He's honestly right though. If you only have a budget of 1k, wait until you have 10-15% more cash and buy the 7900xt for 20-40% more performance. The so called winners of this 'out of touch' challenge, were the most out of touch. With the guess of their system cost being the worst at over 20% out. And spending $400 on the motherboard/CPU combo and only taking a 7700xt is a disgrace.
@@williamlockwood9729 You are out of touch. That budget of 1k is fine and that extra often isn't as big of deal as it seems when you're shopping for parts. 20-40%... What? on the best day of your life with 7900xt you might get that 20% when comparing to the worst day of your life with a 7700xt, while your everyday normal experience is going to float around 5-15%. You get way more bang for you buck when you go with the lower tier GPUs, so with a tight budget that's what you do. Wait longer, might not be an option, saving up that much can already take a long time, you're out of touch. And since the GPU is very easy to upgrade, at worst you need a new power supply, which are not that expensive in general.
@@PolarTrance "RX 7900 XT outperforms RX 7700 XT by a substantial 30% based on our aggregate benchmark results." (you can find the same results everywhere, ranging from 20-40% on a per game basis.) On a budget of 1k not getting a 7800xt over a 7700xt is criminal.
Alex seems like one of the most likeable people ever. "I've had only bad ideas today, let's not stop." Would be so much fun to be around somebody with that kind of energy.
@@Shaky_pixel the humor aspect might have gone over my head. I was interested to see what the teams would come up with, and completely missed the humorous element.
The timer is good for forcing a snap decision. It needed to be implemented better though, because if you can't even get the list of options straight quickly enough then it's not a snap decision between what you are considering or available for what you have already chosen, and instead a random decision on whatever you can see and find quickly - which is less interesting random luck than forced quick decision.
Yeah, I feel if the point was to simulate a normal shopping experience they absolutely should have given the teams the time to pick out parts at their own pace without allowing research.
11:45 "I've had only bad ideas today, let's not stop." - Alex, having one of his worst ideas (which for a man who tried to cast his own heatsink says something)
I'd love to see an episode where the teams are not in a rush but can make thoughtful decisions. With the holidays coming, it would be great to see several price points (1k, 1.5k, 2k, and 2.5k) and then compare performance to see the price-to-performance sweet spot.
@@YourSweatyUncle I'm going to assume you meant well here, so just to clarify. Using someone's deadname is really not done when referring to someone who has transitioned. She's Emily, just Emily.
Alex: "Am I out of touch? No, and to prove it, here's my custom engraved glass side panel that I made on this industrial laser etching machine." :D love it
Hey Editor person that left the message at 13:06 - you have done a great job editing this video so no worries. In fact, you've done so well, I think they need to give you a raise and a bonus. Just tell them one of your "fans" said so. No really, you have done a great job editing, keep up the good work.
@@mrgallbladder I think the problem is that the joke on the video was better, since they just referred to themselves but didn't clarify anything afterwards
I used to think PC gaming was a super expensive hobby and I did my research and built the system for around $850 and realized that I now had a better computer than 80% of people on steam. If you're smart you can build a fantastic computer for a fraction of a price you'd expect
Well during the pandemic and like 2020-2023ish it was really expensive to get most GPUs and other PC parts were just over priced and hard to get which screwed the used market also. Now you can literally build an amazing system for like $800-1200 or cheaper if you get used parts. Plus like so many gaming laptops regularly have like $650 discounts so if you don’t have a monitor or need mobility you can get a great gaming laptop for like $500-1000 when the sales are on.
@@rabbidpig3480 though I will have to say that really almost every Hobby is quite expensive if you buy the Equipment needed to seriously pursue it. At least for Sports that is mostly true (if you wanna consider e-sports as such). From the top of my Head the cheapest Hobby i could thing of is something like Crocheting, while the most accessible Sport is probably Football.
I always buy the 70 or 80 series from the last generation used. Good enough performance for 1/3 the price. Bought a 1080ti in 2019 for $430 and used it for 3 years. Sold for $250 and got a 3070 for $350. Maybe next year I’ll upgrade to a 4070ti for around $400.
Loved this video. Awesome concept. I loved how fast paced this video felt despite its length. Was super excited to watch this after hearing about it on WAN
I'd like to see a true $1,000 PC where the parts weren't grabbed at random because time was running out, but where they were picked based on price to performance. Then see which PC/Parts combo performs the best.
@@TheStatisticalPizza yeah true, but prices and parts change, so I was kind of hoping to see how good of a $1,000 PC they could build, and what parts that would consist of. Still a fun video though.
This type of video is very fun to watch, a little bit less prepared, but it feels more like being with friends and have fun. Please make other videos like this one. thank you
To be fair, Alex has worked with computers a lot longer than Elijah has (technically). Plus, Alex is meant to be super experienced with all the tools in the workshop. So... Ye. I would throw him under the bus too. He's meant to be the responsible one. :P
"Guys, you are out of touch and need to work it out in some more realistic scenario" The more realistic scenario for LTT: "let's picke one of dozens CPUs, GPUS and other expensive things just lying around here!"
I really like these kinds of challenges, BUT why do all of them (scrapyard wars, pc case out of cardboard, etc..) have such strict time requirements? Can you please, at least once allow teams to take their time? Because many times in the past, great ideas were dragged down by an arbitrarily small time window.
Given enough time and enough options, everyone would just build more or less the same PC. Having a time limit and limited options creates these situations where they end up picking weird stuff and that creates content for the video.
Because they don't want to waste time on videos. They are cranking out tons of videos so they need to cut cost on each. LTT is an assembly line production of videos at this point, don't expect too much nuance or quality from each.
i feel like this episode was on par with those rainy day activities in school as a kid. you know running under that giant multicolored tarp, or dodgeball lol. @22:40 is that that basketball scene from "Bedazzled"? hahaha
To be fair I don't think any one ever questioned if Alex was out of touch, he knows a lot about what he wants and does not hide he does not care about whatever he is not. He is in his own world and he owns that fact imo.
