Astigmatism a.k.a Natural mist filter for your eyes. It helps soften the skin tone, creates beautiful halation around the light sources. I don't wear glasses because I hate the sterile clean image projected onto my retina.
I’ve watched so many video’s regarding dream fx/pro-mist/cine bloom filters to figure out if it’s something for me as a fashion videographer. So many video’s here on youtube are so misleading I feel like. Your video really helped me out a lot. Thank you for showing the daylight (with shallow depth of field) and the night sequence. This is super well done and resembles the (correct) use of this filter 100% in my opinion. Fact: your video made me decide to buy this filter. Thank you!
I don't shoot video, but I've collected some mist filters for my photography. I agree with you on different strength best suited to different light conditions. There is no "best" option. It's also depends on aperture: the more you stop down, the heavier diffusion you can use. A point that I think should be emphasized: these things do not make your picture "better", but rather allow you to have something unique if you able to do work in post. My current night time fav is white, not black, pro-mist 1. The color of bloomed lights looks more coldish-ethereal than with black pro-mist. I'm on the hunt to add a 1/2 white pro-mist for daylight. For the daylight I think I slightly prefer Kenko black pro-mist 1 to Tiffen black pro-mist 1. Again, it comes down to color: kenko color feels a touch more pleasant to me. I have Tiffen black pro-mists ranging from 1/8 to 1 and I advise to skip 1/8. It's better to go big, than to go subtle. Even in strong daylight I'd go for 1/4. I also have Tiffen white pro-mist 3... maybe someday I'll figure it out, but for now I prefer to pretend it just doesn't exist. Most of my mist filter experiments is not online, but I have some published. Some of the recent shots in this album were made by me with mist filters: www.flickr.com/photos/curry-hexagon/albums/72157712025509062 As for the Moment stuff, I would have been interested in checking them out if they came up with 52 and 49 mm options, which they didn't.
I know this is from 3 years ago ;) but thanks for sharing. I recently found that a stronger strength around 1 can look muddy with some of my zoom lenses but with my faster primes they look great 🤷♂️ guess the contrast and sharpness on some of these new primes are just nuts and “cuts through” / keeps a sharper image. Any similar findings on this? Any new filters you have tried out or like to use?
@@JasonLawrenceNoel I'm afraid I haven't picked up camera in awhile, let alone at night, where I had the most fun with mists. Perhaps after the war ends.
Dude thanks for making this. Always wondered why my Sony looks so crisp and not cinematic. Never realized how many people are using filters like these.
These filters are probably the biggest jump in being closer to how actual film renders. I know people say just shoot film but in reality not everyone can and also those who work in the pro market you need reliability and quickness and clients STILL want that filmy look sometimes.
I just ordered a 20% cinebloom lens for my Tamron 28-75 and future Sony 85 1.8. Now that I’ve seen this video, I’m glad I made the right choice. I might buy a 67mm 10% and both filters when the 49mm size comes out so I can use the Zeiss 55 with this.
Couldn’t find any videos on the Cinebloom filter that was informative until I came across this! Thanks for helping me make a purchase decision! Subbed, liked and all that good stuff :)
I just bought both. Got my hands on them two nights ago but haven't tested out the 10% yet. I've managed to take a few test night shots on the 20% last night but im gonna be doing a shoot tomorrow night using them both.
Tbh I can definitely see why the BPM is more expensive, they just look so much better. Moment really should have limited the halation to the highlights instead of just spreading it over the frame. I am considering buying a BPM 1/8 and the Moment 20% though.
truevilmeow here’s the problem with BPM though. They retain contrast but I would rather shoot the fade so I have that option rather than shoot crunchy and try to fade in post (which usually adds noise from lifting shadows) you can get your blacks wherever you want in post with the Moment because it’s lifting the entire waveform.
thank you for this. amazing stills - making me want to get into it. So grateful you broke this up by day and night. Definitely a reason to buy both if you can.
I like the look of the Pro Mist much better in low light. I still also use 3 UV filters sprayed with hairspray at different amounts that give similar effects. They were less that $5 each to make and work very well.
@@impatrickt What sounds awful? That I still use Tiffen Pro Mist filters? Or, that our studio still used hairspray filters which work great and give you total control on how much bloom you get?
+1 for the hairspray filters. When I worked out at Screen Gems Studios in Wilmington, North Carolina we used hairspray coated filters a lot. When shooting The Sleepy Hollow TV series we had a guy that made special lens filters for each shoot. He used White Rain hairspray and pantyhose for special effects.
