This Kiriko Got Accused of NOT Healing... Is it True? | Spectating BRONZE
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The bastions solo ulting one another the whole game is probably the funniest thing I’ve ever seen. I can imagine how this game played out with the A plot being the tank raging at the supports and the B plot being the bastions feuding.
As a bastion main, I can confirm that this happens all the time in bronze. It’s one of the many unwritten rules that both bastions must solo-ult one another
@@KikiCatMeow that’s amazing lol. To show dominance among each other like wolves. Alpha bastion.
Lol unfortunately people don't respect the 1v1. When I play hanzo, sometimes I'll be dueling the enemy Hanzo, then a widow or someone else starts helping them :/ then my team asking what I'm doing because I can't kill the enemy hanzo 😢 I always wonder how my team is having trouble controlling the objective, when I'm 1v2 or 1v3, they should have the advantage being 4v3/2
@@DapimpBDSD Play around your team and use them to help your out. I was in a brig 1v1 duel and the other brig complained I got a mercy pocket but I was playing around corners and next to my team, the other brig had a widow with her so I didn't want to go super aggressive.
They lost because they didn't utilize their team
@Khaled M. I do but my complaint is that while I'm busy aggroing the enemy sniper(s) and sometime 2 more characters, the rest of my team SHOULDNT have any problems with the remaining 3 or 2 players, since there are 4 of them.
Come for the Kiriko advice, stay for the Bastion feud of the century.
I love the trinity of Emongg, Flats, and Jay3's spectator commentary. Like, Jay3 will commentate about what he likes about what the bronze is doing, what he doesn't like, etc, without much bias. Emongg will commentate while trying to educate and give helpful tips. Flats will just roast the shit out of them. Not like that's an issue or as if one way of commentary is better than the other, but I like how the three of them expand that spectrum
Then you have KarQ when he tries to roast but he struggles to do it well because he's just too calm lol
@@ccricerskar is funny cause you can see he has the roasting evil in him but not enough anger to fuel it so it ends up being kind of a light roast 😂
As a bronze bastion, can confirm that 9/10 times the enemy tank just tries to tank my damage in assault, usually no shield. Ramattra, Rein, Zarya, they all do it. Unless you’re a Sigma or a Dva you’re just gonna die 😭
Also that bastion ult was so funny lmao, based
Ramattra's just doesn't know how to handle Assault form then lol. The best play I do is when Bastion transforms you go straight to Nemesis and Block the entire thing, canceling it out lol. Guess some just don't understand to use Nemesis as a defensive ability and just think "Punch Punch!!"
@@QueenLayla39 it’s not even that, the real problem is how he is using it to engage fights, he is overextending WAY too much and costs himself his own life because there is no one that can support him because he is overextending without his team to help him. On top of that, that form is meant for space control and to punish enemies who are out of position, not for aggression despite the common conception of the character.
As a Ramattra/flex tank, positioning and engagements is everything and when opportunities are present that should be taken to advantage. I get this bronze ranking but man when I saw what this dude was doing, I absolutely cringed😂
@@fireblitz3438 Personally, I use it as a means of aggression and it works perfectly. His biggest problem is that he doesn't take advantage of his normal form at all.(And have some sus position) Ramattra's shield, primary fire and E are good tools to do damage and allow youself to set up an aggression in Nemesis form. In fact, if you put youself into good position, you never have to block, because you probably won't sit infront of a dmg boosted Bastion
@@Ravitas3 you can punish a lucio/phara/mercy with your void ability or whatever that sucky thing is called, and then pop Nemesis form and kill them, it works really well
I recently got back into the game, haven't played since pretty much the release of OW1. I got gunned down by Bastion once and my immediate thought was "alright, don't be in Bastion's line of sight when he does that." These players get gunned down multiple times and blame their healer no wonder they're in bronze 😂
This kiri was definitely playing like an ana haha 😅. Kiriko has a lot more to lose from playing back than ana, especially with kiri’s projectile travel time being balanced by added survivability.
