It also helps that Transformers was an established franchise with a dedicated fan base even before the movies. While Battleship was a very famous board game, that’s all it is, a game
This was a central issue with the movie, and although there are tabletop games that have some kind of lore with them, like for example Clue, where you can elaborate on the characters established backgrounds, Battleship on the other hand has no lore, its just a random naval battle based on finding your oponnent by firing blindly, theres no way anybody can translated that to a 1:30 hours movie, maybe a 5 minutes clip, but not a movie.
@@LordofSadFac The only part of the movie that made sense was when they used wave buoys because the sensors were blinded. Everything else had nothing to with the tabletop. And yes, there are tabletops that can be make good movies, like 40k or Battletech.
@@slipstreamxr3763 It wasn't. It was the 40k fandom which picked it up as a movie which could have happened in the 40k universe (as they have picked up several others).
@@LordofSadFac could probably work if it was portrayed as a WW II movie, with two naval fleets fighting against each other in a fog or something like that, where they are unable to see one another
But it's NOT so bad it's good, its actually a very good film shitcanned by hipsters that think it's trendy to shit on films because they are all film critics all of a sudden, the whole so bad it's good thing is reserved for films like "The room" or anything Richard Harrison it doesn't have any usage with a film like this that is actually well done despite the nitwits that try to pretend its bad
To be fair, it is smarter than Transformers. Not that it is saying much. In Transformers it is just dumb robot battles from beginning to finish with a mcguffin in the middle to fight for. Battleship tried to be something a little different because it depicts aliens both like an expeditionary force like Hernando Cortez (they are trying to stablish a base on earth for future extraction efforts) and also with the concerns of moderns militaries. They differentiate between military and non-military targets (one could argue much better than the US does), trying to leave civilians alone unless they interfere. They send rescue missions for their captured soldiers. And they try to minimize collateral damage. I dunno, for me it was refreshing to see an alien force whose combat doctrine isn't simply "kill anything that moves". It shows an actual civilization behind their actions, instead of a movie villains. What most hurts this movie I think is the battleship connections. It is almost certainly a script that was about aliens and then adapted into a battleship-related script, which has nothing to do with aliens. If it was another alien movie instead of trying to be a tie-in (and with a better director and cast) it could probably become a cult classic.
Fun fact: I was in the navy and my ship was used for this movie. While we were in Hawaii we had the film crew come aboard and take a bunch of shots of various parts of the ship. Look closely and you can see “102” on the ship that blows up. That would be DDG-102, the USS Sampson, which was my ship. The best part is that I haven’t seen the movie yet, probably never will.
I'm disappointed it didn't become a huge hit to kickstart the Tabletop Children's Games Cinematic Universe, featuring potential blockbusters such as Connect Four, Snakes and Ladders, and Hungry Hungry Hippos...
@@chrysecreative5575 For me i'd say the charm lay less in the military porn and more in the old person porn . . .wait, that doesn't sound quite right . . .
@@africanchick23 I think only those who are very into military stuff like movies such as Battle: Los Angeles. Guy like us always root for human soldiers and we sit down for 90 minute just to see them kick some alien ass in the end.
"Michael Bay's goal is to entertain his audience in 15 second intervals." OMFG, that hit the nail exactly on the head. Bay doesnt want you to sneeze during his movies cuz you might miss something
Never saw this movie, but the trailer gave me one of the best in-theater reactions I've ever witnessed. In 2011, I was at a screening of "Cowboys and Aliens" (a movie I enjoyed, despite its flaws), they had the trailer for this movie before it. When the trailer ended, and the words "BATTLESHIP" appeared on screen, someone in the audience shouted "Oh, bullshit!", to which members of the the audience laughed.
@@beyond-journeys-end I meant it as a joke but it’s usually used when people say something crazy happened to them and it’s like yeah that didn’t happen lol
The real difference between Battleship and Transformers success? One of them is the most well known and popular brand of toys for an entire generation of kids, while the other was that board game you played at recess when it was raining outside. Sometimes a film's quality has absolutely nothing to do with success or failure.
@@soundwavesuperior5596 Thank you, the live action Transformers movies aren't as bad as people say they are. Not to mention that the 1986 Transformers movie is a masterpiece.
as soon as I realized that your criticisms are not about "how to make a good movie" (sorry, should have been automatic with you), but "how to make a movie true to transformers formula (whatever one's personal opinion on it is)", the unpleasant feeling in my mind went away and I realized it's another video as excellent as all others you make :). thank you.
And the "light it up!'' sunrise sequence when they defeat the monster ship by blowing up its windows thus blinding the bad guy aliens and overwhelming them with explosives. I like the one you mention thou, old pops be killing it in that scene!
Exactly. I think that's what each Transformers script was - 150 pages of: Scene - exterior - daytime *Noise and explosions* It baffles me that the Transformers movies have made so much money - they're awful.
@@alfgwahigain5544 except for one tf movie that was good that had nothing to do with the bayverse?? Cough cough so yes I have to agree would you just said.
unfortunately right after Dark of the Moon's giant worm, we saw "Paralax" in green lantern, "galak-tus" in rise of the silver surfer, and the swarm of ships in that one star trek movie and they were all pretty much the same thing. The damn blue sky-beam before the blue sky-beam.
When I first heard of this movie I was like " oh a Battleship movie with war time Ship fighting and navel combat on a large scale" Then I saw the First Trailer and ........ ALIENS
@@josuemunoz5455 Imagine how much more people would tear this film appart if it was a WW2 film. People always get nitpicky and hating on the "inaccuracies".
@@josuemunoz5455 And with a modern naval combat you need a bad guy faction that is able to realistically support a fleet and then you would have to pick a group or nation and oh boy, someone will end up being offended for being depicted as a villain. Its not like in the 70s or 80s anymore where any villainous faction could just be the Russians.
Probably the best scene in the movie was the time the USS Missouri was commissioned to fight against the aliens with the retired veterans manning their stations. Still inaccurate, but fun to see.
