Changli Main here. 110 ER is kinda low. At 120, it's a comfy stopping point for someone who's not trying to invest all their material into Changli. However, at 130+, she begins to feel extremely smooth with her Liberation uptime.
let me add a bit onto this. Any char with a synergical team, you should aim to have 115 to 120 ER. XY needs 120, jiyan and encore too, camellya as well. But mdps like changli, carlotta need more er especially a char like changli whose whole damage depends on ult forte ult and switch to another dps since she can currently be best used as second dps. Carlotta, if you have zhezhi (I wish I spelled it right) you don't need anymore than 120 but if you don't have it then you in for a rough one because her damage is all from liberation and skill along with forte, basically a upgraded and buffed glacio changli with single enemy focused kit.
There might be more of us when more people catch on to the Carlotta/Changli quick swap team😏👌🏽 Has to be the most fun team I've played and one of the most effective. I need more ER on both to smooth out my rotation tho, but I just happened to have enough energy during a boss fight to see the proper rotation I'll want, and it just felt so satisfying. Also quick swapping into changli skill is so great for parrys😊
I'm trying the new echo sonata set of the white blue-eyed dragon with Encore. It seems tailored specifically for her. As soon as I build Carlota, will try that...
What I like with Saintontas before his face reveal was his documentary style guides, after the face reveal and his tectone collab he kinda does the twitch meta farming right now, firing shots with fob, reacting here and there, baiting here and there, trying to fire shots on genshin here and there maybe get some friction going He got his own style before, but I can't blame him for chasing numbers, in games and in real life you win by efficiency
The New Nightmare ECHOES are just a Great Upgrade To the normal Ones and are pretty useful for many Characters... I love That they changed most of how The Echo Works compared to its predecessors 🔥
@@abra2133 heron has been good from start, wdym? Well if you mean the havoc set it is in now, that's roccia's signature set so it won't do shit for dps.
@justwhy2256 its probably a pretty negligible difference so just use whatever has the best substats. If you have no glacio 3 costs to raise theres nothing wrong with raising atk% Make sure you dont use double atk 3 cost tho.
i'm using the nightmare echo on my jiyan and yao , i can confirm they are better and ezy to cordinate in attacks... highly suggest using them , those echos really buff the dmg and overall rotation.... ❤🔥
It's always good to learn something new, I've been using 2 havoc dmg on my Camellya with her signature weapon. I'm pretty much a dumbass at doing damage calculations and stuff so I just go with the first 2 people say on their guides but usually they don't elaborate on a further explanation
22:36 I think Glacio dmg bonus is still better for zhezhi because zhezhis base attack is low and the coordinated dmg bonus multiplies your whole dmg with echoes
21:20 If I’m not mistaken, switching from 2x Glacio 3-cost to 1 Glacio 1 Atk% is NOT just half a percent, I saw a video where someone’s Liberation nuke went from 600k to 750k at S2
I feel this they screwing me on her ER. They gotta tease me got her 70%CR and 303%CD but not a single ER substat so her rotations feel clunky ASF right now😭
So i Just wanna ask, What about Jyian - Mortefi (Empyrean Anthem set) - Youhu (Her outro skill give you 100% Coordinate DMG buff) Is it good? Because Mortefi Liberation is based on Coordinate attack and it have coordination with Jyians Heavy attacks. Idk what is better. Classic Jyian team or this double hybrit dps Team with blue-haired lolicon.
so is better better yinlin with empyrean anthem than void thunder with the new nightmare thundering memphis? I use her as a quickswap dps rather than buffer in the yao team, with in mind is empyrean anthem still better?
Could we get a guide that's your style and not a reaction? I've enjoyed your other react content to fun stuff but I'm sure many consider your commentary on wuwa as one of the best out there.
im always so confused when you guys are talking about energy regen. when ur discussing it for example, are you saying the build needs to get +160% energy and fit it in your build for a total of 260 if 100 is base, or are you saying you need 160% in total for whatever to work?
You said, If you have a Well-Invested Yinlin, Empyrean Anthem Set is Good for her; Do you mean a S6 Yinlin with an R5 StringMaster? Currently, My Yinlin is S0 with a R2 StringMaster; So Farming Empyrean Anthem is not good?
