I wish monitor companies would come out with more HDMI 2.1 compatible monitors. We are nearly a year into the lifecycle of these next-gen consoles. Just give me an HDMI 2.1 monitor that does 4k 120hz with decent HDR.
@Rockafettpappa its limited to 4:2:0 chroma on the ps5 coz the hdmi 2.1 port only supports half the bandwidth (25gbps out of 45). i really wanted to get that monitor but thats a dealbreaker for me
@Rockafettpappa this ASUS PG320UQ is only couple $100(usd) more and you get way better picture quality for that extra $. It’s what I ordered after watching every review possible. M32U is what I was close to purchasing till I revisited them all again and every single review said the couple $100 extra for the p320uq was worth it, and to me, if you’re already dropping around $750usd on a monitor you might as well drop tiny bit more for a significantly better screen. I’ll also add up until recently M32U had a 9.5ms refresh rate while the ASUS had 4ms, which is significant (imo) However GB recently dropped a firmware update that dropped it down to 4.5ms.
I currently game on my Xbox Series X, with my Alienware monitor. (AW2721D) but I’m looking at getting the new Samsung Odyssey g7 (with hdmi 2.1). I also have a 4k60 40” tv, which I’m hoping to upgrade to a 4k120 tv with hdmi 2.1 soon (such as the LG CX OLED).
@@yorha2b278 Wrong. 4k 120hz requires hdmi 2.1. I have last years TCL 6 series with hdmi 2.0 and it runs 1440p at 120 hz. Do your research, HDMI 2.0 can do 1440p 120hz.
@@BLooDY3dd OK, don't be angry. You got daddy issues or something? Chill. I was trying to say 4K 120Hz, I deleted that response because you were looking at only 1440p. Chill man! Dude!!
Apparently Sony are still "monitoring the situation" - aka trying to sell you as many TVs while shitting all over owners of WQHD monitors. My Samsung CHG70 would be perfectly fine if PS5 had native 1440p
Most people make the omission that 120 hz even at 60fps that the Xbox Series X offers literally halves your input lag..... So yes 4k at 120Hz is a big deal even on games running at 30 or 60 fps
@@justdoinit2378 lol you realize there are 4k 120hz tvs? Seems like you didnt know somehow. We are talking about consoles not pcs where you wont ever get above 120fps.
@@yoltsbp of course I know about the TVs I have one as well! I’m just saying even my lg c1 isn’t what I prefer to play competitively on. I prefer the monitor n once the g7 4K 2.1 is available I’ll be scooping it up. If it takes too much longer then I’ll just get the Alienware monitor.
I use an older 144hz Samsung VA Monitor with my PS5, 120hz at 1080p works fine for now, but a 4k 144hz monitor might be the way I go as I have an RTX 3080 now too.
You would defiantly benefits. I have the monitor he had on the desk on the way after racking my brain for 2 days straight between ViewSonic, ASUS, Msi, and GB. M32U if you don’t mind sacrificing and saving the $100-$200 is significant to you, if 100-200 isn’t significant spend a little extra and get noticeable better colors/picture quality with the ASUS option.
Great video, you answered pretty much every question a person would have on this topic. I've been using a Samsung Odyssey G5, 32 inch monitor for my Series X. With 120Hz support, Freesync, 1440p and a nice curve at just $300 CND it was a great buy.
HEY SAME HERE! I GOT IT ON SALE FOR LIKE $320 to use on my series x, im quite happy. i do not think the hdmi 2.1 is worth it just yet as most new games dont support it or have limitations as he stated above, its just something that would be nice to have in the future,
For a TV media use maybe, but not if you need a monitor for reading text and doing actual work besides the occasional gaming. 4K 28" is perfect for me in that sense.
@@Deitz69 Easy bro, though I dont have the fun of playing with this alot of tech products, I still have my own fun of having one or two and enjoying them.
Perfect monitor BENQ EX2510 its 250 $ 1080 p 144hz and and supports a full 4k 60 fps. 1080 p 144hz vs 4k 144hz same shit. I have a lg nano cell 90 cant see much diff
Just purchased a 2k 140hz 27" monitor with HDMI 2.0 ports for $250 for standard desk/pc use and xbox gaming recently. Decided that 4k with hdmi 2.1 wasn't worth it for a small 27" used for desk and up close gaming. 2.1 is only needed for 4k gaming with 4k and higher resolutions at more 120hz or more. If I had to get a bigger display, or a big TV, I would definitely go for 4k with HDMI 2.1. Upgrading from 1080p 60hz, to 1440p 120hz was absolutely worth it for me at an affordable price point. Paying $500 + for a 4K 27" or lower monitor is a waste of money IMO.
Been playing on a 144hz monitor for like a year now. Mostly bought it for fortnite. While I think the high refresh does help a lot in competitive gaming, for regular use it’s not that big a difference. It’s definitely not a day and night feature as a lot of people make it out to be. VRR though I think is a feature most people would benefit of.
@@ItalionStallion1x competitive gaming meaning like what, mlg players? I always get confused with that term. I play online once in a blue but I play online very casually. I don't play online to play competitive. In fact I really don't enjoy it but when I'm not in the mood to play single player games I turn to online stuff. Such as Halo, RDR2 games like that just for fun
You might want to rethink that. If you have a ps5 hdmi 2.1 and amd sampler got ratchet and clank at 40fps instead of 30fps on graphics mode. This will be the standard moving forward.
I was just watching this same video you made 10 months ago. Lol so wild you actually did follow up with another video like you said you would. Kudos brother!
A lot of people didnt know the most important thing in a monitor is the headphone jack to connect the speaker coz 99.9% of their internal speaker sucks and asus rarely put headphone jack in their monitor and only microphone jack. So i think for this model the actual improvement is the headphone jack
5:15 I have been using a crucial X8 1TB drive for gaming storage on my Xbox One X for a while. It makes a world of difference to loading times since even through a USB 3.0 port, it is way faster than the internal storage in the system.
@@darksidefarmer I have not used one of the newest consoles so I am not sure. It is not going to be as fast as the internal storage or the expansion cards that microsoft sells.
HDR400 is not up to scratch. Would have to be at least HDR600 to tempt me. Until a similar spec monitor with that HDR (or better) standard comes out console gamers are better off sticking with a high quality TV (eg LG CX, C1, G1 etc).
