2:07 to be fair, you could argue. Connor’s reaction was more of a “OK that’s the story we’re going with“ kind of acknowledgment. Like it took a moment to process that that is the cover story they are going for when people ask why they already knew each other
@@dyllangames3592Yeah, but when would he have been able to tell Connors? Otto finds out Peter's identity in the first game, has no connection with Connors in that game and isn't even mentioned by either Peter or Otto, and is almost immediately thrown in prison after finding out Peter's identity. So, this doesn't make sense logically.
Another thing with Iron Man VR, one of the loading screen trivia mentions that Oscorp was founded by Norman Osborn AND Otto Octavius, which to my knowledge that only happens in the Insomniac continuity. So another point to them being connected
I would love an Arkham Origins type prequel game featuring a much younger Peter facing off against one of the classic foes for the first time. Whenever I've imagined this theoretical game, I always kinda wanted Vulture to be the focus villain but now I really want Lizard. I think a Young Pete fighting the Lizard and Connors possibly finding out his true identity would be so perfect
Just my opinion but I don’t know if itd work because, well, how many games are they going to set in the same city? Even if it’s an older version. They’d have to limit his traversal to some extent, yet find a way to make it fun.
@@Nutterbutter123why would they have to limit the city? With each game the city can get bigger, there’s still a lot of Queens a Brooklyn you can’t go to, who knows maybe in Spider-Man 3 we might get the entire state of New York.
@@Zypemaytro I didn’t say limit the city, I said limit the traversal. If we’re talking about an inexperienced Peter, he wouldn’t have the web wings. And he’d have less tech at his disposal. Probably inexperienced at swinging, I think Miles was able to get away with it because he had Pete to mentor him, even with his animations. If anything, assuming they did do all of New York and other cities, they could integrate a mechanic where Peter gets around in his civilian clothes and uses a motor bike/scooter and then if he has to swings and develops his parkour. Doubtful all this would be, including even this wishful “origins” game.
2:27 I agree that May's death affected Peter's mental state, but I think people dont realise how close the gap between him and his villains is. In their description and some of the backpacks, it is often stated how Peter's fights with them were never easy and how he nearly died multiple times. In the second game, not only are most of his 1v1 against villains that are, by default, stronger than the ones he's used to fight, but is also his first time facing them. The best example and prof of this is Scorpion: stated to leave Peter severely injured in ALL of their previous fights, eassily caught him by surprise 3 times in the main missions, and his poison was going to kill him If he didnt made a cure. Then, Kraven came in, and after he nullified said poison, he efforteless defeated Gargan.
Peter definitely felt weaker in the story, but I think it was because of a combination of the enemies becoming more powerful and Peter not giving himself time to rest and recover after the events of the first game I mean this guy had several bones broken and continues to be Spider-Man for all that time. Something tells me he probably isn’t working at full capacity. At least until the Symbiote heals his body.
Pete’s landlord knowing that he is Spider-Man is really funny. When I first saw the video title I thought you were gonna make an Arkham, Insomniac connection.
Wouldn’t it make more sense for Norman Osborn to hire taskmaster? That way he can study Spider-Man’s moves to create tech to counter them. Then when we finally get Green Goblin he will be an even match for a Spider-Man with 10+ years of experience
There's also the fact that the Spider that bit Miles was a genetically engineered spider to not only recreate the effects of creating Spider-Man, but creating a stronger version. In the Penthouse mission, MJ mentions how Oscorp figured out it was one of their spiders that created Spider-Man, so they then started to try and recreate it, but better.
I like the nerfed theory a lot, it would make sense (maybe I’m coping) but it’s also like in Sam Raimi’s Spiderman 2 when Peter has to give up being spiderman cuz his mental
With your Venom theory, Peter was also about to kill Kraven before he got rid of the suit, so he had a bloodlust that must have transferred to Harry when he got the suit back. Also regarding Peter going to Conners and taking off his mask, I thought the exact same thing as to why he took his mask off to see Conners before 'bumping' into Harry (I literally played this mission last night, lol)
I feel like Peter was more nerfed because of the reasons you mention but also he probably developed a reliance on the help Miles gives him, he trusts Miles after the events of SM:MM to do quite a lot, so him being more easily knocked about could be him being too relaxed from having help all the time
14:30 "All ghost are specters but not all spectors are ghosts". What Spider-Man is saying is the spectors he fought weren't considered to be ghost. Meaning they weren't undead souls. But non living thing that has similar appearance and acts of a spector. I think he is referring to Mysterio's illusion clones. They look like spectors but they are not actually ghost. But they have aspects of specters like being scary looking, are visible and have menace intent.
@GothamPaladin thats awesome to hear! And yeah of course, I love all your stuff so 100% support for everything you do! Also, I can't lie, that was a comeback for the record books lol
Really i think its better for the insomniac spiderman to only have it in the universe since it just makes you wonder what were they doing while venom is taking over the planet
I don’t feel Peter was nerfed whatsoever, he saved miles a couple of times & miles saved Peter a few times, that’s just a staple of a dual protagonists game, they’ll often put the heroes in situations where they need to rely on each other here & there.
I do think that he wasn't working at full capacity here due to his mental issues. Someone once made the analogy to a star football player that always scores and such. That same player's mom dies right before a game, and then the player just starts messing up during the game. I felt like the same was happening to Peter. He wasn't nerfed, he was struggling mentally, which affected his overall performance. This then caused him to lean more and more into the symbiote, like a strength-enhancing drug. Other than that, it's as you mentioned. But I also think that someone like Kraven was just a better tactician, and Spidey has misjudged a punch in the past (He misjudged how hard he should punch Shocker, then got hit after), it's just that this time he was unlucky enough to get stabbed because he genuinely thought Kraven would just be some regular beefy guy. And then the rest of his villains aren't exactly slouches either. I mean, Sandman apparently got a major power boost, according to Miles and Peter.
@ I can agree with that, he might not have been working at full capacity due to the issue of feeling like he failed aunt may, that’s different though then being nerfed, also the football analogy is slightly off cause in most cases when an athlete loses a loved one they play better then ever, like they’re playing that game for who passed away, that’s happened time & time again.
But Miles was saved once, ONCE in the game by Peter, when he almost got eaten by Sandman, but Peter always lose without help and he always got saved by anybody: Miles, Harry, Wraith, Mr. Negative. So why Peter isn't nerfed, if reality says the opposite?
@@acedoomer5244 needing help a few times isn’t the same thing as being nerfed, nerfed means less powerful, this was a duel protagonist game so they put the heroes into more intense situations that needed both heroes… and Peter saved miles on 2 occasions not one.
