P.T.'s Hidden Meaning
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2019
- ♪ Is this heaven, or is this hell? ♪
♪ Through a silver screen, you're sayin' what you mean ♪
♪ But I can't tell ♪
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So basically PT is the greatest diss track of all time
LOL
Omg lol
That's clever.
@@CabezasDePescado thats why i dont sub to this guy. dont worry, its known
And I will accept no other theories.
By deleting PT from PSN Konami has completed a work of autobiographical art.
Erasing the markings but the memories will remain.
Also P.T.: 'Don't trust the news, they're being controlled by them.'
True fucking art. People that say kojima is full of himself are right. But he has the right to be. He has them skills
If there's one thing Kojima is a master at, it's playing the player.
Oo you mean that Easter egg from MGS5
Will we tell this to our children? Lol games siring childrens.... Ha
Ok, you had me kinda skeptical at the beginning, but when you hit me with the "Exactly 10 months back" line, I lost my shit and was invested.
That was the same exact moment when I was completely on board, everything else before it I entertained as an interesting alternative interpretation of the game. But that scene took the cake, I actually gasped!
This is my third time watching this all the way through and I still get goosebumps at that part. Every. Single. Time.
Same same same same
10 months back Lisa got hired by her boss who liked how she looked in a skirt. It was a realization the dad made. LISA got KNOCKED UP by her BOSS and that's why her husband killed her and the unborn bastard and the other daughter was a casualty of the Dad losing his marbles.
It gave me chills I thought I was in the whole "everything is coming together" moment in a horror movie
Remember when the radio said "The father lured her out by telling her 'it was just a game'"?
That makes so much more sense now. "It's just a game," meaning it's insignificant compared to profits.
Kojima playing 4D chess all this time...
to then shoot it down huh...
I noticed another detail that I think fits with this hidden message idea within P.T. When peeking through the hole, the radio talks about how society is rotten and the people who had their jobs taken need to do something about it. Of course in line with it being a horror game, there are gruesome sounds at the same time suggesting that the action being taken is violence, but in real life I think it's hinting at Kojima trying to tell people that his job was taken from him and he's going to do something about it by what he did with this game in general.
"I got a message for all you folks out there in radioland. Now's the time for action. Our society is rotten to the core. I'm talking to all the fine, upstanding folks got their welfare cut, got their jobs pulled out from under 'em. Yeah, you! You know what to do! Now's the time! Do it!" (Disturbing sounds in the background get more intense on this end point.)
@@Bowlfrog44I wish I could have played it. I love games like that. Vusage, Madison, Infliction, etc. I wonder if there is a way to play it.
There is a disgusting premature mutant baby in P.T. and a glowing flawless innocent baby in Death Stranding. Perhaps this in itself is a metaphor.
Like how MGS5 was pushed out before it was ready?
@ArchersBowHaveBroken I doubt a normal baby would have a voice like that. :P
rebirth?
I think it is suggesting this is Kojima's new future. Fingers crossed for some amazing new IP's.
...or it hints at the fact that Norman Reedus eats babies?
this is not a theory video, this is a puzzle solved, congratulations
Yea but this theory was made and is considered the final truth of PT almost 2 years ago by the community.
You can even look at it like... The player character could be a Dev for Kojipro. If Lisa is an allegory for the Fox Engine, then her breaking the character's neck and *seemingly* eating them alive could be an admission that the Fox Engine was a bitch to work with. Also, the swedish broadcast telling you to join Kojipro kinda helps this y'know?
But that's just a theory, a GAME THEO- *gunshot*
Umm this was solved like years ago.. like srsly.. idk why this man didnt give any credit to those who solved this hidden meaning..
1000
I add link video that this case was solved three years ago
20 mnts here:
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Lisa in russian "Лиса", which literally translates as... Fox.
Fox Engine.
Ебаа
Немного слишком, но, как теория, очень приятная мысль.
Holy shit
No way holy sh-
I just looked that up, you're completely full of shit lol. Lisa is "Лиза" in Russian. Note the third character.
I actually almost shit myself from laughing when I saw the guy split "bridges" in half and traced over "MGS Zero" lmao
I bet Kojima is watching this, thinking to himself "after all this time, you finally cracked the code."
Or more likely "They mostly got it, but they missed a few things. That's alright. Those were just for me anyway"
TheGrateDebate to Kojima: Kept you waiting, huh?
"What took you so long , Snake" ;) when you rescue Kojima himself in the secret mission in MGS5
Or...he’s like people have crazy conspiracy theories, and I created a cool teaser but higher ups fired me cause I was unprofitable.
@@TheSterlingArcher16 Yeah, as if people like to grasp for straws and make a religion out of random things ;) *cough* big religions *cough*
I swear, corporate Japan is already a cyberpunk-esque dystopia.
Not just Japan, friend. The bottom feeders are never quite sure what lurks above the waves
Cyberpunk resembles corporate nonsense entirely by design, and not just Japanese. Japan is just in the spotlight a lot and doesn't even try to hide these things. There's lots of scummy stuff in western corporations, but they hide it behind a saccharine front.
