"I deserve at least low plat" | Spectating Bronze
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'I should at least be plat' and this is what he choose to show. Now I want to see the games that he dosen't want to share.
lol
😅 He probably has a plethora of games that would make us laugh
if falling off the map in the same spot twice is one of his best games, then I have a feeling he will never get out of bronze.
In over 3 years of playing, I don't think I've accidentally fallen off that part of the map once.
I’ve jumped off a few times on defense when my entire team was dead, but never on accident😂
@@ering7822 never on purpose??
@@cooltwittertagmy bad im high asf rn lemme edit that💀💀
So then it's reasonable to assume you've fallen off twice right? 😂
@@BuckGaming1988 Ha absolutely not. Trust me I def have fallen off maps but never that spot.
I CANNOT BELIEVE THEY FELL IN THE SAME SPOT TWICE IN A ROW😭WHERE WAS THE AWARENESS???
its bronze, they don't process information well. Did you notice how much he has to look back and forth before deciding to shoot or heal someone. It takes time for things to register to a bronze player.
In the pit
Mr. "I'm supposed to be in Plat" doesn't have map awareness. Probably hasn't been playing for very long.
the way my jaw literally dropped when they fell the second time lol
@@Gabytron SAME I laughed out loud when it happened the second time
i have a friend who said the same thing, we made a plat 1 match for him. he's now happy in bronze. he knows his place
Looool
"he knows his place", I mean that just sounds like they couldn't hit plat. Plat is just an average player so they can reach that if they play and improve consistently
@@khaledm.1476 we have been helping him get better, their main issue was that they never understood their role and refused to play with his team, even though the we’ve all been playing since 2018 😭😭
@@khaledm.1476 Plat is on the upper end of the bell curve. Above average, where about a quarter of the player base is. Diamond is around 10-15% of the player base and so on.
The 50th percentile rank is around gold 3-2.
@@nimbus2490 Isn't that old stats based on OW1 tho. I've heard there's been alot of rank inflation in OW2
Do the people who submit vods actually watch Emongg comment on them? Because if that was me, i'd be sinking all the way down my chair while watching this. The whole "i deserve plat" when he didn't even know where his spawn reset was on third point was just ludicrous, lol
What I want to know is did they rewatch this game before submitting and go, "yep, carried". It seems crazy that a human with a functional brain can watch themselves walk off the map twice, then spend the next life hiding in the enemy spawn for 2 minutes and still believe it was their teams fault.
I watched the one he did of mine and it was very helpful (this one is not me)
im pretty sure they play up their ego to actually give something to comment on their submission so they'd be picked for spectating
bro this is me i’m actually shaking 😭😭
@@thewalnutbucket (this was not me) disclaimer has me dying 😂
Some of my favorite posts come from people in Bronze that think they should be significantly higher than Bronze because "they get held back by their teams". I was not disappointed watching Emongg spectate this game :]
One of the best things you can do is realise every time you lose it is your own fault, you'll improve faster and you won't be toxic to your team.
I'm genuinely amazed that people like this think they deserve to not only be higher, but significantly higher than where they are. The amount of times he just stood there completely out in the open doing nothing is astonishing. I may only be gold, but at least I understand the basics of positioning and using cover. It would take a miracle for this guy to hit silver.
There is a graph that demonstrates skill versus confidence in ability.
It starts with high confidence and low skill, middle is decent skill and low confidence, and end is high confidence and high skill
@@mattirrodraca2807I believe that's called the Dunning Kruger Effect
@@W3lol1 I believe that was it. I could not remember it at the time and didn't feel like looking it up
@@mattirrodraca2807that’s a myth the Dunning Kruger effect was mostly based on subjective evidence and isn’t really supported by anything else
I feel that the Rein should be rated higher than bronze. He has some awareness of when to pull back to reset when the team is down
I had been thinking way earlier into the game “I like this guy’s awareness” and then he immediately backed off the map. Think I should just sit in silence…
The Lifeweaver: *"I BELONG IN PLAT!"*
Also the Lifeweaver: 1:18
The closest this is to plat is the sound he makes when he slaps on the ground when falling off the map. Also the diplomacy at the end😂
He's not using his petals to their full potential, making it possible to save your team from ultimate, for example. His trees seem random half of the time, and his pulls are being wasted at pointless times, making them not able to save their squishy because of it, for example. The balance of heals and damage are lacking due to him thinking he's a hitscan... I'd say he'd maybe be a bronze 4 or 3. (My personal take)
Edit: I notice he tries going for full 75 heals most of the time when it's more beneficial to get them to the range of around 50. It's faster and more productive to balance your stats in general.
