REAL CLEAR SLA parts: Clearcoating prototype 3D printed bottles
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- This video is about clear coating SLA WaterShed clear prototype bottles. How do you take a watershed SLA part and make it clear. I show you how to take a translucent SLA prototype bottle and make it clear so you can read through it.
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lol why so mad about thumbs down? ...i think it actually doesn't matter in the algorithm, it counts as an interaction with the video
the anger about thumbs down made me thumbs down.. else the video was fine
Thanks
My point exactly, its in the humain nature to get these reaction out of others, but at the same time, you seem to have taken that criticism perfectly.
I actually think you are right, though the algorithm is a tough thing to grasp, and I think it changes over time. Either way my plan to get feedback has not materialized in anyway shape or form, go figure...., but, I seem to have punk'd the system and the video is quite popular. Unintended consequence, however, I will take that money to the bank.
2:13 don't care about "thumbs down". Just make your videos! 😎
Thanks for your support!
Eric,
thank you for sharing. Whilst I don't always get your approach or style I hugely admire your craft and commitment. Please keep up the great work.
You’re welcome, thanks for the honest feedback much appreciated
Thanks this was pretty helpful. Im working on a 3d printed mech miniature and it has a cockpit canopy I'm trying print transparent. While I probably won't use urethane I'll happily take the rest of your process
Absolutely love your videos. I learn so much from them. Keep up the great work.
OO wow this is a great technique and thank you for sharing.
Alright Eric, I'm going to man up. Gotta do it. I've watched lots of your vids but I don't think I've ever commented. So here it is......your work is incredible. It's inspiring and I always learn a ton of stuff to apply to my own builds. Your work is completely unrelated to what I do but the types of thinking you apply to your projects, your problem solving skills, and your attention to detail is universal.
So from one youtube maker to another, you gotta know you are doing great work. Both your projects AND your videos. Don't let the haters get to you, it's part of the game, it's a sign of success on the platform. And if nothing else remember that as far as TH-cam is concerned a like and a dislike are exactly the same. It's engagement. Each thumbs down encourages the bots to show your videos to more people.
Have a good one Eric.
PS. I really need to get me some of your fine tip glue applicators!
Black Magic Craft thanks for your reply and support. Seems I punked everyone including my self with this video. The comments have been interesting and the views have been pretty good as well. I did not know what was going to happen with that bit about the haters, seems that the algorithm really doesn't care if you have thumbs up or down. It doesn't seem to matter apparently. Again, thanks for your support. I will check out your channel! looks interesting. Oh, I think you will like the lure lock bottles, super handy.
Kudos for asking for negative (constructive) comments instead of thumbs down!
Hit thumbs UP, just for that :)
Great results with the bottle too!
Thanks Eric, the company I work for just got in the form labs 3L and this helped me get the final part really clear!
Great 🙂👍 good to hear Kyle, hope you are doing well
You do make damn good videos and you get a thumbs up from me. Thank you for the free information that took you years of experience to acquire and hours of work to put into video and edit just so an underqualified amateur like myself can reference at will.
@joshua davis thank you for your feedback and support, very much appreciated!
You make top notch videos! Great job as usual.
you have a new subscriber, and obviously gave this video a thumbs up haha, I cant wait for winter so I can get back to my projects :) rock on Eric!!!
Big THANK YOU sir. That’s what I needed!
Personally I thought the rant was hilarious 😂
Was a good rant.
Yea Pansy’s!
This dude is right. Don't downvote unless you have something to say. You're not helping the creator by being ambiguous.
Thank you.
I have a cheap SLA machine at home and i will definetly try this Process at home! - Thanks
I like most of your videos. I always like your content. That said, I have observed that are often the youtubers who defy/confront their viewers, who receive even more backlash. It just never goes well. You can't do anything about it. It's how this platform works.
The creators who handle it best, just move on and focus on the content. They also address the audience as if we were clients or guests at your space, inviting us to hear what you want to share. Getting a 15-20% dislike ratio should make one wonder if there is anything one could improve: why other similar channels get better feedback? What do they do that I am not doing? what they don't do that I do? I would ask myself those questions. There's room everyone on YT no matter how unique your channel is. You don't have to change your style; just nail down what works that you also enjoy doing and stick to it. No one comes here to watch a rant. Most don't like drama either, unless it's channel about drama. We come because we like what you do and how you present it ...most of the time, anyway. The gist of it for me is: "I clicked on a video about "X subject". Well, then show me X subject, thanks" So that's my 2 cents. I spent some energy putting into words the dislike I gave you during the intro. I hope the feedback is appreciated.