The only use for Yuanwu i found, where is is literally the OPest character imo, even tho his start is slow.... is the Dream content. Yes, he gets so many buffs and he is literally unkillable at the end. He CANNOT die. Because he has like billion shields Also thanks for the Atk% 3-cost recommendations, I will lock them and level them
Saint, i did some calculations, and for camellya sub dps, the midnight veil is worse or comparable at best to the moonlit. I calculated with roccia and the heron + moonlit buff gives 45k more (773k) dmg for ephemeral rotation in comparison to midnight veil (728k) And the midnight veil buffs for roccia herself barely scratch 30k Important question is if old impermanence heron slows rotation down enough to bridge that gap Just wondering if you'll test that when roccia comes out
Changli ER is very dependent on her team. with Zhezhi outro giving energy she actually is playable with 0 ER. Its not "more ER equals more liberations" because if you liberation early you are losing forte's, you're limited by her skill CD more than her liberation CD or energy because she wants as many true strikes as possible to build up fortes.
if its something i never can wrap my head around is how much ER or crit certain characters need. and how to best figure that process out when its a new character. i hope you do a deeper dive on the stats
Basically ppl use characters like sanhua and yangyang(who can lib on intro) as the main baseline, because they both have the lowest cost lib in the game(100 iirc), so when you check the lib cost of other characters you wanna see how much their intro gives, and how much the skills give etc etc, and measure how much you'd do to get libs happening right off cooldown, hence the requirement for a certain amount of ER
New player here. How do different sources of %dmg bonuses interact with each other in this game ? The new coordinated atk echo set gives 80% boost so is it worth even building %dmg on your 3 costs instead of atk if all you care about is boosting said dmg ? The answer is probably yes until you factor in that ONLY coordinated atks get buffed and nothing else from the charakters kit like skill and liberation dmg , intro or outro dmg , which would benefit from 3 cost %dmg echos still. Maybe you only build 1 atk and still leave 1 dmg% 3 on your 3 cost to get the best of both worlds?
From the 1st generation batch of echoes, the best one is to acquire the %dmg bonuses on both 3 costs, it had been proven and tested by leveling up the echoes and not tuning them, comparing just the main stats. It is pretty hard to calc. when the sources of damage are depending on the rolls bec. there are too many that u can acquire like basic ATK, res. skill and lib . But with the 1 ATK and a %dmg with the new echo is the best way to go, to lessen the diminishing return. And it is worth building if ur dedicated enough to build them for ur primary dmg dealer. Like for myself, I have an already built Yinlin on Void thunder both electro 3 cost with 88/275 ratio and 129 ER, so I'm still considering on going for the new echo if it's worth the waveplate since I already have Carlotta (spending them seperately) So ye an ATK and %dmg for 3 costs is the safest and more easier route to take But if u still want an in depth calcs. and TC, u can check out Mayagi, like she shares her excels and stuff, but pardon for her pronounciation coz she has lisp
i had carlotta 110 er and my sub dps was sanhua. She almost aways uses her ult on every rotation on 110 er. (carlotta) I would reccomend a little bit more than 110 just so you are guaranteed to get ult literally every time
I'm playing wuwa while watching this and as soon as the camellya chapter came on and you said "110% is way too low" I look at my camellya and she has 110.8% 😭 kill me now
genuinely asking saint, is atk 3-cost going to be better for empyrean zhezhi? since looking at her coordinated attack is dealing Glacio dmg, considered as basic attack dmg.
hello, new player here, recently reached level 35 and I want to know if I should start using the thing that given 60 waveplates, or when I should use them. I started getting 5* echos recently but haven't found any nightmare echos so please tell me when I can get them, building Camellia(in case anyone's wondering why I have Camellia despite being new is because I got her by downloading the game in my phone as I wanted her, then deleted because I was waiting to get a pc and now I do, yaaaay)
I don't have a single character fully built in terms of echos cuz my crit luck is historically bad been farming for Carlotta set since it came out and still got nothing so far
yes, mr saintontas, changli does like ER, but it's not tooo much of a requirement. you want it high enough but not shorekeeper high so like 140-150 if you can, but 130 should be good.
