** Fire Inferno ** 3 Buildings Fully Involved (Tony's Liquor) Broadway Newark Nj 4-22-24 P1
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- the way that the video is edited, it shows the same scene from different angles multiple times. The deck gun was used a lot sooner than the video shows, the driver that used it had to hop over and use another company’s gun due to low manpower.
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The most underutilized piece of equipment, The Deck Gun!!
How do you spot someone who has never been a firefighter and knows nothing about firefighting?
Look for the one shouting... "The deck gun is the most underutilized piece of equipment!"
😆😅😂🤣
@@virgilhilts3924 I recognize jimkeappock's quote. Its from Mike Pertz's (an experienced FF) channel. Go argue with Pertz Virgil!
@@minerran
🤣 Yea you keep telling yourself that.
Ive been hearing wannabe's pitch that line since started my FF career back in 1980.
@@virgilhilts3924 Did you actually search for Mike Pertz's channel to verify or do is it more interesting to play the "superior"here? If you started working in 1980 then you are retirement age now ... an angry old man with nothing better to do than troll people? You copied your handle name "virgil hilts" from the character Steve McQueen plays in "the great escape" .... and I'm the wannabe? LOL
@@minerran
Says the one crying over a decades old assertion made by wannabe's who think using it makes them sound cool. The fact is they are very limited in their usefulness, utterly inappropriate for the vast majority of typical fires.
What's up with the water pressure ??? Come on this is a pro department in a city, WTF
If only the fire fighters were in charge of the water dept and had the keys to boost the pressure.
@@Mark-em5zm if only newark wasn't a rotting wasteland
I guess a ☕️ 1st before
Divní Hasiči jak po mrtvici😂😂😂
All I have to ask is, WHERE'S THE WATER???
You don't want to open a master stream If there were guys inside searching
@@janetclark3557 My GOD! You have no clue, do you? How would soaking those exterior walls and the main fire affect anyone inside the exposures other than PROTECT THEM?
double deck guns are employed
@@robertyoung3992 EVENTUALLY...
First job is saving lives getting people out. Why don’t you volunteer somewhere so you can find out what real life is all about.
To this day they are still stretching LDH.
Looks like they drove right past the hydrant rather then stoping and laying in the line. You see this all the time on so many fire video's. Engines driving right past hydrants and hand laying the line.
@@trvman1 driver should know the location of the hydrants, too raved up to remember their job
Not sure why they do that. I think some efficiency expert came up with that idea. When I was riding (late 70's) our station chief would regularly drill us on streets and where the plugs were. Even though I was a volly, I had to do the same drills the paid guys had to. As such, on calls, we were expected to know where the streets and plugs were. One night we were headed to a fire in which the first in engine was already there, so we knew we had a fire. We got to the place where we were supposed to turn and the chauffeur kept going. Captain ask him if he was alright and he said yes. Captain explained he missed the turn about 3 blocks back. He turned around and went back. Hey, it was 3 in the morning, not like we had to battle rush hour traffic. We layed 2 2 1/2's and I bailed from my jump seat to help prepare the plug. Used car dealer and someone was late and tried to burn the evidence.
All the gear and no idea.
Never lost a foundation yet!
A paid department and participants in the special Olympics could have gotten water on the fire quicker
Wow! So just by watching a 10 minute video and not knowing all the circumstances involved before during and after you can make that statement. I claim no expertise in fire science but I do take into account that I don't know and can't see everything going on at the scene. And if it is soo easy to do this work why aren't you out there showing all of us how much better you can perform these duties. When all you can do is criticize then perhaps you should refrain from watching these particular types of videos. Snap judgements and unfair assessments are hardly warranted or necessary or even welcome for that matter. Until you can prove you are better and more knowledgeable on the subject from sources other than these videos probably best not to share any opinions lest you make yourself a fool.
Maybe the Special Olympics but being paid doesn't instantly make a person competent. You either have a strong and responsible work ethic or you don't. It doesn't come with the uniform.
@@derrickguffey4775 Not ONE word of your gibberish taught how to fight fires or explain where this department OBVIOUSLY under performed. People who don't have the ability to THINK and can only follow what they are told, always leave childish comments for people who do.
Quotas and affirmative action ruined the Newark Fire Department, when officer's are promoted by skin color instead of knowledge that's what happens. Newark Fire Department used to be great, I know first hand what happened because I did 32 years there, and it was great back then 😯
@SG-hh9lu Bad firefighting has nothing to do with a lack of manpower, equipment, or money. It has everything to do with bad leadership and pour work ethics.
