I mean yeah, he may have killed thousands of people and enslaved thousands more, but he invites you to a wonderful evening of dining and a spectacular helicopter ride to the shrine where you release your mother’s ashes. Thus, he’s a pretty good guy
And i dont want to side with someone who wants to marry a child and one that wants to make children soldiers and drugs which also does most of Pegans crimes so ill side with my very charismatic step dad
@@RaianBlockbusterAjay is far from nice i mean come on the man has no table manners. When someone asks you to enjoy your meal and wait while they attend to important matters you don't just get up and leave.
@robbieaulia6462 but the player would have won either way. He was going to inherit pagan's throne. The best ending is the xrab Rangoon ending or killing both amita nad sambal while letting min escape. Pagan was no threat to you yet the "good guys" are just using you just to become one of them.
@@Rahnonymous You actually lose more if you "win" in the normal endings, as compared to the secret one where you join Pagan at the start. The normal ones see you taking rule of Kyrat from Pagan and handing it off to whoever you sided with, where Pagan simply gives you Kyrat himself if you just listen to him to begin with. And as the true son of Mohan, it leaves the Golden Path with no genuine footing to hold a rebel force, as they only ever gained traction on the basis of "taking back Kyrat from the killer of Mohan." No matter how you spin it, you make more enemies and cause more issues by fighting Pagan, where all the issues get resolved by simply existing if you just listen to him.
Objectively really not... Immature far cry players are just extremely biased and think that a cartoonishly evil villain they personally like is "morally ambiguous" when he is one of the least moral and most evil minded villains of the franchise who purely takes joy in being the ruthless dictator that he is... Pagan is objectively the most evil minded antagonist of the whole franchise in that he knowingly takes pleasure and joy in being the sadistic or ruthless dictator he is rather than actually having any good intentions or motivation factors for doing what he does... That Amita and Sabal aren't good neither doesn't make him good and not better than any of them...
@@Hasanovicc18 Okay? How does that change what i said? Enslaving young women and selling them as prostitutes like he does is very much similar to these things you mentioned... He also does all kinds of other things in terms of murder and enslaving of innocents which is definitely just as bad and worse... That Amita and Sabal doesn't turn out to be that good leaders neither still doesn't make Pagan any better and he is still responsible for far worse than them... By that logic Joseph in far cry 5 or Hoyt/Vass in far cry 3 are also good guys "because the resistance are not exactly saints neither". That there is a group of other bad people dosent make the villain lesser evil and with Pagan and objectively he is still far more evil and has done far worse stuff... So yes pure bias to the max and zero valid argumentation...
The thing about farcry 4 is the story is quite gray, the golden path are not the good guys, however they're also not the bad guys. Ultimately they're the lesser of two evils when compared to who they're fighting.
I wish they kept it, you can't help but feel a bit slimy helping the golden path if the indoctrination doesn't work. Pagan isn't a traditional "good" guy, but he fights for his sense of justice, rather than wanting to uphold a self-centered dictatorship.
"no one in the game is a saint" doesn't justify being a literal dictator supporter. People talking about far cry show alot of their poltical views when they talk about, wether they admit it or not. And people who support a dictator who only AND ONLY cares about himself and his interests over an organization (which he btw was part of just so you don't forget that the things you critizise are literally all things he supported ASWELL) that at least has aspirations of making THE COUNTRY better, not making it into a personal bank account are NOT doing themselves favors.
@@hatinmyselfiscool2879 so you think that people are actually supporting dictators because they want to side with a charismatic villain in a videogame? Once again, an overly political mind manifests in someone with a shoe size iq. That's literally the same as saying "videogames cause violence"
You will hate him slightly more after learning more about him in the game and the comic. But after the ending with Sabal or Amita, you will like him slightly more.
@@Pilaf-Sama Anyone who has ever played the original RDR would've anticipated Dutch's fall from grace in RDR2. Everyone knew it was gonna happen, they just didn't know how.
