2023 Ford Super Duty 6.8L V8 Vs 7.3L V8: Which Is Better?
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- Today I compare a 2023 Ford Super Duty 6.8L V8 to a 2023 Ford Super Duty 7.3L V8!
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I guess the 7.3 gas V8
Appreciate the informative content that not many other places are providing Ben
The new 6.8 L V8 is fundamentally a more racy motor, as it the same cylinder bore with .300 less stroke, and has slightly higher compression at 10.8 : 1 vs. 10.5 : 1 on the 7.3 L.
I have a feeling this is going to be great for tuners and the hot rod aftermarket.
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8p8
@@garysessoms9861 ; I don't need to know 8p8 permutations for bore spacing and oversquare ratios.
I’ve noticed that on the Harley 107 vs 114. The 107 is quicker to rev and off the line faster. But the 114 when weighted down with a passenger and gear moves just as quick as when empty. The 107 feels more sluggish when weighted down. Extra displacement from bore vs stroke is definitely different. Me personally, I think I prefer over square engines.
@@mannyzx1 One would think that 7 cubic inches would not make much of a difference.
@@spaceflight1019 30 not 7
Both are good for different appliactions. I'm excited for the wrecked motors that'll come out of these rigs.
ICE engines win. EVs are good for little cars driving around town less than 100 miles. Actual work trucks can’t run on electricity alone
Yeah, I’m looking forward to the Ram EV but EV trucks in general are a hard sell for people who buy trucks for towing and hauling.
@@GWN_Garage the time it takes to charge huge batteries on a large truck would make businesses lose a lot of money. Imagine having to haul something from one place to another during the day and having to stop what you’re doing for 5-6 hours to charge the battery. It’s not sustainable
Just buy a diesel and you'll have a real truck
Evs suck
Locomotives are electric! The drive Motors are electric. The diesel engines run generators. It’s basically an electric transmission.
The thing is, the energy density of batteries is nowhere near that of fossil fuels.
What does make sense are hybrid vehicles like the F150 Powerboost. Don’t need to run the engine on downhill grades, in parking lots, at stoplights, plus a little extra oomph on takeoff.
I can't wait for the 6.8 swap videos to come.
I'd choose both of these engines now Ben.
Did you mention the gear ratios? That would probably have biggest impact on fuel economy.
They’re the same for 7.3 and 6.8
@@francesco1998 Does the 6.8L get at least 1 MPG better than 7.3L?
@@waltchan
Super Duties’ MPGs aren’t rated by the EPA. But I’d imagine yeah because it’s a smaller displacement engine making less power and torque.
I immediately though that.
I just bought one, a supercab 373 axle 6.8L v8.F 350, 18mpg at 60, 16mpg at 70mph and 12 at 80mph, intown high11`s to low 12`s. This is my 4th f-series ford and I lke it the best so far. I`ve had a 78 F150 cleveland 400 stick tranny, a 7.3L 1986 F250 gasser MPG no matter how you drove it. a 1996 F250 diesel that got 25 mpg highway untill they took the sulfer out of the fuel, then it went to 12mpg. city and 16 highway. It does sound cool and I was surprised at it`s accelleration, fastest one I`ve owned with out tuning it, which I`ll not do this time
That’s better than my 2012 F150 5.0L. Not by a tremendous amount but still. That’s impressive
@@WillfulTangentMedia-fn2tp Now that I`ve got 3300 miles on it I`ve noticed a big difference in mileage depending on whose gas I used. the cheap gas at BJ`s. 30 cents a gallon cheaper gets 3 MPG less. Sunoco is best
Just bought a xlt 6.8 373 ratio electronic locking axle. Xlt premium package, black appearance package, fx4
20 inch black wheels and all terrain tires. Bed step
Factory bedliner box lighting 360 cameras and
LED headlamps and rest of lights are led . Power mirrors folding and telescoping. So far I love it
500 miles on it now. I’m hoping it gets better fuel mileage than 7.3. I didn’t need the 7.3 I just pull a bass boat and wanted weight of 250 vs a half ton and no start stop.
