The Grate Debate: The Solution to P.T.'s Final Puzzle

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  • @evan_6594
    @evan_6594 9 ปีที่แล้ว +809

    Too bad the game's canceled. If P.T. was a glimpse at Silent Hills then, man, what a kick ass game it would've been.

    • @Akenny
      @Akenny 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sgt. Shy Guy microsoft to the rescue

    • @evan_6594
      @evan_6594 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hope they do the job

    • @douggibson2030
      @douggibson2030 9 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Or it's just marketing, after all, pt itself is probably the most genius marketing ploy in the history of video games

    • @middleofthesphere
      @middleofthesphere 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Evan L dude kojima woild have fucked with us hard XD

    • @sissokoc_ops4024
      @sissokoc_ops4024 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or maybe it was supposed to be only a demo in ghe first place,... mahbe thats the reason they put all these secrets into it, maybe they are sayin that it IS A FULL GAME , hell, it has so many secrets onsolved yet, I think DeathStranding isnt Norman-Hideo's first full game, its the SECOND

  • @Maximus_-qc3zt
    @Maximus_-qc3zt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +330

    “I encourage anyone watching to try this out for themselves.”
    R.I.P.

    • @oreo625
      @oreo625 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      F

    • @user-md3is4dq2d
      @user-md3is4dq2d 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I mean, if you still have the game you can, or if you have an older ps4 that's exploitable.
      But I've heard numerous times that it's possible to download and install the game if you have it in your library.
      I'm not sure if this is true or not, and I don't want to try it because I'd have to delete P.T. from my console to try it. I also don't know if this can be done entirely on the PS4 or if you have to use PKGs somehow.

    • @Darkhearts
      @Darkhearts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@user-md3is4dq2d I installed the demo long time ago. It was still in the library but not downloadable. I did the VPN trick and it let me re-download it. This was done like 2-3 months ago so it still works.

  • @but5786
    @but5786 3 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    It is incredible that a demo leaves us thinking for many hours even 7 years later, too bad Konami canceled the project.

    • @owenpadilla9132
      @owenpadilla9132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      kojima carried the company, its sad how they got rid of him

  • @colorxtasy
    @colorxtasy 9 ปีที่แล้ว +673

    TheGrateDebate Kojima explained the name 7780s !
    7780 is the postal code of the town in Japan, shizuoka !
    Shizuoka means "silent hill".
    The "s" in the end of 7780 means "silent HILLS".

    • @colorxtasy
      @colorxtasy 9 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      +TheGrateDebate
      And for the other number, 204863, this is a genome model of a tree called Populus trichocarpa ! A tree that you can find in the real TOLUCA LAKE in L.A (I'm sure that it reminds you something.. ;) ) That also explains the P.T cover in the woods and the several paintings of plants in the hall ! check this : www.gamefaqs.com/boards/827527-pt/69880935

    • @RosettaWolfCatYouDontKnow
      @RosettaWolfCatYouDontKnow 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It translates "Quite hills"

    • @colorxtasy
      @colorxtasy 9 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      💜HushWushBush💜 You meant "Quiet" I think x) Quiet = Silent :)

    • @RosettaWolfCatYouDontKnow
      @RosettaWolfCatYouDontKnow 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Laureana Ams it means Quiet Hills which could roughly translate to silent hills. But still quiet hill

    • @colorxtasy
      @colorxtasy 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      💜HushWushBush💜​ that's what kojima said , not me. And quiet is a synonym of silent. It's definitely the same thing x) but maybe in Japanese, there's a slight difference I guess :)

  • @358thorn
    @358thorn 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1056

    I whispered his name... "K-kojima~"

    • @jesper7163
      @jesper7163 8 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      kojima-senpai~

    • @crpman4099
      @crpman4099 8 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      B-baka!

    • @wielderXII
      @wielderXII 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      i bet

    • @TCapButterCup
      @TCapButterCup 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Then the phone rings then you hear...
      I GO ANNOUNCE A DEATH A STRANDING AND SILENT HILLS CANCELLED (japanese acent)

    • @bluebaconjake405
      @bluebaconjake405 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tyler Ho *Sirrent Hirrs Cancerred*

  • @Crazelord91
    @Crazelord91 8 ปีที่แล้ว +494

    This is so complicated I had to take a break and study some simple Quantum Physics

  • @LegatoSkyheart
    @LegatoSkyheart 10 ปีที่แล้ว +531

    6 Letters and 4 Letters in which 2 letters need to be the same?
    S. I. L. E. N. T. - 6
    H. I. L. L. - 4

    • @Dubaikiwi
      @Dubaikiwi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Yeah, but the numbers don't match up to the letters.

    • @odinlindeberg4624
      @odinlindeberg4624 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Dubaikiwi True, there would be no I in the 6 letter word.

