I would have preferred casting Johnny Depp in this role so it would be a good comeback for his career and to give him a chance to show us his take on the ruler of latveria
Happy he’s back, but I think I speak for us all, when I say we won’t be able to see him as anyone other then Tony Stark… he must be a variant of iron man that went wrong. It’s a weird thing for marvel to do. I’d wager it’s a money thing it would cost marvel to much to have him return as stark , so they figured out a way to get him to return at half the cost. But it’s still a weird thing having one of the big 4 return as anything other then stark. Him still being A stark variant that became doom is the only
His portrayal of Lewis Strauss in "Oppenheimer" convinced me he could play a great villain. It's a bold move by the MCU to bring him back but it could pay off very well for them.
@@SOSO_CREPITUS Calling someone "lil buddy" when you don't know their age, height or anything just exposes you for being corny and immature. Secondly, RDJ made Millions upon Millions, he was the highest paid actor in the MCU and we all know how he had his acting slump Post Ironman/Tony Stark role, but that changed years ago. I don't know RDJ, I am not a idol worshipper of any kind as I tend to not even like celebs, but your take is idiotic. Why would RDJ need Disney? unless you're making a confirmed factual claim that he does with evidence, how would that even make any sense? They tried to beg him to keep playing Ironman after End Game which he wanted to give Stark a final send off and not play anymore. And factually speaking, unless the celeb is like in major debt or such, none of them NEED Disney, they do it for the fans, legacy and some for greed and ego on the negative side. So what are you even talking about? Folks LOVE RDJ, they did before Disney and even more so now Post Disney.
Personally I always felt Doom should be handled like Darth Vader. Cast a nobody to play the physical performance and get a menacing sounding voice actor. Preferably someone not well known. That way doom is mysterious like vader was. If you get someone famous you loose a lot of that mystery. And never show his face.
Won't work with their predictable format and storyline. They're going to do the usual and tell the story of Doom as the man before Doom so hiding his face can't possibly work. Most of these Hollywood writers are so stupid they insist movie goes don't know anything about comic books. It's always like this with intro movies.
@@supersquirrel7546 I agree that they do follow a cookie cutter formula but the reason for it is due to the fact that most people don't read the comics. It's frustrating because it's not like they would know either way.
@@supersquirrel7546Don't blame the writers. Some writing decisions can be passed down from out of touch executives. If a movie is bad, you can bet there was a lot of executive/producer meddling.
oh idk. maybe not desperation. its curious for sure, but they wanted to do an avengers with doom in it which (in theory) makes a lot of sense. so i can see the train of thought. but RDJ doesnt normally play that kind of role. even so, Doom was stan lees favorite villain. and avengers is one of their biggest cash cows. it makes sense to put them together like bread and butter. and since RDJ is a fan favorite, and veteran movie star, time will tell if it was a right thing to do. even people think that marvel is dying. really all of the avengers banked and 5 times more in places like china and india. lots of people watch it multiple times over seas they love the shows like they are doing crack. i dont know many movies that RDJ plays as a villain. so id watch it out of curiosity alone.
This is a terrible decision imo. Big fan of RDJ but he such an important component of the MCU with iron man that nobody will be able to see him as Dr. Doom. It will be so weird so see Doom and Spider-Man meet and have to pretend they don't actually know each other. Cillian Murphy would have been a much better casting as Dr. Doom.
Couldnt agree more. I was just about to say, i can't see RDJ as anyone else other than Iron Man. The only thing im going to see is Tony Stark is an evil variant.
@@ENDOPLAGUE Yeah like imagine the Avengers fighting RDJ after everything. You can be a great actor, but you can't erase all that. Cillian Murphy would have been such a good Dr. Doom. His piercing blue eyes behind the mask and his calm demeanor. He is very believable as a brilliant science mind and has decades of experience playing villains. MCU is kinda dead though and bringing back RDJ/Russo's feel like a real desperate last-ditch effort to save it.
"...so weird so see Doom and Spider-Man meet and have to pretend they don't actually know each other." What? Don't you people realize this just adds another layer to the fight between Doom and the Avengers (who would almost certainly notice the strong resemblance between Stark and Doom?). They are almost certainly not going to pretend to not notice this, especially in the multi-versal saga the MCU is currently in.
@@LuckySmurf The Russo Brothers are on record stating that Doom will not be a variant of Tony Stark even though historically there have been comics promoting this theory. I wouldn't be surprised if they are trolling and Cillian Murphy is Doom with RDJ coming back as Iron Man.
Just think of how much that Deadpool & Wolverine movie cost them. ;) Deadpool makes constant references to the ''bag of cash'' needed to get Wolverine's character out of retirement.
@@mattrix4200it’s a rated R film . This is the first time they have spent more than 150 mill on a film like that. I think they spent 200 mill on the film
You probably can’t see him as a villain because you only saw him as Iron man. RDJ was originally going to be casted as Doom in the fantastic 4 2005 film. He wanted to play this character for a really long time now, and I believe he will do a great job.
I also think this is a very weird decision, but as for whether RDJ can play the villain... have you seen Oppenheimer? His performance as Strauss was excellent, showing a level of spite, bitterness and smart-but-not-quite-genius-and-boy-does-he-resent-it-ness that was very impressive. I think he probably could do a very good Doom... if he wasn't already known and revered for being Iron Man.
The crowd at Comicon was excited to see RDJ, they didn't have time to put together how odd of a choice this was. I would be screaming my head off too, but on the drive home, I'd be talking about how weird this choice was and wonder how it was all going to pan out.
@aaronlegg911cynical people who never create anything usually operate with that mindset. Weirdly, RDJ, who is wildly successful, does not subscribe to that way of thinking. How’s it working out for you?
what if the story they want requires it to be a tony stark variant and a dr doom variant ? people assuming this is the Dr Doom are hilarious ... its the multiverse and what better way to show the potential of the multiverse with the drama of variants of both characters intersecting like that.
Not true. It’s a multiverse. So it’s fighting in the mcu make doom a stark variant. One was rich and brilliant and hero the other will be diabolical brilliant and evil.