Lol yeah let’s get six senior citizens to man a literal battleship, a battleship that kind you was rebuilt and upgraded in the 1990s, fifty years after said senior citizens would have ever used any of its equipment. 🙄
@@thetman0068 I mean, that’s why they were put on pretty easy machinery. The Oerlikon 20mms, The loading for the 16” Guns and so much more, newer navy handles what they know and older navy handles what they remember
Let's not forget, this movie also made the mistake of casting box office poison, Taylor Kitsch in the lead role. He was in THREE high profile movies in 2012 (John Carter, Battleship, Savages) and never drew a dime.
I remember watching this on tv with a coworker who was in the navy for 20 years and how hard he laughed and how many times he just walked out of the room shaking his head and chuckling
This movie sort of became a cult classic among the Navy. During my recent travels overseas, we often laugh about it on how ridiculous the whole movie was. Especially the ships involved. Which majority for them are still active.
Battleship felt like the Bayformers movies but instead of being saved by space magic good guy aliens, it's just Man with Man's technology. Which I liked more because it feels more authentic/realistic battle for Earth rather than Earth being a secondary priority to the Autoboats/Decepticon pissing contest.
I’ve always felt that Bay’s vision was probably being tied down by the Autobots’ presence. Bay’s stories would’ve probably been better without them as weird as it is to say.
The story of humans figuring out how to destroy the alien invasion despite the aliens being clearly superior was done much better in Independence Day. Not to be confused with Independence Day Resurgence.
@@barimaadusei-poku3940 Trying to balance the human story against the autobots definitely tied him down. The decipticons were too OP to be battled by the humans alone so it made the humans seem too weak so the autobots had to fight for them. Then whenever the humans fought against the deceptions it never really felt significant because they were barely scratching the paint.
Such act is cool in pirates of carribean, but in battleship? Well its actually chain weight, + length and not anchor that stop a ship from drifting, not to mention the awfully long time required for powerplant of older ship just to prepare to start up. It just break the suspension of disbelieve for some imho. Btw i love the modern ship part.
I actually really enjoyed this movie it’s one of my favorite alien movies and it’s very rewatchable. Yes it has many problems and it’s full of cliches but it’s a simple humans vs aliens movie. They turned a board game into an enjoyable action movie. If you expected anything more then your just going to be let down.
@Lord Dingus I don’t think that was the problem what so ever, it wasn’t really limited by the source material. I think the „adaptation“ in the one battle was actually very cool, but didn’t make or break the film.
@Lord Dingus I think the reception would've been a lot better if they went with the standard humans vs aliens naval plot but named the movie after the "protagonist ship" instead and only reference to the board game would be the detector guessing part where someone makes a groan worthy comment "just like battleship huh *nudge nudge wink wink*". They would've maybe avoided all the negative expectations attached to what they were adapting.
I first saw this movie in theaters with my dad when I was 7, and I loved it. last Monday, me and my dad watched it again, I’m 16 now and I still love it, it’s a general turn-your-brain-off movie, my brain was on and I still love it.
I think my favorite thing about this movie is the fact that I watched it when it came out, and yet I had literally no recollection of anything that happened in it until I saw this analysis, and even then I had only the foggiest of memories. That's how forgettable it was. Honestly, it's kind of impressive.
“What’s a thing people remember that we can buy the film rights for cheap?” Is what they’re thinking. Then if it’s successful they can recontextualize the property to whatever makes money, and if they fail, they didn’t put much money in to start with.
I can see a Monoply movie working, maybe a Wall Street parody about a real estate mogul that inexplicably dresses up as an 1800s railroad tycoon and refers to his employees as "the car" or "the shoe". No idea about Hungry Hungry Hippos tho. Gigantic cosmic hippos trying to eat the Earth Galactus-style?
Battleship is like my guilty pleasure. I watch it once every two or three years and absolutely love how insane it is. These crazy aliens with honestly awesome designs rock up and get beaten by a nerd with a briefcase, an old battleship and a bunch of high explosives. What a trip
I really enjoyed this movie and have watched it a few times. Never really correlated it to the board game, but love ww2 battleships and thought the alien ships were very cool. My biggest problem was them acting like you can crew a whole battleship with 20 people.
But DRIFTING BATTLRSHIP Look, I know it’s not exactly an “Inception”, but what other movie has an Iowa -class battleship give a full broadside? It’s just a one of a kind.
interestingly, theres a transformer triple changer callled broadside that can change into a aircraft carrier and a jet, one of the most out of scale transformers in the series
After the tedious repetition of these toy-based movies, Steve Jablonsky broke free and scored the music for Ender's Game. Say what you will about the movie itself, but the soundtracks, MWUAH 👌
i don’t think it was bad just not interesting enough to attract a big enough audience (like sad in the video) i liked watching it, also because there wasn’t „stupid“ extra stuff going on and it hadn’t over the top characters. but thats what made it not so memorable (but not bad in my opinion)
@@Caipi2070 yes this movie is not bad.. average movie but that alien vs human scenes definitely I don't like it...they just saw the scientist and then he just run...wtf..
@@mace2172 Because it's objectively a bad movie. 1 dimensional characters, cookie cutter action scenes, generic aliens, etc. Compare this to the almost masterpiece that Arrival is and it's easier to understand the hate. If we are staying exclusively in the action genre then compare it to Fury Road. Battleship is a bland movie that added nothing culturally and was disliked by almost everyone who watched it. Now, despite all that you are still allowed to like it. You are allowed to enjoy it as nothing anyone says about it should in any way prevent you from liking it.
Imagination plays a big part for me .. When I played with my Transformers when I was young I could imagine them being real or how they might act ( with help from the cartoons) All the times I’ve played Battleships I never imagined it being an Sci-fi Action movie ..
This outro song is one of the most accurate and fitting songs that you would ever see out there. I just wanted to take a minute to adress that, i really apprecciate the outro.
The bit that got me most about Battleships is this fleet that have amazing shields don't bother using them when they are in space and get downed by colliding with a satellite. Also, I swear they call the lead character both Topper and Hopper throughout...
