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I think the future of this franchise is very bright, and I'm really excited to see where the next film goes. Kingdom was incredible in my opinion, not quite as good as the Andy Serkis trilogy, but still a solid 8.5/10. Noah is a fantastic new main protagonist, we've got some great side characters in Soona and Anaya, and Proximus Caesar was a phenomenal villain. Only complaint is I wish we got a bit more of him
@@FilmSpeak I would say a decent 7.5/10 movie. Impressive action and likeable characters but very weak storytelling. The movie's way too slow and the main themes feel sidelined and the movie presents generic storylines instead. So overall it feels like a setup for future installments.
Yea me too, Koba would have killed him to try to make a point. Proximus was annoyed sure but even he understood it’d be wasteful to kill an ape over it
@@brytonup1551 fr fr that scene made me like proximus actually it reminded me of the boy with striped pajamas scene where a human is actually killed for doing just that
This is why I feel like proximus comes back in a redemption arc. Even the director in interviews said proximus isn't evil he's just curious and misguided. He's a bonobo ape too like rocket was and rocket was the alpha ape at the zoo who Caesar had to overcome in order to escape out of there
@@msrumedia5616rocket is a chimpanzee with alopecia. That is why he doesn’t look like the other chimps but he is a chimp regardless. You’re thinking of Koba, he is a bonobo
I also kind of find it tragic, he was clearly taught the origin of Caesar’s name and the great empire he created and so mimicked it. But he didn’t know or wasn’t taught what happened to it and how it fell and that many of its “strengths” and “powers” were what caused its downfall which would inevitably happen again
i loved the fact that we really didnt get to see what noah saw through the scope, just seeing his reaction and eyes widen was enough, great moment in the moview!
If I had to guess, he saw Saturn. He took an interest in poking Saturn in the classroom orrery when he saw it hanging from the ceiling. What are the odds you accidentally see a rather hard target to train a telescope on though? Maybe you’d see a star or two accidentally. With a scope that large, anything in the field of view would pass through in 10-20 seconds. The thought was really cool though! Loved everything about that flick.
Hot take. Completely miss the allegory of the biblical Noah and the flood? That story is about people who have misconstrued the “word of god” being washed away be the flood, Noah building an ark (or in this case a metaphorical one) to protect the future of his species, and he and his family train birds who find land where he can bring his people to in order to set up a new home and rebuild.
When I first read about that scene being an allegory to Noah, I thought it was a bit of a stretch, but the way you put it, it makes a little bit more sense if you focus on the symbolism and meaning of it.
Loved the movie and Wes Ball knocked it out of the park with Owen Teague and Kevin Durand's acting. Aside from Raka being wasted, I would've loved to see Noa use the knowledge of the real Caesar to provoke Proximus in their last fight but his defeat was so creative and fitting.
@@kevincmejiai hope they dont do a koba 2.0 with that move since they did the same thing in dawn, tho it kinda worked bc in war koba was still alive in ces’ mind
Proxi was actually not an evil generic character. Instead a personality wanting to finally force his people together for their advancement. Like any parody, he copied what worked in the past. He never set out to destroy apes into his vision. Instead pool them all together for his new direction. Largely everything we saw him do is exactly what our ancestors did in times of old to expand their empires into what we have today. Hence why he was given history lessons through books.
If I remember correctly, I didn't ever see him commit any real acts of harm towards any apes, only his invading forces who were typically led by silva.
I think the reason why this was my favorite planet of the apes movie at least of the four I’ve seen is probably because when I first started watching that trilogy, I guess I didn’t expect for it to basically be one giant origin if that makes sense? , I wanted to see was the actual planet taken over by apes and that culture. I feel like this movie was what I wanted all along. Because, in the first three movies while good a lot of it felt like a buildup. Like it felt like we were seen the apes take over and even in the third one I never really felt like we got that true “PLANET” . That’s what this movie was to me.
No, I totally get that. That's a big reason why this is my second favorite as well. The Caesar trilogy is masterful, especially Dawn, but the environment, the ruins, the advancements in Ape technology and culture, THAT is the stuff that I want to see from POTA. This struck a perfect balance of evolving the franchise closer to where we're at in the original POTA, while carrying over the parts of the Caesar trilogy that were so effective.
war should have been more of them actually beginning to have a start of a bigger civilization for the apes, they were still a medium sized tribe at best.
This movie felt like a breath of fresh air. The movies with Caesar feel way too small for a character that is supposed to have such a large impact on the evolved apes. His group felt like a struggling refugee camp and not a growing civilization.
I agree with you on the front of going into the original trilogy wanting that "planet" aspect it held potential for but yea this 4th one does bring that to the front. I wish Proximus was in the movie longer but im hoping that Noa's tribe grows to that KINGDOM level like we're playing city builder
Didn’t realize until I rewatched the first movie that the symbol on the necklace is from the window in Caesar’s room, which he then drew on his cell wall when in captivity. I’m doing a rewatch of the trilogy with my wife, who hasn’t seen them yet. I don’t remember the symbol showing up in the other movies, so I thought it was an interesting callback.
The symbol has been shown even since Rise, where it was painted onto road signs as a sort of symbol of ape rebellion/empowerment. When Caesar died and was subsequently deified, it became more of a religious symbol.
What Wes Ball did with this movie astounded me! Continuing the story of Caesar by exploring his legacy as an almost religious figure was brilliant. On top of that the VFX were immaculate and the performances just as impressive. An epic return to this world that has me wanting a lot more!
It’s amazing indeed, he built a new world from the foundation of the last POTA trilogy and established a new dynamic between the humans and apes. I love it’s my favorite along side Dawn.
This film is fantastic! After seeing it twice now I’m convinced the Planet of the Apes property deserves an open world survival game. I’m just imagining choosing a species of ape, foraging for materials, climbing and traversing an overgrown world, building up a settlement, and fending off rival apes. That’s just a simple concept but it sure sounds captivating to me. Regardless I’m very much looking forward to what this franchise brings next because personally I haven’t gotten enough of it yet!
The first thing I learned about this movie is a friend calling the villain’s Caesar’s Legion from New Vegas. Someone looks to Roman history to reestablish society and goes about this by conquering, enslaving, and erasing the identity of various tribes. Also they both take the name Caesar
I really like Mae’s character. Because, let’s be real, she is what humans would be if they were really in this situation. She sees these apes as unnatural. It’s wrong. If we were really in this situation, we would do everything in our power to end these apes. So I love the way they characterized her. She’s on a mission for humanity, whilst finding humanity in the apes along the way. Now she’s set on a course where she’s gonna be torn between sides and will probably be forced to choose.
I hope she ends up being the main villain. I really like the actress and part of me wants her to come around but if done correctly, her developing into a reluctant but determined villain would be fascinating.
We would? I would be of the option that the genie was out of the bottle and it was time to build back better. “Unnatural”? Nonsense. These are people, same as us. Rakka was right. I hope he lived.