Really doesn't look good for the future of MCU. The only way they are getting people to come watch their movies is by bringing popular past stars. It's not sustainable and shows they have no real plans to keep it going. I mean, sure I love Hugh Jackman's Wolverine, Tobey Maguire's Spiderman, and RDJ but how much longer can they act in a superhero(/villain) role? Who will keep people coming to the movies after they retire from the superhero genre for good?
@@hitmanl520 I mean the other problem with the avengers is there isn't another hero actually watch to care about as all the main Avengers are gone. They'll just add Wolverine and Deadpool to literally carry the Avengers. That's how ridiculous it's going to be. And Downey isn't adding jack
@@catdudeokbye3444 doubt it. Watch. They’re gonna milk it into 3 movies. He finally dawns the mask at the end, THEN we gotta wait four more years for the next installment.
No matter what you do in life, you will never be able to please everyone. The best you can do is tell a creative story, and hopefully, most people will like it.
Desperate was them trying to make every stupid movie, D+ show, and holiday special that appealed to every special interest group they didn't get enough money from in the past... and who cares if they ruined and trashed all the story canon and plot inconsistencies? And hey with a special effects budget of a high-school lunch menu for some of these shows, how could they go wrong? Thankfully audiences were willing to slap them in the face with low box office results and tons of online complaints to turn them away from this nonsense in the future... I can't tell you how funny and needed it was to have Deadpool making CONSTANT reference to how crappy Disney has become in the past few years. :)
The fact he died so epically and is a villain in another reality could play out perfectly with Doom’s promises for a safe world, despite it being under his command. I see a suit of armor around the globe…
@@TiberiusEmpire The only way to fix the MCU is they need to stop with their agendas: Women empowerment and diversities. That's what killing the MCU. Same agendas that ruined the Star Wars franchise.
This should have been kept a secret, imagine the audience reaction to Doom having a standoff with the Avengers, one of the heroes does something and ends up taking off Dooms mask and everyone sees Tony's face and are like "wtf?"
@@yiarkungfu cuz disney is a company full of 💩, everything they touch everything they ruin, thank God Deadpool & Wolverine was more a work between 20th Century Fox Studios & Marvel Studios.
Two MCU scenes were crossing my mind when I heard the news. LOKI saying “How desperate are you yadayada~~~~ “ and Thanos saying “You couldn’t live with your own failure yadayada~~~”. This will either bring MCU back to life or kill it for good… hope they somehow make it work..
Mm does it really matter? It's gonna make a boatload of money with or without you, I respect your opinion but at the end of the day it's fiction I'm down idgaf
@@Youforiafalls That's where you're wrong. If theres others that really don't like this casting like this guy, and there are, then that boatloads of money is going to dwindle rather quickly. This is a bad casting move especially when it comes to Dr. DOOM.
@@Youforiafalls A billion? The budget of Infinity War/Endgame was like $800 million. Considering these new Avengers will have a similar budget given all the people they need; it is not unbelievable to think these films will also have a high budget. Also keep in mind box office takes a massive cut of revenue. If it takes a single billion, it will likely lose money. These films need several billion to break even after marketing, box office cut, payouts, etc. The hype is also nowhere near the Infinity War/Endgame. That story took almost a decade to build. This film is out in 2 years.
@@rebeccalewis938 it'll make money with or without you I said it once and I'll say it again (: it'll make the money it needs its marvel and Disney y'all sound miserable I'll yave fun dw grinches
I didn't see anyone complain about Benedict Cumberbatch played both Doctor Strange and Dormammu in the original film, or Ryan Reynolds played both Deadpool and Juggernaut in Deadpool 2. I know casting RDJ to play another MCU character is a poor desperate move. If they didn't do this Tony Stark variant, then it's ok.
I mean Hugh died peacefully as Wolverine still came back as another version of Wolverine Chris retired and passed the shield peacefully yet came back as totally different Human Torch Robert sacrificed himself for the whole universe, broke everyone’s heart, now came back as Victor von Doom If this continues, whenever a character dies, we will no longer care. Hence will kill the franchise in a long run
Tbf, with Chris Evans, he was in DP+W purely as a joke that spouted some exposition. He didn't really come back to play a new character, he really came back just to trick the audience, talk about the villain, and then die gruesomely, so I think he had more of a cameo than an actual return.
Yeah but Hugh is playing a variant of the SAME character. So that’s not a visual distraction. Chris Evans could be Captain America with ease because no one cared for The Fantastic Four films. His Johnny Storm wasn’t a standout role. Sadly, the whole project was forgettable. I had hope for this new cast; until this CORNY reveal.
this is absolutely terrible and a waste of Dr. Doom. I hate when they act like there’s no other actors out there. if they wanted to bring him back as a villain, they should’ve brought him back as superior Iron Man, simple and straight. this is how you kill Marvel stupid ass decisions like this again. I guess Tom Holland will come back as Loki necks, right? Jesus Christ. This is not that hard yet they keep screwing it up over and over again. Super disappointing after the success of Deadpool. Wanna know why Deadpool did well because they stuck to the majority of the actual source material. Here we are again. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. Marvel insane. Stop messing around too much. When you mess with things too much sometimes the fans will mess back.
I will revisit this comment once full trailer releases and again after you've seen the movie to see if your opinion has changed. I've screen shotted and saved.
@@lillpoetboy I will be here standing by waiting. Absolutely. I standby every word that I said. it’s not that Robert Downey Jr. is in a fantastic actor obviously. Dr. doom is such a fantastic character that written the right way and portrayed by the correct actor could be dominating. I almost feel like this is a greedy move on Robert Downey Jr... yeah I Said It. he was better off coming back like I said as superior Iron Man if he wanted to portray a villainess side. That would’ve been extremely loved as well. we are recycling the same actors to play multiple different rules of completely different characters. That is a tragedy.. like I said I’ll be standing by for the reply years From now. see you in the future.
