How to make a TV WINDOW look REAL
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00:00 Intro
01:30 The Build
04:14 How we lit the window
07:10 Camera Setup
08:11 Change it up
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This was beautifully shot. Well done as always. Love how much information you guys share. I hope you don't keep growing and nobody subscribes.
I expected this to be a collab with Potato!
lol same
Waiting for that to happen soon
I agree lol 😝
the way the brick backdrop shot cleverly blended with the screen was very convincing. looked like you were in a large space
it blended so well, might have well just used 2 backdrops. instead of this whole rigamaroll. using video on the tv will set it apart, not this.
The fact that the curtain in the room and the buildings "outside the window" have the same degree of out-of-focus blur could be a give away. I would consider blurring the image from the TV's a little to add blur to the "outside the window buildings" as opposed to the elements inside the room which is supposed to be much closer and a little more in focus.
Great work! If you blurred the image on the screens a little you would create a depth blur separation between the view and the window frame making it more realistic. I'd also up the exposure for the screens a little on the daytime shots and also the Amaran T4c a bit brighter. Just my opinion, it's an awesome job!
Love the lighting breakdown. The use of TV's as "windows" is great, nothing like the ability to quickly change the background and not have to deal with lighting changes as the day progresses.
It’s true the consistency is nice
One big advantage that I notice here is that you would not need nearly as powerful of lights to pull this off because you wouldn’t have to battle the brightness of the exterior. Like the video mentioned, you only had to have that 600 D at 2.3% and you could 100% pull this off with a key light 1/4 the size and power.
I didn't need to watch this video, but this was cool, so I stayed the whole way through. I liked the night time setup and the first daytime.
Whiskey - Tango - Foxtrot?! 😱
This is mind-blowing!
Awesome video guys!! So cool and helpful, thank you. The final shots looked great!
The Night scene was my fav. It would be cool to play with parallax in the tvs more for things like the slider shot, animated it to move counter to the slide and have it play back from resolve as youve set it up... a poor man's "void" Unreal engine setup... ha.
I love the 2nd setup, you nailed the perspective. The brick wall very convincingly continues past the "window"
@EpicLightMedia I made the same setup with an Ultra Short Throw projector would love you guys to see it 😉
Very cool. My favorite was the last one with the brick backdrop. Day or night works.
Very good job. The day we have displays that change with the angle of vision we will enjoy virtual windows showing the part of the world we choose. Imagine a live (or recorded) view of Central Park. That display would be a kind of light field display, similar to the failed Lytro light field camera.
What an absolutely fantastic setup! Each shot looks beautiful! I've seen a lot of the other videos you guys mentioned and this one looks the best for sure! Keep up the great work!!
I really love the night scene, it feels super cozy and has a great color contrast!
Only the day scene feels a bit off.
I think it‘s because the „window“ is not emitting enough light for an actual daylight setting.
The balance in the dynamic range of the shot feels not quite right. Especially with those dark shadows on the wall. Without the bounce-lighting a window of that size would allow, it looks more like a light box, than an actual window.
Furthermore, it’s pretty obvious the person is being lit 100% by big lights positioned around the person, like a studio, and 0% by the window. It seems like you might as well use green screen or something. It just looks like a fake Zoom background.
Looks great! I like that the window trim is attached with Velcro; allows for easy swapping between different colours and materials. The window sill box could be a handy storage space for the different trims, curtains, and dressings.
Just use a green screen. Much cheaper.😂
Thanks for the vid. Just a quick note that when shooting through real windows, there is usually a noticeable green tint (you can see the difference between the TV window and the real window at the 7:54 mark). Anyway, thanks again for the vid.
Super versatile setup! I like them all.
Seriously. Comedy was on point in this episeode 10:26 "It's my go to thing"-- Well done sir.
