Film Theory: Marvel Paid $100M for Him... Is it Worth It?

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  • @CynicalReprobate
    @CynicalReprobate 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8668

    Paying an actor an entire movie budget’s worth of salary just to have them comeback as a different role is the funniest and saddest thing in the entertainment world

    • @Jason75913
      @Jason75913 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +405

      not the first or last time it is done, unfortunately
      I think even sadder is clinging to old, deceased actors using computer graphics to recreate their likeness *cough*disney*cough*

    • @itsjustacomment454
      @itsjustacomment454 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      Yeah it's dumb

    • @Holy_Bible_Reads_Ai
      @Holy_Bible_Reads_Ai 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +176

      Notice his first Role as Iron man was $500,000 and compare that to now he’s making 200x exactly his original salary. On top his original role is 5-10 years working class salary 😂. Dude broke the matrix hope he continues donating maybe a lot more even. Top 1% owns 40% words wealth and climbing

    • @IncredibleDude11
      @IncredibleDude11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      Well in my opinion he deserves every penny. The MCU would not exist if it wasn’t RDJ and marvel expects to hit at least a billion

    • @Aegikush
      @Aegikush 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      well, its their money xD

  • @theindexfinger3434
    @theindexfinger3434 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3563

    Whats killing the mcu is not the lack of good actors. Its marvels strategy in general; the lack of good writing/directing and the vfx teams being underpaid and overworked.

    • @Yog-slagunar
      @Yog-slagunar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

      Amen. Getting story writers for each movies that know 101 story telling. And have an over aching story writer not to oversee but to keep track of the greater story

    • @anoopkashyap401
      @anoopkashyap401 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Yes. I was actually kind of excited for 'The Marvels' because it featured my favorite lesser-known Mutant. I never ended up watching it...

    • @PeterGriffin11
      @PeterGriffin11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Quantity over quality.

    • @o.Froggy.o
      @o.Froggy.o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@PeterGriffin11 unfortunately, that seems to be their approach on things so that they can keep up with the times

    • @MattStrike
      @MattStrike 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I would say they are hiring some irritating actors that don’t help.

  • @乂
    @乂 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7192

    The real winner here is Robert himself

    • @Sillybilleh
      @Sillybilleh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      Agreed

    • @dockboys2023
      @dockboys2023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      X indeed 👍

    • @PenaEnrique
      @PenaEnrique 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      shut up bot

    • @The_x35
      @The_x35 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@dockboys2023 thank you

    • @-CENSORED0-
      @-CENSORED0- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@PenaEnriqueIs your mindset really EVERY verified person you don’t know is a bot? get real.

  • @riliapratch
    @riliapratch 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +216

    I just don't want them to make Doom quippy like so many other MCU characters. I didn't care for it with Ultron, I would haaaate it for Doom.

  • @Hathur
    @Hathur 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2694

    Disney's problem: Countless millions spent on the actors..... Meanwhile, around $80,000 to $100,000 for their writers (and even less in some cases). A great actor can't save a garbage script.

    • @rei2684
      @rei2684 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +211

      Fr the writers are carrying the show and they clearly aren't getting near the much for some actors, Marvel really should put the money on his writers and if those big actors want so much money, better decline and look for newer actors better instead wasting a movie budget on someone who fans don't want to him again in this franchise

    • @aidenkz
      @aidenkz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      No they can't save a garbage script but they can still bring in people. Hugh Jackman hard carried the garbage Fox X-Men movies. There are some good ones but most of them were terrible but people wanted more of Hugh Jackman's Wolverine

    • @vyor8837
      @vyor8837 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      "the writers are only earning 6 figures for a single movie script"

    • @pyerack
      @pyerack 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Disney doesn't care about hiring good writers because they 100% believe that audiences do not care about the story, just action and things they recognize.
      They're only half right.

    • @BobtheFixer-tb9jj
      @BobtheFixer-tb9jj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      the film industry needs good scripts o keep them going, but at a marvel low point like this, the return of one of the most famous and best actors in marvel history is going to generate them a ton of hype surrounding the new movies. if they want to keep audiences engaged 4 the movies, they will have to make a good or atleast decent script, but they alr dont have a good rep rn so they need big faces to promo them first

  • @utopia19876
    @utopia19876 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2888

    Okay… but I don’t want to see an evil Ironman that makes Tom holland confused. I don’t want a variant Ironman. I want the Shakespearean magical science dictator that is three steps ahead of everyone and is only limited by his ego. I want Victor Von Doom.

    • @KhanMann66
      @KhanMann66 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +277

      My theory is Marvel just going to say ironman doesn’t exist in Doom’s universe. And that explains why he looks and sounds like Tony Stark but he isn’t. Still awkward though.

    • @RobotronicFIat
      @RobotronicFIat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

      Actually 🤓 there was a comic that stark became Dr doom once

    • @superautopenguin2877
      @superautopenguin2877 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

      @@RobotronicFIatYou on about the one where doom stole Stark’s body?

    • @Aqua-ij3xs
      @Aqua-ij3xs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

      Yeah, if they’re gonna have Doom as the next big bad, have Doom as the next big bad! Evil Tony Stark is not Dr. Doom. That’s the worst possible decision they could make with the character.

    • @dr.unventor
      @dr.unventor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Exaaaactly

  • @sofie_morales
    @sofie_morales 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11223

    Robert took "you either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villian" a little too seriously 😭

    • @jaydena6297
      @jaydena6297 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +597

      I mean, he's doing both, not just one or the other 😂

    • @jaydena6297
      @jaydena6297 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +544

      You die a hero, _AND_ live long enough to become a villain

    • @siebepeters639
      @siebepeters639 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Keuzestres noem je dat

    • @robertmilchis5955
      @robertmilchis5955 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      Tony was Dr. Doom in one of the comics

    • @jinx1137
      @jinx1137 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      Isn't a quote from ironman 1: "well I say, why not both?"

  • @golden_gloo
    @golden_gloo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    The whole point of Far From Home was to move away from that man's presence both for the characters and the audience, however the MCU's gotten into a bit of a rut recently without him and Disney like money.

    • @Mvethmini
      @Mvethmini 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Imagine Spider-Man's reaction though.

