Great review really liked your opinion rednu!! The story pacing improved a lot in my opinion its 8/10 The world design is good, music and characters development is also very good. This few months gacha game story has been good. from genshin 5.3 natlan ending story , ZZZ epic 1.4 story ,rinascita and soon honkai star rail 3.0 story really looking forward to it.
if u dont know , some area has unique encounter like Knight of the Greed when u try to open a chest , Dragon of Dirge fire over a bridge , 2 Knight fight each other, ..etc . That really cool and it make player want to 100% the map to find more unique stuffs like that .
Reframing it as James Bond and his Bond girls kinda makes it a little more palatable for me tbh. Thanks for that. Haha Though I think Solon mentioned in one of the recent interviews that they were gonna try a more ensemble vibe in the future that's less Rover-centric. Intrigued to see how that would look given Rover's role in Solaris-3.
As someone who has just started Wuthering Waves bc it just released on console, I’m excited to hear that this update is good. Hopefully I can catch up to experience it well
Best thing about that is that you have all the chest loot to grab and have all the rolls for the renacita characters, take it slow if your not rolling for Carlotta and enjoy 1.0 and beyond even if the earlier story is meh, it does pick up ater you finish the first area.
13:50 this part is on Carlotta's companion quest I kinda like it this way instead of explaining what happened they just show it to us via quest. I think that's the right approach, show not tell.
13:03 yea lol i was like "wait thats it?!". it actually had more impact on my experience with Carlotta in the story in that her involvement ddint feel as thrilling as it couldve been. what i feel Carlotta lacks that some of the female leads in the story like Jinhsi or Shorekeeper have is vulnerabilities. the stakes are kinda low for Carlotta where she personally doesnt have much to lose compared to Jinhsi or Shorekeeper who couldve died.
I feel like stakes can't be scaled by the severity. Almost all major story patches in 1.X had the end of the world at stake. None of them felt meaningful or compelling to me. I see what you're saying but so long as she doesn't feel like a Mary Sue, which I don't think she ever crosses that boundary, she's fine.
@@Rednu the scale of a threat isnt necessarily everything that dictates the severity of consequences for a character; it can also depend on what the character values: like a son/daughter to a parent or a lover to their partner. idk its just that the sense of urgency i got from what Jinhsi and Shorekeeper could potentially lose made their arcs more thrilling for me. Im not really asking for global-wide stakes, just a considerable amount and Carlotta kinda fell below that threshold when the story wiped her uncle issue just like that. anyway yea i still think her place and impact in the story is still fine, its just one of those "couldve been better" moments for me.
@@kokoala9354 As to your (and Rednu's) gripe about that specific situation in the main story, it segways into her family affairs in her companion quest. I won't spoil more of that in case you haven't played it since your comment, but they did tie up some loose threads.
i just finished the story, entering 2.0 with low expectations and i was very surprised. very cool areas, good story and characters. there's also many cinematic shots in the cutscenes. carlotta being the female lead in the story but very well written and not over-glazing the rover. she instantly become one of my favorite character in wuwa. then i lose 50/50.. just another day in a gacha game. enjoyed my time.
The great thing about Carlotta is that while her romantic involvement with Rover was done tastefully, she's also the first character to almost openly confess. Thanks for your honest thoughts.
13:25 when it comes to them glancing over freeing Uncle Capollo, I hope you play the Carlotta Companion Quest if you have not already - they touch upon that aspect in there but i dont want to spoil anything :)
Bro, I was stuck on that Maze and had to fight Lifer at 300% buff with 90% damage re3duction until the last 2 fights because i figured out how to remove his buffs. I haven't done main quest yet, i've been exploring. The new flight mechanic is a huge W on this update. the more exploration you complete, the more flight stamina you get
How did you even fight the Lifter without beating him in the chess 😂😂😂😂 I couldn't get him to do anything before removing all of his buffs AND beating him at tic-tac-toe for him to start attacking 😂😂😂
@@Mei-hz5cy i was eating food buff 40% hp increase, and 40% atk dmg buff, and i use bell borne echo on Verina for dmg reduction. My Jinshi was only doing 47k dmg instead of 470k 😭
@@potasticfeii1241 you have to re-arrange the chess board to open the door. Check the machine next to the Lifter, then Try using sensor to identify which door you need to open. There are about 3-4 buffs that can be removed.
