Have McLaren Finally Fixed Their Issues?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.พ. 2021
- Over the last 12-18 months, I've been increasingly negative about McLaren road cars... so much so that Tony and I actually recorded a special episode of our podcast talking about all the issues we've experienced with McLarens. However, I feel like it's time to give the brand a second chance and spending 4 days with a 2021 720S Spider felt like a great place to start.
A lot of my frustrations over the past few years have come from the apparent lack of build quality of McLaren cars. My own 540C and many other McLaren cars I've driven have been plagued with electronic and mechanical problems that feel like could have been easily rectified.
So why give them a second chance? Since our McLaren special podcast came out, a number of McLaren owners got in touch saying they were fed up with all the negativity online about the cars and they wanted to let me know they were having great experiences with their own McLarens. On top of that, McLaren themselves got in touch and said they had been working hard to rectify some of the issues I had mentioned and so wanted to get me back in some cars to see if I could notice and appreciate the changes.
Here is the special episode of our podcast, Behind The Glass:
• The Truth About Our Is...
Some other McLaren videos I've filmed over the years:
I Bought A McLaren 540C - • I Bought A McLaren 540C!
Why I Didn't Fall In Love With The McLaren 720S - • Why I Didn't Fall In L...
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I hope McLaren do give you a long term loan, because four days in Winter with lockdown restrictions is not a very good test. I'd love to see you go to the GP in Italy or somewhere and take the car, see if the quality can last - and I hope it can.
I appreciate all the respect and good vibes that British car TH-camrs give each other- not so much over here in the USA with our car TH-camrs...
@@peterb3842 JayEmm is a class act, unlike his shirts.
@@akhoucharmouta whoooooaaaaaaa there, the shirts are the second best part about his videos!
@@ChrissyThePoo hey I didn't claim otherwise, I just meant one can't call them classy ahahahaha
I hope McLaren give YOU a long termer JayEmm! I did watch this and think of you!
I believe you have the best videography out of them all, can actually see the effort put into your videos.
Thank you!!
Petrolicious has good cinematography too
You must admit its a cut above the crowd. Keep it up Sam!
Agreed. Sets the standard in my opinion. One day, I hope mine get to this level.
facts - the best out of any of the UK youtubers
As a former owner, I have found that McLarens are great when I don't own it.
Ha, I know what you mean but maybe there is hope
Oh dear.
@@richardsedorski1206 Yes, you hit the nail on the head, hypothetically losing that much money is so different from really losing it. I love driving friends that still hang in there, I'm just not that rich.
@@marinefarmer7494 Quick question and not throwing any shade at anyone, but why is it just Mclaren that seem to have the depreciation card thrown about when Ferrari are equally as bad? 812's have lost £125k + in 1500 miles but nobody seems to care.
@@affsta3665 812's lost a lot of cash because when there's loads on the market they've pretty much got no one to buy them, same thing happened with the F12 and they end up going back up in value after a while of being on the market because they become more affordable rather than having one new.
That spec is insane. Also you were much more succinct in explaining the issues and giving clear examples compared to the podcast I feel. Glad the brand are paying attention
I appreciate that!
My 720s currently has started off 2021 strong with 1 blown turbo, 1 broken secondary air valve, a brake pad wear sensor having a seizure, only has locked me in my own car once so far, a front truck that doesn’t open, a jammed windshield washer squirter, a check engine light, an engine that stalls when you rev it, an engine control module failure, and a bad parking brake. I wish i was joking, but all of the above happened this year, and it’s already been a month! I’m proud of my lil girl. Seems to be happening to everyone that daily drives their Mclaren.
Wow it really pains me deeply to read testimonials like this. I really hope they fix it all for you and spring time brings you miles and miles of joy in the car.
That‘s not great to read at all. Have you modded your car? Just had a quick look at your channel. If yes, this will obvs affected your car in one way or another. All the best
@@75KoDe My guess for his mods are at a minimum an exhaust and a remap. Alex does some great content.
Yikes
First 2 videos on your channel speak volumes about the issues you've had, what did you expect?