    • @nicholassgobero
      @nicholassgobero หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Mvethminiidk if spider-man's reaction should be what draws people to like a fantastic four villain

  • @deadmeme5491
    @deadmeme5491 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1071

    13:43 Chris Evan’s being the human torch in Deadpool and wolverine didn’t “only work” cuz it’s different from captain America Chris Evan’s literally played the human torch before being Captain America. It worked cuz it was a fan service call back to the old fantastic 4 movies

    • @craigkuhlman6869
      @craigkuhlman6869 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

      It's a cute call-back to Mr. Evan's previous work before the MCU

    • @HolyNamed
      @HolyNamed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      He knows that, he either worded it wrong or forgot but he knows He played human torch

    • @Boots_293
      @Boots_293 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I think head trying to say that the cameo only worked so well because he had played the character before 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @bluefiremarkii
      @bluefiremarkii 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      People didn't care much for his role there. The point was everyone thought he was a captain america variant then his personality was a complete 180 with torch, so it's the fact he played both that made it good

    • @sinfulmicrowave
      @sinfulmicrowave 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      While I agree that it doesn't "only work" because of the subversion of expectations, it really does amplify his call back.

  • @datchia
    @datchia 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2711

    It’s going to be interesting to see if the similarities are brought up between Dr Doom and Tony stark. I mean, Spider-Man JUST got over the whole “everywhere I go I see his face” bit and now THATS going to be difficult when facing the new big bad…

    • @gmreye
      @gmreye 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +150

      True if Spider-Man is involved he may end up having something like a panic attack

    • @FNAFer21511
      @FNAFer21511 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

      Doctor doom is usually a masked guy but if the wanted to have him show his face they could make it a multiverse variant. They will hopefully show Doom in Fantastic Four.

    • @ChaiTea09
      @ChaiTea09 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Give me that confrontation! Pls, Marvel!

    • @cod-zombie098
      @cod-zombie098 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      skibiy mog

    • @MrBlue6
      @MrBlue6 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Big fan hiii datchia

  • @Takerings
    @Takerings 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3001

    Robert found the infinite money loophole fr

    • @spikerex_
      @spikerex_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Fr

    • @BR-jw7pm
      @BR-jw7pm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

      Marvel 2007: you want to make a blockbuster with this washed-out, has-been?!
      Marvel 2024: HAVE 100,000,000 TO BE IN OUR MOVIES AGAIN!!!

    • @stingerjohnny9951
      @stingerjohnny9951 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      @@BR-jw7pm The peaks and valleys of an actors life XD

    • @Agitated_Biscuit
      @Agitated_Biscuit 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      True

    • @el_perro2436
      @el_perro2436 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      IN 1 MINUTE?

  • @tamannakarim5418
    @tamannakarim5418 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +957

    Kick paid xQC $150M and he streams on Kick over Twitch I think it was worth it

    • @slimfadey6157
      @slimfadey6157 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Fr

    • @KouriRyu
      @KouriRyu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      Who?

    • @somestupiddudewithayoutube4676
      @somestupiddudewithayoutube4676 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KouriRyuNorwegian gremlin

    • @charisma7268
      @charisma7268 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@KouriRyuthe king

    • @johnmarkson1990
      @johnmarkson1990 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Robert would only do 100M for marvel. anyone else that wants him pays at least 800M+.

  • @SlightAvarice
    @SlightAvarice 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +693

    IMO making Doom take his mask off constantly would ruin the current image of Doom. His mask is a very large part of his identity taking it away would be like taking iron man's arc reactor.

    • @blackkitty420
      @blackkitty420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Watch it have the same mask off mechanic that Iron man's suit did.

    • @RaifuEnthusiast
      @RaifuEnthusiast 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Hopefully they understand how bad halo was

    • @user-ev2gv9zk2t
      @user-ev2gv9zk2t 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ik and mcu revealing the actor early on…

    • @LinkNinjaMaster
      @LinkNinjaMaster 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I bet in the first movie he will have the mask for most of the first act, then will show his face after that

    • @alfredo2404
      @alfredo2404 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You could make the argument that the newer actors in the MCU are lacking that X factor, the "royal jelly", the magnetism the older ones had. Either they are mid or good but turn out to be cancelled.

  • @BravoSix707
    @BravoSix707 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +737

    This isn't about phases or long term plans anymore. It's PURELY short term now.

    • @whisper3856
      @whisper3856 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Welcome to modern capitalism, eh?

    • @vyor8837
      @vyor8837 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      ​@@whisper3856 as though communists have never done that.

    • @abdelrahman788
      @abdelrahman788 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      ​@@vyor8837Both are bad and need adjustments, but we all know that this kind of change will never happen except in our dreams. 😂

    • @Preme-TR4
      @Preme-TR4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@whisper3856the eh is so annoying😂

    • @MRtecno98
      @MRtecno98 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@whisper3856 what does this have to do with capitalism

  • @Sjono
    @Sjono 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +364

    “How would Spider-Man react”
    That’s the biggest issue I have with this casting. Rather than focusing entirely on his own merits as a villain and his relationship with the Fantastic Four, people wondering how preestablished MCU characters would react over Reed takes away from Victor and just forever have Tony looming over him

    • @orlandojosemoraamaya363
      @orlandojosemoraamaya363 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yeah, but reed by mcu standards is a “new” character cause he wasn’t in phase 1, plus he’s reaction will be the same as always,disappointed, and tense, or shocked

    • @o.Froggy.o
      @o.Froggy.o 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Though you are right, I feel like a lot of people don't want to hear the same story over and over, they want something new, something different and exciting, and this may be exactly what they need

    • @Sjono
      @Sjono 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@o.Froggy.o
      Dr Doom hasn’t been done justice in live action yet. Him being actually accurate to the comics would be new

    • @derekg5006
      @derekg5006 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@o.Froggy.othe story hasn't even been told yet. Doom was never portrayed well in the movies ever. The only decent Doom portrayal was in the 1994 movie that was never even officially released
      This isn't like Batman or Spider-Man's origin story you can just gloss over since everyone knows it, Doom literally never had an opportunity to actually be portrayed well. An actual classic Doom and Reed rivalry unironically classifies as new unique and exciting

  • @calibie
    @calibie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Everytime I see the dr doom costume all I can think of is the wizard from “The Wizard Of Oz” 💀

  • @rooperekila
    @rooperekila 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1853

    This really feels like a marvel desperate "ooh look its the guy u love please watch our movie plz plz"

    • @little_moth
      @little_moth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Exactly

    • @muhammadHassan-kj1jy
      @muhammadHassan-kj1jy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      He's got the talent. He'll defo make it work. And this will draw people back 100%

    • @Spyalwayswins
      @Spyalwayswins 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Or they actually just have an interesting story to tell.