Oh it’s a 2024
@@winstonrocco1981 My gas mileage I wrote about was on flat ground here in florida and on cruise control, I couldn`t get those numbers with My foot
@@edpetrocelli2633
Well just made a 450 trip to west Texas and got almost 16 mpg at 69 to 75 mph I was varying my speed just to break it in hot 900 miles on it now
How can you get an accurate mpg rating in a 3.1 mile test run? Miss a couple signals could drop the mpg 25% and vice versa.
Yeah the mpg test is 100% pointless lol
College isn't what it used to be. This is what you get 🤷
Hardly a video on this 6.8. Glad you mention towing numbers on them. Can you get the off-road package with the stx package?
The gas mileage is better than that, I’m getting 15.4 with my 22 7.3 on the gauge so even if it’s 2 miles per gallon less it’s still 3 miles per gallon better than that.
He doesn't know that engine warmup burns a ton of fuel and that short trips are useless for mpg measurements
I have the 7.3L and I love it.
I have a 1999 7.3 an love it
@@Cov930 Is yours the diesel. Here we are discussing the new-for-2020 Ford 7.3L Godzilla (gas) engine in the 2020 and up Super Duty pickup trucks.
What rear ends were in those two trucks? How many miles did you drive to obtain the MPG?
Ty for sharing, as always content is greatly appreciated... gotta admit I knew the mpg was gonna be bad but that hurts ... lol ... kool truck, still hate ford for skimping on underbody armor specially for areas that get snow but kool truck ...
Do the lifter problems exist on the 6.8?
Which gears did each come with?
It’s amazing that almost 50 years later the MPG hasn’t improved. I bought a E250 with 460, 3 speed automatic, brand new in 1975. I used it to tow my race car around the country. It didn’t matter if I towed or was van only, the MPG was 10. That was a carbureted engine with virtually no electronic systems other then ignition. One would think with fuel injection and better atomization of the fuel you would see a significant improvement.
my father had a 1997 f350 crew cab 4x4 with a 460 and a 5-speed manual, from the dealership it got 10mpg.. we replaced the exhaust after the cat with a 3" high-flow muffler and single 3 inch tailpipe and it got 14mpg after that. the big problem with new trucks is that they are fat and overweight, much heavier than older trucks.
@@marzsit9833 Ford killed the best engine they ever put in a truck. 7.3 diesel. I had a '99 with 2" lift/level kit and 35s and it got 19-20 on the highway, 16 to 18 in city driving in Philthadelphia and pulling a 6-7000lb trailer 17mpg at 65 and 70mph. Couple buddies that were Ford mechanics said Ford saying they replaced it because of emissions was bullshit, they replaced it cause it Never came in for repairs. I put 40k miles on it and the Gal I sold it to has put some 250k more on it and most of that pulling an 11k trailer and has never had to do anything to the engine but change filters and oil.
In 1975 you where getting around 5 mpg. This 2023 will get 15mpg on highway np
@@rontopping2048 not even close. It was a solid 10 mpg. Not sure where you came up with 5 mpg.
@rontopping2048 ask of the old big blocks got a consistent 10mpg. I've owned Cadillac 472, Chevy 454 and Ford 460. 10mpg empty, loaded, or drop it off a cliff.
You can't replace displacement for best low end torque required for HD work
I think I'd like to know what the fuel economy differences during a towing load for example to a trailer. That's shaped like a barn door kind of like the trailer's most contractors use that weighs about ten thousand pounds
I pull a 41 foot 5th wheel weighs 15,000 lbs, I get 8 miles a gallon. That being said I have a 7.3 Godzilla Tremor package with 430 gears it pulls great
@@BIGWOOD3160 Thank you I appreciate that
A wash, I think, if you go the same speed. Here’s why:
1. On the flats, less than full throttle, the 6.8 would do better due to higher compression ratio and smaller displacement. Higher combustion temps = more efficiency.
2. In the hills the 7.3 would do better IF you use a use a slightly higher rear end gear ratio to deliver the same power at the same road speed with lower engine speed. Or with the same rear end ratio at the same speed, the 7.3 would have the pedal slightly off the floor, resulting in better efficiency because gasoline cars are programmed to run fuel rich at heavy throttle settings to reduce combustion temperatures and reduce NOx production.