Water might be helpful
Why am I *not* surprised that this is Newark, New Jersey?? Is there ever a time when Newark, New Jersey *IS NOT* on fire??
Agree
HEY! another Macrosser! (check the center of my 'iron cross' 😉 )
Where is the water?
Hi Jeff, I've watched quite a few American fire videos, im from the UK, and one thing stands out to me is how slow they all seem in getting water flowing. There are firemen dragging hoses all over the place but it takes so long to get everything set up.
a) There was water flowing before the video even started
b) There was water flowing out of view by the crews working inside (something UK firefighters are afraid to do)
c) The main priority was making multiple rescues in the rear as well as search and evac of the exposure structures
d) Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about
@virgilhilts3924 many thanks for politely clearing that up. However still very slow at getting any water on the front or into the building, lots of nice equipment under utilised.
@@TheModelShipwrightPaulLester
"very slow at getting any water on the front or into the building"
-Exactly how long did it take?
-I mean to make such an assertion have even a remote chance of being credible you have to be able to specify and prove a time...
"lots of nice equipment under utilised"
-Specifically how so?
I may be wrong in judging the reply to this fire but it seems like it’s taking an awful long time to get any water on this fire.
There was water on the fire before the video even started
@@virgilhilts3924tell me where. I see no evidence whatsoever.
Looking at various videos of fires all over the world since a few years now: Every nation has its own pros and cons - just the US firefighters have a speciality - whenever they have to set up against a fire incident, they do it like they have every time they need and like that fire is way bigger than it looks. And so they come with various trucks, lay out those hoses, do some adjustments here and there, try if there is water, put it out again and try another hose and half a hour later or so they have everything ready to put out that big fire it has become finally. Just kidding. Cheers to all firemen all over the world: everyone is glad you do your job! Thanks for your service!
Beautiful old firetrucks at 3:20! Could be 1980s vintage. That's the way: don't throw away what is still in working condition!
I truly have watched 2 departments fight fire so poorly and both are Newark and New York .
Prayer up to everyone who lost thier business and homes
Butwal
Again other units on scene. Obviously a working fire but dont stop and ring hydrant. Instead waste time hand stretching what i estimate 600+ ft of LDH. The time they spent draggingvit back to hydrant they could have it hooked up and water flowing if they just stopped for 10 seconds and one guy hook hydtant
Absolutely correct...
There’s a a hydrant right in front of the building
It’s 2024. Why does the hose not eject itself. The labor involved is ridiculous
It would have to attach itself to the hydrant as well, otherwise they're just dragging it down the street.
Today, Boston fire department responded to a fire where two 3 decker occupied buildings were fully involved in the rear or the C side of the buildings. Within one minute, the battalion chief ordered a third alarm.
Trapped residents were successfully evacuated in just over three minutes.
The fire was reported to be knocked down in just about 25 minutes where overhauling operations commenced. The all out was sounded in a little over an hour while companies were making up.
This is Boston fire department and why it has such a great reputation. I know the way it fights fires with over 30 years in observing them personally.
From what I observed in this video, Newark FD needs to be restaffed with qualified chiefs and undergo retraining of its officers and members. This was a very poor performance of leadership and so-called professional firefighting.
Pro Tip: the fire is INSIDE the 3-story structure on the corner holy Helen Keller
Let's stop and hope everyone is doing ok right my thoughts are with the people who lost their business let's honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen and police who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual great team efforts are deeply appreciated thanks wonder what the couse was stay safe and warm out there much love and respect and appreciation job well done you should be amazed and proud its a service we can't live without right god bless you guys thanks !!! Joe
3:11 The store is still open, amazing!
Any spacial sales going on!
Fire sale 75% off!
OH!! I stand corrected. They have two deck guns, just slow to deploy.
How were they "slow"?
Exactly how long did it take?
All I can think about is all the hose that's gonna need to be picked up 😅
The narrator needs to gargle with some warm salty water.
LOL
why does it take how many minutes to lay out a line and spray water. the firemen are not rushing. seems like they want it to burn more
There was water being put on the fire before the video even started.
But feel free to keep making yourself look foolish
I thought the object was to spray water ASP.
