Does this Kiriko actually deserve GOLD???
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I like the contrast of Flats and Emmong's spectating bronze: one smashes your head against a brick wall and drags you across it. The other slaps your face with a silk glove while remaining slightly chivalrous with their advice.
the image of emongg slapping someone with a silk glove is hilarious
Emongg doing a double take or grimacing in cringe/disbelief is always perfect alongside the optimism
emongg will calmly explain why what they're doing it stupid while being very nice. flats will do the same while comparing their mechanical skill to a walnut.
@@PurpleMoon799 Flats gets to prepare a whole meal sometimes
I'd say flats is a walking L but I don't really think he even walks
The “if you saw this then you’d think I was way past bronze” phrase sends a thrill down my spine because 9/10 it’s total ego bs lmao
no no no he definitely is way past bronze. so past in fact that hes all the way into wood tier
@Real_MisterSir that's an insult to wood
@@CobraKlNG Rotten wood, then?
@@Real_MisterSir Wet cardboard 4 at best
@@Sac-chanmaybe soggy toilet paper 7
Bro was giving more heals to the walls, the enemy team and the payload more than his own teammates
This is why ofuda toggle is important
@@dash_naa2944he did have the correct settings, u can see he is not always firing all his ofuda
@@kamy6305I mean to be fair he’s bronze 5 (not too intelligent)
Havana thanks this Kiriko for the constant heals it's recieving, maybe even the Payload and enemy team as well.
This Kiriko could probably even heal the wounds of Activision Blizzard
@@Real_MisterSirhat will take awhile....Or not at all
I love how a bronze’s concept of “they’re playing mystery heroes” is someone trying to change it up to go against a comp that’s rolling them. Bronze replays are always a treat
Lucio/Brig: changes hero literally once the entire game
Kiriko, somehow: mYsTeRy HeRoS
Bap, Moira, Lucio, and Brig is half the Support roster. Literally only Mercy, LifeWeaver, and Ana left available.
@@KoiPuff I mean yeah, support has a limited roster, but an average of one swap per round (not game lol, mb) isn't even close to changing heros every time you die. also poor Zen, forgotten entirely xD
@@KoiPuff Zen...?
@@shayforest The point is that from Kiriko's perspective the other support changed a lot, which is still true.
@@KoiPuffzenyatta😔
damn, this was SCATHING. Don't think I've ever seen emongg be this mean before 😂😂
Maybe not as mean as Flats bronze roasts, but Emongg is NOT taking any shit here
@@andrewp2681 I noticed Emongg mainly roasts people if they roast their own team and do worse than them, or simply if they have a lot of ego. Both in this case...
@@WallaceEpiro ah yes, I was wondering why this felt more roasty than the widow ego one but the widow didn't bash their teammates, but this kiriko did! Makes more sense now!
@@WallaceEpiro tbh people who bash their teammates instead of taking accountability for contribution to the loss deserve it
Nothing humbles an overinflated ego like Emongg’s subtle way of pointing out just how much you could do to improve lol
The "What is going on over here" followed by the centaur torb got me dead 💀
CenTorb 😂
What the lindholm family recipe does to a mfrr
@caledoncrosse1751 bro I'm dead
torbisa
When Ramattra said "Suffer as I have"
He didn't have to suffer witnessing 2 useless kitsune rushes on walls.
Ramattra.. You haven't suffered yet buddy
This guy has better aim with his Kunai than the homing healing lmao
Emongg is not havin’ the hubris today 😂
You gotta give your dps the chance to do something by supporting them. This Kiri focused too much on dps and not enough on the team. The other support basically had to solo heal
"I can't fathom what I could've done differently" = "I don't have the skill to have played better if I tried"
The discipline to support first and Dps later is also a skill.
Also absolutely loving how this audacity-filled Kirkland main really gave the fox the PETA treatment and then boasted about being too good for the team
kirkland main
@@daveadoforblesse9710I said what I said lol. I didn’t notice the autocorrect but I feel like it also sums up my opinion on the character well
One of the main things I try to do as a Kiriko main is have line of sight with the whole team. Many times this kiriko only focused on the people directly in front of them which is why they probably weren’t aware of how decent the dps’ were playing. Also healing the walls is classic bronze behavior.
i always want to do this, but sometimes it means i'd end up too far back and my heals would take too long traveling to be as effective. how do you deal with this problem? if the team's spread out, do you just move up with the majority of the team and make sure to keep an eye on whoever's not in direct los? or is there some other tip?