Dude you CRUSHED it. Can't thank you enough for the work you put into this. Turned out even better than I could've hoped. Also, yeah! I'm so excited for it too haha Wes proved to me he's THE GUY for Zelda.
have the apes not understand eachother cause of said language barrier, have some humans tho be able to speak between diff ape tribes due to them knowing different languages, that'd be a unique situation 2 apes not understanding eachother language wise but having a human intermediate their convo, have this 2 characters who look like eachother not be able to understand eachother without this other (the human)
This is how you continue a franchise properly. A story that is far removed from the original ceasar trilogy and is able to stand on it's own while still acknowledging the original. Most franchises milk the IP in the worst way possible.
I think an element of Kingdom that was quite brilliant was the capsulating of Malcom and Dreyfus' characters into the one of Mae. Having Mae understand the hubris of humanity that caused the apes to become highly intelligent and to create a virus that almost wiped-out humanity, brought about horrific wars over resources, and to cause many remaining humans to lose their ability to speak makes her similar to Malcom, along with her ability to see Noa as an intelligent individual. Yet, as had Dreyfus in the "Dawn of the Planet of the Apes" (2014) film, Mae still carried the philosophy of seeing the world she lived in be actually belonging to humans alone, not to the apes that also had lived there and were now as intelligent as humans. Furthermore, her willingness to betray her comrades for her beliefs was much like Dreyfus' decision to commit suicide and do so while murdering his two loyal men.
Great review of a great film. I will say though I don't really agree with the interpretation that Mae's betrayal was a matter of not trusting the Eagle Clan with the knowledge. Rather, I saw it as a more Machiavellian move, with Mae willing to sacrifice Noa and his clan if it meant denying Proximus the advanced weaponry in the vault. It's still a betrayal, of course, and both Mae and Noa clearly see it that way, but it's less a reflection of her succumbing to her prejudices against apes and more about how she sees herself (she reveals the existence of the gun to the apes in order to save Soona's life, after all). Mae sees herself as a soldier in a war for survival, and is willing to do anything it takes to accomplish her mission (first evidence of which was her killing Trevathan). At the end of the day, escaping from the apes and eliminating an avowed enemy in Proximus was more important than honoring her deal with Noa.
If you didn't know, Wes Ball was going to make a full cgi film called Mouseguard and worked with Matt Reeves on it. It sadly got cancelled with the Disney and Fox merger(at least that's what I believe I heard). So it's not completely random as to why he was chosen
I did! And the footage looked great that he released. I only recently found out about his friendship with Reeves and career in VFX. In hindsight, yeah, he makes a lot sense. Happy for him!
I'm always impressed by Owen Teague in everything he's in, especially in recent years. I always think a movie is great if I find myself wanting to watch it again once it's over, and I personally did.
Easily the best video I’ve seen on this film. I’ve seen it twice now and it was even better the second time. I think people are overlooking/dismissing the brilliance of this one because of their fondness of Caesar’s trilogy. Everyone has their own opinion and taste but you completely nailed the themes presented here. I missed the knowledge and power dynamic and looking back it was so obvious lol. Thank you and I couldn’t hit the like button fast enough. What a wonderful video!!
I think that this movie lags ever so slightly behind the trilogy which is way beyond anything I could have expected. The thing that I sorely miss about Matt Reeves directing is the sense of texture that he was able to develop. It was as if you could feel the fog in Dawn or the snow in War, and that simply isn't something that I feel in this one because I think that that texture is unique to Reeves. I don't think that there was a "No" moment either necessarily like there was in Rise not that there needed to be, but it was something that was uniquely powerful in Rise. That's enough negativity though, this film was fantastic. Something I loved in particular was the telescope/space motif, and I really hope that that is something that they retain and further develop in future. I'm a mathematician who has had the opportunity to work alongside astronomers (astronomy is incredibly mathematically dense, but to be honest, they really just needed a programmer), and something I've thought about a lot is the start of the scientific revolution. In our timeline, it started in astronomy with Copernicus, but a part of me wonders when I look at the sky if that is always how it happens like if the stars are, in a sense, unique in their ability to instill a capacity for wonder in us. With the telescope being Noah's enlightenment, I wonder if that's what Wes Ball was potentially going for. I love this film it's like an 8.6/10 while still leaving room for a potential Dawn-quality sequel.
@@albatross4920 yes, but scenes were shot in Australia. He meant to say that it didn't help the immersion that the landscape was very Australian even though the movie is set in California
I thought this film was brilliant and a great continuation of the Apes movies BUT I think we will look back at it as a film that did a better job setting up future movies than being a great movie in it’s own right
True, I love how they reset the human/ape dynamic. The prior movie they were devolving, in this is looks like they have gained immunity to the virus but are out numbered. Noa won’t be naive like his father not explore the world because he has so much to learn.
How about because of weak storytelling ? Impressive action and likeable characters are still no compensation for poor pacing and underwhelming narratives and underdeveloped characters and ideas.
I recently started getting into POTA. Kingdom is the first full movie I’ve seen but I watched a video essay explaining what happens in each movie. I really loved the world building, the sets were beautiful, Noah’s culture was set up so perfectly, and the way war and claim to power was shown was also so very lifelike. After this review I definitely need to go back and watch the last three movies because I feel like I’m not getting the full experience of the franchise! (Where did the human girl get skinny jeans from)
Biologically speaking: The humans and the Apes are trying to occupy the same niche in the ecosystem. Nature puts the better suited animal over every time
The point you make about Raka's philosophy regarding humans excites me! I can see how that benign sentiment can develop within ape society into something like Rudyard Kipling's "White Man's Burden" and become a fully bigoted paradigm against humans. The clergy apes like Raka pity the humans. The military apes hate the humans. And there's a persistent myth about humans that can talk without any concrete evidence to support it. The possibilities of this lore really open up with this installment! I can't wait to see what happens, next!
I dont recall the film ever stating raka thought humans were always less. I mean the guy was living in the ruins of an airport with humans shown on the walls. Also he literally says caesar was raised by humans hence his love for them.
What a brilliant movie and a great review. I disagree somewhat with your interpretation of Mays motivations. Of all the characters Mays motivations were the most urgent and dire. Humans are still a dying species and have been separated into basically three groups: the Echos who are feral and can't communicate, the immune who can live in the outer world without being infected by the virus that causes humans to lose their higher brain functions, and lastly the vaulters who live sealed away with the last technological remnants of humanity but can't leave because they are not immune. May might feel guilty for betraying Noa but she also knows that what she is doing could save humanity so she is ultimately ok with her decision. The knowledge in the vault she sees as being too dangerous for the apes to have because it ultimately will put humans on an even more unequal level than currently exist and insure their extinction.
Just watched this yesterday! Gave me Black Panther vibes and Proximus reminded me of Killmonger. No good vs bad, just different outlooks on the same world.
