The Search for Planet X Review - A Very Bright Star
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"On top of that, you can flip the entire board over--"
I can do that with any game, Quinns
The neighbors must love their neighbor that tapes a sudoku to their face and dances in the hallway
No one can hate a well dressed sudoku
This comment made me laugh so good
Quinns, the reason that most boxes have so much empty space is because they generously leave room for your average Reference Pear.
The publishing process is clever. In the real world you have to publish _something_ fairly frequently or you're out of the game, and submitting papers to conferences for the collaborative benefit offers other people the chance to leapfrog your work and gazump you, as does taking too long on making great research! That's some nice game design right there, even if the real-world publish or perish sucks big time.
I feel like there's a surprisingly large amount of "this mechanic is fun in a game, but when you realize it's mirroring real life pretty well, suddenly reality is depressing".
I hate it when I get gazumped.....I think.
But when you reach the end of the publishing track here the scientific community says if you're right or wrong
If it was real life publishing, the app would say 'this idea is stupid and you're all stupid for being involved in this stupid idea' and 'i really like this publication, and think that with a few revisions it would be a fantastic addition to the scientific community' from two different reviewers
Though that might be about as fun as receiving those reviews in real life
@@theoneandonlyjs19 Perhaps it would be fun if the other players could force you to issue a retraction, but you'd still have all the benefit of early publishing because your citation count would be through the roof... I dunno. My university had great citation metrics after a certain cold fusion debacle
Another real life mechanich:
The advancing the player pawns in the game while that messures "time", and that being reflectes by THE EARTH MOVING AROUND THE SUN, and not only that, but entering THE SEASONS art. So, as stupid as "move your pawn, the last player tajes his turn, and rotate the disc to match last player" is an incredibly elegant and fun and strategic way to do a thing as complicated as time passing while surveing the skies and entering in Spring.
Im astonished of the clever things that are together in this game.
This sounds like my favorite game that I will never find anyone else to play.
There is actually a 1 player mode against a bot that is way smarter than I gave it credit for my first try
@@LazuliZodiac The bot is no joke!
That's how I feel about every video on this channel. =[
One thing not mentioned in the review - it's really great in solo. Probably the best solo implementation I've seen in board games ever. You play vs the bot, who similarly to real players also asks questions, but publishes only based on obtained answers. It's not a simple clock to make you nervous, the bot actually deduces information just like you. When he finds the planet you probably also have enough information to find it, you just haven't put all the pieces together as well. Can't recommend enough!
Worm Month was well worth it, you came back with a hell of a review.
The comparison to other games you often do really are the best part about your reviews. It just helps so much.
I was fine with "an historic." I am not fine with "an strategic."
lol
"Totality of the tamale on the flipity-flip" is going to make its way into my everyday life now
This is really exciting! Alchemists was one of the first games I got after discovering modern board games. We recently tried playing it again and even though it felt like we remembered most of the rules, it was SO time consuming to relearn. I said at the time that a game with the same core deduction mechanic without all the faff would be perfect and this looks to be exactly that! Thanks a lot SUSD for continuing to fuel my board game addiction...
I've been debating this since you spoke about it on the podcast. Glad to see a full review.
Loved awshux, it was amazing!
You've just started the game: do you want to publish your first paper?
Actually, this is very close to how science works (because you often publish a concept paper after a planning phase about what you are going to do)
Also the way you get your mitts on the work of others as soon as they publish and incorporate it in your research...yes, that's also how science works
Love it.
I won't be buying this but I couldn't stop watching the review because Quinn's so excited about it. :D
Agreed, I never really clicked with Cryptid but I adore Planet X
I'm between the two can you maybe talk why you favored one over the other?
@@saiyanroyalty229 Do you care about using an app? Someone could give a wrong clue in Cryptid, but that's not a problem with Planet X using an app. Also as Quinns says, different people could start with different amounts of starting information (if you play with kids, they can get more hints than you).
Cryptid fell flat for me several times. We ran out of Yes/No pieces so I guess we didn't use all the clues correctly.
I'm good at logic but it was harder for me to understand in Cryptid, and it doesn't come with deduction sheets.