That's what I thought lmao
Maybe their playing Kiriko instead of Ana because aim issues or the skin
Funnily enough I tried out playing Ana as a Kiriko main and I found myself playing to close up.
I realised the reason why is their aim. Like when they missed 10 full papers on the Pharah when she was a foot in front of them, causing their Moira to waste healing orb. Or like when they were in the grav. Good positioning, but rly bad aim, but when they're further their aim is good, but it's just much less usefull
Extremely funny that almost every time the friendly mercy comes into POV, she's got the Glock out
There was a game where my brother was playing support and I was playing tank, and he got so confused at one moment he was healing the enemy and trying to damage our team 😂
that's what happens to me every time i try to play Bap. im trying to maximize my output by using the Bap tempo thing, but it's just "heal enemy, shoot shoot teammates, heal enemy..." ^^
As a Kiriko in bronze, our teammates usually have “fox avoidance syndrome” which consists in actively avoiding all the kitsunes you use during the game, they might go the same path a 100 times, but the moment you kitsune there, they decide to try new paths!
Do you play like that Kiriko on the video? If so, change your playstyle, you're Kiriko, not an Ana, if you're closer to your team, you're gonna miss less kitsunes
You're not an backside character
Or like they are pushing against the enemy fox and staying in its path, but when you use it while the enemy team have no ult and your team have 0 danger, suddenly they chose to wait far away from your path, doing nothing, not pushing or anything else.
Where the f you throwing out your fox??? 🤣 I've ranked down to bronze from plat this season and not once has the team not used my foxes 🤣🤣
@@sj_milk_ Usually on them, to be sure...
I always hear from the streamers "kitsune is fight winning ult" & Im like 😐...yah in ur ranks
This is my first time watching a spectating bronze by emong and I’m shocked by how nice he is.
Emong is the sweetest pumpkin in the OW community, he doesn't have a single ounce of neuron negativity in his body and it's such a stark contrast to everyone else haha. He just oozes good times.
He has basic respect in comparison to the rest of ow
Check out the stream sometime! We just vibe out and it's a great positive start to the morning
@@megasuperdog I definitely get your point, lol, but emongg honestly has "advanced" respect I would say. Such a positive fella
The contrast really shocked me since I've been watching flats roast bronze
This might have been a good way to play Lifeweaver or Ana. Playing cover from farther away and bursting heals when you peek your allies (or they "peek" you). But Kiriko's papers don't bounce off terrain like blossom does. If the target leaves LOS before they get the oncoming heals, the ofuda will home directly at their location, hit the wall, and do nothing. You can't pre-heal in anticipation of allies coming around corners without getting the green "dumb-fire" papers.
But the tank needed to learn when not to just be a fatter DPS.
The tank in general needs to learn what engagements look like and what positions should he take in order to take full potential of the characters. I cringed extremely hard seeing this guys gameplay that it reminded me of my friend’s gameplay on tank and he says he’s quote on quote “good”
its not a good way to play with any hero, it only builds bad habits that you will have to spend even more effort to rid yourself of later down the line. Ana 'can' make use of long sight lines and safe positions, but Ana's kit has most of its utility potential enabled by an active and dynamic playstyle where you don't just sit afk in the backline spamming heals. At most you'll hit silver or low gold with good aim, but thats about it.
This playstyle in general for any support is just bad, period.
@@Real_MisterSir Not really, it really depends on the map and the composition of your team
Sometimes, you NEED to play like that with Ana or Lifeweaver, if you don't believe me just watch people playing Ana on this exactly map at GM
@@sthepcorms6747 it really doesn't depend on the map, your rotations need to be fluid and value-seeking constantly if you want to actually play the hero to the limits her kit allows. Otherwise you're just wasting her potential through safe but passive play. Even GM players I coach have had a moment of realization once they see the value they leave on the table due to their positioning - it's mostly in top 50 consistent and contenders+ that you see Ana players truly adopt the full extend of her kit. And the earlier you start building those good habits, the better. If you don't, you will just have to overcompensate in other aspects, some of which build bad habits that maybe work in certain ranks but not others, and that's often why people plateau because the force feedback loop of poor decisions not carrying immediate negative impact that is easily observable unless you know what to look for.