I've watched Battleship a few times and I still like it. I find it to be really entertaining und kinda charming. I mean, its absolutely shallow and everything, but I don't get why so many people seem to hate it. I can watch it over and over again...
I'll be straight. Seeing the old sea dogs fire up the mighty mo was a hilariously badass scene. The movie had some fun moments, but was trying to be Transformers.
I honesty liked this movie when I first saw it as a kid. High tech aliens being clapped by pre-historic armed humans was cool. But I gotta admit, I skipped to the action scenes.
I like how the ship blew up in 3 sections so it could look like putting the little pieces on your ship because that is legitimately the only thing they could reference in terms of the original board game
@@rwhoooshifgay5165 It's not his fault after DOTM Michael Bay wanted out but Paramount seeing the billion dollars it made wanted more sequels so Bay taught Paramount a good lesson hence 4&5 exist.
Damn, that inclusion of "21 Guns" at 9:37 really brought back the memories of watching "Revenge of the Fallen" on my PSP. *EDIT:* Also, a video on District 9 would be awesome.
It reminds me of when you say doing something extra in a scene like the Macbeth video you made where the creators made extra decisons for a scene like for example with movement of the candle to feel as if though there is movement , color saturation and the dust moving intensely when a scene slowly becomes more intense and incereases in tenison. Basically add more layers to the scene by making it more memorable with memorable unique character instead of cliches including trying to make your story and each scene unique in a memorable way that makes your story unique from others which in return makes it memorable.
Honestly, this movie would have done better but if I remember it went up against avengers at the time. In reality, it was a fun popcorn flick that my entire family, including my wife, enjoys to watch so its a win for me.
This movie is dumb sure, but its actually my favorite "let me watch a dumb movie while i do some other work" movie. I love The first Transformers for the same reason, but this movie has way less slow moments so its always exciting to just have on on the side. I also liked how it seemed like they had fun translating the board game into a silly alien movie. Like how the alien ships hopped, and how the missles were pegs, and how they used the buoys to make the battleship field cause radar wasnt working. What can i say, i like pew pew pow pow explosion
Honestly, this was one of those movies for me that I watch as a guilty pleasure. I remember loving it as a kid, and I’ll overlook some of the bad parts because the rest is so good.
Answer to question for today: the man can clearly make a film. It's just we know all his cinematic beats and tropes that they just become one dimensional. I still watch The Rock today and I fast fwd to Act 3 of Dark of the Moon. But his whole boobs, explosions, and American Flag in every scene is becoming a gimmick than a thematic element to film.
I really enjoyed this film. It had some great moments like I personally love the scene of the modern navy soldiers/crew working with the vets on the old WW2 battleship to get it working and battle ready
@@etam8099 There was a really stupid scene in the fourth Transformers film, which was directed by Michael Bay obviously, where they literally tried explaining to the audience how one of the main characters' relationships with an underage main character was somehow fine and dandy.
I remember being a teen when the movie was coming out, and trailer made it look like the most awesome blockbuster ever. I didn't get a chance to see it in theaters so I spent like 30 bucks of my bday money on the blue ray release box, brought it home and watched it that night. Fell asleep like 2/3rds through lmao I don't remember basically anything except the Roly poly alien balls and the part where they played battleship using the buoys. This movie sucked lol
@@adriannaranjo4397 i feel bad for teenage me too. This along with the clash of the titans remake were some of the first steps for me to realize "you won't like every movie/ not every movie is good or made equal"
I lowkey love battleship.Granted it’s mostly all nostalgia but my family loves that stupid movies and I once went on a cruise and they put on that movie and that was so funny
same. I won't deny Marvel's cinematic and monetary achievement, but I do regret it in that we just won't have anything like Battleship for some time, if at all.
To be honest, I liked this movie much more than Transformers. Battleship actually feels like a sci-fi film from time to time, while Transformers was just... well... Transformers.
My reaction to Transformers becoming a movie: Awesome! I can't wait to see Optimus Prime on the big screen!!!! My reaction to Battleship becoming a movie: What? Why? It's a board game.
Never thought it could happen but Filmento actually made me appreciate Michael Bay a bit. Gotta say, as stupid as his movies are he does have some semblance of a creative vision when making them.
I thought Battleship was beautiful. It was just an absolute masterpiece for a movie based on a board game. Especially the fact that they used the Tsunamis Buoys as the coords for attack. Just beautiful in my opinion.
You know what kind of alien invasion movie concept I would love to see? Basically it starts off with some alien who escape from its home colony for whatever reason and during the chase their ship got shot and it flew down towards Earth. Some unlucky human finds this escapee alien and has to protect them from the government and the alien colony when they eventually decide to enter Earth. War between them breaks out, yadda yadda yadda, until at one point it is revealed that this alien escapee is actually a convict who has been going around blowing up planet after planet and the aliens were only trying to capture them before they could destroy the Earth or whatever so both sides join forces to capture them before the world ending event happens.
The fact that I was able to watch a video essay featuring Michael Bay's cinema, and I actually learned important aspects of good movie-making is a testament to how well put together this video essay is 🙌 Thank you for another quality video!
It’s funny as hell to me how he opens with “why did this movie underperform despite similarity to transformers”. Bro their similarities are on the smallest scale possible. Battleship NEVER would’ve had the same impact as transformers. Battleship underperformed compared to TF simply because they are damn near not similar at all
It also helps that Transformers was an established franchise with a dedicated fan base even before the movies. While Battleship was a very famous board game, that’s all it is, a game
If this movie is a success, they will make "Rock-Paper-Scissors".
Yeah it's like making a psychological horror movie of monopoly
@@braiangalindo1265 Universal : "Write that down! Write that down!"
@@braiangalindo1265 ngl tho an anime about monopoly is sick
@@braiangalindo1265 I mean, do we not already live in a world of monopoly? Only that we aren't the players?
The balls they had to release this around the same time as the Avengers is truly amazing.
The Avengers was better. So much better.