I think a lot of it was his second support was a lucio, forcing him to heal more. Then he'd get bored and do random abilities just to do something. Though even if he was paired with a stronger healer, I don't know what would happen as he missed almost all his shots with damage.
I used to jump out of habit WAAY too much, so about a month ago I swapped my jump and crouch keybinds around and it has genuinely improved my play.
It didn't take that long to get used to, so I recommend others try it.
Jumping out of habit also makes you an easy target for hitscan in high gold and above. Sometimes you get those people that are popping for a game in gold and they can track the jump because it's a predictable fall.
@@mattiOTX Exactly! Now I crouch predictably instead lol
@@ReedoTV me too lol
I really like that Life is so boring that anyone who play him has to use de pull every time they have it just because there is nothing else you can do XD
I tend to enjoy activities such as whistling when i do random pulls for absolutely no reason
5:41 "oh you're about to die? how about i pull you to the entire enemy team!"
highest skilled Lifeweaver pull
Low elo is so hilarious dude, dont ever stop making these
Also holding on a ult forever then wasting it cant get more Bronze than that lmao
The problem is, holding ults is not just a bronze thing unfortunately. It happens all the way up to plat
I think i do that. I need to stop doing that. Im gold.
@@liad0xsame
In this match the Weaver threw at least 4 fights by pulling people he shouldn't have pulled. And he didn't turn a single team fight by using pull. This is not exclusive to bronze, sadly. Happens in all the metal ranks on a consistent basis, but players consistently are unaware of how much they're throwing.
And this is the fundamental problem with LW design. Even if you play him optimally, you're most likely also throwing the fight.
@@TheShapingSickness Yup, when the only way you can consistently be equal in fights is by being a literal smurf, he just straight up is a throw pick - and he will stay a throw pick until Blizzard buffs him so much he breaks (when have we seen that happen before, dear balance team?..)
I'm high diamond/low masters, and play LW a lot. I really only use pull (other than getting people back from spawn faster) to pull people stuck with pulse, booped off the map, slept/shattered/anti-ed/fluxed, etc. I basically never pull someone only because they're at low health
I really only know what a good pull is because I play all roles. If I played only support, my pulls would be terrible.
@@TevRGNok so what
@@Boredness90 so people in metal ranks don't know how to play the game, and blame abilities (like pull) instead of realizing they're just bad.
I've been playing Lifeweaver a bit. Only low-mid Diamond support, but I like to use tree in the same way I like to use kiriko ult. One of three ways: to engage, to put counter pressure on right before the enemy engage, or when I'm only solo heal to keep my team up if the other healer gets picked.
Or to block the enemy from getting in/out 😏
but girls dont play weaver tho
@@jake9854 what 😭
@@jimecxd2597 they think weaver is a lame character n cause the team to lose game
@@jake9854 what? do you speak for all girls?
I wish I could see flats watch this game with the pretense "I should be at least Plat" He would be roasting him harder than chestnuts on an open fire during Christmas.
As a plat 1 support who is comfortable with LW there are a few tips I have.
1) don’t play lifeweaver with Lucio in bronze. You’re not going to get enough healing for a bronze team. In this situation you’d want an Ana or bap.
2. You need to play further back. Your hit box is massive and your survivability isn’t the best. Playing in rooms is going to get you killed for the most part.
3. Have a platform pre-ready. It doesn’t expire. So if you get pushed you can jump on it and have another ready to go in the event you need it.
4. Instead of reloading your heals constantly switch to your gun and dps for a few seconds. Three seconds and you’ll be fully reloaded.
5. Only pull when necessary. If a hanzo is full health he can backup on his own he doesn’t need your pull.
7. Don’t hold on to tree forever. Besides the initial burst heal it isn’t that great of an ult. If somebody is about to die throw it down and use it for the team fight. It comes back pretty fast.
8. You don’t have to full charge every heal. Sometimes doing smaller burst heals will save your teammate from dying.
9. Know when to change. He’s not the best support and there are many situations he just doesn’t work.
As soon as they seem someone critical no matter if they need the pull or not they just go for it.
It’s like Ana nade or shift, it’s just automatic to do. They don’t really think about wether they are low and in danger or low and behind cover safe.
