "Buffalo Bob" in the first Joe Dirt movie ;)
And Shao Khan in MK: Annihilation.
He also played in 1984 Terminator. He was one of the punks that got his heart ripped out by a naked Arnold.
Klag is a great foil to Riker! I may be a vegetarian, but Riker's willingness to eat foods I would find utterly detestable is something I envy!
Yeah same actor but the ridges don't lie: different Klingon.
*looks at TOS Klingons and the bullshit they said afterwards to make the new makeup work* okay pal, nik mahk untull
Oh like how worfs ridges changed
klag is endearing, especially that understated, infectious giggle of his
If you follow the books, Klag lives, and rises to the rank of General, and has his own ship
I have most of that series of novels.
Yes, he killed his captain for being a coward thus gaining rank.
I just hope that the console Riker threw him into wasn't vital to the ship.
Lol I was thinking the same thing... looks like there was some serious damage done to that equipment.
Riker's first order to Klag would be to repair the console. :D
2:56 - love the “oh no he didn’t reaction” they all give!
I'm always amazed at how much flame there is in explosions in space....
They're clearly in a pocket of oxygen.
I laugh every time I see the dinner scene. 🤣
generations was probably the only Trek film to give the feel of the real mass of ships and how their weapons felt more like cannons and huge emitters than in the shows.
Also that photon torpedo at 5:05 is probably the most satisfying sound in all of trek :P
That's one menacing sounding torpedo!
One of the best....Thank you for posting.
This brought to mind a whole idea of a Picard era Riker & Klagg meeting. Really an interesting thought. And oh, so entertaining. 😈
Dying in battle is the way to go for any Klingon
How many times has that shot of the bird of prey exploding been reused within various ST series and movies? At least three that I can count 😊
Stock footage lol
Klag played by Brian Thompson an actor, who have played other Star Trek Characters ☺️
No matter what role I see him in, I always think of his role in Cobra
@@raygowan1968 I remember him as the guy that Arnie killed in the first Terminator and the informant in the Alien Nation movie.
@@patrickstivers7387 Let's not forget he played Shao Kahn in Mortal Kombat Annihilation.
@@Tempo851 He also played the Alien Bounty Hunter in X Files.
@@raygowan1968 He played two characters on Buffy the Vampire Slayer which were memorable performances.
This is one of my favorite episodes. One of many from Star Trek TNG.
The Klingon vessel had about 10 seconds to take evasive action, but instead all stared dumbfoundedly at the screen.
The Enterprise triggered the cloak on the Bird of Prey as it fired an aft torpedo at its current location before the cloak, but I guess the writers felt they would make it so that they thought it might miss, even though they didn't move at all lolz
I wish Klag had showed up in future episodes. I would have liked to have seen him team up with Riker and Worf.
Brian Thompson also played in the movie, "The Kindred: The Embraced". That was the first time I heard of him.
I liked that show. And had to endure a serious VTM friends bitching about it, which i didn't know. RIP Mark Frankel.
Of course he’s credited as Klingon helmsman, Klag wouldn’t betray Riker nor work for the shit Duras.
Klag looks like the alien bounty hunter from X-Files.
The cinematics in the films was astounding.
The Captain here reminds of a predator in his mannerisms lol Great scenes!
That's Chris Latta. Voice of Starscream and Cobra Commander
That was the same actor but a different klingon. You can tell by the forehead ridges.
Isn't that the same explosion clip of the Bird of Prey from the Khitomer Accord attack on the Enterprise, and Cpt. Sulu's ship? "Target that explosion and, Fire!"
Yes, that explosion is also in DS9.
Every chance I get of seating myself the Riker way I take with pleasure.
Throwing your opponent into the exploding consoles is always a sound strategy
I think the whole bit of Lursa & Beytor using the modulation frequency to get through the Enterprise-D's shields a "very" convenient loophole... especially since the Borg encounters the shields were designed to rotate frequencies to prevent that exact thing from happening.
Was that something that happened regularly or was it only done when facing the Borg as that's when it was really needed? Other times the shields could just operate in one frequency.
@@ivaneames4354 I believe it was added to standard operation after the Borg encounter.
The Klingon female with the teeth - from what I can find out - this is the highlight of this actress’ career.
"They have found a way to penetrate our shields!"
Thank for that report, Captain Obvious.
you mean Lieutenant Obvious :)
This was one of my favorite episodes.
@4:10, why in the hell is some one playing tetris ?
This could just be my head-canon (or I could have read it somewhere. There's a LOT of material out there), but I think this is the incident that caused Star Fleet to start using rotating shield modulations (very similar in concept to the Frequency-hopping Spread-Spectrum first used in military radios and later carried over to cellular transmitters) which turned out to be vital to defense in the Dominion War.
No, it's Canon. A Klingon engineer of all beings actually did it by accident and it just stuck. So they told the highers ups, who told Starfleet; and the rest is history...
I believe it became standard protocol upon first contact with the Borg, as well as using a modulating frequency on the phaser arrays.
Even beneath the makeup, I could immediately tell it was the Night Slasher from Cobra.
Brian Thompson
He also played a Gamma Quandrant alien in DS9, negotiating with Quark over Tula berry wine.