i uses the beacon teleporters less because of the flying mechanic it encourages players to enjoy the scenery instead of just teleporting which more games should be doing tbh
Rednu is extremely fair He’s just not super into open world games which is why he prefers zzz I play both too and I prefer wuwa, but I wouldn’t diminish how good zzz is because that would be dishonest, and I still like the game Rednu’s a real one
so far I'm happy that I've come back. As I'm trying to build up my characters, I hope that the time-gated, overworld farming mechanics don't get to me again tho
The exploration is much rewarding now. For music, I love the plushies band it always makes me smile. For VA phenomenal. Characters(design,development, relancy to the story) - 8/10 Jenn English did a good job with Carlotta. It's just sometimes that she's like just reading the script and not acting at all, and since her voice is very soft and husky, it made me fall asleep sometimes.
I'm enjoying the game too. I gave up after pulling for Changli due to poor optimization and release of ZZZ. Add the lack of android support. (Tbh I still have issues even with high-end pc and when I am using it with my Samsung Tablet S9 Ultra but it's more bearable than before) Now, I am not busy with ZZZ coz no content, I tried wuwa and am really enjoying it. Plan to play it as F2P since I am already spending on ZZZ.
I believe that rover have hidden abilty to charm all thing that resonate. For sure that the reason why rover can become friendly or at least become like by any echo or resonator. Otherwise i cant think any other reason why they all become friendly at first met.
But...but i thought wuwa eos'd... Seriously though, this patch was amazing, even with some shortcomings here and there (like echo exp, but i heard that lvl 24 echo drops already have exp for fodder, good start but lets see in a month or so) For me, a solid 8.5/10 My only major gripe at this point are events. I feel like they almost have a good grasp around the game (story, VA direction, music, resonators, gameplay mechanics) but still lack memorable events. WuWa's strongest point for events is Co-op. Imagine coop events like fly racing in Rinascita, hover droid spleef, dodgeball with the levitator gadget, turtle volleyball (this one is kinda out-there). The combat coop event are a good foundation already.
I quit 2 weeks into 1.0 because the story just didn't hook me at all, and a lot of stuff was shallow to me. Watching the 2.0 trailers completely changed my perspective and made me come back. Even tho I loved all of 2.0 ( basically everything done but the high holograms since I'm UL 49) I only didn't like how in the end of act 3, the people in city were just cheering at how we were killing their echoes lol😅, also nobody got hurt ? That was my only issue tbh.
They're not cheering because the rover is killing echoes. They're cheering because they thought it was part of the play. The entire carnivale action sequence is basically violence masked as a performance or play-trope ala Assassin's Creed 2. If you listen to some npc's, there is one where she questions if that part where the sky changes are real but the gullible citizen even said that it's probably not cause it's part of the performance. As for the nobody got hurt, I think they went that way cause the illusion of the attack masked as a performance will be shattered. They almost believed that something was actually wrong when the Narwhal appeared but then the fools were able to prevent destruction so they're back to them with their suspension of disbelief.
@hijodelsoldeoriente yes I know that it was a play set up by the fools and all, but never the less we were killing them and some of them were known by the people and maybe even their pets ( I dont know if they take them to their house or no ) I didn't say that it was a big issue, it is just that it didn't feel right with me and how I understood what was going in the city, I still liked the concept
The main line of the story is really good, but it is too rigid in character building, and there is a lack of interesting interactions and collisions between characters. I don't want to see characters become like that just for the sake of the story, but because they're the kind of people who make the story happen. When creating characters, Wuwa often forgets that they should be like real people.
Great patch all around. Still don't like dialogues and character interactions though. They don't joke around with each other, don't poke, don't bicker, there's no disagreements, no conflict, no banter. I can't describe what kind of relationship there's between most characters like I can in ZZZ, for example. The rest is great.