Pagan Min invites Ajay for a feast. He respectfully helps him to achieve his mother’s wishes. He wants to fire guns with him like a fatherly bonding. Best step dad award goes to
Tbf he did the same things the people of kyrat did already like stealing treasures and growing drugs but also actually started a rhino breeding campaign and most the bad things he did was to try and fuck over the golden path and that’s cuz the leader killed his kid which he eventually slowed down on because he realised it wasn’t actually fair to use her death as an excuse either way still better than Amita and sabal
Pagan Ming: proceed to commit almost all war crime ever made to the people of Karat Everyone that played the freaking game: I WiSe We CoUlD pLaY aLoNg SiDe HiM
Far cry generaly should have an entry where the game essentially begins with two propaganda posters one for the good guys and one for the bad guys. Depending on which you choose you play one of two characters of which the other becomes the opponent champion.
I think Pagan only wanted the best for Kyrat but Royal army was treating the Kyrat peoples like trash and thats what pissed of the Golden Path (and also the drug thing)(and some of his sidekicks like Yuma or Paul D Pleur or Noore)
Because you have tunnel vision. Somehow "being charming" for you justifies looking over questionable acts, while actually trying to do the right thing doesn't. I'd suggest looking into yourself and questioning why.
@@hatinmyselfiscool2879 everyone thinks like that for the most part. If anyone is nice to you in the real world to some extent you’ll respect them even if they are an asshole
@@hatinmyselfiscool2879 Yeaaahhh go ahead and ignore that sabal wants to marry little girls and amita wants to make children into soldiers and do child labor…. 😂😂
If he was my step father. I won't give a shit whatever he did. He always looked after Ajay and always pampered him like Ajay was his own. From time to time we get pagan's transmissions guiding us about Amita and sabal. In the end when we take everything away from pagan which he worked hard to build , pagan just gives away everything without any hard feelings. Pagan built a golden statue of himself which when Ajay destroyed, pagan radioed us saying that "he should be taking this personally but what is done is done and nothing else can be done about it" and still welcomes Ajay with open arms for a 5 star lunch and in the end completes his work by guiding Ajay finally to lakshamana. On every fucking turn and every fucking time pagan has our back ❤
It only confirm more that he think of ajay as his son, In the DLC, we can see Ajay at the table with his mom and Lakshmana he Is also a person who understand about both bad and good
Far Cry 4 has been a one of my most favourite games in the entire world I didn't have Internet for about a year and all I did was just play Far Cry 4 and also I got to say he is the nicest villain and to be honest if Far Cry 4 had a DLC where you're playing with the villain I would 100% buy it and play the game over again I generally think Far Cry 4 needs a lot of respect after all it was a really nice storyline and I had fun playing it I would do it over and over again , maybe not the other missions where you in the other Realm or whatever it is I forgot it's been that long
Same man, I love Far Cry 4 all the things it offered. Though I didn't get around to using most of the games weapon on my first playthrough since I suck at FPS games at the time so I had a very stealth focus loadout.
the quote of geralt fits this game, there is no such thing as good or bad evil but if had to chosse between these 2 then i prefer to choose not at all. here the good evil is pagan and the bad evil is golden path. so i say we accept pagans advice and become the king of kyrat ourselves
@@Wsp8688 Wasnt Pagan fighting with Mohan Ghale to restore the original monarchy but then at the last minute turned against the cause, killed the royal family and made himself King instead
I think its less that he is the good guy, but the other two options, Amita and Sabal, are hated so, so, so much more. Mix that with Pagan oozing charisma, and people will side with him every time. The other two had no chance.
Pagan min was the lesser of three evils, atleast he does the right thing and potentially gives kyrat to someone who wont use it as a drug den or an outdated traditionalsim.
i wish the secret ending was another full story just as long as the actual story that wouldve been amazing fighting with pegan against the golden path😂😂
Compared to the other choices he's better. Also he has a point about the candles in remote hard to reach and dangerous temples. There's a civil war who is going around everyday and lighting/replacing them.
Nice transition 👌 But Pagan Min is still the best of 3 evils as he gives you the keys to the kingdom and bails. Compared to Amita and Sabal who make Kyrat a slave state for their own benefit. If only we got an epilogue to see what Ahjay would do as the new leader.
He actually did not build Durgesh Prison. One of the tips that you see during the fast travel menu is that it was constructed by a former King of Kyrat who was upset with the prophecy a local monk gave him.
