I see most of the top comments are people complaining about the size. I've been using a 27" 1440p monitor since 2016 and I love the size but the pixel density isn't where I want it. I've tried a 4k 32" monitor but it's too big while sitting roughly 3 ft away and game UI elements end up too far outside of my peripheral vision. I must be in the minority of people who want more pixel density and not a bigger monitor.
100% agreed, been using a 28" 4k monitor for a long time and I love the pixel density, I have just been waiting for a higher refresh rate one and with the inclusion of HDMI 2.1 this monitor is a no brainer buy for me.
He is quite biased in this review. He is telling the viewers (and most of them are no tech nerds) that this Monitor is a better deal than the GN950 because the LG Monitor has no HDMI 2.1. This is biased because he 100% knows that the GP model has HDMI 2.1. But hey, Fanboys of TH-cam channels dont like to talk about that, just look at the most liked comments under each video, its always bs comments like „moustache“ and shit like that instead of talking about the actual product or about the review.... quite sad
@@ICEMANZIDANE uh, one small problem with your review...the cheapest I could find the GN950 new is £800 whilst the VG28UQL1A I could find for as low as £550
Neither! Theres a lot of gamers expecting great things from the new 2.1 technology, but they were all really disappointed with all of these monitors. If i was you, I'd be waiting another 6-12 months for better monitors to come out 👍
@@dopamine-87 Disappointed in what? What about these monitors is disappointing? Because they’re better than my current 1080p 144hz and 4k 60hz setup. I pulled the trigger already on the M28U because it’s the best bang for your buck. I probably would of ordered the LG 27GP950-B if it were in stock. My wallet couldn’t wait nor could my want to play on something better than I have. Since this is my passion I needed one of them now. But I understand why others may want to wait for something else.
@@dopamine-87 You console players are not supposed to buy this monitor anyway.. they advertise it for console as well.. but you really think it’s made for console ?😂 most stupid overkill… and only 120hz is used for console.
Adjusting the locked out options will push the monitor away from displaying sRGB correctly. When you see this behaviour you know the panel/firmware can barely meet sRGB requirements.
I've always had an Asus Flat screen when I jumped from a 15-inch LG to a 24-inch Asus. I replaced my 2 x 27 1080p 144hz Asus with this, and it's good to watch clean and sharp videos and gaming feels like on another level. I understand that there are going to be pros and cons with every monitor but I can't see myself owning anything other than Asus monitors. Thanks for this informed video. It has helped me with my decision making when I wanted to upgrade my monitors.
@@Borex2 i got the m28 u about 8 months now , i feel the only two thing which is ghosting at 60hz (not ver visible unless you are looking for it ) + 8 bit colors
As someone who has the 24.5in 1080p 165 g sync and the 28in 4k 60 free sync both are the tuff gaming editions, I would buy this and replace my current 4k but I rather get the ultra wide for my sim racer set up as there is a ultrawide tuf gamming edition as well. The colors on these monitors are so good.
Probably not a large enough demand in the market, 27/28 inch seem to be far more common. But I agree, with 4k in the future a 32 inch screen will be a must, with such a gorgeous resolution that can look so amazing when you have the hardware to have all the bells and whistles turned on, larger than 27 inch is very desirable (when 4k becomes cheaper, like with how 27 inch became the 1440p standard, I'm certain we'll start to see more 32 inch monitors on the market that don't cost the price of a cheap car).
No fucking idea, 4k is stupid at 28 even though it's visibly better than 1440p at that size. Either give us 32 4k or an in-between resolution for 27,28, the resolution gap is too big to justify the same size and the loss in performance.
I believe the Asus model is better than the Gigabyte due to the gigabyte not allowing the full load on the HDMI 2.1 port. The Asus model allows the full 48gb.
Why at 6:52 (Best Gray-to-Gray Performance) you show that LG 27GN950 have 6.53ms response time, when in your review of LG 27GN950 it had "Best Gray-to-Gray Performance" of 4.09ms? Similar for "Average Gray-to-Gray Performance": 6.34ms vs 4.08ms in your review of LG 27GN950.
Nah, the 'stache was just overshooting all over the place. You don't want your monitor expert to show invert ghosting on his face whenever he smiles, do you?
Which would you prefer between this monitor and the Samsung Odyssey G70A 144hz flat panel? I am ready to upgrade my monitor but Im hearing a lot of bad things about Samsung, not sure as I don't keep up with technology much. But $700-$800 is a lot to pay for something that may have problems.
I picked up the M28U love it mostly use it for consoles like ps5 and series x perfect for the price. Plus I think the M28U offers better selection of ports for my M1 laptop and if I wanted a pc. Everything can be switched thru KVM and I can do settings with a mouse and not buttons on the back of the monitor. Plus I think calibration is better on the M28U i don’t know that’s just me for the price you and all that you can’t beat it that’s why I got it.
@@leonydus9889 Best monitor I’ve ever bought, picture quality amazing you can tune it however you like. Use it for my series x and 3080 laptop. The usb c is display alt so I can use my laptop as a second screen while charging. Been playing a lot of Cold War. Walking out from picking up 2K 22 next gen, gonna run it on the M28U.
There are at least 2 more models with the same panel: Samsung G7 4K and Acer XV282K. Interesting to see if LG managed to improve GN950 with GP950 to compete with this new cheaper Asus, Gigabyte, Acer and Samsung clones.
As far as I know, the LG 27GP950 only has HDMI 2.1 and no other improvements. That's why I would like to know what's better: go for the cheaper Asus or Gigabyte or the LG, considering both have HDMI 2.1 now.
Damn it, when i read the title and heard the guy saying is one of the more affordable 4k monitors, I hopped their prices are staring to finally drop as they become more mainstream. But at 600 USD that translates to 3200 RON which is more then my salary here in Romania :)))))))
@@Chriisanthemum depends on what you want to do. Bandwidth-wise HDMI 2.1 falls short in comparison to DP 2.0(48 Gbps vs 77.37 Gbps). That difference will influence some things like higher refresh rates, HDR implementation. I use dual monitors and i wouldnt want to miss 144Hz at 4k on both.