Hi Kiriko friend! I was once a bronze support player, and I remember playing new to the game, even 6 months in and such.
One thing Emongg is really focusing on is that you’re playing too far back, and if you’re anything like I was, you’re playing timidly bc you’re afraid of dying and not adding value from your respawn time. I promise you, you’ll get more value from playing closer and dying every once in a while than playing so far back that your healing isn’t even in range.
One thing about kirikos healing is the papers are yellow when they’re within range of healing your target, and blue for when you’re too far and they wont do anything. If you notice they’re blue, get closer! Once again, I know you’re timid and not wanting to die, but that’s what your team is for, your Moira is doing a good job at healing the frontline, and while I’m not saying go frontline, definitely play close back line, or better yet on a cross high ground, so you’ll have an easy escape!
Great thing about kiriko is her escapability! You have teleport up every 5-6 secs (can’t remember the exact off the top of my head and too lazy to look it up), when in an opportune time and your tank is pushing, you can teleport to them or better yet walk, and not necessarily push with them, but teleport, or walk, hang back a lil and escape when needed to. And in the rank you’re playing in rn, the enemy team doesn’t know when or really how to punish out of position players so you have more to work with right now to see what works for you!
I’ve only really started watching Emongg in the past few months, but one thing he commonly says in bronze games, is don’t play off your cooldowns, don’t be constantly using your abilities. You may be a little hypersensitive towards your cooldowns, not wanting to play off your cooldowns, and knowing the right time to use them. But teleport is one thing you want to use as much as possible in the right moments when you see them. And you may not know the right moments yet, but you’re in bronze, take the time to learn what moments and plays are right for you!
I don’t say bronze in terms of derogatory btw, I mean you’re not getting tossed into the deep end into diamond and up and are expected to know everything and anything yet. You’re learning! And as long as you have the willingness and the capacity to learn what works for you, do it! I’m diamond/master, and I’m still learning!
That said, your tank was a dumbass 99% of this game. And I’m guessing he’s used to overly aggressive kirikos. Don’t worry about his dumbass, you’re doing ok. So play a lot more forward! Again great thing about kiriko is her survivability and means to escape. A timid way in the back line kiriko does less than a 5-6 deaths kiriko within the fights. (Most of the time, just don’t solely dps w all this power you just got 😂) you’re doing great sweetie!
I think they are trying to play in cover, play safe, don't think they are scared to die, who knows I was bronze once too 😅 fun times
@@orls9068 for sure trying to play cover. Probably heard someone say that. They should play cover and/or off angles closer up though.
What rank are you now
As someone who just started to play kiriko, thank you for the advice!
Yeah, i alternate between kiriko and anna, and a good way to use kiriko dps potential after learning to use anna is alternating between healing allies right behind them and shoot kunais trought them, even if you don't hit them it is a good headshot threat to wear off opponents while your tank recovers cooldowns and you can use the zuzu to win time
Perfect example of the common support experience. Team overextends and feeds and types "heal diff" in match chat because it's easier to blame your supports instead of trying to see if they could have done something better
im a high rank support player
this player, was definetly a factor for the lost. a lot of wasted cleanses and a lot of missed out clense opportunity, all deriving from the fact that they played miles off and dont actually support their team
- edited note: im not defending their tank here. i dont want it to come off that way. their tank was absolutely atrocious, i would be going Bap just to save his ass. but at least he's aggressive, so hes not the absolute worst I've seen.
but of course, they are rather low rank, so its to be expected.
my point to you is that, coming FROM a support player that has recievied a LOT of blame in the past, supports are not immune to being the reason for a loss
that said, should you be toxic? no, never should you ever be toxic. this is classic sun tzu philosophy for keeping your army happy. but to say this is a "classic support experiance" i would say is inaccurate. for one, you are suggesting that they weren't the reason for the loss, when they missed out on so many opportunities to save their tank. and while there were moments their team over extended, there were plenty, if not more times, where the team pushed up appropriatly, but our Kiriko friend just wasnt in the fight at all, they were just at home playing sims and throwing a heal every now and then.
additionally, every single role gets blame for losses at different points. "tank diff" "rein diff" "dps diff" ive heared it all hundreds of times. so i wouldnt say "classic support experiance" when the whole thing is just full of mistakes from the very start and the person at fault is a big factor for the loss.