Noore was the character with the most tragic fate in game. That's a shame there is no option to save her from suicide (maybe even make her join the Golden Path)
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I mean yeah, he may have killed thousands of people and enslaved thousands more, but he invites you to a wonderful evening of dining and a spectacular helicopter ride to the shrine where you release your mother’s ashes. Thus, he’s a pretty good guy
And i dont want to side with someone who wants to marry a child and one that wants to make children soldiers and drugs which also does most of Pegans crimes so ill side with my very charismatic step dad
Were the people he killed really innocent?
Plus hes ur dad
Those crab Rangoon were great
Nicest guy in Kyrat
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@@SerialdirtbagofficialH O W
Ajay is
@@RaianBlockbusterAjay is far from nice i mean come on the man has no table manners. When someone asks you to enjoy your meal and wait while they attend to important matters you don't just get up and leave.
Yea but only because the bar is so low it's touching the ground.
If only we had an option to side with pagan in the game
The secret ending
Bozo
@@Darren-lb3rx but actually playing the game, not just an ending
Like a completely different route for the game?
Tbh the better option would've been to take it all for yourself
Player :"Damn, Pyschopath"
Proceed to wipe out thousands guard in one playthrough for fun.
Ikr, it's so ironic that even Pagan Minh called us out on the hypocrisy of how we're more psychopathic than him at the end of the game.
LOL 💩 in da 🚽🧻Is Ajay but I Like His German VA 🪠@@robbieaulia6462
90% of those things he did we ended up doing anyway with the good guys
But better since we won 😎
oh i am pretty sure both of the golden path guys end up commiting way worser crimes
@@robbieaulia6462History is writen by the victors after all
@robbieaulia6462 but the player would have won either way. He was going to inherit pagan's throne. The best ending is the xrab Rangoon ending or killing both amita nad sambal while letting min escape. Pagan was no threat to you yet the "good guys" are just using you just to become one of them.
@@Rahnonymous You actually lose more if you "win" in the normal endings, as compared to the secret one where you join Pagan at the start. The normal ones see you taking rule of Kyrat from Pagan and handing it off to whoever you sided with, where Pagan simply gives you Kyrat himself if you just listen to him to begin with. And as the true son of Mohan, it leaves the Golden Path with no genuine footing to hold a rebel force, as they only ever gained traction on the basis of "taking back Kyrat from the killer of Mohan."
No matter how you spin it, you make more enemies and cause more issues by fighting Pagan, where all the issues get resolved by simply existing if you just listen to him.
Still better than Sabal and Amita.
Objectively really not...
Immature far cry players are just extremely biased and think that a cartoonishly evil villain they personally like is "morally ambiguous" when he is one of the least moral and most evil minded villains of the franchise who purely takes joy in being the ruthless dictator that he is...
Pagan is objectively the most evil minded antagonist of the whole franchise in that he knowingly takes pleasure and joy in being the sadistic or ruthless dictator he is rather than actually having any good intentions or motivation factors for doing what he does...
That Amita and Sabal aren't good neither doesn't make him good and not better than any of them...
@@mightychosen2587 atleast he dont marry little children and have child labor lol
@@Hasanovicc18 Okay? How does that change what i said?
Enslaving young women and selling them as prostitutes like he does is very much similar to these things you mentioned...
He also does all kinds of other things in terms of murder and enslaving of innocents which is definitely just as bad and worse...
That Amita and Sabal doesn't turn out to be that good leaders neither still doesn't make Pagan any better and he is still responsible for far worse than them...
By that logic Joseph in far cry 5 or Hoyt/Vass in far cry 3 are also good guys "because the resistance are not exactly saints neither".
That there is a group of other bad people dosent make the villain lesser evil and with Pagan and objectively he is still far more evil and has done far worse stuff...
So yes pure bias to the max and zero valid argumentation...
@@mightychosen2587 nah, he's objectively better
The thing about farcry 4 is the story is quite gray, the golden path are not the good guys, however they're also not the bad guys. Ultimately they're the lesser of two evils when compared to who they're fighting.
