McLaren 720S Spider 2021 review. They're getting to be great value but this or the Ferrari F8?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 เม.ย. 2021
- McLaren introduced the 720S in 2017 and they can now be bought for half the price they cost new secondhand. In this video I look at why they depreciated so quickly, how they drive and why I think they are now looking like very good value.
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Watching Harry Metcalf trying to convince the world he's sticking to the speed limit is worth a thumbs up.
and the Doug score izz??
@@saidalas7763 guess Doug don't love MC, and he's right.
Better that than him getting some self righteous plod or legal type trying to go for him.
Definitely 60 mph... Yeah right 😂😂😂
Well, he doesn't have the "Mexico" option!
No stupid grinning. No tyre smoke. No drag races. No nonsense.
Perfect.
I enjoy multiple car shows. You can get no nonsense car love from Harry, some down to the ground chats about cars from some smaller youtubers like Tedward, some jokes and grinning and drag races, but also good info from Carwow, and then absolute topgear level idiotic entertainment from Carthrottle.
cam: what a moaning ****
I get where you're coming from
But what do you have against smiling?
Got to say, if McLaren calls you and offers you a 765Lt and you get to tell them, "no no, actually I quite fancy a go in the base model 720S", you have a very awesome job. Well done indeed sir.
I loved when he said this. Any other youtuner would go for the 765lt. You can tell this guy is genuine and not just acting for the cameras
personally i would have preferred to drive the 765lt spider as it is one of my favourite cars but still think that this is an amazing car
As opposed to slightly awesome?!
Love the fact that Harry didn't take the 765lt for review as it didn't suit what he wanted to review. King.
Love the fact that Harry moves his legs to walk. King.
Harry has always had an air of authenticity which makes him one of the best reviewers.
I've bought entire perfectly good cars for less than the option cost of the orange seat stitching.
I've even bought a decent car for less than the orange seat belts.
But did they have orange stitching?
The whole options package is about the same cost as my flat.
To add to this.... I laughed that it was £1950 for the orange paint. Does anyone know if their are no cost option colours or do they just hand you a car in grey primer??? 😂
It's almost as if these cars made for customers who have so much money that paying a few extra grand for stitching isn't a big deal. I'm very envious of those people.
"And we're doing... erm...erm...60, yeah 60". 🤣
That makes you squeeze your eyes laughing?
@@johnsmith1474 Yep
He hasn't got Clarkson's editing team to doctor the speedo :-)
@@johnsmith1474 boomer
"...yeah, 60...that's the ticket!" -- Tommy Flanagan
As an owner of a 720S Spider I do love Harry's spot on comments. This is an amazing car that's really a "Jekyll and Hyde" sort of car.
Damn, that's so cool, I hope I can get one someday
Well done. ONLY McLaren is a British car which DOESN'T live in the past! All the rest do.
Nothing wrong with heritage. It's nice to see brands that hark back to their roots and other brands which want to try something different, even better if you get a bit of both.
Have you had any problems with it?
Perfect timing. I was car shopping and was stuck between the McLaren and a Civic Si. 👍
Get the Civic it will be much more reliable :-)
@@jm252 reliability? Who give af about reliability😂 screw it just get the McLaren.
What did you go for in the end?
@@solsol1624 A Honda Del Sol 😉
The Civic - it's reliable, you can use it for real world things like shopping and taking the family out, you can park it, see out of it, it won't attract cops, boy racers and spotty male virgins with cameras and it's probably a lot faster in real roads with sleeping policemen, potholes and pinch points. Oh and you won't have to become a high class rent boy to buy and maintain the thing.
Was on track behind one earlier this week. Came out of a hairpin behind it and I’ve never been left by a car as quickly as by a 720S. Mad.
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 McLaren encourage track use. The warranty just requires a pre and post check at McLaren. Bet that's not cheap though
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 the only time you enjoy a McLaren is when you sell it
@@dragospahontu tell me more about your McLaren experience? Which one did you own?