Fair play to McLaren, seems like they are finally admitting their faults and endeavouring to right the wrongs, I think that alone should deserve a second chance. Top quality content as always Sam
Thanks! Really appreciate it
I hope they also treat their customers better as well, every owner I know had a wretched experience.
@@bravofighter I have had nothing but great service from the two dealers I have had experience with in Australia
I don’t think it is “finally”. I’m pretty sure they are working on it from day #1. But it is not easy to fix all the issues, it is a complex engineering challenge, which takes years to resolve all.
@@juzoli Not from what I saw in the past on Glassdoor. Hints of an internal culture not entirely consistent with that.
And what is a complex challenge, production at scale do you mean? Perhaps they should have taken a leaf out of Porsche's book, maybe the Shin-Gijutsu group are still around: www.nytimes.com/1996/01/20/business/putting-porsche-in-the-pink.html
Been loving the music selection in the recent videos, good job Sam!
Don't need the music in my opinion. Just listen to the engine note.
@@BenB91 I agree....music was obnoxious
@@BenB91 Yes, obviously.. But the video isn't just the engine running...
Smiler at Alton Towers cones to mind
@@donjuan150don't worry. One day you will grow up and realize that the whole video wasn't just the engine running. Nor does only wanting engine noise make u more of a hardcore car guy.
Props to McLaren for confronting the issue rather than running away from it or banning you or not talking to you, makes me respect them much more.
Another quality video mate, great to see McLaren have addressed many build quality issues, just need to sort out much of it's dealer network now and we could start to see the rise of McLaren again... 👌
Nice to see you around here Joe ;)
Joe creeping in all the car guy’s videos for some ‘inspiration’.
Although they do have there problems, I'm sure McLaren are working hard to improve them because, it shouldn't just be Italy that make great supercars. It's incredibly important and kinda makes UK petrolheads proud to see a British supercar manufacturer that can rival the likes of Lambo and Ferrari. Hopefully one day soon a McLaren can return to the STG garage...
Hopefully
Well I’m Italian and although I love our cars I have so much respect for British brands such as McLarens and Astons. In the end making great models as well as less good ones is normal for every car company. I do appreciate the improvement you had with the 720s and now with 765lt, can’t wait to see it vs some of our prancing horses. It will be fun. Peace!👌🏻
It’s not just the build quality and reliability. When things do go wrong the customer service is insultingly awful
Yeah some dealers are good and some are horrible. They need to fix it
i saw a mclaren speedtail stopped at a petrol station with electrical problems, he called mclaren customer care and they sent him a aa van. i couldnt believe it. he spends 2 million on a car and they dont even come to help with the problems
@@Dhhcnkk I mean you don't need to own one to know how overrated they can be. Plus McLaren fanboys are so toxic I just step away from liking McLarens.
@@moosebear6372 that’s exactly why I ignore fanbases around cars, because they can single handedly make you hate a car. I knew a guy that sold his Charger, because the Mopar community was so damn toxic, and he wanted absolutely nothing to do with it
@@PeRRXX I be honest with you I don't hate the cars I don't. McLaren makes some of the most beautiful cars. The issue is you can't get away from McLaren fanboys in the community even when your out of the community. When you talk about like two completely different supercars they come find you and say stupid stuff like "McLaren can beat that" "McLaren beats everything" and if you disagree McLaren fanboys get triggured and throw a childish fit and they turn into a total buzzkill. I know McLarens are fast but there not god tier cars they are treated as. Every Car company has its unique gem.
Good to see some balance from a TH-camr, rather than attempting to monetise click bait 👍🏽
As you asked, I’ve owned a 720S for 2.5 years from new, with zero problems, glitches, warning lights etc. Only problem was a broken windscreen. Absolutely nothing else. It’s in fact the most reliable car I’ve ever owned, and McLaren customer service from both the factory and dealer have been exceptional. Love it, and love the brand.