Bottom line, if you’re going to tow heavy or have a lead foot, get the 7.3. Otherwise get the 6.8
@Edward Howard good way to think about this. Thanks Tony
I know it's tough, but gear ratios are important in these tests. Don't compare the performance of these with a 3.73 ram unless the Ford is in a similar ratio. Folks seem to forget that rear end gear ratios are just as important as hp and tq. Much like they forget that payload will always limit the tow numbers...towing 21k pounds would equate to ~ 3150lbs of payload used of you want to be truly safe and within the limits of your truck.
I was just scrolling through the comments to highlight your points on the gear ratios as well. If he’s talking about tire tread and air dams making a big enough impact on fuel economy to note them, but this could be a 3.31 versus a 4.3… useless test without this information.
I would go with the 6.8, it's more than enough for me towing 6-8k lbs, 2-3x per week delivering parts to paint and body shops and mechanics in the west Texas area traveling roughly 280 miles per day x5, I currently have a 19 ram 1500 that I recently purchased in October 2022 with 8600 original miles and since then I've just hit 47k miles, however, I would get the longer bed and extended range fuel tank on the 6.8, also my truck is my daily driver, it's all about a combo of necessity and preference, I'd have to weigh the cost difference between an XLT w/6.8 over the same with 7.3 🤷♂️
Don't underestimate a 3.5 ecoboost f150. They pull like diesels and get 20+ mpg when driven lightly. They are a lot more affordable to buy and cheaper to own than a super duty truck.
I've towed with 5.7 hemi trucks before and currently own a 2019 3.5 ecoboost f150 with the max tow package, rated for 12,800lbs. The 3.5 is a FAR better towing experience. Not just the power, but the suspension and stability, too. Like most people, I don't like to hear the engine scream at 5k+ rpm when pulling up hills. The ecoboost just hums up the hill at 3-4k, not struggling a bit. The powerband is very broad and it doesn't need to rev high to make big power.
@@Brandon_Nelson92 As a current owner of a 2019 Expedition, I can confidently say I will never own another 3.5EB. Been in the shop many times and still goes into limp mode every other month. I used it to tow a SxS and camping supplies from OK to CO and it got like 9mpg and struggled with overheating even on the flatland. Absolute garbage engine and I just don’t understand why people like it unless it’s just Blue Oval fan boys. Full disclosure, I like Ford, especially the SD but that ecoboost is trash.
@farmerbyron1 it sucks that you've had those issues with your 3.5. I'd be upset, too. My 3.5 has been drama-free so far, fortunately.
As far as overheating, ford re-designed the thermostat. It was discovered that some of the original 2nd gen 3.5 thermostats get stuck and don't open all the way, especially after having the engine worked on.
I know a few people that completely fixed their overheating issues with a new t-stat. They were regularly seeing 240+ coolant temps when towing heavy. After installing the new design t-stat, they almost never exceed 220.
With these prices none of them r good enough trucks
Aluminum "super duty"
For real.
We will never see the lower prices of the old day you will never be able to buy a new car or truck for the prices like 2000 dollars so I'm fine with the price of newer vehicles it's never going to get better the sooner you get at ease with that the better you will get over it and you can't buy property cheap either so get on with the world its not the 1920s anymore
@@stevenhooten4275 its not smart to accept everything that greedy manufacturers r pushing on us !!we the people control the market !!if we dont buy prices will go down
Just don’t buy it all trimmed up. I got a base f250 with Stx package, fx4, 6.2/6 speed extended cab long bed for a good price. Especially compared to the fancy bells and whistled models bused diesels going for 10-20k more than my new model. If you run a business the expense is more justifiable. If you don’t run a business, probably don’t need the truck or the payment
For anyone wondering about real fuel economy ratings not an 8 minute drive… I did 140 miles yesterday on eco mode, with cruise set at 70 in my 7.3, no trailer just a straight up highway run and got 17.3mpg. In the city so far it has not dipped below 14.5
Better than my tundra
Cool, my cummins gets 25 and can actually get out of its own way
@@wizard_of_poz4413 its a fiat man
@@TheAnnoyingBoss lol fr
@@wizard_of_poz4413 Most smart people DONT WANT A DIESEL! The new ones are unreliable pieces of junk. And if you have an old Cummins, that means the rest of the truck has disintegrated. If you haven’t driven a new 7.3, you have no room to talk. They are plenty fast and tow great. Not as good as a diesel, but plenty good for most people.