They're pretty much strangers outside of Roccia and Brant though and the two shows respect and understanding towards each other, I do hope they grow though
@primadansaripudin9269 the only thing is - everyone shows respect and understanding towards each other. And nothing besides that. They all are so polite and proper in every sentence its painful
I think it cuz they bunch of strangers that helping each other and different classes so everyone want to keep it as professionals as possible to keep good impression.
Yeah, 2.0 was great. My only issue was too many filler quest that seemed there to pad the time, and the fact that the Loot-Mapper is locked at the start of the game, making exploring harder.
Yo, you may or may not remember me since you were acting like differently before and now back when I was leaving comments about the unreasonable hate you throw at the game before but I'm glad you enjoy the game 👌 have a great time playing and enjoy the world and all it has to offer there's a lot of stuff.
@Rednu just talking about how your streams before operate with the constant comparisons and throwing shots at a game you clearly don't like before. But appreciate that you still give it a chance 🫡 looking forward to more of your contents from now on ZZZ and WuWa going hard on this updates!
I felt like Ch 5 felt a bit rushed. It could have yapped more about Miyabi, Tailless, and the Hoshimi family. I think more about The Order would have been cool too. Also the difference is like half a point..
Its definitely better than the previous stories but it still suffers from the same issues. Everyone trust the mc and goons over them for no reason...including the bad guys. The story didnt make sense in parts and oh they copied the god beyond the sky like in genshin lol just saying. Edit: i agree with some points...others i dont. Zzz was still better imo as it developed more of the story. In wuwa it didnt really make sense why everyone uses echos in the way they do when they are "bad" etc. As in they just walk around willy nilly etc. The order is obviously evil or bad but we still trust them etc etc
@@ArchAngelKnights the fractsidus right now seems more like antagonists rather than villains so its not necessarily “gooning” over rover we just dont understand the lore behind it all yet
I think you just didnt pay attention to the story or rather play it all when you say why they use echoes, its convinient, the sentinel blessed them with it and echoes were always there, they dont need an ATM cuz it was there for them. And WuWa isnt an inconsistent fantasy land, echoes arent a substitute for technology, they are just there and convenient at times. Also how would you treat God if god were to walk with you, shit on him, have no faith in him when you know who he is, ppl in Rinnascita build their relationship with Rover on a neutral beginning cuz they dont know the Rover and his history of a million year old almost deity
The reason why they have "Common echoes" is because they're pacified by their Sentinel Empirator and they interpreted it as a blessing/gift. It was explained in act I iirc. The Order is obviously bad. For us. But for the people of Ragunna who was brainwashed by the Order, they're not. Things like corrupt religions manipulating their followers is a real thing. Look up Pastor Quiboloy.
Sounds like someone biased towards hoyo games would say. I think it's a "you" issue for the most part. Not saying it's perfect, I have the same criticism like Rednu's and Ethin. but your criticisms imo aren't constructive and are baseless since they're rooted from your misunderstanding of the story and lore.
@orimu836 no i know that. Everyone says I didn't pay attention but I understand they were granted by the sentinel. It just doesn't make sense thatd we'd use them in the way they are or let them walk around especially when some look like they are straight out of nightmares etc. Carlotta trying to get the device to control echos makes more sense
it's really a well thought and well designed update! it deserves its hype
Great review really liked your opinion rednu!! The story pacing improved a lot in my opinion its 8/10
The world design is good, music and characters development is also very good.
This few months gacha game story has been good. from genshin 5.3 natlan ending story , ZZZ epic 1.4 story ,rinascita and soon honkai star rail 3.0 story really looking forward to it.
if u dont know , some area has unique encounter like Knight of the Greed when u try to open a chest , Dragon of Dirge fire over a bridge , 2 Knight fight each other, ..etc . That really cool and it make player want to 100% the map to find more unique stuffs like that .
I did have that event once it was sick
Reframing it as James Bond and his Bond girls kinda makes it a little more palatable for me tbh. Thanks for that. Haha Though I think Solon mentioned in one of the recent interviews that they were gonna try a more ensemble vibe in the future that's less Rover-centric. Intrigued to see how that would look given Rover's role in Solaris-3.
As someone who has just started Wuthering Waves bc it just released on console, I’m excited to hear that this update is good. Hopefully I can catch up to experience it well
@@MyNameIsIisan well u can jump straight into new region after completing huanglong act 3
Take your time and dont rush it. Youll catch up even without rushing and enjoy the game more.
