New Worksharp Ken Onion Guided Angle Sharpener Full Sharpening and Review
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Cedric I'm debating between the edge pro and the kme I want the best super sharpener I guess for fillet knives something that takes the guess work out and ensures perfection what would u reccomend
I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for taking the time to do these sharpener reviews. As a knife guy who is newer to sharpening they are immensely helpful, and there is no other resource out there like these reviews. You rock, Pete!
There is no other resource? You also have to be new to the thing called "Internet".
You're a knife guy and a weeb. Subscribed, big fan of knife TH-camrs that don't always act serious and tactical for every second of the video
Uncle Randy never needed no fancy diamonds and ceramics to sharpen HIS Buck 110!
Uncle randy never had them fancy 20cv Buck 110.
But like uncle randy its time to take them 440c bucks out back and shoot them.
JK
one thing i find pretty cool about this system is once you set your desired angels, the stones actually give a large representation of what your edge should look like, so you can see how wide and stout a 45 degree edge would look vs a 35. pretty elementary, but that visualization is still nice when picking the necessary angle for what the knife is being used for along side its geometry
The most effective way to use these V style sharpeners is to stand above them and look down, makes it a lot easier to keep the blade in a vertical position. When standing horizontally to them its harder to get consistent results.
Thanks this was the video I was waiting for you to make awesome stuff man
You do a lot of heavy lifting for us. Many thanks!
Hey Pete, I also would very much like to thank you for making this excellently instructional video! It sold me on this product. I'm also new to sharpening and tools like these in my opinion, are a good way to start learning. I'll be referring to your video here quite a bit when my sharpener arrives, like a guide! Thanks again!!!
Great review...and it looks like a great touch up sharpener. I have a KME and really like it. The deluxe kit has everything you need to go from a a re-profile grind to a mirror polish blade. I rarely do the mirror polish just mostly because of the extra time...but it works great when I do.
Providing that you have decent manual dexterity I would always recommend just learning to sharpen freehand with small stones or plates.
Agreed. If you can keep your hand and knife consistently vertical using one of these kinds of sharpeners, you _should_ be able to keep your angle consistent on a flat stone. Also, there is a far greater variety of options in standard bench stones compared to these specialized "systems".
I think it’s easier to keep a knife steady in the vertical position than it is to maintain the same angle horizontally
@@derschwarzgeist I can keep my hand steady on a whetstone, the tricky part is to use the same angle every time I put the knife on a stone.
I think it is more rewarding as well. I purchased this worksharp and some sharpal stones to see what I'd prefer, I definitely prefer benchstones. The benchstones for me provided a much quicker sharpening and a more even edge than on the worksharp angle set.
@@GOxHAM Yeah I think that sharpening 'systems' with preset angles are a bit of a crutch really, every knife bevel is a little different and it's better to adjust your angle by eye and feel to match it. I'm not a fan of sharpening with a stone flat on a table either, I get much better results if I hold the stone and blade up so I can actually see what I'm doing, and switch hands for either side. I also find it to be much more ergonomic than leaning over and guessing what I'm doing to the edge. See Michael Christy's videos for an example of how good you can get with proper freehand sharpening, though I don't think you need such expensive gear, I can get great results from cheap diamond plates and diamond paste from ebay.
I searched for a sharpener to use while out and about. First i wanted to get the field sharpener, but i found this one for 5 bucks more. This thing is portable enough but has much more options, great tool. It won’t replace my big sharpeners at home, but to do a quick resharpening in the woods? Great for that.
I currently own a spyderco sharpmaker. I see many similarities between the two. This has the advantage of including an even finer stone and more options for what angle you would like your edge to be at. The spyderco has the ability to sharpen more things and is more compact when closed up. Overall very similar sharpening systems that require the user to be in control of the knife and aware of what they are doing in order to create a nice edge.
I had a hard time getting the angle right on my Sharpmaker. I found doing it standing instead of seated helped a lot.
Agree 100% it helps a lot to stand up vs sitting down!
I've noticed it's also easier when the sharpmaker is about hip height
agreed - standing and i make sure Im tensing/locking my wrist a bit
I have lansky and gatco guided systems. I also have the Spyderco sharpmaker. I have the KME. About a month ago, I saw this and had to have it. It works like the Sharpmaker, but with 5 separate angles vs the 2 offered by the sharpmaker. It also has three grits like the video indicates. While it won't make mirror edges, obviously, I like having the 5 angles. It does a great job of sharpening any knife you have including all kitchen knives, at an affordable price. I can get very sharp edges with it. It's a winner.