I liked this game. I just Platinumized it. I believe Peter was training Miles/Spin(name is on a poster in Miles's room) to be the ONLY Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man. Like Bruce Wayne and Terry McGinnis. Maybe the next game will be Arkham Spider-Man? Instead of switching between two Batmen or 2 Spider-Men, you can switch between day and knight. With the Carnage missions, I feel like Hailey would be strong against Kletus and Shriek in the Future(Foundation). And I can see Mr. Li trying to reform himself and trying to get into Miles's good graces. Even though Miles will NEVER forgive him. Perhaps Doc Ock will open a dimension that leads to Gotham City.
I agree with the nerf theory cuz spider mans powers work better when he’s calm but when he’s still stressed about aunt Mays death, the mortgage, and he is also training a new spider man that’s gonna take a toll on someone
Awesome video🔥thank you for making this. I definitely liked your theory about why Peter was nerfed. Personally besides of what you said I think one reason Peter was nerfed was because of how overjoyed he was because he got Harry back that made him lose focus sometimes, like he was always thinking about his future and the things he will do in Emily May foundation . That just one idea though.
I very much got the sense the symbiote was something that bonded to Harry forcefully via Norman and Kurt's experiments to save his life, typically the symbiotes are drawn to powerful negative emotions which is why it bonds so well with the anger of Eddie Brock or bitterness of Peter, etc. When Harry cam directly in contact with Peter the symbiote IMMEDIATELY tried bonding but only got so far as copying the spider logo due to the brief connection, the symbiote caught the scent of Peter's grief and frustration and it wanted to go to him, and then when it bonds with Harry once more all the stewing negative emotions manifest in a primal form due to Harry's pure rage and spite. Also regarding Carnage, my guess is they use him as a smaller antagonist that starts the first third or so of the game like Mr.Negative, then Peter loses the Anti Venom suit, this is when Norman decides to go Goblin to get the upper hand and team up with Ock to finally kill Spider Man. Or use Ock as a patsy before going Goblin as a last ditch effort.
@@jeremy144713 yeah venom game after Tony Todd died? The game prolly getting scrapped expecially after insomniac getting hacked and ruining all chances of a spiderman 2 dlc we finna wait till 2028 for spiderman 3 so have fun playing the venom game in your dreams cause tony Todd don’t recording anymore voice lines
DLC for Spider-Man 2 was not cancelled because we never had any indication there was planned for this game, especially after going through the leaked material - there was no sign there was new content in development, some of the leaked "roadmap" of three part dlc was fan made and blue beetle stuff was just cut content from the base game, as there is cut content in the first game that still has not re-appeared in the series. Carnage stuff was always more likely saved for the Venom spin-off.
It’s not that Peter was nerfed it’s just that he was dealing with tougher threats and his own personal turmoil holding him back. Which is why miles feels stronger, because he only has to deal with the stronger threats
GP to me respectfully I really dont think he is nerfed, at least the way people think so, peter being thrown around like a ragdoll is completely normal for peter parker, especially with insomniacs version, peter is known for getting beat up and always getting up, which is exactly what insomniac peter does almost everytime, and he has the anti venom suit, far more powerful than he was in sm1. But you can argue peter wasn't mentally in a right place, which is true, but the people saying he was nerfed because they wanted to make Miles look good is kinda ridiculous, there completely ignoring the stiry reasons, amd him having help is perfectly normal for insomniac peter.
I love the theory of Peter's mental state connects to the Symbiote. It's a lore thing that the Symbiote doesn't turn people dark or evil; it helps you embrace and let out deeper, unhealthy emotions. Venom as a character is the embodiment of Peter's toxic emotions, all the mistakes he made when having the Symbiote. Even Insomniac said the Symbiote is an allegory for drug addiction.
Considering that Doctor Octopus and Venom were introduced way later in Peter’s career as Spider-Man, there’s a possibility that the X-Men hasn’t been established yet. Mutants probably do exist, yet Prof. Xavier hasn’t assembled the mansion, school, and the team.
I think it was Otto himself who hired the taskmaster to see if he would join his sinister 6. Since he said he was hired to see if spidey was worthy of joining them, n Otto not only knew who Pete was, but genuinely respected, admired, n cared for him, they were close in their personal lives, not to mention all the bad press spidey usually gets probably mad otto think he could turn peter. I suppose he could've went through aim to do so but I feel it was Doc Oct who was the real one behind the hit.
4:24 peter was nerfed but not a lot The venom of spiderman 2 was basically the knull. Thats why. In first game he fought sinister six all in once and lost while in comics he won. This means he was nerfed more in sm1 rather than sm2 .
Just to add to the 'Nerfed' theory....you think he was holding back the whole time against Venom because Pete knows it's Harry? If Pete's emotions are holding him back , then why wouldn't it apply towards his best friend too? Also with the symbiote you have to acknowledge that it is a sentient being. It's a parasite that requires symbiosis to thrive and Peter is a perfect physical specimen to be a host. So not only did Peter pass along his bad mental state but also had a messy divorce with the symbiote.
This is just me, but I do not think Peter was nerfed I think it’s mostly he’s just getting older and more worn out as time goes on. Like when he first got the Symbiote he says ‘I feel energized’ as if he wasn’t before and later on when he takes off the Symbiote Dr Conners ask if he’s feeling any kind of symptoms
I think it more of Aunt May because even if Peter is getting older he powers still remains and like Kraven says he often hold back when he fights his enemies to prevent killing them. In the Spider Man 2 movie Peter temporarily loses his powers due to his emotional state as he going through many stress in his life so the same goes for the game as we see that Peter still blames himself for Aunt May’s death
10:03 you didn't bring it up but in iron Man VR when you're in the loading menu there are times where you can see them say oscorp was made by Norman and Otto which if I'm not wrong insomniacs the only one that had Otto be one of the founding members
I think that somehow Spider-Man discovered his parents were SHIELD agents, not Peter. That would explain why he can't tell because that could expose his identity
From what I heard of what we learn of the symbiote in the comics, you might be right about the Venom theory. I heard this theory before. I didn't read the comics, so I don't know for sure, but another video I watched said that in the comics it's revealed that the Venom symbiote was not always aggressive and only learned that from being bonded with a psychopath on another planet before coming to Earth. Symbiotes are not born evil, they learn based on who they get bonded to and carry those traits forward. It's possible that in the Insomniac universe, the symbiote was fine when it was first bonded with Harry but picked up all these negative traits from Peter. I really like this theory. I like your last idea too. I also hope they don't keep the Anti-Venom suit. I think it could happen in this Venom game I keep hearing about. My theory has been that Insomniac had two potential scenarios for Carnage: either DLC or a Venom game based on the response to that Venom mission in Spider-man 2. Since people starting begging for a Venom game after playing that, my theory is that they went with that instead of DLC. Peter with the Anti-Venom suit could show up in that and maybe he could use it up to beat Carnage like you said. Or, more likely in my opinion, it'll be to defeat Knull. I predict Carnage will be in the Venom game, but not the main baddie. It'll be Knull. He has already been teased in Spider-man 2 as well since his symbol was on the meteorite. At any rate, I hope Carnage is not in Spider-man 3. I personally do not want any symbiotes to be apart of that game. I feel it'll distract from the Goblin storyline too much and plus we've had enough symbiotes in Spider-man games to last us for a while. It's better handled in a Venom game I think.