Not a firefighter, but nobody else has answered this, so I'll contribute what I do know. Early in the video, you can hear them say that they're rescuing people out the back, meaning that there are still FFs and civilians inside. One common rule of firefighting is not to spray from the outside while there are FFs working inside. The water stream can knock down and disorient FFs inside, it can bring debris down on them and it can create clouds of superhot steam. Also, the FFs inside presumably have a number of hoselines with them, so it's not like there's no water being used. They use interior OR exterior water, not both together.
Again, not a firefighter, but that's my two cents.
@@sturmovik1274 ah that explains it, thx
They all seem to be lost on scene
Why are so many civilians so close to / in the fireground? You'd think a few could put down the cell phones and help pull supply hose at least🙄
Or.... OR... the fire department could learn how to LAY HOSE!
It’s Newark .. it’s a jungle there
Glad to see a fre company utilize their deck guns that's why u buy them
Waaaaayyyyyy to long to put water on that fire....... waaaayyyy to long. The truck and ladder were on the hydrant.
Exactly how long did it take...?
Provide the proof of each time frame...
@SuperMarketSimGuy64
You clearly aren't a firefighter
@SuperMarketSimGuy64
Your own words prove you've never worked a fire in your life
@SuperMarketSimGuy64
The more you type... the more you prove you have never been a firefighter... no matter how many times you 👍 your own comments 🤣
Before they put water on the fire dont the firefighters have to go in and see if there anyone in the building beore they put water on the fire @SuperMarketSimGuy64
Why do they refuse to lay in is beyond me. The time and manpower it takes to go backwards is staggering.
So what you are saying is that you have no clue what you are talking about or any idea what is going on here
Thanks for confirming that 👍
@@virgilhilts3924 STILL acting like you know what your talking about, huh poser?
Fire inferno: Tony's Liquor, Broadway, Newark, NJ - 3 buildings fully involved.
Not a SINGLE deck gun in operation!! Terrible decision making!!
Two were eventually deployed.
Well when nobody bothers to lay a supply line...
@@ffjsb A supply line was laid but not charged for about 10 minutes. Why, who knows.
They had to wait for Tony Soprano and Snooki to give the ‘ok’.
@@rexmayn3171 Ahhh, I knew something was afoot!! Thanks for sharing that!!
Hey E15, way to drive right by the hydrant as the 2nd due without dropping the line.
Oh gee look yet another armchair quarterback blowing his hole 🤣
#1 request PD for crowd control ,establish a Collapse zone ,move autos blocking additional resources.Never pass a serviceable ( Working) Hydrant .Hook up and let the heavy hose deploy .Caution a Deck gun is great,but limited to number of gallons of water in the tank .Occupied building with Lots of windows ,but no portable ladders .If the members on the roof used the interior stairs to get to the roof.A ladder is needed for emergency from the roof for quick exit.Conditions change quickly Do NOT use such a heavy volume stream ,so close to members operating on the flat roof .They may be blown off from high pressure .Where was the command post ? Safe Tours Always 🙏🇺🇸
And there's the couch commander right on cue 🤣
@@virgilhilts3924 Looks like there were more commanders than my self ,in the comments section .Any way Safe Tours 🇺🇸
In other news to review.. the Hot Toddy had a hint of smoky flavor today.
There's no point telling us what we can already see & hear from radio traffic. Rest your voice.
2:21 thanks for reminding me that I'm impotent; and have an enlarged prostate....
Liked, subscribed and shared your video and your channel
So gotta ask.. no deck gun? to knock it down while you set up for ladder ops?.. Ok i just needed to wait a little longer in the video! Got it
rescues were being made
They deserve alot of credit tons of it let's honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual still going great team efforts are deeply appreciated thanks let's stop and hope everyone is doing ok right stay safe and warm out there love you guys thanks !! Joe 😅😅😊
It took 3:30 minutes to get the first deck gun fired up from the beginning of this video. That doesn’t actually tell us how long from when the engine first arrived on scene which not shown in this video.
On the other hand, in a similar fire in Boston it took 1.15 minutes from when Engine 56 first arrived on scene for the pump operator to get water onto the fire with his deck gun. Excellent teamwork. He uses tank water first while other members set up hydrant and keeps the water flowing without interruption. Record timing. Kudos BFD. This is common with Boston Fire. I’ve witnessed it dozens of times.