Yeah she doesn't need that much. If you know how to play her and do her rotations you can get away with 115-120% I'm not sure what these people are talking about.@@zippo718
@@zippo718 yeah true enough. but if you want her to be popping liberation at every chance she can get, then 130 should be good for that. mine's got 139 while still having pretty good stats otherwise
currently have 80+ pulls, saving for zani after should i pull for zhezhi (50/50) or pull for jinshi sig. weap? (using BP weap) aside from sk/veri the only sub dps/supp i have is yinlin, but she keeps jumping between XLY team and jinshi (incandes. gain from coord) my carlotta team does not have that certain role, i know i can use TQ but her rotation is kinda slow
if you happen to have changli you can try to use carlotta quickswap team, there's some people that really like yuanwu for carlotta as well. for jinhsi her own weapon is a really big spike in damage id reccomend grabbing it
I don’t like that there isn’t numbers for how much Crit rate or damage you should have for a character. It’s hard to make sure you’re not going over on rate if there’s some kind of bonus in the kit. I don’t know what the optimal numbers are that are realistic
Are you going to keep glazing WuWa but not call out the change to middle tower buff? Because I remember you specifically defending that Tower is not bad because of the general attribute buff which is now gone - like it's hard to take your takes seriously if you don't call out the bad with the good
what's this voice of Var's low tone and i can't hear his voice at all...why can't be his voice be like Brax ahahahaha, feels like his reading some script lol
Bro, the only 3cost Frosty echo I drop is the stupid white bear plushie and I already use him as my main GlacioDMG% that's godlike, fking hell, I CANT DROP ATK% ON OTHER 3COSTSSSSSSSSS annoying
i honestly for the love of god hate these titles you and tectone do it’s so annoying that being said thank you for atleast putting input into the video and not being bland happy for when you drop your echo video
He's good but very difficult to play for new players due to the "my face is my shield" play style of his and he also desperately needs resistance to interruption buff, hope kuro give him a 'leap' to gen 2 once the New Federation update comes. But if you want to master his skill set now then you can watch either Rexlent, Wallenstein or Morment
Empyrean its not that good on yinlin, i just like it when you just fight a boss in tower, but when you need to kill adds before boss you dont have the buff i think moonlit cloud is a lot easier
Can someone tell me why double type % is better than type + atk on 3 cost unless you have their signature. I remember seeing this months ago at the start as a topic but it’s been so long and I stopped playing so I’ve forgotten and it seems every fucking video now just glosses over it and I’m a dickhead who needs to know for himself the reasoning not just “it’s a marginal difference” I can’t take your advice if I myself don’t understand WHY. Even just post a link to a vid I can watch cos I can’t find shit and I’m not in the comm algorithm long enough to know whos reliable besides Tontas and smack and even then I CANT FIND THEIR VIDEOS ITS JUST 5-10k view vids on the NEW sets with nothing older than 2 months.
Yea won’t lie this video is pointless your basically just playing smb elses video and commenting on it he said himself it was a quick overview so there’s no point in correcting him or commenting on y he doesn’t include smaller details would’ve been better if you just made your own video and guide on each character seeing as how u have a lot more insight on how each character should or could be built
Considering Zhezhi is now pulled to Carlotta teams, Yuanwu becomes Jinhsi's best sub-dps again, with Verina as healer. Spectro Rover buffing dmg might work too, but the lack of coordinated attacks hurts a ton.
Spectro Rover needs Spectro Amplification outro buff that Spectro frazzles not that much damage with Res Skill/Lib and then the Echo. Maybe becuz mines 5/10 skill tree i guess
I'm not near my game atm, but I think the 6th waveband gives spectro shred? It's a different modifier in the equation so it's a bigger buff than it sounds, but probably doesn't equal a coordinated attacker subdps.
I believe Phoebe will go perfectly with Spectro Rover. Leaks indicate she will be another Spectro DPS so I assume the new Spectro echo set will compliment her and rover
I'm ok with not needing to farm new echoes, I just want fun ones like ones that could help you parry or make you float or something, would make it more interesting imo to just have those instead of "more damage" types.