Holy crap, that is night and day!
I am just a hobbyist, but this method will really help the look of some of my models where I need transparent windows or other accent pieces!
I just subscribed, love your style and content!
Glad it helped! thanks for the comment, watch the redo video of this one, for some more specific information.
Instead of using clear paint, maybe you can try carpenting "polyacrylic" finish. For the internal surface, just pour some in, shake it, and then pour it out for future reuse. The polyacrylic have good surface tension, so it will tend to stretch on it's own while curing producing smooth surface, saving you from sanding.
Polyurethane is *much* more resilient than polyacrylic. I'd be worried about it disolving into the stored liquid.
These videos are excellent, learned so much from them.
I really enjoyed that video beautifully done Sir.
Love the vid, Eric! You the king! Two questions. 1.) Why just sand to 400 grit? 2.) How would you sand the inside of an SLA print of a wine glass bowl? Keep it up, man!
You can go higher than 400 but you're talking about diminishing returns and it's not worth your time and you get the same results, for bottles either you need to take the bottom off or figure out how to sand inside.
Super informative, thank you!
I'm wondering what gloves do you use when you spray paint the part? vinyl?
I added a link in the description to the Latex gloves I use. I recommend them, I really like them.
Hey - I outsource my SLA bottles to a vendor (midwest) that I have been using for years. They seem to be the only one I can count on for totally water clear, stepless, polished, no haze, no runs, no drips, no error- perfect models. I work for major industry CPG, and clear bottles are about all I do. Their tricks are secret, but until I can find an alternate that lives up to their quality, they will remain my go to source. Sometimes I can't even tell the difference between PET and prototype SLA.
Who is that vendor?
@@berto455 I can’t divulge that here.
Lol, really?
@@EricStrebel yes, really. I do not wish to jeopardize my 10 year relationship with the vendor through TH-cam.
You're just giving them more work, I don't see how that's an issue.
Have you ever tried flitz? Be curious to see how it would make it come out after the final sanding. Then clear coat the outside only and it should be enough. Use a polishing ball on a drill. 👍
Hello sir, thank you for the video, i wonder how to know what size is right for the screw part of the in order to design a real life one that fits ?
Instead of spraying, we do dipping: just dip your "clear" SLA part in a 1 part polyurethane(or slow curing 2 part) and slowly retract it out of the liquid. The slower the pull, the thinner the layer will be. No drips! And the thickness of the layers is perfect everywhere.
Yo thumbs up for the thumbs down rant that shit was hilarious!!
Good work by the way. So, pardon me if you already have content on this but do you have any info on the client acquisition. Pricing & organization strategies ? If not that would make a stellar video.
These look sooo good
Alright, you want a reason for the thumbs down... well, the internet is a hard place to live in (or to make videos in).
The moment you show that you are affected by something someone says or do, people (humains... maybe) will try to get that reaction out of you.
I admire your desire to probably improve yourself with potentially critical comments... thats awsome.
In short, you need to laugh at them... while at the same time taking the interresting critical stuff... a bit paradoxal i know, but you seem very competant in your domain, good luck fellow 3d printing person :)
That's absolutely awesome! Great job!
Thank you very much!!
Absolutely awesome!!!!!!
I like the call out.... good video thanks
Hey, speaking of Stratasys, if you want to do some of your own prints in house for almost nothing, check out the SparkMaker SLA printer. It's like $250 and while it's small, it makes incredible parts (for its price). I use it to make bits and pieces for mold shaping.
In my opinion no resin printer is worth it. I just don't want to deal with the mess
@@EricStrebel That's fair. I do mostly urethane casting, so one extra goopy resin type getting everywhere is just another afternoon in the shop for me.
Thumbs down because you cant take hate and random trolls on the Internet, you know the place trolls are born! Great Video BTW!