    • @rooperekila
      @rooperekila 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      @@muhammadHassan-kj1jy ofc it will be drawing back people but its shi**ing on the legacy of iron man. Imagine if Christian Bale played the joker in a new dark knight movie? It wouldnt work either

    • @magede.9149
      @magede.9149 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Depends on the story they write

  • @PartytimeYOLO
    @PartytimeYOLO 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +586

    3:14 not mentioning the allergy death at one of their restaurants, told multiple times about the allergy and told it was safe, only for the wife to die, and when the husband sues, Disney says he cant because HE had a free month subscription to Disney+ years before......

    • @BrunoTigerFx
      @BrunoTigerFx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Just to clarify, Disney doesn't own the restaurant, it owns the building and the land. So, the Disney T&C could not be applied, but, Disney can pay lawyers to do force that. But again, this would be correct if someone died on a Doctor Doom or fantastic four ride.

    • @PartytimeYOLO
      @PartytimeYOLO 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

      @@BrunoTigerFx however stating he can't because of a Disney+ subscription that he no longer has is the issue. the restaurant staff is to blame for the death, but Disney defending themselves like this is sketchy as sh..

    • @sillypplproductions2
      @sillypplproductions2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      THATS WHAT HAPPENED???

    • @piplupcola
      @piplupcola 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      Disney can't pay 50k to help a widower whose wife was killed by a restaurant on their grounds but can pay 100 mil to RDJ.

    • @advocatusdiaboli9909
      @advocatusdiaboli9909 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Its also not true that he cannot sue at all. He cannot sue before state courts, but he can go for arbitration. Although unusual for private individuals, arbitration is not so bad and very well used for commercial disputes.

  • @pizzalegend23
    @pizzalegend23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +885

    bro went from being in jail to having someone pay 100$ million to him

    • @ZackaryAsAlways
      @ZackaryAsAlways 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Crazy how things happen

    • @DeadEye42069
      @DeadEye42069 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      His tropic thunder arc was crazy

    • @asdkotable
      @asdkotable 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Bro went from being unhireable to getting 100$ million to act. What a glow-up.

    • @janmajer4662
      @janmajer4662 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@asdkotable Can't say I'm not happy for him

  • @valley5882
    @valley5882 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    When your partner cheats on you, many times, you don’t wanna go back with them, no matter what.
    It feels like they cheated on us, I don’t wanna go back

    • @Rollampert
      @Rollampert 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      but you will go back and they know it

  • @timon6759
    @timon6759 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +285

    9:48 I'm gonna disagree by the time we saw Thanos on screen as the villain of the movie we knew he wanted the infistones for something and it wasn't good. They built a mad sense of foreboding around Thanos that was only added to when we saw him win.

    • @papabearlives9995
      @papabearlives9995 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Yes , the post credit scene in avengers got everyone stirred up and when guardians hit everyone was onboard.

    • @XopheAdethri
      @XopheAdethri 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      We all saw the snap coming from the second we saw Thanos.

    • @promaster-qf5wm
      @promaster-qf5wm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I read infistones are flintstones

    • @JackDonaldson-gy2zu
      @JackDonaldson-gy2zu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I agree with YOU, just showing 2 seconds of him builds hype, so by the time he was on the big screen the fans had already built him up because of the footage

    • @ProcyonNite
      @ProcyonNite 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Exactly. Although we saw him in only short segments, there was still that presence of a looming threat.

  • @blacktoothlongwalker1037
    @blacktoothlongwalker1037 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +160

    "It's clearly a bait and switch." is what I was saying until I saw the size of his paycheck.

    • @iQueue211
      @iQueue211 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Same!
      I feel like they will recast after Secret Wars, but the damage will already be done for the average MCU fan who isn't familiar with the comics.
      They will only see RDJ as Doom and not accept whoever gets the recast.

  • @pigeon4481
    @pigeon4481 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    10:55 I like the version more where he only got like a small wound but covered his face up because he was such a perfectionist

    • @eur0be4t3r
      @eur0be4t3r 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Kinds like Handsome Jack in Borderlands 2?

  • @wv5853
    @wv5853 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    “No don’t do it”
    “You fool! Doom does as he pleases”
    My god I hope they use this version of Doom.

  • @lukethephantomthief
    @lukethephantomthief 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +313

    The second I saw this headline I was like: Yep, they’re getting desperate

    • @BrunoTigerFx
      @BrunoTigerFx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Again, they stil are dealing with Chapek's unfinished bad buisness, so, clean slate, start putting more efford on quality than quantity. Yes, they need a clear path for this and fingers crossed, they can focus on giving us a good start for X-men ...

    • @NRA_BRUTISØ
      @NRA_BRUTISØ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Average Karen who agrees with someone’s opinion bc they’re famous on TH-cam.

    • @Dulphin_editz_TDP
      @Dulphin_editz_TDP 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He’s getting paid less than he got paid for endgame. I don’t see it as desperate

    • @NRA_BRUTISØ
      @NRA_BRUTISØ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Dulphin_editz_TDP wait that is true I just noticed that… Yea this is a big Karen then isn’t it?

    • @TheCanderemy
      @TheCanderemy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@Dulphin_editz_TDPIt aint about the money. Its about his name, face, and reputation with the fans. When I saw the headline, I did think that Marvel's getting desperate as well. That was my first thought, so no 'Big Name Influencer" influenced this initial reaction. They dont know how to re-create what they did in the first phases of the MCU, so they're relying on RDJ (whom they made into a star) because they dont know how to create NEW stars through good movies anymore. Honestly, i think they should stop focusing on getting Big Name Actors and instead focus on good writing for the movie to succeed and let it speak for itself.

  • @calcifur
    @calcifur 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +774

    Starts video with how Doom is actually a great leader who loves his people
    Halfway through: "how would spiderman react to seeing him as an evil dictator?"

    • @Nero-F121
      @Nero-F121 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +171

      he wants to achieve world peace by either a gentle guiding hand or a brutal fist, so yeah, HE IS TECHNICALLY a great leader, but he's also a dictator.

    • @GoErikTheRed
      @GoErikTheRed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      @@Nero-F121he’s a great leader as long as he’s popular. But he does not tolerate dissent

    • @SherrickDuncan
      @SherrickDuncan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      ​@Nero-F121 The term dictator is not inherently derogatory.
      There are benevolent dictators amd there are malevolent dictators.