The film is basically a recruitment ad for the US Navy.
@@thegunslinger1363 That makes too much sense.
🤣🤣🤣
I dont think they bothered to check with which movie they were going to compete.
A naval Sci-Fi is something with great potential. It just doesn't make sense as a film adaptation of a tabletop game.
This was a central issue with the movie, and although there are tabletop games that have some kind of lore with them, like for example Clue, where you can elaborate on the characters established backgrounds, Battleship on the other hand has no lore, its just a random naval battle based on finding your oponnent by firing blindly, theres no way anybody can translated that to a 1:30 hours movie, maybe a 5 minutes clip, but not a movie.
@@LordofSadFac The only part of the movie that made sense was when they used wave buoys because the sensors were blinded. Everything else had nothing to with the tabletop.
And yes, there are tabletops that can be make good movies, like 40k or Battletech.
@@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 I think Event Horizon was supposed to be the lead up to an eventual Warhammer series but it flopped in theaters.
@@slipstreamxr3763 It wasn't. It was the 40k fandom which picked it up as a movie which could have happened in the 40k universe (as they have picked up several others).
@@LordofSadFac could probably work if it was portrayed as a WW II movie, with two naval fleets fighting against each other in a fog or something like that, where they are unable to see one another
This is one of those movies that I personally enjoy as one of those "so bad it's good" movies. I don't regret buying this on bluray.
Same bro I watch it just for the cannon Salvo it's pretty dope
I prefer its more serious micheal bay mentality over the goofy shit that transformers became by 3. I also love the game.
Daughter of ant man said " it's so ugly, i love it!!!"
But it's NOT so bad it's good, its actually a very good film shitcanned by hipsters that think it's trendy to shit on films because they are all film critics all of a sudden, the whole so bad it's good thing is reserved for films like "The room" or anything Richard Harrison it doesn't have any usage with a film like this that is actually well done despite the nitwits that try to pretend its bad
To be fair, it is smarter than Transformers. Not that it is saying much.
In Transformers it is just dumb robot battles from beginning to finish with a mcguffin in the middle to fight for.
Battleship tried to be something a little different because it depicts aliens both like an expeditionary force like Hernando Cortez (they are trying to stablish a base on earth for future extraction efforts) and also with the concerns of moderns militaries.
They differentiate between military and non-military targets (one could argue much better than the US does), trying to leave civilians alone unless they interfere. They send rescue missions for their captured soldiers. And they try to minimize collateral damage.
I dunno, for me it was refreshing to see an alien force whose combat doctrine isn't simply "kill anything that moves". It shows an actual civilization behind their actions, instead of a movie villains.
What most hurts this movie I think is the battleship connections. It is almost certainly a script that was about aliens and then adapted into a battleship-related script, which has nothing to do with aliens.
If it was another alien movie instead of trying to be a tie-in (and with a better director and cast) it could probably become a cult classic.
Fun fact: I was in the navy and my ship was used for this movie. While we were in Hawaii we had the film crew come aboard and take a bunch of shots of various parts of the ship. Look closely and you can see “102” on the ship that blows up. That would be DDG-102, the USS Sampson, which was my ship. The best part is that I haven’t seen the movie yet, probably never will.
Thanks for your service!
Nailed that last part 🤣🤣
Proof
Dude watch it it's actually pretty good
@@shreeshanthkadam agreed
No sarcasm
I'm disappointed it didn't become a huge hit to kickstart the Tabletop Children's Games Cinematic Universe, featuring potential blockbusters such as Connect Four, Snakes and Ladders, and Hungry Hungry Hippos...
Ok crazy comment guy,
Pitch me a movie for snakes and ladders
Let me see how deep a hole you're about to dig yourself right now
Hungry, Hungry Hippos could be a very gory, scary movie!
@@Andreamom001 yeah bro you don't fuck with hippos
D&D is the bomb tho
@@pheonix2700 i always wanted to play dnd
I think this movie has its charms. I love seeing a 80 year old veteran with aviators ripping a 50 cal at some aliens. It’s insane. But charming
That's pretty much the staple of both movies. Eye and ear candy and military porn.
@@chrysecreative5575 For me i'd say the charm lay less in the military porn and more in the old person porn . . .wait, that doesn't sound quite right . . .
@@nbucwa6621 bruh
The better term is historical porn
Early 2010’s action movies in a nutshell: “We want transformers, but not named transformers…”
@@AxxLAfriku The… What?
@@AxxLAfriku th-cam.com/video/JwncAQurlqk/w-d-xo.html
@@thepylonperspective
Discount Filthy Frank that spams comments, ignore him
Executive:Can we make Transformers?
Writer:We can make our own Transformers!
Our own Transformers:
@@AxxLAfriku To quote Galvatron, this is bad comedy.
I honestly liked the movie having such scenes that makes no sense but brushed it off and laugh at it. I do love me some military vs alien movies
i love those too! I have you seen Battle: Los Angeles? One of my fav military v aliens movie
@@africanchick23 me too!!! The trailer tho scared me lol
@@LightningZetton the trailer spoiled too much. Its on Netflix right now too.
@@africanchick23 I think only those who are very into military stuff like movies such as Battle: Los Angeles. Guy like us always root for human soldiers and we sit down for 90 minute just to see them kick some alien ass in the end.
@@indigard2747 yeah bet. I guess it all started with Independence Day
"Michael Bay's goal is to entertain his audience in 15 second intervals."
OMFG, that hit the nail exactly on the head. Bay doesnt want you to sneeze during his movies cuz you might miss something
I actually liked battleship because of the historical ships
What about the overall film in your opinion though?
@@theredguardowen8083 they do be sinking my battleship tho
You would love azur lane
@@bruhnmtr I stopped playing azur lane after 3 years of playing it. I still miss my Colorado
@@theredguardowen8083 it was a good movie.
Never saw this movie, but the trailer gave me one of the best in-theater reactions I've ever witnessed. In 2011, I was at a screening of "Cowboys and Aliens" (a movie I enjoyed, despite its flaws), they had the trailer for this movie before it. When the trailer ended, and the words "BATTLESHIP" appeared on screen, someone in the audience shouted "Oh, bullshit!", to which members of the the audience laughed.
Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most
@@mannyomega713 I never understod why people mention this, wanna teach me?
@@beyond-journeys-end I meant it as a joke but it’s usually used when people say something crazy happened to them and it’s like yeah that didn’t happen lol
Well he's not saying HE said it. Or that he's the hero of the story so Im more inclined to believe him.
@@MrBizteck good point
The real difference between Battleship and Transformers success?
One of them is the most well known and popular brand of toys for an entire generation of kids, while the other was that board game you played at recess when it was raining outside. Sometimes a film's quality has absolutely nothing to do with success or failure.
This is what I was thinking
The Transformer movies are fucking awful. It's just they have a fan base that for some reason still supported them..
@@Super_BeastGirl don’t exaggerate
@@soundwavesuperior5596 all the transformers films suck
@@marvelanddcfan5029 bumblebee and tf1 are good
@@soundwavesuperior5596 Thank you, the live action Transformers movies aren't as bad as people say they are. Not to mention that the 1986 Transformers movie is a masterpiece.
as soon as I realized that your criticisms are not about "how to make a good movie" (sorry, should have been automatic with you), but "how to make a movie true to transformers formula (whatever one's personal opinion on it is)", the unpleasant feeling in my mind went away and I realized it's another video as excellent as all others you make :). thank you.
This channel is slowly becomming into a psycological deep dive of Michel Bay´s mind and I love it!
I actually loved this movie, especially the part where the vet says: "let's drop some lead on this mother- *boom boom boom* "
Me too
And the "light it up!'' sunrise sequence when they defeat the monster ship by blowing up its windows thus blinding the bad guy aliens and overwhelming them with explosives. I like the one you mention thou, old pops be killing it in that scene!
The vets were the best thing of this movie.
Yea that line really convinces me
I don't care what anyone says , this movie was awesome
Take away the robots, Transformers is just a bunch of noise and explosions. That's basically what Battleship is.
& that’s bayverse not knightverse.
Exactly. I think that's what each Transformers script was - 150 pages of:
Scene - exterior - daytime
*Noise and explosions*
It baffles me that the Transformers movies have made so much money - they're awful.
@@alfgwahigain5544 your talking about the Bayverse?? Sir
@@alfgwahigain5544 except for one tf movie that was good that had nothing to do with the bayverse?? Cough cough so yes I have to agree would you just said.
@@alfgwahigain5544 they are popcorn movies, movies you go to see with friends to eat, laugh the movie end u go somewhere else etc
the mixture of moviemaking techniques and subtle memes delights me immensely.
subtle ;)
It arouses me
The movie was only like the game in two aspects: the aliens shoot pegs at the ships and sink the Battleship, and they used the gridmap for one scene.
unfortunately right after Dark of the Moon's giant worm, we saw "Paralax" in green lantern, "galak-tus" in rise of the silver surfer, and the swarm of ships in that one star trek movie and they were all pretty much the same thing. The damn blue sky-beam before the blue sky-beam.
"Galak-tus"? What?
You mean Galactus? AFAIK it's never been spelled that way.
@@feshpince7181that’s how you can tell that too many normies were let into the fandom
When I first heard of this movie I was like " oh a Battleship movie with war time Ship fighting and navel combat on a large scale" Then I saw the First Trailer and ........ ALIENS
Yep.... like... why?
Why not a modern naval combat or some good old ww2 naval combat
@@josuemunoz5455 Imagine how much more people would tear this film appart if it was a WW2 film. People always get nitpicky and hating on the "inaccuracies".
@@josuemunoz5455 And with a modern naval combat you need a bad guy faction that is able to realistically support a fleet and then you would have to pick a group or nation and oh boy, someone will end up being offended for being depicted as a villain.
Its not like in the 70s or 80s anymore where any villainous faction could just be the Russians.
@@wjzav1971 Dammit
Probably the best scene in the movie was the time the USS Missouri was commissioned to fight against the aliens with the retired veterans manning their stations. Still inaccurate, but fun to see.
Lol yeah let’s get six senior citizens to man a literal battleship, a battleship that kind you was rebuilt and upgraded in the 1990s, fifty years after said senior citizens would have ever used any of its equipment. 🙄
@@thetman0068 I mean, that’s why they were put on pretty easy machinery. The Oerlikon 20mms, The loading for the 16” Guns and so much more, newer navy handles what they know and older navy handles what they remember
Let's not forget, this movie also made the mistake of casting box office poison, Taylor Kitsch in the lead role. He was in THREE high profile movies in 2012 (John Carter, Battleship, Savages) and never drew a dime.
The man is cursed.
Not a bad actor but yeah, boxoffice failure 4sure, rhiana doesnt help either
@@jackakascko yeah he's not bad at all, just...cursed.
I liked him in john carter.
I keep hearing someone talking about JBL, "worst drawing champion in WWE history"
I remember watching this on tv with a coworker who was in the navy for 20 years and how hard he laughed and how many times he just walked out of the room shaking his head and chuckling
This movie sort of became a cult classic among the Navy. During my recent travels overseas, we often laugh about it on how ridiculous the whole movie was. Especially the ships involved. Which majority for them are still active.
Fun fact, if you hold the ships in your hand when playing battle ship your opponent can never hit them.
I am so going to so that once or twice, just once or twice but yes
ah yes, the greatest tactic requires the greatest mind to do it
IQ 9000 move
My strategy is to stack all the ships on top of the carrier then put the carrier so most of it is over the edge of the board.
But if you have no ships on the bored then you can’t attack
Imagine making a movie based off a 50 year old IP that is a children's game.
It's desperation and the loss of new ideas. That, or the unwillingness to create a new IP.
Its like making a fucking chess movie
@@dad5draco imagine that lol
@@littlesamu5920 A chess movie with the chess pieces as the main cast.