👎Newark Fire Department needs a replacement of this battalion chief or deputy chief and retraining of its firefighters. Absolutely no excuse for such a delay in getting water onto the fire. This is not a volunteer department located in the boonies that rely on tank water supplied by trucks. I’ve even seen such departments get water faster on a fire utilizing the engine’s tank water.
Why doesn't Newark key the hydrant with supply line and then drive up to the fire?? How come your Engines do not use their deck guns sooner to knockdown a lot of fire and slow the extension. (3:25 your tape time) Though they could have been shut down after a few minutes. Once you turned the corner, Don't see the access to the apartments over the Market. Don't see any lines there either. That is the most severe exposure and the most severely exposed due to wind. OK at 8 :30 they are going into the exposure. Looked like a tough job. Once again the reduction in manpower is all too clear.
Why did it take so long for them to put water on the fire ?,
1. The first engine has to make room for the other apparatus approaching and an LDH supply line blocks there entry. 2. Usually the next engine hits the hydrants then stretches to the first engine or the first due ladder. 3. Using a deck gun from a truck that usually has @ 500 gals of water would drain the tank in 1-1.5 minutes. Yes, the deck gun is under-utilized but a water source must be secured first to feed that thirsty beast.
@@luicalibre6665finally someone with common sense.
@@thomaswilliamson5951 I'm not sure. I know their manpower has been cut, but it was way too long
@@luicalibre6665 I don't agree with #3. With that much fire you have to hit it quick to stop or slow the extension. Look what happened by waiting. (We don't know how long units were there before Jeff started filming.) As to #1 Why not key hydrant with supply line, 1FF stays there to hookup to hydrant, and rig drives on to fire?? Then you have good position and water. Meanwhile the other FF can start to stretch a line or operate Deck gun.
Was going to ask if they ever managed to get any water on it. Good job they got the truckies up onto the roof to stand around watching it burn though. All that manpower and equipment and it still took them almost 4 minutes to get water on the fire?
Truck guys were on the exposure and were waiting to get orders to cut. Stick to your department with 40 calls a year bud.
@@BikeLifeLRS That fire had a way head start. That looked like arson right off the bat. Starting off in the middle like that and crawling up the walls. Scary stuff.
Thanks for proving that you nothing about firefighting
@@BikeLifeLRS
He's never even spent one day on the job
Where be the tower ladders??
Look at how old these buildings are.
Hope all got out safely. Got out of control quickly.
you should look up the definition of fully involved
Just what I was thinking. A lot of fire for sure, but definitely NOT fully involved.
You fire fighters do fantastic job keeping us all safe be safe all fantastic videos as always 👍🇬🇧👏
Do you actually believe that after watching these guys doing the exact opposite?
@@JB91710Hey look who came out of mommy’s basement! It’s the TH-cam Trained Fire Chief
@@JB91710this is the guy that “can’t” get his mask on outside of the building
@@RetLtFF43 I've probably already asked you this but, how old are you, 6? Is talking firefighting tactics beyond your skill level?
@@JB91710the way that the video is edited, it shows the same scene from different angles multiple times. The deck gun was used a lot sooner than the video shows, the driver that used it had to hop over and use another company’s gun due to low manpower. You’d also know that you probably shouldn’t blast a building when you have guys working inside, something that we can all tell that you are unfamiliar with. Find a different line of work champ.
Look at all the idiots double parked.
Jesus christ people....
Get out your Essentials book and look up "forward lay".🙄🙄🙄
Fire seems to have started in Latinos BBQ Restaurant (574 Broadway)
Modern wirkende Feuerwehr! Aber kein Tanklöschfahrzeug, das verzögert die Löscharbeiten massiv!
It sure took long enough for them to start spraying water...
Awesome catch man!! Thanks for putting it up and with the comms!!
Good camera angle at the first half minute: we see the effect of flammable material on the outside of the house to the right (exposure 4, I guess), probably some sort of plastic used as waterproof cover. What does this remind us of? Yes, the Grenfell Tower disaster in London some 4 years ago: styrofoam on the outside of the highrise had caught fire, causing the whole structure to burn like a torch.
Fire seems to have started in that barbecue restaurant in the middle. Forgotten to turn off that deep fryer, probably!
Two firefighters committed on adjacent roof and water hits the building (well i say hit) at 3.30 minutes!!!
