Disappointing England & The Harry Kane Conundrum | EURO 2024
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- How concerning was the England performance against Denmark? Why are things not clicking with such a talented forward line? How has Marc Guéhi stepped up to be England’s most impressive player across the first two games?
Gary and Micah review England’s draw with Denmark with our first ever live audience. Sat on the sofas in the background after an enjoyable dinner are David Moyes and Thomas Frank, who aren’t shy to chip in with advice for the boys where needed.
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00:00 Intro
00:25 Our first live audience
01:45 Gary’s on-air mistake
05:50 England vs Denmark
11:00 Denmark won the tactical battle
12:40 The Harry Kane conundrum
17:00 Why is Southgate too defensive?
27:30 Micah avoided Gareth Southgate at a cafe
29:32 Marc Guéhi’s incredible performance against Denmark
33:00 John Stones needs to get up the pitch
34: Denmark were tactically better
35:30 Spain’s high press
36:55 Outro - กีฬา
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David moyes and Thomas Frank in background getting pissed 😂 brilliant
Clinking glasses and everything!! Haha
@@paulstack8615touching tips too!
🤣🤣🤣
Moyes is the scottish southgate west ham fans will know
Would love to have heard that conversation
I like hear Gary talk tactically. Because he is usually in presenter mode.
This 💯 Refreshing to hear Lineker’s opinion rather than him just asking the questions.
@@SuperMillwall That was an excellent exchange between the two on BBC..after the game..
Let him manage England
If you noticed during the post match analysis he queued up Richards to ask him a question so he could become a pundit.
He's not even a pundit but gives better insight than Rio ever could
Lineker was FANTASTIC in this, you can tell how much he cares and he’s spot on about Southgate unfortunately. Things have got to change, quick
Too bad most of his other shows are full of of tripe
He should just do this
@@solarmaru49couple wines & the gloves are off
Unfortunately he's realising what we realised as fans realised about 5years ago. Southgate is inept.
I wouldn't hold my breath for any quick changes to bring it back because hes had years to chsnge and is still doing the exact same s*** playinh defensive football with a team who's strength is in attack.
It's so simple. Utilise his players like they re utilised at club level. Whete they all play top tier attacking football.
He’s drunk and annoying
Yeah amazing what a couple of wines will do 😉
Fuck this podcast… I wanna hear the chat between Moyes and Frank 🤣
Would’ve been far more interesting wouldn’t it
Second that.
David Moyes loving life in the background 😆
He’s made some money for sure!
@@MovieTrailerDatabasehe ain’t that rich mate
@@StephenCarrIsBaldDavid Moyes could stay in an Asia country for 40 years without working with his salary alone at West Ham,he is definitely rich but not stupid rich.
@@Axelblaze1022no chance, he was getting 4K a week at West Ham, Moyes net worth is just shy of 1 million
He got a £5m payoff from man united alone
I've always wondered what Thomas Franks was like out of the dugout and I'm pleasantly surprised. What a genuine bloke.
Top drawer ain’t he. Great manager as well.
@@PaoloLeryI love him at my club. He’s a legend. Can’t think him enough for what he’s done and doing for us
@@itsgettingdark1134Is he your best manager ever?
@@br-jj6re Yes must be the best manager in our history
The Kalvin Phillips comment is revealing in that it shows that Southgate knows no other way to play!!
He should be sacked by the FA just for that one remark alone ...
If we've not found a reaction to Phillips not playing - then that's Southgate's fault for playing him earlier in the season, same as when he kept playing Macguire. Spain would find a way to cope without rodri for example, they're also not scared to throw a youngster in. The first game was perfect to blood Wharton or Mainoo, to give them tournament experience in the least pressured game - instead Southgate stuck with the failed TAA experiment, whilst playing at least 2 others out of position
He picked the players so why mention Philips
@@Eagle786-ny9rfbecause Southgate mentioned him ffs. Disgusting
"It's really hard to be critical of Gareth Southgate" - No, it really isn't difficult.
Thomas Frank checking the vintage in the background is classic
If Southgate plays foden on the left again he should be instantly sacked, Kane is so effective when he has runners either side of him that’s why Gordon needs to play there
Yup, that’s why he and Sonny were so deadly together. A brilliant passer and a willing runner who finishes his chances.
Instantly sacked 😂😂😂
Should be sacked anyway tbh. And probably two tournaments ago.
The fact that he has a team full of some of the best attacking players in the world. All in form. And hardly any defenders and the ones he does have are good for going forward but still he wants to play defensive football just shows how tactically inept he is.
Foden just had his best ever season. Won player of the year playing down the middle but he has him on the left.
Whilst i do think he's shit himself in the foot by taking so much inexperience. The best of that inexperience. Cole Palmer and Mainoo (have barely had a look in)
@@rhyschadwick3269You got any footage of him shitting himself in the foot?
Kane is a great goalscorer but we need pace, Trent should be playing rb with Watkins /toney making those runs then swap foden with Bellingham, foden is wasted out left. Kane either needs to be dropped or have a pacey striker up front with him. How the hell are we meant to beat anyone when kane keeps dropping in deep. Negative football does not win tournaments. The whole set up stinks
Southgate is clueless. He could barely get a job for a Championship side. Why the hell is he managing the national team?