I want them to add a concerto set that only gives you more concerto and no buffs or just buff the character that is using the set so that characters that take a long to build concerto are more viable like taoqi
Or actually change the Tidebreaking set to: Tidebreaking Courage 2-Pc: Energy Regen + 10% 5-Pc: Increase the Resonator's ATK by 15%. Reaching 250% Energy Regen increases all Attribute DMG by 30% for the Resonator and gain +30 concerto upon Liberation cast.
I clicked here expecting to see a Saintontas guide, but instead it's just a reaction
Yeah. Kinda díssapointing
Technically it still a guide, he reacted to another video while making corrections and explaining his points
@@PrestusHood yeah but its not quite the quality im looking for in a saintontas video. Still helpful though
i feel like most of the recent video are now react content
I don't mind react content
Changli Main here. 110 ER is kinda low. At 120, it's a comfy stopping point for someone who's not trying to invest all their material into Changli. However, at 130+, she begins to feel extremely smooth with her Liberation uptime.
let me add a bit onto this. Any char with a synergical team, you should aim to have 115 to 120 ER. XY needs 120, jiyan and encore too, camellya as well. But mdps like changli, carlotta need more er especially a char like changli whose whole damage depends on ult forte ult and switch to another dps since she can currently be best used as second dps. Carlotta, if you have zhezhi (I wish I spelled it right) you don't need anymore than 120 but if you don't have it then you in for a rough one because her damage is all from liberation and skill along with forte, basically a upgraded and buffed glacio changli with single enemy focused kit.
My favorite Changli team is Yangyang + Changli, it's so much fun with aerial acrobatics and so many quick swap ults for Changli
I have 108er on my changli and she feels comfortable for me to use
As one of those 3 Changli mains, _yes._ She does feel way better with more energy.
There might be more of us when more people catch on to the Carlotta/Changli quick swap team😏👌🏽 Has to be the most fun team I've played and one of the most effective. I need more ER on both to smooth out my rotation tho, but I just happened to have enough energy during a boss fight to see the proper rotation I'll want, and it just felt so satisfying. Also quick swapping into changli skill is so great for parrys😊
Are we really pretending that Changli is unpopular? lmao
Can confirm
@@tetraavalon3664he's just playing into the joke because Saint dislikes Changli and knows almost nothing about her 😂
@@dtariushale2511 I'm already rocking HARD with Carlotta and Changli on both my team and the Folders on my Laptop lol.
12:07
> When you don't have a lot and have like 70/270
I wish I had that on all characters💀
I'm trying the new echo sonata set of the white blue-eyed dragon with Encore. It seems tailored specifically for her. As soon as I build Carlota, will try that...
Thank you Saint for finally answering how Moonlit vs. the Coordinated set work on Yinlin 🙏
Saint: Shorekeeper-230% with The Fallacy, 240% with the Bellbourne
Me with my 277%ER Shorekeeper: 👀
What I like with Saintontas before his face reveal was his documentary style guides, after the face reveal and his tectone collab he kinda does the twitch meta farming right now, firing shots with fob, reacting here and there, baiting here and there, trying to fire shots on genshin here and there maybe get some friction going
He got his own style before, but I can't blame him for chasing numbers, in games and in real life you win by efficiency
making guides ain't paying bills lol. as long as his content is diverse enough it's fine
The New Nightmare ECHOES are just a Great Upgrade To the normal Ones and are pretty useful for many Characters... I love That they changed most of how The Echo Works compared to its predecessors 🔥
Except impermanence heron ;-;
@@abra2133 heron has been good from start, wdym? Well if you mean the havoc set it is in now, that's roccia's signature set so it won't do shit for dps.
Thank you for letting me know about how you can have one 3 cost attack echo, i have spent so long trying to get a second glacio echo.
In general, if a dps has a lot of % dmg from talents, support buffs, and sig weapon, you can go at least 1 ATK.
@@zippo718 But is ATK% better?I'm building my charlotta right now
@@zippo718true that’s what I did with my Changli
@@zippo718 yeah it's just what's the threshold of too much dmg% to consider taking 1 atk cost 3?