Are there any GPUs right now that even support DP 2.0 yet? I’d assume that would be coming with the next generation of GPUs (or refreshes of current ones if that even happens given the current situation). That’s going to make for a very steep price tag nonetheless.
Well, I plan on getting an LG C1 48” OLED for my PS5, but I wish I’d known this was coming out about a month ago before deciding to buy last year’s XG27UQ as that only has HDMI 2.0b ports along with the DP 1.4 DSC ports. Edit: Watching this review, it seems the XG27UQ has the better panel when it comes to response times. At level 2, the overshoot is much more manageable across the refresh range between 60 and 144 Hz. I reference RTINGS’ review of the XG27UQ.
@@mr_super_saiyan3499 It’s only marginally better than the VG28UQLA as my particular XG27UQ has better response times (as Tim says in all his reviews though, each panel will have different tolerances). I would say if you’re willing to sacrifice HDMI 2.1 support and 1” of screen size, and you can still find the XG27UQ for sale, go ahead and get that instead; but otherwise just stick with what you have, or search around for other 4K/144 monitor reviews with more up-to-date compatibilities such as HDMI 2.1 support.
What HDMI 2,1 monitor would you chose for PS5? Acer Nitro XV282KKV , Asus TUF VG28UQL1A , Gigabyte M28U or the Samsung odyssey G7 ? Thanks for good videos!
What did you go for? I had the LG and returned because of a dead pixel and they are now out of stock.. so now I'm between m28u and this one in the video.
I just ordered this monitor for my PS5. From what I’ve watched and read in comment sections, this seems like a great choice for the max budget I had set.
@@HughsReviews very cool. I've just bought it and a lot of people have been shitting on it. I had to return my beautiful Optix MAG274QRX because of tiny pixel defect! Shipping, returning and wait time is hell.
I bought the m28u a few days before your review of it came out. It went through a tornado and was missing all the cables except power. I tried to exchange it but it went sold out everywhere after your review. So now I don't have a monitor as they refunded the purchase. So I may just wait to see how the asus pg32uq turns out. It was gsync certified in the latest NV driver, so maybe see it soon.
Hi Tim. Does this monitor lock the OD mode when in its sRGB mode? In the M28U review, you mentioned that this panel was locked to the 'Smart OD' mode when in sRGB mode. In the review of this VG28UQL1A you did not mention if the OD modes was locked is using its sRGB mode. I trust my question makes sense. Also, just on a related question, what effect does using a 4K panel have on the idle power of a GPU? I have noticed that in the Windows 10 desktop at 60Hz on my 1440p panel, my GPU (reference 6900XT) idles at between 6-8W, but if I select a 75Hz refresh the idle power jumps to 33-36W and there is a corresponding rise in GPU temp. Clearly the GPU is working harder to pump out 75 fps compared to 60fps, even when at idle on the Widows desktop. I have been considering moving to one of these newer 28" 4K panels, but am concerned that my GPU's idle power and temps, given the basic pixel pushing my GPU will have to do over a 1440p panel, will push my card to a temp where the fans have to come on periodically, and I would find this really annoying. Have you or Steve done any analysis/testing of idle power at different panel resolutions and/or refresh rates?
I was keen but recently found out the panel is a BGR panel and I plan on using it for 8 hours day for work. I need text to look clean and normal so had to drop the Aorus off my list
@@tomhancock4519 it is a VA, but it uses a BGR layout, essentially the opposite of usual RGB pixels. It means you get blurry and discoloured text. No impact to content consumption but not ideal for work. Google BRG it may be important info depending on what you’re planning to use the panel for.
Same boat, there really isn't anything else in its class with its featureset. Would love to see a full review with an examination of where cleartype doesn't "fix" the issue or the viability of workarounds like mounting upside down.
I don't understand brightness i think, how can a monitor be only 300 or 350nits, but still carry an HDR400, or sometimes even HDR600 cert, when it;''s own specs say it can't reach that brightness?
To get a HDR certification in terms of brightness, the monitor only has to have a peak brightness of that value or higher, not a standard brightness of that value. Also anything but HDR 1000 is pretty much a waste of money. There's practically no point. And even then, unless it has at least a few hundred backlit zones, if not thousands or an OLED, then you won't really get a huge benefit from it and it can in fact make your images look worse half the time. Like you can get amazing monitors that don't have HDR 1000 certification but if you're buying for HDR specifically, I'd focus more on the other monitor features and not HDR if it's 600 or below.
@@oppi263 I have C9 for 2 years and don't see any flaws or burn in. Used as PC monitor only for mainly 50% gaming, 30% office work, 20% Media. This is with HDR etc. The screen does dim after a few min inactivity. I haven't seen the need to run pixel refresher either. I think if I were to upgrade it would be to LG C2 with full HDMI 2.1 48gbps.
@@granthampson5917 Im using 48" CX since fairly accurate 1 year and I'm getting image retention on some colors... last few months only used for desktop on all black/gray. Its not real burn in but noticeable like on RTINGS test 20k hours COD WWII
@@oppi263 Eish. I think I should run the pixel refresher. I don't see or notice any burn in on my C9, will read up on what tests to run to check burn in or condition. I do try calibrate screen using software (don't have a colorimeter).
I’m looking for the best 4k gaming monitor for PS5 in your Opinion what do you think that is? Because on versus this monitor was ranked number 2 with a 93 overall but I’d like to know your opinion?
Hey great video btw exactly what I was looking for. One question, the m28u doesn’t allow for the backlight strobing at 4K 120hz only at 4K 100hz so I was wondering if the Asus is the same or is it better in this situation?
Great review! Could you also do one for the G7A and 27GP950? I have a G7A on its way but I'm not sure I should return it and wait for the LG to be available instead...