    • @WIP---P-O-L-T-E-R-G-E-I-S-T
      @WIP---P-O-L-T-E-R-G-E-I-S-T 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      S. I. L. E. N. T. - 6
      H. I. L. L.*S.* - 4

  • @MasterXenin
    @MasterXenin 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1092

    I've spent an extensive amount of time testing after watching this video, and have come to the conclusion that you don't need to say "Jarith" but rather anything that begins with a J.
    I've confirmed it working with Jonathon, Joseph, jambalaya, Jehovah's witness, Jumping Jack Frost, or even just saying the letter J. I've also tried changing the first letter of Jarith to a G for "Garith" and got nothing. As soon as I make the slightest J sound it triggers.
    This leads me to believe that it is not just a matter of sloppy voice recognition cutting you slack on speaking the word Jarith (because otherwise slurring Jarith or saying Gareth would have worked), but that the requirements are purposefully anything that begins with a J. The message on the error screen signed by -J combined with the instructions to "speak his name" are indeed the biggest clue, but I just don't think the translation of the numbers has anything to do with it. That logic simply led you to speaking names that begin with J. The reason why most any J name will work is probably because we don't know -J's full name, and Kojima wanted to leave it up to our interpretation or imagination, without being so strict no one would ever solve it.
    Also the eligibility for getting the laugh starts as soon as the clock begins striking, and has nothing to do with the ghost or how far she is into her haunting. I've purposefully desynced the clock and ghost so that one will happen way before the other, and nothing I said worked throughout the entire duration of the haunt, but I achieved a laugh instantly as soon as the clock started up, before the first chime had even ended, because I was already in the middle of speaking. Also, you can wait for both the clock and the haunting to dissipate and speak the name into complete silence, half an hour after it has struck midnight, and it will still register.
    This whole phenomenon feels like deciphering an ARG, and every step forward we make as a community gets me more and more excited at the notion of a Silent Hill directed by such an obvious madman.

    • @pressure6666
      @pressure6666 10 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      so if people say jesus a lot of times while playing it will work as well? xD

    • @wulf2757
      @wulf2757 10 ปีที่แล้ว +205

      Daniel Draven "JESUS CHRIST HOW THE HELL DO I GET THIS DAMN DOOR OPEN!?" "Oh it opened."

    • @WilmoTheBear
      @WilmoTheBear 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I got through it without saying anything.

    • @skyemegakitty
      @skyemegakitty 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      "Jack" has been found to be the only intended name, by dataminers. You're even given the hidden message played backwards "I walked till I stood one pace before Jack"

    • @SickandTide
      @SickandTide 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Did you try saying Kojima?

  • @TheLurkerFox
    @TheLurkerFox 10 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    Oh and 7780 is the size in square kilometers of Shizuka prefecture where the studio is located.... The forest could be on a hill that is in the prefecture, so it literally is Quiet Hill or Silent Hill.(Info courtesy to Caddicarus)

    • @ngxdcooldudefam
      @ngxdcooldudefam 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      *Courtesy of

    • @TheLurkerFox
      @TheLurkerFox 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      t3h3p1c0n3 Whoops! Sorry!

    • @ngxdcooldudefam
      @ngxdcooldudefam 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      KrikaGamerLog I'm used to mistakes on the internet. Don't worry about it! :)

    • @TheLurkerFox
      @TheLurkerFox 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      t3h3p1c0n3 ehehe ^^; For me it's quite a big deal... Though I'm not from an English speaking country, I still HATE making those mistakes...

    • @notthalis9545
      @notthalis9545 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      KrikaGamerLog Or are you just eating Chicken Mgnuggets draped in crack in a rotting basement?

  • @shawnsicle
    @shawnsicle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    *"PT's final puzzle"
    *2014
    Boy, have I got some news for you...

  • @naoboi
    @naoboi 10 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    Or, "Jarith" is also "Jareth", which is a character David Bowie played. Kojima is obsessed with Bowie. So, it's also a cute reference.

    • @naoboi
      @naoboi 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Keep in mind that I in no way believe that jokey phonetic reference is meant to be taken as the actual reference in the context of Silent Hill ok? haha

  • @CapToastyStuff
    @CapToastyStuff 10 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    "Hideo Kojima comes to aid gamers in their continuous search for clues in P.T. with the reveal of the previously mentioned message. The “7780s” phrase found in the game, translates in a post code for Shizuoka, Japan. The name’s translation is Quiet Hills, a common nickname for Silent Hills in that region. So, adding “s” to “7780″ will result in Silent Hills."

    • @CapToastyStuff
      @CapToastyStuff 10 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Sorry to burst your bubble, man.

    • @adammccormick95
      @adammccormick95 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It probably has a double meaning because that whole 'tree' thing obviously seemed to work in solving the puzzle.

    • @CapToastyStuff
      @CapToastyStuff 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      adammccormick95 You can actually say anything you want and it will register. But, I do think it has some connection.