@@gabtrat9091 I appreciate the insight thanks for the response
This looks super interesting, but games with required apps are a difficult proposition for me. I want games that I can keep and play in perpetuity, without needing to worry about the support lifespan for niche apps. And I'm not sure this really goes far enough as an integrated physical/digital experience to justify the app reliance.
I really love all the plants featured in these videos, the peperomia looked fantastic
I’ve been telling people for weeks that this game will blow up! A SUSD review will bring my predictions to fruition.
It’s blown up... and I am still awaiting my copy... just about ready to make my own board and use the app to play!!! Impatient!!!
On this day in particular, you are exactly what I needed :,)
Nooooooo it was already so hard to find a copy. :’|
Same thing came to my mind!
And so begins the search for the search for planet X
Marcus Beirne the only way to make the search for the search for Planet X easier would be if you could somehow stop people from searching for ‘the search for Planet X’, or, indeed, from researching the search for Planet X at all
Maybe the rest of the copy's got....lost in space
As far as sci-fi escapism goes, would love to hear your guys’ take on that new Dune: Imperium that’s been going around.
Yes, it seems not much original... Until you read the rules and... The original use of the IP... And thats enough for needing a review.
"Or should I say: A-space"
O_o ....No... No you should not
Thank you all for everything you do. Whenever I'm having a bad day - which is pretty often at the moment haha - I put your boardgame reviews playlist on shuffle and feel better. Even though I'm not buying new boardgames at the moment!
I love this game so much! Being able to play on different difficulties from other people works so so well for my group and the components are beautiful. I also just got Stellar and really love it too! 💃🏼🤩
Thanks for doing an amazing review of a game that is SOLD OUT EVERYWHERE!
Sounds like a less complicated version of alchemists
Sounds like cluedo and sudoku ignored the sci-fi flick and had an wild night instead.
Odd that there was no mention of last years Awkward Guests, or the Sid Sackson classic Sleuth.
I would recommend Awkward Guests in the same genre that seems to have a somewhat similar feel, maybe a bit lighter
The Elfquest books in the background shelf make me happy.
The Sudoku bit needs to be GIFed and saved for posterity for future generations
You either stop right now, or you watch to the end, otherwise, universe will collapse on itself.
I'm about to end this *Universe's* whole career.
"Or should I say, a-space?"
No. No you should not.
Ordered before I even finished the video! I love telescopes and logic puzzles, so this is a no-brainer for me.
How have you had 3 thousand views in 30 mins!! Very impressive guys, very impressive. Keep up the good work 👏 👍
I loved the People Make Games cameo
Was hoping Tragedy Looper would get the nod as a “comp”’for a logic puzzle game. It’s a good one too!
Sounds like The Search for Planet X Review should have received the Shut Up and Sit Down Nearly Asparagus badge
does the cactus comes with the game ?
God, I miss Alchemists... with the expansion it's so good.
I *love* this method of doing turns, similar to how Patchwork does it. I would love to see more games try it on. Thanks for the review, looks great!
Ain't no planet X comin cuz ain't no space cuz ain't not globe earth!
The turn sequence mechanic is great, and the paper publishing mechanic is great BUT this game requires the use of a telephone 'app'', and for me that's a definite no-no. The game should be in the box, not on the web.
I completely agree with you, Lloyd!
Yep, same reason it kills it for me. If I wanted to play a game on my phone I'd like the whole game on my phone.
I play board games for the tactile experience and the analogue feel/experience, I don't want to spend an hour staring at a tiny screen.
Hmmm...i dont know Lloyd sounds very French of you!
Why am I getting the feeling that a running theme on SU&SD is that the seemingly obvious object of the game might not be the winner!!
I think they are pizza segments, not pie... oh wait Quinn’s told me to behave.
If you take the Inis insert out of the box! Never mind that there is an expansion that you also want to fit in the box.
I bought this the second you said "puzzle" on the podcast. My partner and I love logic puzzles and love this game.
Yes, we see your pear-shaped galaxy core. Well done.
So glad I picked this up after you mentioned it on the podcast. It has quickly become one of our favorites.
This reminds me to alchemist ;the publications and research and deductions, looks great
Wrote on this game on BGG, it is absolutely phenomenal, and the app is implemented incredibly well. Glad to see this get more press!