@@Loki6781 Exactly, now everyone is saying read the comics ok sure but we want a totally new actor, Doom is a complex character and there are really good actors who could play him.... idk i hope there is a huge "wtf" plot twist or some shit.
it’s not a surprised considering they brought back the Emperor to try to salvage the sequel trilogy. But it’s a slap in the face in not broadening the character more and allowing another actor to become a staple in the MCU
@@ForiamStudiosBringing back the emperor was the final nail in the coffin for a lot of people if somehow the previous movies haven't done that for them.
The fact that so many people are expecting this to be so terrible is ironically the most hopeful thing about it. He was an underdog when cast as Ironman as well, and expectations were very low.
There was already a What If for Tony and Victor switching bodies, Tony winning as Doom and forsaking his old body to become Doom because Victor dragged his name through the mud.
It's like making Chris Hemsworth magneto... I cant look past him being thor in a costume in that universe. If he's an alternative Tony who went doom instead of ironman, maybe it could work for me.
This video said what I was thinking it's not going to be a true Victor Von doom it's just going to be a Tony Stark from a different university turned into Doctor doom so don't get too excited people's Disney is going to mess up this iconic villain
I’m not familiar with that one, but sounds intriguing. How better to take over the Multiverse than assume the physical appearance of one of its best known saviors. Wherever they go with this I am looking forward to seeing it all play out.
It doesn't really matter. Doom literally never takes off his mask and when he does, you won't be able to tell the difference between his face and a pepperoni pizza.
@@RyzenX12but his voice is so recognizable that every time he speaks it will sound like iron man is wearing dooms suit. His voice is just too iconic. It's really bad casting.
Robert Downey Jr. Is Playing Victor Von Doom after he played Iron Man It's Like me voicing Early Cuyler In Squidbillies and playing Gary Bunda In Your Pretty Face Is Going To Hell years later Bloody crazy man
@@Jamal-bl7yh Benedict Cumberbatch not only played Doctor Strange in the first film, he also played a top villain, Dormammu. Ryan Reynolds not only played Deadpool in part 2, he also played a top villain, Juggernaut.
Apart from Sherlock and Tropic Thunder, I haven't really heard him speak all that differently to his normal voice. No matter the pitch or tone he uses, I can still hear it's him. Similar intense stare throughout his roles also. This is all perfectly fine as many actors retain a bit of themselves in a role. He'll really need to consider changing everything the ground up, otherwise we'll be thinking that's Tony Stark as Dr Doom.
RDJ has been through it in the past. I am so glad to see him moving forward with all of his positivity. I also think he will do an amazing job as Doom.🍻✌
They can still salvage it - if he's a stark variant gone bad when he's defeated the real Dr. Doom appears and gives the "A lesser existence such as yours Stark is unfit to bear the name of DOOM..." or something like that...but they won't so it's screwed.
See, after watching DP&W I came to the conclusion that the movie was establishing a permanent variant universe (that's DP's) and the other characters would also be getting "permanent" variant Marvel Max universes. Or as I said leaving the theater DP's universe is the Rated R universe.
Guys doom by rdj will be awesome with his face messed up and using his skills to use different voices and accents we're going to get something awesome if he puts into Doctor Doom as much love as he did Iron Man were in for a real treat
@@willieg7895 - If Robert Downey Jr isn't wearing prosthetics that makes his face unrecognizable or he's not wearing the mask the entire movie then they definitely should have looked for a different actor because we shouldn't see his face or witness characters in the universe question if it's Tony Stark.
So how do they explain why Dr Death looks exactly like Tony Stark? Also proves that MCU is nothing without Robert Downey Jr and they can't have a successful film without him (which is why he is shoehorned into Spiderman and the Edward Norton Hulk film without context).
Funny thing is I don't miss Tony Stark at all. I just miss the consistency in writing quality. I love the direction the franchise is going but they have made some really bad choices. Getting Taiki Waititi to direct Thor 3 was definitely one of them. Making the Marvels for an audience who don't watch superhero movies just because people tried to say it was sexist not to... also a bad choice. But other than that, I've been really enjoying the new MCU. More wins than losses I think.
people are limited to the story arcs, and cannot fathom RDJ's capacity for acting. He would be such a terrifying villain that it would make the viewers hair on their arms and the back of their neck stands up. I am excited, and I cannot wait.
A lot of people complaining on the casting as if rdj only acted in ironman character in his whole acting career. Rdj is a versatile actor given a good plot and script he definitely can pull it off. Give it a chance first people!
@@miltonbailey4968 but he his perfect for the role, no matter the level of genius it’s just a genre. We are used to seeing him genius roles Look forward to it to see how he puts his twist and spin on it.
@TheGrumpyGriffin man I respectfully disagree. Maybe if he wouldn't have played Iron Man first, I would be more open to it. But Dr. Doom is that dude like Vader of Marvel. The man use science and magic!!! I feel like you need someone that can bring a different level to the role then i feel RDJ can give!!
@@miltonbailey4968 ok, but in my eyes as mentioned in this video it’s almost a bookend. No matter what us long time marvel fans agree that there is a better choice , it’s Marvel pronounced $$$ . I would love to have a different Dr. Doom. But it’s capitalism to say the least. But as far as his comments RDJs let him be known for more than one character. But your opinion is valid.
2:57 I love this! The role swapping is perfect!!! Next year Hiddleston’s Loki will return to take over Hall H once again!!! It will the be announced that he and the T.V.A. will bring together heroes from across the Multiverse to battle against RDJ’s Doom and his legion of Doombots!
Just imagine if Tony Stark never had his hero moment in the cave in the first Iron Man. So instead of him building the first Iron Man suit and starting his hero journey he broke bad instead. The smartest person in the MCU and he goes the villain route. I think this has huge potential if they do it right. Plus just imagine Peter Looking at Tony but it's not Tony and he wants to destroy everything. The possibilities are endless if you think about it.
LOL at people assuming this is "THE DR DOOM" Its the multiverse , its a Doom variant. Von Doom proper will still be able to pop up in fantastic 4 movies.