Just a footnote. The halation on cinestill has nothing to do with the chems, but lack of the REMJET layer ECN-2 films have as standard. If you shoot Kodak 500T and process in ECN-2 you won’t get that because it is not supposed to look that way. Pro tip is to cross process C-41 films in ECN-2
Carl Lovén i believe you can remove remjet from any film if you’re tenacious.
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Patrick Tomasso no. Because one ECN-2 films has it. It was mainly meant for cinema cameras so the flashes in the machinery wouldn’t affect the film, nor reflect into the camera housing.
Great review! The price difference compared to Tiffen may be pretty small depending on what strength and filter size you’re buying. I own several strengths of the 77mm BPM, most of which I managed to pick up for around $70-85 each. But prices seem to fluctuate and you can’t always find them for that cheap. Glad there are other companies entering the ring with some good quality alternatives.
Thanks for the video! I'm wondering at 6:02 - is that some kind of a mesh of the filter I'm seeing in the highlight / sun, or some sort of digital artefact?
@@impatrickt the pocket? I mean your one tripod setup with a boom mic. I guess a whole video is uncessary, but what is your new solution for an A-roll rig?
@@impatrickt Im sorry, but what is the tripod you use in this video (last part). It looks like a monopod with legs. I really need to buy this as my Joby Telepod is short and probably not as stable.
1. Smart guy. The split inbetween day & nighttime usage is very smart, as these are really being translated differently by the filter 2. I think there is a relation between your focal length + and the strength of filter you're using [I think the wider the lens- the stronger the filter you'll need] 3. Do your blacks get milky-er with that 20% filter on?
eladbari Thanks! I’m not sure about the focal length relation - but Gerald Undone has a really good video describing how diffusion filters work. In terms of “milky blacks” you will get more faded shadows with the 20% but they are quite easy to bring back in post with some contrast.
Bro you were like one of my favorite new TH-camrs and I really appreciate this video the way you talk the time and effort and returning my black protest which was $70 and buy these instead I’ll be using the link in your bio thanks again
Such a great vid and sick footage man. Used to add vr glow to my footage to get this look or Gaussian blur the highlights in photoshop defs gonna just pick one hp
Patrick Tomasso not only enjoyed it! I slept on it and ended up ordering one for myself. Went with 20% since I do like a more extreme view it produced. ETA for delivery is Saturday!
Thank you for a great video.I have ordered the Cinebloom in 20 strength and am wanting to use it for Live Streaming interactive video yoga classes. Question...I ordered also the 18,mm lens from moment to use with the Cinebloom ( back in stock March 2021 ) How can I see my students while filming...? I have a iphone 12 pro max with the moment lens...what set up do I need ? Is it possible to run the live stream through an Iphone to a pc laptop so I can see myself and my students during the classes? Your help would be so appreciated!
I know this is a 2yr-old video now, so not sure if you're still seeing comments, but if you are, I'm curious to know what lens this footage was shot with (if you happen to remember!). Really nice work here! Thanks!
#LUBEYOURLENS
Does vaseline work 😂
@@VijitChandna hell ya!
What lens were you using?
@@impatrickt j m. bhmo
@@VijitChandna jjjji loku
Astigmatism a.k.a Natural mist filter for your eyes. It helps soften the skin tone, creates beautiful halation around the light sources. I don't wear glasses because I hate the sterile clean image projected onto my retina.
😂
You clearly have no clue what a Astigmatism is.
Astigmatism doesn't create halation it creates harsh streaks of light lines
HALP AHHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHA
as someone with astigmatism, this is the wildist take i have ever seen
I’ve watched so many video’s regarding dream fx/pro-mist/cine bloom filters to figure out if it’s something for me as a fashion videographer. So many video’s here on youtube are so misleading I feel like. Your video really helped me out a lot. Thank you for showing the daylight (with shallow depth of field) and the night sequence. This is super well done and resembles the (correct) use of this filter 100% in my opinion. Fact: your video made me decide to buy this filter. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video, footage was fire!
Cheers man. Thanks for watching!
Aiyooo my fav creator is here
I got to know abt Promist from yo insta live yesterday 😂 thanks for that man
Literally about to say the same thing! Footage is so nice! Smooth!
I don't shoot video, but I've collected some mist filters for my photography.
I agree with you on different strength best suited to different light conditions. There is no "best" option.
It's also depends on aperture: the more you stop down, the heavier diffusion you can use.
A point that I think should be emphasized: these things do not make your picture "better", but rather allow you to have something unique if you able to do work in post.
My current night time fav is white, not black, pro-mist 1. The color of bloomed lights looks more coldish-ethereal than with black pro-mist. I'm on the hunt to add a 1/2 white pro-mist for daylight.
