Which 'Pocket' Sharpening System is Best? 7 Models Tested, Dull to Sharp on each
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I think the dc4 is the most versatile. Sharpen with the diamond, hone with the ceramic, and strop with the leather pouch.
I'm convinced the "Worksharp Pocket Knife Sharpener" is so named because it's intended to sharpen pocket knives, not because it's intended to be carried in a pocket.
Can confirm. It sharpens a knife scary sharp but isn’t really pocketable.
Yeah especially because it can stain your pockets
I'm really pleased with this! It works like a charm th-cam.com/users/postUgkxDcr-y2Pf6xdnrFHrSP7dl9kpKaCozcSQ Takes less time than my old electric sharpener because it can take more off the knife faster, and then it smooths out nicely with the finer grit polisher. I don't know how long it will last before the grit wears away, but I wouldn't mind having to replace it every once in a while.
Any field worker will know the value of leather pants impregnated with diamond paste honing compound.
Absolutely! I wear them inside out!
Yeah, leather UNDERWEAR would be sassier.
Leather pants..wow
Yes, indeed! See my comment of 2/5/21. A belt, with paste rubbed into the inside(rubbed in deeply) provides an always there strop.
I have to try impregnating using diamond paste.
I’ve happily used the Victorinox pocket sharpener for several years, but just discovered today (duh!) that the long cover snaps firmly in place on the short side, providing a stable and comfortable handle in use.
I know I'm 3 years too late but wanted to add that the Victorinox will also do serrated blades if you use the side of the stone. Great for the Soldiers SAK.
I've never seen anyone hold the stones at an angle and use it like a Sharpmaker. Thanks for the cool idea - I'll have to try that out next time.
Me too. I seldom sharpen at a table though I do it while chilling in my recluner.
Victorinox tip:
You can actually use the cover as a handle, just stick it where the V cap goes
I do that too
Yup best way to use it
Can it be used for blades longer than 22cm?
@@yusuffad8672 Would be pretty hard to hold the victorinox sharpener with a blade that long. However, you might be able to put the ceramic rod on the table to support it while you sharpen.
It could work but I wouldn't recommand it. For a blade that long I would use the Work Sharp Field Sharpener (not the pocket version, the big one !), a DMT stone or any whetstone.
(There is even guided sharpener like the Work Sharp Precision Adjust, around $50 but it is really really good, i managed to do hair splitting edges on this one)
@@yusuffad8672 I'm currently living in a serviced apartment in the middle east on a work assignment and I've sharpened the crappy kitchen knife the hotel provided using the Victorinox sharpener I brought with me - so yes works good - at least I can cut vegetables with their knife now :)
This was great! Loved it! Definitely what I I was looking for! Thank you for the work you put in Pete
I love this channel, I just found it only a few months ago but I’ll been watching your content and really enjoying it, thank you
This is a very enjoyable informative video, which must have cost you a fair bit to put together.
Thank you for your efforts.
I recently discovered your channel as i started to delve into knife sharpening again early this year.
I haven't watched a single video of yours where i didn't laugh and or learn something.
You have a great presentation style. As a brit i find you Aussies adorable. I love you guys out look on life.
Please keep up the good work. Your channel is very good 👍
Timestamps:
3:56 - EZ Lap
6:46 - Worksharp Micro Sharpener
10:05 - Benchmade EDC Sharpener
14:05 - Fallkniven FS3 Auto Sharpener
18:55 - Victorinox Pocket Sharpener
22:33 - Worksharp Pocket Knife Sharpener
26:06 - Fallkniven DC3
I'd pin this comment if I were you, just a suggestion
Good job on the almost daily videos recently, keep the good work up
Great video. As always. I just recently picked up and now keep the DC4 and CC4 (same thing but with an even finer ceramic on one end instead of the diamond stone) and with those two as a combo, I can keep a hair popping edge on my blades without almost ever having to do work to them at home. Both being a 2 x 4 footprint makes it nice if you're concerned with space. Pair those with a little compound on the back of one of the leather slips and you've essentially got a full sharpening kit that's portable!
Hey,
I was thinking about picking up both for the field and wondered if you still rock this and what are your views on it now?
Would really appreciate the feedback
Thanks
Great video! I have been looking for a video like this. Thanks!
