Hope this helps those out there who are looking for a new laptop and unsure about the display! Also, I released my video reviewing the RX 6700 XT which you can find here - th-cam.com/video/_7xZ_kbCTKk/w-d-xo.html
Good to know, but since it takes the big bucks for that ratio it does nothing to help those of us in a lower budget range on machines. $1800 is a lot of money. Thats $1900+ with state tax, add in a warranty package, software licenses etc. and you're talking a $2500 to $2750 shell out for the average consumer to get a system up and running.
It's cause we hit the like button. Whenever he makes these more informational videos, he gets a lot of positive feedback, and I'm glad cause we get more videos like these
@@MatthewMoniz I've found myself more likely to watch your videos with content like this. I think this is why I gravitate to Linus, MrWhosTheBoss and TechAltar. Keep it up Matthew.
I am pissed about it! I always hated 16:10 displays back in the 2000's and said good riddance once laptops switched to 16:9. I can't believe it is making a comeback now.
@@cemsengul16 laptops switched to 16 : 9 because people were doing productivity work primarily from desktop and laptops were used mostly for videos But since laptops have gained Major performance increases and since Covid-19 people have been working on their laptops and the manufacturers are switching to accommodate.
To determine aspect ratio The resolution of the laptop will determine the aspect ratio. Just take the resolution and divide them and use the handy guide below: Laptop resolution 1920 x 1080 just take 1920 divide by 1080 = 1.77 From table below 1.77 is 16:9 Laptop resolution 3840x2160 just take 3840 divide by 2160 = 1.77. ==> 16:9 LG Gram 16" and 17" is 2560x1600. Just take 2560 divide 1600 = 1.6 ==> 16:10 LG Gram 14" (2021) is 1920x1200. Just take 1920 divide by 1200 = 1.6 ==> 16:10 Surface Book 3 15" is 3240 x 2160. Just take 3240 divide 2160 = 1.5 ==> 3:2 FYI Macs are 16:10, and iPads are 4:3. Hope it helps. Aspect Ratio Guide 4:3 = 1.33 : 1 3:2 = 1.5 : 1 16:10 = 1.6 : 1 16:9 = 1.77 : 1 21:9 = 2.35 : 1
16:10 is close to the Golden Ratio (1.61), personally, it feels more natural to me. 3:2 is the same aspect ratio of 35mm film. I think these numbers are chosen very thoughtfully by manufacturers.
Damn I recently bought a 16:9 aspect laptop, and I don't watch movies and play games on it rather do college work and coding a few times. What a bummer! Wish there was a scheme outta nowhere that I could exchange this system to a larger and at least 16:10 aspect ratio. Informative vid for new buyers (Y)
I think I would prefer 16:10, however I snap windows left-right all the time. That is where 16:9 really comes in handy. I wonder if there is a big difference between the feel of 8:9 versus 4:5 in that regard.
Well I'm happy to know that the laptop I'm planning to buy (lenovo legion 5 pro) has the recommended aspect ratio of 16/10. Plus it's 1440p @ 165Hz and has a peek brightness of 500 nits
@@Hello303656 Hey there, unfortunately I haven't bought this laptop, because as a student that doesn't do a lot of gaming, I decided that I didn't really need that much power. But from all the reviews I've watched it looks like an amazing laptop
I will never switch from 3:2. It's better for nearly everything, and for the few amount of movies/videos I watch on my laptop it's still really good. I don't game on my laptop much either but when I do it's usually older games or emulators, where the taller screen is actually BETTER because it's closer to 4:3.
Good video for beginners. But you gotta be careful with these comparisons. It's not only about aspect ratio. Resolution/Pixel density matters a lot to what you can show on the display. I believe the Surface Book has a higher resolution thus it can show almost double the rows in excel. It's not only because of the 3:2 display. Since this video aims towards people who are not very familiar with this stuff, it's important to show them the hole story. I.e. I am pretty sure that a notebook with 16:9 but QHD screen can display more stuff than a 16:10 FHD - both horizontally and vertically. So the showed examples can be a little misleading especially for beginners. But still - great video as always. Very thoughtful and different than the usual ones!
Depends on what you are using it for. As I do work primarily, 14 inch 16:10 looks almost as big as a 15 inch 16:9 because of the additional vertical space. I feel that the LG Gram 16 inch is the perfect compromise. I am using my Surface Book 2 which is 3:2 and I love it. I will never ever go back to buying 16:9 anymore. FYI, the iPads are 4:3 and the Macs are all 16:10. One way to compare is like this: 4:3 = 1.33 : 1 3:2 = 1.5 : 1 16:10 = 1.6 : 1 16:9 = 1.77 : 1 21:9 = 2.35 : 1 So as you can see, the larger the number the wider the screen. The wider the screen the less vertical space you will have....even word, excel and powerpoint with the Ribbon and Tabs take up a fair amount of vertical real estate and looks especially bad on 16:9 or wider display because it gives you very little document space to work with. And in the end you have to zoom out which makes everything look small. Everything except watching videos and movies, you should always go for a taller vertical space. FYI I am only referring to laptops only. As 4K (3840x2160) is still 16:9 aspect, i.e., 1.77:1. Only go for that for work if you are going to buy a large 27 to 32 inch monitors. It is ideal for work because even if it is split screen, the documents on both sides will look large enough and wide enough.