I remember the knife he carried in the movie had spikes in the hand guard.
Captain Kargan, otherwise known as Cobra Commander, Starscream and Darkstorm.
Of course, I am an Enterprise fan, but referring to the second video, even after the Enterprise was able to dismantle the Klingon ship's shield and cause the cloak to begin, unless I missed something, the Klingons still had time to hit warp and get out of there unless the simply panicked?
The Klingon cloak disrupts all other essential systems while it is activating.
Even with that said, unless the Enterprise did something that permanently kept the cloak on, they still had time to turn it off and get out of there.
Of course, time is essential, but I have been in situations while driving and avoided accidents and only had a few seconds to assess the situation and take action. The key is to keep your head. Of course, no one is perfect, but the military trained is to do that.
Why wasn't there a command, "Warp, immediately."?
IS there something you wanted to say to me Lt. Klag .. Yes Mortal Kombat
TEST YOUR MIGHT!
"I have rights, don't I, PIG"
You really left out the “one or both” line?
If that was Lt. Klag, then Riker gave his friend the best gift a Klingon could get. An honorable death in the field of battle.
At least, thank to Riker, Klag died in the glory of battle... differently from his old man... There is somewhat of the ultimate klingonized act of friendship in this...
Supposedly it's not Klag. Just the same actor. Apparently in some books, he kills the captain of that episode due to cowardice and takes command, and does well.
One of the top 10 episodes in TNG in my view.
Riker's thinking "Don't threaten me with a good time." 2:50
Riker is Be'Lanna's father.
so did the universal translator not work @ 00:42?
Riker was wearing a com badge, it has a universal translator which automatically translates all verbal communications, it would have done so without prompting as soon as it picked up the Klingon's talking.
Looks like someone left their explodium in the console again.
This was a one of the best episodes in the series. However, I think they should have made one or two more in sequence following the ships mission, where Riker and Klag are fighting a Klingon adversary not known to the Federation.
There was definitely good material there to turn into a couple more episodes. Like others said, and I concur with, he would of been great to have been on other TNG episodes involving Riker, and DS9 with the Klingons vs the Dominion.
Was the actor that played the Captain also one that played a pakled
What Riker meant to say before firing that final torpedo is "this is what happens when you challenge my authority, Klag" Fire!
That is clearly not Klag in generations. He is a Klingon with honour not a Duras.
Riker, gave his friend Klag, a great gift, that of an honorable death. a true friend, no a brother warrior, I say.
Klag's actor would later turn up in ST Generations as a member of Lursa and B'etor's crew. He was the one who says "Mistress, a Federation starship is entering the system" when Enterprise arrives at the Viridian system
But not the same character apparently.
I refuse to believe Lt. Klag would fire on the Enterprise, especially knowing Riker is aboard! Klingons are passionate AND LOYAL! I refuse to believe we will not see Riker and Klag together again!
Riker pledged his loyalty to his crewman. He will join Klag in Sto' Vo Kor.
Good shit right here LmMFaol that double ax handle across his mid section lol
Not the same guy in generations. In both alpha and beta cannon he goes on to bigger and better things.
I wonder why CBS stopped using subtitles until Star Trek: Enterprise?
Holy crap they dug deep there... 20 years or so later and I only JUST found out about Klag :O
Read the "IKS Gorkon" series by Keith DiCandido. They're great.
5:26 That's the same exploding ship that killed Commander Chang (Christopher Plummer) and his renegade Klingon crew in STAR TREK VI: THE UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY (1991), the last Trek film to star the entire TOS crew.
Special effects must have been expensive... Do you know the office of the President of the Federation at Federation HQ on earth in the same film is actually the set for Ten Forward that had been dressed to look like an office?
At 3:30 why does the Klingon caption hit Riker and tells his crew to Riker off his ship???
The Capt was going to attack the Enterprise so Riker handed him a transporter homing beacon and was transported to the Enterprise when they thought they were beaming Riker back. Riker took command of Klingon ship and it pissed the Capt off.
@@TTUGrad2010 thank you sir.
@@TTUGrad2010 Doesn't he tell Picard to "surrender"?
When Riker tricks the Klingon Captain and he get transported to the Enterprise, Riker plays the role of the Klingon Captain in asking Picard to surrender. He did so to make fun of or to embarrass the Klingon Captain.
@@TTUGrad2010 Big picture answer?
This was demonstrating how Klingons are psychologically different from humans, and how Riker had come to understand them well enough that he could utilize their moores to interact as one of them.
I though he took a big chance on getting stabbed in the heart! = (
Beating the crap out of each other after not liking each other and then becoming bff's is such a guy thing apparently even across species.
I would've starved aboard a Klingon ship. The other rules, & traditions I could deal with, but the food is always a deal breaker for me.
Would have been a great time to quote Gen Chang, “to be or not to be” since the Duras sisters were in Chang’s explosion.
Same actor, but they're not the same characters.
According to Memory Alpha: _Klag was played by recurring Star Trek actor Brian Thompson in his first appearance in the franchise. He would later portray an unnamed Klingon helm officer serving aboard the ill-fated Duras sisters' Bird-of-Prey in Star Trek Generations._
Instead of staring at their incoming doom, the sisters could have screamed "DECLOAK!"