Why did so many people thought this movie was going to flop? Feels like most haven't even watch the last films. The quality stayed so I had faith in it, the trailer was also interesting so it's just weird for me
I still need to see the movie again but did Proximus ever actually say he wanted to eliminate all humans? I saw Mae as the actual villain of the film because she represents the faction of humans that will always exist...a faction that will always want to exterminate all the apes. That's why I view the humans as the actual villains. Also I don't like how Mae feels WAY too contemporary for a story that takes place hundreds of years from today. She feel like a character straight out of the 2020s.
I do remember Proximus saying humans are not to be trusted and that they (apes) should get rid of/"deal with" them (humans) As for mae, I think that was the point. She and her humans cling to a time long gone and instead of try and adapt or integrate into the new world for the sake of peace, they refuse to see anything except what they lost.
If i remember right, Proximus wanted apes to evolve more, as in, evolve to become more powerful. For the apes who never saw ajrplanes and boats, it seems like a magical thing that only humans are capable of, but were stripped of it.
In my eyes I have no problem that someone like Mae would exists. Remember, there are people who still feel strong about Istanbul being in Turkey and not in greece, even thou Turkey get in over 500 years ago.
Proximus did indeed say he wanted to destroy humanity when he pulled aside Noah in the dinner scene. I feel you all are being too idealistic. If you saw Proximus as a human you’d see him as the tyrant he really was. He intended to weaponize humanity’s technology solely for HIS apes development. There’s a reason he specifies HIS evolution instead of all of apes evolution. Mae having dealt directly with Proximus’ apes has a distrust of apes, but especially him. She knew what it would mean for him to learn the dark side of our species. Her choose was a hard one, but it wasn’t a comically villainous one. It’s a real choice that might’ve been made. She’s no villain, she’s a flawed protagonist, a flawed survivor that must learn that not all apes are Proximus. Like we know not all Germans, small Frenchmen, or Italians are evil.
Hello Film Speak, The are 5 more movies planned after "Kingdom". Glad you loved the film. I also love the film because it's so different from the previous 3 "Apes" films. It's more of a straightforward hero's journey that follows the "Star Wars" formula. The visuals & CGI are amazing, the storyline is great, the performances are all top notch & there are callbacks & Easter Eggs to the first five "Apes" films with Charlton Heston & Roddy McDowell. The film should win an Oscar for best visual & CGI effects. It is also doing well at the Box-Office & is outgrossing "War of the Planet of the Apes." In fact, it has not only outgrossed all three of Wes Balls' "Maze Runner" films, but it has also outgrossed all of the original 5 "Apes" movies with Charlton Heston & Roddy McDowell & will likely stay in the fourth-place spot during its' fourth weekend. So "Apes" is doing fine.
Where are you getting "Roman Catholicism" from Proximus? The vibe feels much more like the Roman Empire, even specifically mentioning it in dialogue. Proximus very much gives the sense of Caesar as a divine ruler, with himself as the current Caesar, much like the Roman emperors with whom he shares a name. It even seems like he acknowledges his mortality to Noah in private as if it undermines his philosophy, insisting that he needs to evolve before he inevitably dies.
If you think about it ,there were a lot of Bible references such as the name Noah, the dam being built alongside a huge boat,and the flood having to do with washing away knowledge yet being the catalyst for so much more to come.
If you think about it ,there were a lot of Bible references such as the name Noah, the dam being built alongside a huge boat,and the flood having to do with washing away knowledge yet being the catalyst for so much more to come.
The use of a single religious figure (who died to save his people) to control the masses through the laws given to them by said religious figure. For almost half of Rome’s existence Christianity was used as their major religion (if you consider the Byzantine Empire a continuation of Rome (which is what most historians do)).
I love the trilogy! The relationships and the storyline is AMAZING! But I didn’t see the same type of effort put into the relationships in this film. Especially towards Mei and Noah. The start was very confusing how they acted like they knew each other for years, even dying for Mei mid movie like? Maybe I just miss Ceaser and his gentle and loving nature but I would love rewatch it again and give it a second chance!
@@God_gundam36 yeah but the same style of clothing lasting 300 years? Def not. Clothes don’t even last more than 40 years before they decompose. Unless they were wearing lycra and polyester which take 500.
Why can’t we get this kind of brilliant storytelling with Star Wars? I wish someone would put respect on Anakin, kenobi, Han, Leia and Luke in a way that the sequels and other Disney projects never did.
I wish we could have got to see more of Noa living under Proximus' rule and see Noa take the throne/vault and fufill the true meaning of Ceasar's words
Some things i think are worth note- When Proximus didn't do anything to Anaya for messing up with the food during the dinner scene, i assumed that it was because he was trying to get Noa's favor- appear like a benevolent Ruler. Which he honestly might believe he is. I find it interesting that Proximus is the exact opposite of an antagonist like Zaius from the original films. Where Zaius is adimantly against Apes taking technology and advancing, Proximus is actively pushing towards it. Given how big a fan the director seems to be of the original films i can only assume that this was on purpose, and imo it's a very interesting decision to make. I think that the fact Anaya and Soona were so quick to try and Follow Noa in not doing the eagle ritual, something i can only assume is a right of passage into adulthood, makes me think that Noa has always been somewhat of a leader among his people. Be it because of his position as the elder's father or because he's just the rizzler, his allies and younger apes seem to look up to Noa. Given how reluctant he was to take on the traditions in full i'm interested to see how the eagle clan's culture will evolve in the next film. It'll also be interesting to see just what kind of leader Noa will be, whether or not Raka returns to advise him to some degree.
Maze Runner was definitely better that the "Harry Potter" stuff of THAT time. Magical Beasts wasn't it - and most of those movies were exceptionally directed, even if the scripts weren't quite there.
Honestly I was going to make a video on this topic of the mythology of Kingdom but you said everything I would have wanted to. Excellent work. Also mae the true villain in all this frfr
The cities are beutiful, with the vegetation covering everything...and that crooked rusting boat! Wow! They managed to invent a simien culture, with it's rituals and mythlogy. Magnificent trilogy!
Mae and Proximus aren't the same at all... Mae might as well did a favor for the apes she could easily wipe them all out by launching that. Also who is she to decide who can have or not the knowledge? First this knowledge is HUMAN knowledge, second... DIDN'T NO ONE NOTICE THE HUGE BALLISTIC MISSILE in that base? Do we really want nukes in ape possession? Mae was a hero saving the world 300 years in thr future.
If you think about it ,there were a lot of Bible references such as the name Noah, the dam being built alongside a huge boat,and the flood having to do with washing away knowledge yet being the catalyst for so much more to come.
Ok that's pretty fair. I would say most YA stories aren't for everyone. Just as far as I was aware they were highly regarded. The third one especially. Loved this video btw.