That was entertaining and well paced. I'd enjoy more competitions like this. I agree with some of the other comments, the video was introduced as a "test our knowledge" concept, but the time limits prevented them from really using their knowledge.
"We are doing a price challenge to see how out of touch we are." Alex - "I'm gona laser etch this glass panel with this industrial machine... has nothing to do with the challenge and noone would have one, but here we go..." this is after picking a 7900XT for $500 apparently...
All while Elijah, is talking about how the computer isn’t booting and when it finally processes for Alex, he’s just like “oh, what?” Like he wasn’t paying attention AT ALL lol
Fitting that the team with "arson" in their name turned in a broken PC with a shartered side panel. Team DDR420 was a dark horse from the start with their reasonable expectations and budget combined with their calm almost stoned approach.
This has been, by no small margin, my favorite video from LTT in a while. Lots of enjoyable chaotic energy across the board and the enjoyment factor was waaaay up. Love the variety of people involved and can't wait to see more content like this!
As an experienced business person I cant avoid thinking about the nightmare that must be running a warehouse with so many funky dynamics going on. Love the chaotic content!!
This is a really good way of giving proper consumer advice. I think you should elaborate this idea and have a yearly round-up of the highest value products and smart pc-builds.
More like this. Way more. This is a good way to both keep the staff up to snuff on pricing but also show how current their knowledge is. I would make sure parts are available for checkout for builds before doing it again.
13:46, fun fact, when I built my first gaming computer I let the glass side panel slide through my fingers and hit the table, shattering the glass. I made the same face, LOL
Dam full video with only a Linus cameo and I did not notice. Nice work great video, and amazing hosting from David. PS: We need a LMG engineering channel.
Fully agree on the engineering channel. LTT has some talented engineers and machinists, the concept sounds interesting, and who knows, might be educational too.
Would love to see each of them build a PC that they would personally use under a given budget. It sure would give us a look to how they choose the parts, what they choose and why they choose that one.
Plus, certain specific criteria's like - only buying new parts - the budget should be inclusive of taxes - leaving some room in the budget for adjustment, like inflation of price or reduction in price of high grade parts to allow them to be used instead.
0:40 All manufacturers of power banks should be legally obliged to state the battery capacity in watt hours. The specification in milliamp hours says nothing about the actual capacity, as it completely disregards the voltage. For example, Apple was criticized for its measly 1460 mAh power bank, but almost everyone ignored the fact that it has a voltage of 7.62 V instead of the usual 3.7 V. If you convert that, it has 11.1 Wh, which is equivalent to a 3000 mAh capacity for a 3.7V power bank
That has been my pet peeve for a long time. However, it did help me one time. For some student project, we had to move a self made vehicle from Europe to America. The army was so nice to do ship most of the vehicle, but refused the batteries. (i guess paperwork was a hassle for them, the mAh wasn't that high, but the voltage...) However, commercial flights don't care about voltage, so they were shipped with the students. Sure, each battery was the maximum personal budget of "capacity" per passenger, but nobody seemed to notice it was 8x the normal voltage....
@@WIckedOmenOfThunder as far as i know, you can bring two batteries with a maximum of 100Wh each on a plane. That is also why apparently no laptop manufacturer puts more than 100Wh in a laptop.
I agree and the same with phones. That is why I think they do it because a phone will be saying 5000mah and then you see a power bank with 10000mah it will roughly charge your phone twice. Wh just makes more sense but everyone wouldn't need to implement it and that's likely why they haven't. Most people understand the wh aswell because our electricity and gas is delivered in kWh as well as using kw for car power in some countries. It's strange that in most cases we use wh for consumption but ah for capacity unless it's big big batteries then we tend to use wh again. The whole thing is a bit of a mess.
They are indeed a little bit out of touch :P And what’s even crazier is their *predictions* were also over budget, so they KNEW they weren’t picking the right parts. That’s what’s really confusing about this whole video.
@@coleG112 to be completely fair it's not exactly like they had much time to pick their parts, i doubt either of us would have been able to do much better in that time
Linus's cutting room comments on WAN show about how there were "two videos" in this video and picking the personality driven version were on point. Sincerely, someone who watches GN's long form videos.
well i think that LTT thrives off some shorter higher view videos that pull in a larger audience ofc WAN show will be the outlier for long content, but it's a livestream LTT's whole model is to get new eyes on their backlog of content by making new interesting content that can hit the homepage, sure it is a lil adhd minded but so is 90% of the audience on yt
@@Abdullx200 I don’t remember who specifically said it but after Doakes was killed they claimed him as the bay harbor butcher and someone said I still can’t believe doakes was the bay harbor butcher
@@BryanLu0 Megapro, I do personally like the LTT driver better but Megapro has great drivers in it's own right and they are who Linus and co partnered with when designing their driver.
its the fact nvidia is way over priced, 3060ti is 50 dollars cheaper then a 7700xt... and the 7700xt has about a 30% performance boost 50 dollars for a 30% better gpu says a lot
NVIDIA definitely shines when it comes to specialized compute loads like RTX and AI workloads, but for the everyday gamer looking for value AMD is really unbeatable. Team Red really comes into its own if you game on Linux and the simplicity of kernel level drivers is awesome.
@@GGG_gamingAnd there're still so many people that went with 4060 over 3060ti on forums. At least 4 of my friend went with a 4060. They justified it with "I don't want last-gen", ~~" 56kB is enough"~~ (Sorry, that's Bill Gates) "8GB is enough" and "But I want DLSS 3.5" All of which I disagree with: 1) 4060 is basically the same chip as 3060, but made cheaper to produce; 2) It's not enough even today, and 3060 had more VRAM; 3) DLSS 3.5 is on 3060, DLFG is the only missing feature and it isn't worth it on a 4060 over massively increased response time and artifacts.