Although (as you show) you can strop your knife against almost anything (trouser, belt, newspaper etc) I found it neat to simply glue a piece of leather on to one of the sides of the Worksharp Pocket Knife Sharpener. Actually I could not find a piece of leather laying around that was thick enough, so I used two layers. Cut to fit the "opening" on one of the sides and glued on. Works fine for stropping. Done the same with a Fällkniven DF24 sharpener, glued a piece of leather on the backside - whole length of handle. This is actually the "pocket" sharpener I prefer carry on longer hikes, as is weighs nothing and is easy fit in my repair kit bag.
Damn, Pete, I'm gonna have nightmares filled with that awful sound that the 110 made as you dulled it. Pretty sure it was screeching in pain.
Uncle Randy would be pissed, too, now that I think about it.
Jokes aside, I'm glad to hear that you are fully recovering and your voice is back to normal.
its aaaalmost there. Just a touch of a lisp, still got a stitch or two waiting to dissolve
@@CedricAda I'm positive those will be gone by the next video. Also, thank you for taking the time to review these sharpeners!
I already use a spyderco sharpmaker and the Ken Onion worksharp, but same as knives I always enjoy getting more sharpenning systems.
Arturo - I was about to make a similar post. Even though one can't sharpen a blade until it's dull, I was screaming NO on the inside.
@@CedricAda Missed a few systems =P
PETE what camera is this ? Gopro 8?
Amazing footage
It hurt my teeth
I used the Work Sharp while hiking the PCT this year-weighs next to nothing and gives you plenty of room to work with 👍🏼
I'm very glad you posted this video. I'm actually on the market for a pocket sharpener. Thank you.
Worksharp field sharpener is about the same size as the larger worksharp you have but gives you SOO much more. Get a rough diamond plate that is much larger and also a fine diamond plate. A leather strop and a ceramic rod. Basically they simply put the diamond plates in the center where there is nothing being used and put the strop where the rough diamond plate it and it's where I learned to sharpen... Great first sharpener
ill second that, i have one its pretty good for quick and dirty sharpening when you dont wanna go to a whole system ... also great for in a vehicle or bag
@@RobTheOgre I think it's better than down and dirty...if you use a good compound on the strop you can get a better than decent edge.
@@fldiverjc4496 i fully agree, you can get a great edge with it ... i just mean your not gonna get your mirror polish fancy edges on it like a full system
Whoa, good timing. I was thinking of picking up something like this.
I keep an emery board, the thick double sided kind like you use for nails in my backpack, and have been using it to sharpen sak's, 8cr, aus8, and buck knives for years. Strop on the back of my leather belt when done. Cost me a dollar at a beauty supply place.
Huh, I should give that a try some day.
Make sure you buy a high quality emery board. Cheap ones all the abrasive will come off in a couple passes if it's a cheap one... A good emery board will cost about 3 bucks each. A good one will have one side with about 250 grit silicon carbide and the other side will be about 800 grit silicon carbide... A good board Will refresh an edge on a knife about 10 times depending on how hard the steel is.. But it will touch up even K390 at 67HRC
Great idea man ✌🏻
good roundup. I liked the Australian Philharmonic music played during the demonstration.
Credit to Buck's metallurgy that they can make 420HC cut even slightly after being dragged across a ceramic brick.
I'm quite pleased with my DC4. The diamond side is aggressive enough to do some serious work, while the ceramic is fine enough to get a perfectly workable edge. And the two sides aren't so disparate that you'd need a third grit in the middle.
Nice roundup👍🏻 The victorinox is a really handy little tool, I use the edge of mine for adding/enlarging sharpening choils a lot. The cover also doubles up as a handle which makes it more comfortable to use too, the only thing I’m not so keen on myself is the clip which is a bit flimsy.
I think it’s best.
Dog ate clip. Problem solved :)
One of my favourite vids buddy I’m always looking at pocket sharpeners and I’ve been looking at the Victorinox for a long time I might just grab one now. I also wanted to invite you to have a look at a new knife guys channel. I started a channel about 3 months ago and I give you a shout out and always mention your steel testing. Thanks for the hard work and all the information. Keep it up buddy.
This is some amazing content thank you for doing this so I don’t have to. Glad you are healed up.
I liked your attempt at unbiased testing (dulling the knife each time). Good job!