    • @Eebers
      @Eebers 10 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Even if that is true (not doubting it one bit), this guy's solution is super impressive anyway

    • @QuikVidGuy
      @QuikVidGuy 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Corpse Midget But not just anything will trigger it right away

  • @BenSunhoof
    @BenSunhoof 10 ปีที่แล้ว +570

    My God, if this solution is right, then Kojima is a freaking genius to come up with such puzzles.

    • @returnalnocturnal7729
      @returnalnocturnal7729 10 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      ***** the butthurt is real

    • @gameruntiltheend9956
      @gameruntiltheend9956 10 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      ***** then by all means design a game for us and amake it have puzzles lots and lots of hard to figure out with no clue puzzles

    • @clemmu
      @clemmu 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ***** Dumbass, he said "if".

    • @MastaGambit
      @MastaGambit 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      gamer until the end 142
      Get over yourself >_>

    • @MastaGambit
      @MastaGambit 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Martin Espinoza
      the strawman is even more real :\

  • @RulerOfTheLabyrinth
    @RulerOfTheLabyrinth 9 ปีที่แล้ว +637

    My name is Jareth. My girlfriend said my name beside me on the couch, to get my attention. The mike picked it up-- that's how we got the second laugh. An accident. But now i'm more fucked up than the game made me to START with. I have always been a silent hill fan, and MGS is one of my favorite game series' out there. This has got to be more than coincedence. So i took to the internet, and found out MY NAME is the answer to the final puzzle? I DON'T KNOW IF I'M FLATTERED or FUCKING HORRIFIED.

    • @iananimator
      @iananimator 9 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      haha thats awesome

    • @Nixel85
      @Nixel85 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's insane

    • @acaustic
      @acaustic 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jareth Alexander No your name is not the answer. Can't you read? It says JarITH not JaRETH.

    • @RulerOfTheLabyrinth
      @RulerOfTheLabyrinth 9 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      yes i can read. obviously you can't otherwise you'd have understood the nuance of the story.

    • @CruzeControlGS
      @CruzeControlGS 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Tofi It's not the spelling that matters it's the NAME -_-; seriously

  • @wetheck6935
    @wetheck6935 8 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    in Japanese, they like to attribute syllables from the language to numbers (ie for phone numbers on commercials etc.)
    Not to mention a LOT of Japanese horror games and movies have mysterious numbers that translate into syllables.
    here's some of the most common attributions to the numbers:
    2 = fu ni tsu
    0 = o n to
    4 = shi yo
    8 = ha ba pa ya
    6 = ro mu
    3 = mi sa san
    fu o yo ba ro mi
    o fu ro ba mi yo
    ofuroba miyo
    ofuroba = the bathtub
    miyo = older Japanese for "Look at" (commanding)
    (for Japanese learners: "miro" and "miyou" are modern ways of saying it, but "miyo" (without the u) is the equivalent of modern "miro" in old Japanese)
    "Look at the Bathtub"
    Did anyone do that?

    • @mrtieguy7177
      @mrtieguy7177 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +it's snowing on mt.fuji Plagiarism Detected.

    • @annstrain660
      @annstrain660 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Holy fucking shit, you should work at game theory. Seriously just wow. You are a litteral genius.

    • @hypoc09
      @hypoc09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@annstrain660 this solution was posted on a forum 8 years ago, and this comment 6, therefore it's likely not him and has nothing to do with the said solution that was discovered..

  • @ImUhhCaptain
    @ImUhhCaptain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    if you're watching this and dont want nightmares, or if you're just on edge in general here are a few timestamps to avoid/prepare for
    2:44
    4:28
    7:55
    i get this is a video about a HORROR game, but personally im watching it to see the genius puzzles that was made for this game.

    • @afraidsari
      @afraidsari 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ImUhhCaptain 🙏 thank you

  • @jean-christiancote6320
    @jean-christiancote6320 10 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    HEY, did anyone noticed while playing the game that when you reach the final loop, if you got in the stairs and wait for the bell, if you turn back and walk slowly towards the phone, you will see a ghost, but not lisa. When I first saw it, it seemed like a drunken man walking... Could it be the husband of the family ? That would be the explanation of all the beer cans and bottles... But does anyone has another answer to this ???

    • @MachoMoustachio
      @MachoMoustachio 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      What?

    • @feartamal
      @feartamal 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Comments like these need to be upvoted !

    • @soulreaverable
      @soulreaverable 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Underrated comment

    • @LuciaChi
      @LuciaChi 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You should record it. I've never heard of that, but want to see it so badly.

    • @jean-christiancote6320
      @jean-christiancote6320 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I only played it a few times at my friend's place, but I've been watching every god damn video's about this game on youtube and I can't tell you if what I saw was just Lisa or the man I thought it was.

  • @Kirielicious
    @Kirielicious 10 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    OMG this cant be -__- I tried everything to make the baby laugh, for almost ONE hour, and nothing worked... Then paused my Game and watched this video, and, I swear, when he said "Jarith" this Mo.....**** of a baby started to laugh at the paused screen...NAHHH..

