Who is Caesar's Descendant - Noa or Proximus Caesar? Mae Explained
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ย. 2024
- Years after Caesar's rule, a juvenile ape embarks on a voyage that prompts him to examine his ingrained beliefs about history and make decisions that will shape the destiny of both apes and humans. The highly anticipated return of the simian universe, known as the Kingdom of the planet of the apes, is imminent after a hiatus of 7 years. The premise is as follows: Approximately three centuries after the events depicted in War for the Planet of the Apes (2017), ape societies have sprung from the oasis where Caesar guided his fellow apes, while humans have devolved into a wild and primitive condition. When the dominant ape ruler Proximus Caesar, equipped with weapons created from forgotten human technologies, distorts Caesar's principles to subjugate other groups, the chimpanzee tracker Noa embarks on a perilous expedition with a human girl named Mae to decide the fate of both apes and humans. In this video, we will explore the key characters of the future movie and their likely ancestors. We will examine three individuals, specifically Proximus Caesar, Noa, and Mae, consisting of two apes and one human, respectively.
Considering Proximus is literally a different species from original Ceasar, I'd say that's pretty cut and dry.
Speaking of species, what does the movies have against bonobos?! 😭Made as villains when in real life they're the most gentle primates!
@@FrankLeeYoung racism
Irony, i suppose.@@FrankLeeYoung
Bonobos and chimpanzees can interbreed, though it happens so rarely I can’t really find definitive information on if the offspring are sterile or not.
@Adsper2000 but since these guys in particular have human consciousness it probably doesn't really matter much to them as they have grown somewhat civilised.
Now finally we now know about what happened to Rocket, Maurice, Nova, Caesar's Son and next generation 300 year after.
They died over 200 years before the events of Kingdom.
Yes but we get found out what happened 😊
@jonnywick4611 Apparently reading comments before replying isn't this dudes thing
Karl, you’re wrong. They are all in this. They will be the elders. The serum that made them smart also makes them live a long time like Captain America.
Don’t forget Buck
Noa might be carrying Caesar's lineage from his mother's side as oppose to his father's
I think this story is similar to Bible stories. Ceasar is Adam. And Noa is Noah where the first ape kingdom fell due to greed. And a small group of apes escaped. And eagle symbolizes god or godly power of choose one.
Nah..... he's just a monkey 😅
Great way to look at it
Kept saying the same thing 💀there was a literal flood but there were other biblical elements as well. I believe “Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes” is fortelling a real biblical kingdom that the chosen people of god (Israelites) will control the earth.
All the reason why for the Illuminati/Elites to make a mockery of God and reality as we know it.
These movies are more than movies.
Not to mention there was a “great flood “
No
She's the only one in modern clothings compared to the rest of the humans, making theory no.3 the most plausible.
What about the humans in the bunker that she takes the motherboard to?
It’s neither of those. There are other human societies that were unaffected by the virus. She’s part of one of those clans.
This means If humans colonized space, moon, mars etc...or in trying to beat the apeflu the mess given to test subjects boosted human brain 🧠 to mutant levels...title of next ape movie, Beneath the kingdom of planet of the apes? Do you suppose Walter Koenig to be a psionic mutant or
be a research scientist who creates a race of telepathic test subjects via a neural virus? Or an old missile silofield in what was North Dakota ,
Considering Mae is dressed in modern looks like military clothing, she may be a astronaut that went through time. She is not of the same humans in Noa's current time.
I agreed
No astronaut just a society of humans who survived the virus and living in a shelter in the forbidden zone.
@@RoseTorn411 what shelter is going to be big enough, and have enough food and supplies to allow 300 years, dozens of generations of survivors to survive?
@@cindyspangler3982 maybe they grow their own food. Doesn't mean they lost the ability to survive.
@@RoseTorn411 do you know how many acres of land, above ground it would take to keep replanting, year after year to sustain dozens of generations of humans for 300 years? C'mon..just give up.
I also theorize that, the so called Proximus Caesar, he is the descendant of KOBA.
And at some point divided the apes between Ceasar's way and Koba's. Could be why Noa doesn't know about his history.
Who in their right mind would've had a kid with Koba???!!! 😂😂😂
@@randyschwaggins I theorize KOBA, might of forced himself, onto a female ape, she gave birth to one child, and that’s a baby boy.
I also theorize this aggressive act, might of happened, on the day he turned against Caesar.
@briandaleske5139 so what your saying is Kobo is a rapist 😂
@@randyschwagginsapes would through submission and rap*
If you compare the eyes of Caesar and Noa, they both have a greener and brighter hue which may mean they are related and their lineage is smarter then others. As apes of the lineage are the only ones to ever be exposed to both ALZ-112 and ALZ-113. If you also compare the eyes of Proximus Caesar and Koba, they are darker then Noa's and Caesars's, similar to natural apes who aren't as intelligent as humans or advanced apes.