Thanks for the info! Appreciate you tuning in
Same here 570GT currently running a 600LT Spider 11:000 miles zero issues, just loved both cars , but the 600 LT is in a different league tbh as a pure drivers car 👍
Same here, 2011 Subaru outback for 3 years from used with zero issues....oh shit, wrong car
@@kijanilong2395 😂
How did you manage the no problems part
Big up Sam, honestly enjoying your videos and the variety more and more. Great editing in this one!
Thanks a ton!
Sam, the things you do with a few go pros is epic! That Carfection worthy intro was amazing! Keep up the creative work.
Loving the regular podcasts too!
Agree with others about the top drawer editing. That transition from the rear into the cabin at the beginning was superb. Keep up the good work.
I always enjoy your videos but the editing on this one was next level 👌Always good to see a brand try to better themselves and although they have had issues I think they have always had some of the best paint colours. Particularly the bright ones.
The editing on your videos is always amazing but this video was just on another level. Well done
Great video Sam! Happy to see you appreciating McLarens again. Also loving your production value lately, keep it up!
Great review Sam thank you. I was wondering when someone was going to give McLaren another updated review to see if they have ironed out some of the many issues they have. Maybe now other you tubers will follow your lead. Great content
Best car TH-camr atm. The podcasts with Tony are wicked and the variety on the car content on another level. Sam keep it going. Proper car enthusiast.
Ps. Your head must of been cold during that drive 🤔
Much appreciated
100 percent true, Sam is one of the few people that shows real emotion. And top notch editing...
I watch The behind the glass and car throttle podcasts almost religiously
Loved the format of this video Sam, living with a certain car over a few days type of thing. Would love to see it on the channel again. All the best from Ireland! Looking forward to the podcast on Thursday now, big fan of that also 👌
It’s going to take some time and effort for them to get their reputation back, two years ago I nearly sold my 360 to purchase a 540C... thank God I didn’t.
Another amazing video Sam 👌🏼 next level editing I hope this Chanel blows up one day you deserve it
I’ve always wanted to love McLaren as much as I do Aston Martin but alllllllll of the well documented issues with them over the years has really made that hard, exciting to see they’re doing something about the big quality control issues and owning their mistakes 🙌🏻
yeah well it may take a while because it’s not very easy to fix
you can’t fix things in two seconds so... there’s probably gonna be a lot more hate thrown at McLaren before they can get stuff together
Great video! Best automotive creator, getting better and better. Well done sir!
Saw that edit on your IG as well, looked great!
Appreciate it!
As always, amazing edit ! Keep it up with the nice work Sam !!!
Favourite TH-cam at the min & I follow all the obvious ones. Where as I feel a few have really lost energy you are gaining. Good work captain!
B Roll and your videography levels are so good!!
The editing quality of your videos is so far ahead of any other TH-camr it’s insane.
Sam is great. The best car youtuber out there, period. Everything from the editing, music, info, and content is spot on. You could see and feel the passion which he creates these videos with. Also the podcast is great. It’s the only podcast I listen to, and it is the first and only one that really got me into podcasts. Also, Toni is funny as hell. Great combo!!
Well done Sam, and thanks for saving my booring free time. Cheers
Woah Sam, I don’t usually comment but the editing of this is new and fresh and top notch. I love it, great job 👍
Not sure about the beard though 😁
Thanks! A lot of effort went into this one
@@seenthroughglass thanks for the reply, feel bad about mocking your beard now 😅
@@DannyJ1999 Beard?
Might want to try a lavalier mic for in car audio.
Wow wow wow, that edit in the HQ was simply amazing, i wonder how don´t you have any more engament, keep it up, been here since the 4C days haven´t seen anyone like you!
Smashed the editing on this one! Always loved the 720s, still looks like a spaceship of the future
Loved the video Sam, every time i come to your channel your videos never disappoint!
My god Sam your video editing is always far and above most of the others car youtubes. Outstanding job! 👏🏻
Nice to see a positive spin on McLaren for once , and excellent production and music choice as always Sam . Excellent vid all round !
Good to see some positive vibes on this brand - after all its British and we all want them to be great !