Because raw price/performance in rasterization is better with AMD GPUs period. If you want AI, ray tracing, DLSS, or whatever else you'd go Nvidia. If you purely want FPS out of games AMD is the king.
I always like seeing a video that includes the rest of the team and the writers. And most picks of all 3 teams are within the price margin of my country so their builds are realistic (aside from the Thermaltake PSUs since I have yet to see them in stock here. Their cases though are pretty common here.) More of these vids please~!
12:26 why they talking like an aussie narrator on national geographic whispering about a tiger in the distance about to pounce on its prey. "As you can see here we have the rgb fans spinning up indicating the PC has awoken..." *proceeds to stick finger into fan* lol.
Really an amazing fun video that had almost the ENTIRE writing staff. Really loved it and very amazingly shows how far LTT has come in terms of camera ready presenters for all the channels considering there was almost no Linus in this video. Props to everyone!!!!!!
$1000 is a great budget for a solid PC, as long as you have the keyboard/mouse and monitor and such, and from there you can just upgrade piece by piece to not make it such a big expense which makes a gaming PC very manageable on a budget, especially when consoles cost close to a $1000 now and you still need to pay all the extra fees and none of it will carry over to the next one.
I'd second this. My first build was £960 GBP with cheap peripherals. Upgraded bit by bit as my company grew, and it was a slow but steady way to build a great workstation. Did this during the GPU shortage too. Now that's over, the approach is even easier.
Even if you don't have the furniture and peripherals, you can easily find a "good enough" mouse, keyboard and monitor almost for free. Desks and chairs you can literally get for free. Sure, it won't be a low latency wireless mouse with a 10,000 DPI sensor or a mechanical RGB keyboard and a 1440P OLED monitor... But it'll get the job done until you can get something decent after saving for a bit.
I disagree. I think a $1000 PC budget isn't great for most people. If your budget is a strict $1000, your best option is to wait a little while and bring your budget up to $1200-1300. $1000 you can get a pretty good build, but you'll be cutting corners and making little compromises while still not having a great GPU. At $1200, you can cut corners and make little compromises but put in a nice beefy GPU.
@@Tyler-z8r I'd say a $1000 is fine if you shop around for good deals, maybe catch something on a sale. Also depends a bit on where you are, I think in the US that might get you a bit more than it does in the EU, but a $1000 is workable.
The irony of this video is if they weren't out of touch they'd know that just knowing the price of things proves nothing and only demonstrates the ability to recall past information. Congrats. You don't have amnesia.
I've thought about something. You guys have an extreme influence on the gaming/pc building community. And now also a ton of LABS and documented performance of tech. You are in a really powerful position to launch a website, that would give statistics of how strong each part is etc. Unlike other websites, you'll have better data and precision.
They do actually have a website for the labs where they've published a few articles with all the stats. Iirc from a wan show, they're working on setting up processes to test and review much larger sample sizes, so it's only up from here.
Great concept and I love it. The only thing I would think will make it better is not to do it on your studio because of parts availability, but it will be better in a store where it will be more comparable to what people may find
In a store (at least a decently big one) they'd probably have had an easier time. As it stands, often as not the midrange parts they actually wanted were checked out and not available.
this is one of the greatest idea's for a video, i would LOVE more like this, so dang good, PLEASE MR LINUS MAN , give us more team challenge vids like this
I was thinking from the beginning that a 1% penalty per $10 over was not very harsh and that might play into it if someone just decides to blow the budget and get an overpowered GPU. Alex almost pulled it off.
Instead of 45s to find something, it should have been like five minutes for PC parts, five minutes for peripherals? Or even make it more game show-like, each team has to answer a plethora of tech questions/get closest to the part's real price without ANY research, etc,. and that awards points that correlate to time you get to pick? That would probably be better for two teams. A wide collection of gaming, pop culture, technical, and "nerd" questions would keep it fun imo too and I imagine the cost would be cheaper (one camera operator and two stationary cameras, you get like 10m of content off of just that) Could riff off of classic shows like Family Feud, Jeopardy, Press Your Luck, etc,. too. Make it another series where we get different teams of like three people and a bracket which pushes specific builds ("best micro-atx case build", "best amd build", "single color build", "pre-2000s build", etc.) Plus I feel this could easily use sponsored content like AMD, Intel, whatever. I wonder if the sponsors would even be cool with an AMD vs INTEL final battle between the top two teams? Idk, but the 45s timer seemed too small imo.
I don't know whether or not I should be surprised that a huge operation like LMG doesn't have one of those tiny PSU testers that you just plug the 24 and 8-pin connectors into. I know obviously they have the huge, industrial testers, but just a small tester from a field kit is an odd omission that could have easily helped Alex and Elijah during POST-testing.
Still at 00:17, but I personally think the videos are out of touch (because that's what the views and TH-cam algorithm wants), LTT and the team are not out of touch.
Talks about not being out of touch, picks up a top of the line GPU and goes to laser etch on a cabinet side panel, truly Alex moment.
To be fair he did say they knew they'd screwed up and gone over budget.
He's honestly right though. If you only have a budget of 1k, wait until you have 10-15% more cash and buy the 7900xt for 20-40% more performance.
The so called winners of this 'out of touch' challenge, were the most out of touch. With the guess of their system cost being the worst at over 20% out.
And spending $400 on the motherboard/CPU combo and only taking a 7700xt is a disgrace.