Noah is from Caesar bloodline 💯💯
Noa has a birthmark in the same spot as Caesar
@@Vpninjas duh
@@IxMADMANxl people are comparing eyes when that physical feature should tell you he’s apart of the bloodline
It would also be interesting if Mei was a descendent of a group of rare humans whose bodies managed to develop either an immunity or a vaccine for the viruses. Thus preserving their ability to speak. Additionally, much of the original three movies from what can remember took place in the Eastern and central United States. Leaving open the possibility that humans in other parts of the world managed to weather the virus's spread, and either regained the ability to speak or as stated earlier develop a cure for the virus that came too late to stop civilizations complete collapse.
Is it possible that mai direct descendants from Malcolm or mai may have come from will?
That’s what I’m thinking, hell in war we see that the US still had a fully and completely operational military as well as command and control, logistics, fuel production etc in order to enable the force at the end of the movie. Who’s to say there aren’t millions of humans left all over the planet that either completely weather it out or just never make contact with the new strain from war since it’s probably localized
The first three movies took place mostly in California. In War we see the apes leaving California to find a new home.
Didn’t expect to see Frank ghallager in this movie 😂😂
Acting EXACTLY like Frank too, if it was the end of the world he'd still be mooching off apes
I started laughing in the theater 😂🥴
@@Francesempress same dude and if you know Frank it makes sense for him to be the only one that survived 😂😂
My brother and I were cracking up 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
I feel Noah looks like an offspring of Caesar, maybe Caesar’s youngest son who was still alive at the end of the last movie.
Impossible. The time is set 300 years later..
@@Ishbikes Olay, grandson then or great grandson. Doesn’t change my opinion at all. I said offspring. 300 years is 3 generations or 4 at best. Of course, I am not sure how long talking apes live lol.
Proximus Ceasar is probably the descendant of koba
Makes sense given hes a bonobo apparently which is kobas ape species
If you actually think noa and Caesar are NOT related..... you clearly do not know what your talking about! They talk, act, lead, take advice and risks the same. AND they look identical!!
That's pretty racist dude
@@randyschwagginstheir literally apes are you serious 😭🤣
I feel like th3y don't look identical if you actually look at them
I just watched and they look identical
It’s interesting because the actor who plays Noa confirmed that none of the apes are directly related to Caesar.
Cesar said: i didnt started this war i offeredd you mercy and now youre here! To finish us for good...
Apes strong together!
Poor peoples of America, strong together in Caesars voice.
Yeah...he didn't say that
@@randyschwaggins don’t bother retorting, you obviously don’t get it.
You read my mind at 2:32 and 4:00 I am going to go with your third theory at 8:33
Watched this movie yesterday such a good film 😊
I felt Cesar was more of a Jesus to them
Well I wouldn't say that...but he was more of a leader. Jesus is more than a leader he is everything. Let's not forget that.
Can you do weakest to strongest from the 4 planet of the apes movies
After the new movie comes out
We already know the answer it’s me
These humans always make me so sad even in the older movies it would take much more than a pandemic and near extinction for the human race to regress this badly
Well in the third the little girl nova may have spread the disease that made humans regress
I think Mae will be the daughter of one of the astronauts
Nah this is too early in the timeline. The director stated this is waaaaay before that.
Is it possible that may direct descendants from nova or mai may have come from will?
I think Mae is the descendant of Maurice
I know
Humans have always been apart of planet of the apes but I lowkey want a movie focus on the apes politics just me though
Hi I’m ape Trump, we’re gonna get you the biggest bananas, believe me, they’re incredible
if you look at Noa's chest he has the same kind of birth mark as Caesar
I agreed
Yeah the little heart patch
I guess Cesear got reincarnated
Mae was not the only human who could speak. As soon as she and Noa were brought to Ceasars compound, there was an older human who educated the Apes about the past, he read to them.
Noa and Nova best descendents
Proximus evil king great review of kingdom of planet of the apes
Is it possible that may direct descendants from will or may may have come from nova?
@@stephaniepage4334 proximus is kobas descendant , noa from cesar, mae from Nova
Proximus won that battle! The ape that fight bare handed rather than Noah over here using hawks for victory 🤷🏻♂️ 😂
I think noa is descendant of ceasar,because on Noa’s face..it does resemble of ceasar from the first beginning of the other movie.
Tell me you didn't watch the last 5 minutes of the movie without telling me you didn't watch the last 5 minutes of the movie...
Are we not going to talk about how Noah has a similar scar on his chest like ceasar's? It's faint but it's there.
Good catch, I didn't notice it but it's there just like you said!
I’m glad I’m not the only one. I almost said birthmark but then I realized that’s stupid
Except for the fact that scars aren't hereditary.