Yeah agreed, I got a CX and it’s incredible and blows away my pc monitors. Seeing real HDR, none of this fake crap most monitors and cheap TVs do is something else. Oh and you get Dolby vision to boot.
Just a quick one. Would it be worthwhile upgrading my 1080p monitor to a 1440p monitor for now and then going for a hdmi 2.1 in the future. It is for a series x. Just feel a little underwhelmed with my current monitor not utilising the hardware, but I can afford a 4K hdmi 2.1 monitor. I just see a lot more value in the 1440p ones at the moment
I have the LG C1 48inch and I can say it's well worth the upgrade to 2.1hdmi. I think the age of playing on console on a tiny monitor is over that would be very difficult to see the benefits of 4K. The fact that no 2.1 monitor can compete in performance or visual effects of an C1 Oled.
Peter, I’m all for quality over performance and like something larger than a 32” monitor, the LG C1 sounds like the way forward, I mainly place racing games, and the occasional Tomb Raider and Uncharted type series, would you recommend the LG C1?
@@tommyhop100 if looking to play in 4K 120fps or even 4K 60fps nothing can compete performance wise with the LG C1. To play games on visually is amazing with the Oled screen.
Nice tv. I returned the 48 and bought the 55 inch C1. A little big, but great for watching movies and playing my series X on. Picking up my PS5 tomorrow 👍🏼
I think it will be 4 years before we see affordable 4k 120 hz hdmi 2.1 monitors/TVs with VRR and HDR (what a mouthful), and plenty of 120hz content in console games. Great review though, thanks for your insights!
I’ve bought a LG c1 55” to go with the series x recently and it’s the best purchase I’ve made in a long time. Looks amazing for movies and feels and looks smooth as butter in gaming
I was planning to get the 48 inch C1 but I’m worried about Burn-in and also electricity isn’t stable in my country so it would goes off a lot so I’m gonna get the Hisense U8G do you have any idea about how good is it?
Makes no sense, theres barely a single game that runs at an actual 4k 120fps on these consoles. Ive got a 3090 and can't get any recent AAA game to run at 4k120. I can do 4k60 locked at medium-high.
True and they are not cheap right now. The only reason i want a 4k 144 hz monitor is to be able to play 4k 120 hz on console and when I want to play competitive games i can switch to my laptop and play 1440p 144hz.
@Silverback Gamer Cyberpunk, ac Valhalla, red dead2, control run around 4k60 with 3090 and they're not even from 2021. I have 2 3090, 2 3070 a 1080ti and 5700xt for mining but use them for gaming so I know exactly what im talking about haha
What? This monitor has 4 HDMI inputs, namely 2 HDMI 2.1 inputs and 2 HDMI 2.0 inputs? I think I'll buy this monitor in a heartbeat, so I can hook up my PS5, Xbox Series X, Astro and Nintendo Switch with it! 👍
Just ordered an Acer Nitro XV282K monitor for the PS5, I think if anyone has the new console’s and is considering a new screen HDMI 2.1 is surely the way to go. Can’t wait to see how it looks 👍
@@elprofessor626 Yeah, its fantastic I absolutely love it! When looking at reviews online about this monitor, alot of issues like getting it to hdmi 2.1 etc but I just plugged the ps5 in and it was already setup and good to go. I wish every ps5 game could utilise the 4k + 120hz but on the selected games it has..is truly amazing 👍
Great video!!! Any idea when this will be available to the buy? And do you know what the pricing will be for the US? I have been interested in this monitor and been watching reviews and reading articles about it.
HDMI 2.1 is overkill right now for consoles. There are no true 4k/120 games on consoles. I’d recommend waiting until more games come out in the future that can possibly attempt to push 4k/120. You can run 1080/120 and 1440/120 via HDMI 2.0.
This is not a trivial question, and definitively there is more to it than meets the eye. With PS5 you really want to have a monitor that can do 4k60 and 1080p120 with 10bit color in the panel itself. No dithering needed, and this can be met with HDMI 2.0. The problem is that there are very few reasonably priced good panels available, regardless of 2.0 or 2.1. The Asus TUF, Gigabyte M28U etc. are good 2.1 options with more reasonable price, but they use 8bit panel, which I consider a limitation especially on 1080p where dithering is not as good. The LG 950 GN (2.0) and GP (2.10 both have the 10 bit panel to meet the spec, but are more expensive. Then there are some very expensive choices on top of these. In any case, I would only go for HDMI 2.1 versions, it is far more versatile than 2.0.
Awesome video !! I have a series x with a monitor but it's a 2.0 HDMI . Until now I wasn't sure if I was getting the full 120 hz because the refresh rate counter is always 120.
Now I know my what my Christmas present to myself is going to be 😎👌🏼 Awesome review! You really covered everything actually important, and straight to the point too.
To be honest 60fps gaming has ruined a lot of games I used to love on previous consoles so I want to hold onto the 60 and hold off on the 120 for a while longer.
I wouldn't worry, as the guy was touching on in the videos, 120fps isn't going to be the standard on this new gen of console, it's a novelty. As the new gen marches on and games get more demanding we'll probably be seeing even less games that support 120fps on console and those that do will certainly be tanking other features (HDR, resolution, ray tracing etc) to be able to push 120fps. 60fps has been and will always be the target frame rate for this gen. 120fps will probably be pushed for next gen by which point 2.1 hdmi monitors and TVs will be considerably cheaper.
I need a monitor for: -xbox series x gaming, -Mac usage, -at least 32" -comes with remote -would really love a blue light dimmer of some type -with the mac, the sound will be going through a set of external monitors and audio interface -I need a separate sound source for the xbox side. Doesn't have to be amazing, just better than stock monitor speakers. Does anyone have any ideas?
I agree that a better HDR screen is more important than 4K, but you say that it’s better to get a 1080P monitor with HDR support. It’s important to note that there are very few displays that are limited to 1080p and come with Good HDR performance, or even HDR whatsoever. Also, the Xbox itself does not support HDR at 1080P whatsoever, same goes with 1440P, as the Xbox defaults to HDMI 1.4a pipeline when using those resolutions, HDR is only available at 4K on Xbox consoles.