Because the FA are spineless bureaucrats who like a PC, soft, yes man in the job 🧐
3-5-2 incoming…
F.A yes man
Spot on comment
Trent as a dm 😂 well known he can not defend so defencive mid isn't going work
Southgate is shite all round
Every England manager going has been useless. One trophy in entire history
@@jcjackson4626 non had a squad with so much talent troughout the squad and spread over european giants
Shearer raging all game 😂 he was the only English player willing to attack
I found it annoying. He was just whining the whole game. Very negative he was.
@@Mikejames1080rightly so.
@@NewEstablishment I hope he isn't commentating next game though. Can't do with that again. Almost got a headache
@@Mikejames1080 haha yea that’s fair.
Nah it's refreshing to hear commentators critical of southgate ball...
Shame there’s no Shearer, was hoping to hear what he really thinks of Southgate 😂
Shearer is travelling back from Frankfurt today, we'll get his perspective in the next episode. 🙋♂️
@@therestisfootball He will have calmed down by then , sadly.
Shearer and Southgate is the same age and they were part of the same England under-20 and under-21 team in their era. 🤣🤣
@@ronnyron4681ahhhh it's all coming into focus now... 😂
He gave his opinion on MOTD about Watkins actually moving the defence and he doesn't need to score every touch because he has so much talent around him.
These Euros pods are some of the best yet. Just pure chaotic energy after all the travelling, drinking and mixing with different folk.
Spain can press with morata yet england can't do it with kane
We’re too deep for Kane to press. Plus all this pressing stuff is such guff when we have the players to dominate the possession.
Morata always had more pace than Kane
Spain have superior technical players….
Spain were 1-0 up and were still attacking Italy on 90+ mins. We stopped doing that as soon as we went 1-0 up!
Morata has been a runner his whole career
Shearer sounded as mad as most england supporters have been for the last 7-8 years . Gareth thought he could win a tournament with his anti football football now he looks completely confused that playing this way is no good.
England are the worst team to watch they have some stand out players that would make other international teams but anyone would look bad playing walking football.
Too little too late from Shearer and the rest of the craven media. He’s had his tongue up Southgate’s back passage for years.
Completely agree my problem is I know my opinion doesn't matter so I try and get behind them to enjoy it more but it's just so shit 😢😂
Yep. And it seems that's all the English pundits are finally realising what most England fans realised years ago. Southgate is tactically inept. He's often picked the wrong players, not played the best players and not played them in positions that they suit. He's played defensive football with little to know strength in defense and now he finally picks the best players but he's outright playing defensive football with a team full of attackers.
Is Gary really this boring😅
"as mad as most england supporters have been for the last 7-8 years England have made semis and finals....goodness me, have you seen englands tournament record from 1980-2015?!?! It was dire. Why do england fans view as anything but a trophy as failure. They have NEVER won it in the modern era.
Seeing as Alan’s not there I’ll say it: get Gordon in there
Yes!
What will we do after he flops as well?
@@DontLookAtMyProfilePic11it can't be worse than Foden performance at LW
@@Axelblaze1022 So gordon is the new great white Hope?
Its the sitting midfielders causing the main issues, we don't need two holding midfielders, our defence is top class no matter what anyone says, the holding midfielders are causing us to sit far to deep, its creating an issue for us up front, when they get the ball they are alone up there, no options, no runs through the middle from Rice and no one for Trent to hit a ball to as we have no runners overlapping. Southgate has the entire set up wrong in the middle and further up the pitch. If you play trent you have to play runners like Gordon and Watkins, why take Trent off then replace him with a holding midfielder, then bring on a runner like Watkins ? it makes no sense.
I love how natural the show is!
This podcast is just a breath of fresh air, week after week, great work guys
whereas watching England is a breath of hot piss
Wasn’t even aware Lineker, Shearer and Richards had a podcast.
This was fun to watch, after such a horrid display yesterday this was much needed lol.
Frank and Moyes look like they’d be a good laugh to hang out with 😂
Whoever appoints England managers needs to be sacked
That's Prince William lol
@@alexanderhowarth6460 About to say the late queen.
@soyUsernameWasTaken not sure what you're getting at. As the head of the FA, it literally is Prince William. I can't tell from your comment if you know that.
Thomas Frank in the background, i hope you got an episode with him
god no, hes like an old woman
Ben White laughing his head off. To think he went from tactical coaching from Arteta to listening to Steve Holland and Southgate, and people thought HE WAS THE ISSUE. Do me a fucking favour
Absolutely right. White saw the writing on the wall and didn't want the agg
100%. It's shocking to me that when every pundit has been praising Southgate ahead of the Euros, saying he would be good enough for Man Utd etc, that none mentioned the fact that one of their best defenders whose incredibly versatile, refused to play under Southgate and Holland.