    • @riforifo1977
      @riforifo1977 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same shit here!!!!!

  • @Eric-yt7fp
    @Eric-yt7fp 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kojima said earlier today 7780 is the postal code for a place in Japan that translates into English as Quiet Hills, or Silent Hills, but this is a really awesome theory!

  • @BunkerSquirrel
    @BunkerSquirrel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Back when we thought this game would actually be released.
    Man, it still hurts, but at least we got Death Stranding.

    • @owenpadilla9132
      @owenpadilla9132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      meh death stranding was a walking simulator

  • @pbummz4682
    @pbummz4682 8 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    What's the logical conclusion? Kojima gets shit done, but he's kinda insane.

  • @kennepw
    @kennepw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I rewatch this video every now and then just because of how interesting and well constructed it is, great job!

  • @FrightNFight
    @FrightNFight 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I literally can't even watch this video without half looking away from my screen. P.T is one of the greatest games put out this generation

  • @cherrybiscottitouille3753
    @cherrybiscottitouille3753 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    oh my god the murderer was the Goblin King all along

    • @eadlynjune
      @eadlynjune 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cherry Biscottitouille DUDE that’s what I said!

  • @NicholasWagnerdotco
    @NicholasWagnerdotco 10 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    +1 you can say ANYTHING into the mic.. its just listening for audio assuming that's actually required.

    • @DecoyBlackMage
      @DecoyBlackMage 10 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Incorrect, it has to have a J sound, like several others have pointed out in this thread so far.

    • @MEERDERIDEEN
      @MEERDERIDEEN 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      DecoyBlackMage "J" (in English) is enough. Makes more sense because in a quote in the game there is an "J." in the end.

    • @DecoyBlackMage
      @DecoyBlackMage 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      MEER DER IDEEN®
      I have not gotten the other methods to work very well though, the "J" or sound approach, works every time.

    • @MEERDERIDEEN
      @MEERDERIDEEN 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      DecoyBlackMage Yes, as I said, the sound of "J" (spoken in English) works every time.

    • @NicholasWagnerdotco
      @NicholasWagnerdotco 10 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      just following up.. i just had my buddy try it. He said the words: "This isn't working" and that worked.

  • @Cats_Cradle_
    @Cats_Cradle_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always said "help me" into the mic, and it worked every time

  • @rachitkumarsinha9521
    @rachitkumarsinha9521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7 years, and this is still so good....

  • @Postmortem88
    @Postmortem88 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This method worked for me the first time I tried. It's unbelivable how Kojima put so much deepness into this puzzle, that's why I love him and that's also why I think the upcoming silent hill game will be the best one to date.
    Also what I found interesting in PT was the fist room. If you look at the walls, there are tallies (those counting lines) carved into the walls. And after a while, you can hear the noise, like someone is carving more lines. There is also a paper bag on the table with blood on it. I don't know what all that means but maybe that's also a small puzzle or another secret?

  • @CecilyJisi
    @CecilyJisi 10 ปีที่แล้ว +587

    I dunno about you, but P.T. MAKES MY T.T. FLEE THE C.T.!!

    • @jacktangent
      @jacktangent 10 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Caddicarus...

    • @CecilyJisi
      @CecilyJisi 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ROBLOX Jack NO. FUCKING. SHIT

    • @jacktangent
      @jacktangent 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ***** You're mean...

    • @willb586
      @willb586 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      caddicarus refrence

    • @cat_ann_
      @cat_ann_ 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I understood the reference.

  • @DaVeganZombie
    @DaVeganZombie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "Go try it!"
    Yeah. I'll get on that....

  • @AliAzri
    @AliAzri 9 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Kojima = the King in developing a game.

  • @mikecunningham4682
    @mikecunningham4682 9 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Could "he slid his handover mine" mean that you have to swipe the touchpad on the DS4?

    • @iananimator
      @iananimator 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      thought this as well! they overlooked that

  • @SuperVic124
    @SuperVic124 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think I'm going to have Bob whispering Jarith as my ringtone for when I wake up.

  • @JabaToons
    @JabaToons 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is great! =D Love how intricate it all is yet you were able to take us through it step by step.

    • @owenpadilla9132
      @owenpadilla9132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      what the.. jabatoons. how did you get here

  • @lickidactyl9091
    @lickidactyl9091 10 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    J_R_T_
    JARATE

    • @noszelias
      @noszelias 10 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      You solved it
      When you see the ghost, just toss a jar of piss on him and minicrit the shit out of him with your melee wep
      Stupid spies, pretty useless.

    • @sampza00
      @sampza00 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      da spooki ghost is a spy

  • @XD4Lifeington
    @XD4Lifeington 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's amazing that you dove so deep to solve this puzzle. The puzzle itself is also pretty damn impressive.