What are the gear ratios?
I have a 6.8 from 2003, still runs strong!
@ 7:21 @ 11:21 It looks like *you measured fuel economy over a distance of 3.1 miles* ...is that correct?
Honestly, I really liked the 6.2 SOHC they had in the older generation super duty’s… 2019 and older. I had a 2017 model with the 6.2 and 3.73 rear end, and for me it was excellent. I wish I hadn’t traded it. On a long trip I would consistently average 16-17mpg and around the house I’d average about 14 mpg. and it had more than enough torque for just about any job I needed to get done. I hope the 6.8 proves to be a good one. I’m excited about it. I’ll miss the 6.2. It wasn’t everyone’s favorite but I will always be a fan of that one.
The 6.2 was reliable and made good power. Whats not to like?
The 6.2 is a bit sluggish though
I’m looking into getting a later model F350 with a 6.2, is it really a good motor? I don’t need diesel power anymore as well as the maintain along with it
@@jedzcutz8921depends on gearing
@@jedzcutz8921 In comparison to what? The PowerStroke maybe, but it spanked GM's 6.6L gas V8 and the 6.4L Hemi in The Fast Lane trucks tests a few years ago.
Fuel mileage on a 3.1 mile loop is meaningless. And the dash estimate can easily be off by 10% or more. You need to drive at least 300 miles and measure the actual fuel used to be close to accurate.
Ben, what rear end gear ratio was in the xlt to xl? Now I understand it's the same engine, the 6.8 being destroyed, if you bought for the long run, may last longer. Can you get the 6.8 with 4.3 gears?
Gear Ratio options are determind by engine choice and should not be affected by the different trim levels.
Yes - you can order 3.73 or 4.30 rear gears with the 6.8
One thing good is that Ford went back to the pushrod engine with 2 valves per cylinder. It is not economical, nor is it modern. It is straight forward and tried and true. Been about 30 years
And for a pushrod engine they are very efficient and they are insanely overbuilt
Maybe they should go back to those engines on all the efforts. Because they're doing really bad
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The difference between 10 and 11mpg is a much higher percentage when the mpg is that low to begin with. Over 100k miles at $4.50 a gallon that’s over $4,000 in fuel savings. In a fleet that can make a huge difference!
That short section of the Interstate is fairly bumpy. It's a good on the road test for the ride of HD trucks. Thx.
Seems like the 6.8 has a kinda high pitch rumble and the 7.3 rumble is low.
Is there a way you can order a 6.8 with the 10 speed?
These 6.8’s with turbos from wrecked trucks are going to be the new junkyard Ls
Car brain says 6.8 but nerd brain wants the engine named Godzilla lol
Re-wording your summary. If you put the pedal to the floor with the 6.8 while driving the 7.3 kinda reasonably the 6.8 will still get better mpg.
Pulling very likely the same weight, both engines using the same block the 6.8 with less stroke more compression versus the 7.3 with more stroke and a bit less compression should be close. Wish Ford would bring back 300CID . Pull quite well, bullet proof and Ford stopped producing this straight six because they would not die. A lot of the F-250 trucks even extended cab 4X4 had this engine. Was not a firecracker by any means, pulled like a tractor and got the job done. The 300CID was the most reliable engine Ford has ever made
It used to be the grille was bigger than the headlamps, but now look. What's next?
What was the rear axle ratio on both trucks? That has an impact on fuel economy, too
He's not a truck guy
To get the lowest priced 6.8, in the XL compared to the cheapest way to get 7.3........The 6.8 IS the WInner since you have to pay thousands to "upgrade' to the 7.3
I saw that too in build and price. It wasn’t like that until they brought in the 6.8. More ways to get more
Money out of us I’m sure
It seems like a waste of money for ford to develop such a similar gas motor especially because the specs are so close. 🤷♂️
it’s called the “ godzilla engine family “ for a reason. all they did was shorten the stroke.
@@willr623 and up the compression.