Japan is in a sort of dystopian cyberpunk hyper drive though, with workers literally dying from overworking themselves
I mean, he spent 100 million dollars on a very hard to use engine, of course the higher ups are gonna be pissed
@Orwell Jones Laeddis INFUCKINGDEED
@Orwell Jones Laeddis LOL 62 cents
Kojima is in his 60s, we need to appreciate him while we have him. The most successful unique mind in video game history
PopularNobody Hes 56
Dude looks incredible for being in his 50s.
Wait he is 56??? I thought he was in his early 40 or sum
HE IS 56? He looks like 27 o_o
He looks like about 35ish. It's true we Asians don't raisin lol
The line "Watch out.The gap in the door... it's a seperate reality"
there was a part in the game at the start where the door to the bathroom was cracked open and a baby was crying inside, but it was like a healthy baby cry
so in a different reality hideo's baby was still healthy
Which means silent hill will come up soon no matter what happened
😮
In Death Stranding, BB is healthy.
@@skuglious yup
In another universe...
Him saying look behind you on the radio is so much creepier now that we know she’s behind you the whole time.
is that Konami always watching?
adm3337 holy shit
@@adm3337 Holy fuck! That's something to think about.
It’s because corporations are watching closely on what you do, like TH-cam.
Just like you are everywhere
Tfw you roast a multi-million dollar corporation with a fetus
No Way Fuc Yu fukken A rite m8
More like multi billion.
I know this has nothing to do with the comment, but what the actual fuck does it say at 1:53 ?
Pro gamer move
David Lynch has been doing that for 40 years.
This makes death stranding so much meaningful.
It's a new journey, and gonna be hard in the beginning, but later with FRIENDS you will rise. Kojima has so much to do.
Another piece of the puzzle?
What a fantastic game it was as well. Kojima does not miss.
I'm pretty sure Kojima just does a bunch of random stuff (whatever his team allows as they severely limit the crazy) into "his" games, waits for fan theories and then goes "yea, that's what it was about, I'm brilliant!"
@@InitialFailureehhh.. i mean people talk about how crazy mgs2 is but for the most part he's aping the new york trilogy.
The game is not related to him leaving 😂😂 you nerds be looking to deep into shit when I don't have to
"You remember, right? Exactly ten months back." GOOSEBUMPS.
THAT WAS FUCKING AWESOME
Kojima calling the future Death Stranding actors his "Soul Warriors" and saying he's "charged up" is adorable! God bless that loveable dork!
I highly recommend following him on twitter. The man is the human embodiment of creativity and boundless passion for art. And yes, he's just a loveable dork x3
Plus he created his own 'outer heaven' when you think about it.
I wonder if those were a boktai reference
Dreaming of Neo Tokyo tonight~
Wow I didn't realize mobile games had had this much of an impact on kicking Kojima out of Konami.
Thanks for reinforcing my hate for gacha cancer. Literally killing videogames.
Profit will always come before art. Remove the profit incentive, more room for art
Let's not forget that they disgraced MGS3 by making such beautiful cutscenes for a stupid pachinko machine 😡😡
capitalism
Keep in mind the context of the situation. Kojima was overspending money on his games way more than he should have for lengthy amounts of time. On the other hand you have this dude who put together a gacha game that made absolutely insane amounts of money consistantly all the time.
From a business standpoint it absolutely makes sense this would happen. Why keep Kojima around with him spending all of your money on a games that take forever to be eventually complete and then make back that money when you can spend less money on a gacha game that makes you even more money on a regular basis?
@@CatManThree They've been making games for a while at that point. Everyone knows that games just like movies (or any form of art really) require large investments upfront but they also bring in huge amounts of money afterwards. That's how art works. If you don't want to make art or engage with art then don't enter the business, fund great creators, take their ip to do basically nothing with it and just disband their studio. That's just a shitty practice that's worth being called out. It's not unheard of for games to require large investments of time and money to be made. That's the business model they were working with for decades at that point and found great success with but instantly bailed as soon as in their eyes a slightly more lucrative short term alternative arose. I don't know how you can defend that. They have no integrity.
Assuming that Death Stranding is biographical, there's something quite sad about Reedus being able to see, what is essentially his baby from behind glass, but it's something he'll never be able to hold or to touch.
Yea, I think the three major parties of Silent Hills (Kojima, Reedus, Del Toro) will always feel a degree of loss when thinking of what they could have made
You just heard a man’s desperate cry into the void and broadcasted it to the world
“Are you sure the only you is you?” is probably Kojima taking shots at Hideki Hayakawa saying that his mobile game is just one more in an ocean of unoriginal games
It could also refer to the fact that just as Hayakawa replaced Kojima at Konami, Hayakawa is also at risk of being replaced (whether it be by someone who can make even more money or otherwise).
In this way, Kojima is saying Hayakawa isn’t special and is just as expendable.
sencreampai I do think he’s saying Hayakawa is replaceable but he isn’t. “The only me is me” he says right before supposedly taking shots at Hayakawa
@@ImPDK well, is he wrong? Kojima is kojima, there's no one like him in the gaming industry. He's saying "im the only kojima there will ever be, I'm unique, are you?"
sencreampai Exactly what I was going to say. Anything is expendable when it comes to almighty dollar.