I love emongg reactions and videos they just make my day a lot of the time
Before I read the patch notes but after I updated my game, I played with a lifeweaver in every single game. I assumed he had got buffed but no, he just seems to be a popular pick for some very odd reasons
I think it's because of that life grip because it's funny for both sides and the petal gives high ground and can save ur teammates i guess
because its easy job for low elo same with mercy gonna spam those heall and beam bois and do nothing else
This guy plays like me. I know a bronze when I see one 😂
As lifeweaver, i view his pull and petal as free saves if his heal dump doesnt work out. I try to wait until theyre down to the last few bars and you can load up a burst of heals while theyre pulling back. They also get a small invulnerability so you can save someone from sigma ult. I like to use it towards the end of a teammates dps ult when theyre most likely to get picked off. For petal, use it to save yourself and *maybe* a scoped in ana or something, i rarely use petals for teammates mostly just myself. Use it to get to high ground too, which also means dont be afraid to drop off high ground if you're getting dove since you easily can get back up. Otherwise when you're getting attacked just throw it directly under your feet, its 90% of the time gonna throw the enemy off enough that you'll live.
I use his tree if my team is about to get a surge of damage but not something that is too deadly like an ultimate. So if a deathball or dive is coming in. I also alternatively use it instead of a grip when my tank goes in hard; so like when rein got a big shatter like 1v5 and this weaver pulled him back, instead i would use the tree
I have a pretty good winrate on weaver using these tips. Keep in mind that the devs describes him as a mercy alternative, maybe i find him naturally easy cuz i used to be a mercy main.
After i reached diamond from silver i now 100% understand that if u are in bronze u just deserve it unluckily. Nothing about personal, its just how rank games works
"And you should be atleast low plat.... um.....you know I hope you enjoyed the video"
emongg trying not to tell people they're just fine where they are challenge
in plat you'd know to not play lifeweaver in the first place :'D jkjk
but lmao I am a casual high plat/low dia ana/kiriko main and i tried to go lifeweaver in comp after doing well on him in qp... yeah, never again, he slingshotted me down to gold where i haven't been for years. It really is... a weird choice.
That pull on rein after shatter was so painful... When I was just starting playing lw, I accidentally C9ed my team twice on the same map. I didn't do it on purpose of course, but everyone including myself was upset anyways. Since then every time I use pull, I am always afraid I pull wrong target or just pull someone out of their good q. It makes playing lw very stressful, ngl. I can imagine this person didn't actually mean tompull their rein there, it was just bad timing and slow reaction time.
I like the thought of this being an "ego" vod.
this guy does randomly pull a lot in the 2nd half of the game, but i just wanna remind people that grip heals for 50hp since the start of this season i believe (AND it can be used while charging your main heal but i dont think this guy has realized any of this)
While I see what you are saying, every time they used pull, the person was not in immediate danger of being eliminated. They were usually behind cover or way out of the enemy teams line of sight so the lifeweaver was in fact using it because they were bored.
Most capable Lifeweaver player
i'm a bronze lifeweaver who would be happy just to get to silver and there's no way this person is getting out of bronze at this rate
Also should have pulled that rein back during the beginning or found two. cause that way while they were focusing lucio, rein could be getting full heals
2 minutes in and I can definitely see how this guy deserves low plat...
i havent seen the video, i just read the title and ohhhh im exited, i love bronze thinking they deserve plat
This is why I love lifeweaver… he can just kinda chill 😅 and he got even more buffs! He has overhealth on tree and then 25 blue health (forget what it’s called)
Why does this feel like every life weaver I get in quick play
Throwweaver
bc you're bronze yourself
i see it very interesting that he says the he deserves to be lower ranked and not like "i think i should be placed higher" or something like that.
I love how they let the pharaoh target the heals and tank for free the whole match. At bronze it’s tough for the players to figure out issues and make adjustments. I’d say he’s at least worth silver because he’s attempting to heal at least.
The double map death just hurt me 😂
Ngl as a high Gold I've fallen myself at least more than once in that spot, but NEVER in rapid succession in the same effing game on the same effing round
3:03 petal platform is projectile weaponry
As a support main who uses LW a lot lately, this was painful to watch
a minute in and i cant believe how many healing shots theyve missed as LIFEWEAVER oo boy this is gonna be good
I stopped playing comp because of the sweatiness that came with grinding it solo and couldn't play with friends. Might give it a another go again since I was on the rise when I gave it up 2 seasons ago. If I was able to get to plat 3 with solo mercy, I'm fairly certain I could get at least diamond with weaver.
