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You know it's gonna be good when the guy thinks that you "Roast" a "Grilled Cheese Sandwich"
lool yeah exactly!
Yeah, EVERYONE knows your supposed to boil a grilled cheese sandwich, what a doofus
When im on support that is my worst habit...i run to a place i know i shouldn't be because my teammate is off in Narnia and i try to save them and we both end up getting rolled 😂
The best thing you can do is start the match by typing something like "friendly reminder to play LoS" or "remember that I can't heal through walls, play LoS". It does help a bit, but if they want to push too far, just gently remind them to fall back for heals next time.
And if they do push too far, for anyone who plays comp and uses voice, I've had the most success with saying something like "[character name] I'm/we're not with you" to bring attention to the fact that they've left the team behind. Like theoretically they SHOULD be aware, but a lot of the time they're not, especially in lower ELOs. From my experience, saying that often made come back if they got low, or they'd even come back right away because they didn't mean to go that far.
for me it usually ends with THEM surviving and me dying in their stead, because they just use a cooldown to bug out after i saved their life and leave me hanging against the guys that tried to kill them
@@Handles_AreStupidEven if I spam, my teammates wont listen and blame me as support and Im in high plat/low diamond lobbies
Real
Emongg is the embodiment of "do as I say, not as I do". Because whenever he's giving advice he's always like "listen I do that too, but don't do that" 😂
Like an Overwatch parent
It's a therapeutic technique to make the person he's criticizing not *feel* so criticized and called out. "Yeah, I'm in this boat with you, you're not alone - but let's try to get out of the boat now. It'll be better for us all." Emongg is a really nice guy.
But I've watched Emongg's gameplay. He's a top player for a reason. The things he is saying 'I do that' to are immensely rare.
I still appreciate his sentiment either way, though. He's really good at delivering criticism without making it feel critical.
@@FlamingNinjaBoi did you graduate with a psychology degree
@@FlamingNinjaBoiIt's also just, true yanno.
what really got me about the throw at the end was that it was their fault that the cart stopped there to begin with. they should have tried like hell to hold that, to redeem their mistake, instead of just giving up.
Yeah, that should never be done in comp. Keep that crap to qp lol
You know it's an Emongg video without looking when you hear the video start with "Alright, so!"
"Two things: 1. Don't do that." 😂😂😂😂
26:20 i love how everyone in chat unanimously became mad from this desicion
To the beat of My Hero by Foo Fighters:
"There goes my Reinhardt
Watch him as he throws."
*feeds
Man's playing like you'd expect someone to play in Bronze 5. So I give them a pass.
This hurt to watch. I’ve had games where our team moved the cart like 20m and we still won on defense. You can’t give uppp
4:13-8:59 held her ult for that long
26:20 might as well stay in Bronze and rightfully learn. I respect wanting to climb but, idk how many times someone’s gonna sell because they don’t realize or have awareness of positioning of their own teammates yet alone go die and remain staggered.
This person also needs to know that the TP self-cleanses
As a bronze shitter myself I had no idea this was a thing, the game doesn't tell you this at all
similarly the game does not tell you how Symmetra works in the slightest and I had to look it up on my own
@@A.LeMayo A really good idea is to look up like... 'tips for ' or ' beginner guide' videos or something, for any character you're interested in playing a few rounds on.
I know it sounds kind of corny, but pretty much every character has nuances like that, or particular tactics which have to be 'figured out'. Like a really similar case is Reaper: his Wraith form also self-cleanses. The self-cleanse is a really nice trick for both of these characters. Like say you get nailed by an Ash dynamite or an Ana anti when you're not looking to make any big moves at that moment and are just grouped up in the backline during a team fight. You can just quickly press the key to drop it off, which reduces pressure on your heals.
You can cut hours of training wheels time off by watching a few character-specific vids for anyone you wanna give a solid go with. And knowing this stuff can make the character feel a lot better, so maybe you wanna stick with them longer for knowing. You'll also know more about the character for the purposes of countering them, as well.
Good luck :)
If this person really wants to be roasted we can start with the fact that you don’t roast a grilled cheese
That C9 tho. I love the Pavarotti parody music for it, really elevates the level of majestic mess-up that just happened. o7 Lol
Agreed
The thing holding back most low elo players from bronze till diamond is mental. They easily tilt, blame their teammates, give up, leave, throw.
This player gives up too easily, I'll be real they probably got hard insulted when they c9ed so already didn't feel like helping a team that hurt their feelings. Every game is winnable as long as you play to win
All bronze players have skill issues or are just too stupid to think and learn that’s all that is. You get insulted or called slurs you accept it and keep playing or mute that’s it.
@@ZyrusEclipse This extends to even plat, when you start blaming your teammates like your support for not healing you. There's a good chance the supp gets mad and starts throwing.