Good points there, but a good HDR tv needs to be at least 1000 nits for brightness. Also it's good to have HGIG tone mapping capable. It's a plus you don't want double tone mapping HDR. It will just create unnecessary input lag with console and TV tone mapping. Dynamic HDR is a bust for gaming unless you don't care about FPS or input lag.
@@predacon8257 100% I totally agree. 1000 nits is minimum for a good HDR experience, you’ll also want a 10-bit panel, that’s OLED or has some kind of localized dimming as that will allow it to reach great black levels around .005-.0005 nits, as well as 95% or greater DCI-P3 coverage. If it’s hitting 1000 nits then more often than not it will usually have these specs (these are the minimum requirements for HDR as set by the UHD alliance). Having HGIG is also something that’s needed for gaming, so that as you say it’s not double tone mapping. That’s the thing with HDR, when it’s good, it’s a bigger deal than 4K, but very few displays actually reach the required specs. Most displays people use are really “Budget” HDR displays, which is what I was talking about in the OP, there’s a zero percent chance you’ll find these HDR features on at least a consumer 1080P monitor.
Could you please make a video for best laptops for architects on the go? Something can run Adobe suite and auto cad smoothly yet still good looking nice and sleek options? This would be much appreciated if you consider it and would be even best before black Friday. I am interested in Asus duo or Microsoft book and hp elitepholio but not sure which one would be better a video in that regard for architects on the go would be much appreciated. Many thanks x
I don’t know exactly..I just got a Xbox series x and my monitor is 1440p (LG 850gl) do I need a 4K monitor for more beautiful screen advantage..if the price is good
@@clutcher96 I got the BenQ Ex2780q. Enjoying it quite a lot. Great picture quality and great built-in speakers. Only downside is the non hight adjustable stand.
If it's not HDR 10, can you adjust the brightness, contrast etc?. Or is it just generally more brighter and vibrant?. I have a 2.0 monitor and the HDR 10 is awful. It makes the colours pop but it's way too dark in dark scenes. You can't see certain objects like you should beable to. I don't have it on.
I think on a 27 - 28 inch monitor theres not much point upgrading from a 1440p monitor to 4k because its to small of a screen to notice a video quality difference and you get less fps as a result i think a common ground is pc gaming on 1440p or an ultrawide and console gaming on a 4k 120hz oled tv best of both worlds 👍
I see your point but wouldn’t it be more crispy if you had 4k 120 vs 1440p? More pixels and HDR. I have a 27” 1440p monitor with 144 hz and it looks really good but I’m saying screw it if I can get my hands on a 4k monitor i am going to do it lol
Ive just gone to a monitor set up from TV. I liked how you get £1000 TV specs for about £500. I went LG 27GP950 and its so crisp. Very pleased. Im a monitor convert now 😂
I'm hoping that Sony and Microsoft will release a mid generation version of their current console's in 2 or 3 years time,1440p at 120fps could be a possibility.
The Xbox series s is supposed to be a (not native)1440p 120fps console and the ps5 is more like a native 1440p 120fps console because of the worse performance compared to the series x
@@1BadVan yeah. These consoles aren’t even close to their full potentially. I believe when the Xbox mesh shaders and the ps5’s primitive shaders get used things will be mind blown
Just bought the Eve Spectrum 4K. For a PC gamer HDMI 2.1 monitors are absolutely worth it if you already have a high-end GPU and want to play at 4K and high refresh rates without chroma subsampling or using DSC. Being able to play at 4K 120Hz with full HDR and no compromises is amazing, and unlike consoles all games support 4K 120Hz because PC. :)
One thing I quite don’t understand is why not just get a cheap(ish) QLED or OLED TV instead of a monitor? It seems that a 32” 4K TV with 120Hz refresh rates etc. is a lot cheaper option. What am I missing here?
Great advice I'm just switching over from tv 56' 60fps to monitor AOC c27g 120fps with free sync. I chose budget version £180 from ebay. i play only warzone on PS5 i hope ill see noticeable difference in frames. :-)
Same. My TV is a little too small for my living room so I've been wanting to grab a monitor to play in my office until I upgrade my TV, but I don't think the HDMI 2.1 on a monitor is worth it for me.
@@Jaymv4s on my end I don't think I'll get a system able to push 4k 120fps anytime soon, so I'll stick to 1080p for now, maybe I might go to 1440p at a later stage if PS5 supports 1440p at some point
@@SaneManiac_MG I'm kind of torn right now between a 4k 60hz, or a 1080p 120hz right now at my price range. I don't really play a ton of games that I would need a 120hz display for. Currently eyeing the ASUS VG289Q.
You definitely tempted me to get an HDMI 2.1 monitor I had the a zoo Asus one that was 43 inches but the port was messed up and I'm looking for a better one now once I get the refund from Amazon have a great day my friend keep the good work up I'm also a TH-cam content
Sitting close to a monitor, it's really not worth it imho to get a 4k monitor. The price difference is pretty big between a 1440p and 4k monitors. This means you can get away with a 1440p monitor with 120+hz. Typically, between distance and size of the panel, will determine whether you'll even be able to notice the difference. I'd personally go with a 1440p 120+Hz monitor (pref with AMD freesymc) for a Series X. PS5, you would need to go the 4k route.
Everyone is talking only about the video aspect when connecting this monitor with next gen console like ps5, but what about audio?? It doesn't make sense to have great visuals but then have sub par audio. Does this monitor have digital audio out to preserve the audio fidelity? What speaker setup would you recommend when using this monitor with next gen consoles?
Yeah at the moment there isn't many games out there who can put out such specs but hopefully the game world and monitor world catches up soon to these consoles
You have tempted me Tom, can you answer a question… I’m running the PS5 and Xbox Series X off a expensive 2016 Samsung UHD 4k TV, it ticks all the boxes on the Series X with the exception of 4k at 120hz, however, playing Forza Horizon 5, which yes looks great, I can still see an issue with a faint white line around the tyres when at speed, something that isn’t an issue in Forza Horizon 4 or 3. So would upgrading my tv remedy this minor issue, it’s almost as if it’s a reflection issue, and more prominent in lighter colour cars such as white. I like my 40” Samsung but after watching your reviews I’m torn between a smaller screen (Gaming Monitor) or something larger like the LG C1, I don’t know what way to go 😝. Thanks. Tommy
Personally depends if you’re a living room gamer or room gamer. However this doesn’t apply for competitive gamers, if you play competitive, yea you should consider getting one.