  • @SumeaBizarro
    @SumeaBizarro 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It would been interesting if you had also analyzed the first twitch broadcast. This probably happened in twitch precisely because streamers often talk while broadcasting the game. Given everybody streaming, that first guy probably said something close enough to "Jareth" to trigger the true end.
    This probably is the thing kojima did not expect when he stated that it would take weeks for players to figure out the final puzzle; the pure random change with implementing the microphone speech regicnition, and thousands of twitch streamers playing the game while talking.
    The funny thing that happened there is now instead finding the answer to conclusion people are finding the why from conclusion, and the unfounded stuff still could be very intriguing.

  • @brackosands9084
    @brackosands9084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For PT emulator
    1st: Wait till 0:00 and walk 10 steps
    2nd: Approach Lisa and whisper "Lisa" into the mic
    3rd: Stand still until baby

  • @LordOFrogs
    @LordOFrogs 10 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    I was brought here from Caddicarus. Anyone else?

  • @ImBatman-dk8eh
    @ImBatman-dk8eh 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The flashlight colors were an example of minor differences in parallel universes. The hallway always changes in some way, and you have a very VERY small chance that your flashlight colors will change because, in that Silent Hill of many Silent Hills (eh?) the flashlight color was green, or blue etc

  • @henrychinaski
    @henrychinaski 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    7780 is the postcode of Shizuoka, Japan. It's often referred to as Silent Hill. Hence, "7780s" Studios means "Silent Hills". The code is HILL not tree!

  • @Raiigen
    @Raiigen 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    While I did manage several times to successfully trigger the second laughter using the "calling Jarith's name into the mic", it always worked without flaws when I searched for Lisa's moans / cries during the haunting and exactly in the spot where her voice was loudest I called his name. Usually it's next to the clock or the radio. Played the demo countless times and it always worked.

  • @Todarain
    @Todarain 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Oh thank god. You know, hwen he first found out the third letter, J_R_T_, i thought the Solution was Jarate.

    • @mdude3
      @mdude3 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. o_O

    • @EasyWind013
      @EasyWind013 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love you guys...I just laughed so hard my coffee came out my nose

  • @WowoTheWizard
    @WowoTheWizard 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is absolutely brilliant. Hats off for figuring this out.

  • @cameronatkinson2795
    @cameronatkinson2795 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    'The Great Debate' and 'Final Solution' bring up a lot of interesting similar to this video results.

  • @vVAstrAVv
    @vVAstrAVv 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    saw the jarith method used on jesse cox's channel
    worked really quick and pretty much convinced me that it was the definite answer
    great video

  • @XMordekaiserX
    @XMordekaiserX 10 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    How about (7780s = Hills) from Silent Hills ?

  • @kilsontejada
    @kilsontejada 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome. That level of depth in this. Just having to do so much research for a teaser! I hope this is a sign that the game will be this deep.
    I am very excited for this game!

  • @NitroRad
    @NitroRad 10 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Kojima has already confirmed that 7780s came from a Japanese nickname given to "Silent Hill", with the S making it Silent HillS. Also the loading image was a photo of one of the dev's backyard, just to use as a photo to represent the game.
    I highly doubt that this ridiculously convoluted solution you've found by cross referencing the numbers with the word "tree" is what the developers actually have had planned.

  • @davidfleming9812
    @davidfleming9812 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been trying to finish this since it was released and was never able to trigger the second giggle. Today I said Jareth into a mic a few times and it worked. Thanks man.

  • @ShinyVHS
    @ShinyVHS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You were curious how the zero shows up in 08/24/63?

  • @jacklei7559
    @jacklei7559 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn't use microphone for the entire demo but it is definitely good to know there are multiple solutions. Will give this a try later.

  • @megamanx503
    @megamanx503 10 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    i would like to clarify, since silent hills will be released on the xbox one, i will be getting it on that, or if it's on pc, and i have a gaming rig then i will get it on pc
    as of now, i have no interest in getting a ps4

    • @AdamRozza
      @AdamRozza 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What about Uncharted 4?

    • @Zinneps
      @Zinneps 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** Uncharted really isn't as appealing as some people seem to think it is/want it to be. Especially now that Tomb Raider is getting great new games.

    • @AdamRozza
      @AdamRozza 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Zinneps
      Well, I think Uncharted is much better than Tomb Raider.

    • @trolzer1180
      @trolzer1180 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** P.T stands for playable teaser , i heard that this game is a teaser for "silent hills" so mabye you will get more

    • @AydarBMSTU
      @AydarBMSTU 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's not an exclusive, lol

  • @mitchell2719
    @mitchell2719 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's incredible that you and others have figured this out. Hell, I can't even solve Device 6 without looking up a walkthrough and this is amazingly cryptic!