    • @AdrianChazz
      @AdrianChazz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@GoErikTheRed I would've loved to see Antony Starr's eyes under the mask...
      If anyone has the Doom hate stare is him.

    • @frostingthebirthdayclown3774
      @frostingthebirthdayclown3774 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Nero-F121 Does that truly make him evil? Or chaotic good?

  • @JackDonaldson-gy2zu
    @JackDonaldson-gy2zu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +290

    2:27 We’re called “chat” now, not theorists. What has Lee become?

    • @amberbolt6462
      @amberbolt6462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      We are also called chat in style theory, feels bad

    • @jakattack117
      @jakattack117 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      FR I was like what who? Am I on twitch or something 😂

    • @catfan2o23
      @catfan2o23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      chat is this real

    • @Dr_Idiocracy
      @Dr_Idiocracy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      So? Are we not In TH-cam chat? We are chat. Chat is us.

    • @ENDERPLAYZ36YT
      @ENDERPLAYZ36YT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      We are theorists

  • @christian-0813
    @christian-0813 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Robert as a villain is truly shocking for me

    • @victorjozek5384
      @victorjozek5384 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He worked pretty well in Oppenheimer

  • @JojoDrip
    @JojoDrip 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

    Honestly, I don't understand why they didnt grab RDJ and Make him into superior Iron man and grab someone else as Doom. That would've made more sense since we are doing the Battle world story.

    • @gopo9254
      @gopo9254 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Tom cruise superior Ironman

    • @koro_kokoro
      @koro_kokoro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pick up a comic book, it’s because this happened

    • @JojoDrip
      @JojoDrip 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@koro_kokoro I know iron WAS Dr Doom but I'd there were gonna do Dr Doom, Make it like an original Dr Doom for marvel and not a multiverse version

    • @koro_kokoro
      @koro_kokoro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JojoDrip if Disney actually wants to start making money again after all the endless colossal failures… they are going to start by playing it safe and stick to the source material

  • @Rulz559
    @Rulz559 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +266

    I can’t wait for Lee to become Insane because of the upcoming new MCU Lore 😭😭😭

    • @osmosisjones4912
      @osmosisjones4912 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Pixar created cinematic times by jumping time periods without ever even trying. So why didn't work for starwars

    • @aren-u4t
      @aren-u4t 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      which one, there is a million lees.

    • @Rulz559
      @Rulz559 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@aren-u4t Wdym which one?? Who do you think it is??? (I really hope that you’re joking)

    • @HeII0_th3r3
      @HeII0_th3r3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Rulz559i think he was talking about the amount of stan lees in the marvel universe

  • @satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185
    @satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +148

    I've never read comics, but I've watched Wiki Weekends, and my favourite thing about Dr. Doom has to be that when he left his house for college, he told his dad "you're the man of the house now"

    • @TheGeniusMind573
      @TheGeniusMind573 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      YOOOOO thats actually crazy i wish they implement it maybe in a different way in the movie that geniunely cold

    • @satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185
      @satsujin-shathewitchkingof6185 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TheGeniusMind573 Agreed

  • @LightKid5754_no_more_z
    @LightKid5754_no_more_z 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    There’s a comic book series (The Infamous Iron Man) where, in an alternate universe, Victor Von Doom becomes Tony Stark. Then, he travels to the main Marvel Comics universe (somehow). I think that’s what they’re going for in Doomsday and Secret Wars.

  • @spustatu
    @spustatu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    I feel like RDJ deserves more build up for his villain than is usually afforded in the MCU. If the first time we see him is in the next Avengers movie, that just seems like a huge mistake. They were clearly trying to build up Kang more than their usual, so I hope they will do the same for Doom.

    • @danieljohansson4550
      @danieljohansson4550 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      He has been confirmed to be in the Fantastic 4 movie, though to what extent we don't know. He has also been confirmed to be from their universe. I watched most of "New Rockstars" videos on it and it seems realy reliable.

    • @bIametheniIe
      @bIametheniIe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They should've just recast Kang.

  • @junglesus
    @junglesus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    For context, in fast five, dom's team spent days possibly weeks preparing to steal 100 million dollars... rdj did it in a room full of suits

  • @upg5147
    @upg5147 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    My problem with this is that the change this is supposed to be to shake things up isn't a change at all. RDJ is an amazing actor and I'd love to see him in more things, but he played his role in the MCU and bringing him back has a lot of negatives outside of the meta of the story. I also an pumped to see Dr. Doom, but having RBJ does feels desperate and instead of paving the way to the future feels like we are firmly clinging to the past.

    • @tigrytime658
      @tigrytime658 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I agree about RDJ being a great actor and as much as I’m glad to see him return to the silver screen, I wish it wasn’t Marvel again because he’s voiced his concerns about not being able to get proper roles and it shows with his only prominent roles outside the MCU was Sherlock golems (which is amazing but underperformed), Doolittle which was meh and bombed and Oppenheimer which was amazing and he deserved the awards. I just hope RDJ won’t be shunned from future roles because not only will he play possibly two of the most iconic roles in the MCU or be turned down because this movie is a flop

    • @upg5147
      @upg5147 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@tigrytime658 I don't think he has anything to worry about. People know he has talent and that he is never the issues with the movies.

  • @maxmcculley675
    @maxmcculley675 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

    My first thought with Robert Downey JR coming back was "does Robert want to come back or is he just phoning it in for a paycheck?"

    • @stormaggeden
      @stormaggeden 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      He looked very tired during the reveal. Im guessing he doesnt actually want to do it but was strong armed.

    • @erubianwarlord8208
      @erubianwarlord8208 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@stormaggeden on the other hand he wanted the role way back when F4 dropped so who knows

    • @erickamakeeaina1649
      @erickamakeeaina1649 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I think it could be a bit of both?
      I am just speculating, but if I were to guess. The main reason is the money but he definetly has a soft spot for the MCU as it revived his career and will enjoy being back at it.

    • @farenhaid13421
      @farenhaid13421 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@erubianwarlord8208 Wait he wanted to be doom way back?

  • @ThatOtherGuypluh-gu7mr
    @ThatOtherGuypluh-gu7mr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    “DOOMED?” that’s such a low hanging fruit this is why I love y’all

  • @silvereaglestudios
    @silvereaglestudios 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    All I hope is that Dr. Doom is not gonna be just a Tony Stark variant and actually Victor Von Doom.

