What's the Best Gaming Laptop Display? Mini-LED vs OLED vs IPS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 พ.ค. 2024
- It's time to settle the debate over which display is the best for gaming laptops. Every year we see new options with OLED, Mini-LED, and standard IPS displays, but it's hard to know what's best until you've seen them all in person. Is mini-LED blooming always bad? Does the dimming algorithm change everything? Is OLED going to burn in? Does IPS look dull?
In this video, I've done my best to use my camera's settings to demonstrate the vibrance, contrast, and brightness that you can expect from each of these screen technologies, as well as their pros, cons, and quirks. While only the human eye can see all of these differences at once, I think this will at least highlight piece-by-piece what is unique about each display type.
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0:00 Intro
0:12 Laptops Used
1:25 Mini-LED vs OLED
3:07 Laptops Used (Continued)
4:48 Brightness and Color
5:52 Contrast and Black Levels
9:55 Color Gamut Differences
10:30 Blooming and Dimming Algorithms
11:50 Dimming Algorithm Differences
15:15 Final Thoughts - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Bro just made the perfect video! I don't think I've seen any other creator make this video comparison ❤
Thank you!!
Great video , very much needed , don't know why nobody else is making this kind of video.
Great info, my fellow Ableton user
Thanks for making this video and making things clear. May god bless you !!
Wow great video if i didn't see your subs i would have guessed you are over a million
great comparison, very helpful.
Thanks!
Hey Josh, could you review a laptop cooling pad? @@JoshCravesTech
The 2024 Asus Scar 18" just released with QHD mini-led screen with 2000 dimming zones
Hi I just found out about your super review channel. Excellent work!
I wanted to buy Zephyrus m16 but after watching your review I knew it wasn’t made for me.
Could you also make a review for ROG Strix G16? I’m really curious about that machine. Tnx.
You gotta check out the OLEDs on the new G16s and G14s, also a 1 hour review of each would be glorious. Nice video as always.
Yeah tbh that will probably happen 🤣
@@JoshCravesTechWould love to see that video as well. But you did a really great job here. I am surprised you dont have more views on this video….I can see your channel blowing up.
When they came out mouth
Please do a performance and temperature test if you end up adding liquid metal to the gpu and cpu of the zephyrus g14 with the scar 16 vbios. I can't get enough of this! Thanks!
Amazing comparison man thanks a lot :D
I wish could do the same test/ comparison with apples m1 macbook pro 14 and 16 from 2021 and also the m2 or m3 from 2023 to see if their mini-Led display have that problem or not ?
What an underrated video and creator. Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Good comparison. You should also compare MiniLED monitors vs OLED monitors
Personally bought a mini-led gaming ultrawide, as I was too afraid of oled birn in to ruin my over a grabd investment, and I couldn't be happier. Seems to be the perfect choice between oled and IPS. 😌🖤
Hate IPS because of backlight bleed.. How is blooming on your mini led laptop? Is it Asus?
@@GrooveMushroomHave gigabyte M32U have great colors and brightness but blacks look grey thats the disadvantage.
Thats a sub. High quality content.
Thank you!! 🙏
Blade 16 what a beast 😢
Well done. I would love to see these outside, where I sometimes bring my laptop.
If you go outside you really cant use an ips or oled, 1000 nits also helps
Yup, was about to purchase the Legion Pro 7i but looking to mini LED now. Love my 16" M1 Pro display. Hard to do IPS anymore.
I'm pretty sure the Legion 9 has mini LED!
Thoughts on newly announced G14 & G16?
Hey @joshcravestech , First off thank you for the wealth of information. Secondly, I really appreciate you mentioning the toggle between the multi-zone dimming on the Asus laptops but I'm curious; my primary concern with the (Rog series specifically) IPS panel laptops is the backlight bleeding and hotspots around the edges. Would disabling the multi-zone dimming essentially be an IPS like display but eliminate that edge bleeding? I'm assuming yes based on your info because it's not an edge lit panel? For me limiting that bleeding and unevenness is more important than deeper/richer blacks so that would be primary reason to switch. Would very much appreciate any info on that! Thank you again!
how did you set the hot key "f4" to switch between single and multizone?