Hello Joseph, you hit the nail on the head. You really focused on the productivity issue. My work requires working on lengthy documents on Ms Word and tabs/ribbon consumes most viewing space. Most companies like mine gave 14inch laptop, after taking hell of requests /approvals they are okay to provide 15.6 inch laptop instead of 16inch laptop for which I pitched. I am very sad and frustrated, could you share your views, as what I saw in market 16 inch has a better viewing angle.
@@Shivs.adv. I understand how you may feel. I am assuming that "viewing angle" you meant ability to view more of your working space. So you will find a big difference from 15.6" to 16" if the aspect ratios are different. If the aspect ratios remain the same, there won't be a significant difference in 15.6" or 16". If you are stuck with 16:9 aspect or wider, your only recourse is either 1. Minimise the ribbon to increase vertical working space (in which case it gets annoying when you need to use functions on the ribbon often) or 2. Or just use it to watch movies period (just kidding. If you have to work on it you just have to) The latest Macbooks (Air and Pro) have a notch. Although many have been complaining about it, it actually has benefits. With the notch, Apple actually made the laptop screen taller. The menubar now resides in a brand new vertical area of the screen where the notch is without affecting the working space. This actually increases the vertical workspace slightly for the new Macs. And brings the aspect ratio to somewhere around 1.54:1 where previously it was 1.60:1. Of course there are other factors to consider like resolution, text comfort size etc. In 2022, I feel that laptops should not be lower than 2K and same goes for monitor size. In fact, in 2022/23, if you are buying a monitor, I feel that if your eyesight is not what it once was and you should go for nothing less than 27" (32" if you don't find it too big. I recently bought a 4K 32" and for those sizes, nothing less than 4K). If you buy 24 inches, nothing less than 2K. Forget 1080p in 2023 even though the prices look super attractive. For work, the sharper texts on higher resolutions is worth the slightly higher prices. 4K monitors have become so much more affordable in 2022/23. The price differences can be as low as $150 during sales. And it is so much worth it spend that little extra. If price is an issue than of course go get the 1080p (even thought I feel you still should not). The monitor is something you are going to be staring at whole day. You will be glad you spent that bit more.
@@JCTY299 Really sorry for this late message, thanks a lot for giving this broad understanding 🙏Unfortunately, i have been all struggling and went on war with top management. After some hope, they might be okay to issue a laptop of 15.6inch having 16.10 aspect ratio, the proposed laptop model is "Dell Precision 5570 Mobile Workstation". I see on google that it has 16.10 aspect ratio. My organization says there's high cost factor in procuring 16inch laptop, and they can consider Dell Precision 5570 Mobile Workstation having 16:10 aspect ratio. I am perplexed, will this cater to my 16inch laptop requirement (as i feel conformable in higher screen Vertical/Length). Likewise, will there be a difference b/w 16:10 aspect ratio in a 16-inch form factor vs 16:10 aspect ratio in a 15-inch form factor?
I'm a huge fan of 3:2 but I get what you're saying here! I prefer the depth for web content and because I feel 16:9 is too wide, despite matching the majority of video content.
One thing that often gets overlooked as that the aspect ratio can have an impact on the keyboard layout you'll get. With 16:9, you usually get a Num pad because the deck is wider. With 16:10, for the same size screen otherwise, you often loose the Num pad because the deck becomes just not wide enough, especially on systems with less than 17" displays, of which most of us use. With 3:2, you most often lose the Num Pad altogether. As a software engineer, the Num pad isn't an option, it is a necessity. There's always a trade-off for everything.
All of my screens, as well as all my laptops have been 16:9, but I always feel that laptops feel very cramped when compared to desktop monitors with the same ratio. I have an easy time believing that a 16:10 ratio on laptops feels a lot better.
Timing of this video couldn't be more precise. Just yesterday I searched '16:10 vs 16:9 aspect ratio' Thanks for making this video so now that I can buy the upcoming Lenovo Legion 5 pro without having doubts about its aspect ratio.
I've rewarded the idiots who dictated the 16:9 displays on ALL laptops for over a decade by not buying one for that entire time. Last time I looked, most laptops are used by business and/or home productivity users who are mostly looking at portrait documents. What I really want is for 4:3 to come back, but I guess that's asking too much in an environment clearly controlled by lunatics.
Thanks for the video! If you have the time, could you maybe do a similar video discussing the pros/cons of 4k vs QHD vs FHD, number of hertz, etc.? Seems like 2021 is absolutely wild with the variations this year and it's tough to figure out the sweet spot of finding the right display.
My preference will greatly depend on screen size too. For ultrabooks, give me the squarest screen possible. It's easy enough to watch movies on a small screen but the compromise that 16:9 presents for productivity and readability at 13.3" is way too severe in my experience in fact, the closer to a square the more very real sq inches you get at a given diagonal measurement. At 15.6"+ I don't mind 16:9 and in many cases prefer it.
What I love in this chanel is this, this videos that differs your channel from the others. I really like your reviews, but I think this videos when you expose your opinion about different matters really complements your channel. Excellent work!
I like this videos your currently making. It really helps for those who are new in buying laptops (like me). This videos are definitely unique and I hope you continue making vidoes like this. As always. Thank you Mat! Support here from the Philippines 🇵🇭
1:00 16/9 have not "always" be the standard aspect ratio. I used to have a 4/3 1600x1200 15" Thinkpad T41 back in the day, then all my laptop where 16/10 until my current P50... but I totally agree it's about time we can choose also the aspect ratio of a laptop according to its usage (and hopefully ext. monitor, high res. 16x10 are very expensive compared to standard 16x9 one).