7:44 I disagree since all we see is the mask and web shooters and he takes those with him. The only thing the landlord would see is chips, manuals and even concept drawings for gagets but most people wouldn’t understand it Also in the middle the game the landlord calls Peter saying that it’s his third and final warning and that eviction proceedings would commence by the end of the week unless full payment was given. A truly final warning call is possible but it’s likely that Peter didn’t answer so it wouldn’t matter either way
that's kinda how venom works in most continuities it's a combo of peter either being in a bad mental state and lashing out, or the symbiote holding resentment for being discarded people often compare it to a bitter ex.
Heres a fun fact/ theory: Insom Spideys Comic counterpart is Not canon to The games, but more interestingly Game Spidey is a B varient of Comic Spidey. What a varient is is kind of unclear, but in ATSV, its said that different Universes have different Varients. This is there to probably explain how there are 2 Spider Societies that havent met yet. I havent personally read all the comics myself, but the easiest way to debunk them being the same universe is that Comic Spidey says there are only 6 heroes in his world. The heroes being the Avengers. If we go by traditional avengers line ups, Best case scenario is where he isnt counting black widow and Hawkeye as heroes, which not only makes no sense but there are more than 6 confirmed heroes in Insoms universe List from the top of my head: Captain America Iron Man Black Panther Daredevil - Peter knows he exists Dr strange - Peter MIGHT know him Wolverine - his suit is shown in leaks The avengers exist , which could mean Hulk Ant man Hawkeye Thor Black widow The FF is confirmed so Sue Johnny Ben Reed Which is already over 6. The defenders might be around because Jessica is Peters age and this means they've gone through the stuff in the 8 years since. Iron fist is confirmed to be around though
Peter isn’t “nerfed” In spider-man two, he genuinely isn’t doing as well as spider-man because he’s trying to do to much as spider-man AND Peter. That’s the whole theme of the game and why ain’t may has that speech in the beginning.
Venom, symbiotes in general, are emotional parasites. Harry is a meek person, his emotional world is more contained and not as impassioned as Peter. Peter has a lot of weight and power, and responsibility to himself, his friends, his city, his community, a lot of grief. He's emotional and dramatic and he spreads himself too thin. He's intellectually engaged, but he is not a zen man, and he is the perfect host for a creature that feeds on swirling negative thoughts. The "Venom" symbiote was always Venom, it just lay dormant on a dormant host until it met a host more suited to its needs.
For me I am under the firm belief that Peter did NOT corrupt the symbiote. Every single time Spider-Man got close to Harry it constantly tried to get onto him until it saw its opportunity when Peter “died”. Venom simply saw Peter as a better host but went back to Harry because Peter rejected him and tried to use Harry to get Peter to join the symbiotes
Get rid of anti venom in a venom game where the remnants of the symbiote finds a random reporter guy you play as (who could be connected to Peter through MJs new job) called Eddie Brock and you team up with anti venom spider man and wraith to beat carnage and the anti venom is destroyed to neutralise carnage but it also kills venom making Eddie brock a normal guy again so he can be used in spider man 3 without having to keep venom
My version of the venom being created by peter theory is that venom did exist within the symbiote, but because Harry was so light-hearted, joyful and excited, it couldn't really 'take over'. that's why when harry is agent venom there's many times when the symbiote tries to latch onto peter. it can sense the power he has, and when it finally attaches to him, then it starts to be able to take over. Then when peter takes it off it still has all the power it got from him, and add that on to an angry, sick, vengeful guy like harry is at the time, you got yourself a venom.
Despite the underwhelming story of Spider-Man 2, Insomniac’s version is still my second favorite version of Spider-Man (the first being Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man. Gotta respect the GOAT).
My theory is that dr octavius hired taskmaster. Think about it he came at roughly the same time that Otto started saying he wanted to improve missing limbs not just replace them. And a very minor detail is that Otto also started planning the prison break and sinister 6 at this time long before the arms messed with his head As seen on the board in the lab. And he knew he’d have to stop Spider-Man but didn’t want to kill Peter (cause he was only pretending to think Peter was SM “suit maker”) So hired taskmaster to figure out how to do that.
i feel like if we go with the idea that Peter uses all of the anti-venom suit to defeat carnage, that would mean it would be the last peter driven story as he would die as a result. according to my understanding of the symbiote, it is what kept Harry Osborne alive from his disease & it is what revived peter after kraven essentially killed him. after peter gave up the symbiote the first time, Connors and him were discussing the effects of him no longer having the suit, which could result in fatality. so that being said, spider-man three would ultimately be peter’s last heroic battle before passing the mantle fully to Miles (& other spider hero’s like Cindy) in his death if the full use of anti venom theory is true.
Some Landlords have property managers. His former landlord may not have even been in Peter’s apartment. The X on the mansion/hospital could be from the fire cult marking their territory.
I have a theory about the meteorite venom used to infect all of New York: The rock was intentionally created by knull to stay in contact with the symbiote as it was tasked to take over an entire planet. so after years of separation from the meteorite, the symbiote started to regain its memories after it touched the rock, which then started to take full control of the host’s body and personality (which is why Peter decided to keep the suit for himself instead of giving it back to Harry like he originally intended) and unlocked its true potential such as being able to create hives, reproduce and grow wings to fly. But once the meteorite was destroyed, the symbiote loses contact to all of those powers as well as knull himself. Leaving anyone who is the host of symbiote full control of it.
I just assumed Peter trusted dr Conners enough to show his identity he knows he isn't a bad guy or most likely it's because he just got an alien off his body so I think his secret identity for 1 person isn't a big deal to him
I mean, canonically, the symbiote is influenced by the host as much as the host is by the symbiote. In the comics, the Venom symbiote is only as maniacal as it is because at some point in its past, it bonded with Deadpool, and that broke its mind.
That’s just a post 90’s concept, in the original symbiote saga story the alien couldn’t influence the host’s mind just the body when they were unconscious. The animated Spider-Man series from the 90’s started the whole influence the host mind and the rest was history
I think the symbiote changes depending on what your goal is like Peter he wanted to be efficient so he had quick moves harry (before) was thinking about his friends and change harry (after) wanted control so he was strong and could control people by changing them + he is big to show strength and power
For your last idea it could be the opening act. Open up the game with Peter hunting Carnage, Carnage went on a rampage and killed dozens and need to be stopped, so Peter with help from Miles hunt him down, Carnage doesn’t want to un-bond from Cletus so much that it take all the anti-venom power Peter have to erase the symbiote and a side mission focus on recharge the anti-venom level to regain not all but some of the abilities it granted back, also perfect time to strike when Spider-Man powers are weaken which I fell Osborn would do.
peter getting his ass kicked by kraven sandman scream and venom makes sense since he only went against enhanced humans in the first game and hurt his hand by punching shocker
I think that Peter misjudged the punch, and simply didn't hit Shocker as hard as he should have (remember that afterwards during the fight, Spidey mops the floor with Shocker). The same thing happens with Kraven, as he thought Kraven would just be some big guy. He then got surprised, as he did in the first game and realised he misjudged again, but by that time he was unlucky enough to get stabbed by him.