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 bought my 650 Spider nearly 6 years ago at $219k. Current value $170k. So just over 20% in 6 years. The 911 that I had before the McLaren lost that in 2 years. Recommend you read "Competitive Strategy" by Prof Michael Porter to understand the path that McLaren have been on. The F8 is more a competitor for a McLaren 600 imo; the 720 is at least one step up, without even getting into the antique chassis/suspension and (personal opinion about) styling of the Ferrari. For those of us that actually drive these things, there's a great review in Car & Driver September 2019 as to why I'd ONLY buy a McLaren. In that incident, the car flow nearly 300 feet down a cliff and both passengers were uninjured: a floppy Ferrari with its pasta chassis would have folded after the first impact.
@@rodwilliams7763 what would be your favorite McLaren to have.?
I think the 675 LT is the one I'd like to drive.
"We're doing um, sixty, sixty, and, yes we're definitely doing sixty." :D
60ish !
Didn't seem or sound like a sixty...
@@huss1205 ..close to double methinks...120+ !!
When Ayrton Senna asks Rainman for a situation report.
No competition between this and the F8 in terms of driving dynamics. I had a 488 Spider before 720S Spider and the Mclaren is superior in terms of steering feel, ride, body rigidity, transmission, and in another galaxy as far as speed! The 488 was very disappointing in terms of how much flex it had in the chassis..... it’s honestly no better than other convertibles that cost 1/4 of its price and the steering has no feel compared to the Mclaren. I won’t go down the rabbit hole of discussing reliablity (mine has been pretty much perfect) or resale value that everyone immediately wants to bring up in any Mclaren review, but as far as just engineering and driving experience I don’t know how anyone could claim the Ferrari even holds a candle to the 720S.
Thanks for comment. I know several friends who have had spider versions of 458 and 488 and all have commented on the same thing, scuttle shake, yet journos never mention it, which is odd. 720S is one hell of a machine; enjoy!
@@harrysgarage thanks Harry! I’ve always been surprised that there wasn’t more of a mention of it too in most reviews. Love your reviews, keep up the great work!
So has the 720s of yours had any problems, I do hear a lot about mclaren build quality and safety issues is that a problem you have experienced
@@skitz0299 the car has been fantastically reliable with virtually no issues whatsoever 👍🏻
Enjoyed your comment very interesting 👍
Almost perfect timing , Harry’s garage video almost over and a Tyrells classic workshop just uploaded a video
Do take a look at Ivans shed
The people in the house, next to the 30mph sign ,must turn to each other and say ‘there goes Harry’ whence he blasts away up that
road !
Surprised the coppers don't sit and wait, rubbing their hands together for quota time. LOL
@@johnandrews3568 He's in the same lodge as the Chief Super.
Interior, Brimley Cottage:
Mavis: "That sounded like the bespoke Ricardo 90 degree, flat-plane, twin turbo V8, dear."
Keith: "Yeah, it was."
I’ve done some work there for the people who live in that house, everyone boots it up that hill.........
The McLaren model range is all over the place, the 720S still is a very impressive car.
It's my duty to try launch control, love it.
Naturally.....
If it's Harry's duty to try launch control, it's our responsibility to watch and give it a like. 😎
Personally I have always liked the styling of the 720S. I hope McLaren never make a range of cars that all stem from the same 'design language'. Perhaps the sport series but otherwise they should all be unique. To me the eye sockets of the 720S look like an alien and that says alien technology which obviously far exceeds that of any earthly vehicle. It's a really fitting style for McLaren.
Thanks Harry, another very enjoyable video. You managed to make a £300k car sound like value for money. Keep 'em coming please.
Indeed. And now sit it next to the new Emira and ask...260k difference...I think not. From a dynamic aspect I do like it but not at the prices they ask and they need to seriously upgrade their interiors
@@paulredding5864 drive an Emira and a 720s, then get back to me.
@@MaxLiva You driven both?