Good work man! Keep it up. I’m always shocked by the thumbs down. Amazing video yet some how a person out there in the world was not satisfied!!!!! WTF. A few Small criticisms, shorter intro would help. When I want to learn something I like to get straight to the point. Promoting is good just short and sweet is all. And some of the examples where a bit repetitive. I love the extra detail you put in. But after the first example I had the idea and rest was easily skip able. Which would make life easier for you as well, cause some times less is more, and that would reduce your work load. But that’s it love your videos and they help me a lot! Best matt.
That's crazy..!
I'd love to have design skills like that.
Good job buddy.!
Tip: don't worry about the haters.
Thanks,b I appreciate your comment and support. Feel free to share what the world on social media. Thanks
Hi Eric. Tks for sharing this great solution. I am a hobbyst who 3D print slotcars in SLA. What would you recommend to give a transparent finish to these little cars window glasses? I don't have a spray paint gun.
With out a spray gun you options are limited, to rattle can and using a brush....with a brush much sanding you will need.
Eric great video. Question are you familiar with the clear glass bricks? Can you make these with this clear SLA?
Perhaps....
love your video! great work. just a question. is it bad for my healt if i use clear coating for a bottle i want to drink out of?
Check the manufacturer information to know for sure
Love it. Great job.
Glad you like it!
I’m from iraq 🇮🇶
Study industrial design department in bagdad university fine art you deserve the thumbs up 👍
So long salami. xD
Eric, thanks for this video, it's the best I've seen in regards to printed bottles. What was the cost per bottle?
depends on the data and how much volume it takes when they print is and what material its made of....upload one to their site and you will find out...FYI don't post comments to videos where they don't belong, i can't answer all the comments, BTW
@@EricStrebel Firstly don't tell me what to do. Secondly, I asked you a simple question withing my comment which you still have not answered SMH. I politely asked for months and came to my conclusion.
Try clear acrylic floor polish. It can be poured in then rolled around and poured out. For the outside it can be dipped, brushed or sprayed. Multiple coats can be built up. It can be thinned with water. I smoothed the inside of a rough plastic emblem by cutting the polish 50% with water, pouring it into the emblem to cover all the surface then poured out the excess. To dry I supported the emblem inside down atop the tips of three lad screws poked through a piece of cardboard. The silicone mold I made from the emblem came out smooth enough that when Spaz Stix Ultimate Mirror Chrome is sprayed on the inside it shines like vacuum sputtered aluminum, like the original when it was new nearly 70 years ago.
greggv8 Ok, I will investigate, thanks for the tip! any brand you recommend?
@@EricStrebel it used to be called Future. Look up what model builders are using on clear styrene parts these days
Another great video, Eric. I don't think it pays to fight the thumbs down'rs. Haters gonna hate and TH-cam actually rewards you for those anyway because they count it as engagement. Just keep cranking out quality content and you will keep growing. It looks like you are targeting potential customers too so you probably don't want to show an adversarial side if you want to make a good first impression on potential clients.
This video had great content and good flow. One constructive criticism... I always skip the part where you introduce yourself because it's too long to just wait through it after the first time. I think most views come from non-subscribers so I can see why it may be important for it to be there. If you haven't already, look at your retention graphs. If you get dropoffs there it's probably worth dropping, shortening or moving that section. If you don't get dropoffs then it's not a problem.
Thanks again for sharing. I shared this video in one of the resin printing groups that I'm in.
Ok, great feedback, I think those are valid claims. I will work on an updated intro! I appreciate your feedback, actually the only one who has left constructive criticism, much appreciated.
@@EricStrebel I understand. Most people seem to be afraid that constructive criticism would be offensive so they don't speak up. The others say whatever they think but don't help. I understand the frustration. I love getting constructive criticism but it's so rare.
Your videos keep getting better. I hope to see your channel grow.
Thank you, I hope so! I love making them.
I like using a 2K urethane as well, but I use an aerosol glamour good from SprayMax so I don't have to depend on a compressor and upkeep for it
Interesting stuff, that spray max, did not know that existed, is it a one time use once you break the seal on the can?
great technique, exactly what i was looking for, to find out how i can make transparent from translucent, but i have one final question: is the final product chemically inert, i mean if the bottle delivers or not ions or particles to the content? Thank you!
Yes, once the resin cures it is inert
@@EricStrebel hi, i also have a related question. Have you ever tried using regular resin or water washable resin? Did you notice any problems with resin after leaving water inside of a container for a very long time?