I don't don't he will be the same charismatic character as Tony was. I think RDJ picked Dr Doom to be able to do the opposite. To broaden his acting range.
Doom in the comics never even shows his face because of the scares on his face, that’s why he wears his mask and NEVER takes it off. He will most likely not be tied to tony stark.
Great move. To me RDJ is the backbone of the Avenger world and movies. He is an awesome actor and it would not be the same without him. It will be interesting to see him as a bad guy. He will NAIL the role for sure.
Well, does go with the Iron man song. "Heavy boots of lead, fills his victims full of dread", "Kills the people he once saved". Now, wether or not he gets "turned to steel in the great magnetic field" is to be seen.
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Do you think it is a good call for them bring RDJ back?
nonsense
I would have preferred casting Johnny Depp in this role so it would be a good comeback for his career and to give him a chance to show us his take on the ruler of latveria
nahh i get the multiverse thing but he already played his role as iron man already
Happy he’s back, but I think I speak for us all, when I say we won’t be able to see him as anyone other then Tony Stark… he must be a variant of iron man that went wrong. It’s a weird thing for marvel to do. I’d wager it’s a money thing it would cost marvel to much to have him return as stark , so they figured out a way to get him to return at half the cost. But it’s still a weird thing having one of the big 4 return as anything other then stark. Him still being A stark variant that became doom is the only
His portrayal of Lewis Strauss in "Oppenheimer" convinced me he could play a great villain. It's a bold move by the MCU to bring him back but it could pay off very well for them.
RDJ to Disney:
"You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me"
Perfect
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I think it’s the other way around lil buddy.
@@SOSO_CREPITUS Calling someone "lil buddy" when you don't know their age, height or anything just exposes you for being corny and immature. Secondly, RDJ made Millions upon Millions, he was the highest paid actor in the MCU and we all know how he had his acting slump Post Ironman/Tony Stark role, but that changed years ago. I don't know RDJ, I am not a idol worshipper of any kind as I tend to not even like celebs, but your take is idiotic. Why would RDJ need Disney? unless you're making a confirmed factual claim that he does with evidence, how would that even make any sense? They tried to beg him to keep playing Ironman after End Game which he wanted to give Stark a final send off and not play anymore. And factually speaking, unless the celeb is like in major debt or such, none of them NEED Disney, they do it for the fans, legacy and some for greed and ego on the negative side. So what are you even talking about? Folks LOVE RDJ, they did before Disney and even more so now Post Disney.
@@drjonesey5I'm gonna need to see your yapping licence, pal
Personally I always felt Doom should be handled like Darth Vader. Cast a nobody to play the physical performance and get a menacing sounding voice actor. Preferably someone not well known. That way doom is mysterious like vader was. If you get someone famous you loose a lot of that mystery. And never show his face.
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Brilliant idea
Won't work with their predictable format and storyline. They're going to do the usual and tell the story of Doom as the man before Doom so hiding his face can't possibly work.
Most of these Hollywood writers are so stupid they insist movie goes don't know anything about comic books. It's always like this with intro movies.
@@supersquirrel7546
I agree that they do follow a cookie cutter formula but the reason for it is due to the fact that most people don't read the comics. It's frustrating because it's not like they would know either way.
@@supersquirrel7546Don't blame the writers. Some writing decisions can be passed down from out of touch executives. If a movie is bad, you can bet there was a lot of executive/producer meddling.
this reeks of desperation. if the writing is still bad, rdj can't save this.
Exactly. The gasping breath of a dying franchise.
You know they could just try, I don't know, good writing again.
I was just going to say that. RDJ can't save Marvel.
@@TavaraTheLaughingLionthey are doing good with deadpool and wolverine. Lets stop making it a trend to hate the mcu.
oh idk. maybe not desperation. its curious for sure, but they wanted to do an avengers with doom in it which (in theory) makes a lot of sense. so i can see the train of thought. but RDJ doesnt normally play that kind of role. even so, Doom was stan lees favorite villain. and avengers is one of their biggest cash cows. it makes sense to put them together like bread and butter. and since RDJ is a fan favorite, and veteran movie star, time will tell if it was a right thing to do. even people think that marvel is dying. really all of the avengers banked and 5 times more in places like china and india. lots of people watch it multiple times over seas they love the shows like they are doing crack. i dont know many movies that RDJ plays as a villain. so id watch it out of curiosity alone.
i totally agree, it wont
Like Deadpool said, "Disney will work you till you're 90"😅
Til your 90!
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Robert died a hero AND lived long enough to become the villain.
RDJ lives long enough to spend all his money that he has to comeback to MCU.
Wow.. how original
So did Harrison Ford. 😉
Chuck Norris didn't even do that
did you type that out or just copy and paste it
This is a terrible decision imo. Big fan of RDJ but he such an important component of the MCU with iron man that nobody will be able to see him as Dr. Doom. It will be so weird so see Doom and Spider-Man meet and have to pretend they don't actually know each other. Cillian Murphy would have been a much better casting as Dr. Doom.
Couldnt agree more. I was just about to say, i can't see RDJ as anyone else other than Iron Man. The only thing im going to see is Tony Stark is an evil variant.
@@ENDOPLAGUE Yeah like imagine the Avengers fighting RDJ after everything. You can be a great actor, but you can't erase all that. Cillian Murphy would have been such a good Dr. Doom. His piercing blue eyes behind the mask and his calm demeanor. He is very believable as a brilliant science mind and has decades of experience playing villains. MCU is kinda dead though and bringing back RDJ/Russo's feel like a real desperate last-ditch effort to save it.
"...so weird so see Doom and Spider-Man meet and have to pretend they don't actually know each other."
What? Don't you people realize this just adds another layer to the fight between Doom and the Avengers (who would almost certainly notice the strong resemblance between Stark and Doom?).
They are almost certainly not going to pretend to not notice this, especially in the multi-versal saga the MCU is currently in.
@@LuckySmurf The Russo Brothers are on record stating that Doom will not be a variant of Tony Stark even though historically there have been comics promoting this theory. I wouldn't be surprised if they are trolling and Cillian Murphy is Doom with RDJ coming back as Iron Man.