Amazing job on this! Loved seeing the different setups
This was awesome! Great use of space! The nightime city with the brick wall was my favourite but the first window light set up probably has more marketability for corporate clients. It still seemed a bit artificial to me at first glance and not sure if it was the color tone of the image or the lesser brightness of the sky, but still looked amazing with the motivated lighting you added. Thanks again, this was awesome!
For me, the lighting seems fine, although for the daytime shots I would expose so the "sky" is slightly brighter like you're saying as well.
I think the main psychological disconnect for me comes from the background blur, it doesn't match with how far the actual background would be. A non-technical person may not be able to pinpoint this, but I think they would "feel" something is off. The window trim is as blurry as the background itself, and also the image on the left is more blurred than the closer one on the right, which wouldn't be the case with real distances. I'm not sure if it is possible to emulate this difference in lens blur by manipulating the background image in some way.
The nighttime shot looks best to me as well, although it breaks down quickly as soon as they introduce camera movement like they show at the end, the backgound needs a very subtle parallax movement as well (no perspective shift is needed, just a slight crop on the image and then animate to move in the same direction as the camera move so the image "sticks at infinity" instead of moving along with the real background which is only a couple feet away.
All in all this method shows great possibilities, and I think for many corporate projects these results would be sufficiently convincing. I'd love to build a similar setup at some point to do more experimentation with the background blur.
Awesome setup! Potato Jet's video already made me want to try this, but the glass conference room thing look... wow. That's just icing on the cake!
Congrats on home grown 200k subs :p
Man, this was great to see, and a great video. We've already been planning on getting a 75" LED TV for product photography backgrounds, but this is another use I hadn't thought of. Your setups looked really clean, motivated and flattering. Interesting thing about keeping bounces white and negative fill black, to clean up ambient color influence from the room... I've been working on doing the opposite lately.
Greig Fraser has talked a lot about using bounces that match /the environmental tones of the sets/ in movies like Dune and The Batman, to keep thinks feeling natural. I rewatched The Batman, and I realized you rarely ever see a clean & neutral skin tone throughout the entire movie. There's usually some color influence from the environment.
I've been doing some of my own tests, and found that you can indeed create beautiful, naturalistic results from intentionally bouncing light with tonal influence from the environment. It gives the frame a certain unified aesthetic quality, without the use of a stylistic color grade. Very eye opening. He also seems to like lighting/exposing things with very realistic looking brightness & contrast ratios, enough that you could almost believe he's shooting in available light. Or almost like you, the viewer, are actually there with the characters.
The scenes don't look very "lit", and the lighting is rarely "ideal", but it all seems to generate a very authentic feeling image... and ultimately everything still has careful intention behind it. I really admire it. But you guys' setups here really reminded me of the value in keeping everything clean and sort of "ideal" for totally different look. What Greig does is very different from how you'd light an interview, TV commercial, or piece of stock footage... or even a different sort of movie. Lighting is so particular, and yet has so much wiggle room, depending on what you're actually trying to do. It's fascinating to me.
Excellent video. The three setups are pretty convincing, but my preference goes to the night setting. I like the use of the practical, and the negative fill does a great job.
That night filming is the best
Great lighting on the brick wall shots !!! Very impressive..
Love the last one ✨✨
That "don´t subscribe" intro made me instantly subscribe
This is incredible. Expensive, but still saves a ton of money while remaining portable and simple. The only thing I can see as an issue is the lack of parallax with a moving camera (for the city background) but other than that it looks great. I think experimenting without the white trim on the tvs would look good too as black trim is probably more common. Great job ELM!
And that could be fixed with some Vive Mars type stuff. But for a city, it's maybe not that big a deal
Can you not do it with a cheap projector?
@@Alec15 not a "cheap" one. It'll be easy too dark. Already cheap TV is coming out a bit dark
@@Alec15 I thought of that too but it would probably get too washed out
@@mortalens and if you shoot wide open?
The night shoot looks lit!
The night-time city scape is stunning..! Would never think this was not real.