How many games do we really think are going to be AAA budget maintaining at 4K 120 frames? I bet you it’s the same struggle as last gen only this time they struggle to keep 60 frames instead of 30.
Something I notice nobody says about with most 1440p monitors is that it'll take a 4k 60hz image and down sample it into a 1440p image. So technically most 1440p monitors will display 1440p on ps5 and is a great work around until it supports it natively later this year. And of course you can still play 120fps games at 1080p on it. The fact you can get a 1440p 120hz+ monitor for about half the price of a 4k 120hz+ monitor I really don't know why you'd spend the extra money especially with as you said most 120 games don't hit 4k but I'd bet a lot of them will be 1440p 120hz when the update comes as is the case with series x already
A 2K monitor(IPS) / 144 FPS is a wonderful spot for gaming such as the Gigabit 32 inch. I also own a 4k monitor and i can't tell the difference with the picture quality comparing to the 2K.
I wish monitor companies would come out with more HDMI 2.1 compatible monitors. We are nearly a year into the lifecycle of these next-gen consoles. Just give me an HDMI 2.1 monitor that does 4k 120hz with decent HDR.
@Rockafettpappa Fr it’s soo good
@Rockafettpappa its limited to 4:2:0 chroma on the ps5 coz the hdmi 2.1 port only supports half the bandwidth (25gbps out of 45). i really wanted to get that monitor but thats a dealbreaker for me
Got mines yesterday
@Rockafettpappa this ASUS PG320UQ is only couple $100(usd) more and you get way better picture quality for that extra $. It’s what I ordered after watching every review possible. M32U is what I was close to purchasing till I revisited them all again and every single review said the couple $100 extra for the p320uq was worth it, and to me, if you’re already dropping around $750usd on a monitor you might as well drop tiny bit more for a significantly better screen. I’ll also add up until recently M32U had a 9.5ms refresh rate while the ASUS had 4ms, which is significant (imo) However GB recently dropped a firmware update that dropped it down to 4.5ms.
@@hamwallet7069 But @Rockafettpappa is talking about the M28U and this one has a 1ms reactiontime…
Hey Chaps! What's your current gaming setup? (Playstation Xbox? TV or Monitor?)
Also apologies for slight editing hiccup at 1:12
I have 32" Vizio 720p my XboxSeries S allowed have 120hz on my new TV I got recently I like it way better than those off brand TV sets 😀
gotta say Tom, i really don't understand why people feel the need for more than 1440p especially 32'' or smaller, it is MORE than sufficient!
Ps5 and a tv thanking about upgrading my tv but it’s so expensive
I currently game on my Xbox Series X, with my Alienware monitor. (AW2721D) but I’m looking at getting the new Samsung Odyssey g7 (with hdmi 2.1).
I also have a 4k60 40” tv, which I’m hoping to upgrade to a 4k120 tv with hdmi 2.1 soon (such as the LG CX OLED).
Xbox SX and PS5 with a Dell S2721DGF (1440p 165Hz Freesync HDR 400 support )
I’m a casual console gamer. I play maybe 10 to 15 hours per week at most. 60 hz with proper hdr and a decent input lag is good enough for me.
We dont need a 2.1 hdmi monitor. We only need 1440p 120 hz support on PS5.
@@yorha2b278 Wrong. 4k 120hz requires hdmi 2.1. I have last years TCL 6 series with hdmi 2.0 and it runs 1440p at 120 hz. Do your research, HDMI 2.0 can do 1440p 120hz.
@@BLooDY3dd OK, don't be angry. You got daddy issues or something? Chill. I was trying to say 4K 120Hz, I deleted that response because you were looking at only 1440p. Chill man! Dude!!
@@yorha2b278 Wtf? Im not angry 😂 and nobody is talking about 4k 120hz here
@@BLooDY3dd I have explained that. Hope your daddy is treating you well. Don't be angry. Chill!
Apparently Sony are still "monitoring the situation" - aka trying to sell you as many TVs while shitting all over owners of WQHD monitors. My Samsung CHG70 would be perfectly fine if PS5 had native 1440p
Most people make the omission that 120 hz even at 60fps that the Xbox Series X offers literally halves your input lag.....
So yes 4k at 120Hz is a big deal even on games running at 30 or 60 fps
Also 40fps modes
Yes because the render time for each frame is much less so the tv updates your input faster.
@@yoltsbp tv? If u play competitively u need to get off of a tv!!
@@justdoinit2378 lol you realize there are 4k 120hz tvs? Seems like you didnt know somehow. We are talking about consoles not pcs where you wont ever get above 120fps.
@@yoltsbp of course I know about the TVs I have one as well! I’m just saying even my lg c1 isn’t what I prefer to play competitively on. I prefer the monitor n once the g7 4K 2.1 is available I’ll be scooping it up. If it takes too much longer then I’ll just get the Alienware monitor.
I use an older 144hz Samsung VA Monitor with my PS5, 120hz at 1080p works fine for now, but a 4k 144hz monitor might be the way I go as I have an RTX 3080 now too.
You would defiantly benefits. I have the monitor he had on the desk on the way after racking my brain for 2 days straight between ViewSonic, ASUS, Msi, and GB. M32U if you don’t mind sacrificing and saving the $100-$200 is significant to you, if 100-200 isn’t significant spend a little extra and get noticeable better colors/picture quality with the ASUS option.
Great video, you answered pretty much every question a person would have on this topic. I've been using a Samsung Odyssey G5, 32 inch monitor for my Series X. With 120Hz support, Freesync, 1440p and a nice curve at just $300 CND it was a great buy.
HEY SAME HERE! I GOT IT ON SALE FOR LIKE $320 to use on my series x, im quite happy. i do not think the hdmi 2.1 is worth it just yet as most new games dont support it or have limitations as he stated above, its just something that would be nice to have in the future,
I don't find the list of 120fps games! Where is it?
Yeah I've been doing the same, but with the 27 inch model. It's just nice to have 120hz overall and at that size 4k isn't that important
@@xtrasweet8890 would it be good for ps5?
What about the g7?
You literally explained so much in so little and for that I am grateful! Thanks for sharing!
I would say 4K needs a bigger screen 32” and up.