Great re-review and top notch editing!
Great video here Sam, the videography is top notch and really engaging. Couple that with the interesting and often controversial topic and the style of editing and music makes for a great afternoon's watch
The music, the edit😍 Great videos and edits recently Sam 😊
Loving the improvements in editing/cinematography Sam!!! Top work bud
Thanks a ton!
Insane editing in this one Sam! Really enjoyed it, great Sunday watching
Always a joy when you upload your car content and views... 🤓🚙
Absolutely love this video. You should have that car for 6 months and truly see if they have upped their anti. Also see what their customer service is like and see if that’s improved
One of your best 'lockdown' videos Sam. Many congratulations for making immersive content amongst so many restrictions.
Nice to see so much effort still going into your videos Sam, great work :)
Been loving the recent uploads, keep it up Sam!
More to come!
Been waiting for this one since the podcast!
Love the video, the cinematography is amazing. Excellent work
Editing & sound mix is right on point. The opening monologue was the biz.. Greetings from the land of Woop-ass Wednesday...
Hi Sam, thanks for the more positive video here. I don't work directly for mclaren, but I work for a service provider in the aftersales section and I must say everyone within mclaren works very hard and tirelessly to resolve any issues that we may encounter. They are a company in their adolescents and are constantly learning and improving from feedback all the time The negative videos can be heart breaking to watch knowing how much effort everyone as a collective team puts in. Thanks so much and we hope you will continue to keep the faith
Finally 4K, that’s what your content deserves, Sam. Big thumbs up!
A lovely video Sam! I'm firmly a McLaren fan, but even I'll admit 'didn't break in four days' is a very low bar to clear for a car that costs this much. Hopefully they're back on the right track and can keep producing the cars we know they can.
Great video. Would be good to see a video on the videography equipment/techniques you use!
To gain back consumer confidence I think Mclaren need to adopt a long term (5-7 year) warranty/service package to come with every car. Mclaren dealers are in part to blame for the negativity around the brand too (in the UK) but that's a separate issue... Want them back on top of F1 and automotive! Great video (and edit!) Sam
OOOOOMG that edit of the car on the garage, you keep improving your videos, well done !
+ that’s the thing i like with you Sam, you don’t stay put on your opinions, you go and try, bringing us along to understand how brands evolve whether it is for the best, or for the worst...
A very well balanced review, Sam, and a great video. Unlikely as I am to ever own a McLaren (although I hope to) I do think they are under good management and that management has listened to all the concerns and done something about it.
Great video Sam. I’ve had my 12c for almost 2 years now with trips to Germany, Belgium and Scotland from my home in the midlands. It has never missed a beat. I know their are some cars out their with issues but I can’t help but think a lot of it has become social media hype. Other manufacturers have issues as well.
Great video as always Sam, love the content 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Notable step up in the filming and editing. Particularly the driving footage and the transition between camera angles. 👏👏
Great video. Editing etc is on point recently
Thanks for your efforts Sam...Cheers from Granby, Colorado
Excellent and quality video, excellent music, bravo maestro sam..you deserve so much more..thank you for all,you and tony make me smile..thank you..
That baby blue-ish 812 you and Shmee both ran after to film on your way when you went to Monaco in P14 OOV is still one of the best spec cars, let alone 812's specifically, I've ever seen. Instantly a favourite of mine.
Love the B roll of the car. Amazing footage and car. Nice work
Sick video sam! production quality just seems to go up every single video. Just a little note: put the little thumbs up test in either of the bottom corners, it looks a bit better there
The car looks awesome and the editing/filming in the garage was brilliant!!
Great video once again Sam! I personally really like McLarens. I haven’t owned one, but I’ve basically decided that if I wanted to get one(675LT/600LT), by a used one that’s already had its crazy depreciation and pray it works haha. I’ve talked to people who haven’t had any issues and people who have had issues like with most things, it depends.
Great video! Production quality was superb!