Admitted an odd man out, I prefer 16:9 for snapping 2 small utility windows (files, calculator, notepad, etc.) with 1 main document window that's how I work. 16:10 and 3:2 aren't wide enough for my work setup. 16:9 is even better on 15" or larger laptops with numpad since I can keep the utility windows on the numpad side and main work window on the trackpad side 👍
I went to 3:2 screen a couple of years ago. I'm never going back. Writing, webpage scrolling, and productivity in general is way more comfortable with that aspect ratio.
I agree: 16:10 is the way to go. What Matthew couldn’t mention here is that 16:10 is the aspect ratio of every Mac notebook, so if you’re thinking of getting a Mac, that’s what you can expect.
I just ordered the LG Gram 2021 model! I loved the 2020 model which turned out to be very reliable and stable, and I'm really looking forward to the newer one.
Good video. It's all down to personal preference & use case. I do a bit of everything on my laptop (HP Spectre 2 in 1), a decent amount of PC & emulated gaming, MS Word/OneNote/PowerPoint/Outlook productivity work, presentations, some coding, & a fair amount of TV & film, so 16:9 is ideal for me. Some additional vertical space would be nice, but I really hate black bars wasting display real estate.
I have a very different view than you on this. Laptops have not always been 16:9. The modern 16:9 TV ruined laptop aspect ratios for well over 10 years. A lot of laptops use to use 16:10 before switching to 16:9. Remember laptops with 1280×800, 1440×900, 1680×1050, 1920×1200 resolutions....all 16x10 and all back in the 2000s. My favorite laptop was my 2007 HP 17 inch with 1680x1050 display. I got so pissed when 16:9 screens started coming out and it sucks that windows laptop companies took so long to get back to where they should really be. We REALLY need to be thanking Apple for being the one company not falling into the 16:9 trap for as long as its windows based counterparts (excluding iMacs) :)
Thank you so much for making this video - because I feel like manufacturers that make laptops "designed for creators" seem to always forget that we are making the content, not consuming it. Vertical space is important, even for artists - canvases on eisels often have the shape of a 3:2 or even a 4:3 screen - sometimes they are more vertical than horizontal. But we still end up with products like the Acer ConceptD 7 Ezel, which is nice - but it doesn't capture the workspace very well with the 16:9 display. A big reason why many prefer the 12" ipad (which i cant use because its too small)
1:00 In the past laptops were never 16:9 and only changed to that format when widescreen movies came out. Historically we had 4:3 and 5:4. In the early-mid 2000's we had 16:10. Late 2000's the industry changed to 16:9. I hated the change because we lost so much vertical real estate. I'm really liking this move BACK to more square screens.
You are gonna laugh but I am the exact opposite. I hated using 16:10 displays back in the 2000's and loved the switch to 16:9. We have proper widescreen laptops now and I can't believe they are going back to the fake 16:10 Aspect Ratio.
@@cemsengul16 I suppose it depends on what you use them for. If you only want to watch movies then 16:9 is the best but for everything else 16:10 is better. I had a Sharp mm20 with a 10.5" 4:3 screen and replaced it when it died with a Chromebook with a 10.5" 16:10 screen and I couldn't believe how much smaller the usable screen was. When I went to a 16:9 screen I had to go up to 12:5" to get the same usable space. I'm looking forward to going back to usable laptop screens and I will put up with bars at the top/bottom on the rare occasion that I watch a movie.
Personally, I wish the industry stopped talking about aspect ratios and started talking instead about dimensions. It's especially ridiculous when discussing smartphone aspect ratios. If we'd instead simply say the screen is x by y units, we'd know the screen size *and* the aspect ratio. Also, picky point, but most laptops did not used to be 16:9 to replicate the same aspect ratio as your tv. They used to be 5:4 to replicate the same aspect ratio of televisions when 5:4 was the standard for movies. 16:10 made its appearance after that and was the most common widescreen aspect ratio until 16:9 supplanted it in 2008.
black bar you said? how about plastic black bar on the most 16:9 laptops? i think screen is always better than the plastic. i also disagree a bit about reasons and purposes. 3:2=the best for the small screens. one simple reason. small and wide is not enough height for anything including browsing. 16: 10=ANY sort of multitasking. if the default ratio of your windows and apps is 16:9 then you have this extra space for the taskbar and you mouse for clicking onto something outside your main window. this includes gaming in windowed mode. 16:9=big screen, no multitasking, fullscreen mode for the app.
Amazing stuff Matt. Also could you please also do a video on XPS 13 specific external display and the difference in aspect ratios that leads to issues while transitioning from laptop screen to monitor.
Honestly my biggest problem with 16:9 now is the bezel-less trend removing the top and bottom chin, which has made the keyboard and trackpad area vertically cramped.
Thanks for the info. This helps a lot. I'm an educator by day and a gamer by night or the weekends. Documentation and paperwork is basically what I have to deal with as a teacher so a tall screen definitely help. My concern is that the form factor may affect gameplay so maybe a bigger 17” standard ratio screen might help. But with this, I can see that it wouldn't affect it 100%. Best of both world is what I'm aiming for. The only laptop with both a tall aspect and can game is Legion series. So Legion 5 Pro here I come. Hope to see you review that sometimes soon.