Love the video and perfect timing with the recent 2024 laptop announcements. We need more content like this!
Watch my video on G-Helper for that!
Thanks! what a great video!
Thanks for the comment!
Great video, thank you
No problem!!
Good night, I'm very grateful to you for the work you've done, I'm very glad that I found your channel.and I can't figure out how to open the legiin 7 pro or LEGION I9 MINILED screen ...., I'LL PROBABLY STICK LIKE YOU THAT MINLED is better...I am very grateful to you for the video and for the work you have done!!very cool, even if the shimmer is recognized.but it's so cool!!well done!My respects to you! THANKS*
Thanks a lot
I wonder how easy it is for those oled panels to burn-in. I really like oled panels in general as they're on my phone and my tablet. But tbh I mostly replace my phone and tablets within 2-3 years so I've never experienced the burn-in. Reason I'm asking is because I'm interested in getting those new Zephyrus G14/G16. With laptops and computers in general, I prefer to keep them for a longer time.
Greats video !
can you do an in depth review on the best laptop strictly for music production?!
I believe the "screen door effect" you're referring to on OLED displays is what's known as PWM (pulse width modulation). Lots of people have had issues with that due to causing eye strain and headaches.
No, it’s actually from the touch screen digitizer layer of the panel. PWM can also be a headache on some OLED’s for sure though, but what I’m referring to is specifically only on touchscreen OLED’s, they have this screen door effect issue. It almost looks like there’s a semi-transparent netting over the screen but only on bright/white backgrounds. It’s not a moving flicker, but more so a static element.
Just purchased the new Blade 16 Mercury mini LED. These 2024 models do have local dimming. I haven't seen a single review of these panels yet. It'll be interesting to see the quality of these displays with local dimming both on and off.
Thanks! And yeah that’s a tough one. I’m not sure which they went with there
thank you for the review i will go for MSI raider miniled
Great choice!
Thank you for this video. You made it very clear for us
but I still don't know which one has better response time between Ips and mini-led ?
oled obviously has the best response time
The difference in response time is identical typically
@joshcravey9728 ok thank you again
I use IPS and I'm ok with it, but I think the future is for Mini-LED. We just need a couple of more years to solve all the issues with dimming and to make Mini LED the standard.
Yep, it’s getting closer to perfect every year! I’ve heard the 2024 Scar 16 for example has 2,000 dimming zones and the blooming is already almost non-existent
I like the fact that you picked Lenovo legion for the IPS example, they are known for having one of the best if not the best IPS panel out there.
This makes it a fair comparison, however if you have gone with acer nitro 5 or MSI GF this would have been hellarious
Yeah it would’ve made those look REALLY bad, I can’t stand the dull low NTSC IPS panels
I have the IPad Pro with mini led with its 1000 nits sustained and 1600 nits peek brightness it looks amazing and I hardly see any blooming I watch a lot of hdr content
I wish there were more "GOOD" IPS displays options in the budget segment. Most come with 250nits 42% NTSC display panels.
This is true, there’s a lot of TERRIBLE displays in the budget segment. It shouldn’t be like that. I get its budget but that’s nearly unacceptable these days.
@@JoshCravesTech Those displays have been there since like 2017 and now it's 2024. That's more than 6 Years
@@VihangaDananjaya1214 exactly! Sad
Can you compare MiniLED laptop (such as lenovo slim 9i pro 16) to amoled (such as samsung GB3)
I am definitely going with zephyrus g14
Which will consume more power/battery
Legion 7 ips display
or
Asus Zephyrus G16 2024 oled display
Also we can say which will consume more
Asus zephyrus g16 2024 ips
or
Asus zephyrus g16 2024 oled
As it is available in both this year. Please help to decide.
Hello, what about battery life?
Oled have improved a lot in recent years, is battery life still worse compared to ips?