Oh wow thanks!!!
I cracked up at the "tech bro!" but definitely the night-time shot is my favorite! This could really benefit from the Roscoe Dash + DOT or another small eyelight, just to give his eyes life... that's the last little detail to make it perfect!
It's pretty good.
I mean I'd go for the cheaper ''LED pannel disguised as a window' on the wall'' because of the price, but your work is convincing. Bravo.
Looks really good! Love the breakdown 👏
First time watching and loved the video! Great idea and super inventive way of solving quick changes. Have you thought about experimenting with any parallax software to add even more realism to the outside space?
Absolutely incredible! Always blown away by your knowledge and the videos you put out! Thank you!
I love this channel. You guys have helped me tremendously on quite a few things in the 10 videos I’ve watched. Love the one of bouncing light from outside with the Home Depot rig🙌🏼
Love the night cityscape setup 🔥
A humble Arizona boy. Love it.
Not so humble but I am an Arizona boy it’s true!
Very informative. Great tutorial for lighting production in a short segment without talking down to your audience. I learned a lot, thank you.
I like all the DIY on this show. It makes me wish to own a white van. Thanks for more tips and ideas.
Fascinating. I love anything that goes behind the scenes.
I've considered getting a vinyl brick wall backdrop, and seeing it work well here was encouraging.
Just stumbled on this video. Loved it, cool dudes, great info.
nice setup with good detail.
The night scene is absolutely so freaking cool. I'm buying all the stuff just so I can make cool videos
if i ever have a studio space for client shoot i'll totally invest in this setup, it's so expandable and so much control of the environment
The night setup is awsome! Very realistic and cinematic.
Hey thanks!!
What a cool project and implementation! I like it.
so informative and very appealing setup. Great for the introverts that want to travel and go out into the world without having to go out.....
We don't really want to subscribe your channel,
but your content doesn't let that happen...😆 Love your work
This is a cool build for something I will never need but definitely want 😆
Very cool and informative. Loved the looks...
I've wanted to do this ever since I saw Potato jets video. He took it up a notch further and looks like he used DMX or some other app to quickly shift the fill light tones between scenes. Really convincing looking setups for not a lot of money. Well done.
Wow you guys nailed this!
Nice idea. I love it
Brilliant! Excellent tutorial
I need to make my subjects look more "elite". Thanks for this video EL! Great Job!
Thanks for stopping by josh!
Thanks for sharing this, I am building a wall for use with a projector for more background options and seeing what you have done is going to help with that.
That's freakin Smart. Def gonna steal this. Love the details about the whole lighting setup too. We have a big light/softbox we use too almost always at 1% for interviews :)
The night time scene looked dope
Awesome work, tons of helpful insight 😊
First saw this look on Potato Jets channel. Great breakdown here. Thanks for sharing
Thank you very much. It's very informative yet fun to watch
Great video! Was thinking about this afterwards; you could switch the white spacers/separators between the TVs with black, wood, etc. Also, you could have drill a hole in a set and add light sconces/fixtures - these could be off-the-shelf or 3D printed.
3D printing would allow you to scale and customize the fixture design (art deco, modern, etc.) and they could be painted - might need to block out the side of the fixture that faces the window/screen - otherwise it could cause some odd reflections. Little aspects would really add to the ambience.
looks great! video for the background would probably even sell the effect more like slight movement in the palm trees
Looks great! The only thing I'd want to fix/add is a way to move the TV's to the other side a lot faster. There are many sit-down interviews where I would like the interviewee looking to the left of the camera instead of the right. Especially if I'm filming more than 1 person per project. Also a nit-pik but the blue "moonlight" needs to be toned down for saturation - I feel like the general consensus for moonlight is to blast the set with a very saturated blue light and in this case I think less is more.
love the last shot with the fake night. i do think the lack of parallax on the city window gives it away a bit but if you move less then it's less noticeable
This is awesome. Let see if I can make it in my classroom! Thank you!