Is it worth it to go for 4k high refresh rates? In my 42" 4k tv i can barelly see anything in 4k since the icons and stuff get so small. I know windows has scaling options but in a monitor, so many invisible pixels looks like a waste for me, specially when we can find some good 1440p 144hz cheaper monitors.
I would get an IPS 1440p 144hz or higher if price is right. Since 4k 144hz or morr requires a high end PC. If you have good specs go for it. That will most likely my next monitor upgrade an ips 1440p 144hz. I still enjoy my 2x ips 144hz monitors and can run it easily.
I just returned a very GOOD MSI Optix MAG274QRX gaming monitor because it had a defect. Now I've spent hours trying to find the best new game Monitor and now I have 2nd thoughts for buying this. I CAN'T WIN!
@Anonymous sending it back. It wasn't what I wanted for the money. The resolution wasn't great for me. It had a tiny dot on the screen. I got the LG 27GP950 4k monitor. I'm very satisfied.
@@WestSeaSpirit thank you for this comment. it was useful for me, i am also planning to buy this because no other 4k monitor is in stock at the moment but after reading your comment, i might have seconds thoughts and might wait a little bit more for the monitors to get restocked
@@theSilentDude96 yes! I also did not want to wait. Do not rush. I was desperate after days of research and I settled for 1440p. My mistakes were, I bought it used. It had damaged pixel and the resolution was not not sharp enough and 240 hz was too much of an overkill. What I have learned and what was perfect for me was, for 2 years I had an LG tv and it was perfect. So instead of chosing MSI, I should of stuck with a brand I knew I loved which was LG and I did get the LG 4k monitor with 144hz. The quality and boxing was vastly superior compared to MSI. This is my own opinion. My 4k LG monitor was not cheap by any means. I've spend like I think $830. You pay for what you get, if you are like me and want strong colors, a good refresh rate and an ultra sharp monitor, go with 4k. Do not go with 1080p. Do not go with 1440p. You will hate it. I would like to hear an update from you.
These 28inch Monitors are unfortunately not appealing to a big part of potential customers. Iam gaming for more than 20 years and on the PC, the optimal size is 24inch. The max you can go is 27inch, if you go higher than that then you can essentially forget competitive gaming and also get used to neck pain... Iam 100% sure that the manufacturer of the new 28inch Panel knows that 27inch is better but i assume that the 28inch panel is cheaper for them to manufacture. Quite sad tbh, i would like to buy one..
Man going through all these monitor reviews and I'm glad i got mine on sale i only have a 1440p but it was only 300 after tax for the asus tuf gaming monitor i got.
@Roenie Gaming That usually costs at least a hundred and something plus. Not everyone has the money to just spend a sixth or more of the monitor price on an arm for it when they already have a stand.
Great review! is also worth to mentioning this monitor claims to support full 10bit 4:4:4 chroma color with no compression with a full 48Gbps bandwidth but how can all these 4k monitors have ghosting when running games at 60fps? most games can only be run at 4k60fps heck Gotham knights can only run at 30fps. How can we enjoy a 4k monitor when ghosting is an issue at 60fps?
Still can't get decent info on the new panel on Benq MOBIUZ IPS EX2510S 165Hz , benq just evaded the question :/. Hope you guys get a chance to cover it since i wanted to know if its worth paying extra for a bit of more speed or the panel is actually better than the old model.
da you definitely know you stuff just amazing... im a lucky lad i got a 3080 and i play battlefield and cod ,, i was thinking a of a 4k monitor hence looking here but all my m8 say no as i will get approx 90/100 fps on a 4k ,, they say to buy a 240hz for being more competitive and to get more kills ect .. any advice if you were me and if you could pick any monitor from this date of writing this what would it be,, keep up the fantastic videos,, i will learn a lot thank you sir
The ability to pivot this monitor over the M28U's fixed base is a major plus for me. I went from a 27" Dell which had it, to an MSI 27" curved display which didn't, then back to my current Dell 2716DG...I really missed being about adjust the monitor to match my position with the MSI monitor (as someone who often has my feet up on the desk when watching videos, leaning off to the side). As such this would probably swing me towards this over the M28U for this feature alone.
Hmm, I have th M32U and is the difference in overshoot really that noticable when gaming on a PS5 in 60 Hz? Somehow I would like to try again 28 inch. Has the Asus less overshoot than the M28U? Edit: Ah, okay they are pretty similar. Maybe even my Asus 4k 60 Hz MG28 something from 2016 is better with less overshoot at 60 Hz than these two.
@@flockelocke2297 your 2016 60hz monitor may have less % overshoot as it was specifically designed for that refresh rate. However, it will get nowhere near the average 5 ms response times of this panel at 60hz, even after adding overshoot times (which would take an extra 1-2 ms to stabilize).
@@gencoserpen1260 It's a TN panel and motion is incredible on it for such an old monitor (Asus MG28UQ) and I come from the M32U. Input lag isn't very good. I bought another 28 inch monitor the Acer Predator XB283KKV which is maybe the best out of all these 4K 144 Hz 28 inch monitors but it hasn't arrived. Hopefully it comes next week without pixel errors and not much bleed and glow. I will open the box very carefully just in case that I have to return it. 😄
@@flockelocke2297 I couldn't find the Acer in my country, only the M28U, the VG281UQL and the new Samsung LS28BG702. Early reports indicate this new Samsung 28" suffers from screen blackouts during VRR. Knowing Samsung I'm not expecting a firmware fix any time soon. Between the Gigabyte and Asus I'll probably go for the Asus. As a coder the ability to pivot the monitor to portrait mode looks attractive to me. The HDMI 2.1 ports on the Asus are also full 48 Gbps. Although I don't need HDMI right now its good for future proofing.
can wait for PG32UQ (non X) review. 27-28 is too small. LG also has a 42" 120HZ OLED coming in early 2022 (CES) as well. supposed to be around $1k msrp
How do they say that's this monitor is 1ms GTG and your review says that it is 4.6ms GTG, I believe in your reviews more but is this consider misleading from ASUS?