Pagan Min AKA “The Rizz Master” how tf he talk women out of their inheritance?😭😭
With a gun i assume
@@hatinmyselfiscool2879
A gun is the ultimate tool for rizz
@@Fck_the_atf wait but which women did he talked about giving her inheritance
@@hatinmyselfiscool2879 which women are they talking about
@@hatinmyselfiscool2879 Gun in his pants yeah
He was just feeling silly
He's not like other leaders 🤪
Just got a little to goofy, oops
Yeah dont we all do it when we get a bit to goofy
International criminal court Judge: Pagan min is found non-guilty because it was a whoopsie-daisy
Your Honor, it was an oopsie
I don't care, Pagan Min got that haircut that makes him seem really trustworthy
true that
the karen cut makes him seem trust worthy? lmaoo
and hes played by troy baker
Do you like karens?
And the pink suits
He's just a quirky little guy
Originally the developers gave you the option to join his side at some point in the game, but they cut it due to time restraints.
I wish they kept it, you can't help but feel a bit slimy helping the golden path if the indoctrination doesn't work. Pagan isn't a traditional "good" guy, but he fights for his sense of justice, rather than wanting to uphold a self-centered dictatorship.
That's a shame... But honestly I don't think it makes much sense to do it in the middle of the story
Tbh, no one in the game is a saint. We're all just playing so we can kill Amita and Sabal to make them shut up already
"no one in the game is a saint" doesn't justify being a literal dictator supporter. People talking about far cry show alot of their poltical views when they talk about, wether they admit it or not. And people who support a dictator who only AND ONLY cares about himself and his interests over an organization (which he btw was part of just so you don't forget that the things you critizise are literally all things he supported ASWELL) that at least has aspirations of making THE COUNTRY better, not making it into a personal bank account are NOT doing themselves favors.
@@hatinmyselfiscool2879 so you think that people are actually supporting dictators because they want to side with a charismatic villain in a videogame? Once again, an overly political mind manifests in someone with a shoe size iq. That's literally the same as saying "videogames cause violence"
@@hatinmyselfiscool2879 I'll rather choose Pegan then a woman child slaver or a man who wants child brides.
@@hatinmyselfiscool2879 Christ almighty how stupid can you be?
@@ihavewaited90daystochangem51 I think you took his comment too literal
He's the most realist choice any of us would make in that situation
The list of the bad things Pagan did is longer than the bible 💀
Loll and why do you have 0 comments
@@hypeman1238 huh?
@@DingleJingle69 wdym "huh" u had 0 replies
Oh right i said comments sorry dude
@@hypeman1238 and?
‘Not so innocent, innocent’ is the best way to describe the Kyrat population.
If the main antagonist is nice to people you play as or otherwise like, you're very likely to like the antagonist (Dutch from RDR, Pagan Minn, etc.)
yeah but you don’t know that Dutch is the antagonist until chapter 6
@@Pilaf-Sama we've known Dutch is the antagonist since 2011.
You will hate him slightly more after learning more about him in the game and the comic. But after the ending with Sabal or Amita, you will like him slightly more.
@@Pilaf-Sama Anyone who has ever played the original RDR would've anticipated Dutch's fall from grace in RDR2. Everyone knew it was gonna happen, they just didn't know how.
funny enough it seems dutch is first your friend but slowly starts to turn against you but there is proof it might have been an act all along
Pagan Min invites Ajay for a feast. He respectfully helps him to achieve his mother’s wishes. He wants to fire guns with him like a fatherly bonding.
Best step dad award goes to
Based dad
Tbf he did the same things the people of kyrat did already like stealing treasures and growing drugs but also actually started a rhino breeding campaign and most the bad things he did was to try and fuck over the golden path and that’s cuz the leader killed his kid which he eventually slowed down on because he realised it wasn’t actually fair to use her death as an excuse either way still better than Amita and sabal
He still has the most wholesome secret ending
Boys choose Vaas, men choose Pagan.
animal cruelty
proceeds to yeet an elephant into the heavens
fails
"Felt cute. Might take over a country later"
Pagan after killing his dad
Still the best option of the bunch
"Counterpoint... He's got that Rizz though"
Pagan Ming: proceed to commit almost all war crime ever made to the people of Karat
Everyone that played the freaking game: I WiSe We CoUlD pLaY aLoNg SiDe HiM
Play the game first and then talk.