  • @Netsuke0
    @Netsuke0 10 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    My theory:
    Jarith is a way you can write Jared - a biblical character.
    Jared is Enoch's father.
    In the Bible, Enoch is the man who God takes to the Heaven. He didn't die.
    According Caballah, Enoch turns into an angel called Metatron.
    Metatron "appears" several times in Silent Hill franchise as the opposite of Samael.
    So, Jarith killed Lisa (who was pregnant) to try kill their child. The fetus in the sink is Enoch - or Metatron - and his laugh release the player from that hallway.

    • @annstrain660
      @annstrain660 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you my local preist??

  • @TheMemeSheriff
    @TheMemeSheriff 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its amazing how much effort was put into a TRAILER

  • @yans4293
    @yans4293 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why do i watch videos about this game before i go to bed

  • @TheSnazzcast
    @TheSnazzcast 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I spent so long trying to finish this teaser and this method worked first time. Thank you so much.

  • @FrostyPhones
    @FrostyPhones 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    >see this video
    >feel frightened of how complex this game and its mysteries are
    >decide to give the video a like
    >uploader has 666 subscribers
    kojima confirmed for god of fear

  • @honeybeeami2654
    @honeybeeami2654 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Years ago I watched this, and six years later how intricate this puzzle is amazes me. Horror is such a unique place to put this kind of thing, as your brain in horror or terror naturally will not perform complex thinking, rather a fight, freeze, or flight mindset takes over.
    I imagine had we gotten a full game we would’ve had more of this, where our fear is the barrier and we have to use logic rather than instinct to win. I believe if any company could’ve made our brains both our biggest enemy and resource it would’ve been these guys

  • @bandalodyugitube
    @bandalodyugitube 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh god, he's calling it "the final solution"

  • @SimbaChar
    @SimbaChar 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just tried it and it works...fhew..Kojimi is incredibly smart to come up with these puzzles. However, for TheGrateDebate to work this out , deserves even more credit. Thanks guys and well done!!!

  • @sorual4604
    @sorual4604 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Kojima, im not even kidding. you are one of the most awesome puzzle makers in the history of ever. and mr. thegratedebate, you are one of the most clever people i have ever heard of on this world! im not even kidding!

  • @bob2theicles323
    @bob2theicles323 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome! I'm so amazed by how much work you guys put into figuring this out!

  • @Kameratyp
    @Kameratyp 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used the: "did you rike it? !" method

  • @bencracker99
    @bencracker99 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus this is insane. I couldn't get the ending to work for me and I was pissed. Idk if the mic was broken, but I tried other theories of trying to communicate with her but it wouldn't work. All in all, amazing game. Truly impressed. Scary and brilliant all around.

  • @NecroMantis
    @NecroMantis 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jarith worked immediately. Nice work.

  • @Vexce11en1
    @Vexce11en1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really sucks that this was cancelled, so much work was put into dissecting this teaser and it's ridiculous puzzles

  • @AnEternalEnigma
    @AnEternalEnigma 10 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I got the second baby laugh while I had the game paused...

    • @xPikshade
      @xPikshade 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      So did I, but I also had a mic connected and was sitting in a room with my friend. It's possible it picked up something and thought it was the answer. Voice recognition is still sketchy.

    • @MetalHearts100
      @MetalHearts100 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Me too man, damn it.. Paused the game to get some food and the fucking baby laughed.

    • @imaginepeace8574
      @imaginepeace8574 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      MetalHearts100 pants were shat on that moment XD

    • @amadav4889
      @amadav4889 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      MetalHearts100 baby : "how you got some food did you can i have some? 'laughs'

    • @thatscottishdude_2858
      @thatscottishdude_2858 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your name just describes it all.
      "AnEternalEnigma."

  • @ZoMbi5lAy3r
    @ZoMbi5lAy3r 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7780 is the postcode of the Shizuoka region in Japan. The name translates roughly to "Quiet Hills," and the region's name has become a nickname for Silent Hill in its native country. Tack an "S" on the end and you end up with Silent Hills

  • @msampson3d
    @msampson3d 10 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I'm a bit confused. People have presumably got to the ending without saying anything into a mic. Is the thought that the mic heard random noise as the name?
    Also, I don't have a ps4. Do they all have a mic or something? Seems strange to create a solution that only people with a certain peripheral can solve...
    Edit: So it's clear to me now that the PS4 doesn't have a built in mic. One thing brought up in replies is that there are likely multiple triggers but this is one method to do it consistent.
    The next thing that it's unclear is if you really have to say that name, or can you just say literally anything into the mic? I don't think the vid mentioned testing alternate words.

    • @DanielSantosAnalysis
      @DanielSantosAnalysis 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I am pretty sure the controllers have a mic built into them.

    • @SpaziogamesIt
      @SpaziogamesIt 10 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      ***** No, they don't. But every PS4 comes bundled with a microphone and earpod.

    • @MasterDarlux
      @MasterDarlux 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      all the ps4 come with a basic headset, is a headphone and a mic :)

    • @DanielSantosAnalysis
      @DanielSantosAnalysis 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SpazioGames.it
      Ah, my bad

    • @Walker_AO
      @Walker_AO 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Komija like to make some stuff directly with the console (in MGS, psychomantis read your memory card). So, as the Playstation4 is sell with a mic, he could have the idea to analyze your voice.