@@KetaManiaccIt had more to do with White being disgusted with Qatar and their treatment of certain minorities than anything to do with playing for Southgate
Was interested by Walkers comments in the post match interview '2nd guessing making overlapping attacking runs incase we lose the ball and concede and I get the blame for it'. Almost as if the players are scared of playing how they normally do out of fear of the publics opinions. All we want to see is the players expressing themselves how they normally do all season. Would forgive players for making errors if they show abit of desire and hunger
Been saying it for a long time, they are shit scared of making a mistake, mindset is “ don’t lose “ not “ let’s batter them and win this 5-0 “, it’s not that they’re shit footballers but they have zero positive mindset, and where is that coming from ? I think we all know.
That transition was impressive that Linekar did on air but Rio ruined it as you just caught him saying “that was smooth” 😂😂😂
What mistake did gary make? Cant find it
@TheAdArchive - I heard 👂 Rio saying that too!
@@flexermc4333- Gary was asking Thomas Frank his thoughts on Southgate but had to stop midway through (but before Thomas answered) because BBC were going live to talk to Southgate. Not a major mistake really in my opinion.
@@doubleophysiquecreation1525 got it. Thanks for explaining
@@doubleophysiquecreation1525 not a bad mistake but smooth from Gary
Thomas Frank is bloody awesome. Very under-rated manager, would love him at leeds united. I'm sure many clubs would love him
Nobody calls out Southgate for being clueless; all we hear is people skirting around the issue instead of saying "he's playing Foden as a LW and thinks Kalvin Phillips is irreplaceable... the guy's a womble". The day a BBC or ITV presenter says that is the day I'll respect their opinion.
I'd wana see Shearer call Southgate out in person just as he did with ten hag.
Have you been living under a rock? He is one of the most criticised people in the country right now.
@markgreen5153 Yeah, but only by the plebs and foreigners. The insiders all protect their man. It's gross, but that's England. A country ruled by foreign occupiers since 1066
@markgreen5153 not directly by the BBC and ITV pundits, if you read my message as I wrote it. He doesn't get criticised directly by them, they skirt around the issues and don't say he's got no tactical ability and picks his favourites.
@@Ejdfj again you have clearly been living under a rock. Shearer has constantly stated he would start Gordon.
Gary is definitely tipsy here 😂
Yes, think you are right there. Look at all the slosh behind him.
Harry Kane plays high press with Bayern this year. Foden and Walker with ManCity, Saka with Arsenal. You can't blame the players for that.
Got chills listening to Gary speak about what England need to do moving forward - actually changed from listening on the pod to watching the video. Loving the passion in this analysis - I think the red wine helps :)
In the last tournament there was a big debate about who would start at RB out of Walker, Trent and Trippier. Looks like Southgate finally found his solution by having all 3 at the same time...
Reece James is clear.
Gareth is not a top manager, he doesn't know what to do with the talent! No team in the top 10, would want him as a manager! So tactically inept, he's always thinking about defend rather then attack. When we have some of the best talent in the world, moving forward! ❤️
Who WERE top managers? Capello? Eriksson? How far did they get? Who are the great managers who'd be happy to manage England? It's a completely thankless job.
Please tell me there is a Thomas Frank episode 🙏🏾
Gary spent half of this episode talking about how Gareth has been poor tactically and how they're set up wrong... yet im seeing so many people saying they need to call out southgate. What are they supposed to do, call for him to be sacked mid tournament? Questioning the decisions and tactics is all they can do at this stage
they eally should sack him yesterday, any caretaker manager woud be more tactically adept and new manager bounce :)
Love this, Gary definitely a tad tipsy here!, awsome stuff!!
Loving the passion from Gary here, good to see some behind the scenes action too
behind the scenes of some stuffy boardroom from the 80s lol
Micah - your smile and laugh is *everything*.
Commentating as a Swede here, by the way, and really have nothing constructive to say apart from that I hope both England and Scotland will make it out of their respective groups. Having lived in the UK since 1998 and being involved in local football - as a player earlier in Sweden and now as a photographer at Brigg Town FC - I am just really a football fan.
If you're a football fan, you're definitely not an England fan. They have never played good football. Playing so scared and disorganised, it makes me want them to loose.
@@mindsp3ak3r I grew up with Scandinavian football so have seen my fair share of snooze-worthy football. Different countries play different styles of football. On paper, there are some incredibly talented players in England. To be fair, in my 26 years over here, I’ve never heard two people agreeing over how the England team should be run and maybe that’s the issue. But, like I said, I’m only observing and, yeah, I’m still enjoying the Euros. Football every day for a couple of weeks, what’s not to like ✌🏼
Richards is so cringe. He needs to dial it back. He was sane this episoe
@@solarmaru49 We can’t all like the same. If we did, it’d be incredibly boring. I was brought up being told that if you’ve got nothing nice to say about someone, don’t say anything. Saying someone is ‘cringe’ is something one should probably keep to oneself.
"Scandinavian football" please talk for yourself and Norway, we Danes always tried playing exciting, no 4-4-2 "kick and rush" Brexit-ball like you lot.