Vulture, Dock Ock, Electro is not so enhanced to be more durable then normal person. Plus, every villain you mentioned are enhanced people too, so... No, you wrong
I still believe that conners doesn't know peter is Spider-Man and peter just removing the mask is because his spider sense didn't go off so he knew he was safe.
I'm of two minds when it comes to the Anti-Venom Suit's fate. One is that if that Venom game is real, he will lose it there fighting Carnage, as you predicted. The other thought is that they could bring back suit powers in the next game as they had with Spider-Man PS4 and have the symbiote rage as a suit power. That one is a stretch, I know, but I think that could please both sides of the argument.
I think that iron man vr is talking about osborn being green goblin, and the blue gene is maybe spider island where every new yorker gets spider powers
I've always believed that SP3 will go with the Red Goblin. Perhaps Carnage is set up as the "first"/marketed villain for the game, in a similar fashion to Martin Lee from the first game and Kraven from the second one, and even the final Symbiote to deal with, then after Goblin shows up, Spidey kicks his @$$ and then Goblin decides to bond with Carnage to get stronger, becomes the Red Goblin, and then Peter "purges" Carnage with Anti-Venom, like you said, but remember; Anti-Venom saved Peter's life pretty much, so it could mean than taking it off him could result in him losing his life... so what if Pete dies fighting Red Goblin, similar to how Goblin killed him in the Ultimate Universe and then Miles is the main Spidey in there? What if they follow this route?
I really like that "Venom wasn't created until Peter wore it" theory, but also when Peter and Harry fist bumped and the symbiote grabs Pete, if you have no headphones, you can hear Venom say "Peter" through the speaker Loved the video, btw. Pls do more vids like this.
Wish they progressed Lizard arc, allow already Connors to transform back to human with hand intact - then make him have ability to freely go in/out of Lizard form but slowly his 'Mr Hyde' overtaking both of his bodies, story would be great.
In the show Ultimate Spider-Man in season 4 Anti-Venom was basically created to purge/destroy other Symbiotes and in the show Anti-Venom was absorbing and destroying Carnage Symbiotes in the episode Symbiote Saga part 2 and at the end of the episode Anti-Venom was destroyed when he plunged himself into the heart to save the city and to try and defeat Carnage. So basically what I’m getting is we’ve seen Anti-Venom get destroyed while trying to defeat Carnage in the past so your theory makes sense and could happen in Spider-Man 3.
I have a theory that Jonah is apart of the Flame Cult… hear me out, he criticizes Spider-Man and every other villain or villain group… except the Flame Cult. He actually defended these guys even though they’ve made themselves publicly known as terrorist, by attempting to blow tankers, buildings and brand people. So either he’s apart of the cult, or is being blackmailed by them because he owes them something.
2:07 to be fair, you could argue. Connor’s reaction was more of a “OK that’s the story we’re going with“ kind of acknowledgment. Like it took a moment to process that that is the cover story they are going for when people ask why they already knew each other
That actually makes sense
That or the fact that Peter worked with Otto and him, Otto knew Peter was spiderman, kinda makes sense that Otto can talk to Connors about it.
@@dyllangames3592Yeah, but when would he have been able to tell Connors? Otto finds out Peter's identity in the first game, has no connection with Connors in that game and isn't even mentioned by either Peter or Otto, and is almost immediately thrown in prison after finding out Peter's identity. So, this doesn't make sense logically.
Another thing with Iron Man VR, one of the loading screen trivia mentions that Oscorp was founded by Norman Osborn AND Otto Octavius, which to my knowledge that only happens in the Insomniac continuity. So another point to them being connected
I would love an Arkham Origins type prequel game featuring a much younger Peter facing off against one of the classic foes for the first time.
Whenever I've imagined this theoretical game, I always kinda wanted Vulture to be the focus villain but now I really want Lizard. I think a Young Pete fighting the Lizard and Connors possibly finding out his true identity would be so perfect
Just my opinion but I don’t know if itd work because, well, how many games are they going to set in the same city? Even if it’s an older version. They’d have to limit his traversal to some extent, yet find a way to make it fun.
@@Nutterbutter123why would they have to limit the city? With each game the city can get bigger, there’s still a lot of Queens a Brooklyn you can’t go to, who knows maybe in Spider-Man 3 we might get the entire state of New York.
@@Zypemaytro I didn’t say limit the city, I said limit the traversal. If we’re talking about an inexperienced Peter, he wouldn’t have the web wings. And he’d have less tech at his disposal. Probably inexperienced at swinging, I think Miles was able to get away with it because he had Pete to mentor him, even with his animations. If anything, assuming they did do all of New York and other cities, they could integrate a mechanic where Peter gets around in his civilian clothes and uses a motor bike/scooter and then if he has to swings and develops his parkour. Doubtful all this would be, including even this wishful “origins” game.
@@RamChop451 I want to see Spider-Man go against Electro for the first time, he killed some police officers and Jamison blamed Spider-Man for it.
Rip Tony Todd
Facts 2024 is a cruel beast
Who is he?
@@ianbra7593 He was the voice of Venom in Spider-Man 2.
still remember when he played zoom in the flash. fly high, tony! 🕊️
is he dead really?
2:27 I agree that May's death affected Peter's mental state, but I think people dont realise how close the gap between him and his villains is.
In their description and some of the backpacks, it is often stated how Peter's fights with them were never easy and how he nearly died multiple times. In the second game, not only are most of his 1v1 against villains that are, by default, stronger than the ones he's used to fight, but is also his first time facing them.
The best example and prof of this is Scorpion: stated to leave Peter severely injured in ALL of their previous fights, eassily caught him by surprise 3 times in the main missions, and his poison was going to kill him If he didnt made a cure. Then, Kraven came in, and after he nullified said poison, he efforteless defeated Gargan.
Peter definitely felt weaker in the story, but I think it was because of a combination of the enemies becoming more powerful and Peter not giving himself time to rest and recover after the events of the first game
I mean this guy had several bones broken and continues to be Spider-Man for all that time. Something tells me he probably isn’t working at full capacity. At least until the Symbiote heals his body.
He took a break when he went overseas with MJ tho ..