Yet another quality video from Harry.
The footage of him demonstrating the launch control is epic, as is the sound from the exhausts. If there really is such a thing as reincarnation, I want to come back as Harry Metcalf! 😁
Watching that thing take off was awesome. The way it was fighting to put as much power down on a highly variable surface, looks like fun.
Always a pleasure watching, Harry.
As an aside, if you haven't, watch the young lad on the vTuned channel rebuild one of these. A young whippersnapper being fearless. He did good.
Thank you for setting the cameras up so that we can enjoy the drive just by watching.
It sounds fantastic. I even love the looks now. Great review and I’d have liked it even more if it were longer. Could you do a directors cut of some of these?
14:15 I just love how the camera cuts to Harry's face just as the speedometer reaches 60. thumbs up indeed.
By far the most sensible n honest reviewer right now, I was always wondering how they get ALL that power on the road on a two wheel drive well they just can't boot it up n it starts snaking no matter how good the chassis is, but a truly Amazing car
I love watching Harry’s videos. So much information.
I suspect that tail end wiggle during the launch was down to cold tyres and road camber.
I love the headlight inserts painted body colour! Makes it look alien!
reminds me of the tv show Space 1999 space transporters
Says the shirtless self portrait avatar guy ....
@@johnsmith1474 😆
Interestingly, some of the very things Harry liked about the McLaren (buttonless steering wheel, visibility, large boot space, etc) are weaknesses on the Lambo, but that big NA V10 is such a leveller.
and so relatively slow in comparison.
@@stubones But that noise though... I'd lose a good chunk of speed just for that noise.
@@stubones but the noise and throttle response 😍
@@stubones so you'd have to drive the McLaren on track or at illegal speeds to enjoy that advantage it has. You could dawdle along in the Lambo and just listen to that engine. Interestingly, Lambo engineers used to call turbos 'correctors' back in the day. They thought they were a handy way to get power if you couldn't engineer a high performance NA engine. It was a direct insult to Ferrari using forced induction in their 288s and F40
@@davecom3 I just got to drive a 720S spider and I have to agree. Never really cared for McLaren but I feel in love it with. Problem is it’s stupid fast and the car antagonizes you and it can’t even come close to being tapped on the street without breaking every traffic law or going on the autobahn. Less powerful cars allow you to play more within reason
Thank you Harry for another brilliant road test. What a machine Athe technology in these modern super cars is mind boggling.! As always you convey your comments in really easy to understand language and leave me looking forward to the next episode!
Possibly your best video yet, certainly one of the best cars. Love the channel, keep em coming!
Great video - a proper review, a proper drive and a clear conclusion - if you buy that type of car, you buy it to drive it, and the McLaren is as you say Lotus-like - Thank You Harry - Good Luck!
Such quality videos best of the bunch by far.
Really enjoyed this Vlog , so much detail and background information .
Brilliant and classy as always, best motoring journalist out there by far.
Throughly enjoyed this one, thanks. Completely agree with you on the 720S vs F8. One tip, when you put the roof down, you can raise the rear window and it helps significantly with wind buffering.
Harry looking at your face when you floored it I'd say you were like a kid in a toy shop 👍🍻great stuff
Great informative balanced review Harry as ever, fantastic to watch and enjoy
Amazing coverage, and I love the energy!
“That was quite a lot of opposite lock”😂🤣
Maybe it is the colour, however the panel gap on the door is very visible.. great content Harry 👍🏻
Thank you for the really close up HD shots
Great honest review without crazy driving , power slides and burn outs.
Another brilliant review, Harry.
I hope we get to see Harry in an elise or exige final edition soon, those are cars I could see Harry getting on with
Saw a purple metallic one in Cheltenham this morning. Absolutely STUNNING in the metal!
Epic car, thanks for the review Harry! Looking forward to either hte 765lt or 750 review :-)!
He asks the right questions with great answers. Buy secondhand, prefer it over the F8, Lambo runs it close, its quick as a Veyron.