“Kane needs to start pressing and make more runs”
Sorry but that hasn’t been part of his game for a few years now, so why would you want to shoehorn that into him halfway through a tournament?
If we want our striker to play that way, surely the better option is to just start Watkins? He’s proven he can do that exact job all season long.
Absolutely well said. As Shearer says he needs runners around him and Kane needs to stay high up the pitch. I know this won’t be popular but I’d really like to see Toney given a start in the next game either alongside Kane or instead of. Or even Palmer.
@@MovieTrailerDatabase Toney is behind Watkins and Palmer in the picking order imo, I'm almost certain Southgate only took him as a late penalty specialist sub for the knockout stages because he's been trash since returning from his ban. If Southgate wants the best out of Kane he needs Gordon playing down the left wing taking the ball to the byline and into the box frequently. If he wants the focus mainly on attacking through the centre with Foden and Bellingham he needs to start Waktins
Mbappe never presses, Ronaldo or Messi in their pomp never pressed...and do you ever see their countrymen asking them to be dropped for Kolo Muani, Helder Postiga or Garnacho 🤣
@@Ben-gd4db 👏👏👏
Im sorry, but Kane is nowhere near any of those three when it comes to the ability to make things happen all on his lonesome, so can't understand how he is getting away with doing no pressing.
He may score a fairly decent amount of goals, but im pretty sure the only consistent denominator in him never winning anything is only himself. I wonder if Southgate is too much of a pussycat to tell him to stay up on the pitch, or if Kane is just refusing to follow orders, but him dropping low is just baffling with the amount of talent behind him that can play him through. England dont need him to drop down to their cb's to start things any more than Bayern does, yet he does is every damn match again and again.
Moyes & Southgate cut from the same cloth - The way England are playing is exactly how we was playing under him at West Ham, except we conceded nearly 80 goals last season!
Moyes is definitely more pragmatic, had more success, and can actually keep a team in the top flight.
Id take a swap for moyes for the rest of this tournament 😂😂
I have to say, I am usually Gary Lineker's biggest critic, but I agree with everything he is saying here.
After the dogshit performance against Serbia, talksports Alex Crook suggested that the system isn't working and they'll struggle against Denmark. Moyes response was "oh and what makes you an expert? you've clearly done your coaching badges haven't you". Apart from Southgate, Moyes must be the only person on the planet that couldn't see that abject performance against Denmark coming.
Southgate takes the batteries out his TV remote when he's not using it.
This was a great episode, so relatable! Bunch of guys talking about the match after dinner with a few drinks - you know it was happening all over England!
I feel sorry for Trent. England needs runners upfront for trent to work in the midfield. So that he can ping them long passes. But there's nothing... England has the best squad. But the manager oouuff!
i’m of a similar opinion, his head is always up and scanning but there’s no one to advance the ball to
You must be a brother because those people don’t feel sorry for him, sad but true.
Kane is the problem. He can’t run. Plays as a 10 with no runners beyond
Germany, France, Portugal are arguably better this England team is a bit overhyped Spain also has a good balanced squad
Trents not good enough to play in midfield at the top level.
We didn't notices Gary's blooper until we all heard rio say "that was smooth" during the transition lol
What happened bro
Podcasts away from mainstream media with professional presenters and wine free from the shackles of BBC / PC brigade are the future - MSM will be no more 10 years from now. What a refreshing podcast, thoroughly enjoyable.
You know what manager would be perfect for England: Jurgen Klopp.
If Germany win this tournament, they would most likely keep Niglesman
Wait until klopp misses football and propose.
England desperate need a manager who : 1-knows ball, 2- yell with players so they can work their ass.
Southgate is like ETH.
Imagine you're in the team meeting, discussing the game and the manager is "I-I think, tha-that you guys did-didnt play well today. I-I mean, you-you played well but-but what I mean..."
If I'm sat there, I bloody disconnect, in my mind would be "what the heel I'm doing here, this guy ain't leading us to a trophy"
When you get Klopp or Guardiola you get a real speech. How many times liverpool were sloopy and second half talk turned the game around.
These players are serial winners, some PLs, some UCLs, they ain't listening this clown, 100% sure of that.
😂 klopp is below Southgate England will win Euro
@@stevieC11Hanworth Do British media and fans have an exceptionally bad memory? Last match England played before the EURO´s were against Iceland and England LOST! WHEN have Germany, Spain, France, Denmark lost against Iceland? Maybe adjust expectations a bit in relation to latest matches before a tournament!?
Shouting "It´s coming home" every tournament are a bit hubris when you have not won a EURO last 60 years, or am I wrong? Try to enjoy the journey WITH your team through ups and downs and maybe you will get a better overall experience than if you go into every tournament with the expectation of winning it. Just a friendly advice.
I like Brits by the way. Only a friend will tell you the truth that might hurt being confronted with.
All nations sing it’s coming home.
They can’t come up with their own songs.
It’s just a song mate to galvanise the team and enjoy the crowd.
No one actually thinks it’s coming home.