@justwhy2256 its probably a pretty negligible difference so just use whatever has the best substats.
If you have no glacio 3 costs to raise theres nothing wrong with raising atk%
Make sure you dont use double atk 3 cost tho.
watching this feels like seeing my lecturer reading my thesis
i'm using the nightmare echo on my jiyan and yao , i can confirm they are better and ezy to cordinate in attacks... highly suggest using them , those echos really buff the dmg and overall rotation.... ❤🔥
oohh that's good to know cause I also use Jiyan and Yao!
It's always good to learn something new, I've been using 2 havoc dmg on my Camellya with her signature weapon. I'm pretty much a dumbass at doing damage calculations and stuff so I just go with the first 2 people say on their guides but usually they don't elaborate on a further explanation
The Dance Dance Chelinian song always takes me by surprise and I love it!
22:36 I think Glacio dmg bonus is still better for zhezhi because zhezhis base attack is low and the coordinated dmg bonus multiplies your whole dmg with echoes
Can that sleep-inducing voice of VARS be redeemed this 202...zzzzzz
21:20 If I’m not mistaken, switching from 2x Glacio 3-cost to 1 Glacio 1 Atk% is NOT just half a percent, I saw a video where someone’s Liberation nuke went from 600k to 750k at S2
I think 120 is minimum for carlotta if you don't have zhezhi, 110 is not enough for every rotation
I feel this they screwing me on her ER. They gotta tease me got her 70%CR and 303%CD but not a single ER substat so her rotations feel clunky ASF right now😭
@@dtariushale2511consooooom the ER foods
What about tidebreak courage
This video was clickbait because I thought it was a guide video.
Please build spectro rover mr saint
So i Just wanna ask, What about Jyian - Mortefi (Empyrean Anthem set) - Youhu (Her outro skill give you 100% Coordinate DMG buff) Is it good? Because Mortefi Liberation is based on Coordinate attack and it have coordination with Jyians Heavy attacks. Idk what is better. Classic Jyian team or this double hybrit dps Team with blue-haired lolicon.
Damn, I might actually go ahead and build Spectro Rover!
so is better better yinlin with empyrean anthem than void thunder with the new nightmare thundering memphis? I use her as a quickswap dps rather than buffer in the yao team, with in mind is empyrean anthem still better?
Could we get a guide that's your style and not a reaction?
I've enjoyed your other react content to fun stuff but I'm sure many consider your commentary on wuwa as one of the best out there.
Also, I can't stand this guy personally due to his monotone voice and mumbling his words together.
But my views stay the same for any guide reaction
im always so confused when you guys are talking about energy regen. when ur discussing it for example, are you saying the build needs to get +160% energy and fit it in your build for a total of 260 if 100 is base, or are you saying you need 160% in total for whatever to work?
You said, If you have a Well-Invested Yinlin, Empyrean Anthem Set is Good for her; Do you mean a S6 Yinlin with an R5 StringMaster? Currently, My Yinlin is S0 with a R2 StringMaster; So Farming Empyrean Anthem is not good?
The only use for Yuanwu i found, where is is literally the OPest character imo, even tho his start is slow.... is the Dream content. Yes, he gets so many buffs and he is literally unkillable at the end. He CANNOT die. Because he has like billion shields
Also thanks for the Atk% 3-cost recommendations, I will lock them and level them
Saint, i did some calculations, and for camellya sub dps, the midnight veil is worse or comparable at best to the moonlit. I calculated with roccia and the heron + moonlit buff gives 45k more (773k) dmg for ephemeral rotation in comparison to midnight veil (728k)
And the midnight veil buffs for roccia herself barely scratch 30k
Important question is if old impermanence heron slows rotation down enough to bridge that gap
Just wondering if you'll test that when roccia comes out
Changli ER is very dependent on her team. with Zhezhi outro giving energy she actually is playable with 0 ER. Its not "more ER equals more liberations" because if you liberation early you are losing forte's, you're limited by her skill CD more than her liberation CD or energy because she wants as many true strikes as possible to build up fortes.
Here comes Mr. Smarty-Pants to be a debby downer at the party
I main changli and Chixia broo 😭 you don't need that much ER.