My field sharpening kit contain a DMT 1X4 extra coarse, a Fallkniven CC4 and a DIY 4" strop made from an old wood ruler. Still super portable and lightweight but when i am in the field (somtimes for weeks) i am prepared from "i need a Touch up" to "i need to reprofile" and this setup keeps me going
I use Fällkniven CC4 or DC4 (old version of ceramic). If going the economical route just glue some sandpaper (the ones you can use wet) with grit of your choise to a flat piece of wood. Use this as a strop to prolong the usable service of the sandpaper. Grit I use is about 240 and 800 because thats what I have at hand.
Wet-dry sandpaper on wood is an excellent idea.👍 You can make it any size you like, pick your choice of grits, spend $5 and still have 3 pieces of sandpaper left over!
One could also buy a plain small ceramic rod for like $6 if you want to get fancy, and just make a slip for it. 70+ bucks for that Benchmade is crazy! Very expensive 'butterfly tax'. lol
Good vid. I would just use that little DC3 stone by holding it between thumb and a finger, holding it up so I could see the bevel contact, and freehand sharpening that way.
I suggest the eze-lap dual sided pocket stones. They're around $22. They have a fine diamond side and an ultra-fine ceramic side. They are all you will ever need for basic honing and finishing, but you will need more coarse stuff for reprofiling really messed up edges and maybe a strop for making the edge perfect before storage. No gimmicks with these, just a nicely sized stone in a little leather pocket sheath.
dont need a strop, its untreated leather case makes a better strop than the fallkniven, because you can also load it with compound if you like.
Thanks bud, I picked up the victorinox and have since been able to recommend it to others asking about it. Hey whaddya know, yer channel is helping people! :-)
Work sharp makes another version. It has 2 diamond plates, a ceramic, a leather strop. Ive had it for 2 years, its nice. You can replace the plates as well if need be. Sometimes I just grab the light diamond plate and throw it in my pocket, as I always wear a leather belt.
Dreoilín ÓCoigligh I have that and love it. Actually I removed the diamond plates and it’s much lighter for field use.
Have it too. Love it. Very comprehensive little jobbie.
Dreoilín ÓCoigligh that’s the one I got if I’m going somewhere it goes in bag but I put bands so plates don’t fall off in travel but that is my all time favorite
Just now looking to buy my first sharpener....this was a great video to watch first!
This was a fantastic review.
Great vid,very helpful,thanks
Thanks for the advice.
With these smaller stones I find it easier to grind the stone against the knife instead of grinding the knife against the stone
yup , been doin that for 50 years. better , consistent angles.
Yeah everyone knows that except the guy who is showing us all how to sharpen a knife 😂😂😂
Yes. I even use Spyderco Triangle Sharp maker stones like that with no base. The 400 F set is my best friend outdoors tho. The more you hone the less you sharpen, up to a point😂 The rods can handle about anything for a field edge
@ 27:20 flipping the knife and then flipping the stone had me dying haha
Fun fact, I have heard the angle on the side of the victorinox is designed for their serations.
in victorinox sharpener place the long protection case in the ''v'' shape sharpener side as an extra handle grip.the ''v'' shape sharpener works in 45 degrees angle.
Nikos Doulas NikGyver I was yelling “use the handle!!”
I have the Benchmade Worksharp it has two diamond panels, one ceramic and a strop on it. It was a gift, so I didn’t pay the silly price but it will put a razor edge on most knives.
Think you'd like the work sharp field sharpener it's like the pocket one but comes with a reversible diamond stone, a fine and a course, the cermaic rod and a leather strip and its about the same size just a tad heavier!
Thanks...I was looking for one of you guys to do this....it looks like some are much better than others...at least in terms of their purpose. I like the WorkSharp best...I think...lol.
That Work Sharp is the best. May be a little on the large size but you don't realize THIS is the must-have sharpener until you use it.
Best technique i found with the WS Micro sharpener is to bring the tool to the edge and stroke the edge horizontally to the ceramic/diamond rod. Its wierd, but it works on any edge!
Great video man. Loved it. Have you ever heard of the handy sharp from sharpens best ? If so can you do a review? It’s like one of those pocket sharpener. Thanks
Nice comparison! I found that Victorinox one in a German souvenir shop for less then ten bucks a few years ago. You are missing the best one of them all though: the Spyderco Doublestuff has become my go-to traveling sharpener after trying out many of these myself. Love that thing.