@@no_i_dont_want_no_slugsthis may sound like dumb advice, but the answer to your problem is to look around more often. the answer isn't to keep everyone more or less in front of you. the answer is to look around more. you want to be aware of where your teammates are and you want to be frequently checking on them. you want to be aware of (1) if they need support immediately and (2) if they are going to need support in a second. you need to know where people are and how they're doing so you can tp to them with a suzu to save them or some kunai to help them secure a kill they're chasing. but you also need to be close ish to people in order for your healing to reach them sometime before the end of the round. thankfully, Kiriko can teleport through walls and it has a relatively short cool down. you have this ability and you should use it!
re: who you should be staying with, my rule of thumb as a support is that, if the team is split up, both groups need a support with them. yes, this can mean supporting a risky flank because (1) the presence of a support greatly increases the chance of success and (2) you are playing the perfect hero to support risky plays because you can easily escape if it goes poorly. but just in general, it's always a good idea for teammates to have a support with them at all times, even/especially when split up.
@@no_i_dont_want_no_slugs imo it unfortunately comes down a lot to game sense.
First question i would ask is, what is your team comp like? If your other support is say, an ana who will have full vision of your tank all the time while your dps are diving genjis, you have the option to play closer to the sidelines/frontlines to support your dps and have trust that your ana can more or less handle your tank for you and even support you. If you have a moira too, expect that she will be close to your tank and so you will need to track your further back dps so you can heal when a fight breaks out that your moira cant reach.
Kiri in general does decent in the midrange where she isnt frontlining but also not too far that her heals take 8 years to get there. Also important is that she is able to get to highground easily so use that to get a birds eye view as often as possible, since it helps to reduce the tunnel visioning that can happen when youre in the face of the enemy tank. You also have the option to flank for a couple shots then quickly tp back to your midlines to apply pressure on enemies, since a good shot does so much damage that it forces any non-tank to ease pressure on your team until they heal
I am personally more sensitive to sound so i pick up audio cues like bullets heading towards my backlines or flankers pretty clearly. If i see bullet tracers heading towards someone behind me, i shift attention to check on them to see if they need help too. Instead of having eyes directly on them, using cues from the enemies can be helpful so that you dont need to be doing 360s all the time hahaha
With that many counters (Moira, Mei, Rammatra and Kiriko) Genji should have just changed hero after first point
It's bronze tho, nobody can truly counter anything. As long as Genji can apply some pressure, not die, and get at least 1 blade kills per ult, he's doing just fine. Sure an easier spam hero like Junkrat could probably farm value much easier, but dude wasn't doing poorly. Just an avg bronze player
@@Real_MisterSir True true true. XD just the presence of *A Genji* in bronze is enough to make them quiver
@@kanekianti-sora1666faint murmurs of the name Genji Shimada in bronze is enough to cause fear lol
@@Real_MisterSir A Bronze Moira has only two goals: Kill enemy Mercy and Kill enemy Genji. He was playing so passive bc that Moira had his number every time he went in
as a annoyingly stubborn person I support their annoyingly stubborn decision to stay genji
“i had to play dps kiriko” my brother in christ you were dpsing and healing walls from the start of the match😭 this feels like a classic case of “my team didn’t play how i like to play, therefore they are bad and i am the only person in the world who knows how to play this 7 year old game”
as someone. who is a kiriko main and in gold.. i would say silver at highest. they’re more reactive than proactive. they’re not bad, but i believe there’s always room for improvement! keep up the good work you’ll get there.
Gold 1 Support main here. I don’t think he could handle silver. He’s exactly where he belongs with his terrible heal prioritization and bizarre positioning.
As main silver support, I don't think he can even touch silver at the moment
@@ssanc6bro silver is still bronze I think he could easily anybody should be able to since it’s an ass rank
He's in Bronze. He is bad.