Hello, I am french, i don't understand everything. I have bought this model and i had a problem, white is not white. When i launch google main page, it look like a mix of white and grey, have you got the same sensation ?
@@drunkhusband6257you think so ? May I ask what u feel are the advantages .. production and gaming wise.. cause I may take you up on exploring that option
Is the ghosting/overshoot at 60hz extremley noticeable when gaming ? Most games on ps5 are 60hz thats the only thing what makes me insecure about using it with my ps5
I bought VG28U due to other two reasons : built-in speaker, power consumption 30W which is far less than M28U 115W....in my country it is $140 more expensive than M28U
Definitely go for this one, I've tried this one and the Samsung G70A. The Samsung monitor had so many issues and after 3 replacements I went with the Asus model instead. I haven't had any issues with it so far.
I see most of the top comments are people complaining about the size. I've been using a 27" 1440p monitor since 2016 and I love the size but the pixel density isn't where I want it. I've tried a 4k 32" monitor but it's too big while sitting roughly 3 ft away and game UI elements end up too far outside of my peripheral vision. I must be in the minority of people who want more pixel density and not a bigger monitor.
100% agreed, been using a 28" 4k monitor for a long time and I love the pixel density, I have just been waiting for a higher refresh rate one and with the inclusion of HDMI 2.1 this monitor is a no brainer buy for me.
I feel you anything over 24 is to big as a monitor tbh. But they don't sell anything smaller than 4k 27 inch
Hardware Unboxed might just be one of the most reliable gaming hardware channels I’ve watched. Keep up the stellar work!😌🤝
He is quite biased in this review. He is telling the viewers (and most of them are no tech nerds) that this Monitor is a better deal than the GN950 because the LG Monitor has no HDMI 2.1. This is biased because he 100% knows that the GP model has HDMI 2.1.
But hey, Fanboys of TH-cam channels dont like to talk about that, just look at the most liked comments under each video, its always bs comments like „moustache“ and shit like that instead of talking about the actual product or about the review.... quite sad
@@ICEMANZIDANE uh, one small problem with your review...the cheapest I could find the GN950 new is £800 whilst the VG28UQL1A I could find for as low as £550
I'd like to mention I'm talking brand new, not used
Thank you! Would like to see reviews of PG32UQ, FI32U and Acer XB3. All the newest 4K 32" 144 Hz. Please!
Thank you! I want this monitor, but in 32 inches.
They already reviewed the PG32UQ you total bellend!
@@colors6692 it's not a 32" 4k 144 hz monitor worth buying
@@colors6692 no, you are wrong. PG32UQX is different! Check your eyesight
@@colors6692 they review the pg32uqx not pg32uq
Tim no longer looks like an 80's pornstar. Now he looks like a skater, a smart skater.
That's one hell of a comparison
The truth has been spoken
It’s a shame
Tim looks so weird!
More 'dapper' for sure but still.....
damn. couldn't be more right.
Odyssey G7 S28AG70 vs Gigabyte M28U vs LG 27GP950-B vs ASUS VG28UQL1A
Which one is THE BEST 4k 144 monitor for PS5 and PC gaming? I can’t decide!
Neither! Theres a lot of gamers expecting great things from the new 2.1 technology, but they were all really disappointed with all of these monitors. If i was you, I'd be waiting another 6-12 months for better monitors to come out 👍
@@dopamine-87 Disappointed in what? What about these monitors is disappointing? Because they’re better than my current 1080p 144hz and 4k 60hz setup.
I pulled the trigger already on the M28U because it’s the best bang for your buck. I probably would of ordered the LG 27GP950-B if it were in stock.
My wallet couldn’t wait nor could my want to play on something better than I have. Since this is my passion I needed one of them now. But I understand why others may want to wait for something else.
@@EliteShot I would buy the Asus Tuf Gaming one for more reliability and durability as time passes by but gigabyte isn’t bad either.
@@dopamine-87 You console players are not supposed to buy this monitor anyway.. they advertise it for console as well.. but you really think it’s made for console ?😂 most stupid overkill… and only 120hz is used for console.
@@lost_places_global9008 ive got multiple pc's too home boy, for the price, consoles are awesome, this monitor is not
I literally cannot fathom why these companies lock down options in the srgb mode. It's so unbelievably stupid.
Adjusting the locked out options will push the monitor away from displaying sRGB correctly.
When you see this behaviour you know the panel/firmware can barely meet sRGB requirements.
@@vgamedude12 It's pretty much just there for marketing purposes, much like 1ms overdrive presets.
I've always had an Asus Flat screen when I jumped from a 15-inch LG to a 24-inch Asus. I replaced my 2 x 27 1080p 144hz Asus with this, and it's good to watch clean and sharp videos and gaming feels like on another level.
I understand that there are going to be pros and cons with every monitor but I can't see myself owning anything other than Asus monitors.
Thanks for this informed video. It has helped me with my decision making when I wanted to upgrade my monitors.
I think having 4 HDMI ports is a huge selling point - basically lets you have your computer area set up as a full media station.
Been waiting on a review of this monitor. Was going to pick up either this or the M28u. Thanks for doing it :)
Gigabyte M28U vs Asus VG28UQL1A - who also is interested in this?
Which is better?
@@Borex2any news?
@@Waleed-rs4mo i got VG28UQL1A due to HDR10 feature. I can't speak for M28U but i seems they are similar
@@Borex2 i got the m28 u about 8 months now , i feel the only two thing which is ghosting at 60hz (not ver visible unless you are looking for it ) + 8 bit colors
As someone who has the 24.5in 1080p 165 g sync and the 28in 4k 60 free sync both are the tuff gaming editions, I would buy this and replace my current 4k but I rather get the ultra wide for my sim racer set up as there is a ultrawide tuf gamming edition as well. The colors on these monitors are so good.
WE WANT 32 inch 4K MONITORS!!
How come they are so rare?!