I was thinking that it was referring to the head of Konami, as he was said to have 'invented a great man story around himself'.
So technically the “silent hills” at the end wasn’t a teaser.
It was the credits
Edit:how has this comment gotten the most like ever and why do I feel like I don’t deserve it
Fuck... you're right. Whoa...
Max and Friends or it was a teaser for his upcoming game/concept.
It was the credits, along with what was basically an advertisement for his new game and studio on Konami's dollar... or uhhhh... yen 😂
@@keystonelyte Why else did P.T star Norman Reedus? He represented Kojima escaping the "house" aka Konami, to be in a new series (Death Stranding).
or a statement
PT strikes me as being a culmination of Kojimas fear and dread of being let go by Konami. I think that's why its a horror experience because the pain and unknowing of his situation caused a great amount of anxiety in Kojima. So he did the only thing he knew he could do. Create.
THAT is what creatives do.
Pretty sure the lines in Swedish about aliens invading and monitoring us is a reference to the joke UFO endings to Silent Hill games.
You're right and that's what makes the message all the more compelling.
Since 20th century, the idea of intelligent Extraterrestrial life became more and more daunting, as time goes on to the point people believe aliens are monitoring. This is a parallel to Konami monitoring their employees strictly.
With this being a reference to the UFO endings in SH, it's a call back to the original series that only true fans would know. It's genius if you think about it. He basically killed 2 birds with one stone...
It can mean more than one thing :)
@@paragonjones13its a double edge sword
@@elementoon1651or a double sided dildo.
"our games must move from selling items to selling features" wow....... You really replaced one of the best game directors on Earth with this clown?
hearing those words piss me off so much. All games do now is sell an unfinished game at full retail price and expect us to pay more for the full game plus pay to win dlcs i hate where games are going right now
well, you just make more money when you try to trick people out of their money (all the fee2pay stuff) rather than trying to produce something you genuienly think is desireable for others and for yourself. Just compare the sucess of ads that create transparency about the products with those "say nothing so they can interpret everything" bullshit we get nowadays
The thing is Konami is so fucking greedy and blind to Gaming as an art and hobby that all they see is a bottom line and do not care what drivel they shit out, as long as it makes money. They are so blind they let an uncreative hack like Hayawaka literally make GAMBLING GAME. Dragon Collection is no more a game than a slot machine in a casino is a "game". All this "game" does is give people a way to gamble without feeling like they are "technically" gambling.
The thing is Konami is so fucking greedy and blind to Gaming as an art and hobby that all they see is a bottom line and do not care what drivel they shit out, as long as it makes money. They are so blind they let an uncreative hack like Hayawaka literally make a GAMBLING GAME. Dragon Collection is no more a game than a slot machine in a casino is a "game". All this "game" does is give people a way to gamble without feeling like they are "technically" gambling.
Corporate Japan is and has always been about maximizing profit by cutting cost. Literally all of the field of industrial engineering comes from the Toyota kata. It's spilled out into every continent and every company whether they admit it or not.
"...our games must move from selling things like 'items' to selling things like 'features.'" - Hayakawa
I hope their company burns to the ground.
We must steal their hearts.
@@somedudethatdoesthings8057 *IT'S NOT A GAME*
@@thewayfayer3268 their apps deserves to be pirated and modded to the ground.
@@somedudethatdoesthings8057 Okumura Palace, but in real life HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
consider it done
That 10 months back segment gave me absolute chills throughout my body at the realization. I heavily applaud you.
I think its a stretch. Lisa got a part-time job because her boss liked how she looked in a skirt. About 10 months back. Couple months later her boss knocked her up and he came to the realization it wasn't his and killed Lisa, the unborn bastard, and unfortunately the other child.
@@jpesicka999 lmao
@@jpesicka999you missed the point! That's the face value story not the subtext!
The "ten months back" line together with the brilliant editing with the building up music, give me goosebumps all over my body. Every. Single. Time.
I think Lisa got hired 10 months back because her boss liked how she looked in a skirt. She got knocked up by her boss and her husband killed her, the unborn bastard and unfortunately the other child.
@@jpesicka999 bro stop copying and pasting your comment
@@jpesicka999 do not care did not ask
I'm so happy I still have P.T. installed on my PS4. It's never coming off. It feels like I have a piece of game history in my possession.
There is actually an effective way to download PT still, through some sort of proxy server. Super easy to do, and I was able to do it on my system and a friend's. Only requirement, sadly, is that you have to have an account that had already downloaded it at one point.
@@DravenHazard I'm a noob about these things and i'm really afraid of doing this and risk my entire library.
@@DravenHazard Uhm isn't that the trick where it can possibly get you banned? If not then can you show me? I did manage to download it but I deleted it afterwards.
Make a clone of that hard disk. You never know.
Copy the installation to an external hard drive or two, and maybe back it up online after that in Dropbox. Do your part in preserving what may one day be emulated or further dissected
No wonder why kojima plastered his name all over MGSV, konami can't remove his name from the game
They'll find a way lmao
even he himself was in the game at some point
I think they just wanted him out. I'm sure he's a great fella, but I've worked Section G before. These creative guys cannot balance their checkbooks let alone keep within a film budget.