The bike in the night shot was hilarious, as your backdrop was a high altitude window, great work though man
I love it... BUT... i'd keyframe the Image sideways on the screens a little bit when moving the camera for a parallax effect. 💜
Looks great!
Great content man. Thanks !
I have learned so much with you guys. Best channel on TH-cam to learn about lights.
Ahh so kind!
This video is simply invaluable, I've learnt a lot and sure I'll find some situations will this knowledge will be in use. Amazing work.
I filmed a short film for my college intramurals where i put a 40 inch tv outside the house and place it on the window because im too lazy to track footage and key it out. we did similar with the edges through set design but not as yours. One thing i learned about that technique is to avoid close ups with wide focal lengths and deep aperture (like f5.6) where you can see the rgb pixels of the tv.
all are cool. especially the last one with the city look
Nice set up! thanks, I prefere the blue dark nite
This is absolutely incredible, you guys did a phenomenal job at building this. The first two scenes looked the best. IMO the last scene with the city in the background looked good but the choice of making the tube light blue in the background to mimic the city lights was too much and instead 10:48 ended up looking like there is a St. Pauli Girl neon beer sign hanging somewhere on another wall out of the shot.
Love every look. I learn something new every time I come to your channel. Keep it up guys.
Thanks so much
All of these look pretty good!
The sky on the first one should probably be a little brighter. I'd consider moving the tube light a little farther back (closer to the TV). The shadow direction on the plants looks a little off r n.
Can't wait to see with some moving backgrounds!
How big is your room?
Nice, thanks for these tips. I like the brick wall and the night setup
Thanks!!
Nice! I once used a large tv as my background because I didn't have a green screen. Although all the shots were limited to close ups and extreme close ups haha.
Very interesting setup which is versatile😍 when budget allows it will try it out🤩
They look amazing 😮
Awesome video. Thank you
cool explanation!
Nicely done! But I have also the feeling that this is pretty limited. Ok, you can have all kinds of terrain, weather, etc. but only 'through a window'. It works well but I would like to see other examples of how to use this setup. I guess that the bars prevent broad, flexible applications.
Well done, I also noticed you guys upgrade? to the C500 Mark II!? Big fan of my C300 mark III, but I did find, occasionally the shadow noise on the C500 not as clean as the C300. Do you tend to ETTR a little more in general? But now I kinda miss full frame on that body. Heck with the price drop maybe it's worth upgrading too. So how do you like the new camera, what was the goal of changing, and any reason you didn't buy into the hype train of the FX6 (beyond already owning a million canon EF lenses).
All very clever. You explained what you did but the shots were very convincing 😀
I’ll save up for three big TVs, the special lights and yeah, a proper camera. I suppose then I’d have to start making my own TH-cam videos instead of just watching 🤪
Awesome stuff!
This is awesome ELM
10:44 looks the best setup out of all setup
I think they all
Look great
Loved this video guys!
Hey thanks so much!!
Another tip is use an AI service like mid journey to create custom backdrops works really well because you can be really specific with how you want it to look and it’ll be blurry enough that any AI artefacts won’t be visible
Really well done. I work in a very small video production unit that is part of a small advertising/marketing company. We have a DP, editor, gaffer and grip, a make-up person and set builder...ALL me! I wish I could talk my bosses into spending the money for something like this because we could use all three monitors, just two or just one...vertical or horizontal and get all sorts of different looks. I would assume you could even feed moving video into the monitors to make it even more convincing. I liked all your looks. I didn't think any were cheesey looking. With the heavy bokeh I think most viewers' attention would be focused on the subject of the interview and if the edited clip(s) were short enough, the viewers wouldn't have time to "find stuff" in the picture to get distracted by or criticize. Nice job. Thanks for sharing.
Hey thanks!!!!
Curous is you can flip the setup easily enough in order to get subjects looking left of screen?