In theory it sounds fun but Klopps hate for the English media piling unnecessary pressure on him will definitely get on his nerves. When he said he ran out of energy - I’m convinced he was talking about the media side of things (in games he couldn’t have had more energy) because if you compare his post match conferences when he joined compared to the last two seasons - he was clearly frustrated. England manager is probably his worst nightmare in that sense (Liverpool fan btw)
Southgate like EtH?? They're not in the same league.
Why are we so surprised. I could count on the fingers of one hand the number of outstanding England performances I've witnessed. I am 62! 😉
you were alive in 66 , stop being spoiled ;)
that must make you at least 75 if you were alive for the world cup in 62
Let me guess, one of them must be the 1990 England v Germany where Lineker scored a goal ...
@@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere the first tournament i remember was Mexico 70 ...IN COLOUR! 😃
@@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere
That guy: "I am 62."
You: "You must be at least 75."
The brain rots, eh.
That’s the best one you’ve ever done. Great atmosphere great banter. Keep that format !!
Great podcast btw, great hearing Gary speak like this ignore the negativity so many clearly haven't listened to this properly an just gone from soundbites!
The problem is not Foden, the problem is not Kane. The problem is compromising several areas of the pitch to accommodate Jude in the 10, and the irony is, Jude isn’t even a natural 10, he’s an 8, yet Gareth insists on playing Trent 8. It’s completely absurd. He has all the pieces at his disposal, and a 2yr old could put this puzzle together.
Jude & Rice double pivot
Foden 10
Gordon on the left
Natural balance restored, heart of the pitch bolstered, Foden now in his optimal position, Kane’s toes ain’t getting stood on, and Gordon can hold the width creating space in central pockets for Foden, or be a runner in behind when Kane drops deep, and Jude & Rice bully the midfield.
Still not good enough, because neither Rice nor Bellingham are good enough on the ball. One of Mainoo or Wharton are needed. It's really that simple
@@jamesgunn7You wanna play a kid with 20mins of international experience? Ok.
Stop crying 😭 Just Sack Southgate in the middle of the tournament like Ivory Coast 🇨🇮
And England can win the Euro 2024.
😂😂😂😂 we've seen Foden playv35 times in the shirt... small, weak, slow. He needs surrounded by oil money all Stars and a system designed for him or this is what you get in 34 of his 36 caps
That works for me!
"Pasta was overcooked" and they showed Gary in grey 😂😂
These players are not negative for their clubs, so has to be Southgates game plan.
Trent being the scapegoat is unfair in that he plays him with Kane who plays deep only offering short pass options. He then brings on Watkins who is making runs upfront but takes Trent off so there is no one with the long pass ability to find him. Southgate is a great man manager but terrible tactician
It's not a question of negativity. It's actually the opposite: Southgate has been trying to fit too many attacking talents in one team, and doesn't have a proper defensive midfielder who can mop up in front of defence and act as a conduit to distribute it effectively to attacking midfielders and forwards. He tried to play Rice and TAA as defensive midfielders when neither one has the game to perform that role.
These lot were happy to call out Ten Hag and speculate about his job immediately after he won the FA Cup + doubled down on it on the podcast.
But when Gareth had 2 back to back performances like that, they retreated back to trepidatious narratives and very mildly critical
Just exposed themselves as utter hypocrites. And nationalists
Possibly because Southgate has a better track record with England than Ten Hag has with Man Utd.
It also comes down to how enjoyable England are to watch. I'd rather see England lose 5-4 in a proper firefight than draw 1-1 against Denmark in a crappy show.
100 percent
Its about playing good football I am sure most fans would not be so frustrated if we didn't win but lost trying to outscore a team and playing fluid fast football
Absolutely disagree. Knockout football is 100% results based on
You wouldn’t want that in reality.
as a Scot, I can’t believe England still have Southgate. Imagine if they had a really attacking coach, they’d win the lot!
England do win a lot to be fair. They havent lost in the euro group stages for twenty years. They dont have a divine right to win the whole tournament.
@@2011hwalker they’ve not won an international trophy since 1966. With the squad they have now they really could (and should) have beaten Italy. They went 1-0 up and then sat off them rather than go for another to try and kill the game!
I think they’re got the best squad in the tournament and with the right manager they could definitely win something.
It's such a strange comment given that the big problem is that Southgate is trying to fit too many attacking players into the team.
Amazing show! I love how relaxed and authentic everyone is
Love the normal pod but these tournament specials are magic!! Even better to watch than to listen, the ‘odd’ swear word makes it even better. Keep up the good work chaps!
Football is all about balance and you can’t play all your good players expecting them to figure it out on the pitch . The hard truth about the midfield is Foden and Jude can’t play together, you are going to have to sacrifice 1 of them to play alongside Wharton/Mainoo and Rice with Gordon on the wing to get things working in the middle of the park . Also the left back option is a disgrace especially when you snubbed Mitchell and Colwill for an injured shaw
England can play with two 10's, Southgate just refuses that as an option and won't consider anything other than two holding mids. Foden is getting lost on the wing because he doesn't belong there, but there is no reason Bellingham and Foden can't play together next to each other in front of Rice. Bellingham has a high defensive work rate anyway so we don't need another defensive mid next to Rice
He should have taken Chilwell and Doughty. Massive mistake!