Exacly
For a TV media use maybe, but not if you need a monitor for reading text and doing actual work besides the occasional gaming. 4K 28" is perfect for me in that sense.
Nah the smaller the screen the more clear it looks
Every review of the PG27UQ proves my point. It’s too small for 4k.
@@soggmeisterlasagnagarfield 4K already looks crystal clear on my 65”. Now with 4K checkerboard and 1440p smaller would be better.
Me knowing that even the OG Xbox One from 2013 supports Variable Refresh Rate but not the PS5 which came from a company that makes top tier TV's
Sony’s TV’s are hardly top tier anymore.
@@TheCrazeturk yeah that’s true, I don’t hear anybody really talking about Sony TVs anymore, it’s all about LG rn
Since my eyes notice zero difference between 60fps and 120fps, I'll stick with the console that has games.
@@crown_vic3759 samsung too
@@mog_3825 wait, you were that ps fanboy in another comment section I saw. Lol
Yea $1000 monitor isn't what everyone considered, "affordable."
Not all of them, I got mine for 600$ and a 4K 120hz tv from lg for 550$ last Black Friday. There are a lot under 1k you just have to look
That's why I say relatively. It's definitely expensive
@@Thetechchapvrr been on the Xbox one x and one s
for a little bit more you can get the LG C1 OLED, the beast!
@@quicksilverpr2001 nah it ain’t “a little bit more” it cost 3 times the price of my tv and monitor 😂
4K 120hz monitors look amazing. Can’t wait for prices to drop & starts becoming common in the market.
@Mr30plus how long until price drops do you think?
@@itshenry2176 2 years
got the lg c1 for 1000€ :D
@@saschko9122 nice ! How’s it running so far ?
@@itshenry2176 within the next 2 years my friend told me. Most these games on console aren’t running 120 anyways
if I had the money, I would also have such fun
Then do something about it! You got this
@@Deitz69 Easy bro, though I dont have the fun of playing with this alot of tech products, I still have my own fun of having one or two and enjoying them.
@@TricycleRaider good for you!
Me too man, bills suck
Perfect monitor BENQ EX2510 its 250 $ 1080 p 144hz and and supports a full 4k 60 fps. 1080 p 144hz vs 4k 144hz same shit. I have a lg nano cell 90 cant see much diff
Mate… I can’t even keep up with what’s good anymore! I just play a game like… I play a game. I dunno.
IT LOOKS GOOD!
Just purchased a 2k 140hz 27" monitor with HDMI 2.0 ports for $250 for standard desk/pc use and xbox gaming recently. Decided that 4k with hdmi 2.1 wasn't worth it for a small 27" used for desk and up close gaming. 2.1 is only needed for 4k gaming with 4k and higher resolutions at more 120hz or more. If I had to get a bigger display, or a big TV, I would definitely go for 4k with HDMI 2.1. Upgrading from 1080p 60hz, to 1440p 120hz was absolutely worth it for me at an affordable price point. Paying $500 + for a 4K 27" or lower monitor is a waste of money IMO.
Been playing on a 144hz monitor for like a year now. Mostly bought it for fortnite. While I think the high refresh does help a lot in competitive gaming, for regular use it’s not that big a difference. It’s definitely not a day and night feature as a lot of people make it out to be. VRR though I think is a feature most people would benefit of.
For competitive gaming 144hz vs 60hz is a day and night difference
@@ItalionStallion1x competitive gaming meaning like what, mlg players?
I always get confused with that term. I play online once in a blue but I play online very casually. I don't play online to play competitive. In fact I really don't enjoy it but when I'm not in the mood to play single player games I turn to online stuff. Such as Halo, RDR2 games like that just for fun
You’re clearly just used to it dude lmao go back to 60hz and talk to me
Wait so I can buy a 144 hz without HDMI 2.1 HDMI and still play with 120 FPS?
@@xsolveeyes, you can play at that 120 hz, but VRR is so you dont get tearing.
I want both 4K for imagine sharpness and 120hz for the games that supports that. But damn the monitors with both 4k 120hz with HDMI 2.1 is not cheap
Really helpful. Convinced me that this not an upgrade that I need. Thank you.
You might want to rethink that. If you have a ps5 hdmi 2.1 and amd sampler got ratchet and clank at 40fps instead of 30fps on graphics mode. This will be the standard moving forward.
Great video but maybe you could give us more details about the monitor itself and about using it with a PC?
I was just watching this same video you made 10 months ago. Lol so wild you actually did follow up with another video like you said you would. Kudos brother!
A lot of people didnt know the most important thing in a monitor is the headphone jack to connect the speaker coz 99.9% of their internal speaker sucks and asus rarely put headphone jack in their monitor and only microphone jack. So i think for this model the actual improvement is the headphone jack
5:15 I have been using a crucial X8 1TB drive for gaming storage on my Xbox One X for a while. It makes a world of difference to loading times since even through a USB 3.0 port, it is way faster than the internal storage in the system.
I guess it still won't play x/s optimised games that have to play from the internal though?
@@darksidefarmer I have not used one of the newest consoles so I am not sure. It is not going to be as fast as the internal storage or the expansion cards that microsoft sells.
@@Piketom1 Thanks, my mistake - I read you comment and thought it said Xbox series X
@@darksidefarmer blame MS for confusing naming
SSD and a Sabrient 3.1 cable for that quick resume
HDR400 is not up to scratch. Would have to be at least HDR600 to tempt me. Until a similar spec monitor with that HDR (or better) standard comes out console gamers are better off sticking with a high quality TV (eg LG CX, C1, G1 etc).
Yeah agreed, I got a CX and it’s incredible and blows away my pc monitors. Seeing real HDR, none of this fake crap most monitors and cheap TVs do is something else. Oh and you get Dolby vision to boot.
@@V1CT1MIZED Yes but the response time and input lag is high compared to a monitor when playing competitive games...
what lol those tv are way more expensive than these monitor
Honestly, I just want ps5 to support 1440p. I love the idea of 4k for my pc, but higher fps is more a priority than resolution.
Just get a Xbox series X it's much better
@@MotoCampAdv how are you still saying that after the PlayStation showcase event
@@enzada-nino1562 no VRR , no 1440p, uses customer to beta test/ R&D M.2 SSD , do I need to continue?