How extraordinary, and a real ray of sunshine in a market that’s becoming saturated with bovine crossovers. Bravo, McLaren. Unreachable, but heavenly to dream about.
The oversteer is caused by the driver selecting "Launch" and flooring it H-man - it's got sweet FA to do with the bumpy road!! Excellent video.
Who'd have thought... a action reply on a Harrys Garage video!!🤣🤣👍👍 love the video Harry.
I'm so happy Hypercar manufacturers have made a comeback in the last 10-15 years. Particularly McLaren.
Awesome car.
Made my day @Harry.
Love this but the Huracan engine is something special.
Your reviews are awesome. LJK would be proud.
You're right; it's old, underpowered and about to be regulated out of existence. Great for those who value show over go.
Great vid as ever and interesting views on McLaren GT range. Nice to see the new Yaris with a slot in the barn.
really great vid harry, I enjoyed the extra camera angles and good solid report on the car..
I see the Blackberry metallic Jag next to the Ftype. I have the XF in that color. I don’t know why they discontinued that color. It’s gorgeous.
"If you look in the classifieds, these are starting to look very attractively priced"
Nope, still far too expensive for little ol' me.
Check out the 650s or 12c instead ;)
@@mattevans4377 Yes, if you are wealthy, just not THAT wealthy ;
@@mattevans4377 Buying a McLaren is just the start. Have you seen the maintenance and warranty costs let alone the future depreciation and insurance!!!
@@hpman911 I suggest you check out JayEmm on cars, he did a couple videos on how to service a Mclaren more cheaply than just going to Mclaren.
YES! Post F1 race Sunday... Coffee + Harry's garage... 🥳
You can actually feel Harry's enjoyment when driving this car - great video - and a real driver's car
Time to sit down with a beer! Thanks Harry!
Launch control proper needs to have the throttle pressed to the floor for longer than that Harry. The dash display shows the boost pressure building so you leave the line on boost. Probably would have just resulted in a bit more opposite lock a bit further up the road 😂
Brilliant Video as always. crazy amount of power but you make it look so easy driving when am sure with all that power even with all the tech onboard still a handful .
Love all the videos that you make I can't miss one. The audio on this though really made it hard to concentrate and on some videos before too I realise it isn't a phantom and audio dubbing would be more work but possibly a lapel mic to give you the chance to dub some bits if necessary sometimes would be worthwhile keep up the great work I've bought Evo from issue 3 and feel like I've known you half my life now. Cheers Sir 👍
I do have a new phone recently so this maybe making more of it for me than for others 👍
One of the few cars that keeps a 1000cc sports bike honest in a drag race to 100mph and it will be easier to deliver the published times for an average driver than average rider. But then a second hand litre sportsbike is a lot less than £140k+
Great review as always Harry!
Bet my 23yo zzr1100 would give it a run for its money.
What a fabulous car and great to hear of specialists popping up across the country to look after McLaren's for less than kidney on eBay money. Loved the review.
They have the dealer Rob you blind, because McLaren Rob them blind for oem parts!
I don't watch videos about cars and stuff but Harry's videos are far more than just cars. He is a class man and also makes me feel that I might consider buying one of the cars he is presenting whereas I can't even afford orange stitches. I like that he shows to us that these are above all things and not a matter to boast about. He just treat it as normal as for instance a Fiat 126 that I owned years ago. Pleasure to watch. Thanks Harry.
Sharp handling skills there Harry 👌 she went nicely sideways off the line. What a machine
I tried Harry’s test route the other day. It is a lot tougher than it looks - but a lot of fun too!
Clear, concise, informative, thanks again Harry.
Love Harry but no. 11:55 "everything is unique... " Nope. This car has Nissan engine (modified OFC), Ricardo gearbox and they produce engine as well. Until recently not even carbon fiber was made by them - Carbo Tech from Austria. Same with most electronics. And the list goes on.