@@ENDOPLAGUEI am all for an evil Iron Man variant hiding behind a mask. Tony Stark is on a thin line between hero and villain in the MCU as it is.
Welp, the budget for Doomsday will be like 500 million with RDJ's salary being 250 MILL at this point!!!.....
Just think of how much that Deadpool & Wolverine movie cost them. ;) Deadpool makes constant references to the ''bag of cash'' needed to get Wolverine's character out of retirement.
He actually prefers a percentage cut.
Exactly so stupid casting
@@mattrix4200it’s a rated R film . This is the first time they have spent more than 150 mill on a film like that. I think they spent 200 mill on the film
This is a stupid decision. I just can't see him as the villian
You probably can’t see him as a villain because you only saw him as Iron man. RDJ was originally going to be casted as Doom in the fantastic 4 2005 film. He wanted to play this character for a really long time now, and I believe he will do a great job.
I also think this is a very weird decision, but as for whether RDJ can play the villain... have you seen Oppenheimer?
His performance as Strauss was excellent, showing a level of spite, bitterness and smart-but-not-quite-genius-and-boy-does-he-resent-it-ness that was very impressive. I think he probably could do a very good Doom... if he wasn't already known and revered for being Iron Man.
You people have only seen him as iron man 😂
The crowd at Comicon was excited to see RDJ, they didn't have time to put together how odd of a choice this was. I would be screaming my head off too, but on the drive home, I'd be talking about how weird this choice was and wonder how it was all going to pan out.
right... the crowd reaction had nothing to do with him playing doom
Good. You’re thinking and wondering about 2 movies that are coming out in 2 and 3 years. It worked.
@aaronlegg911cynical people who never create anything usually operate with that mindset. Weirdly, RDJ, who is wildly successful, does not subscribe to that way of thinking. How’s it working out for you?
@@DABA2024 stfu marvel fan boi. I see you in all comments. Get a life and a job.
Hows Robert azzhole taste?@@DABA2024 hmmmm..?Get your rocks off to that? pfffftttt.....
"a cheap move" is a good way to put it. There are enough capable & known actors out there.
Yep, and Marvel has cast a lot of them as BORING villains that no one cares about. DC too.
@@DABA2024 That was then and this is now.
Lol I wouldn't say cheap move you know RDJ got the duffle bag 💰 lol
what if the story they want requires it to be a tony stark variant and a dr doom variant ? people assuming this is the Dr Doom are hilarious ... its the multiverse and what better way to show the potential of the multiverse with the drama of variants of both characters intersecting like that.
Its the writing bro and Cillian once said if writing is good then he'll play dr doom
I love RDJ, and Dr Doom but, I HATE this casting
You can almost taste the desperation...
He's a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude
You're right, maybe is Kirk Lazarus, portraying Robert Downey Jr. Who's going to portray Victor Von Doom
Lol. That's exactly what I thought when I first saw it.
W reference 😂
The dudes are emerging!
@@sanjisay8232 tropic thunder lol
Can't agree more that RBJ should NOT be Doom. Doom is easily one of the most important Marvel characters.
Robert Bowney Jr
Disney got desperate and there was no other path left to take except to give RDJ the bag. 💰
I think I this is the first creative Idea in the MCU in a long time. I realy wanna see him as the biggest villain in the MCU
Not true. It’s a multiverse. So it’s fighting in the mcu make doom a stark variant. One was rich and brilliant and hero the other will be diabolical brilliant and evil.
@@mr.m2695no. They said that rdj will be playing g victor Von doom. Not a tony variant
if this was true they'd have brought him back as Iron man. They brought Evans back in Deadpool and Wolverine. was that desperate?
Really doesn't look good for the future of MCU. The only way they are getting people to come watch their movies is by bringing popular past stars. It's not sustainable and shows they have no real plans to keep it going. I mean, sure I love Hugh Jackman's Wolverine, Tobey Maguire's Spiderman, and RDJ but how much longer can they act in a superhero(/villain) role?
Who will keep people coming to the movies after they retire from the superhero genre for good?
„…Not a Great Plan“
I see what you did there
This is going to flop so hard. What an idiotic move honestly
It’s desperation, but ill still watch it
@@hitmanl520 I mean the other problem with the avengers is there isn't another hero actually watch to care about as all the main Avengers are gone. They'll just add Wolverine and Deadpool to literally carry the Avengers. That's how ridiculous it's going to be. And Downey isn't adding jack
@@hitmanl520 And you are the reason why marvel studio does crap like this.
@@jaylu7021 shut up and be entertained. They’re super hero movies.
I hope RDJ knows that Doctor Doom never takes off that mask.😂
that will not happen otherwise anyone can play Dr Doom .He is definitely not from sacred timeline .That's for sure .Marvel hides a lot.
That’s gonna be so annoying.
It’s gonna be another Halo TV Series
I hope the writers and suits know that too.
@@catdudeokbye3444 doubt it. Watch. They’re gonna milk it into 3 movies. He finally dawns the mask at the end, THEN we gotta wait four more years for the next installment.
Studio probably realized the franchise has gone down hill since Robert left
Lol
What did they think was gonna happen? I wasn't the least bit surprised.
This isn't the way to bring him back straight money grab
But not because he left......too much DEI and girlbossing.....
So…bringing him back was meant to save it? lmao
No matter what you do in life, you will never be able to please everyone. The best you can do is tell a creative story,
and hopefully, most people will like it.
Disney so desperate
God you people are actually morons.
Desperate was them trying to make every stupid movie, D+ show, and holiday special that appealed to every special interest group they didn't get enough money from in the past... and who cares if they ruined and trashed all the story canon and plot inconsistencies? And hey with a special effects budget of a high-school lunch menu for some of these shows, how could they go wrong? Thankfully audiences were willing to slap them in the face with low box office results and tons of online complaints to turn them away from this nonsense in the future... I can't tell you how funny and needed it was to have Deadpool making CONSTANT reference to how crappy Disney has become in the past few years. :)
The fact he died so epically and is a villain in another reality could play out perfectly with Doom’s promises for a safe world, despite it being under his command. I see a suit of armor around the globe…
Is Disney getting too desperate, they have to call RDJ back to fix their Marvel franchise?
