The Rise of Skywalker - How to Fail at Endgame | Anatomy Of A Failure
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- Half a decade into the Disney generation of Star Wars, we finally got the sequel trilogy conclusion with Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker... and it's not very good. The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi might've had problems, but this film just craps the bed entirely. And while you could name a big batch of problems and also blame me for giving Disney and JJ Abrams some of the ideas that led to all this, the main weakness with this film lies in its nature of being a bad series conclusion. And in order to see what exactly is the issue, let's compare it to another recent very successful series conclusion in Marvel's MCU -- Avengers Endgame. Rise of Skywalker tried to copy paste a lot of same things from Endgame but still managed to fail at all of them. Let's see how to fail at Endgame.
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Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (2019)
The remaining traces of the Resistance movement assemble in their quest to overthrow the First Order, once and for all. Each member of the Resistance must contend with both their own demons and how the events of the past have affected them, learning to overcome their struggles to create a unified front. Meanwhile, the Jedi and the Sith The Rise of Skywalker, and the Fall of Star Wars (Part 1) watch star wars the rise of skywalker online free full movie everything wrong with rise of skywalker cinemasins honest trailers star wars rise of skywalker rise of skywalker rant 4k clip hd scene rise of skywalker ending palpatine ben solo rey rise of skywalker bad rise of skywalker jedis speech rey palpatine avengers endgame Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker: An Unbridled Rage Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker - Angry Review! Honest Trailers | Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker approach their final face-off, bringing centuries of contention to a head. At the heart of it all is Rey (Daisy Ridley), the former orphan who stands as the Resistance's last hope as the galaxy's remaining Jedi knight. Directed by J.J. Abrams.
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Avengers: Endgame (2019)
After the events of Infinity War leaves half of the universe in ruins, the remaining Avengers must work together to recruit old and new allies, and muster all of their remaining strength and resources to defeat the mad titan Thanos and bring their friends back from the brink of oblivion. Directed by Anthony and Joe Russo and stars an ensemble cast that includes Robert Downey Jr., Chris Hemsworth, Mark Ruffalo, Chris Evans and major stars from previous Marvel films.
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)
Rian Johnson (Looper, Brick) wrote and directed this installment of the Star Wars saga, which picks up where The Force Awakens left off. Rey (Daisy Ridley) learns the ways of the Force from Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill), and develops a telepathic bond with Kylo Ren (Adam Driver), who is struggling to master the Dark Side. Meanwhile, Stormtrooper-turned-Resistance fighter Finn (John Boyega) teams up with pilot Poe Dameron (Oscar Isaac) and maintenance worker Rose Tico (Kelly Marie Tran) for a risky mission behind enemy lines. Carrie Fisher, Domhnall Gleeson, Benicio Del Toro, Gwendoline Christie, and Laura Dern co-star.
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Avengers: Infinity War (2018)
Iron Man (Robert Downey Jr.), Spider Man (Tom Holland), Thor (Chris Hemsworth) and all the other Avengers unite to assemble their power in order to fight the necessary battle against their biggest collective enemy, Thanos (Josh Brolin), before he can wreak his havoc across the entire world. Scarlett Johansson, Benedict Cumberbatch, Vin Diesel, Chris Evans, Karen Gillan, Zoe Saldana, and Dave Bautista also star. Directed by Anthony Russo and Joe Russo. - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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It's not my fault. Here's proof.
Jabba the huttfather
How's it ur fault? Were they mentioned ur name?
It's Moviemento's fault.
The fact they did the same stuff you said in the last SW video is like an insult to your film criticism. Personally, you're not as wrong as comments say you are. The movie did it poorly and the only thing people would be remembering from this movie is the Nostalgia of it, which shouldn't be the only good thing of a Star Wars movie.
it's not your fault, it's already broken from the beginning
"No lead-up, no build-up, no set-up, no kind of 'up' whatsoever."
Wrong, it was a major fuck-up.
Nice
ha
😂😂
You win “best comment” today.
Amen.
This movie just makes the end of Return of The Jedi pointless:
-Palpatine was still alive
-The Empire wasn't defeated
-New Republic was a failure
-Now there are thousands of planet destroying weapons so destroying the 2nd Death Star was like killing another stormtrooper.
-Anakin didn't bring balance to the force Rey was the real chosen one
-The jedi didn't return.
Yeah. Pretty much.
Hell all the other planet destroying weapons were stationary. These ones were mobile and had some crazy force field.
So even having a death star in the first place has become obsolete.
In my mind canon the new trilogy is just shitty fanfic.
BuT pAlpAtinE wAs a Cl0n3 tHouGh!!!!111!!
Yeah that's why it's a sequel.
Hold on this movie DIDN'T shit on "The empire wasn't defeated" alone ... all 3 films took a big dump at that, and i think the one that deserves the blame the most is TFA because it just starts with a new empire that already took over most of the galaxy again. But to this movie's "credit" they did that stupid overcomplicated explanation about how Palpatine while still being the ruler of the galaxy, played dead, made the First Order to be his new empire, but whitout telling anyone he was there but replaced the public figure of the leader with Snoke who was controlled by him, fine don't reveal yourself, then Kylo kills Snoke and takes over the FO to the point that Palpatine has to bargain with him, then after Kylo couldn't kill Rey, Palps just replaces him with Pryde as the new leader and everyone in the FO accepts it without consequences, not to mention Pryde even says the emperor always had allies... why bother with the secrets and snoke and all that if he created the damn thing and also all the people in it would have followed his commands... again!... this movie is stupid.
even Disney doesn’t know how Palpatine returned so they literally just had Poe say
“SOMEHOW Palpatine has returned”
It’s insultingly stupid writing. The actor looks ashamed that he had to utter those dreadful lines.
Palpatine, "Fools, I gained ANIME POWERS!"
Poe, "My god... HE'S UNSTOPPABLE NOW!!"
XD
@@Alondro77 he learned the power of friendship
Kylo ren was like: Hello there. Palpatine was resurrected and was like: General Kenobi
He could have said : The plot required palpatine to return.
Imagine if Endgame just started with "Somehow, Thanos collected all the Infinity Stones."
Actually, that's how the Infinity Gauntlet comic started.
@@berengustav7714 he-
Imagine if Avengers: Endgame 2: Return of Thanos starts with "Somehow, Thanos returned. Also somehow Iron Man returned."
@@viljamtheninja thanos can easily return just get stones back and then snap
@@creeperYT9824 stones is gone
The sad thing is…
Palpatine forgot to tell Rey the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise
I feel like this movie is going to give us some quality YTP content
It's treason then
😂😂😂
So it is impossible to learn this power?
Ethan Pang not for a Sith
"your parents were nobodies. they sold you for drinking money."
"oh also you're the granddaughter of the most powerful individual in the galaxy."
Pick one, Disney.
Oh, and Rey even though your original motivation was to find out who you are and where you came from, let ignore that for like 2 movies, then have a ancient space wizard that was killed by being thrown down a near bottomless pit on an exploding super-weapon which fell from space and crashed into one of Endor’s moons as a fiery wreck 40yrs ago but is still alive because reasons, vaguely hint that you’re his granddaughter without telling you diddly-squat about ever having a son or daughter to be your mom or dad, just for you to absently accept what the galaxy’s greatest manipulator tells you without even the Will of The Force as proof as just fact, only for none of it to matter because you want to identify as a Skywalker now having about as much of a connection to their name as you did Palpatine’s, and before you steal the Skywalker identity for yourself be sure to randomly kiss your probably-not-cousin? on the mouth to give his dying body one last thrill before Ben angst himself back to life in time for the next trilogy so we can milk this franchise all over again!
it's the old "certain point of view" schtick...
This was JJ giving Rian the middle finger. Which he does a few times in the movie. Amusing, but a good movie it does not make.
"We're going to use multiple directors to tell a contigious story, but also give every one complete creative freedom with no guidelines."
Well everyone got so mad i cant blame them for backtracking
Don’t really agree with bringing back Palpatine because I feel like it ruins Anakins sacrifice.