    • @ericgieskieng4262
      @ericgieskieng4262 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A Doom that needs Stark isn't worthy of the name and I won't be watching any more of their movies or shows.

    • @erickamakeeaina1649
      @erickamakeeaina1649 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I just think they will make him a stark variant who is named Victor Von Doom

    • @CedricDur
      @CedricDur 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@erickamakeeaina1649 That seems what it will be. Which misses all the possible points and enters the usual 'what if' stories which are nice to browse but not what made the OG character popular.

    • @bigjalapeno7061
      @bigjalapeno7061 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He probably will be Victor Von Doom

    • @koro_kokoro
      @koro_kokoro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@erickamakeeaina1649nah, most likely gloss over the event of the comic where Doom mind swapped with Stark

  • @kyson-gl3nk
    @kyson-gl3nk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    11:30 they’ve already confirmed that he is an alternate universe character, BUT he was roommates with an alternate Tony Stark during college, I think. He’ll still be playing the original idea of Doom, and staying as Viktor

  • @HunterSentinel
    @HunterSentinel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    19:49 I still can’t believe they actually have Deadpool running around the Disney parks.
    I reallly want to watch one of those interaction things, but I’m scared of cringey interactions.

    • @BenTheBakedBean
      @BenTheBakedBean 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It’s like the same but it’s weird seeing him family friendly

    • @BenTheBakedBean
      @BenTheBakedBean 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Or like no cussing and inappropriate jokes

    • @JustACactus616
      @JustACactus616 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BenTheBakedBeanThe funny thing is that he still says a lot of questionable stuff

    • @Rurik_Luci
      @Rurik_Luci 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Really shouldn't let that MF around kids without something to keep his morals in line

    • @Bustermachine
      @Bustermachine 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean, they have 'fascist space goons' running around the parks (Storm Troopers) but I think dead pool being a foul mouthed killer just comes off as more 'real' to people?
      Edit - I mean yeah, the storm troopers are baddies, but it does make me think a little about how it really is just 'merchandise' as far as Disney is concerned.

  • @coolo227
    @coolo227 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    5:39 did he just say robert doomie jr

    • @BeauzieM
      @BeauzieM 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Yep… 🤦‍♀️

    • @amberbolt6462
      @amberbolt6462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I guess this is a "joke"

    • @BeauzieM
      @BeauzieM 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@amberbolt6462WHAT A SURPRISE

    • @DMIINDSTUDIOS
      @DMIINDSTUDIOS 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂😂

    • @ileok6548
      @ileok6548 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this is the silliest comment ive ever seen ever

  • @SymbioteMullet
    @SymbioteMullet 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    You've got a point about comic characters resembling their film counterparts...
    Superman _still_ looks remarkably like Christopher Reeves, and will for ages.

  • @bobisconsumed520
    @bobisconsumed520 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I feel like if they were recasting RDJ, they should’ve recasted him as Ultron. Include scene where Ultron conquers Kang (as Kang is just a human with advanced technology that Ultron could easily hack) in any series and becomes new big bad. Ultron established villain with potential to evolve like he did in comics.

  • @Lord-Emperor-Vader
    @Lord-Emperor-Vader 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

    My fun theory is that Dr Doom is going to do a Hush by making his face look like Iron Man to mess with people and make him be popular.

    • @Dudeman23rd
      @Dudeman23rd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      I'd be down for this actually, it lets Marvel have their cake and eat it too. They can do something similar to what they did with the High Evolutionary in Guardians 3: Doom spends most of the movie(s) with RDJ's face, and then it's revealed towards the end that the Tony face is an advanced prosthetic, revealing the classic horrifically-scarred Doom face underneath.

    • @ManofactionDevelopment
      @ManofactionDevelopment 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Does anyone else here know about the comic wear Dr. doom and Iron Man switch bodies in which Dr. doom becomes Iron Man?

    • @ManofactionDevelopment
      @ManofactionDevelopment 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Perhaps Dr. doom gets plastic surgery in the MCU to look like Tony Stark

    • @ponyphonic
      @ponyphonic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Fantastic Beasts, anyone? Turns out, Doom is actually Johnny Depp.

    • @marquiseh5128
      @marquiseh5128 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The body swap comic is demon in an armor

  • @VidalMoon
    @VidalMoon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    They are definitely going to have him show his face all the time. I'm not confident that Disney even has a long term plan.

  • @PREEM513
    @PREEM513 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    I think RDJr is a good enough actor that he understands not to approach this character the same way he did Ironman. Well……..hopefully.

    • @mateokirstine9782
      @mateokirstine9782 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      It’s possible he won’t have a choice, Disney seems pretty desperate

    • @lexnight8345
      @lexnight8345 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      ... bold of you to assume that he might have a word in how he plays the character 😅

    • @SyntheticFuture
      @SyntheticFuture 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I haven't seen much acting diversity in the work he has done so to me he's another on trick pony like captain Jack sparrow... I mean... That dude that always plays captain Jack sparrow. What's his name again...

    • @firstamongsuckers23
      @firstamongsuckers23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SyntheticFuturetrying to act like you don’t know Johnny Depp’s name while being on a YT channel about films has to be the most moronic thing I’ve seen this month.

    • @GeekZone210
      @GeekZone210 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@SyntheticFutureJohnny Depp has some good range on him.

  • @golden_gloo
    @golden_gloo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It does seem a whole lot less planned out and thoughtful now though then it used to be, Thanos was literally teased in Avengers 2012 and it took all the way until 2019 for that saga to play out. Now, they can't even keep Kang down as the villain for a few years or so and suddenly Dr Doom has just come out of the woodwork, who's meant to be the big bad not to soon from now, but there's literally been zero build up for him showing up unlike all the delicate building for Thanos.