@@Mr.PR2000literally a whole game on vacation😂😂 and comes back WEAKER
@@DOWNTOWNMAK Facts I don’t think we want him taking anymore breaks 😂
Yeah about a weeks break which is not enough time to heal anything
@@DOWNTOWNMAK same strength stronger enemies
When Spidey mentioned fighting Spectres, I actually thought, "What if he's talking about Moon Knight, AKA Marc Spector, and making a joke out of it?"
Pete’s landlord knowing that he is Spider-Man is really funny. When I first saw the video title I thought you were gonna make an Arkham, Insomniac connection.
Wouldn’t it make more sense for Norman Osborn to hire taskmaster? That way he can study Spider-Man’s moves to create tech to counter them. Then when we finally get Green Goblin he will be an even match for a Spider-Man with 10+ years of experience
well he doesn't have a reason to at that point
There's also the fact that the Spider that bit Miles was a genetically engineered spider to not only recreate the effects of creating Spider-Man, but creating a stronger version. In the Penthouse mission, MJ mentions how Oscorp figured out it was one of their spiders that created Spider-Man, so they then started to try and recreate it, but better.
I hope taskmaster returns in spider-man 3 for that exact reason.
No cause the person who hired taskmaster wanted to hire spiderman
I like the nerfed theory a lot, it would make sense (maybe I’m coping) but it’s also like in Sam Raimi’s Spiderman 2 when Peter has to give up being spiderman cuz his mental
More like emotional state because Peter was going through a lot of stress (MJ, school, rent, Aunt May, Harry, and the guilt of Norman Osborn’s death)
With your Venom theory, Peter was also about to kill Kraven before he got rid of the suit, so he had a bloodlust that must have transferred to Harry when he got the suit back. Also regarding Peter going to Conners and taking off his mask, I thought the exact same thing as to why he took his mask off to see Conners before 'bumping' into Harry (I literally played this mission last night, lol)
I feel like Peter was more nerfed because of the reasons you mention but also he probably developed a reliance on the help Miles gives him, he trusts Miles after the events of SM:MM to do quite a lot, so him being more easily knocked about could be him being too relaxed from having help all the time
16:53 in the Spider-Man 2 prequel comic, miles and peter don't believe in magic
14:30 "All ghost are specters but not all spectors are ghosts". What Spider-Man is saying is the spectors he fought weren't considered to be ghost. Meaning they weren't undead souls. But non living thing that has similar appearance and acts of a spector. I think he is referring to Mysterio's illusion clones. They look like spectors but they are not actually ghost. But they have aspects of specters like being scary looking, are visible and have menace intent.
Love the Video man! Also happy to see you branching out, I hope you had fun with something a bit different cuz I definitely enjoyed watching!
@@TheDeviousYodeler Hey dude! Wanted to say I saw your chats after the smash bros tournament with my friends haha, appreciate the support dude 🤝
@GothamPaladin thats awesome to hear! And yeah of course, I love all your stuff so 100% support for everything you do! Also, I can't lie, that was a comeback for the record books lol
It's weird first spiderman channels started to cover batman, now batman channels cover spiderman
It’s hard to make superhero videos for a long time without it being repetitive
Just wait until wolverine comes out, then they'll both be talking about that
True
No one talks about avengers game though wonder why? 😅
@@userunknown4331 dunno about that but it is likely
R.I.P Tony Todd, you were amazing as Candy Man all that time ago, and sensational as Venom in SM2
Insomniac should make their own Marvel games universe at this point
They are with Wolverine being in the same universe! Hope they can keep going, I love the games
@@GothamPaladin And after that they are developing X-Men for real according to leak.
Insomniac =Marvel
Rocksteady=DC
That would be cool
thunderbolts kill the avengers is fire.
Marvel Gaming Universe
Really i think its better for the insomniac spiderman to only have it in the universe since it just makes you wonder what were they doing while venom is taking over the planet
I don’t feel Peter was nerfed whatsoever, he saved miles a couple of times & miles saved Peter a few times, that’s just a staple of a dual protagonists game, they’ll often put the heroes in situations where they need to rely on each other here & there.
you’re right. the spider chuds just needed something to complain about
I do think that he wasn't working at full capacity here due to his mental issues. Someone once made the analogy to a star football player that always scores and such. That same player's mom dies right before a game, and then the player just starts messing up during the game. I felt like the same was happening to Peter. He wasn't nerfed, he was struggling mentally, which affected his overall performance. This then caused him to lean more and more into the symbiote, like a strength-enhancing drug.
Other than that, it's as you mentioned.
But I also think that someone like Kraven was just a better tactician, and Spidey has misjudged a punch in the past (He misjudged how hard he should punch Shocker, then got hit after), it's just that this time he was unlucky enough to get stabbed because he genuinely thought Kraven would just be some regular beefy guy. And then the rest of his villains aren't exactly slouches either. I mean, Sandman apparently got a major power boost, according to Miles and Peter.
@ I can agree with that, he might not have been working at full capacity due to the issue of feeling like he failed aunt may, that’s different though then being nerfed, also the football analogy is slightly off cause in most cases when an athlete loses a loved one they play better then ever, like they’re playing that game for who passed away, that’s happened time & time again.
But Miles was saved once, ONCE in the game by Peter, when he almost got eaten by Sandman, but Peter always lose without help and he always got saved by anybody: Miles, Harry, Wraith, Mr. Negative. So why Peter isn't nerfed, if reality says the opposite?
@@acedoomer5244 needing help a few times isn’t the same thing as being nerfed, nerfed means less powerful, this was a duel protagonist game so they put the heroes into more intense situations that needed both heroes… and Peter saved miles on 2 occasions not one.
I liked this game.
I just Platinumized it.
I believe Peter was training Miles/Spin(name is on a poster in Miles's room) to be the ONLY Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man. Like Bruce Wayne and Terry McGinnis. Maybe the next game will be Arkham Spider-Man? Instead of switching between two Batmen or 2 Spider-Men, you can switch between day and knight.
With the Carnage missions, I feel like Hailey would be strong against Kletus and Shriek in the Future(Foundation).
And I can see Mr. Li trying to reform himself and trying to get into Miles's good graces. Even though Miles will NEVER forgive him.
Perhaps Doc Ock will open a dimension that leads to Gotham City.
bro I used to play fighterz with you before Covid, it's awesome to see that your channel grew and the production quality is great here.
Those were some of the best times of my life bro, hope you’re doing well man!
I agree with the nerf theory cuz spider mans powers work better when he’s calm but when he’s still stressed about aunt Mays death, the mortgage, and he is also training a new spider man that’s gonna take a toll on someone
Awesome video🔥thank you for making this. I definitely liked your theory about why Peter was nerfed. Personally besides of what you said I think one reason Peter was nerfed was because of how overjoyed he was because he got Harry back that made him lose focus sometimes, like he was always thinking about his future and the things he will do in Emily May foundation . That just one idea though.