@@williamlockwood9729 You are out of touch. That budget of 1k is fine and that extra often isn't as big of deal as it seems when you're shopping for parts. 20-40%... What? on the best day of your life with 7900xt you might get that 20% when comparing to the worst day of your life with a 7700xt, while your everyday normal experience is going to float around 5-15%. You get way more bang for you buck when you go with the lower tier GPUs, so with a tight budget that's what you do. Wait longer, might not be an option, saving up that much can already take a long time, you're out of touch. And since the GPU is very easy to upgrade, at worst you need a new power supply, which are not that expensive in general.
@@PolarTrance
"RX 7900 XT outperforms RX 7700 XT by a substantial 30% based on our aggregate benchmark results." (you can find the same results everywhere, ranging from 20-40% on a per game basis.)
On a budget of 1k not getting a 7800xt over a 7700xt is criminal.
@@PolarTrance and you might want a faster CPU for that new GPU
Bro really sat down at his laser etching machine to prove he's not out of touch. Never change, Alex
Actually laughed. Well done.
Alex seems like one of the most likeable people ever. "I've had only bad ideas today, let's not stop."
Would be so much fun to be around somebody with that kind of energy.
Said the First Mate of the Titanic ...
@@jimjohnston2013 Took me a second to realize what you were referring to lol...that's my marching band shako from...way too long ago in college.
Really cool concept, but the 45 sec timer just feels like an unnecessary gimmick. Without the internet seems like enough of a handicap.
@@austinjenkins1798 completely agree, would have loved them to have maybe half an hour and have them all carry a camera around sorta thing
agreed on the competition front but the timer made it funnier imo, itwouldve been good without the timer too tho
@@Shaky_pixel the humor aspect might have gone over my head. I was interested to see what the teams would come up with, and completely missed the humorous element.
The timer is good for forcing a snap decision. It needed to be implemented better though, because if you can't even get the list of options straight quickly enough then it's not a snap decision between what you are considering or available for what you have already chosen, and instead a random decision on whatever you can see and find quickly - which is less interesting random luck than forced quick decision.
Yeah, I feel if the point was to simulate a normal shopping experience they absolutely should have given the teams the time to pick out parts at their own pace without allowing research.
11:45 "I've had only bad ideas today, let's not stop." - Alex, having one of his worst ideas (which for a man who tried to cast his own heatsink says something)
I knew going in that Alex would be the most out of touch, no question.
11:45 would be a better timestamp
@@leonro Fixed!
Even the camera blinks when he said that XD
@@Metal_Maxine Alex my brother
I'd love to see an episode where the teams are not in a rush but can make thoughtful decisions. With the holidays coming, it would be great to see several price points (1k, 1.5k, 2k, and 2.5k) and then compare performance to see the price-to-performance sweet spot.
Thats the budget groups I'd like to see too. I already have a pc and want to understand where a budget group can get me.
Price to performance would probably be a Ryzen 7600 overclocked CPU and a 4070 super and 32GB ram 6000mhz cl30 (or a cl36 overclocked)
Having David transfer from camera op to writing was a big W. Love his style and energy!
definitely agree, he's great
I miss Anthony (Emily)
@@YourSweatyUncle just emily is probably fine
Agreed
@@YourSweatyUncle I'm going to assume you meant well here, so just to clarify. Using someone's deadname is really not done when referring to someone who has transitioned. She's Emily, just Emily.
"Team Literal Arson" Ended up being a VERY spot on name, which I'm sure came as a surprise to NO ONE.
They were the most fun lol.
@@termiterasin yes , they were the most entertaining duo after all
I mean apart from the entire Arson thing sure 😂
I expected nothing less with Alex and Elijah on the same Team 😂 These two bring the same Chaos as Alex and jake together back in the day 😂
@@WinWindowS.K.Julian I'm not familar with Elijah, is there history there? lol
Alex: "Am I out of touch? No, and to prove it, here's my custom engraved glass side panel that I made on this industrial laser etching machine." :D love it
Scrapyard wars without the scrapyard.
LMG Inventory Wars
have you seen there warehouse. That was a scrapyard!
@@RoboSkyrat It's like Storage Wars but with computers. YuuuuUUUUP!
war
@@harwil32 without reason
The editing on this video is fantastic. Weaving the conversation of all three teams so smoothly
If you can afford it , WHY NOT... for me I'll just build a cheaper version 😅, just need my graphic card and get Windows/Office, any ideas?
But do you need it for work or play? graphic: RADEON, and BNH Software for the rest. let me know if it works!
Thank you dear, I was wondering as well! 😘
If you arent playing games or using graphic heavy software just go with a 1660 ti. Cheap and effective
@@nocoverchargee Bot.
Hey Editor person that left the message at 13:06 - you have done a great job editing this video so no worries. In fact, you've done so well, I think they need to give you a raise and a bonus. Just tell them one of your "fans" said so. No really, you have done a great job editing, keep up the good work.
And it reminded me to like it. So good job !
@@kevinfleischer2049 I liked and subscribed because of the editing on this video
really hope the editor sees this comment
Completely agree. FanTASTIC edit.
Hmmm... I think I might know who the editor is
Gotta give a 110%. Just like our competition spent a 110% of their budget.
they are the one who spent 110%, the rest were 120-125% of the budget
In my experience only going over budget 10% is really good.
It's a joke, people. Stop being so literal. What, you've never had a normal conversation before in which figure of speech is used?
@@mrgallbladder I think the problem is that the joke on the video was better, since they just referred to themselves but didn't clarify anything afterwards
12:31
That whispered "Dumb ass" was perfection 🤣🤣
I used to think PC gaming was a super expensive hobby and I did my research and built the system for around $850 and realized that I now had a better computer than 80% of people on steam. If you're smart you can build a fantastic computer for a fraction of a price you'd expect
Well during the pandemic and like 2020-2023ish it was really expensive to get most GPUs and other PC parts were just over priced and hard to get which screwed the used market also. Now you can literally build an amazing system for like $800-1200 or cheaper if you get used parts. Plus like so many gaming laptops regularly have like $650 discounts so if you don’t have a monitor or need mobility you can get a great gaming laptop for like $500-1000 when the sales are on.