I've had one of these about six months,and I love it.I seldom use the high abraive section,don't really need it.One thing-Ive had better results,by not applying pressure on the blade,I just drag it across,with just thaweight of the knife
I use the little lansky rod block thing for quickly touching up an edge. It's pretty cheap and I've gotten alot of use out of it.
Oh come along mate. It is time for a spot of tea. Nice demo. Thanks for posting. Knives need to be sharp so we can be ready for the king brown snakes we have here in Australia.
Nice review! I bought this sharpener and it is great. This sharpener has also an advantage of possibility to sharpen any shaped knife except maybe “hook” shaped knives. Other system that hold blade in a clamp sometimes fail to hold blade well or it is impossible to choose the right holding position when the blade is not square on the back. Also for large knives clamping position can be not optimal in any place. And these scratch marks from clamps might show up sometimes. This system from Work Sharp here is free of these issues.
I do not know about other Work Sharp sharpening systems, but i do have the GSS system you said you are interested in buying, Pete. I have it for more than a year now, so i have put quite some use to it, as i was experimenting between free hand sharpening and the GSS. It has fairly good quality put into it. However, the diamond plates are made in China and the 600grit one(fine) wears out really fast, even when used in cheap steels and with minimum pressure. Also, the length of the plates does not give much comfort when sharpening and they are quite narrow. The 2 holes where the magnets come in place sometimes catch the tip of knives and the surface arround those holes is a bit different than the rest of the plate. I have no experience with a dmt 600grit plate to be able to compare, but the gss system has failed me completely. This my personal opinion and i hope it will be of help to someone. You can buy a couple of really good stones and practice free hand sharpening with the money you would spend on gss. Plus, the wheight and volume it has makes it a bit inconvenient to take with you if you travel. Pete, if you take the time to read this, i hope it will give you a good idea of what it might be.
Per Worksharp's email to me a few months ago, the course diamond is 400 grit, fine diamond is 800 grit and ceramic 1000-2000, depending on your pressure. Comparing them to the KME diamonds though, that doesn't line up at all. So I guess each company does their grits totally different. 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Scott Parker no one has a standard for grits. Which is annoying for certain applications
Windex is the best diamond stone cleaner I've tried, a few drops then quickly rub it in then squeegee it off with your fingers. I started this after I wrecked a couple of stones by not drying them well enough and they rusted, the stones on my work sharp field sharpener actually.
Honing oil makes it so that If i dont clean up after sharpening,that no rust will happen.
Magic eraser cleans stones and ceramics quite well too.
Nice video dude, very informative, cheers, 😎👍👍
Looks like the folks at Ken Onion Worksharp have a thing for the Sharpmaker. Good job on making it just different enough that Spyderco cannot sue you.
Have you used the Spyderco sharp maker? This seems very similar but with more available angles. Thanks for the review.
I grabbed one of these even though I'm a KME guy. I just like gadgets. It's a decent system that can do everything sane knife owners would need. And yes I wish it had at least a rudimentary strop. But solidly worth $50
Love the serrated millie
Hi Pete, you van see your hand move a bit, thus there is no absolute fixed angle. No problem at all, you create a convex edge that way, with a slightly sharper angle than 17.5
OK. Glad you mentioned that their was no jig. I learned how to sharpen on oil and later diamond stones. Honestly don't see advantage. Good work explaining it.
I started with this and then went to the lansky. I’m still using the lansky but I’d love to upgrade to the KME but funds are kinda tight atm
Yes, get the kme once you can afford it. It is the best sharpener on the market. YES! I had wicked edge before. I still very aggressively believe that the KME is better, even if the WE was less expensive.
Get a wicked edge. Better that you can work both sides of a knife at the sane time. WE also feels way sturdier than KME. Then again personal preference of course.
Looks like a reverse spyderco sharpmaker. I mean Ken onion does cool designs but I think the spyderco offers more utility especially because you can get all the way into the corner towards the handle
I've been using the Spyder sharpmaker for a couple of years now after i just couldn't get super sharp results using stones (i have never been taught properly), i get some super edges from it if you put in the time i can't fault it for my uses, it looks like to be maybe the next level up from this worksharp.
Great vid!👍👍 I will have to see if you have reviewed the Spyderco sharpening system. New to the super steels, so gotta get a decent sharpener
Is this system suitable for kitchens knifes? Thanks for your effort.
I think I'd try lightly pressing the palm of my support hand on the top of the sharpening mounts (top of the inverted V portion). That would keep your hands out of the way of a missed stroke, and apply even pressure down through to the base.
GREAT Vid 🔥🔥
are you able to replace the diamond plates?
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Please! Test the Lansky Masters Edge! It looks like the best between the Spyderco and Worksharp Sharpmaker versions.