Check out the worksharp guided field sharpener. Rough diamond plate one side. Fine diamond plate other side, rotatable ceramic rod with rough, smooth and fish hook groove, small ceramic rod for serrations and leather strip mother side. Awesome
Useful reviews, diabolical music! I like the Victorinox pen sharpener quite a bit, I've used one for years, and it's durable and reliable. Surprised you didn't cover the Lansky Blade Medic, that's quite popular. I also have the Lansky Tactical Sharpener, which has a retractable diamond rod - it works very well, but it's pretty heavy for something that's intended to be carried around.
The dmt diamonds and the spyderco doublestuff are my favorite sharpeners to carry with me
Have you ever used the fallkniven cc3 or cc4?
@@deathbyastonishment7930 yes i have used the dc4 and the cc4. i prefere the spyderco ceramics to the fällknivens and the dmt for diamond option
I have and use 3 grades of the ezylap tools (Fine being the most coarse) for sharpening and maintainig a range of tools from axes, through to a range of knives and wood cutting tools, and have no complaints with them at all. I have a range of other sharpening tools of coarse, but the Ezylap diamond sharpeners are the easiest for me to carry and use.
Thanks Pete!
That poor, poor Buck... Lol, great video btw!!!
hello how is the performance of benchmade edc edge maintenance compared to others?
Thanks for the timely review Pete. I'm new to sharpening my outdoor knifes and currently in the market for a small portable camping/survival sharpener. You have some great products. Surprised there was no Lansky sharpener like the "Blade Medic" for a true pocket sharpener? Are they junk?
Knife cutting stone - eyes bleeding. Nice to see you recovered :-)
I bought that Victorinox pen style sharpener for touching up my SAK. I'm glad it seems more than adequate.
It's worth mentioning you can get away with a lot with ceramic and pressure on the stone and is potentially much more versatile than course grits. If I put a bunch of force on it and do it enough times, I can remove a hell of a lot of metal from even things like vanadium carbide steels. And if I apply feather light pressure I can lower the amount of metal being removed and make it seem like a finer grit pass. You can't really do the same with course stones, especially very course stones, and apply light enough pressure to still remove metal but not leave larger scratch patterns. I say this mostly about diamond and aluminum oxide stones. Diamond, being as hard as it is, is going to remove metal and make scratches if you make any significant contact because even the hardest knife steels are still no where as hard as diamond is. You can lower the aggressiveness of diamond with pressure on the stone and bevel, but given diamond's properties it will always be more aggressive than if it was the same "grit" in ceramic.
It's a versatility and speed/effectiveness trade-off. Diamond is much, much faster. Ceramic is much more versatile, but slower. It's always better to have both, I say.
Nice video, Pete. Very informative. Thanks for your hard work bringing it to us.
At least now I know I have some choices.
Have you done any videos about 'Lansky' sharpeners? Sorry if you have, I'm a bit late to the party!
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May be picking up the victorinox one. Thanks.
❤ love this channel
I've had great success with diamond DMT Diafolds. Single or double sided so choose your grits. Very pocketable and have a work area that long enough. A bigger investment but worth it.
Own a DMT diafold myself. Works well and YMMV but personally was just a bit too bulky to fit where I wanted it, plus the butterfly handles feel cheap and seem to like opening up randomly whenever I tossed it in the pack. Found myself not really wanting to bring it along much... Just picked up one of the victorinox sharpeners myself to replace it. Smaller, seems better designed, and will be a lot easier to slip in a pouch.
Hey what’s the material of the victorinox? Is it diamond or ceramic or a mixture of some kind?
Great video thank you
What's the music at the Victorinox sharpener? Big thanks for the comparison charts.
Great video mate cheers.
Where do you go to buy these in Australia?
HA I was just looking for a super compact sharpening tool to fit in the little pouch of the Ontario 499!
What would be best for a leather man wave blade?
The Best are the Worksharp field sharpener, the Fallkniven CC4. For pocket knives and Victorinox SAKS, their Dual knife sharpener, is a quality option, that can be used from both more experienced users and not experienced ones. Victorinox also makes a small orange colour stone. which is kind of medium grid, however, works really good for it's size. Only con with that, is that it isn't ceramic, so you cant avoid dishing.
Hi, how much time you spend for each device? For field conditions this is no less important factor.
Thx Pete
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One other thing that popped into my head - I remember way back when I got into knives, and more specifically woodcarving, I was told by quite a few people that for touch ups in between proper sharpening sessions it's best to use trailing edge strokes on pocket/field sharpeners. I'd be curious if there is a significant difference in the efficiency of trailing edge vs leading edge passes on these systems.