No, never tried it
would you be willing to tell me how you 3d print the threads so perfect I keep getting little loops under mine
These bottles are outsourced with a provider that has good renin printing capabilities, sound like you are printing FDM
Want to make better videos? Set your ego aside and let your work speak for itself.
Hi Eric, why did you chose to have the bottles printed as opposed to casting them?
That was an awesome video, thumbs up for u
Thanks! Glad you liked it 🙂
what filament u used? can i get that result with transparent pla?
Probably not with pla
thanks, i will use ur technic for my 3d printed car projects
Dude you're a badass thumbs down to the haters.
First time watching one of your videos.. not a hater enough to press thumbs down ever on youtube only up or nada. nonethless 2 minutes and 30 sec in, I am hating your video...sorry, the 1 minute initial marketing and then 30 seconds of emotional response to haters is a bit annoying considering I just want to know about the topic displayed in the title!
Honest man's opinion. Take it or leave it. Now let's see if an SLA print can be watertight or not, so I can decide if I should buy an sla 3d printer or not
Finished the video: Thumbs up for the quality info. enduring the first 2 min definitely worth it.
Which printer are you using?
You can watch the identical video here with out the rant, th-cam.com/video/egh0mJtYD24/w-d-xo.html, it gets a small fraction of the views, compared to this one. The video was trying to "punk" the TH-cam system, and it worked! Testing the TH-cam algorithm shows that it likes and promotes, videos that promote controversy.
what would you reccomend for a transparent RC jet canopy. I know it is not entirely related however I am trying to make a canopy or treat the stock ones so that I can see through it with my FPV camera on board. I know it will still be slightly distorted but I just want to fix the blurriness
This process could work
i approve this video
Eric Strebel What company did you order from? What material? Did you find 1mm to be brittle / easily breakable?
Stratasys, 1mm is perfect.
Thumbs up on the request for constructive criticism when people leave a thumbs down.
wish more people would leave the reason they thumbs down stuff, i wish it was a requirement.
How do you keep the resin from yellowing?
Do you know what the uv resistance to yellowing is of this material? For instance if it was used inside a headlight housing?
It's automotive grade clear coat, the other stuff I would have to find out from the spec sheet from the manufacturer
@@EricStrebel specifically the sla plastic used is what I meant. Sorry for not specifying.
It's called water clear Google it to find out. The problem is it's not that durable
I'm a M.E. Major and just eat up all your 3d printing videos... Keep up the good work Eric... Have any tips on making parts with low temp melting alloy casting?
No but I've been thinking about making one
@@EricStrebel What type of alloys would you recommend trying out? McMaster Carr over charges on everything lol....
Possibly tin bismuth
this is very good stuff!
Swiss family name :-)
Correct!
@@EricStrebel Kanton Aargau?
Yes, Uezwil Strebels
@@EricStrebel that's a beautiful area. I used to live close to the nearby lake for a few years when I was in Switzerland. A co-worker had the same name like you.
Is it possible to produce a bottle that supports carbonated beverages?
Yeah, possibility......not sure how strong a 3d printed part would be for that. Why would you want to do that as a prototype?
@@EricStrebel I'm assembling a drinks equipment that is inside a dispensing backpack in which I need a pet bottle made to measure, unfortunately it's extremely expensive to produce industrially, I'm looking for a way to make the bottle and cap made to measure or 3d printed parts. I'm from Brazil and here it's very difficult and expensive to find a solution
The 3D printed part would not last long. I would suggest finding an existing bottle that has the volume that you need if the container is not seen?
Why dont you get yellowing on your print? I need that trick🥺
Great video. Thanks for sharing the process. The results look great. Will this process work on aluminum? I have some whales to transport. : ) Cheers!
Took me a while to get the transparent aluminum reference, but I got it! sweet :-)
not a downvoter but I'll comment.. the content seems fine.. dont let trolls get under your skin. Downvotes happen.. some people do it just do be perverse. When you let it start to infect your content by being combative with your energy that energy starts to spiral. ..soon you have negative feedback coming because of your reaction to negative feedback, and so on.