I expect nothing less from drivers in New Jersey.
saw it all the way from branch brook park
Some are helping, some are filming …
They were rescuing people. Cant spray until they are out of the way. Other side was already spraying
Dumping the deck gun??
🧐 jetzt gibts kein Liquor mehr zum trinken 😳
This more than a 3 alarm it's definitely 4 that terrible 😢🙏🙏
Once they had those 2 deck monitors going, they took care of business!
Any time you get a Fire in a Liquor Store you have More Fuel for the Fire to burn.
No. Just NO. VERY few liquors will actually burn well until you get up to 150 proof. And there aren't that many liquors of that proof.
Great video. Fire ground challenges are easier to critique than they are address first hand.
Well EVENTUALLY they got water on the fire I guess...
Looks as though the fire team spent. A few minuets in Tony’s.
Holzhäuser?
either civilians could help pull hose or get the hell out of the way !!!!
Respect aux pompiers pour leurs dévouement sauver les gens et les biens les héros
❤😂😂❤❤😂😂😅😅😊😊😊😊its a service we can't live without right they deserve alot of credit tons of it let's honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen and police who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual still going strong great team efforts are deeply appreciated thanks let's stop and hope everyone is doing ok right stay safe and warm out there !! Joe
Quá chuyen nghiệp cho đội chưa lửa 👍
I don't know if it is just me, or whether there is an underlying reason not known to me, but in the United Kingdom, Belgium, Germany etc water is pumped a lot sooner on to the fire than in the US. In the UK a small line or two are put into action immediately on arrival whilst the main lines are setup. There also doesn't seem to be the urgency to fight the fire. If you YT several fire fighting videos from Netherlands, you will see what I mean. Does anyone have any insight into this?
I know east coast radio communication is different than the Midwest, why does dispatch talk so much. Why doesn't command talk to everyone on scene, then if he needs something, he talks to dispatch.
Here in the UK all the emergency services radios operate on secure channels that ca t be listened into.
Great video Jeff stay safe brother...😮
Why didn't Newark utilize the other 2 Ladder trucks during this fire ?
It went from bad to worse because they tried fighting it from the ground.
most fire departments let the structure burn down before taking any action.
usually they take 2-1/2 hours to set up for a 15 minute operation.
I see you are quite bitter over the fact that you couldn't get a single FD to hire you 🤣
Charge the Line!
There are charged lines everywhere and in use.
Great Job by the PD, the battalion and the civilian autos blocking out the scene so additional resources could not be brought into the front of the fire building, ex. a tower ladder or additional ladder truck
Hand dragging a bed of LDH and 5 mins to get master streams going. I don’t want to ever hear about volly departments again.
Okay fire service leaders..... in this day and age, when FF cancer is still a devastating problem, why do FF's walk into a wall of smoke with no air?
Don't wooden buidings burn really well.
Turn the fucking water on.
Awesome footage! May God bless all the emergency personnel who put their lives at risk to save ours. I hope everyone got out ok and that they may be able to recover from this.
Was this a 5th alarm fire?
Сколько зарплата у пожарных в Америке?
Great Job Jeff AND Fantastic Coverage Stay Safe Bro
Is this the same narrator from the Magestirium TH-cam channel?
Noooooo
I guess the fire crews forgot to grab a hand line and hook it up and start spraying water on the fire on the roof. That could have slowed down at least the exterior fire while the hydrants were being hooked up. The deck guns are great but you can start putting water on the Fire with a hand line with one person while other crews are doing other tasks.
Is there a drought in Newark?
Awesome coverage and awesome job by all responders. Hope everyone is ok...🤗🤗
Jeff, Great job on the narration!! Do also do "TheMajestirium1" platform in NYC??
New Jersey does not know how to fight fires, because they are scare to put water on the fire
How many people are homeless because of this fire? That’s the problem with multiple dwellings so close to each other.
🙏🙏🧑🚒🙏🙏
Slowest firefighters ever!
Why did it take so long put water on?????
God forbid any of those trucks should have gotten a hose on the fire. What exactly do these guys do?
There was water on the fire before the video even started... and continued throughout
But good for you proving you haven't the faintest idea what you are even looking at
@@virgilhilts3924 no there wasn't. You're making that up.
@@ted1091
Listen to the FULL audio of the incident...
Then take note of all the lines going into the structure...
Take special note of all the rescues being made in the rear...
As well as the active search and evacuation...
Then admit how much of a fool you are making of yourself