I mean, they copied that plot line from legends. They did so very badly, but they copied it nonetheless
@@anna-flora999 yeh and that’s probably one of my least favourite legends storylines
I remember hearing about that and thinking: "Ha, that's so stupid, glad that won't be in the new films."
It's all about Anakin...
@@runningcommentary2125 lol SAME. When they said they weren't following legends, one of my first thoughts was "Oh great. Now I don't have to deal with that stupid Palpatine returned nonsense!" Oh how naïve I was.
oscar Isaac died inside on the delivery of "somehow palpatine has returned"
He couldn't believe it himself 😂
Reminds me of an interview where he said "I should have just let them kill me" lmao
@@samanthablack7990 also when he said he would only return to star wars to get another house
Inside his mind:
EVERYDAY I WAKE UP
THEN I START TO CRINGE UP
LONELY AS AN ACTOR WITH A BAD LINE
EVERYDAY I START OUT
DESTROY LUCAS' ART OUT
ONE BY ONE, END OF STAR WARS LOOOOOOOOVE
I honestly feel bad for the entire cast. I'm glad Oscar's been doing a lot of work on other big projects out there.
I even feel sorry for Daisy Riddley, because she seems really nice ... but she just doesn't work as an actress for me. Her strength is that she has "leading lady" looks, but even in that movie with Tom Holland, she just feels so stiff and blank. (I mean hey, I'm bad at emoting, too, but that's also why I'm not a professional entertainer.) I still wish her luck and success in her future endeavors, whatever they may be.
The Children of Thanos were way more memorable than the Knights of Ren
Damn. That's true.
And the Children of Thanos are basically generic disposable goons
TheUsuallySilentOne I agree
Miguel Pereira Besides Maw
@@miguelpereira9859
How sad is that though that said "disposable goons are more memorable than the Knights of Ren?
Sequel Trilogy: "Look how old you've gotten."
The Original Trilogy: "Something far worse has happened to you."
Sequel Trilogy: You're so right
*slashes Original Trilogy's head from 5 different camera angles*
@@DeadKraken
Prequels teleport behind the Sequel Trilogy and whispering in its ears: *Hello there*
Before the Sequel trilogy gets torn apart in a powerful, fast and swift strike
*silence*
The Prequels stand over the dead body of the OG Trilogy, kneeling. Holding the lifeless body in its arms and tears running down the cheek
"Im sorry, old friend. I failed, I failed...you"
They burst out in crying as the screen fades to black :´(
SC38 reimagined appears out of the darkness and revives the originals
@@tramachi7027 Bootiful 😪👌
@Off The wall prequel trilogy has become more powerful than any off the trilogy s plus you gotta admit the lightsaber battles are epic in prequel trilogy there's not a single good lightsaber fight in the whole sequel trilogy seriously.
"And I.... am all of the jedi"
The amount of cringe is INSANE
It's even worse now that I know it was supposed to have the same energy as, "And I...am...Iron Man". Like, not even close, Disney.
Jar Jar Abrams is a much worse hack than Joss Whedon. Whedon was given an impossible task, a task which never should have been placed in his lap but which was because WB is evil. He has the chops to create some thing original and moving -- but WB wanted an Avengers cut and paste.
Abrams just steals other people's ideas and turns them into the film equivalent of muzak. He put zero effort in, then cashed a check and moved on to the next vampiric feast upon someone else's creativity. Thanks, nepotism.
@@nickcrawford2456 Yeah I mean I am iron-man has so much build up and power. Same as I "Am Batman"
I AM ALL OF MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@@qwertyiuwg4uwtwthn We need to hear Shadow say that in Sonic 2! (If he appears, at least)
"They're gonna attack the whole galaxy!"
"You mean all 3 planets?"
"Yes man! We're DOOMED!"
“Don’t be afraid of who your are.” Proceeds to take the Skywalker name.
this!
Exactly! I thought the same thing.
Bruh, That's literally identity theft. Someone should SUE this Mary Sue.
@@echotistical6505 that name is.....
*ironic...*
Taht pissed me off so much, hey let's just negate the entire lesson we're trying to teach by being hypocrites .
Palpatine: *Spent years planting the seeds of doubt in Anakin's head to make him join him*
Also Palpatine: Become Empress Palpatine...
Rey: No
Palpatine: *Welp, i give up*
Palpatine: Kill me and I will possess your body.
Rey: *kills Palpatine, and is just fine (after being resurrected)*
@Jason Smith I don't think the movie properly established that, if that was their intention. It also wouldn't make sense in terms of light/dark -- why would the dark side reward the victim and not the antagonist? The Sith don't believe in helping the weak.
That also wasn't a limitation for the books: Palpatine's body looked decrepit because his extensive dark-side use had physical ramifications, a la E=mc^2; the physical life powered the Force, so he recharged his Force batteries by replacing his own body, and at all times he was the perp and not the victim.
Jason Smith cope for a shit story full of plot holes
Jason Smith When was that ever stated?
Jason Smith Wait, so if Rey had to kill him when he’s weak, why the hell would Palpatine absorb Rey’s power, making him stronger and Rey weaker?
Do you not have any critical thinking skills or what?
If they wanted the character back, all they had to do was make him Palpatine's son, who it turns out was manipulating the First Order in the background this whole time, trying to rebuild the empire he thought he would inherit when his father died. It could turn out that he was hunting down his little sister for two films- she had been snatched away and hidden to save her from being slaughtered by her brother because she was a threat to his dream of domination.
wow. that's actually a pretty decent idea. Way better than this anyhow.
Or it wasn't her parents that left her on Jakku; maybe her father knew Palpatine was going to take over his body so he sent her off with someone who had instructions to leave her somewhere her father had never been so that Palpatine couldn't find her
That’s a pretty good idea.
Further proof that sometimes the fans have better ideas than the 'real' creators.
The Rise of Skywalker feels like an essay that JJ procrastinated on until the midnight before the deadline, and was just pushed out so that he could have the _slightest_ chance of somehow passing the 4th grade.
Another issue is that they switched director back and forth like underwear.
JJ did Lost and Fringe and was good at it. Yes both have their flaws, but it shows that the man isn't an idiot.
If one person would've written and directed the trilogy, we might've gotten a conclusive, connected story arc over 3 movies.
Lol so true. How would you describe LJ?
One of those kids that's "bad at test taking"
Disney’s so bad at stealing stuff, even from themselves.
Lmao ..
They stole Ghidorah's lightning scene
@@SakurakoLover I never noticed but now I see that it's true
Dude, Disney steal stuff since the 30's!
marça F... Disney for Real tho
Disney: You turned our fanbase against me?
Lucasfilm:
You have done that yourself
Disney: I have brought strong females, diversity and justice to MY new trilogy
Fans: you’re new trilogy?
@@livesathome2475 you are new trilogy?
@@Dead25m yes i am a new trilogy
I’d watch you. Lol.
great dialogue man and also ... only a sith deals in absolutes
Fun fact: I actually fell asleep during The Rise of Skywalker. Wasted money on the cinema and woke up to Rey kissing Kylo.
I can only imagine the look on your face.
LOL, I couldn't imagine THAT being when you woke up. I bet you thought you were in a nightmare!
@@polic72andDrD3ath That is very accurate :D
I feel sorrow for your agony.
You slept through palpatine's base boost lightning? 😂
The main issues that doomed the Disney trilogy:
- no overarching concept, the whole thing was just made up as they go
- 2 different directors who seemed to be wanting to outdo each other.
- 1 of them reportedly didn't do his 'homework' on the franchise, rather than being more concerned with "subverting expectations"
All of this made it all disconnected and seemingly shitting on everything the fans loved.
So palpatine was noobmaster69 the whole time!? Now that’s subverting my expectations
Can people shut up about noobmaster69 he’s a gamer in a fictional universe who was threatened by the god of thunder
@@axelnilsson5124 online bullying is a serious problem in New Asgard
Khaled Zaidan only if the new Asgard player is friends with the king
@@axelnilsson5124 Lol, ever heard of something called a joke?
The Plastic Metalhead Shitposter I have but it’s not very funny
Reminder that Han didn't become a force ghost, it was just Kylo's imagination. He just decided to forgive himself by pretending his father did.
The Disney trilogy was a mistake
Actually it was Leia.