The game should have an actual option of joining him, instead of that secret ending
Far cry generaly should have an entry where the game essentially begins with two propaganda posters one for the good guys and one for the bad guys. Depending on which you choose you play one of two characters of which the other becomes the opponent champion.
I think Pagan only wanted the best for Kyrat but Royal army was treating the Kyrat peoples like trash and thats what pissed of the Golden Path (and also the drug thing)(and some of his sidekicks like Yuma or Paul D Pleur or Noore)
Artillery striking civilians💀
I liked him so much that when I found out about the secret ending, I deleted my save, got that ending and sold it. He is absolutely the good guy
He is just a cheeky boyy
Still ended up looking more "good" than the others.
Because you have tunnel vision. Somehow "being charming" for you justifies looking over questionable acts, while actually trying to do the right thing doesn't. I'd suggest looking into yourself and questioning why.
@@hatinmyselfiscool2879 everyone thinks like that for the most part. If anyone is nice to you in the real world to some extent you’ll respect them even if they are an asshole
@@hatinmyselfiscool2879 sabal wants to marry children
Key word is "looking"
@@hatinmyselfiscool2879 Yeaaahhh go ahead and ignore that sabal wants to marry little girls and amita wants to make children into soldiers and do child labor…. 😂😂
He’s that evil uncle who’s just nice to you
I want it known I bought the game, sat at the table and waited, watched the end cutscene and credits, then refunded it. Absolute masterpiece.
You mean the secret ending? That's quite the dedication for something you can just watch on youtube and I respect that.
If he was my step father. I won't give a shit whatever he did.
He always looked after Ajay and always pampered him like Ajay was his own. From time to time we get pagan's transmissions guiding us about Amita and sabal.
In the end when we take everything away from pagan which he worked hard to build , pagan just gives away everything without any hard feelings.
Pagan built a golden statue of himself which when Ajay destroyed, pagan radioed us saying that "he should be taking this personally but what is done is done and nothing else can be done about it" and still welcomes Ajay with open arms for a 5 star lunch and in the end completes his work by guiding Ajay finally to lakshamana.
On every fucking turn and every fucking time pagan has our back ❤
Technically wasn’t it Paul Harmon that manipulated Noore into thinking her family was alive?
holy shit that transition was perfect
Seems like an alright guy
But what I'll mainly remember is the laughter.
He is like the average business man
Villain so likable that he'll give you the entire land to rule as you let him take his helicopter.
oh come on, who cares about his sin while he's such a flamboyant chad.
Yeah ok but he served you some fire-looking crab Rangoon’s so?
He IS the good guy no discussion
I found Joseph more likeable since in the end he was right
Animal cruelty *elephant flys across the screen* 😂
He planned on giving you the throne.
He accepted us even though his beef with the golden path goes back to our father, all because he truly loved our mother
It only confirm more that he think of ajay as his son, In the DLC, we can see Ajay at the table with his mom and Lakshmana
he Is also a person who understand about both bad and good
Far Cry 4 has been a one of my most favourite games in the entire world I didn't have Internet for about a year and all I did was just play Far Cry 4 and also I got to say he is the nicest villain and to be honest if Far Cry 4 had a DLC where you're playing with the villain I would 100% buy it and play the game over again I generally think Far Cry 4 needs a lot of respect after all it was a really nice storyline and I had fun playing it I would do it over and over again , maybe not the other missions where you in the other Realm or whatever it is I forgot it's been that long
Same man, I love Far Cry 4 all the things it offered. Though I didn't get around to using most of the games weapon on my first playthrough since I suck at FPS games at the time so I had a very stealth focus loadout.
If you have far cry 6 U can buy a dlc and Play with pagan and learn more about him
the quote of geralt fits this game, there is no such thing as good or bad evil but if had to chosse between these 2 then i prefer to choose not at all. here the good evil is pagan and the bad evil is golden path. so i say we accept pagans advice and become the king of kyrat ourselves
He sounds like a good guy
Your honor, my client had to go ape.