For developers that like to view the output next to the text editor (split screen), a 16:10 sounds like it'll be the best choice. 3:2 limits the horizontal space when in splitscreen
I've considered a 3:2 or 4:3 monitor, but I've never considered split screen space. Perhaps the Golden Ratio explains why 16:10 distributes split windows so well.
im so happy with my Lenovo legion 5 pro , it has a gorgeous 16.10 qhd ,i do everything on it Productivty, Coding, Gaming... i never noticed a problem, i'll never go back to normal displays
Are you the representative for "most people? Sure, price is a huge factor but a lot of people care about the type of display they use. Good thing budget to premium laptops all have options now.
I think bang for the buck comes in tangible and intangible aspects (no pun intended). Sometimes paying that extra $100 to $200 more for an elevated experience (or to be much more productive) can be the bang that your buck gets you. So its all relative. For many people, their bang for buck comes from fully utilising the laptop so that it is not a white elephant, ie., sometimes you pay more for a product, but it is so fully utilised that you will always be glad that you paid a little extra for it. But yeah buy within your means
The optimal form factor doesn't exist. An ultraportable would work best with a 4:3 screen, a desktop replacement could go as wide as 21:9 allowing the use of two programs side by side and still have plenty of space left for a decent keyboard and touchpad.
I have always hated 16:10 because it is not the proper cinematic widescreen aspect ratio. I don't understand how it became popular again and new laptops are starting to use them again.
I think this review has it backwards. 16:9 is not only the best for watching movies but it is also the best for most productivity. 90% of the time students/office workers are working in split screen. Just walk around any office building, cafe or library and you will see this. I tried the 3:2 macbook air and the 3:2 screen is very narrow and really restricts split screen work yet most people are doing split screen work. 16:10 is probably fine but I wouldn't go any narrower. I bet companies will change course and go back to the wider screens in the coming years.
So a 16 inch 16:10 screen can look bigger than a 17" 16:9? The Legion 5 pro really got my attention with the nice 16:10 screen but I want 17"...i primary do gaming. Please help me. I can't decide...
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Hope this helps those out there who are looking for a new laptop and unsure about the display! Also, I released my video reviewing the RX 6700 XT which you can find here - th-cam.com/video/_7xZ_kbCTKk/w-d-xo.html
Good to know, but since it takes the big bucks for that ratio it does nothing to help those of us in a lower budget range on machines. $1800 is a lot of money. Thats $1900+ with state tax, add in a warranty package, software licenses etc. and you're talking a $2500 to $2750 shell out for the average consumer to get a system up and running.
can you make a review of a laptop and its specs that is good for 3d modeling and rendering?
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128GB SSD M.2 2242 PCIe NVMe 3.0×4 + 1TB HDD 5400rpm 2.5
″Screen 15.6″ FHD (1920×1080) IPS 300nits Anti-glare, 144Hz, 100% sRGB, Dolby Vision
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Lenovo IdeaPad gaming 3
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 4GB GDDR6
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What do you think about 1440p vs 1080p laptop screen display
Really like that you are more focused towards consumers instead of mindlessly reviewing products.
thanks ! Im trying to add some variety. Testing new content. I'm glad you guys are liking it so far
@@MatthewMoniz Thank You very much Sir.
It's cause we hit the like button. Whenever he makes these more informational videos, he gets a lot of positive feedback, and I'm glad cause we get more videos like these
@@MatthewMoniz I've found myself more likely to watch your videos with content like this. I think this is why I gravitate to Linus, MrWhosTheBoss and TechAltar. Keep it up Matthew.
I like the educational videos that a couple of the reviewers are doing.
Thanks!
As a web developer I prefer 16:10 over 3:2. While 3:2 is really good for text editors (coding) it is not wide enough for most web dev tools.
Thank you, this comment helped me alot
These type of videos are really helpful!
Thanks Matthew ! ✌🏻🙌🏻
Glad you like them!
Agree with you! I can't wait for more laptops to have 16 : 10 displays
Me too 16:10 is the nice sweet spot
@@MatthewMoniz wouldn’t 16:10 be not ideal for making TH-cam videos?
I am pissed about it! I always hated 16:10 displays back in the 2000's and said good riddance once laptops switched to 16:9. I can't believe it is making a comeback now.
@@cemsengul16 laptops switched to 16 : 9 because people were doing productivity work primarily from desktop and laptops were used mostly for videos
But since laptops have gained Major performance increases and since Covid-19 people have been working on their laptops and the manufacturers are switching to accommodate.
my tablet is also 16:10 and i really liked the ratio, just seems more nice to me.
To determine aspect ratio
The resolution of the laptop will determine the aspect ratio.
Just take the resolution and divide them and use the handy guide below:
Laptop resolution 1920 x 1080 just take 1920 divide by 1080 = 1.77 From table below 1.77 is 16:9
Laptop resolution 3840x2160 just take 3840 divide by 2160 = 1.77. ==> 16:9
LG Gram 16" and 17" is 2560x1600. Just take 2560 divide 1600 = 1.6 ==> 16:10
LG Gram 14" (2021) is 1920x1200. Just take 1920 divide by 1200 = 1.6 ==> 16:10
Surface Book 3 15" is 3240 x 2160. Just take 3240 divide 2160 = 1.5 ==> 3:2
FYI Macs are 16:10, and iPads are 4:3.
Hope it helps.