The thing I hate about the video is that Vars sounds like he's eating his mic. Other than that, solid vid.
if its something i never can wrap my head around is how much ER or crit certain characters need. and how to best figure that process out when its a new character. i hope you do a deeper dive on the stats
Basically ppl use characters like sanhua and yangyang(who can lib on intro) as the main baseline, because they both have the lowest cost lib in the game(100 iirc), so when you check the lib cost of other characters you wanna see how much their intro gives, and how much the skills give etc etc, and measure how much you'd do to get libs happening right off cooldown, hence the requirement for a certain amount of ER
You can get 12+ er per echo so if you have 5 god roll echos you can get 160 er on lumi
That was good infothanks
Has anyone tested 44111 with double crit dmg (assuming you have genesis, stringless, or mist) for the emyprean set?
New player here. How do different sources of %dmg bonuses interact with each other in this game ? The new coordinated atk echo set gives 80% boost so is it worth even building %dmg on your 3 costs instead of atk if all you care about is boosting said dmg ? The answer is probably yes until you factor in that ONLY coordinated atks get buffed and nothing else from the charakters kit like skill and liberation dmg , intro or outro dmg , which would benefit from 3 cost %dmg echos still. Maybe you only build 1 atk and still leave 1 dmg% 3 on your 3 cost to get the best of both worlds?
From the 1st generation batch of echoes, the best one is to acquire the %dmg bonuses on both 3 costs, it had been proven and tested by leveling up the echoes and not tuning them, comparing just the main stats. It is pretty hard to calc. when the sources of damage are depending on the rolls bec. there are too many that u can acquire like basic ATK, res. skill and lib . But with the 1 ATK and a %dmg with the new echo is the best way to go, to lessen the diminishing return. And it is worth building if ur dedicated enough to build them for ur primary dmg dealer. Like for myself, I have an already built Yinlin on Void thunder both electro 3 cost with 88/275 ratio and 129 ER, so I'm still considering on going for the new echo if it's worth the waveplate since I already have Carlotta (spending them seperately)
So ye an ATK and %dmg for 3 costs is the safest and more easier route to take
But if u still want an in depth calcs. and TC, u can check out Mayagi, like she shares her excels and stuff, but pardon for her pronounciation coz she has lisp
@araara6673 ty man appreciate it.
i had carlotta 110 er and my sub dps was sanhua. She almost aways uses her ult on every rotation on 110 er. (carlotta) I would reccomend a little bit more than 110 just so you are guaranteed to get ult literally every time
Ye i had 106% er om mine i was barely hitting that ult but then i changed it to 122% now her ult is always ready in each of rotation
I was hesitant on the Anthem set for my Yinlin… I have her sig but I’m gonna keep her on Moonlit until I get a decent Anthem set.
I'm playing wuwa while watching this and as soon as the camellya chapter came on and you said "110% is way too low" I look at my camellya and she has 110.8% 😭 kill me now
genuinely asking saint, is atk 3-cost going to be better for empyrean zhezhi? since looking at her coordinated attack is dealing Glacio dmg, considered as basic attack dmg.
hello, new player here, recently reached level 35 and I want to know if I should start using the thing that given 60 waveplates, or when I should use them. I started getting 5* echos recently but haven't found any nightmare echos so please tell me when I can get them, building Camellia(in case anyone's wondering why I have Camellia despite being new is because I got her by downloading the game in my phone as I wanted her, then deleted because I was waiting to get a pc and now I do, yaaaay)
I don't have a single character fully built in terms of echos cuz my crit luck is historically bad been farming for Carlotta set since it came out and still got nothing so far
Same getting double crit is impossible for me. Though my wishing luck is good
My whatever random bullshit echo that get me that 70/270+ for solo run toa cause I’m broke af and have to save healer for the last floor.
:👁️👄👁️
bro i can only do 18/30 not gonna try hard
No pressure to do it really, its like 1-2 pulls you're not getting at all its really not that significant
Oh wow. I may gotta try out the set on my Yinlin then. Got her to S2 R1 recently
yes, mr saintontas, changli does like ER, but it's not tooo much of a requirement. you want it high enough but not shorekeeper high so like 140-150 if you can, but 130 should be good.