For the daylight I think I slightly prefer Kenko black pro-mist 1 to Tiffen black pro-mist 1. Again, it comes down to color: kenko color feels a touch more pleasant to me.
I have Tiffen black pro-mists ranging from 1/8 to 1 and I advise to skip 1/8. It's better to go big, than to go subtle. Even in strong daylight I'd go for 1/4.
I also have Tiffen white pro-mist 3... maybe someday I'll figure it out, but for now I prefer to pretend it just doesn't exist.
Most of my mist filter experiments is not online, but I have some published.
Some of the recent shots in this album were made by me with mist filters: www.flickr.com/photos/curry-hexagon/albums/72157712025509062
As for the Moment stuff, I would have been interested in checking them out if they came up with 52 and 49 mm options, which they didn't.
I know this is from 3 years ago ;) but thanks for sharing. I recently found that a stronger strength around 1 can look muddy with some of my zoom lenses but with my faster primes they look great 🤷♂️ guess the contrast and sharpness on some of these new primes are just nuts and “cuts through” / keeps a sharper image. Any similar findings on this? Any new filters you have tried out or like to use?
@@JasonLawrenceNoel I'm afraid I haven't picked up camera in awhile, let alone at night, where I had the most fun with mists.
Perhaps after the war ends.
Dude thanks for making this. Always wondered why my Sony looks so crisp and not cinematic. Never realized how many people are using filters like these.
The Gap better hit you up after this
i'd even settle for Old Navy.
Patrick T B-Roll + Makeup and Vanity Set is just *chef kiss*
I was literally looking at pro mist filters earlier this week. So glad I didn't pull the trigger on buying one then!
You are very talented. You have agood eye for good places and objects.
Man that night footage was dope! Reminded me of Stranger Things. Nice work Patrick.
Both Day and Night were amazing 🤩
I’m currently looking at Pro Mist filters and BOOM, I come across this one. You completely changed the course, GREAT VIDEO!
Clarence Newby Awesome!
This video just gives me all the vibes. Can't stop watching this.
thanks tim!
These filters are probably the biggest jump in being closer to how actual film renders. I know people say just shoot film but in reality not everyone can and also those who work in the pro market you need reliability and quickness and clients STILL want that filmy look sometimes.
The music of the daylight set was perfect for that montage and The night footage was so sick man! Well done as always my dude!
Thanks so much! Music is EVERYTHING sometimes.
I love a Tiffen Glimmerglass 1 Filter at night and a Polarpro Every Day Filter at day time on my Fujifilm Camera.
I just ordered a 20% cinebloom lens for my Tamron 28-75 and future Sony 85 1.8. Now that I’ve seen this video, I’m glad I made the right choice. I might buy a 67mm 10% and both filters when the 49mm size comes out so I can use the Zeiss 55 with this.
awesome!
This is going to take my fashion photography to the next level!
100%!
This has a nice retro look to it, love it.
my mood!
Moment is crushing it, and you crushed this video dude. Night stuff was 👌🏻 have to pick one of these up
thanks man! you won't regret it.
this was super helpful. Stoked to get mine
sick!
Great video explaining this filter. I got my cinebloom 20% on back order, it is coming by the end of this month. 😊 can’t wait!!!!!!
I’ve been eyeing the BPM filters for a while but I’m glad I found this before I pulled the trigger!
Also that night footage dude!! It kinda gave me a nostalgic feeling and had so much character. Yep, I’m sold!
I JUST ordered a set! I can't wait to try them out. Thanks for making this video, Patrick!!
Thanks for watching it! You'll love em.
Patrick Tomasso I just got my set in today!! They’re so much fun so far. 😍
Petrichor Films amazing! glad to hear it.
I’m clearly missing a jean jacket. 😭
LMAO actually wheeze laughed at this.
I got one. It’s got a less is more pin on it because I’m that swimple
Couldn’t find any videos on the Cinebloom filter that was informative until I came across this! Thanks for helping me make a purchase decision! Subbed, liked and all that good stuff :)
thanks so much!
Swimple. Love it.
Edit: That footage looks totally like a high-budget music video
🙏🙏🙏
You’re a lifesaver! Awesome video man. I was trying to decide, but then I watched your video! 😃. Thanks man 🙏
cheers!!
@@impatrickt Just purchased it (20%)🎉
This is a superb review Patrick. Thank you.
I knew this video was coming as soon as i saw Moment's promo video of this
Great video. I love the way you chopped it up.
Excellent showcase of the diffusion filters. Great footage!
It's the first video that I watched of you - I'm definitely subscribing! Great approach and content.