2:53 this sandman is WAYYYY more busted then ANY sandman ever so I disagree with the nerf theory and same goes with Kraven and even Symbiotes
0:56 maybe he didn't think there was anyone there so he took off the mask to probably breathe
He can breathe through the mask
rip to the Goat Tony Toad A Legend ❤🕊️ We Are Venom I love his Voice of Venom and Zoom
I very much got the sense the symbiote was something that bonded to Harry forcefully via Norman and Kurt's experiments to save his life, typically the symbiotes are drawn to powerful negative emotions which is why it bonds so well with the anger of Eddie Brock or bitterness of Peter, etc. When Harry cam directly in contact with Peter the symbiote IMMEDIATELY tried bonding but only got so far as copying the spider logo due to the brief connection, the symbiote caught the scent of Peter's grief and frustration and it wanted to go to him, and then when it bonds with Harry once more all the stewing negative emotions manifest in a primal form due to Harry's pure rage and spite.
Also regarding Carnage, my guess is they use him as a smaller antagonist that starts the first third or so of the game like Mr.Negative, then Peter loses the Anti Venom suit, this is when Norman decides to go Goblin to get the upper hand and team up with Ock to finally kill Spider Man. Or use Ock as a patsy before going Goblin as a last ditch effort.
The Gaming Rift made an entire video explaining very well why Peter was NOT nerfed.
Rest in peace Mr Todd. You will be missed greatly 💔
I wouldn’t be surprised if carnage is the first set piece of the third game (Similar to sandman)
That, or they surprise us with DLC which is unlikely or the main villain for the rumored venom game
@@jeremy144713keep dreaming
@@pathanos2662 to which lol DLC I am dreaming. But there’s been rumors of a venom game for a while so idk.
@@jeremy144713 yeah venom game after Tony Todd died? The game prolly getting scrapped expecially after insomniac getting hacked and ruining all chances of a spiderman 2 dlc we finna wait till 2028 for spiderman 3 so have fun playing the venom game in your dreams cause tony Todd don’t recording anymore voice lines
@@jeremy144713 it's highly unlikely we'll get DLC for Marvel's Spider-Man 2
DLC for Spider-Man 2 was not cancelled because we never had any indication there was planned for this game, especially after going through the leaked material - there was no sign there was new content in development, some of the leaked "roadmap" of three part dlc was fan made and blue beetle stuff was just cut content from the base game, as there is cut content in the first game that still has not re-appeared in the series. Carnage stuff was always more likely saved for the Venom spin-off.
It’s not that Peter was nerfed it’s just that he was dealing with tougher threats and his own personal turmoil holding him back. Which is why miles feels stronger, because he only has to deal with the stronger threats
GP to me respectfully I really dont think he is nerfed, at least the way people think so, peter being thrown around like a ragdoll is completely normal for peter parker, especially with insomniacs version, peter is known for getting beat up and always getting up, which is exactly what insomniac peter does almost everytime, and he has the anti venom suit, far more powerful than he was in sm1. But you can argue peter wasn't mentally in a right place, which is true, but the people saying he was nerfed because they wanted to make Miles look good is kinda ridiculous, there completely ignoring the stiry reasons, amd him having help is perfectly normal for insomniac peter.
Nah he definitely was nerfed
@@StarvingAndHunger so just gonna ignore what I said......ok
I love the theory of Peter's mental state connects to the Symbiote. It's a lore thing that the Symbiote doesn't turn people dark or evil; it helps you embrace and let out deeper, unhealthy emotions. Venom as a character is the embodiment of Peter's toxic emotions, all the mistakes he made when having the Symbiote. Even Insomniac said the Symbiote is an allegory for drug addiction.
Considering that Doctor Octopus and Venom were introduced way later in Peter’s career as Spider-Man, there’s a possibility that the X-Men hasn’t been established yet. Mutants probably do exist, yet Prof. Xavier hasn’t assembled the mansion, school, and the team.
I think it was Otto himself who hired the taskmaster to see if he would join his sinister 6. Since he said he was hired to see if spidey was worthy of joining them, n Otto not only knew who Pete was, but genuinely respected, admired, n cared for him, they were close in their personal lives, not to mention all the bad press spidey usually gets probably mad otto think he could turn peter. I suppose he could've went through aim to do so but I feel it was Doc Oct who was the real one behind the hit.
Ooo love this glad to see some spiderman on the channel
4:24 peter was nerfed but not a lot
The venom of spiderman 2 was basically the knull. Thats why.
In first game he fought sinister six all in once and lost while in comics he won. This means he was nerfed more in sm1 rather than sm2 .
Why spider-man would take off his mask there are probably cams a lot of cams
Right❗️
R.I.P Tony Todd
Such a great actor
Just to add to the 'Nerfed' theory....you think he was holding back the whole time against Venom because Pete knows it's Harry? If Pete's emotions are holding him back , then why wouldn't it apply towards his best friend too?
Also with the symbiote you have to acknowledge that it is a sentient being. It's a parasite that requires symbiosis to thrive and Peter is a perfect physical specimen to be a host. So not only did Peter pass along his bad mental state but also had a messy divorce with the symbiote.
This is just me, but I do not think Peter was nerfed
I think it’s mostly he’s just getting older and more worn out as time goes on. Like when he first got the Symbiote he says ‘I feel energized’ as if he wasn’t before and later on when he takes off the Symbiote Dr Conners ask if he’s feeling any kind of symptoms
Dude he is only 25 he is in his prime old age is not a excuse
@@spideyboy2358Like I said this is just me and my opinion, also he’s got a lot of things on his mind
@@spideyboy2358the average boxing career is 5 years. Peter has been Spider-Man for twice that, old age is definitely playing a factor here.
@@ked49 peter has never ever got out of his prime so early also Pete is a superhuman with a healing factor so you can not compare him to normal people
The reason why I think Peter was nerfed because he’s getting older or just like you say because of aunt may
I think it more of Aunt May because even if Peter is getting older he powers still remains and like Kraven says he often hold back when he fights his enemies to prevent killing them. In the Spider Man 2 movie Peter temporarily loses his powers due to his emotional state as he going through many stress in his life so the same goes for the game as we see that Peter still blames himself for Aunt May’s death
or just bad game design
Don't even need to wacth to know this is gonna be another 🔥 theory vid.
omg finally someone bringing up the Landlord
10:03 you didn't bring it up but in iron Man VR when you're in the loading menu there are times where you can see them say oscorp was made by Norman and Otto which if I'm not wrong insomniacs the only one that had Otto be one of the founding members
I think that somehow Spider-Man discovered his parents were SHIELD agents, not Peter. That would explain why he can't tell because that could expose his identity
From what I heard of what we learn of the symbiote in the comics, you might be right about the Venom theory. I heard this theory before. I didn't read the comics, so I don't know for sure, but another video I watched said that in the comics it's revealed that the Venom symbiote was not always aggressive and only learned that from being bonded with a psychopath on another planet before coming to Earth. Symbiotes are not born evil, they learn based on who they get bonded to and carry those traits forward. It's possible that in the Insomniac universe, the symbiote was fine when it was first bonded with Harry but picked up all these negative traits from Peter. I really like this theory.