With the Lansky turnbox I keep constant pressure both up and down, slashing at the sharpener seems crude and inexact.
if you have good knives, but only had around $50 (long story) what sharpener would you recommend. I have many fixed blades but also plenty of folders. I just can't afford to waste my money. when you get severely injured in a line of duty, they really screw you. thanks for your help. Blessings.
He's called Onion because every time you look @ his customs all you can do is cry due to the price
Is the edge Pro Apex still any good?
What was the blue handled knife?
Did he Jam his tip straight into that stone?
Really appreciated all the information in this video. I received this sharpener recently, tried to follow your technique exactly, but I can’t get it sharp enough to cut paper. My edge has improved and it’s moderately sharp. Honestly I shouldn’t be disappointed with the results for my first attempt, but it’s frustrating to not be able to cut paper. Im doing my very best to hold vertical, and with moderate/light pressure stroke consistently. I’ve gone from coarse to medium to fine multiple times alternating with each stroke to manage the burr. I strop after as well, just can’t achieve the results I want yet. Any advice is appreciated!
These stones need to break in for a short time. I get anything that is made of proper steel shaving sharp. Or maybe you have a bad knife? I have one strange knife that I can sharpen all day long and it is still trash. Some very strange alloy that can be sharpened only on some rotating stones or so. Level the table under it or at least check it to have even bevel.
Would this be considered an upgrade from the guided field sharpener or just more of a sidestep? Looking to upgrade the field sharpener (which I still like quite a bit) for a better quality edge without breaking the bank. Thanks.
I would say this is in contest with the larger angled sharpening system, for folks who prefer this methodology
Hey Pete, I hope things are well with you and the family!
Are you going to do a video on the Work Sharp Guided Sharpening System "GSS"? I received one as a gift for Christmas, it's a very interesting system. I do not know of any others like it. I will give you a heads up if you are going to pick one up, the Upgrade Kit is a must. It comes with two diamond stones and most importantly the strop, compound and a few other bits. IMO it's one of the most complete kits on the market for the money. In the States the system is $49.95 and the Upgrade kit is $29.95. Thanks for all of the great content, keep up the great work!
definitely in the plans!
For someone not after polished edges and who doesn't own any recurved knives, I think this will do well for me.
Would honestly recommend the spyderco sharp maker over this... This has far more options for degrees but being able to use the corners on the spyderco stones is a huge advantage
@@zleggitt1989 how so?
@@jonathanwatson268 simple deburring works better with the corners of the spyderco stones the the flats at least in my experience. Also the corners are great for serrated knives also the spyderco stones should last allot longer because there ceramic and not diamond coated. They have diamond coated if that's what your into but the ceramic stones will pretty much never wear. I think if this work sharp had actual triangle stones id like it a lot more
I like it, but, I can already see that its quite easy to tilt the knife and then you aren't doing the angle that you thought you were doing. The Spyderco Sharpmaker is very similar, but this is slicker. The Sharpmaker has the same exact issue, where you can easily tilt the knife into a new angle by accident.
I got my Benchmade 551 to an almost mirror edge with a lansky basic kit with just a 600 grit normal stone and a leather belt with no compound, could get damn closer to a mirror with a 1000 grit ceramic, and some compound on the belt. (If any one knows good compound to get a mirror edge let me know)
that system looks like it would be nice to use freehand (eg. hold the folding stones in one hand and sharpen with the other).
Also nice G-Shock! I approve :o)
It's DW5600E if I'm right. The best of the best and my favorite. 😍
You'll review the new worksharp precision adjust system, correct?
Lansky turn box is great to with rods for 20-30 bucks
Not that I'm trying to be a smart-ass but have you tried to put the left hand on top to hold the sharpener? With a gentle pressure looks it would be more steady
I think a video of the new Work Sharp Precision Adjust Knife Sharpener would be great.
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Damn... That song, when you start sharpening... You've had it in so many videos.
Could anyone help with the name of that song???
Is it 'Final Fantasy IX - Black Mage Village' perhaps? There are a few songs he uses regularly.
@@Dhari1 it is... Thank you!!!
It doesn’t look like you are using much pressure?
Spyderco sharpmaker has worked well for me this is definitely interesting but I see some drawbacks
Hey, do you have a list of recommended sharpeners for beginners, intermediate, etc.?
I’ll do a video on that topic! I’ll have to think about it
@@CedricAda awesome to hear, I look forward to it!
I'm only @ 1:56 and I'm liking it... Because you aren't opening it green and fumbling with no practice or experience. Thank you for that!
Okay... On with the video...
400 and 800 grit on the diamond stones/rods/plates... Whatever you want to call 'em.