Ideally I'd say mute all comms till you hit diamond because even in gm comms isn't essential.
Then work on keep your head calm and cool and focus on playing smart instead of rushing to obj in overtime. I literally won a whole game because I decided to retreat from point and group up with my team for the retake
Your teammates in higher ranks are more forgiving about you making mistakes because they can usually make up for it. Bronze players, not so much. 😭
@@gremlynz_ nope plat and diamond is extremely toxic. Let me ask you a question what gives your teammates the right to disrespect you for making a mistake. They themselves make 100s and yet avert their eyes by blaming others.
Simply get out of Comms, mute chat or squelch extra annoying people. When you engage with this garbage it pulls you down
@@khaledm.1476 when I said “higher ranks” I meant Masters and GM, plat and diamond games are way different than higher ranked games and I see a lot more toxicity in that rank. Rarely are my masters games ever “toxic”, but when smurfing on a plat account the toxicity starts the moment I get in the lobby lol.
Roasted Grilled Cheese....this is gonna be a good one.
The Reinhardt is playing like he’s Reaper.
would benefit just from actually doing literally anything instead of standing around waving "hi" while the enemy kills them. Guy threw away any chance of a stall at end of a round TWICE doing that- in comp. and he sends the video in with him doing it? Saying he deserves a higher rank?
the level of disappointment expressed at 21:53 is hilarious
If you want to get roasted send it to flats… also continuing my petition to have Flats and Emongg spectate the same bronze VOD. Then I want someone to like combine it into one video, so we see the Player screw up and then-
Emongg: “So I sometimes do that too on Cass uh and it can be tempting to do that, but maybe consider rolling behind cover and not doing that at that point. “
[cut to Flats]
Flats: “WHAT!?!? … Dude what in the cooked asparagus awareness did I just witness!? Actually, that’s an insult to cooked asparagus! At least asparagus can roll! unlike you who tried to right click Randy the ulting Soldier with 2 bullets across the map then just stood there and died… AND YOU SAID YOU DESERVE PLATT!?
Sounds like they wanted to send this to Flats instead of you, he's THE expert roaster
this person has absolutely zero right to judge anyone else on their team when they threw THREE fights with their mistakes alone. this vod pissed me off so bad, emongg is way too nice! i would have reported and avoided this person for sure.
NGL... a little disappointed there wasn't more roasting going on 😂
8:55 if that happened in my game, I'd probably report the Kiriko for throwing
Nah
No but I would be livid
While I understand where this is coming from. I'd have given them another chance because there's always the possibility the player lagged out. If it happened repeatedly tho...
Nah this player must stay in bronze at least for one or 2 seasons still. They're absolutely not ready for anything higher. I feel like they watch videos of content creators like ML7, Karq, kayji ecc. who gives very great tips, but this person simply don't have the basic knowledge to apply those tips. They should be working more on the fundamentals, cause it feels like they just have a messy idea of how they should be playing
The biggest limiting factor for them is mental first, positioning second. They give up too easily, they emote, they afk.
No amount of mechanics will help that. Every fight is winnable if you play to win
@@khaledm.1476 yes, they need to work especially on this
@@khaledm.1476 Hard disagree. Their biggest limiting factor is they don't know how to play the characters they're playing and lack basic mechanics. They need to know fundamentals first before even going into ranked (my hottest take), then work on their mental and finally positioning. Only then will they see any meaningful improvement across the board.
You will only get better mental if you know the limitations and true power of each hero. What they can and cannot survive, what they can and cannot achieve. When you understand that, you start getting better sense of how you're doing and how you could improve. Positioning is second to all of that and only enhances this.
@@azseal2669 How can they improve as a player if they give up too easily and don't bother to learn.
I mean this is a bronze kiriko I am fine with them practising ranked because qp is a joke.
Also how'd you recommend they go about improving their understanding of the character specifically. Like any actual drills or tips
I agree with the suggestion of better positioning around the 16:30 ish mark, but at the same time, as a lower ranked player myself, that can also get your positionless teammates killed and thus, allow you to lose games. I find myself in that same, "Lighthouse," position as I'm forever trying to save out of position teammates. Perhaps I'll let them die from now on.
this why coms are important. when someone walks behind a wall tell them you can't heal them without line of sight, like I mean immediately, not after the play is over
@@kernoleary1394i feel like most people forget this. Oh well when im on support my teammates always LOS and throw the game its not my fault. Well did you tell them they los'd?
@@kernoleary1394 From my experience trying to micromanage hardstuck bronze players through comms just ends up with them feeding out of spite
@A.LeMayo most tank players actually want to be healed, so if you tell them immediately when you can't heal them they should fix their mistake. I know this because I am that tank and sometimes I need the reminder honestly
my friend I think you instantly forgot the "roast" part when the video started 🤣. Just sounds like good coaching to me!