It’s in an area apes aren’t adapted for. Humans are the only apes adapted for life without climbing, we’re the field dwellers. Every other ape is adapted for life around trees, with chimps and orangs primarily moving via branches. Those wide rolling fields that the base is in directly disincentives exploration by apes.
I'm banking on that the next film is going to revisit that space mission that left for Mars at the end of Rise based on the ending of this film. Especially if Ball said that he'd like to make this reboot lead up to PotA and the several nods to space in this film (the telescope, astronaut mural, the hanging model planets).
The movie was solid, but definitely not on the level of the first three. But still, if Ball’s work here is at all indicative of the quality of the Legend of Zelda film, I think we’re in good hands.
Personally I think the surviving humans will become the secret underground human society we see in the original planet of the apes movies. I think the Noah trilogy would build up Ceasars legend as a religion and seeing Apes forming a society, with the third film us seeing them wear clothes more commonly during winter. I think the last trilogy would actually be a remake of the original Planet of the Apes but with the given lore of the previous films.
I think there was a few areas where the movie could have been notably better, but you could arguably say the same about the first entry in the trilogy. I other words, Let him cook
They really lean into how clever Noah was an even showed him doing stuff like fixing the stun spear. I wonder if he's going to evolve into a tinkerer and figure out how more things work from the human age
I will eventually watch this movie. I don't know if it is because I saw the original 60s and 70s movies when I was younger but the new series has never really appealed to me. I am never disappointed in the movies that I get, but I am also never blown away and am always leery of what the next one will be. Almost like I am waiting for the rug to be pulled out from under me. It hasn't happened yet but for some reason I can't ever shake the feeling. That said, this video has convinced me to go to the theater this weekend and catch this movie if it is still playing.
I think the double hero's journey hits pretty hard. On one side you have May bringing the key back to her base but now she carries the virus she can no longer return home and must live the rest of her life in the outer world. Meanwhile Noa returns home and rebuilds the eagle clan but with his new knowledge of the world's origins and all the dangers brewing he has lost the comfort of his home forever. IT is a truly spectacular ending. Maybe it's just nostalgia speaking, but it feels really amazing to see the Planet of the Apes movies reviving old film genres. The Ceasar films were very much a new age biblical epic and this new installment is true to the old fantasy adventures of old.
Ngl the German title Planet of the Apes: New Kingdom is such a better title. Literally one of my only issues with the series is the janky titles other than that they're all damn near perfect
Omg I had THE EXACT same thought watching!! Even the approach to the apes franchise with the reboot FEELS very AC inspired with a new protagonist, passage of time, etc.
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I think the future of this franchise is very bright, and I'm really excited to see where the next film goes. Kingdom was incredible in my opinion, not quite as good as the Andy Serkis trilogy, but still a solid 8.5/10. Noah is a fantastic new main protagonist, we've got some great side characters in Soona and Anaya, and Proximus Caesar was a phenomenal villain. Only complaint is I wish we got a bit more of him
I like the final battle when Noa was singing and calling for birds to attack the villain ape.
I never got to see if too many pop-ups came on my phone. I'm still trying to watch this movie.
@@bernardpowell4494 recommend use the brave navigator.
@@FilmSpeak I would say a decent 7.5/10 movie. Impressive action and likeable characters but very weak storytelling. The movie's way too slow and the main themes feel sidelined and the movie presents generic storylines instead. So overall it feels like a setup for future installments.
When I saw Aniya drop the food I thought he was cooked. But no Proximus was pretty chill about it
Yea me too, Koba would have killed him to try to make a point. Proximus was annoyed sure but even he understood it’d be wasteful to kill an ape over it
@@brytonup1551 fr fr that scene made me like proximus actually it reminded me of the boy with striped pajamas scene where a human is actually killed for doing just that
Same here!
This is why I feel like proximus comes back in a redemption arc. Even the director in interviews said proximus isn't evil he's just curious and misguided. He's a bonobo ape too like rocket was and rocket was the alpha ape at the zoo who Caesar had to overcome in order to escape out of there
@@msrumedia5616rocket is a chimpanzee with alopecia. That is why he doesn’t look like the other chimps but he is a chimp regardless. You’re thinking of Koba, he is a bonobo
I think it’s funny that Proximus was learning about Caesar’s namesake (Julius). Probably incorporating more of Julius Caesar than ape Caesar.
Yes
I also kind of find it tragic, he was clearly taught the origin of Caesar’s name and the great empire he created and so mimicked it. But he didn’t know or wasn’t taught what happened to it and how it fell and that many of its “strengths” and “powers” were what caused its downfall which would inevitably happen again
@@blakemcmillan5680 Trevathan was not yet in the part of the history lessons xD
i loved the fact that we really didnt get to see what noah saw through the scope, just seeing his reaction and eyes widen was enough, great moment in the moview!
Space station
One my favorite scenes the detail on the eye, the heterochroma that is similar to Brighteyes and Ceasar. Beautiful.
If I had to guess, he saw Saturn. He took an interest in poking Saturn in the classroom orrery when he saw it hanging from the ceiling. What are the odds you accidentally see a rather hard target to train a telescope on though? Maybe you’d see a star or two accidentally. With a scope that large, anything in the field of view would pass through in 10-20 seconds. The thought was really cool though! Loved everything about that flick.
@@edvolveI guessed it to be an active satellite. Hence why Mae seemed to react to what she saw.
It could possibly be a wormhole as the first movie actually makes a small reference to a crew of space explorers vanishing into a wormhole
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Took me back to my childhood growing up in church 😂
Hot take. Completely miss the allegory of the biblical Noah and the flood? That story is about people who have misconstrued the “word of god” being washed away be the flood, Noah building an ark (or in this case a metaphorical one) to protect the future of his species, and he and his family train birds who find land where he can bring his people to in order to set up a new home and rebuild.
Holy cow I didn't even put that together. a LOT of drownings happen in this movie
Nice read on that one!
When I first read about that scene being an allegory to Noah, I thought it was a bit of a stretch, but the way you put it, it makes a little bit more sense if you focus on the symbolism and meaning of it.
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who heard “Noa” and knew exactly where things were going 😂
Still it was an interesting spin on that story.
Yeah makes sense. Caesar in war was an allegory for Moses bringing the people to the promised land but unable to live in it himself
Loved the movie and Wes Ball knocked it out of the park with Owen Teague and Kevin Durand's acting. Aside from Raka being wasted, I would've loved to see Noa use the knowledge of the real Caesar to provoke Proximus in their last fight but his defeat was so creative and fitting.
I have a feeling that's not the last we'll see of Raka.
@@FilmSpeak yeah, no way he's actually dead. Drowning in a river is somehow a less convincing movie death than getting crushed by rubble.