Weirdly in binobo society, it's the females the run things, not the males. Just waiting for a female binobo to pop into this and tell those males off. LOL.
Bonobo*
That's only true for primitive Bonobo society. These apes have human level intelligence, so their primitive behavior has been mostly eradicated. They still make ape noises and stuff, but they're slowly becoming more and more human like and in most human societies males are in positions of leadership.
Noa also has the shooting star scar on his chest like Caesar.
Noa definitely
I mean interspecies relations isn't out of the question especially with how similar bonobos and chimps are physically
What happened to all main characters in Caesar's times?
dead by this point in the story, but we don’t really know how they died, including Cornelius.
If this takes place 300years later what does that tell you smarty?
Youll learn about them in the Ape's bible...
@@mydude8731 shut up incel
@@ImperialEarthEmpireThe law giver. 😂
Mei is not from the present time. thats all ill say, prox ceasar def is related to koba, noah def is related to ceasar.
I just saw the new Kingdom of the Apes movie last weekend. I was wondering who really is Caesar's descendant in this movie: Noa, Arterius, or Mei with Caesar gone along with his son, Rocket, Maurice and Nova all gone too after some 300 years since Caesars death in this movie. And it was crazy Arterius was right about the humans cannot be trusted, but he was also wrong in twisting Caesar's words of "Ape together strong" and "Ape not kill Ape".
I think Mae is going to be from a Silo that humans sheltered in so to her she’ll want to find more humans and teach them or gather information to help the greater good of mankind, even at the cost of the apes.
she cant be from a bunker somewhere, if humans came out after all that time they would be infected instantly because they arent used to the new environment. shes def from the past or future.
@@JaeOvrZane well I’m assuming that if she’s not from a bunker then she must be helping humans in those bunkers. Maybe trying to reestablish communications or access to weapons.
I think she is a Cylon
I think she is a Cylon
@@randyschwaggins what’s that
At the end of the movie we saw May took the chip and hand it to the other remaining human with complete normal intelligence so it's clear that she either volunteered or was sent by humans to a mission to retrieve that information and everything in that chip, she knew what to do and went for the chip
the story wouldnt follow noah if he wasnt related to ceasar. his lineage prolly fled because of some conflict with kobas followers. after ceasar died theres a chance conflict happened because of not having ceasar as their leader
Is it possible that noa distant direct descendants from Cornelius or also possibly that his daughter in law lake was pregnant with blue eyes baby?
WHAT IF... Mae came out of a hibernation chamber. Perhaps they went in as the Simian Flue began to spread worldwide. 500 years later, she's out.
Noa also has the same birthmark as Ceaser on his top right shoulder.
I don’t see it
I think we would have seen koba's child by now. so that makes no sense hes related to koba
uhh. not really. u are really narrow minded and your comment tells me you are biased.
I would like to say that based off what we know nova is one of the few on the surface who can speak it could be that they hide the fact they speak like she has I'm not saying all of them just pointing out there could be more and there is the little ending group
I’ll be watching it at home tonight on movie app
Interesting!
Considering all of the subspecies and species of _Pan_ can hybridise and produce fertile offspring, by this point there would be no pure chimpanzees or bonobos anymore. It's quite plausible that Proximus is 80-90% bonobo with a few chimpanzee ancestors, and one of these could be Caesar.
Did you see the end of the movie? There is a whole settlement of humans, clearly she came from them
She could be an offspring of the first planet of the Apes. Which means her genetics come from George Taylor and Nova. As they referred to Taylor as Blue Eyes. Something Noa has..
Spoiler alert:
300 years later and yet Caesar was still the smartest and most evolved of all the evolved apes, and the movie revolves around Caesar’s legacy and teachings.
Just a not with option 2 for May, we see in the old planet of the apes a mutant human civilization survived all the way to the 3000’s and on. So 300 years doesn’t seem unreasonable.
Doubt : in Eternals movie
If Arishem is bigger than the planet, those three (sersi, phastos, kingo) should be just like microscopic on his hand but we saw three little big... How? Explain pls
What about this theory? Did we ever learn what happened to Ellie from Dawn of the POTA? She was immune to the simian virus. What if Mae is a descendant of Ellie and Malcolm? Malcolm was killed by the Colonel but Ellie could have been pregnant and given birth to a child that was born with full immunity as her and Malcolm and those offspring continued to birth immune children. Idk just a thought I thought would be interesting…
Hestons movie had rocky/boulder type buildings? Why?
Proximus ceasar says in the film that’s he killed May’s clan before they new they could speak but May had escaped, that’s why he was after her in the first place so she wasn’t raised by apes she also tells Noah that her mum taught her silence 😢 for her safety so I doubt she went to mars with her mum 😂but who knows… I can’t wait for the next one
May might be the time traveler from the. Originals mark walberg
Quit trying to connect this to the 2001 film its not
@@SupportGamin2024 you can’t tell me what to do tehe I’m being a rebel
"KoBa High ranking member? Tf this guy talking about the military or APES TOGETHER STRONGG!!