Yeah thats right. He murders his dad in cold blood and he basically just tells himself the equivalent of "he'd want me to be happy".
Tbh the Han/Chewie/Rey/Fin meet up in Episode 7 was the scene, i enjoyed the Most in the whole Trilogy
It's absolutely a psychotic episode. Kylo Ren had finally gone completely off the deep end and is hallucinating his father forgiving him for the deaths of potentially trillions of people.
And it's practically the best scene in the movie, which is embarrassing.
@@vsGoliath96 ohh yea, he did destroy like 3 planets. Boy, they sure did try sweeping that one under the rug.
Getting sudden goosebumps when Portals music popped up, that's how powerful Endgame scene was.
I still can't believe that the climax of the mainline Star Wars saga ended with a lame lightning power struggle battle that even DragonBall Z would've been embarrassed of.
God I felt that Right and the guts😢
In the Cinema where i watched the Movie someone in the audience really shouted "I AM IRONMAN"
That's hilarious 😂😂😂
/thathappened
The cinema where I watched It was just straight Up empty.
Looks like people already knew It was shit (This was the day of release by the way) And this cinema is always usually full
@@basementkidd6818 yikes
🧢
During the movie, when Kylo Ren climbed out of the hole and stood up, I turned to my friend and said “oh that’s why it’s called Rise of Skywalker” and she burst out laughing.
i think it's cause Kylo had a u know what when they kissed
Thanks for the giggles lol
The Skywalker Rises. *ding*
"Roll credits"
@Sebastian Thor Other way around, I kept stealing her popcorn
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The entirety of the MCU: Controlled by A Man who wants to honor who came before him by building a Live Action Comic Book Universe, ultimately culminating in a memorable batch of stories that will be remembered for millennia to come.
The entirety of the Sequel Trilogy: A Trap controlled by a Company buying everything for the sole purpose of Nostalgia Baiting and hired a woman who has no knowledge of the 4 decades of films that came before. Ultimately resulting in a physical representation of the only thing they are interested in... Your Wallet.
Why do ya'll think Disney controlled the production of these movies exactly?
Lucasfilm had full control there's never even been a single person who said Disney interfered in the series
@@mitchellhorton9382 u right. It's JJ Abrahams fault not Disney
@@clyne8835 *abrams
I keep forgetting that Lando is in this movie.
Imagine if Luke learned Vader was his father from some random storm trooper
Maybe someone with an actual connection with Luke,like idk,Mara Jade?
*Luke sneaks around cloud city nearby stormtroopers while Vader walks by.*
*Stoemtrooper:* Luke Skywalker's father.
*Luke:* No..no that's impossible!!!
*Stormtrooper:* I think that guy should search his feelings.he knows it's true.
*Luke:* NOOOOOO!!!
Or better yet, that three tiddied alien told him while he was milking her.
“THATS NOT *SssSh* NOT TRUE! *SQUIRRT* THATS IMPOSSIBLE” *SSSHSS SQUIRT*
Sequel trilogy logic in a nutshell
imagine if Obi Wan would have just told him everything in his house, in: Ep. 4, A New Hope
"Oh Luke, Btw The right hand of the Imperator is your father, He is a massmurderer and a Sithlord, he looks that robotic, because i cut off his limbs and let him burn alive on a lavaplanet,. He was like a brother for me once, before he killed all Jedi ... and this women in that Hologram is Princess Leia from Alderan, she is your Sister" "And now you will have to face the whole empire and blow up their deathstar"
I see a great irony how 'Star Wars'; the franchise that inspired most, if not all, blockbuster franchises today; ended as a clone to one of those franchises.
lived long enough to see it become the villain i suppose
We learned the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise live
Ironic.
The last good Star Wars movie came out in 83 🤷♀️
It was James Bond that started it. All Star Wars did was turning the film industry into a toy factory.
Three ways you could've made a better sequel trilogy:
#1. Have a plan - while it's fine in principle to encourage diverse artistic talents to bring their own creative energy and angles to a Star Wars picture, you still need to ground those sometimes reckless impulses within a well-constructed and thorough narrative structure. It's pretty clear JJ abhors being pinned down in this way but it would've saved a lot of time, money and reputational trauma.
#2. Get the lead casting right - Daisy Ridley recently expressed surprise that her work in these films hasn't led to any other big offers. I can clear it up for her: it's because you can't act, Daisy. Fundamentally there's nothing wrong with the character of Rey as a central protagonist, at least as far as she's established in TFA. The big problem (aside from her development, which I'll get to) is the actress chosen to play her is so unbelievably badly cast, and posseses a screen presence that compares poorly with some of the background matte paintings from the original trilogy. With her Sloane Square accent, flawless, plump alabaster skin (despite 20 years spent scavenging in a desert wasteland) and soft physique, Daisy Ridley's Rey is every inch the pampered, privately educated English stage-school baby, and about as far from the tough, resourceful and resolute survivor we're clearly meant to take her for as it's possible to imagine. Adam Driver fares a little better (being a better actor generally), but his melodramaticly villainous Kylo Ren comes off mostly as a moody Millennial with impulse-control issues, and his attempts to inject emotional substance into the role are hampered by an apparent limit of only two or three facial expressions.
#3. Develop interesting characters and allow them to grow - although the Star Wars saga always took place against a cosmically huge narrative of intergalactic warfare, what made it work was not the vast spectacle but the way this broad canvas was merely the colourful backdrop for some intimately observed character studies. Even the prequels, despite their corny dialogue and notoriously terrible acting, depicted the rise and fall of Anakin Skywalker with a surprising amount of depth. By casually trashing much of the earlier films' established tropes and presenting a 2-dimensional stereotype of a idealistic, pure and noble heroine who's naturally the greatest ever at everything she attempts, Rey is robbed of the rousing journey toward proficiency in force manipulation and personal enlightenment that we as an audience might reasonably expect, and her ability to overcome obstacles instantly and easily erases any sense of drama or suspense. After a while you realise nothing bad will ever happen to her, and everyone will always flock to her aid, because she's just so great, I guess. Both Luke and Anakin in their respective trilogies had to overcome multiple failures, defeats, even mutilation by light saber, and both struggled against the lure of the dark side (one unsuccessfully). Rey experiences no such struggles, and thus remains the exact same uncomplicated paragon in the last picture as in the first. Thus it's much harder to become invested in her, and her eventual, inevitable victory over her opposition lacks any kind of resonance. This an utter failure of narrative storytelling, and feels like an almost deliberate expression of contempt for the source material and its conventions, one in keeping with the lack of respect shown the original property by the Mouse House through all its now myriad exploitations of the Lucas IP.
Disney, if you're still watching, maybe think some of this over next time. Just a suggestion.
You're so right about Daisy god. The girl comes from a privileged well-off white family but acts like she's being treated unfairly. Idk how tf she got any jobs in this industry or graduated from acting school. She has the acting ability of a plank of wood. You'd think a character like Rey would be tanned or something, considering she's lived in the scorching desert ALL HER LIFE. And you're so right about Driver's performance as well! "His attempts to inject emotional substance into the role are hampered by an apparent limit of only two or three facial expressions." Even when mans was sad, he barely moved his face. Boyega and Isaac are excellent actors and should've had bigger roles than Rey.
Daisy and Adam are actually both very good actors you should maybe try other movies with them, especially "Marriage Story" with Adam Driver and the Scarlett Johansen is awesome.
Still she doesn't answer your calls, huh?
Sequel trilogy isn't canon. LEGENDS is Canon!!!
They could have just put the yuuzhan vong war on screen and had a 1000000% better trilogy.
both of them aren't Canon. Star Wars ends with Return of the Jedi and stop. No more Sith, balance in the Force, no more empire. Everything else is "fanmade"
@@Ale-dd3ek the lucas six movies are the only canon. everything else is expanded universe and can be dismissed.
True, we need real new villains, no more storm troopers!!!!
@@Ale-dd3ek not anymore.
The scene with Han was laughable. Kylo is basically forgiving himself for murdering his dad and justifying it via hallucination.