@@hagestad the point was that major parts aren’t shared through other major competitors. Like the V10 and infotainment shared with the he Huracan and R8. Smaller things aren’t as recognizable.
@@cm-15 sure they are. It's a Nissan engine and Ricardo gearbox. Magically they don't use it in anything else?
@@hagestad What McLaren competitors share parts with mclaren? Or how many McLaren parts are used by several other companies? The answer is none or not that much. That was Harry’s point. Harry also explained in another comment about how that engine is purpose built for McLaren unlike others that are shared.
@@cm-15 Ricardo gearboxes are used by ford and Mercedes. Ferrari as well i think (or perhaps they use getrag). Akebono ceramics are used quite often in high end cars.
Fantastic ‘H’. Best review of this car I’ve seen. 😀👍🏻
Brilliant review by far the best 720 S video out there by a country mile
Nothing like a Harry's Garage video to better your day! Even if I could justify the price, McLaren's reputation for excessive depreciation, maintenance and repairs - and the pricing thereof - makes the brand a solid PASS.
The 540/570 series opened up the brand to ordinary folks and younger buyers ( e.g. three year monthlies contract )
Great vid, as usual, Harry. FWIW, the structural feature you are talking about at 18:44 is "stiffness" not strength. Strength is resistance to structural damage or failure, stiffness is what makes the chassis feel like a brick.. But you knew that. Non-engineers mix these terms, it is understandable.
I agree that I would not want to own an expensive supercar that had lag like that at road speeds.
“Definitely going 60 now” 🤣 ... and the rest Harry!
Strange how the best TH-cam reviews involve the names, Harry, Henry and Harris 🤔
Top of your game as usual, Harry. Great video 📹👍
Great review, I really enjoyed that. Hopefully in years down the line they'll drop even further
Mclaren are becoming more and more like luxury yachts...meaning that you love the day you buy it and then the day you finally manage to sell it
11:35 got to love a bit of ole Citroen suspension on a super car 🚙 😁
No one gives Citröen enough credit
@@dragospahontu yes because the french never respected the British for liberating them in ww2😂 no time for them
@@derektrotter4287 understandable
it is so impressive to have gone from 0 to where they are in not many years and with innovative and in-house solutions as well.
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 Many companies had financial troubles during the pandemic. But those don’t exist as much anymore as of spring 2020. It’s still impressive the traction they’ve made.
The options on this are LUDICROUS! 🤯
Harry's Garage, Harry's Farm, can you make a Harry's Watches next?
What about Harry's Wardrobe, Harry's Hunting, Harry's Boats, Harry's Mansion and and and... Broadspectrum Gentleman
But maybe leave out Hairy Harry
@@Pauld62 and Harry's pornhub. 😆
Is “Harry Watches” a TV critic type programme?
This is about great & good living not nonsense baubles for materialists.
I really prefer the light design on the McLaren to the Ferrari , I feel that sometimes people are afraid to call Ferrari’s boring. But that’s what I would say about the lights on the Fezza.
All subjective I know!
Brilliant review as usual Harry 👍
Thanks, Harry for a great review on the 720s, Mclaren has come out with the goods.
Great engine sound
almost as good as my vacuum cleaner
@@kubek555 your vacume cleaner sounds better than F8.. where did you get from ? I think Harry would be interested in it as well.
11:25 mind the pot holes jon ;) The state of our roads here in England are an absolute disgrace and yet nobody ever mentions it. They've gotten worse and worse..
that's the least of your worries. What about the wall to wall Socialism?
yep that hole in the middle of the apex of the bend still there. East Sussex County Council roads are the same. couldn't care less , every excuse they can think of is a full time job for them. ExSCuCes.