130 is already higher than most dps and something you have to specifically roll for beyond just double crit.
Yeah she doesn't need that much. If you know how to play her and do her rotations you can get away with 115-120% I'm not sure what these people are talking about.@@zippo718
@@zippo718 yeah true enough. but if you want her to be popping liberation at every chance she can get, then 130 should be good for that. mine's got 139 while still having pretty good stats otherwise
currently have 80+ pulls, saving for zani after
should i pull for zhezhi (50/50)
or
pull for jinshi sig. weap? (using BP weap)
aside from sk/veri
the only sub dps/supp i have is yinlin, but she keeps jumping between XLY team and jinshi (incandes. gain from coord)
my carlotta team does not have that certain role, i know i can use TQ but her rotation is kinda slow
if you happen to have changli you can try to use carlotta quickswap team, there's some people that really like yuanwu for carlotta as well. for jinhsi her own weapon is a really big spike in damage id reccomend grabbing it
The new set like that ice spectro n havoc is ok to go atk/atk or element/atk for 3 cost?
was expecting a "build ruins unit" title
I don’t like that there isn’t numbers for how much Crit rate or damage you should have for a character. It’s hard to make sure you’re not going over on rate if there’s some kind of bonus in the kit. I don’t know what the optimal numbers are that are realistic
You go Glacio/Glacio on ZheZhi or Glacio/ER?
unrelated but should i go for zhezhi or carlottas weapon?
zhezhi
@@edgarz584 zhezhi is ugly tho
Weapon unless you have the standard pistol. If you have static mist for for zhezhi
Are you going to keep glazing WuWa but not call out the change to middle tower buff? Because I remember you specifically defending that Tower is not bad because of the general attribute buff which is now gone - like it's hard to take your takes seriously if you don't call out the bad with the good
Just give feedback to devs. Im sure they will change it back if enough people report it
Lmfao, bro it's not that deep. Touch grass 😂 fuckin nerds. ☝🏻🤓
If you can't defeat it with a 10% res disadvantage, I think you need better echoes and a bit more skill ngl.
that shit tedious
tbf, i didn’t even realize that this was a problem
what's this voice of Var's low tone and i can't hear his voice at all...why can't be his voice be like Brax ahahahaha, feels like his reading some script lol
Holy shit dude, me too. There's something about the way he talks/his mic that just makes him so hard to understand for me LOL
My luck on 4 costs was crazy from launch to 1.4... the rest? Eh. We will see if i can get nightmares on par for jinshi and camellya
damn, im free to play and my carlotta ER = 163 cause without zezhi lol instead double dps with havoc rover
sadly still dont have the signature weapon
Bro, the only 3cost Frosty echo I drop is the stupid white bear plushie and I already use him as my main GlacioDMG% that's godlike, fking hell, I CANT DROP ATK% ON OTHER 3COSTSSSSSSSSS annoying
i honestly for the love of god hate these titles you and tectone do it’s so annoying that being said thank you for atleast putting input into the video and not being bland happy for when you drop your echo video
I have Spectro Dmg Bonus on Shorekeeper... (She hits 11k on her enhanced intro)
Is it 1 spectro piece and 1 er piece?
@amari7782 yep 🙂 and she does meet er requirements
@ ahh ok
@amari7782 Just realised I put 110k it was 11k per on Fallacy... My bad- and 15k*3 on Inferno Rider
@ not gonna lie i didn’t even notice so you good XD
nice vid. hopefully i can get a crit rate nm rider so i can amp changli dps
25:44 This is a gem
wait, is havoc%/atk% actually better for Camellya???
I though 2 havoc was better but I've also seen Danjin and Sanhua use 1 Glacio/Atk
you always want an element% but the 2nd echo is whatever rolls better stats, so atk% can work
If she has sig, yes. If not then 2 havoc bonus
I just got calcharo is good dps?