Delusional much like the people who worked on these movies
Hey, it didn't made me a laugh
Do you have sense of humor or something
This joke isn't funny
BTW this movie was bad
Also no, this makes that why he hated his dad and dude
Seriously imagine your dad forgive you when you did dirty to him
It wasn't a hallucination but Leia using everything she was left with to project herself as Han and talk to Kylo. It was there for Kylo to realise that it is not too late and even after all that has happened he still has a chance at Redemption similar to his Grandfather who did much worse shit but at the end gave up his life to save his son.
@@Crinjal_2611 that was clearly some magic stuff. There are talking animals remember
@TrainerblueTube I'm pretty sure that's official canon. Han Solo was not a Force sensitive and hence cannot project himself as a ghost. Even if he was a somehow Force sensitive you can't just project yourself as a Force ghost.
It was Leia who projected herself as Han and talked to Kylo
It feels like everyone’s trying to have their own giant Endgame moment without the build up or well established characters
That’s JJ Abrams for you. He has absolutely no creativity. He just sees something original and that people like, so he blatantly rips it off and puts it into his own shitty movie.
yeah but Endgames "moment" was a SJW shit show. horribly done, not all that memorable, and just...just no.....and they cheated the audience out of the Hulk/Thanos rematch.....what the hell!?!?!?
@@justindearmond1 that was just a missed opportunity, that is all
Also endgame did waste its climax
@@justindearmond1 So because of a 10 second shot where some women stand together, that makes the entire 3rd act an SJW mess? The culmination of 22 movies and 10 years of filmmaking, a completely unprecedented cinematic event? Fucking come on dude. Just say you hate/are afraid of women and that you know nothing about film and move on.
Intimidator 305 is the best Giga coaster [••] Endgame wasn’t well established either
9:50. And they introduce the Knights of Ren by showing that two random storm troopers feel free to insult them in a small corridor before they even finish walking past - not very intimidating.
If the stormtrooper armor can literally be penetrated with an ARROW or a SINGLE BLAST they’re completely useless
Tbf the arrow went through the visor, not the armor
I just hope that they'll say, "haha, just kidding! That trilogy was a fever dream of Luke!" Then proceed to make actual quality film. 🙏
It’s modern Disney, and as much as we wish that were true, it will most likely never happen. At the most, it would be a very average entry. At the worst, another weak movie
If they just let one person direct all three movies it would have been different. Imagine if one director made Infinity War and then they hired someone else to film Endgame, the tone everything would have changed.
Too late Carey Fisher unfortunately is actually gone and Mark Hamil has suffered from political dementia over the past 4 years...
Nothing is the same....and everybody knows....everybody knowsssss...everybody knows
*they tried*
Nah it made money therefore by tje laws of capitalism this is what we want, ergo, make more. The only way to stop it is to stop buying it.... That's it
Franchises that are changed and marketed at kids, eventually die, the true fans have grown up, but the company is out of touch with it’s now adult fanbase, because they’re now trying to bring in both adults and kids.
And you get a mess of crap and feel good stories... and stupid kid logic.
The first time I watched TROS, I cringed when Poe said “Some how, Palpatine returned”
Now, I just laugh
His face when saying that, he looks like he's thinking "seriously guys, are you really going to make me say that stupid line ?"
I haven’t watched any of the new trilogy so that was the first time I saw that scene and... really?
REALLY?
R E A L L Y? THAT’S WHAT THEY WENT WITH??????
Oscar Isaac gave up mid-sentence, and I honestly can't blame him
"They fly now!"... Damn he had bad lines...
"Somehow...palpatine flies now"
5:34 I love how filmento pointed out that the build up through fortnite was a terrible idea by not even telling you.
When Palpatine said: I am- I was like “are they actually copying Endgame” and I thought he was going to say Inevitable. And in that moment I knew Rey was gonna say something like Iron man said. It was really predictable. And when all the ships arrived looked like the Portals scene.
Korg saying “Thor, he’s back” in Endgame fits too perfectly in that fortnite cutscene
XxXNoob_MasterXxX
I didn’t even realise that Kylo was fighting Knights of Ren at the end. That is how well communicated that was in the movie!
Same here man, I just watched this and was like "oh really". Thats shit was news to me
I just thought it was random guards. Not deadly warriors that have been talked about through the trilogy
Stormtrooper: oH, THosE ARe tHe NiGHts oF ReN
*spoons rattling*
Other stormtrooper: cOo0oOOo0OL!
*spoons rattling*
Other stormtrooper: cOo0oOOo0OL!
In the Re-release they'll have those two stormtroopers to explain it to you, just casuallyhanging out and this will be their lines: "Knights of Ren" "No shit, Sherlock"
‘Somehow Palpatine returned’
Don’t feel bad Poe. The writers don’t know why he’s back either.
@CHB Ryan 'Poe Will Remember That' flashed briefly on the screen during the conversation
If you keep in mind that a certain Star Wars Legends author got _death threats_ for killing off Chewie, it makes sense that Disney decided to keep him.
so basically: "don't build a roof for a house that doesn't exist."
That or "putting the cart before the horse". There are a lot of cautionary idioms that can be applied to this movie.
@@mar10ssj1 I think the (vast) majority of cautionary idioms in existence can be applied to this movie.
Wow
more like: don't build a roof for a house that just got demolished by the very people you were trying to build it for.
@@Shadowkey392 then call the people whom you wrecked the house man babies because they are mad you wrecked their house by saying "Wtf are you so mad about, this roof costs a billion dollars!!"
Cap: *looks defeated with broken shield
(Poe: *looks defeated with broken fleet)
Falcon: On your left
(Lando: On your left)
Marvel characters we care about: *appear
(Resistance reinforcements we don't give a shit about: *appear)
* *Avengers theme plays* *
(* *Star Wars theme plays* *)
Thanos: I am inevitable
(Palpatine: I am all the Sith.)
Tony: And I am Iron Man.
(Rey: And I am all the Jedi.)
*Thanos and Tony killed.
(*Palpatine & Rey killed, only having Rey to be revived because the plagiarism is too obvious at this point.)
You cant kill Mary-Sue Rey. She's the bestest ever.
Jacob Wh Khu
You need Rey alive so you can make more money- I mean movies with her
JJ Abrams doing what he does best.
Oh my god, you're right.
Come on rise of skywalker get your owned ideas
Can you even imagine growing up with THIS generation of Star Wars movies? The young people who did must wonder how Star Wars became so popular in the first place.
Also imagine not having seen the other Star Wars trilogies and you see this for the first time; You'd have LITERALLY no idea who Palpatine is or where he's back from. I watched this movie for the first time about two weeks ago, and I almost turned it off while reading the intro creep text. It's just so... out-of-nowhere-for-no-reason-ish.
The OT and the prequels did a better job establishing Palpatine as the bad guy:
The OT showed him as the true master behind the empire with Vader basically just his disc one boss that isn't pure evil. It also shows only late what the emperor is really capable of.
And the prequels show his slow rise to power, his manipulative side. How he gains that more influence with wide acceptance of the people, only to not let go afterwards.
The ships in rise of Skywalker feel so much more emotionless because in endgame, portals was like a whole 2 minute sequence with some of the greatest film music ever composed
Filmento:
"... to clear MY name once and for all."
Disney:
"What about us?"
Filmento:
"TH-cam accounts are free."
I really liked TROS. ( :
Adam Ferry then counter the points he made in this video , bro you don’t even know how Palpatine is still alive
Adam Ferry tHEy FLy noW!!!! This movies dialogue was terrible
@@tanner6184 it's alright, if you look into it, it's guaranteed you'll hate it, but he chooses not to, and he enjoys it, so let him enjoy it
"Its just empty noise". That's how the whole movie felt.
Hello there
General kenobi
They need to go home and rethink their lives.
@@anubusx I wish I could mind trick them into making a better movie.
@@GeneralKenobi75
Tell Disney to stop making Star Wars movies and live action adaptations of their animated films.
10:00 showcases the whole problem with the whole sequel trilogy: Nothing anyone does carries any meaning as long as Rey is somewhere in the general vicinity because she could simply have done it faster and easier.
The core problem is that there is simply nothing that is in any way meaningful. Not even people dying has any meaning. Chewie dies, whoops, no, he's ok. We get arrested, whoops, no, we're free. We sink in quicksand, whoops, no, it just takes us to the next chapter.