@@berserker406 Coming from a guy who in other comments is defending Chevy and saying it’s better meanwhile Chevy has a 5.3 L a 6.2 L V8 explain to me the point of those really when realistically they should just make the six point to the base engine win the 5.3 is garbage does that basically counter the point you just made?
@@willr623 Yeah, some of these guys think only GM builds "engine families".....and they seem to forget the 5.3L with numerous model years of oil consumption problems is virtually the "LS red headed step child".
@@s.i2898 LMAO!!! Checkmate on berserker406 who's comments remind me of the political donkeys who make asses of themselves by forgetting previous statements they make about the political elephants who have excellent short and long term memories.
I chose the 6.8 because could not get the 7.3 without the driver aids. It also cost over $5000 more with the required upgrades to get the 7.3 Godzilla. Overall cost and no driver assistance were more important for me.
That's crazy, man.
Don't blame you.
Like the short stroke better anyway.
And you do what for a living ? Please don’t tell
Me you’re an office worker …
I got a 22 f150 with all the aids as a work truck. They can be a pain, idk if I’d want to pay bout 50k for a truck that’s always beeping at me.
I buy older car before they add all this cost inflating nonsense
@@s.i2898 I am currently a transportation manager, but also run our shipping and receiving department. I have had my CDL for over 20 years and still move trucks daily in our yard, occasionally I do get out of the building for a short run. The truck is for personal use, have an 8000 lb conventional trailer used for recreational use.
Lol. getting over 19mpg combined on second tank with my V8 Tremor that I picked up last month. Peace, Love!!
I have a 2019 Trident 6.8 V10 that I think is an excellent motor with its 6-speed transmission in my 14K lb. class C RV. Plenty of power, especially compared to my older 5.9 diesel class A RV. I've had zero issues with the Ford truck part of the RV except it likes to drink gas (like I like to drink beer) consistently 8.5 - 9 MPG on regular gas. My 2019 6.8 V10 has plenty of power, so do the Ford powered RV's with the newer 7.3 or the new 6.8 V8 motors get better gas mileage? Back in 2020-21 when the RV's switched to the Ford 7.3 V8 the RV's appeared to jump up about $10K. in MSRP at that time.
Do the new Ford motors really get better gas mileage, or are they Ford's answer to meet tougher EPA emissions? To get the higher HP numbers do the new Ford motors require Premium fuel as my 6.4 V8 Dodge Challenger does?
Both run 87 Octane.
7.3 compression ratio 10.5 : 1
6.8 compression ratio 10.8: 1
"Triton"
You stated a few times that the payload was the same between the two, but the numbers beg to differ. First off where you are correct: When comparing the offroad version of the v6.8L (3051lb) to the standard 7.3L (3041lb), the offroad version only had 10lb (0.3%) more cargo capacity. But...
Now compare the two stock trucks, the 6.8L had 3969lb compared to the 7.3L had 3041lb, which is a 928lb (30%) difference. Depending on what the truck is doing that could be HUGE!
My case: I will be pulling a sub 10K lb trailer but carrying a lot of weight in the bed of the truck. In my case the 6.8L looks like a better option
Whats the mpg??????
I have a 2022 f350 lariat, 6.5’ box, 3.73 gears. I constantly get 12.5 mpg in the city. 15mpg highway on the flat cruise set at 75mph love the truck. Pulling my 29’ enclosed trailer I get 9.5. Love this motor
12.5 and 15mpg not towing?
12.5 city and 15mpg highway, not towing.
i have a 7.3 and love it
On the configuration page 6.8 vs 7.3 rear frame is not the same.
I have 6.2 2019 with 60k on I have got 15 mph when not towing do two
I love both trucks but 10 mpg I still lake for better than the others guys 🤷♂️
Good power and presumably better fuel economy, plus the 6.8 is technically interesting with a shorter stroke and slightly higher compression ratio. I'd be happy with either, but the 6.8 would be my first choice.
Either one, when converted to cubic inches, will make a Mopar fan happy.
Shorter stroke just means less torque especially as the motor ages. Many examples over the years from more than one manufacturer.
Both engines are available side by side as options or is the 7.3 getting replaced?