Even if they were to comment.. the gross majority are not content creators, they are consumers. Even the ones that are genuine in their dislike may not know 'why' or how to do better, thats not their job. You do fine, have confidence in your product and make positive content for your supporters instead of subjecting your supporters to negativity stemming from those who were nevere here for you.
Thanks for your comment and support, much appreciated
I would like to know if you know a way to make it food real/safe coating. So I could store water or other liquids and I can drink from it without getting cancer from the coating.
It's a two part cured urethane, it should be inert, check with the paint mfg, for long term use. My guess is that the urethane would need to cure at least 7 weeks until it stopped giving off gas.
@@EricStrebel thank you a lot, I am currently experimenting about it.
so these would be fully safe to drink from, and could be printed and made clear at home?
Probably safe to drink from but could not be printed at home, watch the video and listen to the audio, they are SLA printed from an outside supplier.
A lot of Asian like farms will have their accounts downvote random videos/accounts to seem like they are legitimate accounts.
I'm not saying that is what's going on with your videos, but it's certainly one explanation.
Like farms, are basically companies that exist to upvote content for a price, and when they do they make the algorithm prioritize said content.
Interesting theory!
Can you make a transplant small tubes? Like a lip gloss tube?
Yeah, I suppose
@EricStrebel Thank you for responding back so quickly. I'm an entrepreneur who is interested in cosmetics, and I find it hard to gather information on manufacturers who print small tubes. I figured I'll get a printer and do it myself
For production they would probably not be printed but injection molded
2:11 "I need to talk to the haters out there that keep leaving me thumbs down on my videos ... if you're leaving me a thumb down that's bs"
Welcome to the Internet. Haters hate you for no meaningful reasons. A better question is "if you are not a hater, why do you leave a thumb down"
True!
is it food safe? or just for some stuffs?
Eh, the clear is automotive grade the so you could drink out of it, but they are prototypes and not meant to be used long term
I don't know why youtube recommended this video to me, but whatever, I'll check it out. The aggressive/entitled challenge to downvoters to explain themselves was pretty odd, but I can see how it would be irritating if there was a someone with multiple accounts or a group of people who for some reason were targeting you. But I just did a quick survey of about 15 of your recent videos and ... you don't have a downvote problem. Just about any video will get a few percent downvotes, and who knows why. That is just the way it is.
So getting back to this video, I know have context, and yeah, your rant was out of place. Don't get personally insulted that it happens; it just does.
As for me: I didn't vote on this video, as my interests are very different from what you do; I have no opinions about it. But now I get why this video is getting so many downvotes.
Thanks for the feedback, seems the algorithm doesn't care if it's up or down actually
Just be like a duck and let it roll off your back like water. Don't be a whiney content maker. It shouts desperate. Nobody wants to watch desperation.
You've got a good voice and have tons of potential! Keep it up! You'll make it happen. Just don't mention the thumbs down thing anymore. I am a total newb but that's the best thing I have learned thus far.
Actually worked out on this video, gets lots of views, because of the rant, kinda pumked the system on this one 😃 thanks for your comment and support I appreciate it
Love it man, just drop the background music when your talking.. it’s a little hard to here your voice. 👍
Love the sarcasm. =) \m/
The hazing is from the Cleaning liquid they used. You need to let it dry out before uv curing the object or a hazy film happens. I'm guessing you don't have a SLA printer?
Nope, stratsys printed them
What filement did you use?
Resin printed
@@EricStrebel oh Do you think PetG transparent will have same look?
Nope, made a video about it th-cam.com/video/TPvy2CZu-fc/w-d-xo.html
As an avid TH-cam watcher (came here from Hackaday) - **almost every** TH-cam video has dislikes, and your videos are in the "normal video" ratio of dislikes. I don't know the reason why people dislike individual videos, I personally rarely do that, so it's baffling for sure. However, one thing that you never do is complain about it.
It's pointless, the people disliking won't really listen to you - they have their reasons to press "Dislike" and they probably won't speak up in the comments, hell, no guarantee they even watch your video in full. However, for the people that actually like your videos, no matter if they press "thumbs up" or not, they came here to listen about interesting things - but you're spending their time talking about people that disliked your video, a minority of your viewers for which you don't even really understand the varied reasons behind the action you define them by. When worded in a confrontational way, people might thumbs down your video because they're confronted with a negative thing when they just wanted to watch interesting tech content, or just for the contrarian sake of it.