So The Lego Movie? 😏
I want a movie about UNO, that is about a bunch of gladiators fighting with each other with reverse cards
That sounds like good satire if done right
🤣🤣🤣
So Yu-Gi-Oh?
Needs to be a whole Vegas gambling thriller
An UNO movie or TV show that's basically American Yu-Gi-Oh! could be pretty entertaining.
"Channel your inner Michael Bay"
The World needs more of this.
"more to Michael Bay than meets the eye". You had me laughing there. Very well played !
Battleship felt like the Bayformers movies but instead of being saved by space magic good guy aliens, it's just Man with Man's technology.
Which I liked more because it feels more authentic/realistic battle for Earth rather than Earth being a secondary priority to the Autoboats/Decepticon pissing contest.
I’ve always felt that Bay’s vision was probably being tied down by the Autobots’ presence. Bay’s stories would’ve probably been better without them as weird as it is to say.
But theres just so many of those movies already. Having an allegiance with some of the invading aliens is a nice change imo
The story of humans figuring out how to destroy the alien invasion despite the aliens being clearly superior was done much better in Independence Day. Not to be confused with Independence Day Resurgence.
@@wjzav1971 Which itself was nearly twenty years old when this dumpster fire came out.
@@barimaadusei-poku3940 Trying to balance the human story against the autobots definitely tied him down. The decipticons were too OP to be battled by the humans alone so it made the humans seem too weak so the autobots had to fight for them. Then whenever the humans fought against the deceptions it never really felt significant because they were barely scratching the paint.
Honestly I knew the movie overall isn’t good, but man the action scenes are memorable (especially the battleship drift!)
Such act is cool in pirates of carribean, but in battleship? Well its actually chain weight, + length and not anchor that stop a ship from drifting, not to mention the awfully long time required for powerplant of older ship just to prepare to start up. It just break the suspension of disbelieve for some imho.
Btw i love the modern ship part.
I actually really enjoyed this movie it’s one of my favorite alien movies and it’s very rewatchable. Yes it has many problems and it’s full of cliches but it’s a simple humans vs aliens movie. They turned a board game into an enjoyable action movie. If you expected anything more then your just going to be let down.
I totally agree
@Lord Dingus I don’t think that was the problem what so ever, it wasn’t really limited by the source material. I think the „adaptation“ in the one battle was actually very cool, but didn’t make or break the film.
LOL people hating this film because it's based on a board game? What the actual f...
@Lord Dingus I think the reception would've been a lot better if they went with the standard humans vs aliens naval plot but named the movie after the "protagonist ship" instead and only reference to the board game would be the detector guessing part where someone makes a groan worthy comment "just like battleship huh *nudge nudge wink wink*". They would've maybe avoided all the negative expectations attached to what they were adapting.
@@Caipi2070 It was a problem because that prevented a lot of people of going to the cinema to see it.
I first saw this movie in theaters with my dad when I was 7, and I loved it. last Monday, me and my dad watched it again, I’m 16 now and I still love it, it’s a general turn-your-brain-off movie, my brain was on and I still love it.
your brain must be low capacity then
Oof
I think my favorite thing about this movie is the fact that I watched it when it came out, and yet I had literally no recollection of anything that happened in it until I saw this analysis, and even then I had only the foggiest of memories. That's how forgettable it was. Honestly, it's kind of impressive.
Oh yeah, board games like Monopoly and Hungry Hungry Hippos are getting movies as well, guess Hollywood never learns.
*We're all gonna turn to dust...*
There was already a Monopoly adaptation; it was called There Will Be Blood.
“What’s a thing people remember that we can buy the film rights for cheap?” Is what they’re thinking. Then if it’s successful they can recontextualize the property to whatever makes money, and if they fail, they didn’t put much money in to start with.
Bet the Monopoly Movie is just going to be the Cold War but set in a neighbourhood.
I can see a Monoply movie working, maybe a Wall Street parody about a real estate mogul that inexplicably dresses up as an 1800s railroad tycoon and refers to his employees as "the car" or "the shoe".
No idea about Hungry Hungry Hippos tho. Gigantic cosmic hippos trying to eat the Earth Galactus-style?
"There might be more to Michael Bay than meets the eye." I see what you did there Transformers puns, I love it!
This movie is defintely one of my guilty pleasures. I will always unironically love the nighttime Battleship sequence
Battleship is like my guilty pleasure. I watch it once every two or three years and absolutely love how insane it is. These crazy aliens with honestly awesome designs rock up and get beaten by a nerd with a briefcase, an old battleship and a bunch of high explosives. What a trip
I really enjoyed this movie and have watched it a few times. Never really correlated it to the board game, but love ww2 battleships and thought the alien ships were very cool. My biggest problem was them acting like you can crew a whole battleship with 20 people.
But DRIFTING BATTLRSHIP
Look, I know it’s not exactly an “Inception”, but what other movie has an Iowa -class battleship give a full broadside?
It’s just a one of a kind.
the azur lane anime
interestingly, theres a transformer triple changer callled broadside that can change into a aircraft carrier and a jet, one of the most out of scale transformers in the series
@@leophan2198 well... thats a kansen, not a iron hulled warship aka the best kind
Yeah. But it’s also full of shit
One of a kind certified garbage
After the tedious repetition of these toy-based movies, Steve Jablonsky broke free and scored the music for Ender's Game. Say what you will about the movie itself, but the soundtracks, MWUAH 👌
Ender's Game's OST is one of my absolute favorites to this day, with that baller of a track called Final Test taking the whole friggin' cake.
Steve was always the best not surprised about that honestly
The music for after he won the final battle and realized what he did was amazing
I actually liked the arrival part II I think its called from battleship
As bad as this movie was, it was actually fun to watch. Especially the cool action scenes
Definitely. Twas a lot of fun
i don’t think it was bad just not interesting enough to attract a big enough audience (like sad in the video)
i liked watching it, also because there wasn’t „stupid“ extra stuff going on and it hadn’t over the top characters. but thats what made it not so memorable (but not bad in my opinion)
I liked it a lot. Idk why all the hate.