Both available. They replaced the 6.2 with the 6.8. So now you can choose between 7.3 or 6.8
@@worldwidewes8411when i was working at fed ex i had a P1200 Box truck and infact had the Beast 7.3 Godzilla definitely had that big block rumble and idle loved that damn engine but was a pig on gas ⛽️ lol
11:43 An automotive upgrade is worth implementing if it provides at least 10% difference. 10mpg vs 11mpg is a 10% increase.
What's that thang you put in the dash to start it?
The key
Just bought a 2024 F-250 7.3L Godzilla 8-foot bed Lariat ultimate with panoramic moon roof and smart hitch for only $71k in CA. 👍🏼🇺🇸
To get the real MPG of these trucks you would have to do a long highway trip and calculate the MPG mathematically, not use the instrument display computer.
I mean they both sound good even with the factory pipes so its a toss up for me
Which Is better out of all engines? Obviously the all new 6.7L HO powerstroke that's over a monster 500 hp and 1200 ft-lb of torque. Can't wait to see the Limited that's it's only engine included and that's what I love about it. Even though it's top of the line in the super duty lineup Limited is still my favorite so Is the king ranch on any truck model F150 or duallies as long as it has that king ranch cabin interior I'd definitely take it hands down.
But as stated in numerous videos and articles, the new era diesels are becoming more and more problematic and unreliable. No def, egr, regen, etc on the gas motor- but still a very impressive tow rating
@@Mike-lm2og yeah well I own horses. Gotta have diesel.
@@chrisholland2016 oh but..........you don't just buy new truck every 2 years. Yea once towing with diesel never going back.👍🍺
@@Mike-lm2og not really, just don't trash your shit and you'll be fine.
@@techs1smh13 well with me I'm different. At first when I was 16 I owned a 2001 7.3l platinum F250 then regretfully gave it to my little cousin, 2 years later in my senior year 2016 got a blue 2014 f150 limited for Christmas and then the bed got knocked off by a drunk driver in a lifted f250 platinum out of nowhere from a hill and the air bag knocked him out and killed him and now I have a 2009 Tacoma that's been doing me good. About to get a bigger truck again and so far both half ton and heavy duties done good for me. Makes no difference to me now if it was a new diesel with the 10 speed like they are now all nice on the inside then yeah of course I'll be stuck on it they're better than ever. Plenty of power in hauling and acceleration. 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I have a 2023' 7.3 and get 8.5 mpg, It's awful! I'm currently looking for ways to increase to at least 13 mpg so, if anyone has info I would love to hear.
You drive in town? Stock vehicle?
@@seabass22 yes
@@SlLVERFAWKES that sounds nuts. Lot of stop and go traffic?
I have 16" wide wheels with spacers, 37's and a 4" lift with my 6.8 ans getting about 15.5 daily driving on the highway. Surprisingly large wheel wells, I can almost turn full lock without any rubbing. I trimmed a sixteenth off my air dam and it does not rub. Venom power terra hunter XT
When they first announced the 7.3 in the new trucks i was excited that they were bringing back the legendary 7.3 motor that was discontinued in 2003 only to come and find out that it 7.3 gas not diesel 😒
The 7.3 was only legendary for being at the time they didn't need emissions and being too weak to break anything
The 7.3 gas has almost 200hp more and the same torque as the 7.3 diesel. You’re also not having to deal with the epa bs.
@@mikenettle7655 also that gas sucking piece of shit can barely eke out as much torque and an outdated ass diesel from 30 years ago
The two 6.8’s have 3.73 gears according to the Truck Safety Comp Cert Stickers he showed. Code 3E. I don’t think he showed the sticker on the 7.3 truck.
I have a 2019 F250 Super Duty with a 6.4 L gas in it. It's awesome. I paid 28 k for it with less than five thousand miles on it. I pulled into the dump it's over 20000 lb(perhaps over 23,000 shhhhh) and it doesn't even feel like I'm towing anything . I to live in Utah and some of the steep slopes if you are telling a bunch you can expect to get just over three miles per gallon. I averaged just about 13 MPG over 40000 miles. I do more Towing the most of you though. If I was going to buy a dedicated tow rig I probably go diesel but if you're towing less than 75% of the time these engines are awesome. The turning radius on this truck is shockingly good. I can parallel park a dump trailer in Salt Lake City in one of these like it's a Prius and mine doesn't even have that overhead 3D camera thing. I think this year I'm going to get me a 7.3 for personal use to replace my old camping pickup. The confidence you feel on the road while towing with one of these trucks is just phenomenal. On top of that I haven't changed anything other than brake pads and the oil. These new trucks are just awesome.
no u do not. ford doesnt make that size displacement
@@mrfiestas my bad it's a 6.2
You only want Godzilla if you are constantly tow/hauling. Otherwise get the 6.8..