RIP our boi Raka, you were awesome. Orangutans are always the highlights of these movies 😂
@@baconberries8097well in the post credit moment there was a sound of an orangután before cutting out, maybe Raka is alive
@@kevincmejiai hope they dont do a koba 2.0 with that move since they did the same thing in dawn, tho it kinda worked bc in war koba was still alive in ces’ mind
Proximus Caesar is a very iconic villain
Seriously! An instant icon.
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Proxi was actually not an evil generic character. Instead a personality wanting to finally force his people together for their advancement. Like any parody, he copied what worked in the past. He never set out to destroy apes into his vision. Instead pool them all together for his new direction. Largely everything we saw him do is exactly what our ancestors did in times of old to expand their empires into what we have today. Hence why he was given history lessons through books.
Yup he is right along side Koba because he was far more pragmatic in his approach.
If I remember correctly, I didn't ever see him commit any real acts of harm towards any apes, only his invading forces who were typically led by silva.
I think the reason why this was my favorite planet of the apes movie at least of the four I’ve seen is probably because when I first started watching that trilogy, I guess I didn’t expect for it to basically be one giant origin if that makes sense? , I wanted to see was the actual planet taken over by apes and that culture. I feel like this movie was what I wanted all along. Because, in the first three movies while good a lot of it felt like a buildup. Like it felt like we were seen the apes take over and even in the third one I never really felt like we got that true “PLANET” . That’s what this movie was to me.
No, I totally get that. That's a big reason why this is my second favorite as well. The Caesar trilogy is masterful, especially Dawn, but the environment, the ruins, the advancements in Ape technology and culture, THAT is the stuff that I want to see from POTA. This struck a perfect balance of evolving the franchise closer to where we're at in the original POTA, while carrying over the parts of the Caesar trilogy that were so effective.
"Bay Area of the Apes"
war should have been more of them actually beginning to have a start of a bigger civilization for the apes, they were still a medium sized tribe at best.
This movie felt like a breath of fresh air. The movies with Caesar feel way too small for a character that is supposed to have such a large impact on the evolved apes. His group felt like a struggling refugee camp and not a growing civilization.
I agree with you on the front of going into the original trilogy wanting that "planet" aspect it held potential for but yea this 4th one does bring that to the front. I wish Proximus was in the movie longer but im hoping that Noa's tribe grows to that KINGDOM level like we're playing city builder
Didn’t realize until I rewatched the first movie that the symbol on the necklace is from the window in Caesar’s room, which he then drew on his cell wall when in captivity. I’m doing a rewatch of the trilogy with my wife, who hasn’t seen them yet. I don’t remember the symbol showing up in the other movies, so I thought it was an interesting callback.
It was shown in the other movies but not as a symbol as ceaser was still alive at that point, i think when he died is when the symbol represented him
The symbol comes back in dawn in drawn on the big wall of the apes home
It's fun spotting the symbol
It's basically the monkey Cross
The symbol has been shown even since Rise, where it was painted onto road signs as a sort of symbol of ape rebellion/empowerment. When Caesar died and was subsequently deified, it became more of a religious symbol.
What Wes Ball did with this movie astounded me! Continuing the story of Caesar by exploring his legacy as an almost religious figure was brilliant. On top of that the VFX were immaculate and the performances just as impressive. An epic return to this world that has me wanting a lot more!
It’s amazing indeed, he built a new world from the foundation of the last POTA trilogy and established a new dynamic between the humans and apes. I love it’s my favorite along side Dawn.
This film is fantastic! After seeing it twice now I’m convinced the Planet of the Apes property deserves an open world survival game.
I’m just imagining choosing a species of ape, foraging for materials, climbing and traversing an overgrown world, building up a settlement, and fending off rival apes. That’s just a simple concept but it sure sounds captivating to me.
Regardless I’m very much looking forward to what this franchise brings next because personally I haven’t gotten enough of it yet!
The game is an awesome idea that I’ve been thinking about also. Great property
The closest we have to that now would be Ancestors: The Humankind Odyssey
The first thing I learned about this movie is a friend calling the villain’s Caesar’s Legion from New Vegas. Someone looks to Roman history to reestablish society and goes about this by conquering, enslaving, and erasing the identity of various tribes. Also they both take the name Caesar
My thoughts exactly
Lmao same i thought of NV so many times during the movie
I really like Mae’s character. Because, let’s be real, she is what humans would be if they were really in this situation. She sees these apes as unnatural. It’s wrong. If we were really in this situation, we would do everything in our power to end these apes. So I love the way they characterized her. She’s on a mission for humanity, whilst finding humanity in the apes along the way. Now she’s set on a course where she’s gonna be torn between sides and will probably be forced to choose.
I hope she ends up being the main villain. I really like the actress and part of me wants her to come around but if done correctly, her developing into a reluctant but determined villain would be fascinating.
@@jamesmarshall6619The movies tend to have a shifting villain though.
We would? I would be of the option that the genie was out of the bottle and it was time to build back better. “Unnatural”? Nonsense. These are people, same as us. Rakka was right. I hope he lived.
@@Werebat as a whole we would. Your opinion would not matter and there’d be a lot of monkey blood.
The other humans in the bunker turned her into an agent.
Honestly they mastered the concept of keeping Caesar in the movie without disrespecting his death.
This video has the term “ape odyssey” in it I’m sold
🫡 just doing my duty!
Had a tonne of fun editing this one!! :D fun fact: It was through editing this that I found out a Zelda movie is happening :O
Dude you CRUSHED it. Can't thank you enough for the work you put into this. Turned out even better than I could've hoped. Also, yeah! I'm so excited for it too haha Wes proved to me he's THE GUY for Zelda.
You did a great job
It would be cool if they showed apes from other countries speaking different languages
have the apes not understand eachother cause of said language barrier, have some humans tho be able to speak between diff ape tribes due to them knowing different languages, that'd be a unique situation 2 apes not understanding eachother language wise but having a human intermediate their convo, have this 2 characters who look like eachother not be able to understand eachother without this other (the human)
Interesting, I would love to see a mandrill clan!
They could use sign language, since it's universal. So no problem 😂
@ArnodJ 😅 you know every country have different signs system. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure it varies from country to country.
@@mirthy8219 I thought it's universal, maybe I'm wrong :o
This is how you continue a franchise properly. A story that is far removed from the original ceasar trilogy and is able to stand on it's own while still acknowledging the original. Most franchises milk the IP in the worst way possible.
It was a great movie, the human character was memorable. That one scene on the dam was shocking to me.
Yeah! Lot of great suspense and tension.
I think an element of Kingdom that was quite brilliant was the capsulating of Malcom and Dreyfus' characters into the one of Mae. Having Mae understand the hubris of humanity that caused the apes to become highly intelligent and to create a virus that almost wiped-out humanity, brought about horrific wars over resources, and to cause many remaining humans to lose their ability to speak makes her similar to Malcom, along with her ability to see Noa as an intelligent individual. Yet, as had Dreyfus in the "Dawn of the Planet of the Apes" (2014) film, Mae still carried the philosophy of seeing the world she lived in be actually belonging to humans alone, not to the apes that also had lived there and were now as intelligent as humans. Furthermore, her willingness to betray her comrades for her beliefs was much like Dreyfus' decision to commit suicide and do so while murdering his two loyal men.