Again, im going to reiterate, in case you missed it the first time i said it, should you be toxic? no, never. there are definetly better ways to approach a problem player such as our kiriko. im just making the point that she did have a lot of issues and her toxic teamate shouldnt just be summed up to "classic support experiance"
@@BaxocjI think the tank not avoiding the damn easy to avoid bastion ult and feeding 1v5 was more the problem than this support here.
@@DemiCape how about the several 4v5s that took place because our support player was off in .. whats the opposite of narnia? chilling in their room eating a cookie.
im going to say again since it appears you didnt get the memo from my comment, telling me you didnt fullly read my comment.
im not gonna say a lot because im too tired,
im not defending the tank here. the tank was just as much bronze 5 as our kiriko and the tank is not inexcusable. all im saying is, the supports in general shouldnt be shown so much empathy from people as if they are immune ti mistakes. as such our kiriko.
@@Baxocj it might be kiri's fault but dont put the full blame on her it is definitely the tank that most likley resulted in the loss
@@qaysqashou9960 i swear you people are not fully reading my comment or are misunderstanding it, even though I tried to make it full clear what Im saying
"his player, was definetly a factor for the lost"
keyword factor, this did not insinuate full blame
" - edited note: im not defending their tank here. i dont want it to come off that way. their tank was absolutely atrocious"
i made this know AFter the comment because I knew how that came off because I KNOW how bad the tank is.
but of course you people only see "ohhh toxic guy defending tank" im not doing that, the tank was just as bad
"supports are not immune to being the reason for a loss"
they arent. and as a support player I have seen so many support players cry and cry from people blaming them. is it always their fault? OF COURSE NOT.... again in case you didnt read taht OF COURSE NOT
OF COURSE NOT
OF COURSE NOT
did you get the message yet?
OF COURSE NOT
but they are often overempathized with and not given proper advice as to what they could have done better, they are portrayed as playing perfectly like they themselves did nothing wrong.
as staed in my original comment being toxic is never ascceptable, its more of a throw to the game than actually throwing the game, because being toxic ruins the mindset of everybody on the team, which is exactly how any genneral loses a war, just as stasted in Sun Tzu art of war "the general who treats his military hapy and fair and keeps them well fed will see more victory than the general who keeps their military tired weary and sad" so no, before you overthink this and say "you shouldnt be toxic tho, and that tank was toxic" or some shit like that. im not saying that either
re read my comment i dont wanna come back here i just woke up, im making eggs
It's not that the Kiri wasn't healing, in fact she was throwing so much paper I'm surprised she ever had to reload kunai. The issue is she's trying to heal from a different time zone lmao. That and well the tank didn't realize that being healed doesn't make you invincible
A few weeks back I was playing Kiri and my tank decided to full send it into the enemy team during OT and died because he got anti'd and I had no Suzu, and the whole rest of the game he blamed me for 'not healing' him so I just said "dude watch the replay I was constantly healing you and you were anti'd" but he kept going on about how I was throwing and not healing even though I had the top heals in the game.
Welcome to the kiri experience
@Lispyy yeah they just expect you to have suzu
You used it "why didn't you suzu me"
You miss it"why didn't you suzu me"
You suzu but they dodge it "why didn't you suzu me"
You die "why didn't you suzu me"
The classic support experience 😔
@@cryptic1008 you suzu'd him he died 5 seconds after "Why didn't you suzu me?"
@@cryptic1008 Oh yeah, especially the dodge one is great. Recently had one where my team mate just jumped over it near a cliff, so it ended up landing in no man's land.