@@enzada-nino1562 runs hot , already has been replaced by an updated console , way over priced and over valued . It's garbage
@@MotoCampAdv the” updated” console was actually to reduce hardware costs lol, it lowered the size of the cooler
the upgrade is now out for ps5 to use 1440 resolution
Currently using 1080p 120hz monitor for my Xbox Series X.
What monitor?
Just a quick one. Would it be worthwhile upgrading my 1080p monitor to a 1440p monitor for now and then going for a hdmi 2.1 in the future. It is for a series x. Just feel a little underwhelmed with my current monitor not utilising the hardware, but I can afford a 4K hdmi 2.1 monitor. I just see a lot more value in the 1440p ones at the moment
Good question
There is actually quite a few 120fps xbox series x games. At least 30 games support it through fps boost, patch, or multi-player modes.
I have the LG C1 48inch and I can say it's well worth the upgrade to 2.1hdmi. I think the age of playing on console on a tiny monitor is over that would be very difficult to see the benefits of 4K. The fact that no 2.1 monitor can compete in performance or visual effects of an C1 Oled.
Peter, I’m all for quality over performance and like something larger than a 32” monitor, the LG C1 sounds like the way forward, I mainly place racing games, and the occasional Tomb Raider and Uncharted type series, would you recommend the LG C1?
@@tommyhop100 if looking to play in 4K 120fps or even 4K 60fps nothing can compete performance wise with the LG C1. To play games on visually is amazing with the Oled screen.
Nice tv. I returned the 48 and bought the 55 inch C1. A little big, but great for watching movies and playing my series X on. Picking up my PS5 tomorrow 👍🏼
@@grifda actuallySony XR A80j or A90j are better than C1 but they cost more
@@tomaszstarzZz for watching movies yes but for gaming, definitely not. VRR on Sony is a major issue for a start.
I think it will be 4 years before we see affordable 4k 120 hz hdmi 2.1 monitors/TVs with VRR and HDR (what a mouthful), and plenty of 120hz content in console games. Great review though, thanks for your insights!
2024 -400€ for 32“ ips 4k 144hz
PlayStation 5 now supports 4k at 120hz with this monitor right?
I’ve bought a LG c1 55” to go with the series x recently and it’s the best purchase I’ve made in a long time. Looks amazing for movies and feels and looks smooth as butter in gaming
I was planning to get the 48 inch C1 but I’m worried about Burn-in and also electricity isn’t stable in my country so it would goes off a lot so I’m gonna get the Hisense U8G do you have any idea about how good is it?
I bought a HDMI 2.1 50" tv recently and I'm really glad. Already seen some spectacles while testing and glad I'm future proofed.
Philips tv ?
@@amirnazhan Sony actually
I really need help with finding a monitor that is affordable that supports VRR & HDR w/ 120 hz.
Thankfully the series x can output 1440p at 120 frames over hdmi 2.0.
does that work for series s also?
@@sixklip series s only has 1080 I believe
@@i_amChrisJxmes nah 1440p for series s, and can upscale to 4k
@@a38w didn't know it could do 1440 so I was wrong on that but upscaled 4k isn't real 4k
@@i_amChrisJxmes Yea, but that does not really matter cause even the X has its limitations.
You should review one of the new Philips line ups, those worked with Microsoft and got the Xbox series X label of approval, with Ambiglow included :)
Makes no sense, theres barely a single game that runs at an actual 4k 120fps on these consoles. Ive got a 3090 and can't get any recent AAA game to run at 4k120. I can do 4k60 locked at medium-high.
True and they are not cheap right now.
The only reason i want a 4k 144 hz monitor is to be able to play 4k 120 hz on console and when I want to play competitive games i can switch to my laptop and play 1440p 144hz.
@Silverback Gamer Cyberpunk, ac Valhalla, red dead2, control run around 4k60 with 3090 and they're not even from 2021. I have 2 3090, 2 3070 a 1080ti and 5700xt for mining but use them for gaming so I know exactly what im talking about haha
I got a curved 27in monitor that does 165hz.. it's only 1080 p but most games don't do 4k 120 so tbh I don't mind and it still looks great.
What? This monitor has 4 HDMI inputs, namely 2 HDMI 2.1 inputs and 2 HDMI 2.0 inputs? I think I'll buy this monitor in a heartbeat, so I can hook up my PS5, Xbox Series X, Astro and Nintendo Switch with it! 👍
Just ordered an Acer Nitro XV282K monitor for the PS5, I think if anyone has the new console’s and is considering a new screen HDMI 2.1 is surely the way to go. Can’t wait to see how it looks 👍
I just ordered this as well. Have you got yours yet? I'm on ps5 aswell, mainly a warzone player
@@elprofessor626 Yeah, its fantastic I absolutely love it! When looking at reviews online about this monitor, alot of issues like getting it to hdmi 2.1 etc but I just plugged the ps5 in and it was already setup and good to go. I wish every ps5 game could utilise the 4k + 120hz but on the selected games it has..is truly amazing 👍
@@EquazR thanks for the info. How much did you get yours for?
@@elprofessor626 No worries, about £400-500..ENJOY!!
Great video!!! Any idea when this will be available to the buy? And do you know what the pricing will be for the US? I have been interested in this monitor and been watching reviews and reading articles about it.
HDMI 2.1 is overkill right now for consoles. There are no true 4k/120 games on consoles. I’d recommend waiting until more games come out in the future that can possibly attempt to push 4k/120. You can run 1080/120 and 1440/120 via HDMI 2.0.
Neither of them can handle true 4k 120fps. Maybe mid fresh of them will
This is not a trivial question, and definitively there is more to it than meets the eye. With PS5 you really want to have a monitor that can do 4k60 and 1080p120 with 10bit color in the panel itself. No dithering needed, and this can be met with HDMI 2.0. The problem is that there are very few reasonably priced good panels available, regardless of 2.0 or 2.1. The Asus TUF, Gigabyte M28U etc. are good 2.1 options with more reasonable price, but they use 8bit panel, which I consider a limitation especially on 1080p where dithering is not as good. The LG 950 GN (2.0) and GP (2.10 both have the 10 bit panel to meet the spec, but are more expensive. Then there are some very expensive choices on top of these. In any case, I would only go for HDMI 2.1 versions, it is far more versatile than 2.0.
"With PS5 you really want to have a monitor that can do 4k60"...ehhh you mean 4K@120!