Aspect Ratio Guide
4:3 = 1.33 : 1
3:2 = 1.5 : 1
16:10 = 1.6 : 1
16:9 = 1.77 : 1
21:9 = 2.35 : 1
This helped me more than the "review"
thanks man
16:10 is close to the Golden Ratio (1.61), personally, it feels more natural to me. 3:2 is the same aspect ratio of 35mm film. I think these numbers are chosen very thoughtfully by manufacturers.
Damn I recently bought a 16:9 aspect laptop, and I don't watch movies and play games on it rather do college work and coding a few times. What a bummer! Wish there was a scheme outta nowhere that I could exchange this system to a larger and at least 16:10 aspect ratio.
Informative vid for new buyers (Y)
I think I would prefer 16:10, however I snap windows left-right all the time. That is where 16:9 really comes in handy. I wonder if there is a big difference between the feel of 8:9 versus 4:5 in that regard.
Never thought that the Aspect Ratio would make such a difference. Thanks for the info bro. Keep enlightening us.
Happy to help!
Well I'm happy to know that the laptop I'm planning to buy (lenovo legion 5 pro) has the recommended aspect ratio of 16/10. Plus it's 1440p @ 165Hz and has a peek brightness of 500 nits
pricing? of this laptop
Hi, im considering buying that laptop also. Have you made the purchase yet? Are you happy with it or?
@@Hello303656 Hey there, unfortunately I haven't bought this laptop, because as a student that doesn't do a lot of gaming, I decided that I didn't really need that much power. But from all the reviews I've watched it looks like an amazing laptop
I will never switch from 3:2. It's better for nearly everything, and for the few amount of movies/videos I watch on my laptop it's still really good. I don't game on my laptop much either but when I do it's usually older games or emulators, where the taller screen is actually BETTER because it's closer to 4:3.
Good video for beginners. But you gotta be careful with these comparisons. It's not only about aspect ratio. Resolution/Pixel density matters a lot to what you can show on the display. I believe the Surface Book has a higher resolution thus it can show almost double the rows in excel. It's not only because of the 3:2 display.
Since this video aims towards people who are not very familiar with this stuff, it's important to show them the hole story. I.e. I am pretty sure that a notebook with 16:9 but QHD screen can display more stuff than a 16:10 FHD - both horizontally and vertically. So the showed examples can be a little misleading especially for beginners.
But still - great video as always. Very thoughtful and different than the usual ones!
Depends on what you are using it for. As I do work primarily, 14 inch 16:10 looks almost as big as a 15 inch 16:9 because of the additional vertical space. I feel that the LG Gram 16 inch is the perfect compromise. I am using my Surface Book 2 which is 3:2 and I love it. I will never ever go back to buying 16:9 anymore.
FYI, the iPads are 4:3 and the Macs are all 16:10. One way to compare is like this:
4:3 = 1.33 : 1
3:2 = 1.5 : 1
16:10 = 1.6 : 1
16:9 = 1.77 : 1
21:9 = 2.35 : 1
So as you can see, the larger the number the wider the screen. The wider the screen the less vertical space you will have....even word, excel and powerpoint with the Ribbon and Tabs take up a fair amount of vertical real estate and looks especially bad on 16:9 or wider display because it gives you very little document space to work with. And in the end you have to zoom out which makes everything look small.
Everything except watching videos and movies, you should always go for a taller vertical space. FYI I am only referring to laptops only.
As 4K (3840x2160) is still 16:9 aspect, i.e., 1.77:1. Only go for that for work if you are going to buy a large 27 to 32 inch monitors. It is ideal for work because even if it is split screen, the documents on both sides will look large enough and wide enough.
Hello Joseph, you hit the nail on the head. You really focused on the productivity issue. My work requires working on lengthy documents on Ms Word and tabs/ribbon consumes most viewing space. Most companies like mine gave 14inch laptop, after taking hell of requests /approvals they are okay to provide 15.6 inch laptop instead of 16inch laptop for which I pitched. I am very sad and frustrated, could you share your views, as what I saw in market 16 inch has a better viewing angle.
@@Shivs.adv. I understand how you may feel. I am assuming that "viewing angle" you meant ability to view more of your working space. So you will find a big difference from 15.6" to 16" if the aspect ratios are different. If the aspect ratios remain the same, there won't be a significant difference in 15.6" or 16".
If you are stuck with 16:9 aspect or wider, your only recourse is either
1. Minimise the ribbon to increase vertical working space (in which case it gets annoying when you need to use functions on the ribbon often) or
2. Or just use it to watch movies period (just kidding. If you have to work on it you just have to)
The latest Macbooks (Air and Pro) have a notch. Although many have been complaining about it, it actually has benefits. With the notch, Apple actually made the laptop screen taller. The menubar now resides in a brand new vertical area of the screen where the notch is without affecting the working space. This actually increases the vertical workspace slightly for the new Macs. And brings the aspect ratio to somewhere around 1.54:1 where previously it was 1.60:1.
Of course there are other factors to consider like resolution, text comfort size etc. In 2022, I feel that laptops should not be lower than 2K and same goes for monitor size. In fact, in 2022/23, if you are buying a monitor, I feel that if your eyesight is not what it once was and you should go for nothing less than 27" (32" if you don't find it too big. I recently bought a 4K 32" and for those sizes, nothing less than 4K). If you buy 24 inches, nothing less than 2K. Forget 1080p in 2023 even though the prices look super attractive. For work, the sharper texts on higher resolutions is worth the slightly higher prices. 4K monitors have become so much more affordable in 2022/23. The price differences can be as low as $150 during sales. And it is so much worth it spend that little extra. If price is an issue than of course go get the 1080p (even thought I feel you still should not). The monitor is something you are going to be staring at whole day. You will be glad you spent that bit more.