Ngl "roast me like a grilled cheese" is kinda hot
I remember being on stream for this lmaoooooooo
Absolutely embarrassing throwing Kiriko. This is Emongg, so he will be nice, but sometimes we do need someone like Metro to come in and make sense of shit shows like this with the appropriate verbiage.
And you’re not calling out the Rein too?
@@deonwalker6270 Why? He's a Bronze Rein acting like a Bronze Rein. He didn't send in a video for review saying he definitely should be in a higher rank.
Hogging the ult was crazy
@@deonwalker6270Kiriko said they’d be gold while throwing so.
This is what is wrong with gaming communities in general, rather than teach the kiri through their mistakes show them why they are wrong, so many people would rather just cuss them out and call them names. Doing that teaches nothing.
Was kiri bad? Yes,
Does it deserve being called names or bad because of a bad mental or making mistakes? No
Gaming needs more Emonggs in it.
I cannot believe that TP that ended round 3...
Deserves to be in bronze forever
The tp c9 is outrageous
At least that was a mistake, I thought the throwing at the end of both defense rounds was worse.
ALLRIGHT *SO* !!
To be fair in overtime no one on kiri team wanted to be one point she was solo on point for like 1min straight. Even when she got doom ulted if she tped out it would have c9d
Isn’t a grilled cheese grilled and not roasted
to add to the confusion it's basically always cooked on a pan/griddle so its not grilled either
"...We're off to a good start"
You're right. Remember, its a bronze that wrote that.
@@startedtechproper term would be fried cheese sandwich, no?
Bronze player
Bronze chef
In these games where your tank is feeding hard, you have to realize, that it's the dps carrying the team: instead of wasting a lot of resources on keeping up the tank, pocket the dps! You might think the tank will be perma dead beacuse of it, but most players actually play a bit safer when don't have to healbots helping them out 24/7. Sometimes you need to teach your tank a lesson, even if it hurts.
Kinda crazy you think the tank hard fed when Kiriko was too busy moving in circles and not doing anything really. Plus that "hard feeding tank" got the opening picks and helped win multiple points. He did play aggressive but he had to tbh with a mercy and his only support that could help being this Kiriko. What else did you want him to do? Bc you saw him play safer as winston and guess what happened. Lol
@@djinscar2304 he was okay on Winton, but after the first swap he started feeding and feeding hard
This healer is awful. The chose to throw a few fights they could have won. Their tank sucked too, but this person straight up threw and then tried to blame others lol
“The ability to heal does not make you intelligent” -Qui Gon Jinn
Emongg is the mom of spectating bronze
Flats is the dad
Not the dps telling the Kiri to leave coms xD, I feel like that is what would happen to me tho if I do, so I just don't
I joined coms said to my brig hey could use a armor pack .......they reported me and said I'm a a-hole .....
I feel like there's probably a reason why someone asked submitter to leave voice comms that's been deliberately left out of that intro message. Just a gut feeling from how they were playing.
Brooo why are these "my tank and dps played horribly, and im probs a gold player" supports always the ones that actually played so bad that it costed their teams a win? bro this game was winnable for this kiriko's team...but because he (and the mercy, sorry i have to say it) were absolutely dogshit and were positioned like ass the entire fights they lost, and this guy has the nerve of saying their dps was in the wrong?!? seriously, people who play support (in the majority) have so low game sense and understanding of how they play that is highly infuriating
It cringes me out that they always have their back to the enemy team
21:55 thunder1055
you just had to say that
This Kiriko went and recreated Xepher's C9 from OWL almost to a T
"ask me to leave coms for no reason" I can see why, if he thinks he deserve at least gold. No matter the rank nobody want these who believe are superior aka blaming everyone else and no focus in improve himself.
believing your true rank is one rank higher is not "believing you're superior." it's a goal. It would be a different story if he said he deserved masters.
@@firebanner6424 your "true rank" is the rank you're currently at. If you were better you would be on a higher rank simple as that. Instead of focusing on ranking up, one should focus on improving then the rank will come naturally.
By believing you're better than everyone else you're minimising your mistakes. Don't build yourself like a gold statue, a gold statue doesn't allow for any flaws. Your goal should be realising your mistakes but when you say you're better, you can't also admit that you're bad which is the first step to growth
@@khaledm.1476u can definitely have be a better rank than you are, sometimes teammates hold you back or it’s cuz of overwatch’s terrible comp system
@@jazz3738nah is pure copium, the rank you’re at is exactly how should be placed at. People have cognitive dissonance and don’t wanna admit that they’re not that great.
@@Seyanooso if the last time i played comp was in 2016, and my rating at the time was bronze, but ive played 1000s of hours in quickplay against masters through top 500 players, do i still have the skillset of a bronze player?