I like your last idea too. I also hope they don't keep the Anti-Venom suit. I think it could happen in this Venom game I keep hearing about. My theory has been that Insomniac had two potential scenarios for Carnage: either DLC or a Venom game based on the response to that Venom mission in Spider-man 2. Since people starting begging for a Venom game after playing that, my theory is that they went with that instead of DLC. Peter with the Anti-Venom suit could show up in that and maybe he could use it up to beat Carnage like you said. Or, more likely in my opinion, it'll be to defeat Knull. I predict Carnage will be in the Venom game, but not the main baddie. It'll be Knull. He has already been teased in Spider-man 2 as well since his symbol was on the meteorite.
At any rate, I hope Carnage is not in Spider-man 3. I personally do not want any symbiotes to be apart of that game. I feel it'll distract from the Goblin storyline too much and plus we've had enough symbiotes in Spider-man games to last us for a while. It's better handled in a Venom game I think.
7:44 I disagree since all we see is the mask and web shooters and he takes those with him. The only thing the landlord would see is chips, manuals and even concept drawings for gagets but most people wouldn’t understand it
Also in the middle the game the landlord calls Peter saying that it’s his third and final warning and that eviction proceedings would commence by the end of the week unless full payment was given. A truly final warning call is possible but it’s likely that Peter didn’t answer so it wouldn’t matter either way
The Anti-Venom symbiote will be how Silk acquires her powers and how Peter gets brought back down to base level.
that's kinda how venom works in most continuities it's a combo of peter either being in a bad mental state and lashing out, or the symbiote holding resentment for being discarded people often compare it to a bitter ex.
Theory 2: also peter struggled against otto for the same reason even though otto is weaker and less experienced than the other villains
Heres a fun fact/ theory:
Insom Spideys Comic counterpart is Not canon to The games, but more interestingly Game Spidey is a B varient of Comic Spidey. What a varient is is kind of unclear, but in ATSV, its said that different Universes have different Varients. This is there to probably explain how there are 2 Spider Societies that havent met yet. I havent personally read all the comics myself, but the easiest way to debunk them being the same universe is that Comic Spidey says there are only 6 heroes in his world. The heroes being the Avengers. If we go by traditional avengers line ups, Best case scenario is where he isnt counting black widow and Hawkeye as heroes, which not only makes no sense but there are more than 6 confirmed heroes in Insoms universe
List from the top of my head:
Captain America
Iron Man
Black Panther
Daredevil - Peter knows he exists
Dr strange - Peter MIGHT know him
Wolverine - his suit is shown in leaks
The avengers exist , which could mean
Hulk
Ant man
Hawkeye
Thor
Black widow
The FF is confirmed so
Sue
Johnny
Ben
Reed
Which is already over 6.
The defenders might be around because Jessica is Peters age and this means they've gone through the stuff in the 8 years since. Iron fist is confirmed to be around though
There are three multiverses, none canon to each other.
You have to have a good mental state with the symbio like when you take acid 😂
Bro somehow kept the gory aspect of the arkham videos, and i dig it
8:18 at the start of the game I think peters mask zooms in on an eviction notice left on his floor 👍
Whiiich you included in the video 😭
Rip Tony Todd. An amazing Zoom from the flash (the voice) and an amazing Venom
Peter isn’t “nerfed” In spider-man two, he genuinely isn’t doing as well as spider-man because he’s trying to do to much as spider-man AND Peter. That’s the whole theme of the game and why ain’t may has that speech in the beginning.
Venom, symbiotes in general, are emotional parasites. Harry is a meek person, his emotional world is more contained and not as impassioned as Peter.
Peter has a lot of weight and power, and responsibility to himself, his friends, his city, his community, a lot of grief. He's emotional and dramatic and he spreads himself too thin. He's intellectually engaged, but he is not a zen man, and he is the perfect host for a creature that feeds on swirling negative thoughts. The "Venom" symbiote was always Venom, it just lay dormant on a dormant host until it met a host more suited to its needs.
For me I am under the firm belief that Peter did NOT corrupt the symbiote. Every single time Spider-Man got close to Harry it constantly tried to get onto him until it saw its opportunity when Peter “died”. Venom simply saw Peter as a better host but went back to Harry because Peter rejected him and tried to use Harry to get Peter to join the symbiotes
Get rid of anti venom in a venom game where the remnants of the symbiote finds a random reporter guy you play as (who could be connected to Peter through MJs new job) called Eddie Brock and you team up with anti venom spider man and wraith to beat carnage and the anti venom is destroyed to neutralise carnage but it also kills venom making Eddie brock a normal guy again so he can be used in spider man 3 without having to keep venom
My version of the venom being created by peter theory is that venom did exist within the symbiote, but because Harry was so light-hearted, joyful and excited, it couldn't really 'take over'. that's why when harry is agent venom there's many times when the symbiote tries to latch onto peter. it can sense the power he has, and when it finally attaches to him, then it starts to be able to take over. Then when peter takes it off it still has all the power it got from him, and add that on to an angry, sick, vengeful guy like harry is at the time, you got yourself a venom.
Despite the underwhelming story of Spider-Man 2, Insomniac’s version is still my second favorite version of Spider-Man (the first being Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man. Gotta respect the GOAT).
My theory is that dr octavius hired taskmaster. Think about it he came at roughly the same time that Otto started saying he wanted to improve missing limbs not just replace them. And a very minor detail is that Otto also started planning the prison break and sinister 6 at this time long before the arms messed with his head As seen on the board in the lab. And he knew he’d have to stop Spider-Man but didn’t want to kill Peter (cause he was only pretending to think Peter was SM “suit maker”) So hired taskmaster to figure out how to do that.
i feel like if we go with the idea that Peter uses all of the anti-venom suit to defeat carnage, that would mean it would be the last peter driven story as he would die as a result. according to my understanding of the symbiote, it is what kept Harry Osborne alive from his disease & it is what revived peter after kraven essentially killed him. after peter gave up the symbiote the first time, Connors and him were discussing the effects of him no longer having the suit, which could result in fatality. so that being said, spider-man three would ultimately be peter’s last heroic battle before passing the mantle fully to Miles (& other spider hero’s like Cindy) in his death if the full use of anti venom theory is true.
2:07 he took his mask off because it's a very emotional scene in the game and they wanted to show his face to sell that
Some Landlords have property managers. His former landlord may not have even been in Peter’s apartment. The X on the mansion/hospital could be from the fire cult marking their territory.