  • @Garanseho
    @Garanseho 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    My main issue with RDJ's casting is that Doctor Doom is one of Marvel's few prominent Romani characters, and he is now the third one they've miscast, following Wanda and Pietro. If you were going to do Doom, I would go the Darth Vader route--have a big, strong, intimidating guy in the suit, and get a Roma voice actor to do the voice.
    Also, if they wanted to bring RDJ back for the nostalgia and story potential, there are better ways to do it than making him Doom. The simplest solution is to have him be an evil Iron Man from an alternate universe--you could combine Superior Iron Man from the Axis event, showing off the awesome EndoSym armor in the process, with the evil Reed Richards variant from Earth-1610, the Maker. Like you said, this could be a Tony that went down a darker path in order to put a suit of armor around the world.
    This allows for even better story potential than Doom simply looking like Tony, since this alternate universe Tony could have connections with his universe's variants of MCU heroes. Perhaps evil Tony's Spider-Man was killed, so he's just as shocked to see Peter as Peter is to see him. Or perhaps evil Tony's Pepper walked out on him after he turned bad, so evil Tony goes after Earth-199999's Pepper, and she and Rhodey have to fight him off. If you're looking for the nostalgia of an evil Iron Man, having him actually be an evil Iron Man makes for a much better story.

    • @greenamber9827
      @greenamber9827 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      This is my main concern.

    • @Mustafa_AhmedPGH
      @Mustafa_AhmedPGH 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You should be the ideas guy at Disney. You think you can pull something off for Star Wars too?

    • @Byronic19134
      @Byronic19134 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      He’s from Latveria and the Romani and Italian are genetically nearly identical in heritage.

    • @Garanseho
      @Garanseho 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Mustafa_AhmedPGH Thanks!

    • @greenamber9827
      @greenamber9827 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Byronic19134 He's stated to be Romani in the comics.

  • @xavierwashington5408
    @xavierwashington5408 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    RDJ never has to walk out his home again

    • @Saren-yc1rk
      @Saren-yc1rk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Well...
      He already had like what, $500 million?
      Not even his grand-grandkids could waste that amount of money unless investing it all in crypto.

  • @RealMilester1
    @RealMilester1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    13:44 it worked because he played The Human Torch previously and before he ever played Cap. The same thing won't apply for RDJ

    • @checkinthebox3263
      @checkinthebox3263 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And how do you know that?
      Cuz the movie is hitting 2 bill just off cameos whether u like it or not

    • @rebelfriend5172
      @rebelfriend5172 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤓👆

    • @b3ans4eva
      @b3ans4eva 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Chris Evans also played Casey Jones in TMNT & Lucas Lee in Scott Pilgrim. The dude gets around the multiverse.

  • @Jordan-cc9fq
    @Jordan-cc9fq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone who's been watching these channels since the very beginning I got to say out of all four of the new hosts I think you do the best job. No disrespect towards the other three I just really like your content I think it coincides the most with how Matpat used to do it

  • @Moho427
    @Moho427 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +172

    I remember when it was announced, I was sitting on my couch at home scrolling on instagram and saw “Avengers: Doomsday” and lost it, with Doom being one of my favorite characters I couldn’t believe it, then I read the part about RDJ and pretty much all my hype vanished

    • @SebMan121
      @SebMan121 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Don't worry. RDJ might be wearing a mask for the entire movie and try to hide his face during flashback scenes.

    • @posselnathalieetfils5853
      @posselnathalieetfils5853 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@SebMan121No he won't he's payed 100 millions dollars no way we see the mask for more than one minute

    • @daggynight4438
      @daggynight4438 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Literally me. I was never a fan of kang, so I got super excited when I heard doom was replacing him. Then I saw it was rdj 😐

    • @momentaryretrospect5967
      @momentaryretrospect5967 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@SebMan121If they did that, there almost no reason to even pay that much to have RDJ play him

    • @SebMan121
      @SebMan121 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@momentaryretrospect5967 they probably pay him so much just to cover his face.

  • @Commander_Jake
    @Commander_Jake 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

    Cillian Murphy Is What I Wanted, RDJ He's Good But I Always Remember Him As Iron Man

    • @melbell0865
      @melbell0865 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Yeah, RDJ is just too ingrained in the MCU as Iron Man to even attempt at another role here, especially like Dr. Doom; Cillian Murphy would’ve been perfect for the role.

    • @AshZy33
      @AshZy33 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@melbell0865Cillian Murphy said he was done doing movies for a while or something like that

    • @Mike-h8m
      @Mike-h8m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp, Will Smith...

    • @Lt_Koro
      @Lt_Koro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AshZy33 even there most certainly were other/better actors to choose. especially since you wouldnt have to pay them like 100 million...

  • @SpiderBat27
    @SpiderBat27 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    18:42 Fortnite doctor doom

    • @Alright281
      @Alright281 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      fortnite
      -william dafoe

  • @SylentWhyspir
    @SylentWhyspir 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Prior to Captain America, Chris Evens did actually play as Johnny Storm in the Fantastic Four

  • @amateurishanimation
    @amateurishanimation 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    “You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain”
    Rdj: how about both

  • @sinfulmicrowave
    @sinfulmicrowave 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    16:13 It makes sense why it works. It's literally what most fanfics are about; taking a character out of a situation or putting them in a completely different one.

  • @Shadow0464-ey9eh
    @Shadow0464-ey9eh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    The first introduction of Dr. Doom in the MCU to the audience will be a guy from another universe with the face of Tony Stark...absolutely insulting.

  • @imaperson52
    @imaperson52 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I gave up on Marvel after Phase 4, and am proud to say I haven't seen anything from Phase 5. But I finally caved and saw Deadpool & Wolverine, and while it's extremely flawed, I really enjoyed it, and it singlehandedly convinced me to give Marvel another chance.
    The next week, I learned that RDJ was back as Dr. Doom.
    Aaaaaand that was the moment my interest in Marvel's future completely died.

  • @TheMsmManiac
    @TheMsmManiac 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    “New mask, same task” -Peter Parker

  • @WarneD1
    @WarneD1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    4:42 you are forgetting that in the comics that Dr Doom was judged by Bast the Panther god who has the ability to see the heart of men and kills anyone who is impure, and Dr Doom survived.

    • @mr.phonkie
      @mr.phonkie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      doom literally killed his one true love for an upgrade how is that pure😭

    • @TheFirstRamenKamen
      @TheFirstRamenKamen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Having a pure heart can be a pure evil or pure good.

    • @WarneD1
      @WarneD1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@TheFirstRamenKamen This also I think Bast was able to look into the many branches of the multiverse/branching timelines and the only one that the entire human population was happy and prosperous for was the world that Dr. Doom was able to conquer the world.

  • @OscarLangleySoryu
    @OscarLangleySoryu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    The Star Wars hotel didn’t fail because people don’t want to do it. It failed because it was an astronomical price!

    • @vyor8837
      @vyor8837 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wat? No, no one went to it.