I still wish Konami hadn't gone all Mobile Apocalypse though.
@@deadpilled2942 What is Section G?
@@possiblyimpossible6156 Section G shuts down a production when a Hollywood budget goes out of control, and the filmmaker wont stop spending money, or acting out. It's mostly for international filming, but Josh Tranks 2014 Fantastic Four got it.
5 years later and people still talking about P.T
Edit: actually 5 years oh god
I was a senior in high school when P.T. came out. Now I'm turning 24. Time flies
I remember watching pewdiepie’s video of PT back when I was in middle school. I watched it again recently out of boredom and didn’t realize until then how long it’s been since PT came out
and your comment was exactly ten months back
@@Mordeaux :o
@@muadz6629 im graduating this year but when it came out i was in 7th grade
Making an entire game with hidden messages in another languages, a number presented as being random that actually represent one of the most important pieces and puzzles that to this very day people are trying to solve with the intention of avoiding an NDA is the most Kojima move there could ever be
Me five minutes ago or so: There’s literally no way Kojima KNEW he was heading out the door a year in advance.
Me now: Damn son.
Of course he did. After spending countless millions of dollars on MGSV and then the sales not returning probably a quarter of what it cost, it was obvious he'd get the boot.
Video games like MGSV with big Hollywood actors with brand new engines cost MONEY. Lots of it. There's a reason MGSV was also on PS3/360, because Konami was desperately worried about all the money he was spending, and knew that PS4/Xbone sales alone would not cover it.
@@adoatic2917 did you watch the entirety of the video? Kojima legit knew he would be fired before finishing MGSV, he knew it was the last game he would get to finish under Konami, im sure Konami even would of pulled the plug on the game if it was alot earlier into its development but at that point where they wanted him out, he was already really far into development that you might aswell just let him and his studio finish the game and make all the profit possible out of it.
The second they put him in that room I'm certain he knew where he stood. In Japan it is common practice to try and break a person by isolating them and giving them busy work. Other workers know you are being shamed and so they will avoid you as to not fall to the same fate. No one needs to talk to you as task can be delegated by e-mail and you are only to leave containment on breaks. It is considered bad practice to fire people and so companies try to get employees to leave and then the fault is put on the person who quit. In this instance he was under contract and so it was an attempt to embarrass him and not at all practical.
@@adoatic2917 even before that. he was EVP, he was in constant board meetings with people who hated him, and were very vocal about the fact that the only reason he was there was because he made a lot of money back in the day.
the real question, if kojima could have gotten his head out of his own chosen one myth and not been fired, could he have saved konami before it became a mobile slot studio.
@@NoESanity Imagine MGS V came out on time and was highly profitable. Does that mean people interested in maximizing profit and who clearly don't care about artistic integrity wouldn't move towards the highly profitable garbage mobile game genre? I doubt it would have impacted the direction of the company at all. What it might have allowed was for Konami to have one good franchise putting out new games. But frankly if that's all we'd get it's better that good franchise be independent like it is now anyways. At least then it's not subject to the pressures of people who will compare it's profitability to selling actual garbage.
It's nuts how he managed to get those 3 supposedly in on it to help with P.T. Riht under konami's nose. A real life MGS mission
jase276 Nice.
And the those three in particular, based on previous experience, are EXACTLY the type of mad bastard-balls-to-the-wall-creative genius I would bet money on doing it. ESPECIALLY Norman. He is very much (from what I've seen of him)a fuck the system, rebellious type who would lose shit over hearing how konami was trying to fuck over the pure creative puppy that is Kojima-san. Srsly, "soul warriors" like... Omg that is the purest thing and must be protect, XD
It's surreal imagining Kojima having the "dude, im probably getting fired" talk with some huge celebrities, like, the talk a lot of us has had with our friends while having a couple of beers.
we all know snake is the real kojima! from this day forth i will refuse to buy another mgs title, until kojima makes his own spiritual successor to the series!
@@Atamosk-bu7zt just outright boycott kucknami altogether
fuck them
I remember the first time i saw Pewdiepie react to the swedish radio monologue for the first time. He looked so horrified, and i couldn't understand why until now.
Just watched him play! His reaction was awesome to see.
The fake game “Metal Gear Solid Touch” could also be a reference to the mobile route that Konami was taking
OK, I'm not 100% on all the specifics of the symbolism, but Kojima getting put under house arrest because he had his team release an unauthorised teaser for a game he knew he wouldn't get to create, after learning that his employers were going to fire him, and using that teaser to suggest that their "family business" was like an abusive father that lives off his partner's debasement and then kills his children before they can truly live... fascinating!
It’s understandable why the higher-ups would drop him from the company, but it’s still really shady and dirty how they did it. But yeah, I’m glad Kojima is able to freely do games now the way he wants to.