Bro got a degree in stupidity 💀
He literally got the same birthmark at Caesar
Only humans would look at Noa as the protagonist. The title is named the planet of the apes, not hope for humans.
Well, the apes don't really go to the cinemas
If Noa and Caesar aren’t related, making them look incredibly similar is so on the nose and lazy. Why even bother making Noa smarter than the average ape if he isn’t more directly related to Caesar? It’s like Beneath the Planet of the Apes in terms of retreading the original.
Nobody is going to mention that Noah has the same birthmark that Caesar has ?
The way i see it noa is caesar's descendant
never watched the movie yet eh?
SPOILER:
Mae is from a fallout shelter group of regular humans
Why is she the only one with pants and tank top, pretty much looking like Lara Croft?
Because she is from a settlement of normal humans
Proximus is a bonobo so he can’t be Caesar’s descendant
Prox is a bonobo and noa is a chimpanzee so if there’s a descendent it’s definitely noa but in my opinion noa is probably not related to ceaser
Noa is most likely related to ceasar which would make him a great descendent maybe not from a direct line of descendents.
Rocket was a bonobo
And here I thought that proximus “ceaser” was some kind name like julius ceaser from the Roman Empire c:
Noah has to be he literally has a birthmark in the same place as caeser so does his dad, his mother didn’t.
Seems it is possible
If Koba had a kid they would’ve addressed that
As Always power and wisdom Always bring thirst for more Power and violence, not for nothing humans and monkeys are really similar
You can’t have personality traits passed down genetically
How is he caeser if he not using Caesar’s clan
Eh.... he looks nothing like ceasar .
. Rather he just be an underdog.
Maybe present blue eyes decendant in the future as a key ally ... or even enemy
Could it be Mark whalbergs ship that went into space or this new Astronaut girl who was on that ship during Rise
Could you stop
Idk, Proximus looks too black to be Caesar’s descendant (it’s a joke😂). Noah looks close to his lineage.
Plus he's a bonobo
@@mydude8731 Koba was also a bonobo so maybe hes from Kobas bloodline idk.
I agreed with you
Proximus is a banobo hes more likely to be a descendant of koba
They should make Caesar sleep rather than die from War, without Caesar, 4 become just like others failed movie
It really could be both let’s be honest
Bro he has the same birthmark
Proximus Ceaser is a bonobo
In my opinion, NOA, looks more like the former CAESAR, and so I theorize he is the true descendant of Caesar.
Original films an astronaut lose forward in time
Or possibility 4....May is the offspring of ape and human. Born bald and looking more human, she easily passed as that. But raised by both parents unknown by either group out of fear neither would accept her and fearing they'd eliminate her!? Keeping script to original script where female ape fell in love with intelligent human man.
I don’t think it’s realistic to be 300 years after, it’s more like 80 years. Because ain’t no way a silo’s electronics, power supply, weapons and ammo are still working after 300 years.
It’s 300 years bud
@@Catmoment67892 you telling me batteries and bullets still works after 300 years?
@@ka-boom2083 apparently so. Doesn’t make sense but hey, I watched movie
@@Catmoment67892 right, it doesn’t make sense. Bullets lasts at most 80 years in the open with moisture. In the film it never mentioned 300 years either, 80~100 is more realistic.
Hypothetically if you had an ample amount of spare parts and stockpiled nuclear fuel. You could sustain a bunker for centuries with the exception of things like fresh food. New designs for nuclear reactors only have to be fueled every 50 years now.
I thought that Kevin Duran is black. I was wrong.
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who thought that.when I saw he was white I was like….is this the same Kevin Durant
Let's find out
Noa. Proximus is a different species
The ending was dumb. Mae was about to clip Noa if he hadnt given her the necklace and acted so nice to her. Kinda dumb how if it wasnt for Noa Mae wouldve been entrapped or died and how much of a traitor she could be. Plus Noa is super weak.
Why 300 years? Why so long? No!!!!!!
Noa
Noah?
Cezar je predstavljao Mojsija.
Is it just me or was the trilogy CGI better than this
Yeah perhaps
Dream on...nothing special about blue or green eyes. They can't survive sun exposure...a true evidence of meekness.
I watched the movie, spoiler clicking reading more (not really?)
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Honestly he looks so much like ceasar but im pretty bummed out how nowhere not once did they hint he is actually RELATED to ceasar :c. The actor for noa also said that hes just a normal ape who carries on to ceasars reign
koba never had kids!!!!! correlation isn't causation.
Neither
Mark walberg daughter
Stop trolling