And I deserve a hundred million bucks 😌
I loved watching that with stream, was a swell treat ❤
This guy is definitely a Life Weaver of all time
This is one of the most frustrating matches I’ve ever seen
Its always funny when someone sends an ego vod to a streamer saying they deserve low plat and they do things that not even someone playing the game for the first time would do
pedaling the orisa was actually high IQ
when lucio ult'd around 7:40 he shouldve be helping clear his backline instead of healing
As a hardstuck Plat 1, today I faded off Napal map because my jump key didn't register. Sometimes it's a feels bad and others is just skill issue lol
I'm relatively new to ow.. I have about 90hrs total ..somehow I skipped bronze all together and got placed in silver..just hit silver 2 today
I can't believe people in chat at the end saying "high gold", absolutely not. I am a lw main (amongst others) in low gold and this guy would get EATEN ALIVE in gold. Definitely a bronze player.
Big brain moves. No one can kill you due to your massive hit box if you just jump off the map.
1:30 plat support strategy mind right there.
I love how nice he is and doesn’t just shit on him
Very interning game play there😂😭
going to have to say bronze is his elo
Damn, do I keep dropping out of plat 5 bc I'm not falling off maps enough?
Bronze Player: I DESERVE PLAT
*falls off map twice*
*rarely heals tank*
*rarely uses cover*
They should have Lifeweaver’s healing charge automatically and also make it able to charge while you’re using his DPS
Yeah, slow charging heals while he has the thorns out would be a great change.
Been playing since ow 1 and never have I fallen there because of nothing 😅
as an actual low plat support, this hurt to watch LMAO
some moments this felt like they were tryna play ow as if it was valorant?? Xd
iv been solid plat since OW1 and i got my peak of diamond in ow2 i played and lost a ton with my friends and gf now im playing in low silver/bronze games and elo hell is so god damn real in ow2
My old friend is new to overwatch (Plus, he's not really good in any multiplayer FPS, but he has a lot of fun playing tho) and even he doesn't accidently falls off the map like that. I'm so sick of people saying they should be higher than bronze when they play like this lol. Some people really needs to reflect on how they play. Even I sometimes in low master I get some moments where I'm "Yeah, that was a bad play on me. I should maybe change my approach" to improve
Is lifeweaver gonna get another buff?
i can understand falling off the map once. we all do silly things sometimes and its not the end of the world. but to fall off TWICE, at the SAME PLACE? that's when you prove you are not aware of what's going on around you.
this person would not survive higher than silver. staggering yourself begins to impact the team in silver and definitely in gold. they understand the game well enough to have an okay sense of when to ult, but they don't understand enough.
"just stay alive" isn't the best advice for a support because the difference between winning and losing can be making sure you die with your team so you can regroup together. you need to know when you need to survive and when you need to force the enemy team to kill you quickly.
also, that pull on Reinhardt after they had shattered...... sweet lord that was a very bad play that would be punished in gold.
your team doesn't need you to keep them at full hp, no matter what they say or think. they need you to help them win the fight. you wouldn't survive in plat.
i think they have potential, but they have a LOT to learn and practice before they're ready for silver and beyond.
to be fair though, this is how a lot of my gm anas/mercys play so who knows
Someone presented the idea that Plat in Overwatch is equivalent to bronze in other competitive Shooters...
I’ve been tempted to my gold gameplay(ps4) and see what he thinks I would be pc and it opinions
As someone who thinks they're a decent lifeweaver (i main mystery heroes) he needs to be doing a lot more attakcing, and being on the ground and instead of popping himself in the air. However he should be throwing the pedal at the middle of the fight for either a distraction of the enemy team, or something a low health team mate could use to get heals better. Then they could jump back into the fight.
or being hi ground in middle lane
Jokes aside, I could see them in low gold with a little bit of help
Ngl I have fallen off the map there as a plat, yes it was embarrassing ahahahaha
Tha audacity of this man… at least plat…. Jeez dude for the first few minutes I thought you’r trolling 😂
I think one of the biggest problems support dps players make is not going for damage first THEN heals. Everyone knows how to position and the back and healbot, so you get an average rank. You have to seek out more value and realise their are people like you who play the same exact way and is why you share a similar rank. Also, If you dont play enough games your not going to get a accurate rating of your skill so theres that.
"I deserve at least low plat" - 1:24 Computer says "No".
The ending made me ugly laugh 🫣
Matxh just started and the supports and tank are just, opposite sides of the map? Like even if u think tanks spot is troll one of u should be near them with los?