Your reviews are so funny and helpful, amazing
Alchemists is my ABSOLUTE FAVOURITE GAME EVER! And this gives me solid Alchemits vibes, a sure buy for me.
Sexy sudoku AND the ability to have different difficulties for different players? I think I'm in love!
I feel like this is the board game I've been waiting for since I started board gaming
Love the video Quinny!
Question, are you planning on reviewing Aliens another glorius day in the Corps?
This game would be great if anybody I could play with liked working their brain out!
Meh just sit them down say we’re gonna play this thing and start it up. I do that with all my games in my group. They don’t like it? Well we won’t play it again!
And now on random dude recommends a space themed card game, check out The Crew people, its pretty damn awesome for a light and easy going game, and it has a super fun space motif.
Can also be played online on boardgamearena
If Wavelength is the perfect game for extroverts, this is the perfect game for introverts.
The link for a UK purchase just takes you to the USA Amazon.
It would be cool if you reviewed the digital release of fury of dracula
Quinns, suddenly you have a Werner Herzog's voice. I love it!
But if you swing it in a circle, will it create a black hole?
I can't help thinking the image at 14:09 looks like a rifle pointed at the boy's face.
Can't wait to try this. I never thought that academia and peer review would be a fun theme for a board game, but here we are!
Search for Planet X sounds interesting but how is it solo? Quinns spent quite a bit of the review talking about the ways players interact with each other, but in the beginning he mentioned it's a game for "1 to 4" players and I'm curious how it plays solo. I'm not sure I'd be able to convince my friends to play this that often but if it's a solid solo logic game I'd get it. 😄
Also when he was comparing it to other logic games, he left out Rising 5 Runes of Asteros which is kind of like a really fun hybrid of Mastermind and Pandemic. Definitely worth checking that one out if you're looking for great logic games to play solo or with your friends.
I glance to my board game shelf and see inis stubbornly protruding into thin air, no angle of storage allowing it to fully fit on the shelf, and yet it has fewer components than any of the bbgs I own.
Some commentators have talked about how deduction games can become “make a mistake and your out of the game”....so I’d like to recommend one of the very early examples of the genre Code 777
This sidesteps that problem because the hidden information is your 3 tiles, but you have to guess them three times to win - if you make a mistake you only lost one chance (and put a bit more information into the world for the other players). But importantly you can rebuild your knowledge base from that point and start fresh - the mistake doesn’t poison the whole game.
It’s ace and doesn’t rely on an app!
To me it sounds quite a bit like 13 Clues. I haven't seem many copies of it doing the rounds but as far as competitive deduction puzzles go it was killer (and no app required, which is sweet).
Was that a Kurutoga Pipe Slide ? I love those.
I recommend Loot of Lima too in that genre (I love Alchemists too so now I want to try Planet X :) )
The folks at Foxtrot did an amazing job developing this.
Me, SUSD fan and puzzle fan: Ooh, that sounds like something I would really enjoy!
Me, photographer: Why did Quinns set up his tripod so low that he had to bend his body in half to look through it?
Great review! If you want another cool deduction game, you might want to check out Awkward Guests!
That's funky. I have Stellar sitting to the side staring at me when I randomly bought it.
I definitely want to cover that dull boy with coooool space stuff!
Reminds me of the day when Computer games came on CD rom, and packaged in a giant box with 90 percent space. Back then, they thought a big box meant a lot of quality and content, with fancy box art and the big bold box a real man could hold in his hands and be proud of! Until you ran out of shelf space that is...
I'd also recommend Akward guests as a great deduction game.
I haven't played this, but from watching this video it reminds me a whole lot of Clue (or Cluedo). You're slowly going through the process of elimination to find out what's actually there by asking the game "is object A in location B?" like how you'd ask in Clue "did the murder happen in room A with murder weapon B by person C?"
Matúš Kotry's Alchemists, but in SPACE! Bit better on the publishing side (more gut feeling, less "turn order based") and it seems easier to teach.
It also works great as a solo game. I've been enjoying it a lot. First time I buy a game thinking mostly on the solo play actually
The PEARadox you say?