Great review of a great film. I will say though I don't really agree with the interpretation that Mae's betrayal was a matter of not trusting the Eagle Clan with the knowledge. Rather, I saw it as a more Machiavellian move, with Mae willing to sacrifice Noa and his clan if it meant denying Proximus the advanced weaponry in the vault. It's still a betrayal, of course, and both Mae and Noa clearly see it that way, but it's less a reflection of her succumbing to her prejudices against apes and more about how she sees herself (she reveals the existence of the gun to the apes in order to save Soona's life, after all). Mae sees herself as a soldier in a war for survival, and is willing to do anything it takes to accomplish her mission (first evidence of which was her killing Trevathan). At the end of the day, escaping from the apes and eliminating an avowed enemy in Proximus was more important than honoring her deal with Noa.
If you didn't know, Wes Ball was going to make a full cgi film called Mouseguard and worked with Matt Reeves on it. It sadly got cancelled with the Disney and Fox merger(at least that's what I believe I heard). So it's not completely random as to why he was chosen
I did! And the footage looked great that he released. I only recently found out about his friendship with Reeves and career in VFX. In hindsight, yeah, he makes a lot sense. Happy for him!
after this film, I pretty sure he will be given creative control.
I met the author of those books as a kid. That’s great he’s gotten this far to even get a movie potentially one day.
You made me realize this movie is way deeper than I thought
Also jumping 300 years gives the potential for a few series to fill in the gaps
I'm always impressed by Owen Teague in everything he's in, especially in recent years. I always think a movie is great if I find myself wanting to watch it again once it's over, and I personally did.
Easily the best video I’ve seen on this film. I’ve seen it twice now and it was even better the second time. I think people are overlooking/dismissing the brilliance of this one because of their fondness of Caesar’s trilogy. Everyone has their own opinion and taste but you completely nailed the themes presented here. I missed the knowledge and power dynamic and looking back it was so obvious lol. Thank you and I couldn’t hit the like button fast enough. What a wonderful video!!
I’m so happy I got to watch this movie in theaters! This is now my second favorite movie in the reboot POTA series after Dawn. It’s so good
I think that this movie lags ever so slightly behind the trilogy which is way beyond anything I could have expected. The thing that I sorely miss about Matt Reeves directing is the sense of texture that he was able to develop. It was as if you could feel the fog in Dawn or the snow in War, and that simply isn't something that I feel in this one because I think that that texture is unique to Reeves. I don't think that there was a "No" moment either necessarily like there was in Rise not that there needed to be, but it was something that was uniquely powerful in Rise. That's enough negativity though, this film was fantastic. Something I loved in particular was the telescope/space motif, and I really hope that that is something that they retain and further develop in future. I'm a mathematician who has had the opportunity to work alongside astronomers (astronomy is incredibly mathematically dense, but to be honest, they really just needed a programmer), and something I've thought about a lot is the start of the scientific revolution. In our timeline, it started in astronomy with Copernicus, but a part of me wonders when I look at the sky if that is always how it happens like if the stars are, in a sense, unique in their ability to instill a capacity for wonder in us. With the telescope being Noah's enlightenment, I wonder if that's what Wes Ball was potentially going for. I love this film it's like an 8.6/10 while still leaving room for a potential Dawn-quality sequel.
The only issue I had with this film, was that as an Aussie I CAN NOTICE THE AUSTRALIAN BUSHLAND!
hahaha
As a biologist it was a bit difficult to see Baobabs at the start and pretend it's temperate America. Other than that, great movie
I think the entire movie takes place in California. The apes wikia says that Raka's fortress is LAX.
@@albatross4920 rakas fortress is lax no way bro
@@albatross4920 yes, but scenes were shot in Australia. He meant to say that it didn't help the immersion that the landscape was very Australian even though the movie is set in California
I thought this film was brilliant and a great continuation of the Apes movies BUT I think we will look back at it as a film that did a better job setting up future movies than being a great movie in it’s own right
I hope you’re right. There’s so much fun storytelling still left to be had.
how could it not be both?
True, I love how they reset the human/ape dynamic. The prior movie they were devolving, in this is looks like they have gained immunity to the virus but are out numbered.
Noa won’t be naive like his father not explore the world because he has so much to learn.
This movie was absolutely amazing honestly I don’t get why some people didn’t like it it did everything it needed to do which was be a epic ape movie
How about because of weak storytelling ? Impressive action and likeable characters are still no compensation for poor pacing and underwhelming narratives and underdeveloped characters and ideas.
I recently started getting into POTA. Kingdom is the first full movie I’ve seen but I watched a video essay explaining what happens in each movie. I really loved the world building, the sets were beautiful, Noah’s culture was set up so perfectly, and the way war and claim to power was shown was also so very lifelike. After this review I definitely need to go back and watch the last three movies because I feel like I’m not getting the full experience of the franchise!
(Where did the human girl get skinny jeans from)
Biologically speaking:
The humans and the Apes are trying to occupy the same niche in the ecosystem. Nature puts the better suited animal over every time
Yep. Great way of putting it!
Very good movie. I saw it twice. Mae was cool and mysterious. Noa was truly a noble hero.
The point you make about Raka's philosophy regarding humans excites me! I can see how that benign sentiment can develop within ape society into something like Rudyard Kipling's "White Man's Burden" and become a fully bigoted paradigm against humans. The clergy apes like Raka pity the humans. The military apes hate the humans. And there's a persistent myth about humans that can talk without any concrete evidence to support it. The possibilities of this lore really open up with this installment! I can't wait to see what happens, next!
I dont recall the film ever stating raka thought humans were always less. I mean the guy was living in the ruins of an airport with humans shown on the walls. Also he literally says caesar was raised by humans hence his love for them.
I think he meant less as in not ape. Like we see pets as lesser to us, not worse, but less. They (not that I agree) don’t think, feel, and act like us
What a brilliant movie and a great review. I disagree somewhat with your interpretation of Mays motivations. Of all the characters Mays motivations were the most urgent and dire. Humans are still a dying species and have been separated into basically three groups: the Echos who are feral and can't communicate, the immune who can live in the outer world without being infected by the virus that causes humans to lose their higher brain functions, and lastly the vaulters who live sealed away with the last technological remnants of humanity but can't leave because they are not immune. May might feel guilty for betraying Noa but she also knows that what she is doing could save humanity so she is ultimately ok with her decision. The knowledge in the vault she sees as being too dangerous for the apes to have because it ultimately will put humans on an even more unequal level than currently exist and insure their extinction.
The fact they're slowly growing into a culture where names like Cornelius or Zaïus feel normal is really doing it for me.