@@Caipi2070 yes this movie is not bad.. average movie but that alien vs human scenes definitely I don't like it...they just saw the scientist and then he just run...wtf..
@@mace2172 Because it's objectively a bad movie. 1 dimensional characters, cookie cutter action scenes, generic aliens, etc. Compare this to the almost masterpiece that Arrival is and it's easier to understand the hate. If we are staying exclusively in the action genre then compare it to Fury Road. Battleship is a bland movie that added nothing culturally and was disliked by almost everyone who watched it.
Now, despite all that you are still allowed to like it. You are allowed to enjoy it as nothing anyone says about it should in any way prevent you from liking it.
Imagination plays a big part for me ..
When I played with my Transformers when I was young I could imagine them being real or how they might act ( with help from the cartoons)
All the times I’ve played Battleships I never imagined it being an Sci-fi Action movie ..
This outro song is one of the most accurate and fitting songs that you would ever see out there.
I just wanted to take a minute to adress that, i really apprecciate the outro.
Casting Director: “You’ll love the cast. We got that John Carter guy and a pop singer with no acting experience!”
Everyone: …
The bit that got me most about Battleships is this fleet that have amazing shields don't bother using them when they are in space and get downed by colliding with a satellite.
Also, I swear they call the lead character both Topper and Hopper throughout...
The design of the aliens and their craft is pretty rad. That’s all I have to say on this movie. I think there was a game for ps3? Lol
I'll say one word. Anthem.
@@RavenFrostwing Damn such a specific and precise word that explains everything about the design.
@@RavenFrostwing when was anthem make first appearance?
Yeah the game was pretty terrible
cool alien design but i am pissed they are losing the war.
like. how the fuck ??
I've watched Battleship a few times and I still like it. I find it to be really entertaining und kinda charming.
I mean, its absolutely shallow and everything, but I don't get why so many people seem to hate it. I can watch it over and over again...
I'll be straight. Seeing the old sea dogs fire up the mighty mo was a hilariously badass scene. The movie had some fun moments, but was trying to be Transformers.
One is based on the 1980's cartoon with the premise of giant robots turning into the vehicles. The other is based on a board game.
It’s not based on original cartoon.They took it from different pieces of transformers media.Other comics and tv shows
Speaking of movies based on late 20th century toys, I want a Centurions movie. Loved the show as a kid and we have the tech to do it now.
A game table.
Nobody:
Absolutely nobody:
A film producer: *Make him a crazy science fiction movie he says!!*
I honesty liked this movie when I first saw it as a kid. High tech aliens being clapped by pre-historic armed humans was cool.
But I gotta admit, I skipped to the action scenes.
I like how the ship blew up in 3 sections so it could look like putting the little pieces on your ship because that is legitimately the only thing they could reference in terms of the original board game
"There's more to Michael Bay than meets the eye."
I see what you did there 😉
The irony of what you mentioned at 9:06 for me is that…
Even now, that scene has stuck with me, bro IRONHIDE WAS MY FAVORITE
Ironhide will never be forgotten he was my second favorite from original 5 Autobots.
It has got to be said, Michael Bay is pretty damn good at what he does
PREACH
i hate him for ruining transformers, but never forget those explosions that made me love transformers in the first place
@@rwhoooshifgay5165 He only ruined AOE and TLK. First three are masterpieces.
@@rwhoooshifgay5165 You didn’t like the explosions as much as you loved the characters and the score. Check.
@@rwhoooshifgay5165 It's not his fault after DOTM Michael Bay wanted out but Paramount seeing the billion dollars it made wanted more sequels so Bay taught Paramount a good lesson hence 4&5 exist.
for anyone wondering, the guy with the “extreme reaction” is polarsarusrex, that clip is from his modern warfare 2 ending reaction
You know what's this movies biggest crime??? Not ONCE did a character say, "You have sunk my Battleship!!" Unforgivable!!
Damn, that inclusion of "21 Guns" at 9:37 really brought back the memories of watching "Revenge of the Fallen" on my PSP.
*EDIT:* Also, a video on District 9 would be awesome.
District 9 was very interesting movie
It reminds me of when you say doing something extra in a scene like the Macbeth video you made where the creators made extra decisons for a scene like for example with movement of the candle to feel as if though there is movement , color saturation and the dust moving intensely when a scene slowly becomes more intense and incereases in tenison. Basically add more layers to the scene by making it more memorable with memorable unique character instead of cliches including trying to make your story and each scene unique in a memorable way that makes your story unique from others which in return makes it memorable.
Honestly, this movie would have done better but if I remember it went up against avengers at the time.
In reality, it was a fun popcorn flick that my entire family, including my wife, enjoys to watch so its a win for me.
Yeah I enjoyed it
Now we need Filmento to talk about any of the My Little Pony movies and then we can say he's talked about every major Hasbro property
This movie is dumb sure, but its actually my favorite "let me watch a dumb movie while i do some other work" movie. I love The first Transformers for the same reason, but this movie has way less slow moments so its always exciting to just have on on the side. I also liked how it seemed like they had fun translating the board game into a silly alien movie. Like how the alien ships hopped, and how the missles were pegs, and how they used the buoys to make the battleship field cause radar wasnt working. What can i say, i like pew pew pow pow explosion
What we need is a rewritten Battleship akin to Azur Lane. And what I mean by “we need”, is “I need”.
That's the second time i hear AL being brought here and no you said good at first "we need" indeed
We need it's okay for me.
Ι didn't believe i would ever see Wildmutt making an appearance in a video that is not about Ben 10. It made me lose it 😂
That film wasn't a failure but not a masterpiece either. Just a fun film to watch and for that I am remembering him.
considering how much money it lost, it's considered a failure.
Honestly, this was one of those movies for me that I watch as a guilty pleasure. I remember loving it as a kid, and I’ll overlook some of the bad parts because the rest is so good.
another reason why I like the Great Wall
As a transformer fan I did not see this film at all and did not here nothing about this film until now and great video man :]
"Do you want to turn a pen and paper child game into a movie franchise?"