Best thing about that is that you have all the chest loot to grab and have all the rolls for the renacita characters, take it slow if your not rolling for Carlotta and enjoy 1.0 and beyond even if the earlier story is meh, it does pick up ater you finish the first area.
13:50 this part is on Carlotta's companion quest I kinda like it this way instead of explaining what happened they just show it to us via quest. I think that's the right approach, show not tell.
Carlotta new best character. Love everything about her
13:03 yea lol i was like "wait thats it?!". it actually had more impact on my experience with Carlotta in the story in that her involvement ddint feel as thrilling as it couldve been. what i feel Carlotta lacks that some of the female leads in the story like Jinhsi or Shorekeeper have is vulnerabilities. the stakes are kinda low for Carlotta where she personally doesnt have much to lose compared to Jinhsi or Shorekeeper who couldve died.
I feel like stakes can't be scaled by the severity. Almost all major story patches in 1.X had the end of the world at stake. None of them felt meaningful or compelling to me. I see what you're saying but so long as she doesn't feel like a Mary Sue, which I don't think she ever crosses that boundary, she's fine.
@@Rednu the scale of a threat isnt necessarily everything that dictates the severity of consequences for a character; it can also depend on what the character values: like a son/daughter to a parent or a lover to their partner.
idk its just that the sense of urgency i got from what Jinhsi and Shorekeeper could potentially lose made their arcs more thrilling for me. Im not really asking for global-wide stakes, just a considerable amount and Carlotta kinda fell below that threshold when the story wiped her uncle issue just like that.
anyway yea i still think her place and impact in the story is still fine, its just one of those "couldve been better" moments for me.
@@kokoala9354 As to your (and Rednu's) gripe about that specific situation in the main story, it segways into her family affairs in her companion quest. I won't spoil more of that in case you haven't played it since your comment, but they did tie up some loose threads.
i just finished the story, entering 2.0 with low expectations and i was very surprised. very cool areas, good story and characters. there's also many cinematic shots in the cutscenes. carlotta being the female lead in the story but very well written and not over-glazing the rover. she instantly become one of my favorite character in wuwa. then i lose 50/50.. just another day in a gacha game. enjoyed my time.
The great thing about Carlotta is that while her romantic involvement with Rover was done tastefully, she's also the first character to almost openly confess.
Thanks for your honest thoughts.
15:33 the lights in the sky got turned on lol, wuwa 2.0 is such a great breathe of fresh air for the game
13:25 when it comes to them glancing over freeing Uncle Capollo, I hope you play the Carlotta Companion Quest if you have not already - they touch upon that aspect in there but i dont want to spoil anything :)
"godking_aether" says "enjoyed it but not really lived upto the hype" lol.
Lol, don't mind those people
Bro, I was stuck on that Maze and had to fight Lifer at 300% buff with 90% damage re3duction until the last 2 fights because i figured out how to remove his buffs. I haven't done main quest yet, i've been exploring. The new flight mechanic is a huge W on this update. the more exploration you complete, the more flight stamina you get
How did you even fight the Lifter without beating him in the chess 😂😂😂😂
I couldn't get him to do anything before removing all of his buffs AND beating him at tic-tac-toe for him to start attacking 😂😂😂
@@Mei-hz5cy i was eating food buff 40% hp increase, and 40% atk dmg buff, and i use bell borne echo on Verina for dmg reduction. My Jinshi was only doing 47k dmg instead of 470k 😭
@@justanotherguy3294 lol that sounds like a new place for the hardcore players to show off 🤣🤣🤣
Wait you can remove his buffs? How 😭? I have skill issue trying to beat it
@@potasticfeii1241 you have to re-arrange the chess board to open the door. Check the machine next to the Lifter, then Try using sensor to identify which door you need to open. There are about 3-4 buffs that can be removed.
i uses the beacon teleporters less because of the flying mechanic it encourages players to enjoy the scenery instead of just teleporting which more games should be doing tbh
Holy sh1t he say something nice about WuWa
Dude always had his preferences it's just that WuWa hasn't been they way he liked
Rednu is extremely fair
He’s just not super into open world games which is why he prefers zzz
I play both too and I prefer wuwa, but I wouldn’t diminish how good zzz is because that would be dishonest, and I still like the game
Rednu’s a real one
so far I'm happy that I've come back. As I'm trying to build up my characters, I hope that the time-gated, overworld farming mechanics don't get to me again tho
The exploration is much rewarding now. For music, I love the plushies band it always makes me smile.