At least he didn't complain, but it was just an almost comedic moment.
that bastion ult was to establish bastion dominance
It's not that the Kiriko player isn't healing, it's just real bad positioning on their part. Too passive. The tank on the other hand.. Good grief he's got truly horrible positioning and he's rushing through hallways and behind walls and into the enemy spawn alone..
literally everybody was bad
welcome to the jun-
bronze 5
Hello Kiriko in the video! One thing I learned when playing in Bronze/Silv as Kiriko is how slllLOOOOW the ofuda travel time can feels, and it's slower when you're playing from too far back. dw I get that you're trying to avoid unnecessarily taking damage, but playing a bit closer and aggressively can help. Get comfy with playing closer to your team and keep an eye out for tp-escape-teammate-target just in case anything goes wrong when playing aggressively.
People running away from your kitsune rush happens all the way through gold
It’s so validating to have a talented tank player take up for the supports. He was fair, and he was honest, and it felt really good to be validated
If heals some of the trauma from all the tanks, who yelled at me in the past when I have them as hard as I could.❤
It's really awesome that Emongg has turned these into mini coaching sessions. He will enjoy watching the gameplay but seems like he can't help giving them advice.
When emong said the bronze 5 tank told kiriko she wasn't healing I just knew he was hard W keying into their spawn
Just in case Pecan reads this, if you like the backline safe support style you may feel confortable playing lifeweaver. His proyectiles travel faster and are easier to land and you may save a teammate here and there with pull. You would just have to become familiar with petal platform and you will be good to go!
I feel like if they knew that the heals have travel time, then they would play closer
Look like they should play Ana or Zen if they staying this far back 😅.
even by zen and ana standards shes way too far, she cant even see the enemy
Idk, zen is projectile so i always play pretty far up
if u stay back with ana u will die within in 1 microsecond
(if the enemy has flankers that can walk and shoot at the same time)
I generally play in silver to plat, and it’s amazing how you can have the highest heals like 8K in QP and still be accused of not healing 😅
I got into an argument with a guy because he was accusing me of not healing when I had over 16k heals 🥲
The only advice I would add to what Emongg said is that high ground is a great advantage and it's super easy to get it with Kiri's passive. I only saw the player use her passive a few times and I wasn't sure it was on purpose.
i was starting to think the player didn't know about kirikos passive because they didn't wall climb once until the end lol
I think they played Ana longer than Kiriko. I am an Ana main & I made a lot of similar mistakes. Although it's obvious now, at the time I couldn't figure out that Kiriko heals don't travel as fast as Ana.
I notice they don't use cover either, so that's likely why they play SO far back. Because they don't think to use cover even when playing so far back. I watched so many logs fly past them in the open.
Thank you for the bap window advice. It's great to know that giving up and using it for myself is the right play.
Did they wall climb once? They could play more confidently further forward if they were more confident in being able to escape vertically and also use climb to heal from a position outside the main line of fire.
Kiriko’s bastion: *solo ults enemy bastion*
Enemy bastion: So you have chosen death…
But in all seriousness, going off of what you said, 70-80% of that was the tank’s fault for making stupid plays.
I love the sub-plot of the bastions having a dual of the fates the entire game
Bro I’ve played with pecan. He is a bronze? He was in a gold lobby. I’m a bronze 5 console player btw. My brother was gold 1 and on pc.
You can have multiple people with the same name on ow
+1 to the editor for the bap window.
I don't think the issue is healing, more use of the kuni and keeping closer with the team would be helpful. Healing looked pretty good
I was so mad that the kiriko wasnt using kitsune at all xD
I swear to god this Kiriko’s left hand is going “WSWSWSWSW” the entire game and it’s starting to piss me off. Your entire team is pushing and you’re strafing forward and backwards away from the cart for some reason??? Like why????
Love these videos. Thanks emongg!!! 😂
I once played Kiriko and got flamed for not having kills on here.
You can't make this up sometimes.