There isn't anything at stake in this movie.
“You can’t eat your cake and have it too.” THANK YOU for being someone who uses this expression correctly!
Senseless as it may be.
@@anna-flora999 it makes sense. You can't eat something (cake) and expect to still have it. That's what it means.
When me and my family were in the theatre, my dad told me at the end “the only way this could get worse if the Ewoks make an appearance”, and one minute later the Ewoks made their cameo. Both me and my dad laughed pretty hard at that.
Therapist: Palpathanos doesn't exist, he can't hurt you
Palpathanos in the thumbnail:
Anonymous Animation Critic Nah I think his name should be Palpanos
Do you know the tragedy of Darth Plagueis, the unbalanced?
I hate you for the meme, but the pun is just too good.
Creamy Sheev Palpathanos
Ahem, Palpatinos!
15:54 The music itself is hitting me with a thousand nuclear strikes at once. Truly can't shake off endgame from my head
I was a big fan of Star Wars growing up. My dad and I would watch it every May 4th, and we’d eat snacks and have fun seeing our favorite characters. I never dove too deep into Star Wars lore, but I had a firm understanding of the themes and concepts presented by the original and prequel trilogy. It just... hurts to see that the sequel trilogy not only ignored those themes, but constantly contradicted them in this twisted mess of throwing shit at a wall to see what sticks.
To me, the entire trilogy felt like a weird fever dream, lazily moping about from one unoriginal concept to the next, pulling every punch and impact possible. I felt no attachments to any characters, I could literally feel the actors reading off the script that no amount of good acting could hide.
It’s almost offensive to me that after all the love and adoration I had built up for Star Wars throughout my childhood, Disney decided to spend 4 billion dollars on a trilogy with no roadmap or plan other than to fit as much merchandising opportunities as possible (which even that failed somehow, I don’t really see many toys and stuff for it)
I still can't believe they copied the "And I am.."line from Endgame like nobody would notice. Shameless
I think they did it intentionally as marvel fan service so that people who liked Endgame would say something like "oh that is what they said in endgame, cool!" But instead backfired horribly
We're talking about JJ Abrams here. All he does is ripoff or copy and paste other people's work.
"I am" lines are not even original to start with...
That's what jar Jar Abrams does; he copies the work people more talented than him. JJ is a quote from Pablo Picasso that was brought to life and given a pair of hipster glasses and a nose that looks like a penis: "Good artists create, great artists steal."
@@DaMaster012 I love that Jar Jar fits so perfectly with his name lol
Guard 1: "The knights of Ren."
Guard 2: "Cool."
WHY WASN"T THIS MOVIE GIVEN AN EMMY FOR WRITING!!!!!!
Andrew Hershberger U mean Oscars?
Nirawit Karnjanasomwong I think he means Razzie
I'm pretty sure he said "ghouls"
"They FLY now!"
"They fly now?!"
" -_- ...THEY FLY NOW."
Thought he said "Goals" lol
I mean...Thanos being a big threat was teased all the way back in the first Avengers movie and we kept on hearing about him in phase 2 and phase 3.
At 11:25 is that only time I've ever heard someone say the proverb as "you can't eat your cake and have it too". I agree that that is the correct order to say it, but I've never actually heard it said like that.
How to fail at writing anything:
Have things happen with no setup, explanation, or logical explanation.
episode 7 man!
@@user-hc9qv9yb9m Ep 7: Somehow the Empire is back even though the Republic was the major force left in the galaxy after the OG trilogy ended, somehow a woman who's never piloted a space-worthy ship can pull out pro gamer moves with the Falcon, somehow the Force is a legend after only 30 years, somehow a fuckin cleaning trooper knows the weak spot of a planet-sized weapon no one knew about(I could go on and on).
Fans: OMG I LUV IT YEEEEEEE
Ep 9- Somehow Palpatine is alive.
Fans: Oh hell naw that's bullshit!!111!!!!
As much as I like Kylo confronting Han, I always felt that Kylo's character should have meet Anakin at the end of his dark side journey. It makes sense as Anakin is canonically a force ghost, so he could appear before Kylo, but it also challenges everything Kylo has based his beliefs around.
He believed that his grandfather was a powerful Sith who's mission to conquer the galaxy was left incomplete and he seeks to complete that goal. In reality, his grandfather was a Jedi who renounced the dark side and rose up to oppose a Sith lord and redeem himself whilst saving the galaxy and those he loves from a tyrannical dictator.
So far Kylo has used Vaders name to murder his father, has faced his uncle in a stand off that lead to his uncle dying, and his battle with Rey may have been the cause of his mothers death (I'm just assuming because Leia dies when Kylo is stabbed). It would have been powerful to see him come face to face with the ghost of Anakin Skywalker merged with Darth Vader. Anakin isn't ashamed of his role as Vader, he did terrible things but used those terrible things as a way to do what he was always destined to do, strike down the Lord of the Sith.
For Kylo to confront his idol, a man who redeemed himself and gave his life for his children and the people they loved, for Kylo to see him after having killed his parents and uncle, that would be a profound and tragic reality check. For Kylo to meet the man that he killed his father for and realise that it actually hurt his idol, that would break his perception of everything and show him that he was manipulated into following in the footsteps of Vader and would be a great way to set him on the path to redemption, the path Vader took that he was never told about.
Plus it would give Hayden Christiansen another shot at redeeming himself in the role for many people by letting him appear in a film that doesn't have prequel dialogue and direction.
Granted, with how these movies went, that'd arguably be a step down from the prequels...
The fact that Anakin didn't bother to step in when Sidious was leading a member of his family down the same path he walked was ridiculous (he can make time for Rey, though)
Or, if Disney didn't feel like bringing Hayden back, they could make a CGI Sebastian Shaw just like they did with Grand Moff Tarkin in Rogue One.
That would actually be pretty interesting. Give more of a purpose of what Darth Vader/Anakin left behind . An evil, but good legacy
You forget Bevan, to have applied any of this would have required the use of logic which is something that modern Disney lacks.
I really hate that Rey shooting lightning scene. Even palpatine had to train to learn force lightning, it doesn’t just “show up”.
I always like your work and it is clear that you know about your subject and that you are discussing writing and story telling not the several thousand other aspects that take a written work and turn it into a movie. I am one of those that watches your videos and rarely comments but I would like to take the time now to tell you that I appreciate you taking the time to produce these videos and for taking the time to craft your skill and knowledge base. There are a lot of different breakdown videos out there but I connect with your style which is not emotionless but separates the elements of writing and story telling from all the distracting fluff, like peeling back the skin and seeing the written framework underneath. Once again, thank you for bringing your viewpoint to me and know that I am silent because I am quietly enjoying your work.
The Sequel trilogy was made for us to appreciate the prequels ,lol.
I wonder if the next trilogy will be so horrendous, that is makes the sequel trilogy look good.
At a one deep dark point in me i think 7-9 is just made for everyone who doesnt like 1-3 which are and always were freaking epic. Every part an absolute crazy finale...in between you always knew whats that all about...on the highest level of an star wars fan i am i would even go so far to say lowkey 1-3 > 4-6
As an actual Prequel hater, I agree... The sequel wasn't simply bad, it was just so much wasted potential and I think that's what hurts the most. At least the Prequels had a logical story.
georockstar09 the prequels had a perfectly planned story from the beginning their mistake was the bad dialogues and politics but they were still enjoyable and epic and emotional unlike the sequels
@@nerevarchthn6860 I wish they could have had a good story for the sequels :( Some of the new characters were great, there was so much they could have done with them, so much they could have explored. Now we'll never have that.
I want Lucas back I'd rather deal with bad dialogue than disney wars
@@luxinvictus9018 compared to the sequel trilogy the prequels are a masterpiece
Phantom Menace and Attack of the CLones were great. Not as good as ROTJ but still great.
Star Wars has always had bad dialogue. It's okay to live with it if the alternative is having no story.