@@Ludovianco it’s still definitely an expensive hobby. But yeah you can definitely save money and still build a great pc
@rabbidpig3480 no it's not an expensive hobby. I had hobbies that costed 15k a year. Pc's are alot cheaper
@@rabbidpig3480 though I will have to say that really almost every Hobby is quite expensive if you buy the Equipment needed to seriously pursue it. At least for Sports that is mostly true (if you wanna consider e-sports as such). From the top of my Head the cheapest Hobby i could thing of is something like Crocheting, while the most accessible Sport is probably Football.
I always buy the 70 or 80 series from the last generation used. Good enough performance for 1/3 the price.
Bought a 1080ti in 2019 for $430 and used it for 3 years. Sold for $250 and got a 3070 for $350. Maybe next year I’ll upgrade to a 4070ti for around $400.
God I love these random challenges or really any video with multiple hosts on screen at the same time, so much energy
Loved this video. Awesome concept. I loved how fast paced this video felt despite its length. Was super excited to watch this after hearing about it on WAN
I'd like to see a true $1,000 PC where the parts weren't grabbed at random because time was running out, but where they were picked based on price to performance. Then see which PC/Parts combo performs the best.
Yeah that really brought the video down, but they've done a bunch of budget build type of videos already so maybe that's why.
@@TheStatisticalPizza yeah true, but prices and parts change, so I was kind of hoping to see how good of a $1,000 PC they could build, and what parts that would consist of. Still a fun video though.
Got to good store site add to cart---> see price=emty cart...
Yes, because this video was a quick compation. You wouldn't buy a crap power supply just to get through a competition.
that's just 7600 and 7700xt or something
This type of video is very fun to watch, a little bit less prepared, but it feels more like being with friends and have fun.
Please make other videos like this one.
thank you
yeah the stress makes it fun
yeah love this scrapyard vibe, good sunday watch
haha true its way better than doing crappy full scripted content
Honestly I love David, he’s always so positive lol seems like a super chill guy
I'm only liking and commenting because the editor (who apparently has worked there for almost 3 years now) asked me to at 13:06.
the editor did not ask you to comment tho
@@caseyzx they didn't need to. I did that part of my own free will.
@@caseyzxdo you own a general store
Same
Sameeee
Got to love how, at every step, Elija's throwing Alex under the bus.
Alex climbed up under that bus by his damn self. Elijah vindicated in the edit.
Absolutely deserved
Alex doesn’t need any help.
I wanted Alex to win. He's my favorite along with Elijah in LTT 😢
To be fair, Alex has worked with computers a lot longer than Elijah has (technically). Plus, Alex is meant to be super experienced with all the tools in the workshop. So... Ye. I would throw him under the bus too. He's meant to be the responsible one. :P
"Guys, you are out of touch and need to work it out in some more realistic scenario"
The more realistic scenario for LTT: "let's picke one of dozens CPUs, GPUS and other expensive things just lying around here!"
I really like these kinds of challenges, BUT why do all of them (scrapyard wars, pc case out of cardboard, etc..) have such strict time requirements? Can you please, at least once allow teams to take their time? Because many times in the past, great ideas were dragged down by an arbitrarily small time window.
Bc fast pace is trendy (or the video would be something like an hour)
Given enough time and enough options, everyone would just build more or less the same PC. Having a time limit and limited options creates these situations where they end up picking weird stuff and that creates content for the video.
It's for the tik tom generation my dude, people that would die if they tried watching a long form video
Because they don't want to waste time on videos. They are cranking out tons of videos so they need to cut cost on each. LTT is an assembly line production of videos at this point, don't expect too much nuance or quality from each.
8 people in the team + 8 people on cameras + video editing of at least 16 sources. every minute of video costs ltt o lot in such a format^^
i feel like this episode was on par with those rainy day activities in school as a kid. you know running under that giant multicolored tarp, or dodgeball lol. @22:40 is that that basketball scene from "Bedazzled"? hahaha
@@cameroncorrosive925 😂😂😂 all that was missing was the excessive sweating
This was awesome, I'm really happy to see more of the talent on screen at one time. I really enjoyed this video
It's nice to see everyone wearing helmets to make Elijah feel normal
But he really should have been wearing it the whole episode!! 👏👏🪖🪖👷♂️👷♂️👷♂️
Elijah is a soldier for computers. o7
the fact that Alex said "really cheap, like 500 bucks" for a gpu precisely answers the video's title question.
They're not going back down. The shareholders would literally have the execs of AMD/Nvidia drawn and quartered if they even tried.
@@ParagonFury i know? That's not what I'm talking about
To be fair I don't think any one ever questioned if Alex was out of touch, he knows a lot about what he wants and does not hide he does not care about whatever he is not. He is in his own world and he owns that fact imo.
That was entertaining and well paced. I'd enjoy more competitions like this.
I agree with some of the other comments, the video was introduced as a "test our knowledge" concept, but the time limits prevented them from really using their knowledge.
"We are doing a price challenge to see how out of touch we are." Alex - "I'm gona laser etch this glass panel with this industrial machine... has nothing to do with the challenge and noone would have one, but here we go..." this is after picking a 7900XT for $500 apparently...
The GPU price guessing was crazy lmao. A 7900XT for 500? A 7700XT for 550???
@commander3494 I know right. It was all over the place lol.
All while Elijah, is talking about how the computer isn’t booting and when it finally processes for Alex, he’s just like “oh, what?” Like he wasn’t paying attention AT ALL lol
@SciFiBrony yea it was kinda funny how absent he was to it all, like "this is what I wana do, so I'm gona ignore everything else."