@@Mewmewiosilver and bronze are distinct ranks. this Kiriko player is not in silver because they don't have the skills necessary to be silver. just because you think they're all shit ranks doesn't mean there isn't a difference and a reason why someone is in one and not the other.
Gotta love how they are able to play fine when the cart hasn't pushed past 1st corner yet - but the moment the enemy team actually starts applying the slightest amount of pressure, the Kiriko player just folds over lol. Instant miss on Suzu point blank, uses Kitsune way too late and lets her Bap die in front of her, proceeds to scramble to safety.
"I will clearly look like I belong in a higher rank" - dude you just folded to the first sign of what is literal Bronze pressure. You need to more intuitively read the flow of the match, and predict the near future outcomes, before you're worthy of anywhere close to Gold.
she left her lucio to die at 14:01 too. a suzu would've saved him
I think the mystery heroes comment for the other support was for the first half of the game, they did swap a few times (baptiste/moira/brig) but I think that support realized the team wasn't getting healed so they kept trying to balance maximizing healing with trying to keep themselves alive.Totally get that mindset and NOT that support's fault at all they kept having to swap to find a good choice. The kiriko's dps aim is imo kind of impressive for bronze? I'm a gold support player and have seen worse aim in gold (including myself lmao). But the healing is just so poor, I have to imagine that they don't realize you need to aim to heal with her or they just don't actually want to be playing support.
the ego do be a little crazy but i think if they prioritize healing + learn better kitsune positioning they'll probably improve pretty fast
No shot that kiriko actually wasted 2 kitsune rushes in a row
Technically 3 because there was the rush she just never used at the end of round 1.
This went from spectating to a full on roast... I love it.
As bad as the Kiriko was, that Genji needed to swap off HARD
you would think a team of mei, moira, kiri, ram hell even hanzo would be their biggest nightmare 😂
Man, as someone who plays a decent chunk of Kiriko, those Kitsunes made me sad. This Kiriko had many great chances and angles for Kitsune, but just dawdled and then used it way too late (or never, in the case of the end of round 1) AND at a bad angle.
And also, as someone who plays a decent chunk of Kiriko, I have made errors with map geometry too, or bad suzus, etc. But I would certainly never take a game where I made these egregious errors as an example of "my team is trash I did everything".
Also based on the submission text, I expected this Kiriko to actually go dps and not just occasionally hit some kunai that got woven in. Enemy Ramattra flanked more than this Kiriko did lmao (that was such a fantastic moment to discover). I love Emongg's awareness that he ALWAYS seems to notice weird things other players in the match do. A lot of other content creators miss something like that until their chat spams at them.
They probably would be a much better dps; since they wouldn't have to worry about healing and they have good aim.
I think this guy is delusional. Classic "my teammates are holding me back" COPIUM
It always is. No one is ever held back by teammates. Its always cope bc they ignore the other 50 games where they did nothing of value to win just to blame it on the game where their teammates were bad. And tbh in this game the kiriko had the awareness of an unpeeled peanut, he literally never gave anyone who actually needed healing any heals. At that point hes making it a 4v5 for the rest of his team.
Loving your videos, liked and subbed! Can’t believe I never found your content until today. I love bronze gameplay 😂
Love the vid, keep up the good content
This kiriko could be gold if only they had better positioning, better awareness, more mechanical skill, cooldown usage, ult usage, gamesense, target focus, and accuracy. That is all.
Right on time for the Emongg upload 😎
Nah man’s in cardboard 7, although nice of them to heal and kitsune the walls
I love angry emongg you can tell the person blaming their team peeved him lol
Can I just say the kiriko had someone called necros on her team😅😂 and that hanzo just destroyed your team😂😂
one thing worth adding with the kiriko bug going on right now be careful about tp'ing too close to cart as you might tp backwards onto cart and potentially waste the cooldown. so make sure if you are pushing the cart as kiri that you get away from it before you tp. hopefully blizzard fixes this bug.
Don’t mess with the sniping Genji 🔥
Someone listened to the advice that you "need" to do damage to rank up as support but also only hits lucky, point blank or targets stood still shots.