I want to know more about those Award Winning Pies . . .
yeah-yeah, telescopes, puzzles, planets, alright, but does it come with the cactus?
THIS is what l subscribed to SU&SD for. Thank you.
Finally, a smart, unique game that's small and dosen't cause a gravitational collapse in my wallet!
Heard this one discussed on the podcast - think this would be right up my alley 🤓
Ah Top 5 card games.... Did you every get to play the Crew?!!
this is like awkward guests, but without the card trading element.
Well, then this sounds awesome as I like Awkward Guests, but card trading and getting redundant information is my least favourite part of it
Was that a nod to Time Crimes at the end? Needs more blood soaked bandages.
Me: Search for Planet X? Sounds like a space adventure with fun and action...
Me about 5 minutes later: Chasing the Soduku out the door...
That IS an exceptionally well-dressed sodoku.
The game or the dancing man in the hallway?
@@joelface Why not both?? :)
I own and love Planet X.
Bought toally blind when I saw it at 40% discount, because it was a big box with a cool cover, for 24 euros XD I was really really lucky.
Old school Clue is in this category too.
Thought this looked stuffy until I watched for a few minutes....and then SU&SD pulled another one on me, where I feel like I have to have it. :-3
The problem is that anything with an app needs to have a trust with enough money in it to pay for software maintenance and possibly server upkeep, across all relevant platforms, in perpetuity. And has anyone *ever* done that? Probably not, because who's going to put an extra hundreds of thousands of monies into a game up front? Pure software projects might be able to rely on fans to do maintenance, but the reverse dependency also exists-it's pointless to maintain the app unless you have a physical copy of the game. It just all seems like a bad plan.
What I like with Alchemist is that it comes with a "How to play with Game Master instead of using the app" (with components for that, not just some abstract rules). Playing with the app is better as the role of Game Master is kind of boring, but you don't NEED the app.
What I think is: the app doesn't need a server. I tried it with Plane Mode, and it still works. You of course can't connect with other devices.
But that means that, you download the app, and there you have it, whether they maintain it or not.
@@thelyghter7927 Not at all. If an app is server based, the server requires upkeep but the software has a potential lifetime of many years, possibly even a decade or two, before it needs to be recoded to track evolving standards. If it is not server based, it needs to be updated regularly to track the evolution of mobile operating systems and port it to new ones (and perhaps even new hardware-it's not obvious to me that touch sensitive 2D displays will stay with us forever any more than 80 column ANSI terminals did) as they arrive, and there's an ongoing overhead of shepherding them through the app stores.
The industry has just put *zero* effort into-no, in fact, it has actively opposed-the engineering necessary to make software continue to work in the medium term, much less the long term, even though the problem has been well understood for over half a century.
How much software from the year 2000 can you load onto your phone and have it work? Not much, though I know I have one piece-NetHack-that's older than that. Now how much of it “just” worked without someone going to substantial engineering effort to make it happen? None at all. Absolutely none. There's not even a loading path from a CD to a phone-much less from floppy disk, a magnetic tape, or a deck of punched cards.
It really astonishes me how people kid themselves about this. Did your Google music collection not just get flushed? Mine did. There is no plan in place for anything in the digital world to last long enough to pass on to the next generation.
@@stephenspackman5573 Oh you are right! :-O
I didn't thoufht about My Phone getting obsolete, not the duo My App and my Phone. If my Phone crashes, and I have to have a new one, and then the app doesn't work there because its 5 year old and they didn't care about it, then thats it, we are doomed, we can't really play the game anymore.
I just hope that, with all the effort put here, they would still maintain it for the future.
I just hope it :-O
And for that prize, 10 years of good gaming sessions is worth it.
Fantastic review. Can't wait to try this one!
How “The Crew: The quest for planet 9” didn’t make an appearance here I’ll never know
It did though, somewhat. It appeared briefy in their "5 new cardgames" review
@@Puffz0r1 yes, and Quinns said he hadn’t played it but was happy to recommend it on the word of NPI. It’s possible he still hasn’t played it....
I thought it was gonna be the 2nd game in the telescope
3:08 Well, at least Phoenix Wright will be there to defend him.
You should review rising 5 I think it may be the competitor you are looking for