For VA phenomenal.
Characters(design,development, relancy to the story) - 8/10 Jenn English did a good job with Carlotta. It's just sometimes that she's like just reading the script and not acting at all, and since her voice is very soft and husky, it made me fall asleep sometimes.
I always stop and listen to Plushies Band. The music and catchy and they are so cute. 😂😂
I'm enjoying the game too.
I gave up after pulling for Changli due to poor optimization and release of ZZZ. Add the lack of android support. (Tbh I still have issues even with high-end pc and when I am using it with my Samsung Tablet S9 Ultra but it's more bearable than before)
Now, I am not busy with ZZZ coz no content, I tried wuwa and am really enjoying it.
Plan to play it as F2P since I am already spending on ZZZ.
I believe that rover have hidden abilty to charm all thing that resonate. For sure that the reason why rover can become friendly or at least become like by any echo or resonator. Otherwise i cant think any other reason why they all become friendly at first met.
But...but i thought wuwa eos'd...
Seriously though, this patch was amazing, even with some shortcomings here and there (like echo exp, but i heard that lvl 24 echo drops already have exp for fodder, good start but lets see in a month or so) For me, a solid 8.5/10
My only major gripe at this point are events. I feel like they almost have a good grasp around the game (story, VA direction, music, resonators, gameplay mechanics) but still lack memorable events. WuWa's strongest point for events is Co-op.
Imagine coop events like fly racing in Rinascita, hover droid spleef, dodgeball with the levitator gadget, turtle volleyball (this one is kinda out-there). The combat coop event are a good foundation already.
Eos ?? Nah....if tof is not eos yet...wuwa won't be eos
yeah, events issue seem like cuz KURO trying to catter too much on casuals so everything too easy and too short to make it memorable
The event I've always wanted to come to WuWa is a Windtrace-like event. Imagine the chase with the complex movement Wuwa has. 😋
It is, and Carlotta Story Quest was so amazing, if WuWa ever lets player marry npcs Carlotta would be my choice with no doubt
Bluenu should come out when his reviews are satisfactory
do you still wanna play zzz rednu excited to see what patch 2.0 has in store there
Of course
I quit 2 weeks into 1.0 because the story just didn't hook me at all, and a lot of stuff was shallow to me. Watching the 2.0 trailers completely changed my perspective and made me come back. Even tho I loved all of 2.0 ( basically everything done but the high holograms since I'm UL 49) I only didn't like how in the end of act 3, the people in city were just cheering at how we were killing their echoes lol😅, also nobody got hurt ? That was my only issue tbh.
They're not cheering because the rover is killing echoes. They're cheering because they thought it was part of the play. The entire carnivale action sequence is basically violence masked as a performance or play-trope ala Assassin's Creed 2. If you listen to some npc's, there is one where she questions if that part where the sky changes are real but the gullible citizen even said that it's probably not cause it's part of the performance.
As for the nobody got hurt, I think they went that way cause the illusion of the attack masked as a performance will be shattered. They almost believed that something was actually wrong when the Narwhal appeared but then the fools were able to prevent destruction so they're back to them with their suspension of disbelief.
@hijodelsoldeoriente yes I know that it was a play set up by the fools and all, but never the less we were killing them and some of them were known by the people and maybe even their pets ( I dont know if they take them to their house or no ) I didn't say that it was a big issue, it is just that it didn't feel right with me and how I understood what was going in the city, I still liked the concept
I dont care about the story, but the story did improve (Act1)
I LOVE THE ENVIRONMENT.
Damn your chat in the video are such a genshin shills.