They were only 7% off the actual value at the end. Thats not out of touch, thats a small sale
Fitting that the team with "arson" in their name turned in a broken PC with a shartered side panel.
Team DDR420 was a dark horse from the start with their reasonable expectations and budget combined with their calm almost stoned approach.
almost stoned.. right.
David is really hitting it out of the park with his transition to writer! I love his videos.
22:20 Alex being real quiet about whether damaged glass should result in point deductions...
This has been, by no small margin, my favorite video from LTT in a while. Lots of enjoyable chaotic energy across the board and the enjoyment factor was waaaay up. Love the variety of people involved and can't wait to see more content like this!
Same here. I'd love to see a redo in 2 or so months with the same teams to see if they've learned anything.
11:12 you know what else is massive LOW TAPER FADEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
As an experienced business person I cant avoid thinking about the nightmare that must be running a warehouse with so many funky dynamics going on. Love the chaotic content!!
I LOVE the competition style of videos! It’s a breath of fresh air compared to the “be mad at everything” meta that buzzes all over TH-cam!
I liked the overall pace of the vid and attitude of all participants. Cool Video!
Alex and Elijah are such a good duo. Very funny, love the energy and vibe
Feels like a great concept you could do at a Micro Center as a sponsored bit. Access to mostly everything on the market and build stations.
I am pretty sure JayzTwoCents did a challenge very similar to this at a microcenter recently-ish.
They have to hide the price and not allowed to use the internet
This is a really good way of giving proper consumer advice. I think you should elaborate this idea and have a yearly round-up of the highest value products and smart pc-builds.
11:47 why did the camera blink 💀
Maybe someone can correct me on this but I think it's an ND filter being automatically applied as they entered the bright outdoor setting.
Yeah, internal nd most likely, to darken the image
ND filter swap as they were walking from an interior space into bright sunlight.
Lens got dry?
ND filter being applied
More like this. Way more. This is a good way to both keep the staff up to snuff on pricing but also show how current their knowledge is.
I would make sure parts are available for checkout for builds before doing it again.
First video I've watched in years and I loved it. What a good group
This was an amazing video, love how well all of their personalities played off one another. Need more videos with more than 1-2 personalities 🙃
23:37 maybe there should be a channel for such things...
Like, some place where super fun things can be put on a channel? A channel for super fun things?
@@MrScorpianwarrior a channel made specifically for posting there things that are super fun. A super fun channel.
@@rzyr Yeah, but what could this hypothetical supper fun channel be called?
@@lefear2 Could call it "channel extra entertaining"
Stop trying to bring back Super Fun.
One of the best LTT videos in a while. Fantastic concept, fantastically executed, fantastically edited - just A+ all around.
13:46, fun fact, when I built my first gaming computer I let the glass side panel slide through my fingers and hit the table, shattering the glass. I made the same face, LOL
Dam full video with only a Linus cameo and I did not notice. Nice work great video, and amazing hosting from David.
PS: We need a LMG engineering channel.
Yeah I was amazed I didn't realize till the end linus wasn't really a significant part of the video and it made no impact on how I enjoyed it.
Fully agree on the engineering channel. LTT has some talented engineers and machinists, the concept sounds interesting, and who knows, might be educational too.
This was tons of fun!!! I would love to see more videos like this in the future 🔥🔥🔥
You’re out of touch
I’m out of time
But I’m outta my head when you’re not around
WOOOAH
Gonna listen to the song thank you very much
Reaching out for something to hold, but Linus drops it like it's cold
hi
not thursday yet
Would love to see each of them build a PC that they would personally use under a given budget. It sure would give us a look to how they choose the parts, what they choose and why they choose that one.
Plus, certain specific criteria's like
- only buying new parts
- the budget should be inclusive of taxes
- leaving some room in the budget for adjustment, like inflation of price or reduction in price of high grade parts to allow them to be used instead.
This was such a fun concept. It was great to see that it looked like everyone was having a good time. I had a smile on my face watching this.
0:40 All manufacturers of power banks should be legally obliged to state the battery capacity in watt hours.
The specification in milliamp hours says nothing about the actual capacity, as it completely disregards the voltage. For example, Apple was criticized for its measly 1460 mAh power bank, but almost everyone ignored the fact that it has a voltage of 7.62 V instead of the usual 3.7 V. If you convert that, it has 11.1 Wh, which is equivalent to a 3000 mAh capacity for a 3.7V power bank
And also those scummy ones that advertise 10k mAh power but really only have 2400 mAh underneath the plastic.
@@thatprettyparrot or even worse, those with integrated solar cells. Why should I put a lithium-ion battery in direct sunlight?
That has been my pet peeve for a long time. However, it did help me one time.
For some student project, we had to move a self made vehicle from Europe to America. The army was so nice to do ship most of the vehicle, but refused the batteries. (i guess paperwork was a hassle for them, the mAh wasn't that high, but the voltage...)
However, commercial flights don't care about voltage, so they were shipped with the students. Sure, each battery was the maximum personal budget of "capacity" per passenger, but nobody seemed to notice it was 8x the normal voltage....
@@WIckedOmenOfThunder as far as i know, you can bring two batteries with a maximum of 100Wh each on a plane. That is also why apparently no laptop manufacturer puts more than 100Wh in a laptop.
I agree and the same with phones. That is why I think they do it because a phone will be saying 5000mah and then you see a power bank with 10000mah it will roughly charge your phone twice. Wh just makes more sense but everyone wouldn't need to implement it and that's likely why they haven't. Most people understand the wh aswell because our electricity and gas is delivered in kWh as well as using kw for car power in some countries. It's strange that in most cases we use wh for consumption but ah for capacity unless it's big big batteries then we tend to use wh again. The whole thing is a bit of a mess.
so after all that, no one, not a single team got under the $1000 budget.