Some people will like your video, some won't. However, the dislikes are actually overrepresented on YT compared to likes. How? People are more likely to "thumbs down" a video they disliked than they are to "thumbs up" a video they liked. This is similar to people leaving negative feedback on stores, they readily do it, but to get positive feedback, you have to ask.
I get your problem, however. Some people that "thumbs down" your videos actually have useful stuff to tell. Since you are interested in feedback - I suggest you word this differently. I.e. "Like this video? Leave a thumbs up. Dislike it? Leave a thumbs down, and please leave a comment suggesting what I could do to improve my videos." People that actually leave dislikes meaningfully (some don't) won't feel attacked, but you do remind there's a way to let you know what is it that they're not comfortable with. Granted, not all feedback deserves to be taken into account, so don't worry. There are people out there that will dislike you simply because they i.e. dislike your voice =D
Thank you for some honest feedback, very much appreciated! I alike the engagement :-)
Just for sake of informing, 3D systems clear Accura is fully transparent. Haven't tried SSY but looks like i won't xD o/
Good info
Is this method food safe?
"If your leaving me a thumbsdown, thats bullshit" BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I fuckin love tihs guys rant
Have you tired coating with Epoxy's. I have purchased the XTC-3D and have with sanding and polish turned the surface into glass smooth.. still at first stage of testing myself.. experimenting with additions of thinners for better initial application.. but very promising.. and only video comment is I found you repeated saying things more than I prefer.. but I find most people to slow at getting to the point with stuff. .so maybe my issue..
Only have used the automotive clear. Post on social media and tag me when you have results
16 bottles for a couple grand!!! they better be made of gold for that !
What type of clear coat is it?
Two part urethane
Your videos are always informative and well done. I'm surprised though that you don't know that there are a lot of immature children with monkey brains that find pleasure in giving all videos a thumbs down just for the hell of it. Since they don't have any friends or family, its their only way of getting noticed, even if it's in their own feeble little minds. The best way to handle it is just to ignore them like everyone else does.
Thanks for your comment and support, very much appreciated! .!!
OMFG this.
I am giving you a thumbs down for the thumbs down rant. Honestly man, it is just going to happen. Great information though!
Thanks for the comment, much appreciated
@@EricStrebel The rant in itself was fine with me, but the language you used there I really don't appreciate.
Can a 3D printed bottle be safely used to drink from?
Perhaps once it is sealed, check the manufacturer's material sheet to see how safe the material you're printing with is
Did you say a couple of grand! 16 bottles?
Yes, stuff cost money
Can you get away with just using a typical clear coat spray can rather than using that urethane finish you used?
Yes
Great! Thank you!@@EricStrebel
this video is damnnnn gud
Acetone!
How much for a taillight assembly for my car?
Send the file over so I can take a look at the volume of the part to be printed
TH-cam just recommended me your channel. Great Video btw!
16 bottles are worth a couple grand? have I've been shooting myself in the foot with my prices on resin 3D printing services!? Holy crap! Time to re-evaluate my prices! Btw, whoever is printed those bottles is using the shittiest settings or the shittiest machines! I have seen friends of mine print better results with their $200 SLA printers! There is no way I would ever send something like that to a client! WTF?!
Same, I don't geht how THOSE results are a couple grand?! Or might it be the project/commission itself that would get him a couple of grand?
You just have no idea how much things cost
Love the rant on thumbs down! You also have to love the troll comments who think the videos should be tailored to them and the heck with the rest of the world! Keep up the good work as the kids say "your videos are dope!" (they still this right :-)
What 3d printer can do this bottle ? I have around 1500 dolars 😔
any resin printer that has the build volume should be able to do it, the trick is getting the correct resin
@@EricStrebel Can CR 30 Creality do the job ?
Dunno, possibly, don't know anything about that printer
Thumbs up here! Great stuff! Just found your channel. Subscribed.
1:40 when he said "it's looks like shit, how can this past a quality check" i have to laugh because he is american and he has a american product in front of him haha
That sure looks like fdm, not sla prints.
Are you sure they were sla?
thumbs down only because ur mad in the vid!!!! thats how YT work man
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that's not very helpful, but thanks 😄