@@TiberiusEmpire The only way to fix the MCU is they need to stop with their agendas: Women empowerment and diversities. That's what killing the MCU. Same agendas that ruined the Star Wars franchise.
@@nwo2coolLOL someone wants it to be all men in spandex with visible abs again 😂😂
@@DABA2024 Superhero characters are meant for Men.Few female characters are exception. People like strong characters not agenda driven .
@nwo2cool or disney could shelf the MCU for abit..
Fix?
This should have been kept a secret, imagine the audience reaction to Doom having a standoff with the Avengers, one of the heroes does something and ends up taking off Dooms mask and everyone sees Tony's face and are like "wtf?"
I like to see someone else play Dr Doom
Anyone else. To their credit they kept Doom a man.
@@Major73ProblemRent-free in your head
There are a lot of actors who can play doom and get off RDJ jock
@@ChellBaker Yeah they could've cast someone like Cillian Murphy, or Leonardo Dicaprio to play the Doom character.
@@nwo2cool Cillian Murphy was a good choice
Someone, Once Famous, Once said
NOT A
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On a weekend when Deadpool and Wolverine did their best to save the MCU , Disney does this? Why?
@@yiarkungfu cuz disney is a company full of 💩, everything they touch everything they ruin, thank God Deadpool & Wolverine was more a work between 20th Century Fox Studios & Marvel Studios.
Because one movie cant save the entire Mcu alone?
@@Vilgax00 the mcu is doomed!!! Literally.
@@christopherluisdelassalasm8812 Very funny.
Say hello to the msheu
Two MCU scenes were crossing my mind when I heard the news. LOKI saying “How desperate are you yadayada~~~~ “ and Thanos saying “You couldn’t live with your own failure yadayada~~~”. This will either bring MCU back to life or kill it for good… hope they somehow make it work..
Count me as one of those who are not into this casting.
Mm does it really matter? It's gonna make a boatload of money with or without you, I respect your opinion but at the end of the day it's fiction I'm down idgaf
@@Youforiafalls That's where you're wrong. If theres others that really don't like this casting like this guy, and there are, then that boatloads of money is going to dwindle rather quickly.
This is a bad casting move especially when it comes to Dr. DOOM.
@@ENDOPLAGUE I'll see you when this film makes a billion, no one likes everything js like infinity war and endgame your opinion doesn't matter
@@Youforiafalls A billion? The budget of Infinity War/Endgame was like $800 million. Considering these new Avengers will have a similar budget given all the people they need; it is not unbelievable to think these films will also have a high budget. Also keep in mind box office takes a massive cut of revenue. If it takes a single billion, it will likely lose money. These films need several billion to break even after marketing, box office cut, payouts, etc. The hype is also nowhere near the Infinity War/Endgame. That story took almost a decade to build. This film is out in 2 years.
@@rebeccalewis938 it'll make money with or without you I said it once and I'll say it again (: it'll make the money it needs its marvel and Disney y'all sound miserable I'll yave fun dw grinches
What if it's another "Ben Kingsley" Mandarin situation?
Marvel should have not done this
I didn't see anyone complain about Benedict Cumberbatch played both Doctor Strange and Dormammu in the original film, or Ryan Reynolds played both Deadpool and Juggernaut in Deadpool 2. I know casting RDJ to play another MCU character is a poor desperate move. If they didn't do this Tony Stark variant, then it's ok.
Nope. I still can’t believe it
@@nwo2coolRyan Reynolds’s played juggernaut
@@BoosieBraun-q5s Yes he did. He voiced the character, but the character was designed through CGI.
Yes they should have
One word: desperation
I mean Hugh died peacefully as Wolverine still came back as another version of Wolverine
Chris retired and passed the shield peacefully yet came back as totally different Human Torch
Robert sacrificed himself for the whole universe, broke everyone’s heart, now came back as Victor von Doom
If this continues, whenever a character dies, we will no longer care. Hence will kill the franchise in a long run
You just described two characters who didn’t come back 😂
Tbf, with Chris Evans, he was in DP+W purely as a joke that spouted some exposition. He didn't really come back to play a new character, he really came back just to trick the audience, talk about the villain, and then die gruesomely, so I think he had more of a cameo than an actual return.
Yeah but Hugh is playing a variant of the SAME character. So that’s not a visual distraction.
Chris Evans could be Captain America with ease because no one cared for The Fantastic Four films. His Johnny Storm wasn’t a standout role. Sadly, the whole project was forgettable.
I had hope for this new cast; until this CORNY reveal.
0:28 HE EVEN STRUCK THE SAME POSE HE DID WHEN UNVEILING THE JERICHO MISSILE 🤯🤯🤯
this is absolutely terrible and a waste of Dr. Doom. I hate when they act like there’s no other actors out there. if they wanted to bring him back as a villain, they should’ve brought him back as superior Iron Man, simple and straight. this is how you kill Marvel stupid ass decisions like this again. I guess Tom Holland will come back as Loki necks, right? Jesus Christ. This is not that hard yet they keep screwing it up over and over again. Super disappointing after the success of Deadpool. Wanna know why Deadpool did well because they stuck to the majority of the actual source material. Here we are again. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. Marvel insane. Stop messing around too much. When you mess with things too much sometimes the fans will mess back.
I will revisit this comment once full trailer releases and again after you've seen the movie to see if your opinion has changed. I've screen shotted and saved.
@@lillpoetboy I will be here standing by waiting. Absolutely. I standby every word that I said. it’s not that Robert Downey Jr. is in a fantastic actor obviously. Dr. doom is such a fantastic character that written the right way and portrayed by the correct actor could be dominating. I almost feel like this is a greedy move on Robert Downey Jr... yeah I Said It. he was better off coming back like I said as superior Iron Man if he wanted to portray a villainess side. That would’ve been extremely loved as well. we are recycling the same actors to play multiple different rules of completely different characters. That is a tragedy.. like I said I’ll be standing by for the reply years From now. see you in the future.