I have a theory about the meteorite venom used to infect all of New York:
The rock was intentionally created by knull to stay in contact with the symbiote as it was tasked to take over an entire planet.
so after years of separation from the meteorite, the symbiote started to regain its memories after it touched the rock, which then started to take full control of the host’s body and personality (which is why Peter decided to keep the suit for himself instead of giving it back to Harry like he originally intended) and unlocked its true potential such as being able to create hives, reproduce and grow wings to fly.
But once the meteorite was destroyed, the symbiote loses contact to all of those powers as well as knull himself. Leaving anyone who is the host of symbiote full control of it.
I just assumed Peter trusted dr Conners enough to show his identity he knows he isn't a bad guy or most likely it's because he just got an alien off his body so I think his secret identity for 1 person isn't a big deal to him
21:00 that theory is pretty normal for venom now a days, hell there is a whole story line in the agent venom comics about it
I was thinking of Norman Osborn
The only reason miles got a chance to take down venom was because Peter did the hard work for him.
I was thinking of norman Osborn who hired taskmaster
"oh hey gotham pala-"
"OH NOOOOO"
Of course Connor know his identity lol
God I need the Will o' the Wisp theory to be correct, he's one of my favourite smaller Spider-Man antagonists
1:45 I can see that, maybe a prequel game could explore it one day
love how all the spiderman 2 theory’s can just be explained as the game having bad writing
Personally i believe Taskmaster was trying to recruit Spider-Man into this version of the Thunderbolts
I mean, canonically, the symbiote is influenced by the host as much as the host is by the symbiote. In the comics, the Venom symbiote is only as maniacal as it is because at some point in its past, it bonded with Deadpool, and that broke its mind.
That’s just a post 90’s concept, in the original symbiote saga story the alien couldn’t influence the host’s mind just the body when they were unconscious. The animated Spider-Man series from the 90’s started the whole influence the host mind and the rest was history
I think the symbiote changes depending on what your goal is like Peter he wanted to be efficient so he had quick moves harry (before) was thinking about his friends and change harry (after) wanted control so he was strong and could control people by changing them + he is big to show strength and power
For your last idea it could be the opening act. Open up the game with Peter hunting Carnage, Carnage went on a rampage and killed dozens and need to be stopped, so Peter with help from Miles hunt him down, Carnage doesn’t want to un-bond from Cletus so much that it take all the anti-venom power Peter have to erase the symbiote and a side mission focus on recharge the anti-venom level to regain not all but some of the abilities it granted back, also perfect time to strike when Spider-Man powers are weaken which I fell Osborn would do.
The landlord theory is pretty interesting 🤔
peter getting his ass kicked by kraven sandman scream and venom makes sense since he only went against enhanced humans in the first game and hurt his hand by punching shocker
I think that Peter misjudged the punch, and simply didn't hit Shocker as hard as he should have (remember that afterwards during the fight, Spidey mops the floor with Shocker). The same thing happens with Kraven, as he thought Kraven would just be some big guy. He then got surprised, as he did in the first game and realised he misjudged again, but by that time he was unlucky enough to get stabbed by him.
Plus they’re 4 very very strong foes especially in this game
Vulture, Dock Ock, Electro is not so enhanced to be more durable then normal person. Plus, every villain you mentioned are enhanced people too, so... No, you wrong
@@acedoomer5244 electro has superpowers vulture has a mechanical suit and doc ock is confirmed to be enhanced by his bio
@user-silentnight1234 and what? How electricity can make you more durable? And where's says that Otto become stronger without his metal arms?
Landlord be like: woah Spider-Man was my tenant, too bad no rent
Should sacrifice the AV suit to save Harry, turn him into Agent AV, and then team up to fight Goblin
21:04 isnt that just the typical origin of Venom? He even names himself venom because its like..... the venom..... of a spider
I still believe that conners doesn't know peter is Spider-Man and peter just removing the mask is because his spider sense didn't go off so he knew he was safe.
I'm of two minds when it comes to the Anti-Venom Suit's fate. One is that if that Venom game is real, he will lose it there fighting Carnage, as you predicted. The other thought is that they could bring back suit powers in the next game as they had with Spider-Man PS4 and have the symbiote rage as a suit power. That one is a stretch, I know, but I think that could please both sides of the argument.
I think that iron man vr is talking about osborn being green goblin, and the blue gene is maybe spider island where every new yorker gets spider powers
I've always believed that SP3 will go with the Red Goblin. Perhaps Carnage is set up as the "first"/marketed villain for the game, in a similar fashion to Martin Lee from the first game and Kraven from the second one, and even the final Symbiote to deal with, then after Goblin shows up, Spidey kicks his @$$ and then Goblin decides to bond with Carnage to get stronger, becomes the Red Goblin, and then Peter "purges" Carnage with Anti-Venom, like you said, but remember; Anti-Venom saved Peter's life pretty much, so it could mean than taking it off him could result in him losing his life... so what if Pete dies fighting Red Goblin, similar to how Goblin killed him in the Ultimate Universe and then Miles is the main Spidey in there? What if they follow this route?
9:22 Then u got harry osborn, a year later, making the whole city filled with symbiotes 😂
I really like that "Venom wasn't created until Peter wore it" theory, but also when Peter and Harry fist bumped and the symbiote grabs Pete, if you have no headphones, you can hear Venom say "Peter" through the speaker
Loved the video, btw.
Pls do more vids like this.
R.I.P. to the GOAT and Legend, Tony Todd we all love and miss you so much 🙏❤️🕊️
Wish they progressed Lizard arc, allow already Connors to transform back to human with hand intact - then make him have ability to freely go in/out of Lizard form but slowly his 'Mr Hyde' overtaking both of his bodies, story would be great.
I wanna say I agree Peter is definitely distracted, and nerfed probably a little bit because of the distraction, but I’m not sure
In the show Ultimate Spider-Man in season 4 Anti-Venom was basically created to purge/destroy other Symbiotes and in the show Anti-Venom was absorbing and destroying Carnage Symbiotes in the episode Symbiote Saga part 2 and at the end of the episode Anti-Venom was destroyed when he plunged himself into the heart to save the city and to try and defeat Carnage. So basically what I’m getting is we’ve seen Anti-Venom get destroyed while trying to defeat Carnage in the past so your theory makes sense and could happen in Spider-Man 3.
I have a theory that Jonah is apart of the Flame Cult… hear me out, he criticizes Spider-Man and every other villain or villain group… except the Flame Cult. He actually defended these guys even though they’ve made themselves publicly known as terrorist, by attempting to blow tankers, buildings and brand people. So either he’s apart of the cult, or is being blackmailed by them because he owes them something.
WAIT TONY TODD DIED? HOW DIDN'T I HEAR ABOUT THIS!? Probably because of election but come on! I loved that guy..