When I play Lifeweaver against Rein and he has his shield up I use my primary to break his sheild
Her: Babe come over 😘
Lifeweaver: I can't, I'm mid match
Her: I can make you Platinum Support
Lifeweaver: 1:37
This is the kind of supports I have every game. THATS why I'm hardstuck bronze.
the other team has this kind of supports every game too. if you can't get out of bronze, that's on you.
If he falls off the map a 3rd time, he should pull someone else with him
1:44 I AM a plat support and I have to admit that I’ve fallen off there
i swear people that are super arrogant about what rank they deserve, always play bad and then completely forget the bad parts that happened
I'm honestly sure this guy does deserve plat, because I'm plat tank and this is every LW I get on my team.
If tank pick Hog after dying than most of the tine it means that no one heals him or they just want to play Hog.
This person needs to stay bronze until they gain the map awareness perk...
im a masters support and ill give this guy a tip to get out of bronze, dont play lifeweaver, even with his buffs hes still out healed and out utility usefulness by pretty much every other support, if you want to climb i recommend anna, kirko, bap they have very good healing, amazing kits, and op ults thatll help your team alot
(edit) with that being said i personally do enjoy lifeweaver. so if you dont care about your rank and just want to play someone you enjoy, chill with friends then ya just play who you want, but if you do truly want to rank up especially getting to at least plat id stay away from lifeweaver, bap is who id recommend the most, he has great damage, great healing, imortality lamp, and matrix, plus he has his jump boots for some survivability, so you can heal, help dps if needed, save team from death and keep self alive alot like lifeweaver, just with better healing damage and kit useability
This guy is in Bronze for a reason....
... ive been playing for a week or so and mostly been grinding lifeweaver... im pretty bad.. but not that diffrent from this player
as for tree, i tend to use it when either multiple are critical or were out in the open and need something to hide behind (also it gives me a chance to get some damage in)
also ive sometimes pulled fully healed people cause i cant get to the person hiding behind them without going through the enemy team
with the platform (im not always good at this) i like to trap people against ceilings so they cant shoot me anymore in small corridors
Second half of the game they played a lot better. I know the falling off the ledge was a dumb mistake but I’m willing to forgive since he played pretty competently in the second half. Still deserves bronze tho.
Even with the buffs I still feel like LW is just never enough. Yes when u look at the stats he almost always has the highest heals but we all know that really doesn't mean much. And I'm getting really sick of getting pulled just because they think I need to be pulled. I play a lot of Bap and I dont know how many times Ive been pulled from my window when I have lamp up and I still have shift to burst heal. Its like thanks for ruining my ult jackass!
I seem to never have this problem when I'm lifeweaver, people tend to miss judge situations or just like being Dicks for no reason. If they don't know the mechanics to the tea they shouldn't play him.
@@Skrisms I've had a few good moments playing with a LW but they are few and far between. It's usually the people that know when, where, and how to use his abilities. Like I had one the other day that basically saved the game from petaling the enemy Orisa when she was ulting. Completely saved three teammates from dying in the last fight. Oddly enough I've had the best luck running Mercy with him which theoretically shouldn't work but has.
@@Skrismswas playing with some friends on an alt account, bc we can't play comp together on my main. Anyways, people who don't understand the game are usually the people that blame LW for pulling them. Like if you're 1 hp and on low ground as bastion vs the enemy team rushing you why get mad at me for pulling to high ground and saving you? We were a 3 stack so the other 2 players were randoms and playing with gold players is so frustrating. They think they know everything and they believe they can do no wrong.
@@wusaint do you remember the user of the weaver
@@Skrisms it's actually happened multiple times. That Same exact scenario. Window, lamp up, and boom I get yanked. I get what they are thinking and why they are doing it but damn hop in comms and ask really quick lol. I've also had life grips ruin my GA and leave me stranded when I'm playing Mercy. Like I'll GA to someone to save them and they get gripped. I then am stranded.
bro for real thought he could be low plat XD
i hate how they were ignoring the lamp every time and kept shooting ppl under the lamp
If you're stuck you are on the correct rank
He could've used petal to lift orisa during her ult but instead used it on himself and got everyone killed 😂
I main lifeweaver in comp but this is atrocious compared to my gameplay 😂 “honestly team diff”
I’ve been bronze for so long because I refuse to play comp. I’ve been playing ow for years and even I know that I absolutely belong in bronze. I don’t play enough to get higher and I’m okay with that
As a Diamond 4 lifeWeaver this is painful to watch