Typically, yes. I’m not sure the exact science behind it to be honest but something to do with the individually lit pixels versus edge-lit uses more power, unless you’re viewing content that doesn’t light many pixels up
AMAZING
Appreciate the comment!
can you do an in depth video on the best laptops strictly for music production?
I’ll think about it, thank you for the suggestion! But honestly all of these would absolutely be amazing for music production for years to come. Music production is mostly reliant on the CPU with some VST plugins needing a bit of GPU power to operate smoothly, so Intel will always have a slight advantage in most cases. But the second you unplug, then AMD has the advantage. So it really comes down to the other aspects of a laptop that you prefer to have such as portability, battery life, display, keyboard/trackpad, etc.
I think Oled will be the best in a dimmed condition the perfect black and no blooming. In the other hand, Mini-LED will be the best for a brighter condition, with that high brightness and still has perfect black, plus we won't able to see the blooming that much on that condition
Hello Josh, I know your past experience with legion laptops wasn't the best, and it's been a while since this generation was launched, but do you think you're gonna make any videos about legion laptops in future?
Yes I have a video coming on the Legion Pro 7i 2023, it’s pretty good! Still not my favorite but I don’t hate it. I actually loved the 2021 Legion 7 but never got around to making a video for it
@@JoshCravesTech Okay, will definitely be looking forward to that (I'm a legion fan boy🥴) hope it's looonggg😂
@@JoshCravesTech You still cooking that video? 😉
Hi Josh, so I have the Asus G14 4090 with the mini LED display and I noticed when I watch certain shows on Netflix the content looks fuzzy and pixilated when the HDR is turned on but if I toggle off HDR the content looks nice and crisp is there anything on the settings I need to adjust to make things look better?
Are you using the application or the website? Make sure it says “Dolby vision” when you start the show or else you’ll be watching SDR content in windows “Auto HDR” mode which can be a hit or miss.
@@Alm8hoorOW I am just going to the website I started watching this show called Neon Genesis Evangelion and the scenes that are dark look washed out and it doesn't look good at all but when I turn off HDR on the display settings the same show looks good again.
@@edwincuret2289 , that show isn’t even in HDR format.
Only shows with the “Dolby Vision” logo can be viewed in native HDR on your laptop. You also have to make sure you see the logo appear when you start viewing the media or else you’ll be streaming SDR instead. If it doesn’t, make sure your Netflix subscription plan includes HDR. I would also use the application on windows store as I personally had issues running HDR on Netflix using a browser.
Guys what do you recommend me to buy with max. 2400€?
Should have a good and fast 2k(+) min 17 inch display / min. 4070 / silent as possible cooling system /
Please tell me if there is any information about PWM modulation on miniled?I have a very big problem with this, I can't even tolerate Pwm ((modulation...Do you know how the mini led works with this?I can't find anywhere for PWM information .Maybe tell me please?Thanks again for your channel!Very cool!
Yes, most miniLED and OLED laptops use PWM for controlling brightness. The PWM frequency on the mini-LED laptops shown are MUCH higher than the range of being noticeable, so even people who are sensitive to it would likely not notice. However you have to be careful with some OLED laptops. A lot of people love the Legion Slim 14” OLED for example, but it has a low PWM frequency of only 240Hz which will definitely be noticeable and may hurt your eyes.
Thank you for the answer..that is, on miniled?how is there no pwm on ips approximately like on ips 1_2%??? Or how many% are onoled??? A flicker?Shim? I can't really look at it like on an amoled phone screen... Please tell me on the mini led how is the ips very small%?pwm1_2%?or is it like on amoled or oled? Pwm is actually very harmful...he not only spoils his eyes, but also his head and brains...I am very sensitive to the flicker of Pwm Modulation...therefore, nemon has nowhere to find.and PWM information on the mini led ?Not enough? Or %!!!?is it more than 1-2%???thank you if I still misunderstood your answer a little.Thank you
I think mini-LED plus HDR1000 in 2K view is the best for gaming, but in near future OLED monitor options will soon become more logical.
I’m more in line with this opinion as well!