    • @ohnosmoarlulcatz
      @ohnosmoarlulcatz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@vyor8837 Yeah they couldn't even get enough bookings worth even keeping it running.

    • @OscarLangleySoryu
      @OscarLangleySoryu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@vyor8837 because nobody could afford it

    • @OscarLangleySoryu
      @OscarLangleySoryu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@ohnosmoarlulcatz right… like I said it was ridiculously expensive 🙄

    • @silverfoxchain
      @silverfoxchain 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Omg I looked the amount and it was $1200 dollars per night per guest and it was a mandatory two day stay O O

  • @DeadEye42069
    @DeadEye42069 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When Chris said "Flame on!" I actively said "hUh"

  • @apollolux
    @apollolux 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Anyone who's read the original Infinity Gauntlet saga of comics knew from the moment that Thanos was revealed in the post-credits of the first Avengers movie that the build-up to a competent adaptation of that storyline was _absolutely_ gonna be worth it and pay off. The only genuine disappointment we had in its execution was the lack of Adam Warlock and therefore the change in Nebula's significance during Thanos's actual possession of the completed Gauntlet in order to keep consistent with the MCU's version of events.

  • @jakehanson562
    @jakehanson562 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    13:35 While it could have been you got that big of a reaction due to it being different, I think a good portion of the cheering was also in reference to the fact that Evan's first character in a Marvel movie was as the Human Torch in the 2005 Fantastic Four movie.

  • @JackDonaldson-gy2zu
    @JackDonaldson-gy2zu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

    2:27 were called “chat” now. Not theorists. What has Lee become

    • @ostravamasterson4178
      @ostravamasterson4178 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Hmm i think its lingo, i do miss armored core theories i remember someone making a armored core is underated before ac6 RIP legend 😢

    • @helperb0t4
      @helperb0t4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Nah, chat is y'all is everyone is just another word for a group of people.

    • @Fazkrueger
      @Fazkrueger 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Bro got TH-cam & Twitch mixed up.

  • @albertolopes829
    @albertolopes829 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't know if I am too late or too out of the context to say this here, but I love this channel with MatPat, and I think Lee makes it as enjoyable. Congratulations on the successful (at least in my opinion) transition!

  • @Bcrocs
    @Bcrocs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Alright little theory dump
    They had a good story idea with Kang and the whole “I’m afraid of myself.” idea with the variants and stuff. What if they adapted and already good running story that instead makes RDJ a better Doom who’s typical ways of trying to take over or do his own thing in his own way reveals he’s trying to stop a more monstrous version of himself in the only way he can see fit, with the movie ending with the big bad doom killing RDJ’s one off. That leaves the cliff hanger going into secret wars introducing our main doom cast member. That would be cool.

    • @iQueue211
      @iQueue211 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      HO-LEE-SHEE-IT, THIS IS PERFECT!!!

  • @vvFREAKOUTvv
    @vvFREAKOUTvv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I like the idea of RDJ being Doom, but I think they should've used this opportunity to have a big reveal and shock moment in the movie.
    Like have a post-credit scene where Dooms mask is destroyed or damaged where you can tell who he is, than have him fall through a portal in front of Tom Holland's Spider-Man, then we see Peter's shocked expression after quickly removing his mask, and then a close up of his face revealing RDJ as Doom.

    • @ericgieskieng4262
      @ericgieskieng4262 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that is one of the main reasons I hate this idea.

  • @06yarbrougha
    @06yarbrougha 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    'The cheer RDJ got was insane'.... with that recording, was it a theater of like 20 people? It might just be the recording not sounding as big as it was, but that was unimpressive

  • @officebill7980
    @officebill7980 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If they go for the Doctor Doom is a variant of Iron Man and they do it RIGHT, this could be good. Great video, thanks for keeping my mind open on this casting decision!! Still curious how they will remove Kang tho...

  • @cypherx9
    @cypherx9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    20:45
    "In Latveria, we have no lawyers. Only footdive."

    • @Pog3817
      @Pog3817 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Foot….. D I V E

  • @BlueAngel008
    @BlueAngel008 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Doom is meant to use a mask 99% of the time. So his face really isn't that important when it comes to an actor. They could have used any B list actor to play Doom and completely hide his face. RDJ really shouldn't make a difference other then acting skills. So, sadly, seems like they are going to do something about him being Ironman in the past. Multiverse yada yada yada.

    • @koro_kokoro
      @koro_kokoro 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Body swap. Just like the comic

  • @henrikvonschneeplestein
    @henrikvonschneeplestein 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Not really a fan of being called "chat" instead of "theorists" :/

  • @GameCyborgCh
    @GameCyborgCh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That would certainly be interesting if Doctor Doom isn't actually Victor von Doom but instead is a variant of Tony Stark. One that never got hit by his own weapons and had to be saved by Yinsen in a cave and bust himself out (which is the whole catalyst for why he stopped making weapons and became a hero) and instead got into a downward spiral and became powerhungry thinking he alone could save and protect the world.

  • @Elijahlikechicken
    @Elijahlikechicken 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    3:20 I love how this is just a thing that get referenced now 😂

  • @chedo191
    @chedo191 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    0:47 I mean, i'd argue that the most recent one was affected by matpat leaving

  • @resU1109
    @resU1109 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    I guess I can say Robert Downey JR is very doomed to play the character
    Alright I will see myself out now

    • @DJ0553
      @DJ0553 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😂

    • @resU1109
      @resU1109 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DJ0553 at least I made your day/night even brighter

  • @Oliver0326
    @Oliver0326 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hot take: If they casted RDJ they should have made him superior Iron Man

  • @TuneFormal83
    @TuneFormal83 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I really want a "I hate you 3000" line in the movies

  • @TheFourthEmperorOfTheSea
    @TheFourthEmperorOfTheSea 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +129

    I still don’t know how this will work from a lore standpoint. I really hope they’re not gonna just take the lazy route and say “✨Multiverse✨”, but knowing Marvel, that seems more than likely. I have a lot of probably foolish hope for the MCU after Deadpool & Wolverine and I really want them to keep up the good work, but with Agatha as the next project, it kinda seems unlikely

    • @Bman32x
      @Bman32x 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Does it matter? Marvel takes their bigger name properties seriously. People need to stop acting like they weren’t in tears watching Endgame in theaters.

    • @FulminicMantra
      @FulminicMantra 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Deadpool & Wolverine worked because Disney corpo hires couldn't get their grimey little hands on it.