Tbh i feel bad for that kiriko, because i went through the same thing escept i was teh tank, and all i can do is shield with how aggressive the enemy team was
worst tp as kiriko is i tp to save someone..and they just use their mobility to leave me
lol
this guy is throwing wtf
no wonder they're in bronze
that mercy deserved better
I love these videos. Now i have a list of players to avoid😂
In bronze?
I can't believe he just ate a meteor strike and tped to his teammate for NO REASON after the Team fight was WON! 22:30
Sometimes people have open mic on and you can hear every grunt and sigh and click, could that be why they wanted you to leave the comms?
this suzu spam lol... this guy is also one of the reasons i don't play OW anymore. i haven't even stepped into OW2
Wait, this dude said he deserves gold or high silver? 😂
Yeah, the biggest issue by far was pretty much literally standing on top of the payload for... the entire round.
Kiriko is one of the most mobile supports in the game and FlareToga was pretty much selling all of that down the river.
We could really grind in on that overtime throw at the end, but like... I dunno. That's definitely a 'we've all been there' moment. I guess 'focus up' is the point here.
Hope they can fix it. They'll probably rank up quickly if they can settle their positioning issues. But saying they deserve a higher rank now is a bit loaded. This was some bronze gameplay if I ever saw it.
That emote shit was not cool, though. Just immediately annoyed me.
Before ANYTHING to do with positioning aim or whatever is addressed, these stupid AFK's they do are the most annoying and honestly should be reportable. Why just sit there AFK bro ur playing COMP! Just cus they're coming back from spawn or ur in spawn doesn't mean there is NOTHING else u could be doing
I was honored to be roasted into oblivion.
This player seems to use suzu just because
That one dps saying to leave comms is literally right, you dont need to talk to other bronzes in bronze. I just hit masters and i mute all chats and never join voice, just focus on you and play off your team and make plays ez game
Their tank was *awful*
Player: Roast me like a grilled cheese sandwich!
Grilled Cheese Sandwich: Am I a joke to you?
Me: Ah yes the rare legendary Roasted Grilled Cheese Sandwich! So powerful it was outlawed during the 1285 Cheese Rebellion.
6:17 same reaction tbh
This popping in recommendations as I'm watching a kink related video is 🤣
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DESERVE TO LOSE and stay in bronze or better dirt rank, u play comp, that mentality of "i don't like my team, my team bad, i blame them, i will start throwing" is so dumb, when u not even play better than them or trying harder
so many part in this vid that pissed me off
1. if u found a tank that keep asking where their healing cause they keep dying, until they switch to roadhog but still got rolled, that's mean the tank just don't understand what their mistake and straight up dumb thinking 2 pocket heal will make them unkillable with 1v5 or personally i will just pick lifeweaver at this point
2. 5:47 u see ur doom and genji try to flank to get enemy backline, but instead going with them and using ur ult, u stay with ur mercy and soldier (they should be fine cause they just facing one enemy doom), this mistake causing ur doom and genji fail to get some pick from enemy backline or atleast have a chance to get a pick
3. 8:21 WHY U NOT USING UR ULT? DID U FORGOT HOW KIRIKO ULT IS FOR??? STOP DPS ING AND CLEANSE THAT DOOM
4. 8:38 just play and que as dps role bro, for what doing dmg as support when u can't kill them quick enough? if u more focus on helping ur team, at that moment u should just tp away and helping ur soldier to get value for his ult (u can also using ur ult too) instead u choose focus on enemy reaper that doing their role job and make u back to respawn
5. 8:55 THROWING
6. 12:59 u are fine, the nade effect will run out soon, u should't cleanse urself at that time and just hiding behind the wall to not get shot = saving ur suzu
7. 21:49 for me this both of u and ur team fault.. it's overtime, everyone playing so far so if someone accidentally leave the cart it's hard to touch it especially it's low rank that u can't trust anyone else.. u the one that care about the cart, shouldn't leave the cart if ur team dying and they blame u cause not getting heal and lose their 1v1 fight, that's their fault for play too far and losing ur line of sight
8. 26:20 instead of keep trying, staying alive using all ur cooldown until ur team back, u choose to throwing and memeing
this scenario is similar to mine long ago, first using moira but switch to baptiste on defense holding the payload that enemy literally have 0.50m left, i was hopeless but keep trying and end up win the game
For point 7 I agree but also can see the thought process that might have happened. The mercy was valking on point with them hesitating to move up. It looks like both of them were unsure who should go forward and who should stay on cart. So instead of comms, they both decided to move forward at the same time.
Please remove twitch chat from videos. It's rather pathetic seeing them trash on people who, we all know for a fact, are not worse gamers than they are.
No
oh get off it. This guy basically threw the end of two rounds and you're crying over people calling him out for it?
Dude literally asked to be roasted 🤷🏼♀️
No, it's the best thing in these videos.
Are you the kiriko in the vod? Lol
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