  • @spookycookies19
    @spookycookies19 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excuse me while I sweep up my brain chunks on the floor, this just blew my mind. Thank you Kojima for bringing everyone together in this way.

  • @elcamel1216
    @elcamel1216 10 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    What's the explanation for the 10 steps? What indicates to the player to go exactly 10 steps?
    The only reference to the number 10 is in the bathroom dialogue post eye hole scene. The quote ends with something like "...10 months back." But it's so disconnected from the picture puzzle instructions.
    What's the explanation for the 10 steps?

    • @MrShawno1231
      @MrShawno1231 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      elcamel1216 The bell toll at midnight, the very moment you hear it move ten steps forward and ten steps only, the baby will then laugh.

    • @elcamel1216
      @elcamel1216 10 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      ***** I know that's what you do. I can't help but feel like you didn't read the comment. The question is what in the game explains why you go exactly ten steps?

    • @MrShawno1231
      @MrShawno1231 10 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      elcamel1216
      I think the radio at one point says:"I walked till I stood one pace before Jack" This is referring to a deck of cards, for i.e. one pace before Jack means the number of the card is 10, again referring to the ten steps, as in "Ten steps before the jack, eleven"
      As for the Jarith theory, looking back at how the error messages are written, for i.e. contact J, 20 years back is referring to the second protagonist of the Silent Hill franchise, Silent Hill is 20 years old. The name of Silent Hill 2's protagonist was J Sunderland, first name being James, so the whole Jarith thing after a bit of research is a total farce and only works because the mic technology voice recognition isn't up to scratch. The real name that is key to finishing the final puzzle is James.

    • @7HillsTown
      @7HillsTown 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      elcamel1216 I think your theory's correct. The fetus says that it all happened 10 months back. The fetus is not much older than 2 months. So Lisa might have got pregnant 1 year ago, and the murder of the whole family have taken place 10 months ago. My other suggestion is the clock showing 23;59... (2+3)+(5+9)=5+14=19 => 1+9=10

    • @7HillsTown
      @7HillsTown 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ***** I never heard or saw anything like that "I walked till I stood one pace before Jack"... The paper bag says "I walked. I could do nothing but walk." So that "Jack and deck of cards" thing seems dismissed.
      /watch?v=GpRLoyHQHyM
      The radio says "Nine-eleven" instead of "Nine-one-one". "9,11" is either somehow referred to September 11th, or it's just "9+11=20" which leads us to your clue of 20 years Silent Hill.

  • @sqitso
    @sqitso 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really good. I beat the trailer twice through trial and error, but it bugged me sooo much that there was no exact way to do it. Now I feel that the trailer was well designed instead of random.

  • @marcatalyst
    @marcatalyst 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ALSO 7780s is also the square meters of the area in japan known as silent hill. 204863 is a gene code for a plant "Populus trichocarpa" which is a tree!!

  • @GeezyLoves420
    @GeezyLoves420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a theory about the loading screen.
    Its generally accepted that P.T and the fourth wall, veiled dialogue within, is a message from Kojima about his split with Konami.
    Absolutely genius btw.
    With that in mind, on the loading screen, the tree trunk with the P.T logo on it has been chopped with a small budding flower growing out of it.
    I believe this is a visual metaphor for the *ahem* axing of Kojima Productions and Kojimas intention to start anew.
    Legendary.

  • @jenniferxjeopardy
    @jenniferxjeopardy 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i watched john (harshlycritical) complete this without the jarith part. still an amazing theory though!

  • @CoffeeSprocket
    @CoffeeSprocket 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Even IF this theory is incorrect (hey, it works when put into action!), a lot of work was put into this video and the research. I really enjoyed this.

  • @deannasaber712
    @deannasaber712 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    ... I really shouldnt be watching Silent Hill/P.T. videos at 1 oclock in the morning....

    • @angelgirl976
      @angelgirl976 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Shannon Penasar I decided it was a good idea to watch the video where you can catch a glimpse of Lisa if you exit the starting room backwards after dying.
      Worst idea ever.

    • @deannasaber712
      @deannasaber712 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Lauren Carroll oh God...
      I think I watched that one as well. To be honest, I watched about 4/5 PT vids... Worst sleep of my life. XD

    • @annstrain660
      @annstrain660 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've got school tomorrow. Well, now I'm heading to school with and expanding piss stain.

    • @afraidsari
      @afraidsari 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      watching these at 2am so just gonna leave all my lights on

  • @ahmedp800
    @ahmedp800 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video and explanation.
    But I believe there is indeed multiple ways to solve the last puzzle and not a one definitive method.
    I did solve it without a mic, I just had to hear the hunting voices and know where it came from, go there, and a second laugh.
    Kojima is a Master Mind!
    I am super excited for Silent Hill(S)

  • @goargrind
    @goargrind 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The only word I could think of was "eels".