    • @TheFourthEmperorOfTheSea
      @TheFourthEmperorOfTheSea 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@FulminicMantraoh absolutely! It gave Ryan the room he needed to poke fun at the current Disney situation and relate to the audience.

    • @cameronhodgetts920
      @cameronhodgetts920 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Based on my understanding of the comics, I'd say mind swap. Doctor Doom steals Tony Stark's body. My crazy prediction theory is that John Malkovich is playing an old and dying Doctor Doom in Fantastic Four.

    • @TheFourthEmperorOfTheSea
      @TheFourthEmperorOfTheSea 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cameronhodgetts920that could be interesting and I really hope that they would go that route rather than the “This is a multiverse variant/anchor being” alternative.

  • @Dative420
    @Dative420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    It's only 50M each movie, less then how much he got paid for both avengers infinite war and endgame since he got paid 75M for each of them

    • @scarletspidernz
      @scarletspidernz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Probably negotiated a bigger backend

  • @ninaschmidt3619
    @ninaschmidt3619 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You should see him in the synthesizer he plays, Viennese man, and five individuals at the same time he’s such a great actor regardless of this I believe he’ll be great and he will do his own version of doom spectacularly

  • @JdawgCosplay
    @JdawgCosplay 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    12:10 Spider-Man of all people would probably be the least over reactive over Doom looking like Tony, he's met variants of himself with different faces and much older than him in varying degrees. He might freeze up once or twice but he wouldn't and shouldn't be super confilicted.

    • @dracobutwhatever8611
      @dracobutwhatever8611 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I disagree because its Tony, someone who acted as a father figure to him. We see how much they rely on each other in Infinity War when Spidey gets snapped away, and vice versa in endgame when we see how much it broke Tony.
      I do agree though that Spidey will have to get over it after the first or second shock, but I imagine he will be fully stunned the first time.

    • @racool911
      @racool911 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But this is also the Peter who tried to save villains from other dimensions. Seeing Tony's face will only make him more eager to try and help make Doom good

  • @heartgrenade8359
    @heartgrenade8359 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I think that people forget that RDJ is an actor. His whole job is to act like other personalities. Most people only know him as Tony Stark so they think it’s all he can do.

  • @carodaisrybaarz5396
    @carodaisrybaarz5396 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    Please do a theory on Toon Turf

    • @jalicenixon
      @jalicenixon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes

    • @jaxongreen21
      @jaxongreen21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      there’s not enough to do a full video but a short would be nice, I do hope they do a full video once the full series is out though

    • @PRESS_START_Official
      @PRESS_START_Official 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes yes yes

    • @T.M.Y-dragon
      @T.M.Y-dragon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yesssirrrrrr

    • @datchia
      @datchia 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I agree with this statement

  • @JB-mt9cb
    @JB-mt9cb หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What if Dr. Doom in the movie is an evil version of Iron-man from a different universe

  • @WiseNickVZW
    @WiseNickVZW 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    13:23 or because Chris Evans was Johnny storm in 2007….

  • @SebMan121
    @SebMan121 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    8:14 I dont think this version of doom is tony stark variant. I think this version is just a doom that looks like rdj.

    • @jeremymorris345
      @jeremymorris345 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ya, they already confirmed he is playing a comic accurate Victor Von Doom.

    • @SebMan121
      @SebMan121 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@jeremymorris345 People still think this version of doom is a tony stark variant.

    • @jeremymorris345
      @jeremymorris345 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SebMan121 Unfortunately yes

    • @racool911
      @racool911 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it's Tony but born in Latveria instead of America

    • @jeremymorris345
      @jeremymorris345 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@racool911 They already said He's playing Victor not Tony

  • @davethebrave.
    @davethebrave. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The fact that he paid 100m for him is so much more than what he did in his life.

  • @anyaaa2801
    @anyaaa2801 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cilian as Doctor Doom would have been cool.

  • @RoseNameMillie
    @RoseNameMillie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    20:36 Disney doesn’t care, Disney is going to make it anyway.

    • @popkorn2640
      @popkorn2640 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fax ☹️

    • @novamarpo3
      @novamarpo3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As someone who’s typically pessimistic, I can only hope that you’re wrong.

  • @The_T_Gamer
    @The_T_Gamer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    they should've hit the reset button

  • @mariocervantez2853
    @mariocervantez2853 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    To be fair 100 million dollars is like a speeding ticket for Disney

  • @markstark7366
    @markstark7366 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Idea: Make a video about the oddly same similarities between jjk and undertale such as, Gojo and sans having the same eye colour, died from a unexpected slash, came back as someone else, having specific control over blue and red, theyre a comedian, had the same blue jacket. chara and sukuna having specific control over red, main attack is slashing, they're usually normal but they own a vessel, chara has 20 levels sukuna has 20 fingers, killed a boue eyes perosn that came back, the fallen angel and the fallen child, Papyrus and geto lose their fate in humanity, got killed from someone they trusted deeply which had blue eyes (gojo and sans) and accepted their death, but came back in a way. Edit: don't mind the spelling mistakes

  • @cynalic
    @cynalic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    13:13 DO WE NOT DO SPOILER WARNINGS ANYMORE???

    • @h4cksourc363
      @h4cksourc363 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I couldn't pause fast enough 😭

    • @Hark_v
      @Hark_v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      not after a month

    • @fxeditors
      @fxeditors 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fffff this guy's an idiot matpat was better

    • @Pieall1
      @Pieall1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​​@@Hark_v I thought the etiquette was until the digital release, but okay then... 🫠

    • @cynalic
      @cynalic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Hark_v that's not fair for ppl who js didn't have time/couldnt afford to go to theaters, at least wait for digital release. Plus, common courtesy is to always say spoiler warning before ANY spoiler

  • @samations123
    @samations123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    New mask, same task

  • @heatherkaufmann774
    @heatherkaufmann774 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    10:25 Battle World...isn't that just Earth 🌎🤷😅

  • @SleepyBlanketDemon
    @SleepyBlanketDemon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Marvel needs to hire you to help them write this film so it turns out good

  • @michaeljefferies2444
    @michaeljefferies2444 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What they should have done:
    Announce a fake actor for doom who actually plays a different role.
    Allow the grapevine to leak out that RDJ was going to be in the new avengers films, making people think he is going to be iron man.
    Then hit the big reveal when the mask is removed that tony stark from an alternate dimension is Dr. Doom.