@Mr. Reality Kojima is an artist, and Konami just wants to see the money. Sadly, more and more game companies are going through the route of mobile and micro transactions, so the artist of this industry are not welcome anymore. That doesn't makes kojima an angel, but he got kicked out because they didn't cared for him and his projects. He worked there for a LOT of time, and it was all scraped away in a moment by greed. They both suck TBH but kojima just trolled everyone
@Mr. Reality Kid, you're all over these comments saying "it's all Kojima's fault". Maybe you're legit or maybe you're just trying to start shit, idk. In any case, it's kind of ridiculous to see how the execs at Konami acted and treated the employees and say they were completely innocent. It goes both ways.
Kojima went overboard with the spending, sure. But that money was going into literally the biggest title that Konami has ever published that was also a sequel to their most prominent legacy franchise. And it wasn't even just going into the game itself, it was going into an entirely new and impressive engine that they could start using for all sorts.
Then there's also the fact that Kojima had been trying to separate himself from the MGS franchise forever but Konami pretty much wouldn't let him work on anything else since they knew the MGS brand would make money.
Kojima spending all that time and money is understandably frustrating, and I'm not at all a fan of how David Hayter was treated. However, none of that justifies Konami essentially trying to force Kojima to quash his creativity because other avenues make more money, Konami cancelling his projects, removing his name and his legacy, the surveillance, confinement and mistreatment of employees, the firing and non-compete clause, the bad word and references made to ruin careers, the not allowing Kojima to accept awards for MGSV, etc.
If you are honestly of the mindset that some poor decision making from Kojima deserved all of that, then you really should re-evaluate how you approach this kind of stuff lmao.
@@amarntsitran3406 like, seriously. This kid needs to stfu
@@amarntsitran3406 He's a child, his brain isn't developed enough to understand things like nuance or the fact that everyone in a situation like this is partialy to blame.
P.T. was just Kojima’s final message to the man who sold the world...
@Poly I never lost control.
@@joshuawiseman9045 You face to face with the man who sold the world.
@@joshuawiseman9045 if only your name was Weissman
@@msmr7283 With the man who sold the world
@@salvatoredanunciacao7770 TA TA TA TA TARARARA
when the lizzard in the sink said "exactly ten months back" bro i got even more drastic chills than five years ago
😂😂 lmao "lizard"
Essentially even the core gameplay mechanic is a testament to the house that is Konami. The same hallway normal at first, slowly regressing into a madhouse. Each time it gets less and less stable. The endless loop representing how Konami is not interested in doing anything original or new to break the mold and is content to just continue the endless cycle of pay to play mobile games. To someone like Kojima such a reality would be it’s own form of horror.
You know, the cancellation of Silent Hills is really depressing. What could've been an amazing horror game yet managed to scare so many within only 30 minutes, imagine what a full 10+ hour game could achieve... it left a hole in so many in us... But.. After watching this, after seeing the dots being connected, after seeing what the hidden meaning could be behind this teaser.. I feel that the hole that's been opened for years has finally closed.
At long last, 5 years later after P.T took the world by storm, and 4 years after it was cancelled.. I feel that I can live with it being canned now knowing what may be the full story behind it. At long last...
closure..
Shawn?
I totally agree with you. This does feel like closure to such a disappointment
I think PT wasnt a game at all i think its just a weapon to fight back konami
Shon Bera if he made it into a full silent hill game 4 real it will be much scarier imagine walking through those nurses and the foggy environment
Yep I finally feel fixed cause phantom Paine sucking murdered me and PT was a huge huge shame
That "Exactly ten months back" line sent chills up my spine. Amazing video dude
I HAD EXACTLY THE SAME REACTION! I'm glad someone said it!
Me too lol
the eiditing was fucking on point on this one ye
I literally said OMG! Out loud when it happened!
ME TOO!!
"we will aggressively pursue mobiles. we must shift from selling things like items to selling things like features"
pain.
A phantom one at that, for it wounds the soul.
Rewatching this again in 2023 and seeing the current state of gaming (outside of some prized gems like Elden Ring, Baldurs Gate etc) Seeing the passion disappear in favor of cash grabs, and people just eating it up is so sad.
It’s sad because so much of the triple a landscape is dominated by these games that follow a template and take zero risks.
I’m not religious or anything but greed is a sin for a reason
What goes around, comes around
"Money is the root of all evil." - 1 Timothy 6:10
@@superpan218 and a root of happiness
Superpan21 it’s the * LOVE of money, not just money itself
Kojima is also greedy as fuck for spending millions of dollar on his "masterpiece". If he can make masterpiece with just thousands of dollars, it would have been fine.
I imagine Kojima would shed a tear watching this. I hope he has.
@Mr. Reality holy shit, want to comment this 1000 more times?
@Mr. Reality Yeah how He dare to think about us gamers, instead of making money.F#@*Ing communist
@Mr. Reality Nice try, Kagemasa. We already got you figured out.
@Mr. Reality You're not just wrong, you're stupid. Konami is a very shitty game development company that doesnt know jack shit about marketing. They threw away Silent Hills because "it wouldnt sell enough" while it was already the most downloaded demo on the entire PS Store. It was literally considered as the scariest game in the world and they just tossed that shit along with Hideo Kojima. Blame them
Ridiculed Victor yeah I’m curious too. Like damn you guys got him so hard he felt so much shame he deleted his comment.