@@Loki6781 Exactly, now everyone is saying read the comics ok sure but we want a totally new actor, Doom is a complex character and there are really good actors who could play him.... idk i hope there is a huge "wtf" plot twist or some shit.
it’s not a surprised considering they brought back the Emperor to try to salvage the sequel trilogy.
But it’s a slap in the face in not broadening the character more and allowing another actor to become a staple in the MCU
@@ForiamStudiosBringing back the emperor was the final nail in the coffin for a lot of people if somehow the previous movies haven't done that for them.
RDJ to woke Disney:
"You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me"
The fact that so many people are expecting this to be so terrible is ironically the most hopeful thing about it.
He was an underdog when cast as Ironman as well, and expectations were very low.
What in the voodoo nonsense 😅
Meds buddy
Bring back the dude from the first Marvel FF.
RDJ going to get the fattest paycheck of his life.
I 100% agree Cillian Murphy would of been a way better pick
I am more confused how it will fit in lore
Doom never takes off the mask. So I don't think he is Tony at all. He gets to play a completely new character while returning to the MCU.
You have to watch DP3 to understand.
@@IIONNICC Im going monday, no worries.
There was already a What If for Tony and Victor switching bodies, Tony winning as Doom and forsaking his old body to become Doom because Victor dragged his name through the mud.
@@PixelleHearts ......what??!
It's like making Chris Hemsworth magneto... I cant look past him being thor in a costume in that universe. If he's an alternative Tony who went doom instead of ironman, maybe it could work for me.
So Dr. Dolittle snapped his fingers and became Dr. Doom!
This video said what I was thinking it's not going to be a true Victor Von doom it's just going to be a Tony Stark from a different university turned into Doctor doom so don't get too excited people's Disney is going to mess up this iconic villain
It's the Multiverse What-if story of when Dr.Doom swapped minds with Tony to take over his fathers company in the first step to world domination.
I’m not familiar with that one, but sounds intriguing. How better to take over the Multiverse than assume the physical appearance of one of its best known saviors.
Wherever they go with this I am looking forward to seeing it all play out.
I'm use to Seeing RDJ as Iron-man i can't really see him as Doom/Dr. Doom
You either say an original message or live long enough to know when to shut up
It has to be some kind of multiverse Doom variant who just happens to look like Tony Stark.
It shows how desperate Disney is to get some more money out of the Marvel acquisition. It’s the wrong casting.
It doesn't really matter. Doom literally never takes off his mask and when he does, you won't be able to tell the difference between his face and a pepperoni pizza.
@@RyzenX12 100 percent
@@RyzenX12but his voice is so recognizable that every time he speaks it will sound like iron man is wearing dooms suit. His voice is just too iconic. It's really bad casting.
@@Bradley_Lute Editing exists, there gonna change up is voice to a more robotic tone to resemble what he would of sounded like in the comics
@@RyzenX12 I how they change it so it is unnoticeable
Desperate move af 😂😂😂😂
I hope this is a publicity stunt. I just don’t see rdj as doom
I'm here for it! I can't wait!
Everyone is saying the same thing: All kinds of differing opinions. Yeah.
The best voice on loopers..always love to listen to u whoever u are
Robert Downey Jr. Is Playing Victor Von Doom after he played Iron Man It's Like me voicing Early Cuyler In Squidbillies and playing Gary Bunda In Your Pretty Face Is Going To Hell years later Bloody crazy man
That Early Cuyler refrence hit hard. 😢
@@Jamal-bl7yh Benedict Cumberbatch not only played Doctor Strange in the first film, he also played a top villain, Dormammu. Ryan Reynolds not only played Deadpool in part 2, he also played a top villain, Juggernaut.
Apart from Sherlock and Tropic Thunder, I haven't really heard him speak all that differently to his normal voice. No matter the pitch or tone he uses, I can still hear it's him. Similar intense stare throughout his roles also. This is all perfectly fine as many actors retain a bit of themselves in a role.
He'll really need to consider changing everything the ground up, otherwise we'll be thinking that's Tony Stark as Dr Doom.
RDJ has been through it in the past. I am so glad to see him moving forward with all of his positivity. I also think he will do an amazing job as Doom.🍻✌
They can still salvage it - if he's a stark variant gone bad when he's defeated the real Dr. Doom appears and gives the "A lesser existence such as yours Stark is unfit to bear the name of DOOM..." or something like that...but they won't so it's screwed.
Shut up
That would be so awesome!
After Oppenheimer, I have no doubts about Robert Downey Jr. as Doom. He’ll kill it.
Im excited Blade is officially in the continuity
See, after watching DP&W I came to the conclusion that the movie was establishing a permanent variant universe (that's DP's) and the other characters would also be getting "permanent" variant Marvel Max universes. Or as I said leaving the theater DP's universe is the Rated R universe.
Guys doom by rdj will be awesome with his face messed up and using his skills to use different voices and accents we're going to get something awesome if he puts into Doctor Doom as much love as he did Iron Man were in for a real treat
100% agree
❤hope
I’m more curious who is playing Fantastic Four? You know Sue Storm, Johnny Storm, Reed Richards aka Mr Fantastic, and Ben Grimm aka The Thing.
Pedro Pascal is playing Reed Richards.
Vanessa Kirby as Susan
Joseph Quinn as Johnny
Ebon Moss-Bachrach as Thing
IMDb is our friend
Terrible choices too besides maybe Joseph.
@@ohiovetoutdoors You're opinion. Very shitty one too. Literally anybody can play these roles if you can act. Its all about the script.
@@hamsterrwrld6767 Your opinion of my opinion is pretty shitty too, troll. Movie will suck and so do your unwanted comments
Title says what "everyone" is saying, proceeds to say hope some hate it and some love it.
What, people are saying it looks desperate and a last-ditch effort by Disney to save the MCU?
@AndrewSnarls because it is. They could've picked someone better to be cast as dr doom.