Nah both are toys
@@wizard_of_poz4413bro you are a troll. Youre commenting on everyones shii. Get a life man. My god. We get it. Diesel is life for you. Not everyone wants or is going to get a diesel. Put your time in to something more useful
I don't understand the payload situation. The third truck shown, has a 6.8 with the off-road package, otherwise almost identical to the first 6.8? So you're losing nearly 1000lbs of payload because of that package? Maybe I don't understand gross weight rating.
And why is the 7.3 tow rating about 4000lbs more when the HP/Torque difference to the 6.8 is pretty marginal?
The offroad package has softer springs
I think he's also comparing a 250 to a 350 but I could be blind. The 5th wheel / gooseneck package adds gvwr, the engine adds gvwr and the axle ratio can also marginally change the GVWR, as well as the cab and box setup, and 2wd vs 4x4.
I dont exactly know what the point of making the same engine but with slightly less stroke is.
I wouldn’t trust each trucks fuel economy computer as they are known to be off. Why not fill them up before and after?
Does the 6.8's lifters go to shits like the 7.3? Asking for a friend...
Mines got over 20k no issues so far
6.8L Cast crank. 7.3L Forged crank. Only real difference between them, besides cubic inch displacement.
Can't get a 7.3 without all the safety beepers. Like automatic braking and lane keeping, dynamic cruise control, auto dimming headlights
My '83 F250HD gets slightly better mileage with a carbureted 460 and a 3-speed C6 trans. Why?
Because this is a 3 mile test run.
I bought my '23 brand new, and I speced it out on the website. It's an XL, 6.8, super cab long box (not a super crew) single wheel 350 4x4 without the offroad package. It has the heavy service suspension package. It also has 4.30 gears and e-lockers, 4" lift, 26x16 wheels and 37x15.50 XT tires, 3" spacers and I'm averaging 15.5 mpg. When it was stock I could get 17. That's highway driving strictly with 33" tires and 17" wheels. Only thing I've really done to it besides lift wheels and tires is unimportant to the fuel mileage, like an XLT console, platinum heads and tails, paint matched all the black plastic (Oxford white) and installed platinum mirrors.
Ford should make an 8.2 L V10
Both these motors replace the old v10
18.9L V36
That’s specific
Overall all things considered for my use would get the 6.8
When are we going to see a 6.7 HO review?
Soon hopefully
I love my 2021 7.3 f250
Although it was not an option when I bought my 21' F350 XLT I really like my 7.3L. I would buy it again today. I tow a 8400 # travel trailer with ease thru out the PNW hills & mtns without breaking a sweat. I really do not understand why they even bother with a 6.8L? If you're buying a Super Duty for mpg's then you're buying the wrong vehicle. Get a Ranger or small F150. I can't imagine there would be more than 0.2 mpg difference at best in most cases. I doubt there is even that. I did not want a diesel. Had them and do not tow that heavy of loads to pay the premium & extra maintenance. If I were towing more than 13-14k then I'd take a hard look. Difference between a diesel & 7.3 gasser towing is about 1-2 mpg's in my case. I can buy a lot of gas for the $10k difference in cost. I ave 13 empty around town, 17.5 on the hwy empty; 10-10.3 mpg towing our trailer up & down hills. Got 13 on a flat hwy trip once. Not sure I'd give the mpg award out based on a 3 mile trip. Did they both have the same rear ratios as well?
Not everyone that buys a Super Duty tows.
@@benjaminwayneb true; but then you'd be using it for heavier loads than you would want using a 1/2T or Ranger. My initial comments would still hold. Why would you buy a Super Duty for gas mileage?