But comparing 1.0 vs 2.0 Its like a completely new game
it was fun this update ngl
The main line of the story is really good, but it is too rigid in character building, and there is a lack of interesting interactions and collisions between characters. I don't want to see characters become like that just for the sake of the story, but because they're the kind of people who make the story happen. When creating characters, Wuwa often forgets that they should be like real people.
Great patch all around. Still don't like dialogues and character interactions though. They don't joke around with each other, don't poke, don't bicker, there's no disagreements, no conflict, no banter. I can't describe what kind of relationship there's between most characters like I can in ZZZ, for example. The rest is great.
They're pretty much strangers outside of Roccia and Brant though and the two shows respect and understanding towards each other, I do hope they grow though
@primadansaripudin9269 the only thing is - everyone shows respect and understanding towards each other. And nothing besides that. They all are so polite and proper in every sentence its painful
If I want to nitpick there is banter between Roccia and Brant. And Zani who doesn't like being derailed.
I think it cuz they bunch of strangers that helping each other and different classes so everyone want to keep it as professionals as possible to keep good impression.
So basically how normal people interact with each other in life ?
🎉
Yeah, 2.0 was great. My only issue was too many filler quest that seemed there to pad the time, and the fact that the Loot-Mapper is locked at the start of the game, making exploring harder.
[SPOILER ALERT]
In Carlotta's companion quest, the uncle being held by the Order stuff is directly addressed btw
Yo, you may or may not remember me since you were acting like differently before and now back when I was leaving comments about the unreasonable hate you throw at the game before but I'm glad you enjoy the game 👌 have a great time playing and enjoy the world and all it has to offer there's a lot of stuff.
I wasn't unreasonable. The game before 2.0 wasn't good enough for me. I maintain that position. I appreciate the good will though!
@Rednu just talking about how your streams before operate with the constant comparisons and throwing shots at a game you clearly don't like before. But appreciate that you still give it a chance 🫡 looking forward to more of your contents from now on ZZZ and WuWa going hard on this updates!
giving this story higher rating than zzz ch 5 is criminal
I felt like Ch 5 felt a bit rushed. It could have yapped more about Miyabi, Tailless, and the Hoshimi family. I think more about The Order would have been cool too.
Also the difference is like half a point..
Its definitely better than the previous stories but it still suffers from the same issues. Everyone trust the mc and goons over them for no reason...including the bad guys. The story didnt make sense in parts and oh they copied the god beyond the sky like in genshin lol just saying.
Edit: i agree with some points...others i dont. Zzz was still better imo as it developed more of the story. In wuwa it didnt really make sense why everyone uses echos in the way they do when they are "bad" etc. As in they just walk around willy nilly etc. The order is obviously evil or bad but we still trust them etc etc
@@ArchAngelKnights the fractsidus right now seems more like antagonists rather than villains so its not necessarily “gooning” over rover we just dont understand the lore behind it all yet
I think you just didnt pay attention to the story or rather play it all when you say why they use echoes, its convinient, the sentinel blessed them with it and echoes were always there, they dont need an ATM cuz it was there for them. And WuWa isnt an inconsistent fantasy land, echoes arent a substitute for technology, they are just there and convenient at times. Also how would you treat God if god were to walk with you, shit on him, have no faith in him when you know who he is, ppl in Rinnascita build their relationship with Rover on a neutral beginning cuz they dont know the Rover and his history of a million year old almost deity
The reason why they have "Common echoes" is because they're pacified by their Sentinel Empirator and they interpreted it as a blessing/gift. It was explained in act I iirc. The Order is obviously bad. For us. But for the people of Ragunna who was brainwashed by the Order, they're not. Things like corrupt religions manipulating their followers is a real thing. Look up Pastor Quiboloy.
Sounds like someone biased towards hoyo games would say. I think it's a "you" issue for the most part. Not saying it's perfect, I have the same criticism like Rednu's and Ethin. but your criticisms imo aren't constructive and are baseless since they're rooted from your misunderstanding of the story and lore.
@orimu836 no i know that. Everyone says I didn't pay attention but I understand they were granted by the sentinel. It just doesn't make sense thatd we'd use them in the way they are or let them walk around especially when some look like they are straight out of nightmares etc. Carlotta trying to get the device to control echos makes more sense