@@JCTY299 Really sorry for this late message, thanks a lot for giving this broad understanding 🙏Unfortunately, i have been all struggling and went on war with top management. After some hope, they might be okay to issue a laptop of 15.6inch having 16.10 aspect ratio, the proposed laptop model is "Dell Precision 5570 Mobile Workstation". I see on google that it has 16.10 aspect ratio. My organization says there's high cost factor in procuring 16inch laptop, and they can consider Dell Precision 5570 Mobile Workstation having 16:10 aspect ratio.
I am perplexed, will this cater to my 16inch laptop requirement (as i feel conformable in higher screen Vertical/Length). Likewise, will there be a difference b/w 16:10 aspect ratio in a 16-inch form factor vs 16:10 aspect ratio in a 15-inch form factor?
I'm a huge fan of 3:2 but I get what you're saying here! I prefer the depth for web content and because I feel 16:9 is too wide, despite matching the majority of video content.
One thing that often gets overlooked as that the aspect ratio can have an impact on the keyboard layout you'll get. With 16:9, you usually get a Num pad because the deck is wider. With 16:10, for the same size screen otherwise, you often loose the Num pad because the deck becomes just not wide enough, especially on systems with less than 17" displays, of which most of us use. With 3:2, you most often lose the Num Pad altogether. As a software engineer, the Num pad isn't an option, it is a necessity. There's always a trade-off for everything.
Why do you need the NumPad as a dev? I never use it
I rarely y use numpad
All of my screens, as well as all my laptops have been 16:9, but I always feel that laptops feel very cramped when compared to desktop monitors with the same ratio.
I have an easy time believing that a 16:10 ratio on laptops feels a lot better.
Timing of this video couldn't be more precise. Just yesterday I searched '16:10 vs 16:9 aspect ratio' Thanks for making this video so now that I can buy the upcoming Lenovo Legion 5 pro without having doubts about its aspect ratio.
I've rewarded the idiots who dictated the 16:9 displays on ALL laptops for over a decade by not buying one for that entire time. Last time I looked, most laptops are used by business and/or home productivity users who are mostly looking at portrait documents. What I really want is for 4:3 to come back, but I guess that's asking too much in an environment clearly controlled by lunatics.
King 👑 what a video!! You explained perfectly what nothing says in reviews! 👏👏👏
Thanks for the video! If you have the time, could you maybe do a similar video discussing the pros/cons of 4k vs QHD vs FHD, number of hertz, etc.? Seems like 2021 is absolutely wild with the variations this year and it's tough to figure out the sweet spot of finding the right display.
I fully support such content which helps the end user in proper decision making
Thanks man
3:2 all the way!! The best middle-ground between 16:9 and 4:3 IMHO.
My preference will greatly depend on screen size too. For ultrabooks, give me the squarest screen possible. It's easy enough to watch movies on a small screen but the compromise that 16:9 presents for productivity and readability at 13.3" is way too severe in my experience in fact, the closer to a square the more very real sq inches you get at a given diagonal measurement. At 15.6"+ I don't mind 16:9 and in many cases prefer it.
What I love in this chanel is this, this videos that differs your channel from the others. I really like your reviews, but I think this videos when you expose your opinion about different matters really complements your channel. Excellent work!
Thank you Francisco! That means a lot.
I like this videos your currently making. It really helps for those who are new in buying laptops (like me). This videos are definitely unique and I hope you continue making vidoes like this.
As always. Thank you Mat! Support here from the Philippines 🇵🇭
These videos are much more entertaining (while educating) than reviews.
1:00 16/9 have not "always" be the standard aspect ratio. I used to have a 4/3 1600x1200 15" Thinkpad T41 back in the day, then all my laptop where 16/10 until my current P50... but I totally agree it's about time we can choose also the aspect ratio of a laptop according to its usage (and hopefully ext. monitor, high res. 16x10 are very expensive compared to standard 16x9 one).
Admitted an odd man out, I prefer 16:9 for snapping 2 small utility windows (files, calculator, notepad, etc.) with 1 main document window that's how I work. 16:10 and 3:2 aren't wide enough for my work setup. 16:9 is even better on 15" or larger laptops with numpad since I can keep the utility windows on the numpad side and main work window on the trackpad side 👍
I went to 3:2 screen a couple of years ago. I'm never going back. Writing, webpage scrolling, and productivity in general is way more comfortable with that aspect ratio.
3:2 is great!
I agree: 16:10 is the way to go. What Matthew couldn’t mention here is that 16:10 is the aspect ratio of every Mac notebook, so if you’re thinking of getting a Mac, that’s what you can expect.
Hi, but if buy a macbook will it show black bars when i mostly use y tube videos?
Awesomene video Matthew! Really appreciated the knowledge shared on the topic! Felt it was well rounded and suitable 👍
Glad you liked it!
Just change taskbar placement to left to convert your 16:9 laptop to 5:3
As always, informative, easy to follow video with good point made. Thank you!
I think watching a movie with black bars is worse than just pressing a button to scroll down.