The Overwatch community doesn't know what it want sometimes.
the point with kiriko is to do both,if you cant or dont really have a specific use for suzu,its better to switch
Lower ranked players want more healing and higher ranked players want more damage
well you're supposed to do both, otherwise its just healbotting :/
You should have kills. Don't listen to criticism from low rank players, they're low rank for a reason. Damage IS healing. Pressure on the enemy team means less damage taken, kills mean less damage taken, the best healing is preventing the damage to begin with. Most people understand this concept with Lucio speed boost but for some reason nobody seems to understand how it applies to DPSing on support.
And that is also the biggest mistake this bronze Kiriko is making, they are healbotting when they can be doing damage.
Getting kills is the most important thing to getting out of metal ranks
As a support main, I advise this Kiriko to not be scared to play the game. Try to use your utility more often but when needed so you can be able to get out of sticky situations. Don't healbot, use your kunais when teammates are at full health so you can help with the dmg and maybe get a kill or two. Also as Emongg said, don't play so far back as Kiriko, you need to be more with your team because when they need help on the point and you are in your spawn, you won't be able to help them. Your decision making is also kinda.. I don't know... Random? While I watched the video, I felt like you were thinking to yourself "do I heal, do I dmg, should I suzu here or maybe tp there", don't think so much, in lower ranks you don't need to make big decisions, just play and have fun, you will eventually learn what to do when and what not to do. If you feel more comfortable playing far back tho, I recommend you try Ana or Zen, even tho Zen is harder to stay alive with if you don't have teammates to peel for you. Sorry for my English and sorry for the long rant. Lol
The kiriko presses S more the W, its kind of irritating lol
Love the content that focuses on learning how to play. Great vid, thanks Emongg!
I think most of this was just by chance honestly, sometimes where kirko tried to heal the tank while he was fighting bastion, everyone else was in the way and they couldn't, and also in the beginning mercy was mostly on the tank so kirko probably didn't feel a strong need to heal him (low priority) and then some times yea they couldve saved the tank but its bronze u live and u learn
also, kiriko isnt just a healer, she has her kunais, use them. they do immaculate damage to small support or dps if you hit your shots, what im seeing if that this kiriko is mostly heal botting , and though ur keeping ur team alive, you can also help by using ur kunais to get a squishy ana for example if shes alone or far back in their backline
It was really painful watching their team not use Kiriko's Kitsune 😐
Ah yes, 3 likes and one view
Mmmm... makes sense
Nothing wrong there
Bastions always trying to 1v1 each other and solo ulting each other is the most relatable thing ever lol
day in the life as a support main: someone like this ram always bitching about not getting healed 😭
if people saw my kiri gameplay it would be so humiliating i stay missing suzu AND kunai
let's look at the facts in their defenses if they not healing.
1. Healers are easy pray for flankers (since you know 5v5 means no tank to cover the support)
2. Most healers used for supporting DPS damage
3. Support is the only one that doesn't take hours to find a game.
(Overall I don't judge healers who go full DPS mode and stop healing because blizzard made it clear you have hate playing support) (I used be support but swap to 5v5 made it so I cannot enjoy being support anymore)
the whole point of the video is that they were healing - and healing too much and from too far away.
I'm sorry this has been your experience. personally, I love playing support more in 5v5. it's more aggressive! but it's okay not to like the 5v5 experience, everyone is different and we're all allowed to have preferences.
notice that an issue i have is i play on gm tips and have lowest deaths as any role but my team doesnt play like that. i guess thats why im not going up. my question is how to climb when dealing with this nonsense? its on every role and every game and its more infurating that my last 30 games, the average rank was 5 ranks below my rank EVERY SINGLE GAME. except one. i do not have the ability to carry under-performers. why am i being judged on that. if i could get games above my rank. i could defensively play my way up, but the fact that these teammates get you to expose yourself. its pretty bad
my advice is to stop trying to play like GMs. you're not GM, your teammates aren't GM, it's not going to work. your games are going to be scuffed, your teammates are going to make scuffed plays, you're going to make scuffed plays. that's okay. what matters is figuring out how to contribute value to the teams in your ranks.
let me give you an example. I'm not in GM either and I play support, so I focus on supporting the things my team is doing, even if it's not the ideal strategy or what I see streamers do. if I play Mercy, I don't necessarily hard pocket my dps 100% of the time because sometimes my tank will get more value from my resources. if I play Brig, I just focus on staying close to my other support and keeping inspire up and saving packs for teammates who are flankers. I don't go for too many off angles or flanks. I don't overcomplicate things, I focus on the basics.
something that has helped me a lot has been focusing on what my team is doing instead of what they """should""" be doing. instead of worrying that my team isn't playing optimally, I just try to make sure what we do is successful.
hopefully this helps even just a little bit or at least gives you something to think about. good luck!