"If Disney can turn a ride into movie franchise, it will do!"
Answer to question for today: the man can clearly make a film. It's just we know all his cinematic beats and tropes that they just become one dimensional. I still watch The Rock today and I fast fwd to Act 3 of Dark of the Moon. But his whole boobs, explosions, and American Flag in every scene is becoming a gimmick than a thematic element to film.
have you seen Ambulance ? (his most recent film) most people say its pretty good
@@tarzantabi7845 yes and it is good. And it's a testament that the guy knows how to make a good film, when he makes his characters feel real.
The thing i learned: the World needs a Schindlers Liste Remake with a tiny humping robot made by michael boom bay
We have something similar, it's called the MLK Jr Celebration Event in Fortnite.
"How to Get Steven Spielberg to Leave Universal in 5 Easy Steps:"
I had fun watching the combat scenes. Technological disparities, aliens, stupid people. This movie is just fun.
0:04 "I'm a great guy, like Mr. *B ə ə s t."*
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War.
"Either you die a villain or you live long enough to see yourself become the hero."
Used in this context makes kinda no sense
@@Super-7327 I'm confused
@@huntercorrales6794 maybe it's the recognition being given to Bay?
@@ojeritoayala I can see that
I liked Battleship, but I think the track Thunderstruck by AC/DC played the main role in me liking it.
I'm a simple person
I really enjoyed this film. It had some great moments like I personally love the scene of the modern navy soldiers/crew working with the vets on the old WW2 battleship to get it working and battle ready
The fact that you used Wildmutt from Ben 10 for the alien dog, made you my new favorite review channel.
This is one great thing Anime gets right. Extreme characters in grounded beautiful stories.
Transformers is like that, but kinda Hollywoodified.
Nah, not even close.
Not gonna lie, I really thought this was a Michael Bay movie until now
It can't be. The trophy hot girl is actually an adult.
@@blaisetelfer8499 wut?
@@etam8099 There was a really stupid scene in the fourth Transformers film, which was directed by Michael Bay obviously, where they literally tried explaining to the audience how one of the main characters' relationships with an underage main character was somehow fine and dandy.
I actually enjoyed battleship a lot more than transformers, probably because battleship was without all the extra bullshit that was in transformers
The intro killed me, such a greatly made and humorous intro!
I was laughing for 10 minutes over Leonardo DiCaprio calling out they’re not gonna sync this battleship scene. Well done.
I remember being a teen when the movie was coming out, and trailer made it look like the most awesome blockbuster ever. I didn't get a chance to see it in theaters so I spent like 30 bucks of my bday money on the blue ray release box, brought it home and watched it that night. Fell asleep like 2/3rds through lmao I don't remember basically anything except the Roly poly alien balls and the part where they played battleship using the buoys.
This movie sucked lol
I feel so sorry for you, holy shit
This movie sucked.
Sums up a lot of movies nowadays
@@adriannaranjo4397 i feel bad for teenage me too. This along with the clash of the titans remake were some of the first steps for me to realize "you won't like every movie/ not every movie is good or made equal"
I feel sorry for your 30 bucks lmao
gimme a list of 5 movies you actually liked. I'm trying to get a feel for your taste in movies.
I lowkey love battleship.Granted it’s mostly all nostalgia but my family loves that stupid movies and I once went on a cruise and they put on that movie and that was so funny
I actually loved this film. It's a gem.
same. I won't deny Marvel's cinematic and monetary achievement, but I do regret it in that we just won't have anything like Battleship for some time, if at all.
Not enough shaky cam and sweaty characters to be a Michael Bay flick. This same guy made Lone Survivor and the difference between films is insane
I WAITED FOR THIS LIFE TIME..... Bcuz I enjoyed it..... Like u filmento
fail but still fun to watch for me. The drifting battle ship scene is one of the badass moment in blockbuster movie, come on that is so freaking cool.
Agreed!
To be honest, I liked this movie much more than Transformers. Battleship actually feels like a sci-fi film from time to time, while Transformers was just... well... Transformers.
My reaction to Transformers becoming a movie: Awesome! I can't wait to see Optimus Prime on the big screen!!!!
My reaction to Battleship becoming a movie: What? Why? It's a board game.
I actually liked battleship because of the historical ships
Never thought it could happen but Filmento actually made me appreciate Michael Bay a bit. Gotta say, as stupid as his movies are he does have some semblance of a creative vision when making them.
I thought Battleship was beautiful. It was just an absolute masterpiece for a movie based on a board game. Especially the fact that they used the Tsunamis Buoys as the coords for attack. Just beautiful in my opinion.
This video is honestly the first time I've even heard of the movie, which is probably a bad sign
A bad sign that you live under a rock, cuz this movie was known
I heard it in an odd1sout video once that was it
I LOVE the mic drop in the end! 👏👏👏👏
Battleship was a lot of fun imo. I enjoyed it
You know what kind of alien invasion movie concept I would love to see? Basically it starts off with some alien who escape from its home colony for whatever reason and during the chase their ship got shot and it flew down towards Earth. Some unlucky human finds this escapee alien and has to protect them from the government and the alien colony when they eventually decide to enter Earth. War between them breaks out, yadda yadda yadda, until at one point it is revealed that this alien escapee is actually a convict who has been going around blowing up planet after planet and the aliens were only trying to capture them before they could destroy the Earth or whatever so both sides join forces to capture them before the world ending event happens.
The fact that I was able to watch a video essay featuring Michael Bay's cinema, and I actually learned important aspects of good movie-making is a testament to how well put together this video essay is 🙌 Thank you for another quality video!
It’s funny as hell to me how he opens with “why did this movie underperform despite similarity to transformers”. Bro their similarities are on the smallest scale possible. Battleship NEVER would’ve had the same impact as transformers. Battleship underperformed compared to TF simply because they are damn near not similar at all
He meant in form, execution and premise; not plot, argument and script.
I enjoyed Battleship more than any other Transformers movie tho