Just watched this yesterday! Gave me Black Panther vibes and Proximus reminded me of Killmonger. No good vs bad, just different outlooks on the same world.
Why did so many people thought this movie was going to flop? Feels like most haven't even watch the last films. The quality stayed so I had faith in it, the trailer was also interesting so it's just weird for me
I still need to see the movie again but did Proximus ever actually say he wanted to eliminate all humans? I saw Mae as the actual villain of the film because she represents the faction of humans that will always exist...a faction that will always want to exterminate all the apes. That's why I view the humans as the actual villains. Also I don't like how Mae feels WAY too contemporary for a story that takes place hundreds of years from today. She feel like a character straight out of the 2020s.
I do remember Proximus saying humans are not to be trusted and that they (apes) should get rid of/"deal with" them (humans)
As for mae, I think that was the point. She and her humans cling to a time long gone and instead of try and adapt or integrate into the new world for the sake of peace, they refuse to see anything except what they lost.
If i remember right, Proximus wanted apes to evolve more, as in, evolve to become more powerful.
For the apes who never saw ajrplanes and boats, it seems like a magical thing that only humans are capable of, but were stripped of it.
In my eyes I have no problem that someone like Mae would exists. Remember, there are people who still feel strong about Istanbul being in Turkey and not in greece, even thou Turkey get in over 500 years ago.
Yes, I believe he did in fact at one point mentioned that he wanted to destroy the humans
Proximus did indeed say he wanted to destroy humanity when he pulled aside Noah in the dinner scene. I feel you all are being too idealistic. If you saw Proximus as a human you’d see him as the tyrant he really was. He intended to weaponize humanity’s technology solely for HIS apes development. There’s a reason he specifies HIS evolution instead of all of apes evolution. Mae having dealt directly with Proximus’ apes has a distrust of apes, but especially him. She knew what it would mean for him to learn the dark side of our species. Her choose was a hard one, but it wasn’t a comically villainous one. It’s a real choice that might’ve been made. She’s no villain, she’s a flawed protagonist, a flawed survivor that must learn that not all apes are Proximus. Like we know not all Germans, small Frenchmen, or Italians are evil.
Great intro! Look forward to seeing the full review!
Thank you! 🙏🏻
Isn't this a full review?
@@JediKnight207 It is. They probably just couldn't watch the full thing in one sitting. I get it.
Watched this in screen X yesterday sat in the middle was A Wonderful Day!
I need more i'm obssesed with all the movies
Me too. POTA is my favorite saga. I wish there would be more stuff, not only a few books and the movies.
This video deserves more views
Thank you 🙏🏻❤️
It’s refreshing to see a movie analysis that’s positive for once
Great analysis ❤️, new subscriber
Hello Film Speak,
The are 5 more movies planned after "Kingdom". Glad you loved the film. I also love the film because it's so different from the previous 3 "Apes" films. It's more of a straightforward hero's journey that follows the "Star Wars" formula. The visuals & CGI are amazing, the storyline is great, the performances are all top notch & there are callbacks & Easter Eggs to the first five "Apes" films with Charlton Heston & Roddy McDowell. The film should win an Oscar for best visual & CGI effects. It is also doing well at the Box-Office & is outgrossing "War of the Planet of the Apes." In fact, it has not only outgrossed all three of Wes Balls' "Maze Runner" films, but it has also outgrossed all of the original 5 "Apes" movies with Charlton Heston & Roddy McDowell & will likely stay in the fourth-place spot during its' fourth weekend. So "Apes" is doing fine.
Where are you getting "Roman Catholicism" from Proximus? The vibe feels much more like the Roman Empire, even specifically mentioning it in dialogue. Proximus very much gives the sense of Caesar as a divine ruler, with himself as the current Caesar, much like the Roman emperors with whom he shares a name. It even seems like he acknowledges his mortality to Noah in private as if it undermines his philosophy, insisting that he needs to evolve before he inevitably dies.
Yea I was confused at this as well. Probably just a slip up and meant Roman Empire?
If you think about it ,there were a lot of Bible references such as the name Noah, the dam being built alongside a huge boat,and the flood having to do with washing away knowledge yet being the catalyst for so much more to come.
If you think about it ,there were a lot of Bible references such as the name Noah, the dam being built alongside a huge boat,and the flood having to do with washing away knowledge yet being the catalyst for so much more to come.
@@RaymondMichaelBarrera so? that has nothing to do with what he said, which is that he gets a roman catholicism vibe from proximus
The use of a single religious figure (who died to save his people) to control the masses through the laws given to them by said religious figure. For almost half of Rome’s existence Christianity was used as their major religion (if you consider the Byzantine Empire a continuation of Rome (which is what most historians do)).
I love the trilogy! The relationships and the storyline is AMAZING! But I didn’t see the same type of effort put into the relationships in this film. Especially towards Mei and Noah. The start was very confusing how they acted like they knew each other for years, even dying for Mei mid movie like? Maybe I just miss Ceaser and his gentle and loving nature but I would love rewatch it again and give it a second chance!
One thing I HATED about this film was that after 300 yrs humans at the end were still dressed like they were in 2020🤣
because there is an outbreak, they cant get the virus thats why they wear masks
I mean they're living underground, I doubt producing clothing is that much of a priority
@@God_gundam36 yeah but the same style of clothing lasting 300 years? Def not. Clothes don’t even last more than 40 years before they decompose. Unless they were wearing lycra and polyester which take 500.
@@bofawhatsbofa4593I’m sure they can’t go to the mall
@@Loch1210 lol I know. But clothes don’t last that long.
Now they are evolving naturally but a lot faster than human both genetically and environmentally
I liked how the Eagle Clan literally sang Proximus to death
Im hyped to see where they take the franchise after! (if this film makes any money)
Loved the film. Hated that both raka and proximus died from falling into water. Also hate how truly very little we saw Proximus
Still think Proximus needs to be alive in the next film. raka too
Not to mention the gorilla also fkn dies by drowning. What the heck
Raka might’ve survived though tbf
There's an audio bit at the end of the credits. Raka is alive
Did Raka really die, though? I have my hopes.
Why can’t we get this kind of brilliant storytelling with Star Wars? I wish someone would put respect on Anakin, kenobi, Han, Leia and Luke in a way that the sequels and other Disney projects never did.
I wish we could have got to see more of Noa living under Proximus' rule and see Noa take the throne/vault and fufill the true meaning of Ceasar's words
Love that you mentioned Apocalypto. Fortunately saw it shortly after this movie and saw a lot of similarities, and I loved them both so much
Some things i think are worth note-
When Proximus didn't do anything to Anaya for messing up with the food during the dinner scene, i assumed that it was because he was trying to get Noa's favor- appear like a benevolent Ruler. Which he honestly might believe he is.