@@willieg7895someone better like who?
@@willieg7895 - If Robert Downey Jr isn't wearing prosthetics that makes his face unrecognizable or he's not wearing the mask the entire movie then they definitely should have looked for a different actor because we shouldn't see his face or witness characters in the universe question if it's Tony Stark.
Earth-11029 Tony Stark became Dr Doom in the comics.
Victor von Doom became Iron Man.
So how do they explain why Dr Death looks exactly like Tony Stark?
Also proves that MCU is nothing without Robert Downey Jr and they can't have a successful film without him (which is why he is shoehorned into Spiderman and the Edward Norton Hulk film without context).
Check Dead Pool numbers.
Funny thing is I don't miss Tony Stark at all. I just miss the consistency in writing quality. I love the direction the franchise is going but they have made some really bad choices. Getting Taiki Waititi to direct Thor 3 was definitely one of them. Making the Marvels for an audience who don't watch superhero movies just because people tried to say it was sexist not to... also a bad choice. But other than that, I've been really enjoying the new MCU. More wins than losses I think.
This aged well after Deadpoola release. Lol what a stupid post
people are limited to the story arcs, and cannot fathom RDJ's capacity for acting. He would be such a terrifying villain that it would make the viewers hair on their arms and the back of their neck stands up. I am excited, and I cannot wait.
A lot of people complaining on the casting as if rdj only acted in ironman character in his whole acting career. Rdj is a versatile actor given a good plot and script he definitely can pull it off. Give it a chance first people!
We know he is a good actor that doesnt mean he needs to play 2 major characters smh. Give it to another actor so they can a different take
After failure upon failure disney/marvel needs their golden goose back
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Madness in the multiverse, iron man, dr. Doom? What’s the difference? Both geniuses
Big difference in the 2 characters Tony Stark isn't even as smart as Dr. Doom!!!
@@miltonbailey4968 but he his perfect for the role, no matter the level of genius it’s just a genre. We are used to seeing him genius roles Look forward to it to see how he puts his twist and spin on it.
@TheGrumpyGriffin man I respectfully disagree. Maybe if he wouldn't have played Iron Man first, I would be more open to it. But Dr. Doom is that dude like Vader of Marvel. The man use science and magic!!! I feel like you need someone that can bring a different level to the role then i feel RDJ can give!!
@@miltonbailey4968 ok, but in my eyes as mentioned in this video it’s almost a bookend. No matter what us long time marvel fans agree that there is a better choice , it’s Marvel pronounced $$$ . I would love to have a different Dr. Doom. But it’s capitalism to say the least. But as far as his comments RDJs let him be known for more than one character. But your opinion is valid.
@@TheGrumpyGriffin I'm still gonna see it with an open mind. And I'll make my final decision then. But as of right now, i don't like it lol
Damn it’s not going to be Cillian Murphy, thought that would’ve been a great casting but I’m hoping for the best with this
They shoulda got Javier from No Country for Old Men and from Mother to play Doom.
Hopefully he does better with this DR. role than his last DR. role...Doolittle....
Mads Mikkelsen or Liam Neeson would have have been awesome pick for the role of Dr. Doom.
No one said he is Victor Von Doom.
I have so many questions.
Is he still tony stark or victor von doom?
Is it set in a new universe?
Will he appear in fantastic four?
He played out the ironman movies. His character died as well. Makes 100% sense
2:57 I love this!
The role swapping is perfect!!! Next year Hiddleston’s Loki will return to take over Hall H once again!!!
It will the be announced that he and the T.V.A. will bring together heroes from across the Multiverse to battle against RDJ’s Doom and his legion of Doombots!
They should give the dr doom role to cillian murphy. Hahah. People love RDJ as iron man. This will not work. 😂 they just killed the mcu badly.
I really really dont like rdj as dr doom, they should have brought in a new actor, rdj should be in as iron man from another universe
Great choice, awesome idea...Congratulations
Just imagine if Tony Stark never had his hero moment in the cave in the first Iron Man. So instead of him building the first Iron Man suit and starting his hero journey he broke bad instead. The smartest person in the MCU and he goes the villain route. I think this has huge potential if they do it right. Plus just imagine Peter Looking at Tony but it's not Tony and he wants to destroy everything. The possibilities are endless if you think about it.
They really fumbled the bag with this one. If you wanted to say “we’re out of ideas” without saying it, this is how you do it.
LOL at people assuming this is "THE DR DOOM" Its the multiverse , its a Doom variant. Von Doom proper will still be able to pop up in fantastic 4 movies.
I mean...he can be a tony stark variant AND a Dr.doom variant. He doesnt have to be the only big bad doomy daddy.
Having RDJ playing Doom is BRILLIANT!!!
Yes!
This is just so perfect
I don't don't he will be the same charismatic character as Tony was. I think RDJ picked Dr Doom to be able to do the opposite. To broaden his acting range.
Makes Tony’s death meh now…
Doom in the comics never even shows his face because of the scares on his face, that’s why he wears his mask and NEVER takes it off. He will most likely not be tied to tony stark.
With RDJ playing Doom, its gonna be sick. Can't wait.
This is epic casting! Can’t believe they got him inside the MCU again!!! Wooooo
Great move. To me RDJ is the backbone of the Avenger world and movies. He is an awesome actor and it would not be the same without him. It will be interesting to see him as a bad guy. He will NAIL the role for sure.
Well, does go with the Iron man song. "Heavy boots of lead, fills his victims full of dread", "Kills the people he once saved". Now, wether or not he gets "turned to steel in the great magnetic field" is to be seen.
I love this news. No one else would’ve made sense as Dr Doom
They put RDJ just for saving the Marvel boat! Should be fair to choose anybody else. RDJ will always be Ironman in our hearts!
I called this a few years ago. Marvel has been downhill for years and NEED RDJ back.
Can't wait :)
The ending, standing ovation bay bay!
They don’t want to take a risk on an untested actor.
It was a cash business move..😔
"Avergers: Desperation" should be the name of the next movie.