You make some valid points. I get the lower power momentum car for development. IRL I went from Porsche Boxster-S to a 2012 MX-5 and now a 2017 MX-5 track car. Best thing I did for my development and such fun handling cars. I am 2 weeks into SIM/iRacing with the advantage being I know driving fundamentals. Been driving the MX-5 Cup Car as that was a natural choice. Practiced on the Vee and FF1600 for a few hours because I am deciding what Formula Car to start with. I suspect it will be the FF1600 since that is more similar to the MX-5 Cup Car than the Vee and if I am going to run two series in a season I think the transfer between cars will be easier. Well, at least that is my thinking right now. Your point about safety in Vee is a great one to think about though!
My question to you, how does the MX5 feel handling wise? As you’ve driven them irl. And is your real life experience, feel and skill translating so far to iRacing? Very curious
@@RedHeadRacing45 My 2017 ND is more twitchy than most cars due to the small wheelbase. But nowhere like in iRacing. But the gearing and speed on tracks I have driven like Laguna Seca are quite similar. Real life experience definitely translates. All the fundamentals - looking ahead, using the entire width of the track including kerbs, threshold braking, trail braking, car control are all there. The hardest thing still is judging the corner entry speed because in SIM, you lose the feeling of speed. It is coming along though, just more practice... If I knew SIM racing was this good, I would have got into it earlier. It certainly scratches the itch between track days and I can drive different cars and tracks which I would not be able to afford in real life.
Dude I agree, I got my first wheel and iracing around 2 weeks ago and found the FF1600 so hard to drive, it would slip and slide around really easily. I decided to race the Vee and Mazda and it's like you said in the video - after a lap heating up the tires, the vee was easy to control and drive so I could focus more on a proper racing line, nailing trail braking, rotation and exit. I raced a few hours per day for a few days and learned a ton, after that I went to do some Mazda again and significantly improved my best times just by learning from the Vee. The Mazda was a different story on rudskogen though, when I kinda learned the track (+3s off the top pace yikes) I would always skip qualifying and start 9-10th, just kept it smooth and would almost always finish top 3 since everyone tries to go fast on that track and spins out on lap 1 lol..
I love the Vee's exactly for the same reasons you bring up. In a few races in the Vee I had so many good and close battles, I really enjoy it a lot. Despite not being a rookie anymore, I still often pick a race in the Vee for the nice experience...
I started in iRacing just this weekend past and had the complete opposite experience. Four awesome races in FF1600 and two Vee nightmares. Summit Point too, just like in the video.
Interesting I’ve noticed recently the Vee crowd has been aggressssssiveeeee. Last few races have been the same in Vee vs 1600. Both can be terrible but 1600 I feel is easier to run away. Vee you can go 3-4 wide😂 different type of intense when the racing is good
Yes best way to learn is in a momentum track car My first track car was a 1987 944S Porsche Not much power but great suspension and brakes I wish rookies would just back off a bit and learn the track and racing line And remember smooth is fast I can't tell how many times I've been hit from behind I'm not the fastest, but my laps are consistent and if another person is faster that me I let them past in a safe section of the track
I hear you! Same for me at first with the braking. I think for 70% of the short rookie races the tires feel like they’re on ice. Usually after lap 5-7 they come in tho and it can be fun. Just so easy to have an incident and crash out. I’d recommend Super Formula Lights. Good participation and still low powered enough to keep under control. Solid racing too.
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VW of that era had a swing axle rear which means you affect the rear camber with your pedals.
You make some valid points. I get the lower power momentum car for development. IRL I went from Porsche Boxster-S to a 2012 MX-5 and now a 2017 MX-5 track car. Best thing I did for my development and such fun handling cars. I am 2 weeks into SIM/iRacing with the advantage being I know driving fundamentals. Been driving the MX-5 Cup Car as that was a natural choice. Practiced on the Vee and FF1600 for a few hours because I am deciding what Formula Car to start with. I suspect it will be the FF1600 since that is more similar to the MX-5 Cup Car than the Vee and if I am going to run two series in a season I think the transfer between cars will be easier. Well, at least that is my thinking right now. Your point about safety in Vee is a great one to think about though!
My question to you, how does the MX5 feel handling wise? As you’ve driven them irl. And is your real life experience, feel and skill translating so far to iRacing? Very curious
@@RedHeadRacing45 My 2017 ND is more twitchy than most cars due to the small wheelbase. But nowhere like in iRacing. But the gearing and speed on tracks I have driven like Laguna Seca are quite similar. Real life experience definitely translates. All the fundamentals - looking ahead, using the entire width of the track including kerbs, threshold braking, trail braking, car control are all there. The hardest thing still is judging the corner entry speed because in SIM, you lose the feeling of speed. It is coming along though, just more practice... If I knew SIM racing was this good, I would have got into it earlier. It certainly scratches the itch between track days and I can drive different cars and tracks which I would not be able to afford in real life.
Dude I agree, I got my first wheel and iracing around 2 weeks ago and found the FF1600 so hard to drive, it would slip and slide around really easily. I decided to race the Vee and Mazda and it's like you said in the video - after a lap heating up the tires, the vee was easy to control and drive so I could focus more on a proper racing line, nailing trail braking, rotation and exit. I raced a few hours per day for a few days and learned a ton, after that I went to do some Mazda again and significantly improved my best times just by learning from the Vee.
The Mazda was a different story on rudskogen though, when I kinda learned the track (+3s off the top pace yikes) I would always skip qualifying and start 9-10th, just kept it smooth and would almost always finish top 3 since everyone tries to go fast on that track and spins out on lap 1 lol..
I love the Vee's exactly for the same reasons you bring up. In a few races in the Vee I had so many good and close battles, I really enjoy it a lot.
Despite not being a rookie anymore, I still often pick a race in the Vee for the nice experience...
Yes usually great racing and the draft is so insane so you can’t run away like you can in 1600. I’m B class. I still race it 😂
I started in iRacing just this weekend past and had the complete opposite experience. Four awesome races in FF1600 and two Vee nightmares. Summit Point too, just like in the video.
me too
Interesting I’ve noticed recently the Vee crowd has been aggressssssiveeeee. Last few races have been the same in Vee vs 1600. Both can be terrible but 1600 I feel is easier to run away. Vee you can go 3-4 wide😂 different type of intense when the racing is good
Yes best way to learn is in a momentum track car My first track car was a 1987 944S Porsche Not much power but great suspension and brakes I wish rookies would just back off a bit and learn the track and racing line And remember smooth is fast
I can't tell how many times I've been hit from behind I'm not the fastest, but my laps are consistent and if another person is faster that me I let them past in a safe section of the track
That’s the best way to do it!! Smooth is fast took me a while to understand. But for my driving style it’s the only way to get the job done
Personally to me the formula ford is easier. I do tend to prefer faster and twitchier cars
i just found f1600 so hard for some reason, basically undrivable for me, and im at c class rn
I hear you! Same for me at first with the braking. I think for 70% of the short rookie races the tires feel like they’re on ice. Usually after lap 5-7 they come in tho and it can be fun. Just so easy to have an incident and crash out.
I’d recommend Super Formula Lights. Good participation and still low powered enough to keep under control. Solid racing too.