Cheers and welcome to the channel!
"Hands off the KY! It's for my lens."
Never again.
I agree, that 20% at night is hitting just right. Going to pick up both. 👊
good call my man!
how is it ? thinking about getting both.
Great video Patrick, and that footage was something else - love the night stuff 👏🏻
same! night stuff really surprised me. thanks for watching!
I just bought both. Got my hands on them two nights ago but haven't tested out the 10% yet. I've managed to take a few test night shots on the 20% last night but im gonna be doing a shoot tomorrow night using them both.
You sir are becoming my fav gear reviewer🔥
woah! thanks so much
Beautiful photography dude!
Tbh I can definitely see why the BPM is more expensive, they just look so much better. Moment really should have limited the halation to the highlights instead of just spreading it over the frame. I am considering buying a BPM 1/8 and the Moment 20% though.
truevilmeow here’s the problem with BPM though. They retain contrast but I would rather shoot the fade so I have that option rather than shoot crunchy and try to fade in post (which usually adds noise from lifting shadows) you can get your blacks wherever you want in post with the Moment because it’s lifting the entire waveform.
Top video and demo, great stuff
OOOh, these example short films are so much of my taste :P I love them! :)
This is a good video. I have spoken.
You are a good human. I have spoken.
Rip Kuiil
This is the way
@@LoverOfTech *this is the way intensifies*
Finally have a use for that last remaining bit of the lube bottle (lube that i only use for photography, of course!). ❤
thank you for this. amazing stills - making me want to get into it. So grateful you broke this up by day and night. Definitely a reason to buy both if you can.
🙏🙏🙏
GREAT VIDEO, literally just ordered one because of you haha.
Loving the footage! Glad I grabbed both levels 🤘🏻
smart move!
flawless video, m8! keep up the good work
Great video, compact and quality information. Thank you!
who else got chills watching the night time footage?
When Bae is getting all the right angles of you and looking like a snack and you hungry af 4:30
LOL
I like the look of the Pro Mist much better in low light. I still also use 3 UV filters sprayed with hairspray at different amounts that give similar effects. They were less that $5 each to make and work very well.
Ken Myers that truly sounds awful
@@impatrickt What sounds awful? That I still use Tiffen Pro Mist filters? Or, that our studio still used hairspray filters which work great and give you total control on how much bloom you get?
+1 for the hairspray filters. When I worked out at Screen Gems Studios in Wilmington, North Carolina we used hairspray coated filters a lot. When shooting The Sleepy Hollow TV series we had a guy that made special lens filters for each shoot. He used White Rain hairspray and pantyhose for special effects.
@@KenMyers all of it
Just a footnote. The halation on cinestill has nothing to do with the chems, but lack of the REMJET layer ECN-2 films have as standard.
If you shoot Kodak 500T and process in ECN-2 you won’t get that because it is not supposed to look that way.
Pro tip is to cross process C-41 films in ECN-2
Carl Lovén i believe you can remove remjet from any film if you’re tenacious.
Patrick Tomasso no. Because one ECN-2 films has it. It was mainly meant for cinema cameras so the flashes in the machinery wouldn’t affect the film, nor reflect into the camera housing.
*only
I’m sold!!! Brilliant video!!
Reminds me of 80's film footage such as the fog etc
Great review! The price difference compared to Tiffen may be pretty small depending on what strength and filter size you’re buying. I own several strengths of the 77mm BPM, most of which I managed to pick up for around $70-85 each. But prices seem to fluctuate and you can’t always find them for that cheap. Glad there are other companies entering the ring with some good quality alternatives.
competition is always good!
such a good video! Great explanation -Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
My name favorite youtuber. Love your way of being.
Thanks, Daniel!
Davinci Resolve Glow fx in softlight mode.
Can confirm. I fired up Resolve, simply added the glow, set it to soft light, and was like wow ok I need to learn more!
OMG Amazingly put together video!! Which camera was used for these example shots? Was it 10-bit footage?
Thanks for the video!
I'm wondering at 6:02 - is that some kind of a mesh of the filter I'm seeing in the highlight / sun, or some sort of digital artefact?
I don’t see anything
@@impatrickt Hmm, okay. Well maybe it's on my end then. Thanks for the vid again!
What a great work man! Amazing stuff! Have you used nd filter + cinebloom at night? Or just a cb 20% filter?
Thanks. Never needed an ND night.
That last bit about your a-roll cage is amazing! CAn you make a whole video about it.
I dont use it anymore. I cant be bothered with the pocket for TH-cam its such a pain. haha.