He's not
He's good but very difficult to play for new players due to the "my face is my shield" play style of his and he also desperately needs resistance to interruption buff, hope kuro give him a 'leap' to gen 2 once the New Federation update comes. But if you want to master his skill set now then you can watch either Rexlent, Wallenstein or Morment
As a changli main you’d prolly want around 125% er
Empyrean its not that good on yinlin, i just like it when you just fight a boss in tower, but when you need to kill adds before boss you dont have the buff i think moonlit cloud is a lot easier
Saint is reacting to the video I suggested ❤❤❤❤❤
Guysssss, the tower is getting harder or my skill issues are devloping!!????
It got a bit harder this time for most casuals.
So confusing just put both numbers and differences side by side comparing
I was expecting a guide. A bit disappointed.
Also, I'm amazed Satantontas was not present considering how much he disagreed.
No more war 🫂
First minute is crazy
Vars 2 jumpscare 😱
I was hoping for dragon of dirge with tidebreaker set but it seems is really ussles now
Can someone tell me why double type % is better than type + atk on 3 cost unless you have their signature. I remember seeing this months ago at the start as a topic but it’s been so long and I stopped playing so I’ve forgotten and it seems every fucking video now just glosses over it and I’m a dickhead who needs to know for himself the reasoning not just “it’s a marginal difference” I can’t take your advice if I myself don’t understand WHY. Even just post a link to a vid I can watch cos I can’t find shit and I’m not in the comm algorithm long enough to know whos reliable besides Tontas and smack and even then I CANT FIND THEIR VIDEOS ITS JUST 5-10k view vids on the NEW sets with nothing older than 2 months.
carlotta with zhezhi is 110 er is enough
Early to santatotas 💀🔥
Para mim Taoqi é só defesa e mais defesa, aumenta só o Forte. Ela acaba tendo o mesmo defeito do Yanwu com dano negativo.
Tbh I really feel like Yuanwu is a wasted character.
12:20 if your yingling isnt dog shit yhe set is much better
Me doing the new other er set for s6 yangyang...
Yea won’t lie this video is pointless your basically just playing smb elses video and commenting on it he said himself it was a quick overview so there’s no point in correcting him or commenting on y he doesn’t include smaller details would’ve been better if you just made your own video and guide on each character seeing as how u have a lot more insight on how each character should or could be built
Considering Zhezhi is now pulled to Carlotta teams, Yuanwu becomes Jinhsi's best sub-dps again, with Verina as healer. Spectro Rover buffing dmg might work too, but the lack of coordinated attacks hurts a ton.
Spectro Rover needs Spectro Amplification outro buff that Spectro frazzles not that much damage with Res Skill/Lib and then the Echo. Maybe becuz mines 5/10 skill tree i guess
I'm not near my game atm, but I think the 6th waveband gives spectro shred? It's a different modifier in the equation so it's a bigger buff than it sounds, but probably doesn't equal a coordinated attacker subdps.
I believe Phoebe will go perfectly with Spectro Rover. Leaks indicate she will be another Spectro DPS so I assume the new Spectro echo set will compliment her and rover
Absolute Mamma Mia
I'm ok with not needing to farm new echoes, I just want fun ones like ones that could help you parry or make you float or something, would make it more interesting imo to just have those instead of "more damage" types.
I want them to add a concerto set that only gives you more concerto and no buffs or just buff the character that is using the set so that characters that take a long to build concerto are more viable like taoqi
No buffs as in like how the moonlit clouds boost other characters on outro
Or actually change the Tidebreaking set to: Tidebreaking Courage
2-Pc: Energy Regen + 10%
5-Pc: Increase the Resonator's ATK by 15%. Reaching 250% Energy Regen increases all Attribute DMG by 30% for the Resonator and gain +30 concerto upon Liberation cast.
So far from what I've heard, vars doesnt know how to build characters in ww.
25:46 lmfao
No just no. Vars is horrible. He's always been horrible. Nothing he says should be taken seriously.
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Shit im third
Damn, I'm second
New echo sets are so racist
The hell?
Shit, I'm second
great job you just ruined your channel with the removal of the moon face avatar. i predict the complete downfall and end of service of this channel.
Of course another reaction. This space doesn’t have original content anymore.
wdym i have 200 ER on zhezhi
I was hesitant on the Anthem set for my Yinlin… I have her sig but I’m gonna keep her on Moonlit until I get a decent Anthem set.