No damage kiriko wtf. Taking ages to get ult too. Why even play her.
i can sense the fear in this kiriko’s positioning -support main
The way they play is so boring, why would someone play like this
is it just me thats annoyed by the constantly holding heal on full health teammates
how much you wanna bet someone told that kiri the worst thing you can do is die so she played as far back as she could to increase her survivability.
Why is no one talking about the absolute heal bot, like how you play like that
omg if youre that scared don't even *think* of comp.
This Kiriko really needs to just hold W. Why is she constantly walking further away when healing.
I am surprised with how patient Emongg is being with them, I could never. I would just be basically repeating hold W the entire video if I was doing this VOD review.
I will say yes the tank was horrendous with his team the kiriko wasn’t even trying to damage people kiriko has a insane damage potential and she’s just wasting it and she wasn’t using High ground either her whole team wasn’t so it’s everyone’s fault on that team only people doing something in kirikos team were like bastion and Moira
I love watching these and seeing that they completely ignore how important sound is to tell where they are like there were so many times i could hear the hanzos arrows from the off amgle on the first game
i wonder if the player struggles with awareness.
Might be playing really far back because it gives them the big picture of what's going on but in reality they need to be closer up while also being aware of who is around them and their health.
Try not to say "play a little closer" challenge
Bronze players have a tendency to save their ulta for OW3 💀
Gotta save it until PvE releases so they can celebrate.
Had to check one of those bastions wasnt me a for a sec, whenever i see another bastion i have to assert dominance, it’s on sight and war commences
As someone who main Kiriko, Mercy and Ana this was a bit painful to watch.
playing extremely defensive on a character that has huge dmg potential and great healing.
also not attempting to save teammates with suzu from ults. I know it takes practice. But atleast try.
that soldier dying in the bastion ult was saveable.
anyway, i dont think you underhealed, as you healed 97% of the match. Though like Emong says, Distance is your issue here.
and hey, i do it sometimes too. Though i realize it often.
i used to play like that. Now i nearly always have my tp on cooldown as i move around all the time.
also, your tank was garbage. constantly diving in soloing the enemy team in unfavorable positions.
you could have dived in and healed, but that would just have cost both of your lives.
was interesting to watch though.
Just crazy to me(as a new player) how mnay OW 1 players still dont have a clue to whats going on half the time 🤷♂️
Even worse the ones thay clearly barely know the game but play competitive. Wish they'd learn the game in other modes first.
The bastions solo ulting duel was so funny lmaooooo.
Last night I had a game where one rando support would hardly heal. They healed more on zen than they did on baptiste because he was just being a dps. Zen can work if played right, but this guy was playing zen like widow. Sitting in our extreme backline and sometimes throwing his heal orb on me. But when he switched to bap he literally did nothing but damage and made a window for him and him alone. And despite doing nothing but damage, he got like, two kills by the end of the game. THATS what throwing looks like as support.
Thankfully this was just in quick play. I would have reported him if it was comp
obviously this tank needs to learn to not walk up to turreted bastions and to use cover, but as someone who's only plat, I love when I have an super aggressive tank and I'm on kiriko. i go in with them (and usually another dps) and we just chase down the enemy since they're not expecting such hyper-aggression. and if it all goes wrong, i just tp out. but usually on push or hybrid maps (on attack) we just create a crazy temp and roll, and the poor enemy team is left just trying to react and pick up the pieces.