@@lucifarian93 It will be interesting to see how long Oxfordshire Council take to fix that particular pothole (it does look vicious!), as every vid of Harry’s has him driving past it!! 😂😂😂
@@joylightclub maybe if enough of us put in a 'fault report' to the council having seen it so often they might just might do something! . I went to a house near Dunsfold round the back way (there's an amazing road through the woods) near the Top Gear airdrome which used to be absolutely shocking with serious pot holes etc and that's Surrey Council. The next year we went it was immaculate black all the way with crisp white lines. Almost surreal seeing a newly surfaced road. I always wonder whether the Top Gear team had anything to do with it? Anyway it is rather amusing that Harry seems to regard the road surface as a test of the cars ability to cope. Would seem the 720 did quite well considering and the Alfa Sprint just got on with it.
@@lucifarian93 Agree with your point on reporting, and I’ve started to do this almost as routinely as I see poor road conditions.
HI Harry, re previous comments about your test route I did it today in my SLK55, I loved it. Swooping curves, many undulations and changes of camber, blind rises, hidden bends, all in all a great road and perfect for testing I’d say. Yes it’s bumpy in places but this is the U.K. and roads are bumpy but no potholes (which is more than I can say about the Cirencester to Burford road, it’s a disgrace, thousands of pounds of suspension work awaiting you), great for suspension testing (the SLK handled the compression perfectly btw). Unfortunately having followed it to the end I got lost in a maze of road closures and ended up in Woodstock! Hey ho, I had a brilliant day out top down in the very warm sunshine. I’ll watch your vids with extra attention from now on.
V Best
TonyS
One of these would be the first car I'd buy in the hypothetical Lotto win garage to use everyday.....although not in orange!
Cracking content as always.
Cheers.
"I got this car in because... "
What a life to have when you can pick and choose which supercar to drive on extended loan 😆
Well when you put up your life savings to found Evo magazine you get some returns. Check out the podcast Chris Harris did with Harry, it’s a great story
@@nathanchildress5596 Just to be clear, I don't begrudge Harry. Seems like a good guy and I love his channel but I don't think this is exactly a rags to riches tale.
Not that I could afford one, I'd like to see McLaren build a light four cylinder sports car ala Lotus. Something super simple in the Elan tradition ie minimalist. And no whacky body shaping, just a simple form.
Agree with you re light four cylinder sports car but I'd prefer to see Gordon Murry's new company develop an affordable light weight sports car. Instant success story!
@@superseven7947 - There is no reason to state it would be an "instant success," nor can I see why it would be preferable to a McLaren, or least of all affordable as they don't have significant manufacturing capability. (PS The topic here is McLaren.)
I love my Sunday afternoon's woth new videos
Great video pointing out the pros and cons of an amazing vehicle. One thing that surprised me was the news, to me anyway, that McLaren buys in their engines. If only they offered the 4-year guarantee + the 7-year maintenance as Ferrari does, the 720s would be a more attractive package.
8:06 'Now the dash has gone down because it's got bored: not surprised, really'. That's exactly why we subscribe!
My favorite line as well.
What this man has forgotten about cars would triple my active knowledge of cars.......I better hit the books!
What he knows you won’t learn reading books
The turn signals still sound like those of a 1960s Plymouth. 😀 Great review, thank you.
Has a sniff of the Zonda I think with its cab-forward silhouette - nicely proportioned too (prefer it to the Scud' and Raging Bull tbh). Nice review as ever sir.
Hi, Harry. Is it possible for you to book a Mazda MX-5 RF or the regular convertible?
A proper sports car
@@pauldarlington9157 Harry doesn't like Asian cars
Maybe 911 gt3 touring is the one: NA, manual, high revs.
Are there any other car like it produced today?
Yes, I look forward to a road review of the latest variant.
Another great review Harry. But -please, there HAS to be a way of boosting the speech mic, whilst keeping the engine noise. Maybe a lapel mic? It's fine in some of the cars but in others it's so difficult to hear every word without cranking up the volume to a level where 'er indoors starts to complain : )
Absolutely fantastic HARRY and showcased by the best!😏👍
"How many special editions of this are you going to make?"
Mclaren: Yes."