IF anything the Clone Wars undermine the prequels. Revenge of the Sith is already powerful and heartbreaking as it is because we have two previous movies to build it up
@@luxinvictus9018 that just means that you didn't understand the meaning and the brilliance of episodes 1 and 2
“I dont like sand “and “ no because im so in love with you” from Anakin is so crincy
I'm glad I randomly found your channel. Every once in awhile youtube gets it right with their suggestions. I'd love to see a video of your thoughts on Ready or Not. Love your content and keep up the good work, while I continue binge watching.
To be fair to the final scene, having Palpatine electrifying the ships did a good job at unifying the plots and making Rey and Kylo's job to prevent him more important, however I do agree with all the points and that as a star wars film it kind of ruined the whole universe
Wrong. It's all bollocks.
That’s the only part I like, because it looks awesome
Here’s a fundamental difference between the two Portals scenes: in Rise, the cavalry arrives just after Poe gives up, in the moment when he essentially stops being a hero; in Endgame, the cavalry arrives as Cap is fully determined to face Thanos’ army alone with a broken shield. Imagine how hollow the Endgame Portals scene would feel if the portals opened just after Cap fell to his knees, or let his shield fall to the ground. But he never does. So Cap deserves the cavalry; Poe does not.
Wow great point.I didn't think of it that way.
Yes, great point!!!
That’s a really good point.
*"They made exactly your movie and it turned out bad. Dislike"* Kathleen Kennedy is that you?
This gives me flashbacks to another beloved franchise that the writers burned to the ground, and they snap at anyone who criticizes the smoldering remains, of which we can barely see because the lighting is god awful.
JJ is more to blame
@@Aredel D&D kinda forgot about the internet
@@freebee8221 Kathleen is most to blame.
Antonio Sonntag don’t even talk about it how have my 2 favourite franchises ended in a mess
16:30 "Just some old guy"
Why you got to do my man Wedge Antilles like that?
Lol. Right?
Is that who it was I genuinely didn’t know!
How Rise of Skywalker did the "Portals" scene is honestly where I think they really should've just dropped the whole "Prequels are bad except when it conveniences us" shtick they kept going at ever since they bought the property. The scene is playing off like this is generations worth of fighters finally coming together to save the world like in Endgame. Problem is, we've been there with Spiderman, Bucky, Starlord, Black Panther, etc, so it brings out a big emotional response when they're utilized for the end all be all of battles.
For Star Wars, we don't even know who these people flying in are, the movie is just relying on our emotional connection the OT because it's all Rebellion related (I know it's the Resistance, but they're just the Rebellion with a different coat of paint). I'm no expert to know the current whereabouts of all the things introduced in the Prequels in this sequel trilogy, but imagine if THEY came in. We see aliens, people, ships, and fighters from the age of the Republic coming in, to have a last chance to get back at Palpatine for all the manipulation and deception he has done that led them to their downfall. We were there when it happened, and like it or not, Disney, people LOVED that era, so it would be emotional to see them return and officially see ALL generations come together to end this long-lasting reign of terror.
But nah, you need to love the Rebellion and only the Rebellion, so we must force it all down your throat, even if this is supposed to be a finale to 9 damn chapters of a saga. Did I say 9? I'm sorry, I meant 6 chapters.
General Hux: Kills billions of people in the Force Awakens
Also General Hux: A good spy in Rise of Cringe
I'm pretty sure that he was never good. He was just being spiteful to Kylo Ren.
@@geekyradical4985 And now I ask myself : why? Why Hux hated Kylo so much that the idea of literally destroying the lifetime work of him and his father doesn't sound so bad?
Why not just trying to undermine Kylo's leadership and usurp him? Why not just trying to get him killed? Hux is not supposed to be a total retard.......
@@DeadKraken Because he's selfish it's a consistency in SW for rulers to want to rule above the ones they obey. He's aware Kylo can easily kill him. Hux is not a force user. However if their supreme leaders see's Kylo as a failure for the time being Hux would take his place.
Vader: *Kills younglings*
Also Vader: "I hate sand"
I wonder if people are aware that none of the Star Wars movies were perfect and they just have a stigma against Disney because they want to be more edgy. :[]
@@em30142 Oh, so you tell me that the best (they say)General of the First Order didn't have any other way of getting rid of Kylo Ren without compromising the whole organization? The same power-thirsty general that had literally killed his own father to gain an higher place in the Order and is so fervent about the Order's ideology that he's pretty much the face of the First Order for the rest of the Galaxy?
Selling Kylo Ren's location to the Resistance. Undermine his position, and then usurp him. Sending a killer or literally have any blaster and the surprise factor. All more rational solution than "tear the whole organization down *while winning* to maybe get rid of the new Leader".
I wonder if people are aware of the existence of good writing and don't just assume that others have stigmas towards something just because they point blatant bullshit. Also I've seen none of the OGs nor the Prequels, I grew up with Star Trek LMAO
LadyKraken one of my points when defending this movie is different peoples standards of writing. Star Wars never had perfect dialogue. Of course it’s all subjective but they’re known for that. As well as some inconsistencies like Luke and his relationship to his father and sister. So in your case I’d say this saga at least, wasn’t for you. As for Hux, again the people in the first order are selfish to the point of carelessness. It is really well done in the Vader Dark Visions comic book actually. Keeping in mind that it’s a fictional story and there’s lightsabers, they don’t try to make everything realistic? I might be using the wrong words here but it’s fantasy about the good side winning. With the bad side continually making mistakes. Due to fear, anger, selfishness. I’d say yes Hux wanted an army and to fight the resistance. However he is being belittled by Kylo. Especially after episode 8. The development with his character, he would rather see Kylo fail. If that means lose the war he probably doesn’t care. Kylo is an apprentice of a higher power. Like Vader. They are replaceable. In Star Wars, often are replaced.
The return of that “old guy” from the original trilogy, Wedge Antilles, was also a huge letdown. Wedge was the Poe Dameron of the Rebellion Era, the best pilot they had besides son of the chosen one Luke Skywalker. He survived the Battle of Yavin, was the first snow speeder to take down a walker in the battle of Hoth, and survived and dealt critical damage to Deathstar 2 at the battle of Endor... and now he’s just a gunner for Lando with a few seconds of screen time?? He should have flown in an old X-Wing like a badass and taught Poe and thing or two... the dynamic between those two ace pilots could have been epic.
100% THIS!!!!
The way he was brought back in the film actually made me angry at the end of it, i was like... that's it?
@Heavy Metal Collector no shit! lol.. I was all stoked to see Lando finally in more Star Wars and after the trailers showing him every time I thought he was going to have a substantial role in the movie but I literally looked down to grab my soda and looked back up and he was suddenly onscreen I completely missed his introduction and had to ask my friend where the fuck he even came from.
WAIT waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait wait! Wait!
That was supposed to be wedge?
And all he got was a cameo? Not even an explanation as to why he wasn't fighting in the first place?
What kind of fanservice is that?
They couldn't do that because he's old and white while Poe is young and Latino, therefore it would go against Disney's narrative. Im surprised they didnt make Wedge Antilles part of the Final Order instead.
Granted, I'm under 20, but Wedge was around that much in the originals? I only remember him at the start of 5 and maybe a little in 4. Lando was an actual main character starting in 5 so that's how I remember him.
Another thing I've wondered recently: why were the characters so shocked about _Palpatine_ coming back? How many just inside the Empire were even aware of what Palpatine was and could do? We're talking about the man who fooled the Jedi Council _while working and living alongside them,_ right up until his final ascension. And even then, knowledge of his true identity was known to very few and he was able to twist the circumstances and victimize himself in the eyes of the Senate. Six people saw him wield a lightsaber - four of them died, the fifth became his apprentice, and the sixth went into exile. And, if I remember correctly, the only characters who saw Palpatine use the Force were Anakin, Mace, Yoda, and Luke. So far as I can tell, all anyone knew about the Emperor is that he ran the Empire and commanded Vader... the latter of which was the actual iron-fisted figurehead of Imperial might, by the way. He was the one leading boarding parties, executing officers, taking an active and eminently visible role in the violent excursions. Between Snoke's rise to power, and Palpatine or Vader returning... I feel like Vader's the one that would've had the galaxy quaking.