Of course Foden & Bellingham can play together as they're great players. We have them both for the next 10+ years so in your view one of their England careers is effectively over?
bellinghams legs turned to lead after 20mins of the first game
They could play together behind a Haaland type who pins CB back to give them space but Kane, Foden and Bellingham all occupying the same 10 role is too unbalanced
Micah, Trent doesn’t go to the byline and cross the ball at all anymore, hasn’t done it for at least two seasons for Liverpool, what he needs is runners in behind if you’re playing him in midfield. It’s ridiculous playing him there with a load of lads who are stationary, and that is not his fault at all
As a German I hope we play against England in the next round. Would be much easier then against Denmark
No bro. As a german aswell i can tell England will explode further down the line and they may do it against us. They are dangerous.. a sleeping giant
@@colinpumpernickel2605no, we concentrate on playing exciting football instead.
@@colinpumpernickel2605England is being slagged off in all languages.
@@TheHesseJames 'German' and 'exciting' is an oxymoron.
@@lotuseater7247 English women disagree
Loving these podcasts guys, Great banter. Keep 'em coming Gary, Micah and Alan. ⚽👍
Imagine Bielsa Ball with this England team!!
Kane had one hell of a season for Bayern… don’t blame him - blame the manager
Yeah Southgate played shit didn't he.. couldn't trap a bag of sand
Kane didn't win anything with bayern... who had won the German league for more than 10 seasons in a row... soon as he joins the team they don't win
More like a season from hell. Kicked out of the German Cup early on by a third league team, not even second in the Bundesliga, and not even in the CL finals.
How is that Kane’s fault that Bayern didn’t win the league? 🤣🤣🤣 He scored 44 GOALS in 45 GAMES FFS!
He joined when an INVINCIBLE team happened in the Bundesliga. So it’s Kane’s fault he scored 44 goals and Leverkusen lost 0 games… Yeah it’s all Harry‘s fault 😂😂😂 Clueless.
The commenters on here only read memes and have not watched a single Bayern game
It's not a conundrum, ffs. I don't get why it's so hard for you "pundits" to see it. The midfield + left side are the main issues. Rice NEEDS one of Mainoo or Wharton next to him. Not Gallagher, who runs about but does nothing with the ball. Not Bellingham either. Gordon MUST start on the left.
OMG. are you suggesting that Foden get benched because Gary Neville doesnt want to live in a world in which we ponder not having Foden in the starting 11.
You just proved it is a conundrum as I wouldnt have anyone play alongside rice, we don't need 2 sitting midfielders, have rice, and Bellingham with foden in the 10 and gordon left wing, the team is balanced then just get some actual pressing going
@@proevoisace7 I agree, the sitting midfielders are holding us far too deep. Our defence look like they would be absolutely fine 1v1, clearly the two sitting midfielders isn't working, he has to change it next game, if he doesn't he needs to go home now.
100%
@@proevoisace7Rice,Bellingham and Foden would be better than the dross we’re watching now. However they would be found out against better sides, who acknowledge that you need midfielders that get set tempo and control the game
Are people forgetting that Kane used to do high press at Spurs under Poch? All these players know how to high press and Southgate not seeing that, is extremely disappointing
Love to see Gary here, not being the safe presenter, but showing his ball knowledge and what he really thinks. Spot on
Southgate the type of guy to charge his phone at 99 😂
He's definitely one to turn all the plugs off before he goes on holiday
no, hes the opposote of prepared
@PazLeBon no he's definitely prepared, he's just overly safe and extremely simple. He has the tools, but doesn't know how to use them.
@@ashleycrandon4744 yeah well in such a snowflakey world right now,, safe and steady is probabaly the call
Southgate is the type of guy to write his car off in a crash and the still put the handbrake on the wreckage
The reason we are in this position is because the media and pundits have backed Gareth for years because he is a good guy. It is clear he is not capable to managing this team.
And yet he has the best track record as an England manager in major torunaments of anybody in the last fifty years, and it's not even close. (The only other contender would be Venables, but he had a single tournament in charge.)
I enjoy listening to you guys, to the point I listen twice. Living the more frequent Euro’s content!
really enjoyed having the lads in the background having there own separate banter and conversation occasionally chipping in. This and the overlap are the best things on football, far better than the crap sky puts up!
Can you tell Shearer to actually call out Southgates incompotence on commentary. He doesn't represent the nations thoughts
He's Southgate's mate from their England days, PC and likes his easy job on the BBC..no chance he'll do it.🤑
3-5-2 incoming..
He did during the game last night, and just after in the stands with a mic as he was interviewed. Of all the pundits, Shearer was the most critical last night.
He basically went on a rant saying none of the players are doing what they do for their clubs, and that Southgate needs to change something drastically to get the best out of the squad. He's been saying they should have attacking pace down the left since pre-tournament training. Gordon had almost as good a season as saka statistically, all while playing for a much poorer team in Newcastle. He's a hassle and causes problems. I definitely don't think shearer is Gareths mate who doesn't open his mouth.