Best miniLED on laptop imo is Macbook pro but with vivid app installed which allows it to hit 1000nits full screen, Apple just does a great job with tuning of the dimming algorithms...
Yeah I have a MBP 14 2023 and I can confirm that it’s a great panel. It basically an OLED on steroids
Aside from the bad response times yes! It’s not meant for gaming whatsoever, but for anything else it’s awesome!
@@JoshCravesTech Yeah the 120hz doesn't feel like 120hz at times because of the response times. But other than that it is an amazing laptop. Better than my Omen 4080 I had before the MBP 2023
Who asked?
@@JoshCravesTech I mean, I think gaming on laptop can never be as good as pc. So in my opinion, there is no need to go for the lowest response time of a screen.
They managed to add VRR, this was something holding manufacturers back from using OLED for gaming laptops. And without a touchscreen you don't have the weird shimmer you mentioned.
Yeah, so 2024 OLED’s might actually be decent
I just got the Blade 16 4090 last Friday, was thinking about returning and getting oled, if it was released at a higher resolution: but NO. Some people can't tell the difference between 4k and 2k on a 16-inch panel, but I surely can.
your 4090 can tell the difference too
For sure. I have the legion 9i it’s not 4k but 3200x2000. I can see the differences very easy from 1600p. I like running dlss on quality and it looks great. I like it better then native 1600p.
Did your Blade 16 come with an AUO or BOE panel? Had to return the Blade 16 with BOE MiniLED as it looked horrible on dark backgrounds. It had lots of blooming and random shadows across the screen. However, those that use light mode and white backgrounds only won't experience those issues. Gonna be getting an OLED model instead.
@@TechGuyBI thought they are all BOE now. Blade 16 with that 240hz oled panel is tempting me.
please do a review of the 2024 g16
Oh you already know. Just waiting for it to be available
@@JoshCravesTech oh I thought it already was available my bad
I wish you would have had the 2024 razer blade 16 in here with the samsung oled
Yeah this was before that released, but it’s going to look basically identical to the Zenbook oled shown here. Same max nits and everything, just no screen door effect since it isn’t touchscreen.
@joshcravey9728 yea that's what I was guessing. I'm leaning towards qled/mini led for the brightness, I'm spoiled by oled's though I wish they could make super amoled panels this size itd be crazy to have a 1200 or 1400 nit oled pannel in a laptop. I'm looking at the legion 9i
lmao that's not a potato, that's a kiwi!
thanks for the video. I've been thinking of getting a Zephyrus G16 or M16 for a couple years now.
Lol, my knowledge on fruit is obviously not up to par 🤣
Went with the Legion Pro 7i mainly for cost. Received the 4090, 32gb Ram, and 2TB SSD for $2,450+tax.
Yeah I see it go on sale for good prices every now and then, so it gives a lot of performance for the price!
Do you think the difference between 1000 and 500 domming zones is very noticeable?
Tbh not as much as I thought it would be. I’ve had 2 laptops with 500 and a few with 1,000+ and if you put both in front of me without telling me which was which then I probably wouldn’t know 🤣
Loving your video! Wanna collabs?
DAMN!..I just realized I'm researching miniLED for nothing cause it's only on the 4090 version of the G14 2023, which is 3200$. Now, there's the Lenovo YOGA Pro 9i with miniLED +4070+64RAM but it has an Intel chip and a battery life of like 1.5 hours. So, there aren't enough options out there for a combo of 4070+miniLED+AMD CPU+32-64GB RAM rigs with good battery life... And 2024 seem to force us all to buy OLEDs with all soldered RAM. What can we do, then?
Wait for a price drop on the 4090 model. In UK the 2022 Razer Blade 14 3080ti went from £3500 at launch to £1500 today.
@@MyThingsRedux But there's no availability, man. Also I don't need that dot matrix thing. Adds bulk. You can't find a non-dot matrix copy. I begin to consider the Lenovo Legion, and still looking for a laptop with a 64GB RAM option. Very scarce to find...