I'm laughing so thanks for the corny music 😉
Not in any danger here folks! Brought back memories of Steve Irwin there.👍🏼 Aussie thumbs up 🇦🇺m8
Although this one is OK, I like their guided bench stone (with tilting base) much better, specially with upgrade kit.
Worksharp needs to make something like the KME or wiked edge but for much less then everybody could afford to sharpen like a pro 😎
Little bit more expensive than lansky turn box and way cheaper than Spyderco especially with extra diamond rods than cost more alone than work sharp. I think it's the best and most complete V sharpening system on the market. All work sharp products looks great and well priced. After 20 years of sharpening I prefer free hand sharpening on ceramic rods and I'm using Chinese "apex" only to make totally new cutting edge. Any way I hate the sound of course diamond stones:)
7 Boss theme for the AUS 8?
I like the cut of your anime jib
My Hero Academy. A decent manga.cheers guy.
I think as a beginer I think I would rather try the Lansky system.
I recommended the spyderco sharpmaker to a buddy and he easily got a razor edge almost never having sharpened before, but of course you should know your particular needs best
My favorite part was your shirt. I don't even know really why I'm watching this.
Interesting
Whose gonna make a wooden box or a base for it? I would. I would also make an articulating weighted arm with a cushion bottom to provide weight on the top. Both major problems solved. I haven't see a single knife sharpener system that didn't need some kind of improvement.
In order to do proper job with this system or Sharpmaker,you have to stand on top of this and look the blade above and control being perpendicular.You can see on the video that you are not stable at all...
yeah, i know. its hard to do it all for video though, without getting up and down and adjusting cameras and such. knives got sharp, its all good
Nice review, thanks!
Just a couple of thoughts.. No way the coarse stone is finer than 200 grit! It feels (and sounds) like somewhere between my 100 and 140 grit KME stone and it raised a burr on my Spyderco Cat in like 6 strokes. I'd only use it for reprofiling or restoring a chipped edge.
Second (now this may be the camera angle) but it didn't look like you were holding the Millie anywhere near vertical when touching up the serrations?
I have this one, the Sharpmaker and the KME and i feel it's a usable addition. I wouldn't want to have ony one of them to be honest.
Cheers!
The coarse is 320 grit - for the first time sharpening at the angle you select, reprofile with the coarse. After that, all you should need is the medium diamond.
In Oz 9 = 10?
This system seems very flimsy I don’t think it would last long. Thank You for the video.
When is a budget knife video coming? Would like to see something under 30 compared to something 150+
Sensei132 blade hq has tons of vids on that. As does like 100 other people
Personally I like the sharp maker better, just preference
for the sake of safety you shouldn’t take those caps/doors off. Then you would find all your non sharpening hand’s fingers quite safe. They stand at 45 degree for a reason.
Uncle Randy approved?
Little known fact: Pete sharpens light sabers for Jedi masters
Great video, I've been wondering about this one. On a personal note, I clicked on this video in the hopes of seeing an Onion named Ken being sharpened...I was disappointed.
Ken Onion is very sharp.
Awesome shirt! Are you up to date?
I’m not a rocket scientist but how is the 17.5 degrees setting not a more obtuse angle than the 20 degree if you moved the leg outwards as opposed to inwards?
He put it in the 20 and 15° slots which average to 17.5°
EDC elephant you’re right. I must of tuned out when he said the two most interior slots were set at fifteen degrees.
tl:dr don't sell my KME just yet.
Was that an electro version of GREENSLEEVES? ;p
Great, practical info. Going to suggest less music. It’s distracting.
schmutz! As we say here in NYC
John Shuttleworth Soundtrack. A jolly decent sharpener too.
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I’ve had this for 2 months I’ve haven’t tried it out yet
Prefer the Field Sharpener.
Um, just want to mention that through the entire sharpening process you had one side set to 20-degrees, and the other side set to 15-degrees. That might have caused any of the problems that you had in the functionality of the sharpening system. Honestly it seems decent. I like how few parts it has, and how compact it seems, but replacing the stones might end up being more expensive than buying a whole new sharpener.... EDIT: I read now that this is an intended feature to include more sharpening angles in the system, but I have to wonder if those additional angles are really worth having, when it would require you rebuilding your knife edge to have the two oddball ones. I think that really leaves my biggest concern being the price of replacing the "stones". Even on the Worksharp website there are no listed replacement parts, nor additional accessories, so you are stuck with the three grit levels you have.
Hey brother, l love your vids..but music while you are talking is little annoying.
You seem like such a talented chap.. plugged in.. With very low aspirations.. Still, I use your information - danke