Odd comment, you clearly didn't watch the match
Alan in a dark room crying somewhere 😢😢😢
😂😂😂😂
Hahahaha this pod featuring red wine was hilarious. Loved having the managers chiming in here and there. It’s cheered me up after last night. Cheers boys!
Great vibes on this one!😂 Such a shame Shearer was travelling lol.
Gareth hasn't transformed English football's fortunes; it's the improvements in technical training at the grassroots level that have made the difference for England. Gareth is merely a negative influence, hindering our chances.
I think you should do just a tiny bit of research before commenting and being absolutely wrong.
Let’s be fair, between 2008-16 England were absolute dogshit. Not only were the players bad but the team culture stank. Say what you want about the better quality of players now but the England environment has been much better since Southgate came in.
love seeing them drinking wine "he's a fucking great human being.... I love you guys!"
Great video really enjoyed it I think the first time I’ve watched this podcast 👍 let’s hope we turn this tournament turns around
I love this euro podcast vibe everybody is so relaxed a glass of wine or 5 and 2 top managers sitting chatting behind the scenes top notch content guys plz keep them coming
What’s with the upwards inflection after every sentence?!
Great insight shared by Gary here, but the reality is that this theme has been happening for far too long. Southgate has had ample opportunity to progress the style of play and identity he wants, with the players available.
To be experimenting with TAA in a midfield role - for the sake of trying to fit him in - as the tournament starts is insanity. You could essentially take the style of Bayern Munich to fit around Kane to ensure chances are created and he finishes them.
Kane might as well not be in the team when that style of play is adopted. How do teams win tournaments? They go on the attack with the ability to put games to bed quickly scoring many goals and creating chances. We've gone 1-0 up against Denmark and tried to defend a lead.
The only counter to Gary here is that this has been happening for years. Southgate has had chances to bury teams with the players he has had. Not just in setting the team up, but also in match decisions. One of England's brightest prospects - Cole Palmer - is sat watching the likes of Bowen, Eze and Gallagher be introduced to change a game. That in itself is ridiculous.
Thankfully it'll be his last tournament and whoever comes in pretty much has a blueprint in how not to set the team up right.
Largely agree. I would say, though, that Bowen is sometimes what is needed. I rate Palmer but you can't slight Bowen in these moments because he's positive. Looks forward, gets forward, passes forward.
What I like about this podcast is the understanding. The understanding of football. It's far more positive than negative which is a breath of fresh air. They understand the difficulties of a footballer, coach and all other facets of the game. Also the humour is nice to see :)
Can David Moyes just get drunk and heckle every week? Love to see the former boss having fun! ⚒️
If I was Trent I’d retire. He is being made a scapegoat for this England team it’s shocking
Spot on, wasting his talent! Getting subbed at the 55 min mark, Southgate is a clown!
The digging out of Harry Kane is so poor.. He’s not pressing because that is obviously the instruction. Saka and Foden don’t press either when they do every week for club. Gareth is terrified of us going too gung ho. How about look at the real issues, no left side + no midfield balance.
Great episode, would love to see Thomas Frank come and do a full episode of the pod!
Best side distractions with thomas and david
Yous kept soutgate because he made everyone BECOME FRIENDS hahahahahaha
Or cos he’s had more success than basically any England manager ever. I criticise the guy a lot but let’s not be completely silly about it
@@Chigz10 who's won the same amount has ireland with apparently the best players in the world
Stop crying 😭 Just Sack Southgate in the middle of the tournament like Ivory Coast 🇨🇮
And England can win the Euro 2024.
Great to hear Gary get into the tactics. One of your best episodes yet lads.
Saying Harry Kane "has never been massively mobile" and saying he should conserve energy by not coming back, while also saying he needs to lead an energetic press makes no sense. You're demonstrating one example of exactly Southgate's problem right now: he has really good players, but it's hard to get them all working in one system given their skill sets. Keep in mind, for the press to work, you need not only forward and mids who can press, but also defenders who can keep the line and jump in when necessary. England's defenders, minus Walker, don't really do that. Additionally, Trent in midfield is a difficult ask, but it's especially hard when Bellingham is also coming all the way back to play where Trent is, making that midfield to forward line connection much weaker. Their positions either need to change or they need to be more disciplined, but most of England's guys are not particularly disciplined, not only for the national team but for their clubs, and it shows when Southgate has to try to make do.
It’s very odd how you are focusing so much on Kane yet still failing to call out the manager
But he has a point. If Kane stays high then defenders stay with him. It forces us to play higher.
@@MovieTrailerDatabaseKane's positioning comes from Southgate though?
@@MovieTrailerDatabaseKane needs runners either side of him that’s why Gordon needs to play on the left instead of foden
@@MovieTrailerDatabase In the press conference Southgate actually said that they don't play high press fully because of physicality related issues. I don't know what this exactly means but it seems to me it must be a reference to Harry Kane, as well as, possibly, others.
Did you watch the video?