4:13 i felt that tp
Emongg is RAZZING today
17:30 I think he was still down 2 as Brig just respawn.
I, a president of the Moira council, approve of this playstyle as well as this ego.
Ah the good old ego vod
This person must have been trolling when writing what happened
Torb turned into a Dachsund. Lmao
Bro got a few kills and thought he was carrying lmao
As a former Gold Kiriko player this man is tweaking insanely because his Ult usage was abysmal fr, the healing the walls is fine because Kiriko’s papers are a bitch to aim on moving targets but ulting a point blank wall and waiting half a team fight at the end of the game to ult sideways on a narrow pathway are crazy Ls that probably did more harm than anything the rest of his team did. Ion like to criticize cuz I’m only like 150ish hours into the game but bro belongs in B5 where I’m hardstuck fucking around as Tank because there’s less Mei/Sym in comp than QP
Peeking a Hanzo in general is wild.
Emongg said he not here for the ego
All powerful Fox Spirit... can't handle walls.
emong is in the LTG arch
Look I’m gold on kiriko and although I don’t throw my kitsune into walls very often, and suzu basically full health targets and leave the other support to fend for themselves after they’ve been getting rolled… this is basically what it looks like when I play. Crazy how little mistakes like that are the difference between 2-3 ranks, my kunai aim isn’t much better than theirs, it just feels weird.
The reason is precisely the kitsune and suzu (not to mention you probably actually heal targets properly). Its a way bigger difference than you think, since kitsune alone is able to change the tide of a fight. Using 1-2 kitsunes in an okay way (unlike this guy who uses it when a fight is already over) is enough to secure those 2 fights. If you also DONT waste heals on the walls like this guy, you likely are building way more kitsunes than them and way faster too. In the larger scheme of things winning 1-2 fights is the difference between defending a point/pushing past one = better odds of winning & ranking. Its the reason why theres such a huge discrepancy in divisions. You dont necessarily need aim in OW either, as gamesense will take you further than aim.
As a gold support, dps, and silver tank. I'd crush anyone on that team using a handful of the heroes I'm not great with. The difference between gold and bronze is massive.
Emongg tried his best to be nice😭😂 but like mannn what game was that guy playing cause it wasn’t what he described😭😭
Bro heals air
seemed like a team diff but this guy made it an ego diff by not healing his team on the second round
The suzus are so funny
Salty Emongg is fun 🤣 Not mean just salty.
Players like this is because I turned off teamchat(voice chat on), keyboard warriors and even If someone explains why they are wrong(when they are wrong, not saying they are always wrong) they will still say the same thing. Also helped me to just say in my mind 'gg go next' (don't stop trying to win) when I think some teammates are really underperforming. Because dosen't matter if you have one bad teammate in some games, if you really play better than them you will climb and they don't.
I think a lot of people in bronze hold their ults to counter other ults instead of proactively using it to give your team the advantage. This is shown on that team fight at the beginning during round one where on ult got popped and then 2-3 more got popped after that. Even if you lose the team fight, your ult still got value because your team has the ult advantage. This person doesn’t even have an understanding of the basic fundamentals of the game.
When the support think they are the shit, but did a Facebook and just skipped the the.
chat is this real
this guy only healed their mates when they were full life I feel like
yea, pretty much every support below plat
aidenbover here blaming his support for being hardstuck in low elo
@@cooltwittertag i’m a top 500 support
well i peaked like ranked 220 this season, most of the player base sucks at the game anyway not just supports
@@aidenmontgomery9205 top 500? That's low man I'm over here at top -0 I passed the best players and became the ultimate overwatch player
Ah the classic "We lost and it's everyone else's fault except mine, because I'm clearly the best."
I try to lock onto my teammates, heal the full amount, before I move my cursor off them. This guy just swings his camera around and hopes his crosshair goes over someone.
4:50 Walking in a straight line at a Hanzo!? I guess it's a good thing he's bronze 5 lol
my cheeks were clenching so hard at that moment lmao, was like "no no no no no what are you doing noo move aside don't just walk into him stooop"
If this person was in my gold games I would report them for greifing.