They are indeed a little bit out of touch :P And what’s even crazier is their *predictions* were also over budget, so they KNEW they weren’t picking the right parts. That’s what’s really confusing about this whole video.
@@coleG112 to be completely fair it's not exactly like they had much time to pick their parts, i doubt either of us would have been able to do much better in that time
We always see pc ASSEMBLY. Never dissassembly. Video idea: the person who takes all of these apart 🤣
Linus's cutting room comments on WAN show about how there were "two videos" in this video and picking the personality driven version were on point.
Sincerely, someone who watches GN's long form videos.
well i think that LTT thrives off some shorter higher view videos that pull in a larger audience
ofc WAN show will be the outlier for long content, but it's a livestream
LTT's whole model is to get new eyes on their backlog of content by making new interesting content that can hit the homepage, sure it is a lil adhd minded but so is 90% of the audience on yt
I still can't believe Linus Sebastion was the Bay Harbor Butcher...
Not the dexter refrence 😂
i would love to see an ai made video of linus as dexter
Wait I missed the reference, where was it said?
@@Abdullx200 I don’t remember who specifically said it but after Doakes was killed they claimed him as the bay harbor butcher and someone said I still can’t believe doakes was the bay harbor butcher
It was Debra who said it.
this is an awesome shake down of the warehouse's organization and everyone's knowledge of its layout. absolutely lit!
Actually a really good idea for a video, disappointed that you separated the judging part of it onto floatplane, but you do you
Paywalled judging. $70USD screwdriver. Definitely not out of touch.
Yeah, they paywalled Linus on this one for some reason. What gives?
there wasnt any judging? it was all benchmarks.
@@maxmike181Where you getting your screwdrivers with bit storage?
@@BryanLu0 Megapro, I do personally like the LTT driver better but Megapro has great drivers in it's own right and they are who Linus and co partnered with when designing their driver.
4:39 lol EVERYONE went amd gpu, how overpriced or not good value is nvidia no one even tried
its the fact nvidia is way over priced, 3060ti is 50 dollars cheaper then a 7700xt... and the 7700xt has about a 30% performance boost
50 dollars for a 30% better gpu says a lot
NVIDIA definitely shines when it comes to specialized compute loads like RTX and AI workloads, but for the everyday gamer looking for value AMD is really unbeatable. Team Red really comes into its own if you game on Linux and the simplicity of kernel level drivers is awesome.
@@GGG_gamingAnd there're still so many people that went with 4060 over 3060ti on forums.
At least 4 of my friend went with a 4060. They justified it with "I don't want last-gen", ~~" 56kB is enough"~~ (Sorry, that's Bill Gates) "8GB is enough" and "But I want DLSS 3.5"
All of which I disagree with: 1) 4060 is basically the same chip as 3060, but made cheaper to produce; 2) It's not enough even today, and 3060 had more VRAM; 3) DLSS 3.5 is on 3060, DLFG is the only missing feature and it isn't worth it on a 4060 over massively increased response time and artifacts.
@@aebisdecunter i bought my 3060ti for like 200 dollars... 2 years before 40 series... and i knew nvidia is over priced
Because raw price/performance in rasterization is better with AMD GPUs period. If you want AI, ray tracing, DLSS, or whatever else you'd go Nvidia.
If you purely want FPS out of games AMD is the king.
I always like seeing a video that includes the rest of the team and the writers. And most picks of all 3 teams are within the price margin of my country so their builds are realistic (aside from the Thermaltake PSUs since I have yet to see them in stock here. Their cases though are pretty common here.) More of these vids please~!
12:26 why they talking like an aussie narrator on national geographic whispering about a tiger in the distance about to pounce on its prey. "As you can see here we have the rgb fans spinning up indicating the PC has awoken..." *proceeds to stick finger into fan* lol.
Alex: **any minor inconvenience**
Also Alex: Let's head to the lab!
Really an amazing fun video that had almost the ENTIRE writing staff. Really loved it and very amazingly shows how far LTT has come in terms of camera ready presenters for all the channels considering there was almost no Linus in this video. Props to everyone!!!!!!
Why do they keep bleeping out the way Elijah pronounces "Juhor"?
Am I missing something?
yes
Joo
When he says it, it sounds a lot like he's saying the name of the ethnic group from Israel and the name of the wolrd's oldest profession
I think it's that "ju" sounds like "you", and the rest of it sounds like...
I have no idea of the real pronunciation of "Juhor" but I'd either pronounce it like "jew-er" or "you-er".
This is gold, need to make more of these speed builds
Just commenting to say this is one of the better videos I have seen on this channel. Definitely make more!
$1000 is a great budget for a solid PC, as long as you have the keyboard/mouse and monitor and such, and from there you can just upgrade piece by piece to not make it such a big expense which makes a gaming PC very manageable on a budget, especially when consoles cost close to a $1000 now and you still need to pay all the extra fees and none of it will carry over to the next one.
I'd second this. My first build was £960 GBP with cheap peripherals. Upgraded bit by bit as my company grew, and it was a slow but steady way to build a great workstation.
Did this during the GPU shortage too. Now that's over, the approach is even easier.
Even if you don't have the furniture and peripherals, you can easily find a "good enough" mouse, keyboard and monitor almost for free. Desks and chairs you can literally get for free. Sure, it won't be a low latency wireless mouse with a 10,000 DPI sensor or a mechanical RGB keyboard and a 1440P OLED monitor... But it'll get the job done until you can get something decent after saving for a bit.
I disagree. I think a $1000 PC budget isn't great for most people. If your budget is a strict $1000, your best option is to wait a little while and bring your budget up to $1200-1300.