Thanks for shedding light on this topic and actually showing the differences.
Helps a ton!
My pleasure!
I just ordered the LG Gram 2021 model! I loved the 2020 model which turned out to be very reliable and stable, and I'm really looking forward to the newer one.
Awesome! Let me know how you like it and thanks for stopping by!
@@MatthewMoniz No worries, Matthew. Thanks for replying and the great content you've been sharing with us.
You look things in detailed way. Nice Job.
This is the content i've been looking for. Thanks
You're welcome!
Well stated Mathew completely agree with you today
Good video. It's all down to personal preference & use case. I do a bit of everything on my laptop (HP Spectre 2 in 1), a decent amount of PC & emulated gaming, MS Word/OneNote/PowerPoint/Outlook productivity work, presentations, some coding, & a fair amount of TV & film, so 16:9 is ideal for me. Some additional vertical space would be nice, but I really hate black bars wasting display real estate.
I shared this before even watching it, I wasn't disappointed,
keep up legit content.
Thanks man! You rock!
The MacBook Air M1 has a 16:10 display.
Gotta love that machine 👌!
I have a very different view than you on this. Laptops have not always been 16:9. The modern 16:9 TV ruined laptop aspect ratios for well over 10 years. A lot of laptops use to use 16:10 before switching to 16:9. Remember laptops with 1280×800, 1440×900, 1680×1050, 1920×1200 resolutions....all 16x10 and all back in the 2000s. My favorite laptop was my 2007 HP 17 inch with 1680x1050 display. I got so pissed when 16:9 screens started coming out and it sucks that windows laptop companies took so long to get back to where they should really be. We REALLY need to be thanking Apple for being the one company not falling into the 16:9 trap for as long as its windows based counterparts (excluding iMacs) :)
Am I the only one who prefers 16:9 over 16:10
Thanks for explanations! Thinking about 16:10 ratio in new Lenovo. So, ratio was visually and demonstratively) I choose it)
Thank you so much for making this video - because I feel like manufacturers that make laptops "designed for creators" seem to always forget that we are making the content, not consuming it. Vertical space is important, even for artists - canvases on eisels often have the shape of a 3:2 or even a 4:3 screen - sometimes they are more vertical than horizontal. But we still end up with products like the Acer ConceptD 7 Ezel, which is nice - but it doesn't capture the workspace very well with the 16:9 display. A big reason why many prefer the 12" ipad (which i cant use because its too small)
the comment is shorter than it seems i promise
1:00 In the past laptops were never 16:9 and only changed to that format when widescreen movies came out. Historically we had 4:3 and 5:4. In the early-mid 2000's we had 16:10. Late 2000's the industry changed to 16:9. I hated the change because we lost so much vertical real estate. I'm really liking this move BACK to more square screens.
You are gonna laugh but I am the exact opposite. I hated using 16:10 displays back in the 2000's and loved the switch to 16:9. We have proper widescreen laptops now and I can't believe they are going back to the fake 16:10 Aspect Ratio.
@@cemsengul16 I suppose it depends on what you use them for. If you only want to watch movies then 16:9 is the best but for everything else 16:10 is better. I had a Sharp mm20 with a 10.5" 4:3 screen and replaced it when it died with a Chromebook with a 10.5" 16:10 screen and I couldn't believe how much smaller the usable screen was. When I went to a 16:9 screen I had to go up to 12:5" to get the same usable space.
I'm looking forward to going back to usable laptop screens and I will put up with bars at the top/bottom on the rare occasion that I watch a movie.
Personally, I wish the industry stopped talking about aspect ratios and started talking instead about dimensions. It's especially ridiculous when discussing smartphone aspect ratios. If we'd instead simply say the screen is x by y units, we'd know the screen size *and* the aspect ratio. Also, picky point, but most laptops did not used to be 16:9 to replicate the same aspect ratio as your tv. They used to be 5:4 to replicate the same aspect ratio of televisions when 5:4 was the standard for movies. 16:10 made its appearance after that and was the most common widescreen aspect ratio until 16:9 supplanted it in 2008.
I'd like to see similar review with FHD/QHD/4k in both 15" and 17" laptops. And ofcourse with so much data that u can easily add in same video 😁
Love ypur content. It's really helpful and full of knowledge. Thanks for the content
My pleasure!
Great content as always Sir
Much appreciated
Excellent review Matthew! Very informative 👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
black bar you said? how about plastic black bar on the most 16:9 laptops? i think screen is always better than the plastic.
i also disagree a bit about reasons and purposes.
3:2=the best for the small screens. one simple reason. small and wide is not enough height for anything including browsing.
16: 10=ANY sort of multitasking. if the default ratio of your windows and apps is 16:9 then you have this extra space for the taskbar and you mouse for clicking onto something outside your main window. this includes gaming in windowed mode.
16:9=big screen, no multitasking, fullscreen mode for the app.
These type of videos should be hitting the algorithm surge .
I wish!
@@MatthewMoniz keep up the work man, I especially loved the laptop guide video u did a while ago
Amazing stuff Matt. Also could you please also do a video on XPS 13 specific external display and the difference in aspect ratios that leads to issues while transitioning from laptop screen to monitor.
thanks need these types of reviews in the feature!
which is more towards actual world use than just numbers!
Honestly my biggest problem with 16:9 now is the bezel-less trend removing the top and bottom chin, which has made the keyboard and trackpad area vertically cramped.