  • @goodmancharlieb
    @goodmancharlieb 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tested it out. Worked in 2 1/2 to 3 minutes like you said, first try at the loop. Amazing.

  • @KrzysztofKotarba
    @KrzysztofKotarba 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    it's kinda funny that one person somehow randomly solved this on live stream :D

  • @alexking625
    @alexking625 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such a good video! You should make more of these questioning videos!

  • @AnonyMous-rr1br
    @AnonyMous-rr1br 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well, so much for the theory about what 7780s means.
    7780 is the postal code for a place in Japan that has a name that roughly translates to Quiet Hills.
    www.ign.com/articles/2014/08/22/hideo-kojimo-explains-that-mysterious-number-in-the-pt-demo

  • @245k66
    @245k66 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7780=the area of a Japanese city called Shizuoka(静岡)
    Shizuoka have meaning "silent hill(s)" in Japan.
    静=silent
    岡(丘)=hill(s)

  • @PGunnii
    @PGunnii 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Arcade Fire reference in the description makes me so happy

  • @aenimatt
    @aenimatt 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Coincidentally, as funny as it was, saying "Jarith" did work on the first try. We were by the radio and said it, and Lisa came out of nowhere and possessed us. It scared the fuck out of me, but instead of going through the door and restarting the loop, we went into the bathroom while possessed. The baby did the second laugh by seeing us possessed by the mother. The controller shook, the baby laughed again and the phone rang. I think it's actually as simple as just getting possessed and going into the bathroom to get the second baby laugh. It's just funny that it worked the time we said "Jarith"

    • @linseymichael6944
      @linseymichael6944 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      What was the gameplay like when you were "possessed"? Because I know Lisa will run at you if you take more than ten steps.

  • @GMK4EVER
    @GMK4EVER 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the best deduction of clues I have found on P.T. to date. Absolutely on board with the "tree" decipher reference, which lead to the father's name.
    I'm going to see, if the different flash light colors perhaps reveal clues to substantiate the Jerith solution to the chanted number.
    Be all that, as it may, I did have a 100% success rate with whispering Jerith any time AFTER the church bells ring midnight. (looking at one of the haunted items when whispering may help - was able to get the baby to laugh while in the room with the bloody bag on the table after I got blind sided by Lisa)
    Also 100% success with the 10 steps AFTER a haunting. worked every time so far.
    Making that phone ring in 2 minutes... ish every RUN I made to date (50 ish)!

  • @theprobigdady5656
    @theprobigdady5656 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shame I can't try out any of these methods anymore thanks Konami that's right I remember

  • @OmegaJester09
    @OmegaJester09 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man kojima should give you a medal or something cas those are some insane puzzle solving skills there...

  • @datemasamune2904
    @datemasamune2904 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Even if this game were not cancelled, I still wouldn't get it. Why? Because I enjoy staying sane.

    • @scab268
      @scab268 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Date Masamune i'd get it i'm an insane motherfucker and im sad as fuck i missed out on p.t.

    • @robbieliddle2462
      @robbieliddle2462 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sanity is overrated.

  • @keithklassen5320
    @keithklassen5320 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't think I've ever heard of anything more Kojima than this.

  • @TheFerris96
    @TheFerris96 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Kojima played us like a damn FIDDLE !

  • @jacktangent
    @jacktangent 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sometimes it makes me wish I was old enough to play P.T. and solve the perplexing puzzles...

  • @Kwiksilver83
    @Kwiksilver83 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't think it has to be a name at all whispered into the mic. I watched Jay_Flint on Twitch just loop the Metal Gear Solid enemy alert sound a few times and it worked.

  • @MrHatKat
    @MrHatKat 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about the third line of text, "Then he slid his index finger over my hand". Maybe pressing R1, L1, L2, or R2 is important as well.

  • @stuartrockin
    @stuartrockin 10 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    So... all of this basically means Half Life 3 confirmed?

  • @randomlyentertaining8287
    @randomlyentertaining8287 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7780s Studio refers to the area, in square kilometers, of Shizuoka Prefecture. A literal translation of the prefecture's name is "Quiet Hills", and in Japan, the Silent Hill series is often nicknamed "Shizuoka".
    EDIT: Oh and the loading screen is made to be random and odd, like the name "P.T." to both encourage you to check out the demo and to hide the fact it was the demo for the next Silent Hill game.

  • @CJPlays13
    @CJPlays13 10 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    DAMN YOU'RE GOOD

    • @arsnakehert
      @arsnakehert 10 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      "You're pretty good!"

    • @Dakhoth
      @Dakhoth 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      arsnakehert In retrospect I kinda wish the voice on the phone had said "Kept you waiting, huh?" instead of "You've been chosen."

    • @cazadorcazado08
      @cazadorcazado08 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "They played us like a damn fiddle!"