@@eladbari I think the G14 with the 4090 doesn't have the dot-matrix. The mini-led takes up the space instead.
modern Ips laptop panels such as the 240fps gsync models are very good with colors, and response time but the black levels without local dimming are atrocious, and the same is factual for lcd led panels without local dimming as it’s very difficult to enjoy darker games on those panels….. I think mini led with local dimming is the best of the best cause you get inky oled type blacks with higher brightness and no risk of burn in…..
i love ips colours but blacks are grey,have m32u great ips monitor.of course qd oled is the best except brightness.
@@ozgurkuzu2202 the blacks are actually very inky unless it’s a dark scene in the game then yes the blacks are not good with grey glowing and loss of details with ips panels but aside from that the panel is quite awesome
@@HaloinfiniteEternal Exactly 👍
Man, just a few years ago people were all comparing IPS to VA and TN. Now IPS is no longer the most desired panel for image quality.
So true
I recommend buy a IPs only because it cost less and then buy a monitor with oled 4K it will be less than the oled laptop
The 2024 Blade 16's OLED version has GSync
Yeah I think I mentioned it in the video! Or at least the 2024 Zephyrus G16, which has the exact same panel
@@JoshCravesTech it's very possible that you did and I missed it, my bad. I only caught the part where you mentioned OLEDs generally not having the feature
@@rkymtnchi503 yeah all good! But yes I’m VERY happy to see Gsync in a few of these 2024 panels. Finally!
Mini Led
M3 Macbook vs Razer Blade 16 - who is better?
The MacBook’s display is better but it has slow response times so it’s not good for gaming or anything needing quick responsiveness
@@JoshCravesTech So is Razer, too
so can we expect Razer blade 16 review 👀?
Perhaps 👀
I have never looked at OLED screen, so I go for IPS.
Mini led all day
People claim manufacturers are now confident about OLEDs to be releasing them on all new laptops in 2024.
But, maybe all they care about is for them to work for only 2-3 years because then they burn-in + warranty is over + and it's "already time to upgrade to a new rig" by their terms....?
Yep, I’ve had this thought as well. It’s hard to 100% trust it!
@@JoshCravesTech Man, I'm using After Effects..with a constant UI menu being idle in screen for hours each day. These brands are nuts! Problem is- it's just hard to find a fully fine system now.
It's either high specs, yet crappy battery life (YOGA Pro 9i)....Or, it's lower capped specs with new solid chassis (2024 G14 limited to 32GB+4070...+OLED risk)...
It's super tough to make a choice, man...
One big thing ignored in this video is battery consumption with each of these display technology. I am sure IPS would win hands down if that criterea goes into play.
Ehhh.. while mini-LED does use a bit more battery, the difference can be small, especially if you’re in dark mode. And same with OLED. The 2024 G14 and G16 are proving to be extremely efficient and giving equal, if not better battery life than their previous models
Wrong! There's some OLED model with VRR & G-sync/Freesync.
Wow do you own all these laptops?
Yes, just bought for reviewing and to help the community really! I return or resell after I'm done testing because that money adds up QUICK
Hi Old man, I just found out...I asked a man to make a camera on the screen of the legion carbon i9 miniled pwm!4090 32 ...there are lines on the left, but I don't know exactly what percentage a person measured with a camera instead of a sensor, but the poles are coming....(((like you said, there's a fucking shim...I will not take over this shit is very harmless, I will buy the sensor now just far away...and it is necessary to check the hardware so that the percentage is... shim fucking...and there is no one else to do it...this is a trick....((pwm is more than 3_5% very bad thank you .Go on, it's VERY COOL.
ips is noticeably crapy
OLED, OLED, OLED, get rid of the rest, it's all junk in comparison.
Yeah but risky because its expensive.
I'm 3 minutes in and you are all over the fucking place.... so lost
Huh? I’m lost by how you could be lost. What do you not understand?
IPS is trash
can you do an in depth review on the best laptop strictly for music production?!
Hey I would go for the Asus Zephryus duo 16’ for music production with the 2 screens.