Painful to watch. It doesn't matter how often you press your healing button at that point, you are so far and it travels way too slow, which is basically no healing. Could have picked Lifeweaver and be a healbot, since his projectile is faster = 100% more value with this playstyle.
This was so painful to watch haha
From my perspective this person shouldve been a way more aggresive healer. They might be scared of dying or too worried about stats but its better to follow your tank into risky fights and maybe win than to leave them to die. Its the same as trickling if you leave your teammates to die all the time. Vice versa though the tank cannot be getting melted immediately. They need to mitigate damage and hold choke points and protect healers while the dps does their thing. That being said the healers do need to focus on their tanks because they take the most damage this guy was more worried about his dps than his tank. This has to he low rank gameplay. Even the youtuber said he couldve been closer several times. Even from the start. Lol finally the youtuber started to say what i was thinking towards the second half of the video.
the insane healbotting and passiveness hurts to watch like you have the potential to 2 tap a squishy and turn fights but nope just sitting behind your team and letting them do everything.. where are the off angles and flanks lmao this person definitely deserves bronze 5
wow this kiriko is playing suuuuuper defensive... not helpful with the kit- kiriko ult is one of the scariest ults in the game sometimes, definitely could be utilised more if this player was more aggressive
they’re not really taking advantage of her kit. Healing is not the issue at all. Need more damage instead of heal botting. Practice throwing kunai in between healing ofudas and being with your team instead of playing back
Why is nobody talking about her healbotting? I feel like one thing she shouldve done is used her kunais more. I saw her constantly healing even when everyone was full HP.
I had a tank last night (plat) and at 1:22, that's what my tank did ALL GAME. Just rushed in 1v5 and then claimed healer diff at the end haha too funny bro
They’re complaining about Kiri not healing, I just watched the first fight and I think they have the opposite issue. Not attacking.
Low ranked supports note... enable your fckin tank and help them and you get your ults. Stop sitting in the back and playing one dimensionally.
To play just to play sure you can use any character you want but to play to win no your team comp is so important because this seasons team matching is atrocious and you’ll be forced to pick the character that you didn’t want to play but you have to play to pick up the slack of your team and even then it still may not be enough.
The word of a bronze is worth of no value at all, why do you care about what is the tank saying? He is literally bronze, he has no f***ing idea about the game.
Kiriko is a support not s healer Overwatch players don't understand that NOT EVEN IN HIGHER ELOS
Well he heals enough even too much. He acts like a heal bot. He should het more of angle and look for damages. Here he relies too much on his time. You cannot climb like this especially in Bronze
Of all the bronze lobbies I've seen, this one is the most bronze 😂 there's so little potential 😂
Typical tank blaming supports for its own stupidity and mistakes. Thats why its rank is bronze.
yeah i learned to use bap ult for me when i play bap. no one uses it, so screw it ill take advantage of it. i swear people think its a curse or something
The biggest problem with tanks in low ranks is that is that they rush in, going out of the support’s line of sight and expect to get heals
there's no way they've been playing for 5-6 months... they probably meant 5-6 days
Got Accused by of NOT Healing? my response in OW2 would be, "stats don't lie"
16:50 - Did the sig just swap to Orisa to counter the Zarya...
13:19 now i know its a big nono to stand still but like ur making it harder for urself just moving so strangely here i noticed u do this to urself alot
Accused of not healing 😳 she's a f heal BOT!!!! As a kiriko main this is PAIN
11:15 lmaaoooo i can relate to that window
window on highnoon is useless, but window on cassady besides that is pretty sick
as a bastion main this is how i play when theres an enemy bastion, or when their dps switches to bastion to try and diff me, thats a challenge, that shits real
I think that Kirk needs to turn his sensitivity up a bit. He can’t even keep up with his own teammates movements.
If theres a forced 50 /50 winrate then When they balance heroes from their win data its all wrong
I love just seing them all just like turning off after that won fight on 2nd point defense.
Selfish bap windows are the play, I do my best healing by killing their dps.
Idk man, I definitely feel like this Kiriko healed, like that's all they did. Kind of funny.