I find it interesting that Proximus is the exact opposite of an antagonist like Zaius from the original films. Where Zaius is adimantly against Apes taking technology and advancing, Proximus is actively pushing towards it.
Given how big a fan the director seems to be of the original films i can only assume that this was on purpose, and imo it's a very interesting decision to make.
I think that the fact Anaya and Soona were so quick to try and Follow Noa in not doing the eagle ritual, something i can only assume is a right of passage into adulthood, makes me think that Noa has always been somewhat of a leader among his people. Be it because of his position as the elder's father or because he's just the rizzler, his allies and younger apes seem to look up to Noa.
Given how reluctant he was to take on the traditions in full i'm interested to see how the eagle clan's culture will evolve in the next film. It'll also be interesting to see just what kind of leader Noa will be, whether or not Raka returns to advise him to some degree.
Maze Runner was definitely better that the "Harry Potter" stuff of THAT time. Magical Beasts wasn't it - and most of those movies were exceptionally directed, even if the scripts weren't quite there.
They should call the next film “Legacy of the Planet of the Apes” where Noa finds out about his legacy of Caesar with him being his descendent
United we are stronger lets make our own communities together
Honestly I was going to make a video on this topic of the mythology of Kingdom but you said everything I would have wanted to. Excellent work.
Also mae the true villain in all this frfr
I adored this film. Nice seeing others being just as enthusiastic about it!
I love how proximus went out lol the OG Caesar would be proud 😂
The cities are beutiful, with the vegetation covering everything...and that crooked rusting boat! Wow! They managed to invent a simien culture, with it's rituals and mythlogy. Magnificent trilogy!
Mae and Proximus aren't the same at all...
Mae might as well did a favor for the apes she could easily wipe them all out by launching that.
Also who is she to decide who can have or not the knowledge?
First this knowledge is HUMAN knowledge, second...
DIDN'T NO ONE NOTICE THE HUGE BALLISTIC MISSILE in that base?
Do we really want nukes in ape possession?
Mae was a hero saving the world 300 years in thr future.
If you think about it ,there were a lot of Bible references such as the name Noah, the dam being built alongside a huge boat,and the flood having to do with washing away knowledge yet being the catalyst for so much more to come.
worth watching. more of a classic take on the originals. leaving me want to see what the next one will show us, from space.
Since when were The Maze Runner movies disliked? That trilogy is amazing!
disliked by critics, liked by the people it was made for.
It's not that I disliked them, they were fine? I enjoyed the first one. I just wasn't super into them as a whole. I get why people were though!
Ok that's pretty fair. I would say most YA stories aren't for everyone. Just as far as I was aware they were highly regarded. The third one especially. Loved this video btw.
In the 300 years since WAR, how come no apes have found that human fortress? Do the humans inside assume they are safe from an ape invasion?
I mean, its in the middle of a VAST rolling field, nothing else for miles besides that fortress. Pretty not-ideal habitat for apes
It’s in an area apes aren’t adapted for. Humans are the only apes adapted for life without climbing, we’re the field dwellers.
Every other ape is adapted for life around trees, with chimps and orangs primarily moving via branches. Those wide rolling fields that the base is in directly disincentives exploration by apes.
I'm banking on that the next film is going to revisit that space mission that left for Mars at the end of Rise based on the ending of this film. Especially if Ball said that he'd like to make this reboot lead up to PotA and the several nods to space in this film (the telescope, astronaut mural, the hanging model planets).
Definitely my favorite POTA movie
WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY🗣️
Proximus literally Caesar from Caesar’s legion from Fallout New Vegas, brings all the tribes together under one roof and lives a bit of Latin
How would you rank the reboot movies?
Dawn
Kingdom
War
Rise
WHAT A WONDERFUL DAYYY
The movie was solid, but definitely not on the level of the first three. But still, if Ball’s work here is at all indicative of the quality of the Legend of Zelda film, I think we’re in good hands.
Personally I think the surviving humans will become the secret underground human society we see in the original planet of the apes movies. I think the Noah trilogy would build up Ceasars legend as a religion and seeing Apes forming a society, with the third film us seeing them wear clothes more commonly during winter. I think the last trilogy would actually be a remake of the original Planet of the Apes but with the given lore of the previous films.
I was going to comment on a recent video asking if you have any thoughts on this movie actually. I enjoyed it personally.
LOVED the film. One of my favorites of the year so far!
I think there was a few areas where the movie could have been notably better, but you could arguably say the same about the first entry in the trilogy. I other words, Let him cook
What a wonderful day!!
They really lean into how clever Noah was an even showed him doing stuff like fixing the stun spear. I wonder if he's going to evolve into a tinkerer and figure out how more things work from the human age
Proximus kinda looks like Koba a little bit too
I will eventually watch this movie. I don't know if it is because I saw the original 60s and 70s movies when I was younger but the new series has never really appealed to me. I am never disappointed in the movies that I get, but I am also never blown away and am always leery of what the next one will be. Almost like I am waiting for the rug to be pulled out from under me. It hasn't happened yet but for some reason I can't ever shake the feeling.
That said, this video has convinced me to go to the theater this weekend and catch this movie if it is still playing.
These new movies are way better than the old rubber suit movies
I have crazy theory that May may be a time traveler and we'll see some sort of sci Fi time travel within this new film series. Just a thought
I watched this move with my aunties they died crying 😭💀
My favorite movie series! Since I was a kid, I even enjoyed the Tim Burton one. But these 4 films are a masterpiece
Very good video Ty!!
This is a terrific review.👍👏
I think the double hero's journey hits pretty hard. On one side you have May bringing the key back to her base but now she carries the virus she can no longer return home and must live the rest of her life in the outer world. Meanwhile Noa returns home and rebuilds the eagle clan but with his new knowledge of the world's origins and all the dangers brewing he has lost the comfort of his home forever. IT is a truly spectacular ending.
Maybe it's just nostalgia speaking, but it feels really amazing to see the Planet of the Apes movies reviving old film genres. The Ceasar films were very much a new age biblical epic and this new installment is true to the old fantasy adventures of old.
The people need a video on Furiosa
That's in the works, don't worry. Gonna be a post VOD release one. There's too much great footage to reference to not work from that!
@FilmSpeak thank you
I can’t wait for this fifth installment ❤
Hope there is a way they can all live together. So Caeser was right.
I really hope that we're not done with Proximus yet. He has a lot of potential and I felt his character was wasted a bit.
Proximus is one of the coolest villians of recent years
Ngl the German title Planet of the Apes: New Kingdom is such a better title. Literally one of my only issues with the series is the janky titles other than that they're all damn near perfect
I know it wouldn’t make sense lore wise lol, but this movie made me feel like they could make a perfect far cry/assassins creed type game
Omg I had THE EXACT same thought watching!! Even the approach to the apes franchise with the reboot FEELS very AC inspired with a new protagonist, passage of time, etc.
I tought it was going to be a cash grab but nah its pretty good