Thanks for the info. This helps a lot.
I'm an educator by day and a gamer by night or the weekends.
Documentation and paperwork is basically what I have to deal with as a teacher so a tall screen definitely help. My concern is that the form factor may affect gameplay so maybe a bigger 17” standard ratio screen might help. But with this, I can see that it wouldn't affect it 100%. Best of both world is what I'm aiming for. The only laptop with both a tall aspect and can game is Legion series. So Legion 5 Pro here I come. Hope to see you review that sometimes soon.
Thanks Joel! hoping the Legion comes in soon. Stay tuned!
Thanks a lot. Great explanation. Many people can explain it, but not like you (y)
For developers that like to view the output next to the text editor (split screen), a 16:10 sounds like it'll be the best choice. 3:2 limits the horizontal space when in splitscreen
I've considered a 3:2 or 4:3 monitor, but I've never considered split screen space. Perhaps the Golden Ratio explains why 16:10 distributes split windows so well.
Now the decision to buy a laptop is getting harder, I code and play on my device but don't know which could be the better configuration to buy
This was a very useful video since I wanted to know wich ratio was better for my office work so now I can go for a 3:2 ratio
Goodbye and good riddance to the 16: 9 aspect ratio.
Appreciate the video brother
you are doing an amazing job, love your videos..
im so happy with my Lenovo legion 5 pro , it has a gorgeous 16.10 qhd ,i do everything on it Productivty, Coding, Gaming... i never noticed a problem, i'll never go back to normal displays
I really like this type of videos....i think this will benefit a lot of consumers
Thanks! MOre to come
at 2:51 there is an additional banner on the lenovo laptop, making it show less rows than the others :) - Just wanted to highlight this 👍
Thanks! Very useful
You're welcome!
I just bought my first laptop and 16X10 was a must even though productivity was not important to me. It just felt right on a laptop?
Wow the video being edited at 3:00 is in my home town, Enfield, London... thats so random to see!
Most people here don’t
care about “aspect ratio” we care about how cheap and how good a laptop is.
exactly, price to performance ratio, the higher it goes the better the product is.
@@grosuciprian yes sir or simply put “THE BANG FOR THE BUCK”
i like 16:9 or 21:9
Are you the representative for "most people? Sure, price is a huge factor but a lot of people care about the type of display they use. Good thing budget to premium laptops all have options now.
I think bang for the buck comes in tangible and intangible aspects (no pun intended). Sometimes paying that extra $100 to $200 more for an elevated experience (or to be much more productive) can be the bang that your buck gets you. So its all relative. For many people, their bang for buck comes from fully utilising the laptop so that it is not a white elephant, ie., sometimes you pay more for a product, but it is so fully utilised that you will always be glad that you paid a little extra for it. But yeah buy within your means
Thanks bud! Great video!
Thanks man!
"Laptops have always been 16:9" - I feel old...🤣
I have used all three. 16:9 is crap. Except watching some video it is the by far the worst experience. As you said 16:10 sweet spot.
At 2:57 That's the A10 dual carriageway in Enfield, London. I recognise the Cineworld cinema.
Love your videos mahn!!
Thanks Arjun!
Why is watching movies with black bars a bad thing? I prefer it that way , i think it's more immersive
I actually like 16:9 laptops more.
Great video you clear my thoughts
Awesome, thank you!
Great video, I really like the idea of it!!!!
Awesome, thank you!
The optimal form factor doesn't exist. An ultraportable would work best with a 4:3 screen, a desktop replacement could go as wide as 21:9 allowing the use of two programs side by side and still have plenty of space left for a decent keyboard and touchpad.
I have always hated 16:10 because it is not the proper cinematic widescreen aspect ratio. I don't understand how it became popular again and new laptops are starting to use them again.
16:9 isn't a proper cinematic aspect ratio either, it's a widescreen TV aspect ratio.
Is there a big difference between 2560*1600 and 1920*1200 resolution? Will you see it?
16:10 rules. You have extra bars/controls which adds to productivity
just a simple question for gaming movies and everything which is better 16.9 or 16.10
good explain and good conclusive video :)
I think this review has it backwards. 16:9 is not only the best for watching movies but it is also the best for most productivity. 90% of the time students/office workers are working in split screen. Just walk around any office building, cafe or library and you will see this. I tried the 3:2 macbook air and the 3:2 screen is very narrow and really restricts split screen work yet most people are doing split screen work. 16:10 is probably fine but I wouldn't go any narrower. I bet companies will change course and go back to the wider screens in the coming years.
Can you do a recommendation for a gaming nonnmatte display? It's been years since someone talked about it. More power man!
Watched for a while.just subbed now :-)
Thanks Mike I really appreciate it = ) Welcome to the fam!
Can you help me out for choosing between these two laptops ?
1) hd screen og HP
2) Fhd screen of ASUS ??
Please reply
So a 16 inch 16:10 screen can look bigger than a 17" 16:9? The Legion 5 pro really got my attention with the nice 16:10 screen but I want 17"...i primary do gaming. Please help me. I can't decide...
Which did you get
Really helped absolutely great
Glad to hear! thanks for watching
The background looks clean gotta say, but behind the scenes😂 saw the ig story btw
Finally, a useful video about laptops.
Really niche video... thanks.
Glad you liked it!
Don't forget to consider how each aspect ratio and resolution handles snapping windows side by side!
You're trying to determine what's number two after 4x3 right?