$1000 you can get a pretty good build, but you'll be cutting corners and making little compromises while still not having a great GPU.
At $1200, you can cut corners and make little compromises but put in a nice beefy GPU.
@@Tyler-z8r I'd say a $1000 is fine if you shop around for good deals, maybe catch something on a sale.
Also depends a bit on where you are, I think in the US that might get you a bit more than it does in the EU, but a $1000 is workable.
“Close to a $1000” brother even the PS5 Pro is almost 2/3 the price of that. Most consoles are still half that at $1000. What are you on
Linus isn't pregnant but he always delivers.
💀💀💀
@@HistoriaAlive he is I did it
So he's a midwife or a courier for Amazon
*yet
I think was a great episode to showcase how far the newer hosts have come. Nicely done guys.
The irony of this video is if they weren't out of touch they'd know that just knowing the price of things proves nothing and only demonstrates the ability to recall past information. Congrats. You don't have amnesia.
I've thought about something. You guys have an extreme influence on the gaming/pc building community. And now also a ton of LABS and documented performance of tech.
You are in a really powerful position to launch a website, that would give statistics of how strong each part is etc.
Unlike other websites, you'll have better data and precision.
They do. I can't put the link here, but if you search for "ltt labs", it should show up.
LABS has a website which is rolling up slowly. If you want to know what power supplies not to use...
@@Metal_Maxine Oh yes I hadn't seen. Thanks!
Anything to compete with UBM would be nice.
They do actually have a website for the labs where they've published a few articles with all the stats. Iirc from a wan show, they're working on setting up processes to test and review much larger sample sizes, so it's only up from here.
awesome editing on this one. The voting b-roll in the end was so clean
Great concept and I love it. The only thing I would think will make it better is not to do it on your studio because of parts availability, but it will be better in a store where it will be more comparable to what people may find
In a store (at least a decently big one) they'd probably have had an easier time. As it stands, often as not the midrange parts they actually wanted were checked out and not available.
@@irispettson not necessarily, they could remove, black out the prices and make it like a "surprise" video or concept for the teams
this is one of the greatest idea's for a video, i would LOVE more like this, so dang good, PLEASE MR LINUS MAN , give us more team challenge vids like this
Elijah, holding the exact same motherboard I am running right now: "This looks very cheap."
Alex and I: "Exactly!"
I was thinking from the beginning that a 1% penalty per $10 over was not very harsh and that might play into it if someone just decides to blow the budget and get an overpowered GPU. Alex almost pulled it off.
Instead of 45s to find something, it should have been like five minutes for PC parts, five minutes for peripherals?
Or even make it more game show-like, each team has to answer a plethora of tech questions/get closest to the part's real price without ANY research, etc,. and that awards points that correlate to time you get to pick? That would probably be better for two teams. A wide collection of gaming, pop culture, technical, and "nerd" questions would keep it fun imo too and I imagine the cost would be cheaper (one camera operator and two stationary cameras, you get like 10m of content off of just that)
Could riff off of classic shows like Family Feud, Jeopardy, Press Your Luck, etc,. too. Make it another series where we get different teams of like three people and a bracket which pushes specific builds ("best micro-atx case build", "best amd build", "single color build", "pre-2000s build", etc.) Plus I feel this could easily use sponsored content like AMD, Intel, whatever. I wonder if the sponsors would even be cool with an AMD vs INTEL final battle between the top two teams?
Idk, but the 45s timer seemed too small imo.
This was a great way to bond those employees/family 🤙 great concept!
Did it ever happen to you that you zoned out the entire video to realize there are 3 teams?
"We're not out of touch... as we use an extremely expensive laser etcher"
enjoyed this, hope this becomes a series on this channel :)
Me at 3:12 : 'That's so cool that Alex is not swearing in the video. He is always so calm!'
Me at 3:57 : 'Ye, nvmd.'
"Checked out for lab testing" 4:50 aka stolen from work for personal use. We've seen enough tech upgrades to know how the staff behave.
This was fun! Please do more group engineering challenges like this! I love seeing the way y'all think and work together!
The only people "out of touch" are the people who spend thousands every 6 months on a new GPU because it will give them 2 more Frames Per Second.
@Cocytus best way to do it is upgrade every couple years. Making it feel so much better. I went from a 1050 ti to a 4080 super. Its actually insane.
since when do new gpus release every 6 months you must live somewhere else
@@ultramasterultra5724 new iterations like ti or super as well as OC editions by brands like MSI and ASUS, they do come out pretty often
Don't hate my lifestyle
@@TyTan_ oh yeah its feels so great i went from a gtx970 to a 7900XTX and 2k Monitors soo good
this is ALREADY one of my favorite LTT videos ever and I haven't even finished it yet
Loved this, more of this would be awesome to watchwith different budgets and/or different timers.
0:54 when did he get so buff LOL
1:06 PriceCharting is the video game price tracker. I think you meant PCPartPicker.
@@ZackMuffinMan (also same time) last bullet point contains 2x still)
@@Elektronick.onlinecame down here to say the same thing
This actually helped me out a lot. I'm about to build my first p.c. with around a $1,000 budget.
is this a weird scrapyard Wars?
It's homemade scrapyard wars
@@airbornezombie7655 Scrapyard wars at home.
I don't know whether or not I should be surprised that a huge operation like LMG doesn't have one of those tiny PSU testers that you just plug the 24 and 8-pin connectors into. I know obviously they have the huge, industrial testers, but just a small tester from a field kit is an odd omission that could have easily helped Alex and Elijah during POST-testing.
Love when you guys do stuff like this
Still at 00:17, but I personally think the videos are out of touch (because that's what the views and TH-cam algorithm wants), LTT and the team are not out of touch.
8:09 Yoda laughing.
love these group fast challenges. PLEASE do more!
so nobody was under the price, still out of touch