ASUS pg320uq is 10bit I’m pretty sure
Awesome video !! I have a series x with a monitor but it's a 2.0 HDMI . Until now I wasn't sure if I was getting the full 120 hz because the refresh rate counter is always 120.
This answered a lot of questions for what I need for my Xbox series x and Samsung odyssey g9! Thanks a lot!
Very informative, helped me decide to wait it out
Now I know my what my Christmas present to myself is going to be 😎👌🏼 Awesome review! You really covered everything actually important, and straight to the point too.
To be honest 60fps gaming has ruined a lot of games I used to love on previous consoles so I want to hold onto the 60 and hold off on the 120 for a while longer.
I wouldn't worry, as the guy was touching on in the videos, 120fps isn't going to be the standard on this new gen of console, it's a novelty. As the new gen marches on and games get more demanding we'll probably be seeing even less games that support 120fps on console and those that do will certainly be tanking other features (HDR, resolution, ray tracing etc) to be able to push 120fps.
60fps has been and will always be the target frame rate for this gen. 120fps will probably be pushed for next gen by which point 2.1 hdmi monitors and TVs will be considerably cheaper.
Lots of games will support 120hz bro as it ages it will go from 4K 120 to 2K and than 1080p 120hz but 120 will be easily supported
Just got Acer Nitro XV282K 28 Inch 144Hz UHD Gaming Monitor for £400, I think that's the best on the market for that price. Absolute bargain
I need a monitor for:
-xbox series x gaming,
-Mac usage,
-at least 32"
-comes with remote
-would really love a blue light dimmer of some type
-with the mac, the sound will be going through a set of external monitors and audio interface
-I need a separate sound source for the xbox side. Doesn't have to be amazing, just better than stock monitor speakers.
Does anyone have any ideas?
48" LG OLED
Mac usage. What about the cheese added?
This video was so informative. Thank you
I agree that a better HDR screen is more important than 4K, but you say that it’s better to get a 1080P monitor with HDR support. It’s important to note that there are very few displays that are limited to 1080p and come with Good HDR performance, or even HDR whatsoever.
Also, the Xbox itself does not support HDR at 1080P whatsoever, same goes with 1440P, as the Xbox defaults to HDMI 1.4a pipeline when using those resolutions, HDR is only available at 4K on Xbox consoles.
Good points there, but a good HDR tv needs to be at least 1000 nits for brightness. Also it's good to have HGIG tone mapping capable. It's a plus you don't want double tone mapping HDR. It will just create unnecessary input lag with console and TV tone mapping. Dynamic HDR is a bust for gaming unless you don't care about FPS or input lag.
@@predacon8257 100% I totally agree. 1000 nits is minimum for a good HDR experience, you’ll also want a 10-bit panel, that’s OLED or has some kind of localized dimming as that will allow it to reach great black levels around .005-.0005 nits, as well as 95% or greater DCI-P3 coverage. If it’s hitting 1000 nits then more often than not it will usually have these specs (these are the minimum requirements for HDR as set by the UHD alliance). Having HGIG is also something that’s needed for gaming, so that as you say it’s not double tone mapping.
That’s the thing with HDR, when it’s good, it’s a bigger deal than 4K, but very few displays actually reach the required specs. Most displays people use are really “Budget” HDR displays, which is what I was talking about in the OP, there’s a zero percent chance you’ll find these HDR features on at least a consumer 1080P monitor.
Could you please make a video for best laptops for architects on the go? Something can run Adobe suite and auto cad smoothly yet still good looking nice and sleek options? This would be much appreciated if you consider it and would be even best before black Friday. I am interested in Asus duo or Microsoft book and hp elitepholio but not sure which one would be better a video in that regard for architects on the go would be much appreciated. Many thanks x
Bro I was just watching the release add for this thanks
I don’t know exactly..I just got a Xbox series x and my monitor is 1440p (LG 850gl) do I need a 4K monitor for more beautiful screen advantage..if the price is good
Went with a 1440p 144hz monitor for my series x. Good middle ground in my opinion, also much more affordable.
Could u recommend 1
@@clutcher96 I got the BenQ Ex2780q. Enjoying it quite a lot. Great picture quality and great built-in speakers. Only downside is the non hight adjustable stand.
@@clutcher96 BenQ MOBIUZ EX2710Q 27
If it's not HDR 10, can you adjust the brightness, contrast etc?. Or is it just generally more brighter and vibrant?.
I have a 2.0 monitor and the HDR 10 is awful. It makes the colours pop but it's way too dark in dark scenes. You can't see certain objects like you should beable to. I don't have it on.
LG UltraGear 27GP950 is widely available for ~£499. Might be coming into many people's budgets now
Yuck, Ips glow. 2160 pixels on such a small 27 screen? 42inch 4k has 102 ppi, sharp. Why would anyone waste those pixels on a tiny display?
Very good info mate.
I like your seat, where did you get this one?
1440 output cant do HDR on Xbox...thats why its important 2.1 for 4K 120hz
I think on a 27 - 28 inch monitor theres not much point upgrading from a 1440p monitor to 4k because its to small of a screen to notice a video quality difference and you get less fps as a result i think a common ground is pc gaming on 1440p or an ultrawide and console gaming on a 4k 120hz oled tv best of both worlds 👍
I see your point but wouldn’t it be more crispy if you had 4k 120 vs 1440p? More pixels and HDR. I have a 27” 1440p monitor with 144 hz and it looks really good but I’m saying screw it if I can get my hands on a 4k monitor i am going to do it lol
Ive just gone to a monitor set up from TV. I liked how you get £1000 TV specs for about £500. I went LG 27GP950 and its so crisp. Very pleased. Im a monitor convert now 😂
When will 32” HDMI 2.1 curved 16:9 monitors get released?
I'm hoping that Sony and Microsoft will release a mid generation version of their current console's in 2 or 3 years time,1440p at 120fps could be a possibility.
The Xbox series s is supposed to be a (not native)1440p 120fps console and the ps5 is more like a native 1440p 120fps console because of the worse performance compared to the series x
The series x already does that
@@1BadVan yeah. These consoles aren’t even close to their full potentially. I believe when the Xbox mesh shaders and the ps5’s primitive shaders get used things will be mind blown
You need your head checked if your still promoting Sony LoL
@@JJ-fk5ys PlayStation still is way more popular outside the US
Specially in europe and asia.