You've struck a good balance here Sam. Supportive yet challenging the brand to do more! A truly great British sports car manufacturer.
your editing is sublime awsome video as usual
I love that your orange beanie finally matches the car 😅
That’s so weird... I subscribed years ago but it showed today I wasn’t subscribed so I did subscribe again. Great videos by the way Sam!
We all have been waiting for this review!
Love your intro!!
I’ve been loving your videos for a long time now and there just getting better and better. It takes time for every company to improve I hope Maclaren is coming around.
One of your best vids in a while. Keep up the good work
I fell in love with the 720s recently.
Good points, presented in a fun and thought-provoking way, thank you STG ✌
When I saw your video I thought it would be bashing McLaren, but was pleasantly surprised. I had a 570 spider for two years and loved the car so much I traded for a 720 spider. There are some electrical anomalies that eventually become somewhat endearing, but they have never let me down. My experience has been so good that I'll never have another Porsche or Ferrari. Thanks for a nice evaluation.
Like it, Sam. The most important thing is you’re not just fanboy-reacting! All so easy to do when the press team throws you the keys to the 720s! As you say, will be good to see how your experience goes through this year, and then make a conclusion. Well done. Esp. for matching the car to the hat!
Those dinosaurs at 11:17 are very close to where I live - was a big surprise seeing them in an STG video 😂 hope you enjoyed those roads Sam, that section of tarmac is so good!!
You had so much fun editing this video! And it shows
The editing is top notch !
Another great video! I'm hopeful too. McLaren is a brand I love... I was too nervous about their reliability so got my R8GT instead. Ironically, that broke down 🤦♂️ This video is a good first step to rebuilding my confidence in the McLaren brand too. Thanks Sam 👍
Great video Sam!! I have been looking forward to this video since you mentioned it on the podcast. Hopefully McLaren has their act together now. I think it was bold of them to offer you a car in hopes of turning your opinion around. Proof you are a valued member of the automotive community.
Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it
Anyone else spotted that Sam has perfectly colour co-ordinated his clothing to the orange car! Makes my OCD smile 😃 once again great video, unreal editing! Keep bringing unreal content out as well as unmissable podcasts!
Always a great honest review👍 it looks great!
Thank you! Cheers!
Honest review instead of JWW; everything is great..
I have had a 570GT for almost 5 years. Bought it new and have had ZERO issues. Regular oil changes and service. Not one issue. About 8000 miles on it
Great clip Sam. So the question is, would you have it over the F8 Spider you drove a few weeks back?
Alllllrighhhttyyyyy then. Great Videos Sam! Love the cinematics and the curated music.
Hello, I’m an owner of a 570S spider as of November 2020. Love love love, the car. I’ve done almost 3500 miles in it and have had zero issues apart from my center console locking up on me, but that was a simple fix. I think the key is to daily drive them, and let them get properly warmed up before setting off and you won’t have any problems *knock on wood*
One of the few times your beanie works with the spec of a car haha. Great video as always!
Great video Sam!! Great to see the McLaren are trying to fix their issues as I think they are a great British Brand!
Same here! Thanks for tuning in
I've been following you for a while, and you're really getting comfortable with presenting to camera. Video flows nicely, and there's just enough info to keep interest, and inform without overwhelming. (Excuse the critique - I'm from a film & video background!). I too had lost faith with McLaren - although I'll doubt I'll ever afford to be an owner - so I completely get where you're coming from. Even though it feels great, you're still nervous reaching for the start button! I totally get it! Hopefully, this is the beginning of a new era with the brand, and their quality control steps up massively. For a £quarter million, it had better.
Thank you Sam. Been waiting for this video for days! Can’t wait-
Good afternoon Sam! Keep up the great content. Been looking forward to this one since the mention in BTG. Funnily enough you pick up meat in my area.
Nicely balanced review. Would like to see more of that artwork.
Since the days of the 12C (which I remember seeing in prototype camouflage form in Send one day), I have admired McLaren's ability to evolve their products so rapidly. I hope they are now rapidly improving their quality control. I love the brand.
Editing game on point in this one mate!