Now go and describe the two other "Good" side factions 💀 then everyone will quickly realize how Pagan is the lesser evil. Way way lesser.
We all make small mistakes
I wish next Farcry game we could side with the villain/antagonist
I knew this guy was a pimp when I seen the suit. He’s a playa that can talk a cat off a fish wagon, gotta respect it
that's why he's the good guy.
He alright, Pagan Kyrat is for Pagans!
It says something that this guy is more preferable than the other two leaders-
my best villian from all of the games of this world
PEGAN MIN
I definitely would just sit there and eat then go shoot guns
He’s just pulling a 🇺🇸
Still better than the golden path
Pagan min WAS LITERALLY PART OF THE GOLDEN PATH. How are you that invested in a game you don't know?
@@hatinmyselfiscool2879 tf u talking about? Pagan min was fighting the golden path, they were against him, tf u on?
@@hatinmyselfiscool2879 u high?
@@hatinmyselfiscool2879you got the wrong game dude.
@@Wsp8688 Wasnt Pagan fighting with Mohan Ghale to restore the original monarchy but then at the last minute turned against the cause, killed the royal family and made himself King instead
Sounds like a chad to me
Imagine being a complete psycho and you still want to help your step son
he got that drip tho
I think you were the one who made a video claiming him to be the "chillest" far cry villain
Pagamin isn't good or bad guy, he just a broken villain.
That's my blood line 💀💀
I think its less that he is the good guy, but the other two options, Amita and Sabal, are hated so, so, so much more. Mix that with Pagan oozing charisma, and people will side with him every time. The other two had no chance.
My mans didn't do nufin wrong!
His man:
Step dad! Im stuck in a Terrorist Base camp, can you pick me up.
You see the real face of Amita and sabal in the last mission where they command you like you're slave and they own you...
Honestly people thinking that Pagan is the good guy is a testament to how good of a villain he is.
Pagan min was the lesser of three evils, atleast he does the right thing and potentially gives kyrat to someone who wont use it as a drug den or an outdated traditionalsim.
animal cruelty: throws elephant*
That is a confirmed daddy issues
i wish the secret ending was another full story just as long as the actual story that wouldve been amazing fighting with pegan against the golden path😂😂
Yet still more likeable than the two literal terrorists.
Compared to the other choices he's better. Also he has a point about the candles in remote hard to reach and dangerous temples. There's a civil war who is going around everyday and lighting/replacing them.
At the end of the game he tells you the last time he went into the shrine for your half sister he came back out like he currently is
Most wholesome Dictator the world has ever seen.
Bro just spoiled the secret for me😂
You listed most of what colonists in the Americas did
Africa: ☠️
Nah those red people are totally fine now
@@SirRobertELeethats why i said most
I love those demon possesed prisons in middle of Arizona and wyoming
and we are proud of it
Nice guy
Well that's because his father was in the mob in the country he originally came from, he could've but he didn't change
strangly that didn't change my opinion about him
This game portrayed "Not Everyones a good guy" pretty well.
Vaas and Pagan have to be some of the best villains in gaming.
No Pagan Min is a trash villain because everyone agrees with him
@@oversizedlabrador that’s what makes him interesting
Nice transition 👌
But Pagan Min is still the best of 3 evils as he gives you the keys to the kingdom and bails. Compared to Amita and Sabal who make Kyrat a slave state for their own benefit. If only we got an epilogue to see what Ahjay would do as the new leader.
Lmao the vsauce music
He is the best suited for the role of leader
I forgot the part where the civil war was my problem
Boss was definetly the most likeable villain
Thats why i do the secret emding just sit and eat the fucking crab Rangoon
He actually did not build Durgesh Prison. One of the tips that you see during the fast travel menu is that it was constructed by a former King of Kyrat who was upset with the prophecy a local monk gave him.
TOP G behaviour 😂
Farcry 4 is def underrated af Imo its better than 3. Its basically 3 but just with a bunch more stuff added on
Farcry 4 had better environments too
Noore was the character with the most tragic fate in game. That's a shame there is no option to save her from suicide (maybe even make her join the Golden Path)
Okay but you get Crab Rangoon