@@impatrickt the pocket? I mean your one tripod setup with a boom mic. I guess a whole video is uncessary, but what is your new solution for an A-roll rig?
@@JSyntax yeah that whole setup is because the pocket is such a pain in the ass. I just throw a fuji x-e4 on a tripod now. good to go.
@@impatrickt Im sorry, but what is the tripod you use in this video (last part). It looks like a monopod with legs. I really need to buy this as my Joby Telepod is short and probably not as stable.
Hello, if I have a sigma 18 35, which filter should I buy or if I have a super takuma
Cool video mate.
Great video all around!
Thanks!
This makes me think of a bridgecamera differently. IQ on the Pana fz100 ii is not good enough, but now it is. Just put a filter on
It does wonders in high contrast situations 😁
Love the test footage!!!
cheers!
1. Smart guy. The split inbetween day & nighttime usage is very smart, as these are really being translated differently by the filter
2. I think there is a relation between your focal length + and the strength of filter you're using [I think the wider the lens- the stronger the filter you'll need]
3. Do your blacks get milky-er with that 20% filter on?
eladbari Thanks! I’m not sure about the focal length relation - but Gerald Undone has a really good video describing how diffusion filters work. In terms of “milky blacks” you will get more faded shadows with the 20% but they are quite easy to bring back in post with some contrast.
Great job! I watched the night video about 10 times. Was it shot on 50 or 85?
Thanks for your great work !!
Amazing footage, nice work 🙌🏻 You film in b raw or prores for this? Looked great!
BRAW GEN 5 beta!
awesome night footage
cheers!
Nice video man, I think you may have tipped me toward the Cinebloom!
sweet! holler if you have questions.
That night footage is gorgeous!
Nice video man...what lens did you use in night?
This is amazing! I would love to see a sequence with the 10% just to see how they compliment each other... but i'm sold 😁
i dont even have the 10% ha
Bro you were like one of my favorite new TH-camrs and I really appreciate this video the way you talk the time and effort and returning my black protest which was $70 and buy these instead I’ll be using the link in your bio thanks again
thanks!
amazing video and amazing shots WOW!
Solid video my guy
✌️✌️✌️
Such a great vid and sick footage man. Used to add vr glow to my footage to get this look or Gaussian blur the highlights in photoshop defs gonna just pick one hp
awesome!
What FPS was all the slow-mo footage shot at? Great video and review.
Need to get this now, the look in night shots 😍
yeah it’s fire!
Just bought this. You totally sold it. Looking forward to trying it out!
Well done Patrick! Beautiful videos and you've presented the matter very well. Thanks.
cheers Elbert!
Fire video! Does the Moment variable ND interduce X pattern problems?
not that ive experienced
Can you make a vid on your set up that you showed at the end of the vid !
So nice and so cinematic,
I m asking myself why it does not exist for drones ..
Great video, first time watching your content, and loved everything from the actual topic, to the style and loved the font/color combo!
Glad you enjoyed!
Patrick Tomasso not only enjoyed it! I slept on it and ended up ordering one for myself. Went with 20% since I do like a more extreme view it produced. ETA for delivery is Saturday!
@@TohirT BEAUTIFUL!
Thank you for a great video.I have ordered the Cinebloom in 20 strength and am wanting to use it for Live Streaming interactive video yoga classes. Question...I ordered also the 18,mm lens from moment to use with the Cinebloom ( back in stock March 2021 ) How can I see my students while filming...? I have a iphone 12 pro max with the moment lens...what set up do I need ? Is it possible to run the live stream through an Iphone to a pc laptop so I can see myself and my students during the classes? Your help would be so appreciated!
if you have an iPad you could look into FilmicRemote - there's also be some apps that let you use your iPhone as a webcam with a usb cable.
Great work, great video. Well done
thanks!
Very useful video ! Do you know what size of cinebloom filter would fit the X100V ? Thks
i can't remember off the top of my head but its a quick google search
I know this is a 2yr-old video now, so not sure if you're still seeing comments, but if you are, I'm curious to know what lens this footage was shot with (if you happen to remember!). Really nice work here! Thanks!
add some dehaze with the 20% if it's too strong for daylight
Great Video did you use a gimble or was the video hand held?
this is all handheld. personally i actually stand gimbals!
Very happy to learn about these!
Glad you like them!
Great video, love the photos and footage! What lens were you using and did you use it on the Blackmagic camera as well as the Fujifilm?
video just the blackmagic photos are on the fuji! lens on the pocket is slr magic 25mm
Amazing video!! Could i know what lens do you use for your day and night videos?
i don’t remember
I'd love to see a video on the monopod setup.