The Spain v Italy game last night was a clear example of the differences in tactical nous between managers ... England and Spain are probably fairly equal in terms of attacking and defensive talent, yet Spain spent pretty much the whole game on the front foot, and it paid off. I can't see Southgate changing his mindset now, so the only way we'll make the best of this latest "golden generation" is by getting rid of Southgate.
Edit: as I was typing Gary made the same observation (other than the getting rid of Southgate one) 🙂
I don't think Italy currently have a match for the Spanish front line, mainly their wingers.
Italy is a former shadow of it's self. At this time! Bad stadiums, no money and not enough children playing. It will change. Every country goes through it. Spain is lethal because of it's African wingers. Without them they are just above nediocre. That's the reality. Those wingers bring everyone into the game. If they can't score against a shit Italian team.. they will get caught out eventually. Especially with that defense! They have faced no pressure yet.
@@tdmprofit3708 those wingers are born and bred Spanish.
@@tdmprofit3708 Nonsense. Last European cup neither of those wingers were in the team and they were also better than Italy. They also won the nations league without either of them. You have a lot growing up to do with your african comment.
The difference is Spain have Rodri controlling the game, Rice doesn’t do that for club (Jorginho does) and Bellingham doesn’t control the game either for club (Kroos does).
If England want to control the game then they should play a player who does that for their club
I'm a minute and six into the video and you got my like already lads. That fade to grey when Micah said the pasta was overcooked was a master stroke!! Gary's face!! 😂 Way more entertaining than the game itself, live your work guys!! 👍
Ahhh, man. That looks like a lot of fun!
When you have a guy who managed Middlesbrough and got them relegated, managed the same crop of players at U21s and won nothing, won only 2 league cups in his playing career and 1 what would have been Championship title....Who spent a lot of his playing career mid table...what do you expect tactically?? I mean you don't get your badges and it teaches everyone to be quality coaches obviously! You need a winning mentality and Southgate has never had that in his whole Footballing career!! He knows deep down that this is the best job he will ever have....ever!! He will come out of here and either be a decent Championship side manager or bottom of the Premier league. He is petrified of losing because ultimately avoiding that keeps his job in the eyes of the FA because it is all about stats and results, not about how we play and what we accomplish.... We all plaud him for coming in 4th in his first WC which was the easiest draws we have ever had at a tournament!!! Losing a final to a very mediocre Italian side who yes had gone unbeaten for a long time but also wasn't an attack minded side freescoring and we sat back and gave them time and space. We then lost to France in the Quarters in a game he made no tactical changes until it was too late. He also failed in the Nations league twice if I'm not mistaken? Lost to Hungary TWICE!!
Southgate got the job because of the news around Big Sam (another ridiculously stupid appointment by the FA....run by businessmen not football men!!!) He kept the job because of the Semi Final but I am pretty sure, most half decent managers could have done the same job...we plaud it onto Southgate but I am pretty sure most of it is down to the players and the culture these days!!!! I said when Big Sam took over then Southgate....we will win nothing with these in charge, 7 years later I am still right!!!
This mess for England has been created the same way Man Utd mess has, having people in control who aren't Football men!!!
Here's an idea, Gary. Why not get the BBC to ask Southgate your question about why he doesn't play a high press?! Do your bloody job and stop pretending you can't ask managers and players obvious questions rather than platitudes
Southgate has literally been asked this question this tournament. Not everything is a conspiracy. Jesus Christ.
What are the titles of the books on the table? Are they footballing books? If not, do you have any to recommend?
Thanks
love the passion from Gary
Is Southgate telling them to sit on the edge of our of box? Because why do we keep dropping off so much?
Even that poor formation from Serbia game still is used. What can you hope from someone like Southgate or perhaps Holland?
Because we can't keep the ball
Because he plays 2 holding midfielders, one of which isn't even a holding midfielder but clearly he is being told to do so (Trent), take him off and put Foden in centre with Bellingham then have Rice sit on his own in defence, put Gordon on the left.
@@jackgreenway4646 surely with 2 holding midfielders, that means your front 4 should stay FURTHER up the pitch, knowing they’ve got 2 guys covering for them?
@@jackgreenway4646it’s actually the opposite it’s because he plays no deep lying playmakers, put any of Rodri, Jorginho, Kroos etc next to Rice and I guarantee England keep possession.
Rice is a box to box midfielder and Arteta regularly picks Jorginho or Partey to get the best from Rice as an 8
Prancing about saying why this not happening etc say it as it is stop lying to the public all because matey matey with manager .Southgate is clueless
Them not expressing your opinion is not the same thing as lying.
@misterc5783 not just my opinion is it its literally the opinion of most of the fans except the happy clappers
@@JonathanFoster-mb9gw That’s not really relevant to my point though is it. In any way. Not sharing or expressing an opinion is not the same thing as lying. Even if every other person has the same opinion except you.
This is refreshing journalism. More of this please lads
Why is everyone overlooking Foden’s performance? When Denmark started to dictate the game he was the only one upfront showing that urgency and desire. When he came off England completely disappeared.
I dont know whÿ he took him off only one who looked like scoring again