Which means the Emperor's return wasn't actually meant to shock the characters. Just us. It's Khan all over again. I can't stand Abrams.
EDIT: To provide an MCU parallel to what this Disney trilogy did, just imagine watching Iron Man, then The Avengers, and then Endgame (starting at the 5 Years Later point).
You know that the new Republic was a thing for multiple decades, right? Enough time to spread the knowledge of sheev being a sith Lord through most of the galaxy?
Everybody gangsta till Palpatine comes back in yellow text
Lando killing that stormtrooper when Rey or even the others could’ve dispatched him quickly is a classic example of a lazy scene with no tension whatsoever.
Yes, your right. Well at least Lando made it out alive
I completely missed Lando even being introduced I looked down to grab my soda and when I looked back up he was suddenly on-screen. wtf
Just the idea that one single stormtrooper might ever, _ever_ pose a threat to these assholes is beyond absurd at this point... stormies in the sequel trilogy are nothing but cannon fodder for our plucky heroes to dispose of casually all while spouting shitty oneliners and making sure the audiences know there is no danger at all. So essentially like TCW droids (and that is a show for kids).
People may ridicule the stormtrooper aim from the OT all they like but there was an ever present sense of threat coming from them. Yes, they missed their shots but always _just_ barely and the characters never straight-out disrespected them. When the Endor squad design a plan to distract the four scouts guarding the door, you don't feel like they might as well just charge at them up-front and be finished without a scratch.
Also, why do the whole "Force teleport Rey's necklace across the universe so you can figure out what culture made it, so you can figure out what planet it came from, so you can find Rey" when the storm trooper who caught them can literally call in her location with his suit radio?
@@yarpen26 "TCW is a show for kids"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....
"there's too many of them"
"on your left"
*Poe literally turns left around the Star Destroyer*
I was thinking the same thing ahaha.
If only the ending of "The Last Jedi" included remnants of The New Republic joining the battle, and Palp being searched by Kylo Ren, after he recived some kind of call, would patch this movie a bit, explaning why The New Order would need a larger fleet, and Palp would be back
This is one of the most biggest issues with TLJ or hell the entire Sequel Trilogy really because instead of slowly but gradually build up to this finale the two directors instead does nothing but waste time in writing stuff that feels completely self-indulgent.
For JJ it's mystery boxes and nostalgia pandering, for Rian it's nothing but "subverting expectations" that are extremely lackluster in execution, goes nowhere and ultimately feels like a waste of time that could have been used to develop Knights of Ren, other galaxies and how they perceive The First Order and whenever they should help The Resistance or not and Snoke who SHOULD have been the main villain of the trilogy instead of being haphazardly killed out of nowhere and replaced by Palpatine at the last minute. And all the while it was happening Disney and LucasArts barely gave a damn about how the two directors ideas either clashed and contradicted each others or how shallow and little sense they make, just as long as the movies made money in any way.
Although to be fair Rian at least managed to redeem himself with Knives Out which if anything shows how unsuited he was for a major, epic Hollywood blockbuster Star Wars movie type like The Sequel Trilogy and works better for films like Knives Out instead. Can't really say the same thing for JJ though who if anything has gotten worse over the years to the point that The Rise of Skywalker, his latest major work as of now, is a catastrophic mess in every way.
you always do a great job putting exactly what i was thinking in the back of my mind into words.
Endgame: Omg it's all the old characters!
Rise of Skywalker: Omg it's a lot of rectangles!
You mean triangles?
wHaT'S ThE dIFfeREnCe?
@LTNetjak
Using the ultimate stuff called 'plot associated devices'
@LTNetjak rey just emailed the coordinates
Still EG was more better.
I just want to say, I watched this movie two times over two days, and I never even noticed that Kylo fought his own Knights. I was so bored by the end both times, I didn't notice a moment that they thought would mean something. I DIDNT EVEN REALISE THEY WERE IN THE MOVIE UNTIL THIS VIDEO
I had the exact same experience. It’s a bit weird to think that we’re currently going through some sort of Cultural Dark Ages in this way. This conclusion was so lame that it wasn’t even impressively poor. It was so underwhelming that ‘character’ (lack thereof) moments happened without any element of risk or drama. I vaguely remember accepting the events in that final scene and seeing people step out of the shadows... I was so beaten into mind numbingly bored boredom that I just started to accept the moving shapes that were being presented as that was the quickest way out of the theatre.
maybe there was some eagle-eyed viewers out there but i could only tell he was fighting 'bad guys' in that scene, and nothing more
EXACTLY!!!!
Part of the issue is that they don't do anything up to that point. Like, they captured Chewie off-screen basically, were shown posing, and were probably seen together with Kylo once. There was at no point anything that demonstrated those characters were capable of anything.
In all fairness; the same was true of the royal guard, but then they literally existed to empathized to show how important the Emperor was. Kylo was alone for most of his scenes.
@@MrAristaeus Do you think Star Wars is our entire culture?
I love your channel and you just are so in depth with your analysis
“The Final Order” just feels like another Disney dig at fans of the Expanded Universe because “The Last Command” is a MASSIVELY better Episode IX.
I mean rly the first 6 movies were a perfectly cohesive story with a conclusive ending. Anakin's life, fulfilling the prophecy, killing off the jedi and the sith, whose conflicts tore the galaxy for years. Thus bringing balance. Then the mouse comes alone and his sacrifice for Luke goes to the shitter.
Also the man with the strongest connection to the force lost to Dooku and Obi Wan(on dark side steroids), but this new character can use lightning without killing a single youngling.
Th prequels weren’t good movies, but they told the story they wanted to tell. And they told it perfectly, the OT also told an interesting and exciting story. While the sequels made the same story again, and with that they shat all over the old films.
The prequels were meant to be supplemental to the original trilogy, to further explore the universe and to give further context. The sequels on the other hand try to piss on the original trilogy by "letting it die" while also trying to use them for a nostalgia factor, ultimately they disgrace the original trilogy (and the prequels by proxy). God worst thing is what there's a good amount of potential in these movies but it's just wasted so badly.
@@fabianstobbe3743 yeah after the sequels i see the prequels in a far better light which is shocking to type....
@@fabianstobbe3743 The prequels told their story perfectly, but they weren't good movies? Don't be afraid to like the prequels my man, George Lucas crafted them with love and care and it shows. Most of the arguments prequel haters use are easily debunked if you actually watch the entirety of the movies.
@@gerritdeman6410 Thanks my fellow dutchman
I felt the exact same way when Rey "killed" Chewie, that shit blew my mind for the 2 minutes it lasted, it would have added such a great major flaw to this otherwise way too perfect nice character. she would beat herself up over it, try to make up for it and redeem herself, maybe even lose respect from her friends until another movie or something. that would not have saved the saga but it would have risked something and made it worth watching somewhat
Same. The way Rey screamed Chewy when she thought she killed him still gives me chills. When they brought him back I was legit upset, like I felt true emotion seeing a character I loved growing up die just to see he didnt, to make the audience go through that for what reason, what do they gain having done that. just a bad move in general.
@@CalienteQuack Attempted emotional manipulation.
When I saw that moment, I legit stood up and cursed Kathleen Kennedy in front of my parents and all the cinemagoers.
What saved this movie at first for me was that I hadn't watched the two preceding movies. I thought everything had been explained all ready. I knew all of the character from the two preceding trilogies so I just assumed "okay, everything has already been explained, I just didn't watch the movies that explained it". I thought it was a stupid movie with a ridiculous convenience packed plot but okay then. Went home watched FA and LJ and was pissed off afterwards.
Who goes to see a third part of a trilogy, without seeing the first two????
@@roellemaire1979 I meant to go see Dolittle (that and ROS were the only interesting seeming movies) but read a few bad reviews and changed my mind last minute, like literally at the ticket counter. At least I wasn't bored
Someone on a professional writing team wrote "somehow palpatine has returned" , that line alone left me buffeted.
Rey shooting lightning just because she is a Palpatine makes no sense.
This. Pisses me off. So. Damn. Much. Force abilities are not genetic. Luke needed to be trained and he lost to Darth Vader. It also has no consequence. If she actually used the lightning to destroy Sidious it would make some sense. Using her latent ability to destroy the one who gave it to her. Fiction. Because calling it fanfiction implies a fan wrote it
The funny thing is, this is basically just the extreme of the logic people used that force powers were genetic.