Not breaking ults and using abilities at random. The bronze 5 special.
Its crazy to me when people complain about not getting healed when this is what i start doing and we lose the game because of it and they still complain about healing lmao
Bronze lucios always get beat fast. Because they only heal, never use speed and the team always play together like a fish shoal
im gonna be honest as a kiri in gold/plat, i dont ult track for suzu
His rank: Rock 😂
This person does not belong in bronze5 he belongs in paper5
i mean, it seems they don’t even realize kiriko can’t heal through walls and have no concept of support’s general positioning guidelines. bronze 1 at best. if they played the hero properly it would’ve been more helpful but i still wished they’d swap so many times.
They posted their POTG in chat and I bet they were like “OHHH YEAH I POPPED OFF NOT YOU GUYS HAHA TRASH”
In reality if this person got POTG, this team had to be SO bad, and so HORRIBLE that they got POTG 😭
Even in just gold this guy would've been eaten alive so badly they'd quit forever
And because he's healing the map most of the time, the teammates also gets eaten.
how can i get in one of you vids
Kiriko: "I belong in Gold or higher."
All I'm thinking is "No, you're actually holding your Bronze team back, dude..."
The people saying that he could make silver, haven't seen a silver game in a while. This dude is Bronze through and through.
TBH, genji is not the pick against a ram, mei, hanzo, moira, and kari
you can tell its a bronze game just from the length of the names alone
The one thing I don't like is when people focus so much on others gameplay that their own gameplay starts to become terrible.
honestly they play kiriko like me but worse in every way, and I'm gold. I'm going to guess they'll stay bronze for now just like I'll stay stuck in gold 3
"genji can't make plays into this comp because they have a moira, mei, kiri..." well then he should get off genji, right?
You know when someone says “I deserve gold” you’re about to see the bronzest shit ever
The amount of healing the walls got in this match was crazy.
"I cant fathom what i could have done differently."
Well, theres your problem. If you watch your own replays and think theres no mistakes, you're delusional.
He was playing with necros and still lost
This kiriko deserves toilet 5, what are these heals and rushes...
This is quite literally the least impactful player i have ever seen in the game
@@cooltwittertagyeah I won’t pretend I’m an amazing support main but I’m soothed by this kiriko existing
Sometimes look what you did before complaining
This Kiriko was: doing too much dps without healing their tank and dps letting them die, healing walls, saving their kitsunes for OW3 and the moment where they use it is when their Dva gets demeched. This is just a classic Kiriko main´s inflated ago
no 💀
bro deserves toilet paper 3
I don't care if they're good or not, cuz I'm typing this comment before I see the video. I already dislike them just from reading their intro to the game.
as a gold 2 support..... don't let this kiri into my rank, please. so much wasted healing, every ult wasted, and absolutely no situational awareness, ESPECIALLY for teammates.
I'll never understand the low rank support players cause they are either heal botting and don't know how to play the character or they wannabe DPS players that feed or they know how to play the character but don't use their ult at all💀bronze and silver supports are always a mystery
Emongg you weren't very nice to this kid
That's all well and good. But I mean, what does a vod really show? That's right, nothing special. Now the screenshots this person took, now THAT's where the real stuff we need to see is.
I will say. when you're waiting on just a little health for regen before throwing more knives, if you're not super close to a health pack, ducking behind cover and pre-healing anything your team might take is perfectly acceptable.
he ragged on it at the start but I understand what the kiriko was going for. he just did it wrong since the enemy still had an LOS on him
Everything else in the video? pretty shit
I see so many healers just hold the healing button without processing what's on their screen. Especially pains me with Moira. Everyone is full hp, why are you pissing all your heals? Dmg and tanks also, beat that healing button like a dick without a single braincell there to understand that healers are dead or out of LOS. 404 consciousness not found
I love watching shit players full PANIC when rams pop ult 😂😂
Sooo kunai aim was fine.
CD usage bad, ult usage, ofuda aim and awareness about the teammates abysmal. Would love to see the scoreboard on this one. Bet the other support completely outclassed this Kiriko...
Gold 🤣🤣🤣
Yea that's not a Gold Kiri that's for sure