Dude this sort of sabotage, underlying message, success to failure to second success whole thing should be made into a movie!
Or a game
I didn't realize that Kojima could become even more solidified in my mind as a great guy. He's a fucking genius, but he's a down to earth one. I can't imagine not having infinite respect for him.
The Funny thing...
No one care's about Konami today...
But Kojima...
Oh boy, let's wait for the launch of Death Strandling.
Konami who? lol
death stranding is gonna be a walking simulator
konami don't care they just need to get money to the shareholders doing pretty good at that now
@@MasonMillerKingofCaturday
Death Stranding is the intro to Silent Hills.
I mean, honestly, fuck Konami, but Kojima needed them. Death Stranding is going to be a garbage fire.
Well that explains why Snake's symbol is not "Kojima Productions" anymore but "!" instead in Super Smash Bros Ultimate.
480+ LIKES?! WHAT?! Not as much as most other people here but still.
damn that likes was "666" 0_0 omg
I heard that sound effect when I saw the “!”
Seems that the (technical) final line of P.T. being "This game is a teaser, it has no direct relation to the main title" might have been a bit closer to the truth than most people imagined.
In MGSV there’s also the 204863 tape and the sign that says 204863 in a different order. Kojima basically leaving his mark in his own game he lost credit for
'... but guess what. I'll be coming back' ["Hello. I'm back" - at Sony's E3 conference]
'and I will be bringing my new toys with me' [the Decima Engine]
@Daniel Brito why does it link?
@Daniel Brito oh right, thanks for the answer
@Daniel Brito I actually read somewhere that Decima was a first ambassador harbor city in collaboration between Japan and Netherlands (Guerilla Games made the engine mostly, and they are a Dutch developer team). I think Kojima himself told this somewhere in his Twitter once.
“He couldn’t even be original about the way he did it” referring to how the company he had been devoted to for 27 years just tossed him away for money reasons, man Kojima is a legend
On the one hand, this is absolutely insane.
On the other hand, it's Kojima.
idk why the utuber didnt give any credit, this PT subliminal message was solved 3 years ago. Is it because there are less uploads about this? Pfft.
20 mnts of proof here:
th-cam.com/video/xbr_vyayk2E/w-d-xo.html
Looking back, this is truly both heartbreaking and heartwarming to see a human being as passionate, good-willed and creative as Kojima having to go on this journey and path. They effectively took everything from him, his child MGS. This video is a rollercoaster of emotions and i‘m truly thankful to having been able to experience this video!
No other theory regarding P.T. has ever made this much sense. At this point I can’t see it as anything but the truth.
It hurts because if it is true, Kojima has no way of confirming it.
"Exactly ten months back." *shivers*
No joke!
I could see an anime clip of me remembering that through a fish eye lens like in horror shows.
Hey, it's exactly ten months back for your comment now!
Every time I watch this... It gets me pumped that someone could be that creatively vindictive and being justified for it.
22:13 BTW "Lisa" means "Fox" in Russian. Coincidence?
You're acctually right. hahahaha
Fox Engine!
I was leaning towards thinking of Lisa as the Metal Gear Series, partnered with Konami, and then they rebranded it into a microtransaction zombie game, hence her "working a cash register" only because she "looked good," and her being undead as an extra nod to the zombies, but this has me reconsidering her as the Fox engine. Perhaps she represents both?
I assumed it was related to the random person named Lisa Fox but there is more layer to that as well. lol
Except it's not
I'd also like to say that Del Toro also has a lot of father related themes in his movies. Hellboy and Pan's Labyrinth are good examples.
This..is really beautiful actually. holy shit Kojima. I believe it.
19:00 "You seem to enjoy Hideo Kojima games" was not just a line made up for Ground Zeroes. In the Japanese version of Metal Gear Solid 1, if you had save data from Snatcher and Policenauts on your memory card, Psycho Mantis will say this and it will trigger a voice-only cameo from Kojima himself where says "Thank you for your support" (exactly what he says in Ground Zeroes).
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This line was replaced and Kojima's cameo was removed, since the PS1 versions of Snatcher and Policenauts were never localized.
Johnny Undaunted thanks for the video link and timestamp to the Japanese version!
a true hero in the comments
As soon as I thought "P.T. is about Kojima being fired" I immediately thought it made sense, because P.T.'s whole thing of going through a looping hall and having little things change and slowly get creepier and creepier could be a metaphor for Kojima going through his regular everyday routine, going to work like normal and slowly things start going south at konami until eventually he gets fired. Even the player getting killed and starting the loop again could be a metaphor for Kojima getting fired and still having to come into work.
That makes a lot of sense.
28:16 "we are homo"
It all makes sense now
Ahahhahahah 😆😆😆😆😆
FuckHideoandKonami
I really do hope the ideas Kojima and Del Toro exchanged about a horror game will come out one day
maybe they're working in that right now
dont we all, it could take as long as a decade, but i think chances, something will come to fruition
I would love to see a movie about this honestly. Had that whole corruption, underdog, stand up to the man, sorta thing. Would make one hell of a film
The underdog that was really the alpha male all along
I just only imagine Kojima never giving a direct biography film the green light. It's too literal for him; he loves conveying messages through imagery and metaphor so much that I'm sure he wouldn't want something giving the blatant true story.