It was the big "proof" her parents had to be somebody after TFA. And its made canon now
@@brianbrush5107 It was just grasping at straws. I just wanted an explanation for why she was strong in the Force. If you're gonna go the way of genetics then it needs to make sense. If she's nobody then you need to offer an explanation as to what makes her so special. They did both and half assed both
@@alphabetaed3007 She had strong force potential cause...high midichlorian count.
The reason she can do the force stuff is because she heard the stories of luke and the Jedi
Brian brush i cannot tell if you’re being satirical or not
I agree that some of the problem with this movie was lack of character and plot building, but to me the ultimate problem was the lack of realism.
It just doesn't make sense that Palpatine was able to build and man such a huge armada without anyone knowing.
And it doesn't make sense how Chewie was able to rally the entire galaxy in just ~30 minutes, especially when in the last movie they couldn't get even a single ship to help them.
It was just really really bad plot armor.
I believe you're not really talking about realism, but rather about consistency.
Even if there is a reason why palpatine was able to build the fleet, why are destroyers able to carry planet destroying canons when previously you needed a moon sized based to power them? (and consistency aside, aren't planet exploding weapons boring at this point)
point 2 is really what rubs me the wrong way: not only is it hard to buy as an audience, the quest to unite a new resistance could have sold the climax, and the foundation of that plot was laid perfectly by the previous movie (whatever its other flaws) and with the power difference between the resistance and first order, you didn't even need to waste screentime establishing the new fleet (or palpatine for that matter) to sell the urgency of rallying everyone to the cause.
have the heroes liberate/ally with a planet or two in the beginning, seemingly lose a powerful asset (say Leïa and all her connections across the galaxy). then have the heroes go into battle as a desperate attempt to eliminate Kylo. but in memory of Leïa, all her allies have risen up and come in to save the day.
@@maximeteppe7627 Yes I agree with a lot of this. The two directors seemed to be having a petty war by attempting to change the direction of the plot in each movie.
But yeah the third movie just had too many things that didn't make sense, esp with the fleet of star planet killers literally popping up out of the ground.
Excellent point - there is the suspension of disbelief for things that build a setting (the force is real, space ships, etc.).
The the sheer idiocy of the plotlines - absolute garbage and absurdity.
Space horses
“And it doesn’t make sense how Chewie was able to rally the entire galaxy in just ~30 minutes...”
Not going to lie, I have a similar problem with Endgame’s Portal scene. How the hell did Strange manage to organize all of those people, most of whom probably had no reason to believe Thanos would return.
I am loving your content Filmento and the person who edits these really needs a raise, especially if it’s you too.
Just seeing the Endgame scene without noise is still enough to invoke so much emotion for me. Rise of Skywalker couldn't do that even when I was watching it in the theatre
Endgame: We've been building up Thanos for years now, always having him illustrate the events and now he gets to shine.
RoS: uhhh well we killed the main villain in the second movie so here's palpatine
Man Without A Plan Endgame did not let Thanos shine at all. IW did
@@nathanslay6342 Well actually...
I mostly agree but I never really cared about snoke or considered him the main villain. Imo kylo was the only villain that really mattered and snoke was just a plot device to push kylo.
@@somethingoriginal7917 Andy Serkis was more better as Caesar.
@@nathanslay6342 in endgame thanos is devastated that all of what he has done is now in vain because life in the universe is so shortsighted that they couldn’t see the bigger picture and instead of being grateful they spit on his sacrifices and undo all his life’s work. Thanos gives up on life because even on Titan they called him a madmen and his prediction came to pass but even after he helped the universe escape from that prediction they still called him a madman so now thanos who is motivated by vengeance decides to make a universe in his image a grateful universe teeming with life but first he decides to get rid of the unruly wretches who foiled his plan once in the first avengers so that they don’t foil his plan again. He even says that he will take personal pleasure in getting rid of them. Endgame makes thanos more human than any villain in cinema just like infinity war. Think about it what would you do if your life’s work is undone and spit on by people who have done it once before without being not even an ounce grateful.
It also doesn’t help that this whole movie feels like a rushed reaction to deal with what people didn’t like with last Jedi. Effectively retconning most of that film, thus leaving this trilogy with effectively no cohesion.
To be fair, The Last Jedi felt like it already shattered any semblance of cohesion due to its SuBvErSiOn of all of The Force Awakens.
I’m of the opinion that The Last Jedi was an okay movie, but it’s a story that doesn’t fit with the rest of the earlier movies. A movie introducing more grey morality would’ve been cool AFTER concluding our journey with the original trilogy’s characters.
I’m of the opinion that The Rise of Skywalker is trash tho lol
@Robo Actually, Rian Johnson handles the buildup of Luke from Episode 7 (along with everything else) beautifully, couldn't have done it better, and if anyone spends even 10 seconds thinking about it it's really the only way it could've gone that would've made sense from what Ep. 7 established.
immortalfrieza What? So the questions like "Whos Snoke?" "Oh uhh Idk but he's dead now lol"
"Who are the Knights of Ren?" "Who?"
"Whys Luke abandoned everything but left a map to where he is?" "Oh uh it's because he tried to murder his own nephew in his sleep because that's TOTALLY something he would do, and he's only there to die so I guess he made the map for no reason lol"
"Why is Rey so powerful with the force? And why is Lukes lightsaber calling out to her? Does she have some connection with him?" "Uhh well she's that powerful for no reason, her parents are nobodies! She isn't tied to Luke in anyway! Did I subvert your expectations? DID I!?"
J J Abrams made The force awaken and rise of skywalker and rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy made the last jedi to destroy J J abrams storyline. If JJ Abrams make the last jedi anything be great Star Wars movies all 3. Blame on Kathleen Kennedy because she hate Star Wars and want to destroy it.
@@immortalfrieza th-cam.com/video/vw7pcCj0ORk/w-d-xo.html
loved your video... and man, 15:53 brought me to tears, again, as it always does, as it did when I first watched Endgame on release night, what an epic entrance with that theme!!
12:44 Completely unrelated but did HAWKEYE just kick literal GOD ROCKS like it was an empty juice box????!
Not going to lie. I cried for chewy. Then felt silly when they showed him a min later. They killed Solo so I believed they could kill Chewy.
Although in the books chewie was actually killed off.
It would have been great if some of the novels were made into series.
@@AvoidTheCadaver In the Expanded Universe, Han was the one to survive, while Chewie died on the explosion of a planet, sacrificing himself in order to save Han and the remaining people there
@@anonymus5637
Yes. That was during the Yuuzhan Vong invasion arc
@@AvoidTheCadaver Wasn't that the species of another galaxy that attempted to conquer the one we know, and were such a powerful enemy, that the New Republic had to make a truce with the Empire Remnants in order to even have a chance to win?
@@anonymus5637
That's right. They used creatures and naturally grown ships as their war craft. They also worshipped pain to excess
One of the funny things I noticed about this trilogy is that they never really specify time in this saga. I deadass think this trilogy happened in a weekend. Rey and Kylo fought in the first movie on a Friday, the First Order demolished the Resistance on Saturday and Rey kills Palpatine on Sunday haha
That is actually how it happened. All of TFA and TLJ happened in less than 6 days, then a 1 year timeskip to ROS
I cared so little for this film after I finished it that I even forgot how it was called. I had to Google it to find out how it was called again lol, hence why I'm here. It was a fun film honestly, a flawed film but fun. Except, I absolutely couldnt give a damn about the new characters. THis and episode 8 feel like a fever dream to me honestly
@@le_meme_man8983 Wait TFA and TLJ happened in less than a week? So the First Order almost completely wiped out the Resistance in less than 6 days? That seems way too fast.
@@SnakeSound222 it is actually true. TFA happens in like 2 days, TLJ starts literally a second after the ending of TFA, then Rey trained for 2 or 3 days, killed snoke and his guards. Blah blah blah
Reminds me of that song from Aura Dione 365 Days
I love how the big finale of Clone Wars received more praise than this on a monumental level.