Its because of joe
Probably not a large enough demand in the market, 27/28 inch seem to be far more common. But I agree, with 4k in the future a 32 inch screen will be a must, with such a gorgeous resolution that can look so amazing when you have the hardware to have all the bells and whistles turned on, larger than 27 inch is very desirable (when 4k becomes cheaper, like with how 27 inch became the 1440p standard, I'm certain we'll start to see more 32 inch monitors on the market that don't cost the price of a cheap car).
No fucking idea, 4k is stupid at 28 even though it's visibly better than 1440p at that size. Either give us 32 4k or an in-between resolution for 27,28, the resolution gap is too big to justify the same size and the loss in performance.
Because how can 32 inches be 4k? I mean how can you even tell the difference from a 1080p 32”?
Yes, that's exactly what I want.
I believe the Asus model is better than the Gigabyte due to the gigabyte not allowing the full load on the HDMI 2.1 port. The Asus model allows the full 48gb.
Why at 6:52 (Best Gray-to-Gray Performance) you show that LG 27GN950 have 6.53ms response time, when in your review of LG 27GN950 it had "Best Gray-to-Gray Performance" of 4.09ms?
Similar for "Average Gray-to-Gray Performance": 6.34ms vs 4.08ms in your review of LG 27GN950.
He uses a new monitor test method. There is a video about it.
Thanks Tim, was waiting for this one and you didn't disappoint as always, just the pg32uq to go for me now
The FPS loss on this channel is massive without the 'stache.
It brought the cumulative deviation up substantially
the mustache feel off
Yep. He needs to grow some RGB.
Nah, the 'stache was just overshooting all over the place.
You don't want your monitor expert to show invert ghosting on his face whenever he smiles, do you?
can you make a video on the lg 27gp950? i need a monitor for my ps5 and i’m struggling to decide between this, the samsung g7, and the gigabyte m28u
12:40 even though he said the brightness is low on this monitor, i had to tune the brightness way down to not strain my eyes.
Which would you prefer between this monitor and the Samsung Odyssey G70A 144hz flat panel? I am ready to upgrade my monitor but Im hearing a lot of bad things about Samsung, not sure as I don't keep up with technology much. But $700-$800 is a lot to pay for something that may have problems.
I picked up the M28U love it mostly use it for consoles like ps5 and series x perfect for the price. Plus I think the M28U offers better selection of ports for my M1 laptop and if I wanted a pc. Everything can be switched thru KVM and I can do settings with a mouse and not buttons on the back of the monitor. Plus I think calibration is better on the M28U i don’t know that’s just me for the price you and all that you can’t beat it that’s why I got it.
hows the picture clarity and sharpness? any cons?
@@leonydus9889 Best monitor I’ve ever bought, picture quality amazing you can tune it however you like. Use it for my series x and 3080 laptop. The usb c is display alt so I can use my laptop as a second screen while charging. Been playing a lot of Cold War. Walking out from picking up 2K 22 next gen, gonna run it on the M28U.
I'm also looking for a monitor for both an m1 laptop and ps5. Would you still recommend this?
There are at least 2 more models with the same panel: Samsung G7 4K and Acer XV282K. Interesting to see if LG managed to improve GN950 with GP950 to compete with this new cheaper Asus, Gigabyte, Acer and Samsung clones.
As far as I know, the LG 27GP950 only has HDMI 2.1 and no other improvements. That's why I would like to know what's better: go for the cheaper Asus or Gigabyte or the LG, considering both have HDMI 2.1 now.
Samsung uses the same panel?
@@falconeagle3655looks like
Damn it, when i read the title and heard the guy saying is one of the more affordable 4k monitors, I hopped their prices are staring to finally drop as they become more mainstream. But at 600 USD that translates to 3200 RON which is more then my salary here in Romania :)))))))
i feel you man....
Romania man, one of my friends went there like 20-25 years ago and 100 bucks was basically 3-6 months salary.
I hope you can move somewhere else when th pandemic ends
lol its 3 time the average salary here in egypt which is 200$😭
I mean, $600 is a drop from $800.
It is kinda not the right time to buy a 4k Monitor. DP 2.0 is around the corner and would make a good addition with HDMI 2.1.
does it really matter though?
@@Chriisanthemum not in my opinion. doesn't matter
@@Chriisanthemum depends on what you want to do. Bandwidth-wise HDMI 2.1 falls short in comparison to DP 2.0(48 Gbps vs 77.37 Gbps). That difference will influence some things like higher refresh rates, HDR implementation. I use dual monitors and i wouldnt want to miss 144Hz at 4k on both.
Are there any GPUs right now that even support DP 2.0 yet? I’d assume that would be coming with the next generation of GPUs (or refreshes of current ones if that even happens given the current situation). That’s going to make for a very steep price tag nonetheless.
@@zgoaty9235 The next generation of GPU‘s will be supporting DP 2.0. From AMD and Intel there were some news about it just some days ago.
Would love one for the new odyssey g7 and the LG 27gp950
Well, I plan on getting an LG C1 48” OLED for my PS5, but I wish I’d known this was coming out about a month ago before deciding to buy last year’s XG27UQ as that only has HDMI 2.0b ports along with the DP 1.4 DSC ports.
Edit: Watching this review, it seems the XG27UQ has the better panel when it comes to response times. At level 2, the overshoot is much more manageable across the refresh range between 60 and 144 Hz. I reference RTINGS’ review of the XG27UQ.
hey is xg27uq even better than Asus VG28UQL1A ? pls reply i bought this monitor and it has been just a week
@@mr_super_saiyan3499 It’s only marginally better than the VG28UQLA as my particular XG27UQ has better response times (as Tim says in all his reviews though, each panel will have different tolerances). I would say if you’re willing to sacrifice HDMI 2.1 support and 1” of screen size, and you can still find the XG27UQ for sale, go ahead and get that instead; but otherwise just stick with what you have, or search around for other 4K/144 monitor reviews with more up-to-date compatibilities such as HDMI 2.1 support.
What HDMI 2,1 monitor would you chose for PS5?