David Fincher could probably do it justice.
A movie about a man who wastes company dollars on a video game all while acting like the king of a castle, who then gets mad that the company found it more beneficial to cut him out.
Yeah, a great film.
@@Commodore22345 you seem upset buddy
Makes sense too that Reedus was walking AWAY at the end of PT...he was walking to Kojima
"I can hear them calling to me from hell" followed by an almost mocking laughter, as if it's the higher ups of Konami as they're telling him he's being fired, or laughing behind his back. Maybe that's a reach, but that puzzle always stood out to me as a bit odd and I'm wondering if that can be connected to this theory too or if it has no deeper meaning.
That, and the "You've been chosen" line could also be a message meant for the people who joined Kojima in his exit of the company.
When I see the new Silent Hill 2 remake trailer of James walking down the road all I can think is ”he couldn’t even be original about the way he did it.”
"Death Stranding" would be the most metal break up album tbh.
It would have a black and white photo of dead whales and fish as the cover.
Alright lemme get my distortion pedal
Alright i do the death growls
Five years later and we finally have closure. This was an excellent video and I'm amazed at how well-researched each part was, and the fact that everything just makes complete sense. The TGS trailer was definitely for the originally-planned Kojima-made Silent Hill game, but P.T was never meant to be that Silent Hill game. P.T was, as you said, a clever NDA workaround that Kojima made to reveal everything as if he himself was trapped in Silent Hill (Konami).
neek. Dude, still... Imagine what that Silents Hills would’ve been. Hideo and Guillermo’s mind into the game
Sᴛʀᴇss_ Fʀᴇᴇ_Rᴀfʏ yooo, i know!! it really would’ve been a return to form for the series and probably would’ve been comparable to the original 3 or 4 (depending on ur view of sh4)
i literally cried when it was cancelled
speedingchimps okay, mood. lmaooo
This man is such a legend he literally made an iconic game into an exposé.
youre the exact type of person id commit hate crimes against lol
Lol that "Most replayed" bump on the progress bar is perfect, that build up to the ten months ago line is so well done, every time I'm like "Get the fuck outta here, no way"
😂
Now this is an actual SH/Kojima conspiracy theory I can get behind! Mind blown. Wonderful video Bob! :D
Would you actually refer to this as a "theory" though? I mean, it's certainly not a conspiracy theory. But I would say that unlike his Death Stranding videos, it appears that there are far too many "coincidences" stacked on top one another to be anything but pure fact. I personally don't waste much if any time on theories without researching the facts, but it appears this man has taken care of that for us. There's not really much more to say on the matter after it's been so well spelled out for us, is there? Not saying I'm right, just that this is absolutely the way I'm seeing it.
@@CabezasDePescado dude...it's an inside joke between me and Bob given all the Kojima DS is really Silent Hills stuff on reddit. I think it's a great theory.
@@Memnoch_the_Devil I was just joking with Bob by saying "conspiracy theory" I think it's solid.
Whitney Plays ah, i see. I was unsure how serious you were so I tried to emphasize my point in the form of a genuine question as opposed to a trolling attack on your intelligence lol
Dude, this cospiracy was old.. i mean it was solved like years ago..
th-cam.com/video/xbr_vyayk2E/w-d-xo.html
Companies start with passion, grow with greed, and die with greed.
@Caio Coelho uh, yeah they will. If they keep on pumping out trash then the fans will soon get sick of them
@Caio Coelho look at Bethesda. No one gives shit about them anymore after fallout 76
Except for poor pandemic studios, being bought out by the monster that is EA after making the only two good battlefront games
@@KidsWithGuns1992 Same with CDPR
Holy shit, watching all this after playing Death Stranding....
Yeah, all of this makes so much sense all of the sudden! I mean listen to 27:59 this fits perfectly with timefalls in the death stranding game!
@@MFLP1998 the concept of Homo Ludens was part of Death Stranding lore as well so it makes sense that the statement was a precursor tied into DS
PT will go down in history as one of the most important games of all time - not the least because of how drastically it has inspired and revolutionized single player horror in the years since. Entire studios have built their careers on PT-like games, and though it was removed from the Playstation store, dedicated fans have worked hard to recreate the entire game in Unreal.
Am I the only one who had chills to understand what the fetus in the sink meant?
Dude, that hit like a truck.
Amazing job!
it was the perfect delivery of infomation
Rodrigo Espindola What‘s the song in the background at 11:50?
real madrid Darude - Sandstorm
@@realmadrid-cx8yd lights out - tru genesis
bro i had chills throughout this hole fucking video lmao this blew my mind
Konami: "He played us like a DAMN FIDDLE!"
Kojima working in Konami: "Why am I still here?, just to suffer!"
And Konami won't admit it. Ever.
"We live and die by your order Boss!"
-Konami staffs who secretly put KJP 4EVER easter egg in Survive.