@@herb7877 thanks for sharing your real world experience. Exactly the type of information I was hoping was in the comments.
Question: if you were buying today, with the same needs you currently have, would you still opt for a F350, or would the F250 with the 7.3 suffice? Thanks.
@@trenegade5441 i originally wanted a f250 . After a a little research I found that I could only opt for a 3.55 or 4.30 rear gears. The f350 was either the 3.73 or 4.30. I’ve had the 3.55 before and it’s not tall enough and I thought the 4.30 could be too tall. I wanted the 3.73. I could always drop a gear if needed. Nut for nut, bolt for bolt the f350 & f250 are the same, except for that and an overload spring on the f350. The cost difference is/ was $1700. You gain an extra 1k load cap as well. At the price of these I felt another few dollars was well worth it. So yes, I’d go the f350 route again.
@@herb7877 awesome! Thank you very much for your reply! Great information!
Not sure but at these prices they can keep em lol
6.8L torque curve?
Similar to the 7.3, pushed out about 300 ish rpm.
7.3 forged crank vs 6.8 cast crank. 10r140 vs 10r100 again goes to 7.3 for quality. 7.3 is the obvious choice unless you just don't have the money which IS a lot more. I'd find 2nd or 3rd hand 7.3.
I’m surprised about the 7.3’s fuel economy here. My ‘22 F-250 Lariat Tremor w the 7.3 averages 12.4 in the city and 14 on the Hwy
What is your tire size and having a tremor you get less mpg cause you have heavier setup unless you drive factory size and lowest aggressive terrain tires your not going to be able to see high mpg I have a 2019 f250 6.2l crew cab long flatbed with factory size mud tires I saw a drop in mpg of 3 to 4 mpg going from factory bed to a flatbed and all terrain tires to mud tires
Correct me if I wrong but I thought the 6.8 was a triton V10
That’s old style
Most could not afford either truck.
Ford's front ends on their SD are horrendous looking! Looks like Kermit's siblings! 😂
So my 1970 ford truck with a 390 got 18mpg so we jump 50 pluse years the truck cost over a 100 times more and gets less mpg does anyone else see a problem
Because boomers gonna boom
@wizard_of_poz4413 yeah, I had a 75 with the 390 and got 7 MPG. Only way your getting 18 with one of those os shutting it off going down hill
@@Toddstjohn say it to the terminally online boomer
@@Toddstjohn Yup, had a '63 T-Bird that got about 10mpg in town, on the interstate, or driving in the coast range in Cali. That 390 would just lope along, always burning about the same amount of gas per mile.
I don't get it. I do not see enough difference in HP to warrant two different engines.
You gotta love when people just don’t understand the concept of inflation
Sad that the 6.2 has been discontinued.
Ford mechanics will tell you the 7.3 has a problem with camshaft wear.
Roller lifters shit the bed and ruin your cam at 40k and no maintenance intervals will change that
That is NOT unique to the Ford 7.3L V8. The GM 6.2L V8 has the SAME PROBLEM. The problem is caused by Third Party part suppliers.
Can we get that 6.8 in the F150 please
Never
In a raptor with a supercharger or better intake / exhaust would be fun!
@Ben Hardy, Drive again?
FE 390
7.3 Benjamin.❤
These two trucks have 2 different 10 speed transmissions
Exactly Correct. The 7.3L is backed by the 10R140 and the 6.8L is backed by the lighter duty 10R100.
I have the 10R100 behind the 6.8 in my '23 and I love it
@@79dentdoes yours make a whining noise at idle?
I have used gas and diesel on these trucks and if I had to choose engines 6.7 turbo diesel will win in torque and in take off
I have the 2020 f350 7.3 and I love it but I didn’t buy it for the mileage but instead for reliability & towing purposes. With a truck that heavy I’m not to concerned about how fast I can take off since I’m not out proving anything cause I know what I’m driving. (A beast!💪🏽😤
the shorter geared transmission of the 6.8 with the same rear ends make me think the 6.8 will be slightly faster
Match the engine to your towing needs.
Ford Canada wants $2500 more for the 7.3L. Not sure if it's worth it.
10mpg vs 11mpg is 10% better for the 6.8. I would say 10% is insignificant.