Great video! I should have watched it before I did my video review of the Victorinox sharpener - then I would have seen a better way to hold the stone. I know better now! 🙂
Spyderco Double Stuff is great and the DMT Diafold is another good option
Yeah, I have the doublestuff with ceramic/CBN sides. Bit longer than the DC4 & has radiused edges for use on recurves or serrations. Until very recently, I actually used my doublestuff for touchups at home. Now it's a mainstay of the weekend bag.
Have the DMT diafold and just bought the victorinox sharpener to replace it. Diafold works great, don't get me wrong, but I personally just found it a bit too bulky and never actually wanted to toss it in my pack. Also, the butterfly handles are really flimsy and flex a lot.
I know it isn't the subject; when I travel it is usually a week or two, so I just take a strop mounted on wood and loaded with green compound. I rarely sharpen with anything else.
I do not have any Purple Jeans, I'm just curious as to the micron rating on such glorious set of pant strops? Keep up the great work!!!!
Big fan of the DC04 and CC04, i even bought a DC521. I have Victorinox ones too.
How would the spyderco doublestuff compare?
Hi!
Noticed you didn't raise a burr.. im therefore thinking that it's fine not to if it's just a touch up? When would you recommend raising a burr.? Any help would be massively appreciated
The sharpening music is killing me. 😁 I'm going with the Victorinox pen.
the music is giving me 2015 nostalgia
Lmfaooo love your vids man, wicked medieval helm haha
I use an unbranded folding diamond field sharpener from ebay for like $6. It's actually really great. Its 400 one side and 600 the other and it folds out like a butterfly knife.
Have you checked out the worksharp guided field sharpener? It’s got coarse and fine diamond plates, a coarse and fine ceramic, and a strop. It’s about $25 American dollars and I think it’s about the same size as the worksharp pocket sharpener.
I was just about to say that. I think it's the most versatile complete package on the market....
@Mickey McH practice makes perfect....just try to keep in mind this is for the time you are away from the kme...its purpose is to put a very serviceable edge on your knife while in the field...or in my case boat..lol
It's much better for your blades then some of the portable pull through sharpeners flooding the market.
I have a couple of the little DMT foldable sharpeners I like to use, but they aren't quite as small in pocket as something like the Victorinox would be.
Did worksharp ever offer a non-Benchmade branded version of that folding pocket hone/strop?
any thoughts on the Sharpens Best handheld carbide shapener??
A comment to the Worksharp Pocket Knife Sharpener: I think the shape of the frame is made in that way, that you can use it vertical like the Victorinox sharpener. Then it defines the grinding angle if you hold the knife straight with the blade to the ground.
that makes sense!! I was using it like the slightly bigger field sharpener! Cheers for the tip :)
I like the Spyderco Double Stuff (best stones, but a little too long to hold between the thumb and middle finger).
The DC4 could be a little bigger and the ceramic side is too coarse after the diamond. The CC4 comes with a nice fine side which I would prefer on the DC4 too.
I also like the small 4'' metal bench stones from DMT. Would be nice if DMT glued a fine ceramic on the other side. I know some of the foldable DMT sharpeners have that ceramic side. But I don't like those plastic sharpeners.
Work sharp field sharpener has 2 diamond plates, ceramic, and a strop. Its amazing.
Bonjour So which one is the best ?
Very useful video, thanks for that Cedric. I wish you would have summed up a little better at the end. Love your vids, keep going please 😊👍👍
Was this video in the can before your surgery, or did you mend that quickly between the last vid and now? I hope it was the latter and you are feeling normal again.👍
I carry the Worksharp Guided Field Sharpener and love it, but I think I am going to swap out to that smaller pocket kit with the bits for better carry-ability. Thanks, Paul.
Had some stitches come out so that freed a few things up in there 😊
On the work Sharp micro sharpener, I think it’s a lot easier to move the stones across the edge, instead of moving the knife across the stone. Good Video👍
On the victorinox sharpener, you can fit the case upside down and get a longer handle when sharpening.
Good content for this video, have been wondering if any pocket sharpener is actually worth it.
Need to try field sharpener. And spyderco double stuff??
Something strange and satisfying about listening to Undertale music and watching you sharpen knives lol. Great video.