Just bought the Eve Spectrum 4K. For a PC gamer HDMI 2.1 monitors are absolutely worth it if you already have a high-end GPU and want to play at 4K and high refresh rates without chroma subsampling or using DSC. Being able to play at 4K 120Hz with full HDR and no compromises is amazing, and unlike consoles all games support 4K 120Hz because PC. :)
2:46 - so glad you said this. The amount of people that think a £450 console is running NATIVE 4K at 120hz is astounding.
One thing I quite don’t understand is why not just get a cheap(ish) QLED or OLED TV instead of a monitor? It seems that a 32” 4K TV with 120Hz refresh rates etc. is a lot cheaper option. What am I missing here?
well I'm watching this for the game footage ... to see how new games look like under extreme graphics quality in the new consoles ! :D
Great advice I'm just switching over from tv 56' 60fps to monitor AOC c27g 120fps with free sync. I chose budget version £180 from ebay. i play only warzone on PS5 i hope ill see noticeable difference in frames. :-)
How is the difference if I may ask. Is it worth upgrading to 120fps? Never tried it.
You've convinced me it's not worth it yet, this whole PS5 VRR support thing got me researching stuff now
Same. My TV is a little too small for my living room so I've been wanting to grab a monitor to play in my office until I upgrade my TV, but I don't think the HDMI 2.1 on a monitor is worth it for me.
@@Jaymv4s on my end I don't think I'll get a system able to push 4k 120fps anytime soon, so I'll stick to 1080p for now, maybe I might go to 1440p at a later stage if PS5 supports 1440p at some point
@@SaneManiac_MG I'm kind of torn right now between a 4k 60hz, or a 1080p 120hz right now at my price range. I don't really play a ton of games that I would need a 120hz display for. Currently eyeing the ASUS VG289Q.
@@Jaymv4s I've went with the LG 27GN650-B, hopefully it serves me well, I'm switching from a TV to a high refresh rate monitor
You definitely tempted me to get an HDMI 2.1 monitor I had the a zoo Asus one that was 43 inches but the port was messed up and I'm looking for a better one now once I get the refund from Amazon have a great day my friend keep the good work up I'm also a TH-cam content
I went on the ASUS website and they don’t list the price for that monitor?
Right, and I couldn’t find info on it anywhere else
Hey. Whats the name of the game at 7:54 ?
The most informative video about 2.1 monitors for consoles! thank you
I like how you show the built in Xbox 4k support checker
Sitting close to a monitor, it's really not worth it imho to get a 4k monitor. The price difference is pretty big between a 1440p and 4k monitors. This means you can get away with a 1440p monitor with 120+hz. Typically, between distance and size of the panel, will determine whether you'll even be able to notice the difference.
I'd personally go with a 1440p 120+Hz monitor (pref with AMD freesymc) for a Series X. PS5, you would need to go the 4k route.
Great review! I agree Tainty Pee > 4K 120 at this stage in the game. Hope costs will start to come down soon.
thank you for your reviews
I didn't understand a thing but cool video😁
Everyone is talking only about the video aspect when connecting this monitor with next gen console like ps5, but what about audio?? It doesn't make sense to have great visuals but then have sub par audio. Does this monitor have digital audio out to preserve the audio fidelity? What speaker setup would you recommend when using this monitor with next gen consoles?
Yeah at the moment there isn't many games out there who can put out such specs but hopefully the game world and monitor world catches up soon to these consoles
Thanks Sooooo much! Great information!
For an RTX 3080 is it good Monitor or what do you consider good to buy like Brands
Do you have any idea of a release date for this?
And have you had the chance to try the ROG Swift PG32UQ?
Would you suggest any other monitor that’s good for the next gen consoles that is budget wise
You have tempted me Tom, can you answer a question… I’m running the PS5 and Xbox Series X off a expensive 2016 Samsung UHD 4k TV, it ticks all the boxes on the Series X with the exception of 4k at 120hz, however, playing Forza Horizon 5, which yes looks great, I can still see an issue with a faint white line around the tyres when at speed, something that isn’t an issue in Forza Horizon 4 or 3. So would upgrading my tv remedy this minor issue, it’s almost as if it’s a reflection issue, and more prominent in lighter colour cars such as white. I like my 40” Samsung but after watching your reviews I’m torn between a smaller screen (Gaming Monitor) or something larger like the LG C1, I don’t know what way to go 😝. Thanks. Tommy
Excellent review 👍🔥
So can I just stick with buying a normal HDMI gaming monitor and still receive the benefits of 120 hz on an xbox even if its 1080?
Which 2.1 hdmi 24.5 inch monitor is recommended to buy?
Personally depends if you’re a living room gamer or room gamer. However this doesn’t apply for competitive gamers, if you play competitive, yea you should consider getting one.
but at that point a pc makes more sense
Any plans to review the Gigabyte M28u ? It’s 4K 120hz 2.1hdmi and is a cheaper option than the Asus
How many games do we really think are going to be AAA budget maintaining at 4K 120 frames? I bet you it’s the same struggle as last gen only this time they struggle to keep 60 frames instead of 30.
From my understanding is you pick either 4k or 120hz @ 1080p
I decided to get a MSI
MAG 274UPF
Dunno if its any good but its 2.1 and was on a good deal.
Thanks for the information
Something I notice nobody says about with most 1440p monitors is that it'll take a 4k 60hz image and down sample it into a 1440p image. So technically most 1440p monitors will display 1440p on ps5 and is a great work around until it supports it natively later this year. And of course you can still play 120fps games at 1080p on it. The fact you can get a 1440p 120hz+ monitor for about half the price of a 4k 120hz+ monitor I really don't know why you'd spend the extra money especially with as you said most 120 games don't hit 4k but I'd bet a lot of them will be 1440p 120hz when the update comes as is the case with series x already
Nice video!
What’s the best 4K hdmi 2.1 gaming monitor for competitive first person shooting games on a ps5
Only if you want to play 4k 120 fps but what games support that?
A 2K monitor(IPS) / 144 FPS is a wonderful spot for gaming such as the Gigabit 32 inch.
I also own a 4k monitor and i can't tell the difference with the picture quality comparing to the 2K.
Well nearly everyone else can???
@@enzada-nino1562 lol
What lmao