What maddens me (if this is true) is Konami had this literal gold mine of mobile games, gacha, pachinko etc. But rather than use that as a cushion to help arguably the most important creative person in their history, they chose that as a baseline for how profitable any project they did should be. Kojima shouldn't have been squeezed out since his work was relatively expensive - he should have been given the time and money to be able to develop MGS5 and Silent Hills precisely *_because_* Konami was raking it in elsewhere.
Hideo "I feel im charged" kojima
At the start of the video I was like “this dudes totally reaching there’s no way” but by the end my jaw was dropped. You have certainly convinced me. Very well done video. Mr Kojima would be very proud.
He used a struggling marriage turned violent as a metaphor for his pain
LJK401 he’s a genius
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 He didn't played down the trauma of such marriage in my opinion. First being forced to make more sequels, then locked in a room to finish the last one they want after being told to piss off as soon as possible. The live he has been familiar with for 27 years destroyed and he can't even talk about what happened because of inhumane contracts. That's all painful stuff.
@@justalostlocal I wasn't judging him, I was just saying it plainly
Also Castlevania
The "Ten months back" part was such a good fucking moment. Amazing video! I never would have thought of it this way.
Having Kojima, del Toro, and Ito Junji on this project was absolutely perfect. But of course, we can't have nice things all the time.
that's fcking perfect line up to create best horror game of all time and yeah konami fk it up
This is so well thought out and literally air tight. Great references, sources, and timeline as well as execution. Respect.
My favorite parts in this was the "ten months back" reveal and the "call from Konami HQ in Japan" part. That was grim af. Excellently done.
I think its a stretch. The boss hired Lisa 10 months back because he liked how she looked in a skirt. Lisa got knocked up by her boss and that's why her husband killed her and the bastard child. The other child died as a result of the dad losing his mind, but I think it was showing the realization he made. IDK about this deeper meaning stuff.
@@jpesicka999 “exactly 10 months back” doesn’t imply anything directly about her pregnancy because she would have gotten pregnant almost any time in those 10 months. So it should have said, if that was the intended meaning, “about 10 months back.” The fetus was at most probably 4 or 5 months old, so there would have been six months of her working before getting pregnant. If it was “exactly 5 months back,” I would agree.
I just hope that if Death Stranding is successful enough, Kojima, Del toro, and Junji Ito will make a horror game together. I get that Del toro said that he would never work on another game again, but hopefully Kojima lights that fire once more.
Yea, same. I'm interested in buying Death Stranding for PC when it comes out (I don't have a Playstation, lol).
Sadly, good art isn't often profitable. The art gains value after the artist dies.
They are already making the a new horror game/movie. I have been seeing a lot of Twitter post by kojima watching horror movies. Old horror movies. That bastard is upto something. Maybe for the new play station.
If anyone can get Del Toro to go back to games, it’ll be Kojima.
death stranding sold 3 million copies, it is a success
So one of the greatest psychological horror games of all time was basically an enormous masked FU from Hideo Kojima to Konami :mind blown:
Kojima: A man constantly playing 4d chess.
I don’t remember what mobile game I played 3 years ago....
I still remember mgs 3
I finished MGS1 7 times ....5 on the same day...
Game companies don't see games as works of interactive art they see them as a product. That's the problem that all artists face, regardless of where they are and what kind of art they produce.
This has the energy of a true crime doc.
It definitely feels like one of the biggest crimes in video game history
I have a newfound respect for Hideo Kojima
You NEED to follow up on this with a full Death Stranding analysis!!!
"Reunion with my soul warriors"
Straight up anime 😂
This is just like one of my Japanese animes!
Would love to see an anime with all of them in it, no joke. I'd watch it
I always wondered why P.T. had such a different style compared to traditional Silent Hill and now it all makes perfect sense
I can't get over my head the passage showing all the way to the release of PT and that "exactly ten months back" brilliant editing for sure
I don't know why but I often find myself coming back to this video whenever I'm depressed. I guess kojima giving the m finger to Konami is so satisfying to see and also the editing is really good.
It makes sense now! Omfg, also, in the dialogue when it says “dad was such a drag”, the ending of it is “I will be back and I’m bringing new toys with me” possibly referencing with his connections along with making his own studio!
Kojima Productions has existed since at least MGS3
@@AenemicTOOL
It's a different studio with the same name. The old one was owned by Konami but they don't own his name so he just used the same name, hence "coming back."
As a game engineer in Japan: I feel like this is not a Konami thing, but a Japan thing. I've seen very similar scenarios play out at a company I worked for, which is basically the biggest game middleware provider in Japan.
DasAntiNaziBroetchen the name tho😆
@Qimodis E A shall I say more?
Crunch culture is expected everywhere in Japan. Cost of living is high and the stressful culture of funneling creative talent into these studios is a norm.
It helps a lot to understand this situation when you know the culture of working in a company in Japan. It's very different than over here, and even we would still feel very betrayed in Kojima's position. The cultural context is what makes the story of Kojima at Konami so hostile.
It is something that really needs to change in Japan. Life is too short for such a stressful way of working
Konami's philosophy: Quantity > Quality
The amount of research that went into producing this video is beyond my comprehension, but fan-tastic job!! I enjoyed every. single. second. I was in such joy watching this engaging, thought-provoking piece. You easily deserve praise, well-done sir!!