Acer Nitro XV282KKV ,
Asus TUF VG28UQL1A ,
Gigabyte M28U or the
Samsung odyssey G7 ?
Thanks for good videos!
What did you go for? I had the LG and returned because of a dead pixel and they are now out of stock.. so now I'm between m28u and this one in the video.
@@MacikSeba i went for the Samsung, but havent gotten it yet
@@Danyter did you order? If yes, where from? I was thinking samsung too before I found out about m28u. But samsung seems good too.
Right I have the series X and Acer Nitro XV282K KVbmiipruzx . I was wondering if this asus monitor is better.
@@Danyter I went with M28U, but still don't have it :/ maybe at the end of the month. So in few days.
Arriving in the mail on Monday! Was torn between this model and the M28U but getting full 48 GBPS for HDMI 2.1 sold me here. (Playing PS5)
How’s it with the P5?
@@brefrmtha4 10/10 would buy again!
@@ASiMRacer Did you update the firmware on Asus ?
Great review! Are you going to check out the Samsung LS28AG700N? similar specs to this. I wonder if it uses the same panel?
Please review Samsung G7 28'' 4k
Loving the content. Do you have the new Dell S3222dgm for review by chance? There's no info on it apart from a Linus unboxing.. :(
I just ordered this monitor for my PS5. From what I’ve watched and read in comment sections, this seems like a great choice for the max budget I had set.
It is good? For ps5
How do you like it? I want it for single player and Warzone
Absolutely amazing! No complaints at all.
@@HughsReviews i have the 1440p version really want to upgrade to this one. i haven't had any issues with mine either.
@@HughsReviews very cool. I've just bought it and a lot of people have been shitting on it. I had to return my beautiful Optix MAG274QRX because of tiny pixel defect! Shipping, returning and wait time is hell.
I bought the m28u a few days before your review of it came out. It went through a tornado and was missing all the cables except power. I tried to exchange it but it went sold out everywhere after your review. So now I don't have a monitor as they refunded the purchase.
So I may just wait to see how the asus pg32uq turns out. It was gsync certified in the latest NV driver, so maybe see it soon.
Hi Tim. Does this monitor lock the OD mode when in its sRGB mode? In the M28U review, you mentioned that this panel was locked to the 'Smart OD' mode when in sRGB mode. In the review of this VG28UQL1A you did not mention if the OD modes was locked is using its sRGB mode. I trust my question makes sense.
Also, just on a related question, what effect does using a 4K panel have on the idle power of a GPU? I have noticed that in the Windows 10 desktop at 60Hz on my 1440p panel, my GPU (reference 6900XT) idles at between 6-8W, but if I select a 75Hz refresh the idle power jumps to 33-36W and there is a corresponding rise in GPU temp. Clearly the GPU is working harder to pump out 75 fps compared to 60fps, even when at idle on the Widows desktop. I have been considering moving to one of these newer 28" 4K panels, but am concerned that my GPU's idle power and temps, given the basic pixel pushing my GPU will have to do over a 1440p panel, will push my card to a temp where the fans have to come on periodically, and I would find this really annoying. Have you or Steve done any analysis/testing of idle power at different panel resolutions and/or refresh rates?
Please please please review the gigabyte 4k FV43U.
All the other reviews on TH-cam are just general overviews and we needs full review by yourselves!
I was keen but recently found out the panel is a BGR panel and I plan on using it for 8 hours day for work. I need text to look clean and normal so had to drop the Aorus off my list
@@inmypaants Ty for the reply. I though it was a VA panel?
@@tomhancock4519 it is a VA, but it uses a BGR layout, essentially the opposite of usual RGB pixels. It means you get blurry and discoloured text. No impact to content consumption but not ideal for work. Google BRG it may be important info depending on what you’re planning to use the panel for.
@@inmypaants Apparently if you mount it upside down and flip the screen 180° in Windows that should fix it
Same boat, there really isn't anything else in its class with its featureset. Would love to see a full review with an examination of where cleartype doesn't "fix" the issue or the viability of workarounds like mounting upside down.
I don't understand brightness i think, how can a monitor be only 300 or 350nits, but still carry an HDR400, or sometimes even HDR600 cert, when it;''s own specs say it can't reach that brightness?
it just looks fancy on the box to the average consumer.
The nit rating is usually specified for SDR. If you watch the whole video, the HDR peak brightness is 450nits. 14:06
To get a HDR certification in terms of brightness, the monitor only has to have a peak brightness of that value or higher, not a standard brightness of that value. Also anything but HDR 1000 is pretty much a waste of money. There's practically no point. And even then, unless it has at least a few hundred backlit zones, if not thousands or an OLED, then you won't really get a huge benefit from it and it can in fact make your images look worse half the time. Like you can get amazing monitors that don't have HDR 1000 certification but if you're buying for HDR specifically, I'd focus more on the other monitor features and not HDR if it's 600 or below.
So glad the LG C1 is in the comparison. I would like to see 1 or 2 more good TVs, maybe a Sony and Samsung.
but for desktop only use bad , u get after 2-3k first burn in if only desktops
@@oppi263 I have C9 for 2 years and don't see any flaws or burn in. Used as PC monitor only for mainly 50% gaming, 30% office work, 20% Media. This is with HDR etc. The screen does dim after a few min inactivity. I haven't seen the need to run pixel refresher either. I think if I were to upgrade it would be to LG C2 with full HDMI 2.1 48gbps.
@@granthampson5917 Im using 48" CX since fairly accurate
1 year and I'm getting image retention on some colors... last few months only used for desktop on all black/gray. Its not real burn in but noticeable like on RTINGS test 20k hours COD WWII
@@oppi263 Eish. I think I should run the pixel refresher. I don't see or notice any burn in on my C9, will read up on what tests to run to check burn in or condition. I do try calibrate screen using software (don't have a colorimeter).
I’m looking for the best 4k gaming monitor for PS5 in your Opinion what do you think that is? Because on versus this monitor was ranked number 2 with a 93 overall but I’d like to know your opinion?
Hey great video btw exactly what I was looking for. One question, the m28u doesn’t allow for the backlight strobing at 4K 120hz only at 4K 100hz so I was wondering if the Asus is the same or is it better in this situation?
Any word on when this is releasing?
Will you make a video about the new Eve Spectrum?
LG has already HDMI 2.1 4K monitor: LG27GP950.
I bought this monitor recently. It is hard to find optimal or recommend all the time type settings. Think I could get any help in that area?
Is LG C1 still the king or Aorus fo48u is better?
At first I didn't see Tim's hand when he was showing the range of motion using the stand. The display looked haunted!
What would you suggest for a ps5? Playing mainly call of duty and fps games
Waiting for 2021 Odissey G70A
Great review! Could you also do one for the G7A and 27GP950? I have a G7A on its way but I'm not sure I should return it and wait for the LG to be available instead...
I can't even find the samsung g7 28inch listed any where.
@@Apollo-Computers In Switzerland it was available for 680 CHF last week so that's why I decided to order one :-)
@@jordan1751 in usa seems like nothing is available lol
What do you think about this ASUS VG28UQL1A or the LG 27GP950-B ? For the PS5 ?
Can’t wait for the new 28” ips Samsung G7 review
Have you tested the M32U from Gigabyte? If so, is there any significant difference, outside of size, between it an the M28U?
please review the acer 390hz 1080p monitor. it has backlight strobing and im on the fence about getting it over the benq zowie.
Do you plan to review the new G7?
Awesome movie!!!! Can you compare the samsung g7 28inch G70A with the gigabyt 4k and Asus 4k.
Still waiting for a 32" one that isnt$4k+ and has hdmi 2.1 😣
Gigabyte FI32U
Acer XB3 and Asus PG32UQ.
Yeah I been leaning towards the Aorus, the Asus still not released yet and seen nothing from LG (to match my existing monitors)
Is it worth it to go for 4k high refresh rates? In my 42" 4k tv i can barelly see anything in 4k since the icons and stuff get so small. I know windows has scaling options but in a monitor, so many invisible pixels looks like a waste for me, specially when we can find some good 1440p 144hz cheaper monitors.
I would get an IPS 1440p 144hz or higher if price is right. Since 4k 144hz or morr requires a high end PC. If you have good specs go for it. That will most likely my next monitor upgrade an ips 1440p 144hz. I still enjoy my 2x ips 144hz monitors and can run it easily.
I just returned a very GOOD MSI Optix MAG274QRX gaming monitor because it had a defect. Now I've spent hours trying to find the best new game Monitor and now I have 2nd thoughts for buying this. I CAN'T WIN!
@Anonymous sending it back. It wasn't what I wanted for the money. The resolution wasn't great for me. It had a tiny dot on the screen. I got the LG 27GP950 4k monitor. I'm very satisfied.
@@WestSeaSpirit thank you for this comment. it was useful for me, i am also planning to buy this because no other 4k monitor is in stock at the moment but after reading your comment, i might have seconds thoughts and might wait a little bit more for the monitors to get restocked
@@theSilentDude96 yes! I also did not want to wait. Do not rush. I was desperate after days of research and I settled for 1440p. My mistakes were, I bought it used. It had damaged pixel and the resolution was not not sharp enough and 240 hz was too much of an overkill.
What I have learned and what was perfect for me was, for 2 years I had an LG tv and it was perfect. So instead of chosing MSI, I should of stuck with a brand I knew I loved which was LG and I did get the LG 4k monitor with 144hz. The quality and boxing was vastly superior compared to MSI. This is my own opinion. My 4k LG monitor was not cheap by any means. I've spend like I think $830. You pay for what you get, if you are like me and want strong colors, a good refresh rate and an ultra sharp monitor, go with 4k. Do not go with 1080p. Do not go with 1440p. You will hate it.
I would like to hear an update from you.
Should I buy this monitor or the M28U for ps5 ? Any suggestions
These 28inch Monitors are unfortunately not appealing to a big part of potential customers.
Iam gaming for more than 20 years and on the PC, the optimal size is 24inch. The max you can go is 27inch, if you go higher than that then you can essentially forget competitive gaming and also get used to neck pain...
Iam 100% sure that the manufacturer of the new 28inch Panel knows that 27inch is better but i assume that the 28inch panel is cheaper for them to manufacture.
Quite sad tbh, i would like to buy one..
I can't seem to find a 24"-25" 1440p monitor which is just as sad
What do you guys think about this VS Sony's Inzone M9? I don't have enough tech knowledge to decide between these two \:
Thanks a lot bud.....can you kindly do a review for samsung g70A 28 inches 4k monitor next.....Thanks a tonn!!!
Man going through all these monitor reviews and I'm glad i got mine on sale i only have a 1440p but it was only 300 after tax for the asus tuf gaming monitor i got.
Tim you forgot to mention the biggest advantage of this monitor over the Gigabyte M28U..
swivel and pivot.
@Roenie's Gaming Empire oh I know, i have a monitor arm and it’s the most convenient thing on my desk. I was just mentioning it for memes
@Roenie Gaming That usually costs at least a hundred and something plus. Not everyone has the money to just spend a sixth or more of the monitor price on an arm for it when they already have a stand.
Which would be ideal to buy this or Aorus M28u/M32u?
LG 27GP950 review?
Great review! is also worth to mentioning this monitor claims to support full 10bit 4:4:4 chroma color with no compression with a full 48Gbps bandwidth but how can all these 4k monitors have ghosting when running games at 60fps? most games can only be run at 4k60fps heck Gotham knights can only run at 30fps. How can we enjoy a 4k monitor when ghosting is an issue at 60fps?
Still can't get decent info on the new panel on Benq MOBIUZ IPS EX2510S 165Hz , benq just evaded the question :/.
Hope you guys get a chance to cover it since i wanted to know if its worth paying extra for a bit of more speed or the panel is actually better than the old model.
someone just made a review with some initial measurements
th-cam.com/video/bvePNYGXKh4/w-d-xo.html
da you definitely know you stuff just amazing... im a lucky lad i got a 3080 and i play battlefield and cod ,, i was thinking a of a 4k monitor hence looking here but all my m8 say no as i will get approx 90/100 fps on a 4k ,, they say to buy a 240hz for being more competitive and to get more kills ect .. any advice if you were me and if you could pick any monitor from this date of writing this what would it be,, keep up the fantastic videos,, i will learn a lot thank you sir
which is better Gigabyte M28U or asus the video. the price is same but ?
GIGABYTE M28U 28 is currently not available/out of stock on both Amazon and Newegg
The ability to pivot this monitor over the M28U's fixed base is a major plus for me. I went from a 27" Dell which had it, to an MSI 27" curved display which didn't, then back to my current Dell 2716DG...I really missed being about adjust the monitor to match my position with the MSI monitor (as someone who often has my feet up on the desk when watching videos, leaning off to the side). As such this would probably swing me towards this over the M28U for this feature alone.
Hmm, I have th M32U and is the difference in overshoot really that noticable when gaming on a PS5 in 60 Hz? Somehow I would like to try again 28 inch. Has the Asus less overshoot than the M28U? Edit: Ah, okay they are pretty similar. Maybe even my Asus 4k 60 Hz MG28 something from 2016 is better with less overshoot at 60 Hz than these two.
@@flockelocke2297 your 2016 60hz monitor may have less % overshoot as it was specifically designed for that refresh rate. However, it will get nowhere near the average 5 ms response times of this panel at 60hz, even after adding overshoot times (which would take an extra 1-2 ms to stabilize).
@@gencoserpen1260 It's a TN panel and motion is incredible on it for such an old monitor (Asus MG28UQ) and I come from the M32U. Input lag isn't very good. I bought another 28 inch monitor the Acer Predator XB283KKV which is maybe the best out of all these 4K 144 Hz 28 inch monitors but it hasn't arrived. Hopefully it comes next week without pixel errors and not much bleed and glow. I will open the box very carefully just in case that I have to return it. 😄
@@flockelocke2297 I couldn't find the Acer in my country, only the M28U, the VG281UQL and the new Samsung LS28BG702. Early reports indicate this new Samsung 28" suffers from screen blackouts during VRR. Knowing Samsung I'm not expecting a firmware fix any time soon. Between the Gigabyte and Asus I'll probably go for the Asus. As a coder the ability to pivot the monitor to portrait mode looks attractive to me. The HDMI 2.1 ports on the Asus are also full 48 Gbps. Although I don't need HDMI right now its good for future proofing.
Hey, do you plan on making a review of the Acer Predator XB273UGX and lenovo legion y27gq-25?
Would be sooo nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I dont get all this gjigawats nerdy talk..is this a super good monitor to buy ?
Also seconding taking a look at the aorus fv43u; what's the point of all those pixels if the screen is so tiny!
can wait for PG32UQ (non X) review. 27-28 is too small. LG also has a 42" 120HZ OLED coming in early 2022 (CES) as well. supposed to be around $1k msrp
How do they say that's this monitor is 1ms GTG and your review says that it is 4.6ms GTG, I believe in your reviews more but is this consider misleading from ASUS?
Is this better than the lg ultragear 27GR93U
For gaming is a 4k 144hz monitor better then a 240hz monitor 1440p. What do you guys think.
Does g-sync work with this monitor over HDMI (2.1)?
The UFO Reference piece is brilliant! Thank you for the review!
please review the samsung g70a (guess it uses the same panel) but would love to hear what you think of it
Looks like I’ll be going with the Gigabyte m28u then, if I can actually manage to get ahold of one that is
Ugggg, Need them to come down under 400$ for this class, stupid 3080ti didn't leave nuff cash to replace as many of my screens as i would have liked.
@@ferdgerbeler8494 This is just for my Xbox so got a pretty penny to spend on it, the hard part is finding one in stock
Hello, I am french, i don't understand everything. I have bought this model and i had a problem, white is not white. When i launch google main page, it look like a mix of white and grey, have you got the same sensation ?
You should add a light bleed on all these tests. Some has a very bad situation and even allow rubbish to enter causing uncleanable marks.
The VG28uql is better than Gigabyte M28u because has USB and 4 HDMI also Displayport in total 5 way of conections
I def want 32 4k 144.. I have 32 4k 60.. I like it but man would love higher framerates
@@drunkhusband6257you think so ? May I ask what u feel are the advantages .. production and gaming wise.. cause I may take you up on exploring that option
Which is better this one or Gigabyte M28U?
I'd love a video on the best monitor for colour-blind people, me thinks the G7 due to the contrast?
goodday sir may i know if this monitor will run 1440p at high refreshrate?
Is the ghosting/overshoot at 60hz extremley noticeable when gaming ?
Most games on ps5 are 60hz thats the only thing what makes me insecure about using it with my ps5
I need the answer!!! 😂
Are both of those HDMI ports the same? Same capabilities?
Could you make a video of a tutorial on the best way to set the Asus up for gaming?
I bought VG28U due to other two reasons : built-in speaker, power consumption 30W which is far less than M28U 115W....in my country it is $140 more expensive than M28U
I have a question, did you order it from amazon and did you get a protection plan for it? it will be my first monitor so everything is new to me
What is better for gaming using Variable Overdrive or Elmb Sync on ? (Ps5?
Overdrive
Would love to see a review of lg 27gp950 with hdmi 2.1
I would like to see a review of the Gigabyte AORUS FO48U.
Sick of waiting for the LG 27GP950 in Canada. So it is either this or the M28U.
Definitely go for this one, I've tried this one and the Samsung G70A. The Samsung monitor had so many issues and after 3 replacements I went with the Asus model instead. I haven't had any issues with it so far.
You need to find out which game supports 10bit color if any. There is no info on it and we need to know.
Samsung G7 S28 VS this one ? which is better ?
Are you getting the PG32UQ?
Great Job on the review as always!