@@MountainBainsame, but I never played it because my dad owned it and I only played Snake Eater on my 3DS. I never knew we were playing separate characters because I was so confused I thought they were the same and I thought Solid Snake had someone regenerated his right eye and never thought it was Naked Snake 😅
2 things I think needed mentioned, 1. Not terribly important, but Eva carried liquid and solid to term. 2. Very important liquid was never in Ocelot, Ocelot had his nanomachines imitate liquid the whole time. Other than that, this is a very well done video.
Ocelot always finding a way to be with Snake. Doesn't even matter which Snake. These people throughout history passing along their genes and the Boss's memes. Unlike an intron to history they will be remembered as an exon!
You mentioned Huey during the prequel games, but completely cut out Otacon in the other games. You even briefly mentioned Emma in MGS2, but without even acknowledging Otacon I was kind of scratching my head.
I've played the games in this story that have been more mainstream let's say. Solid, 2, 3 etc. Even with this fantastic explanation it's SO hard to follow, I need someone to make a map. Also, I LOVE the art style on all the cut aways, if someone can tell me the artist I'd really appreciate it. Can't wait to see The Boss in the new Snake Eater remake as she was one of my favourite characters. Great work on this video, I can't imagine the effort you put in
I know it's a little messy but I love the MGS story and the series. It's one of my favorite stories in all of gaming. There is a good amount of varying gameplay mechanics to keep fans like me hooked for a very long time
Silent hill is much worse but it does make sense in a way once its explained. Mgs is actually mostly good once you get around all the chaff information thrown at you
The first game I’ve finished in the series was 4 when it came out on the ps3. Oh boy when Big Mama gave a very long exposition cutscene I was completely. I had no clue what every character she was taking about. Lol. Like watching endgame as your first mcu movie. After that went on to play 1-3 and then 5. After all that every thing made sense.
This is dedication respect and keep up the epic work. I have never played one of these before but i am going to get Guns of The Patriots at some point so this will help out a lot.
I recommend release order it actually makes more sense that way. I did it in chronological order and while I got it mostly I think it would of been less hard to figure out playing in release order the way they are meant to be played.
Well, the Master Collection coming out in October, and that will have Solid 1, 2, and 3, as well as the original Metal Gear games for the MSX home computer.
You should buy the master collection when it comes out. Play from the very first Metal Gear if you don’t mind playing games from the 80’s. It only takes about 4 hours to complete but I would recommend a guide haha Metal Gear Solid is where things get good tho! Probably my favourite game of all time
Oh boy you're missing out on a lot of amazing games. MGS 1, 2, and 3 were better than 5 for pure storyline and cutscenes. Gameplay goes to 5 for sure tho, but that's not saying much because they're all amazing in gameplay in their own ways.
@@joshhunt4146but there’s still 4 more games after that but before MGSV… I’m playing mgsV right now and I want to learn more about it, maybe even play earlier games but it seems exhausting
@@zanejohnson873 the games arnt that long tho tbf in terms of todays games anyway. I just did the first metal gear solid in a week - granted I’m so familiar with it I know it like the back of my hand so to a newbie it may take a little longer… but it’s so worth it
I don't know, seems like Kojima just wanted to keep adding more and more plot twists in each game... to a point where it made the story way too convoluted
Awesome Video! Got a question though. I am a little bit confused about Paz. Talking about the one in Metal Gear Zeke from 1974 and then the one from 1975. For me it appears like Paz is younger in 1975 and she somehow doesn't know she is an agent anymore? Can someone explain?
I've yet to see a 100% accurate TH-cam video attempting to explain the events of the Metal Gear franchise, let's see how this one manages to screw it up
The Green Beret Roy Campbell was actually Solid Snake's contact outside of Shadow Moses. you kinda missed the twist of what Campbell and Naomi's true intentions were
So a game where you play as a super secret American spy trying to sabotage the Soviets is canon to a game where you fight as a cyborg samurai against a politician made of metal? Fascinating
Played about 2 of the games for a bit once. Love the character of Solid Snake, but I think I'll stick with Splinter Cell. It won't make me cross my eyes at least not yet😵💫.
One thing you forgot to mention, maybe you did idk because i was watching/listening. The Boss was actually the biological mother of ocelot and was birthed on the battlefield when The Boss was leading the legendary cobra unit to victory in WW2.
Amazing to see the NES games had all the building blocks as later games. Which makes it strange I can't remember anyone having that as a child as the game looks enjoyable and surely was good for the time
There are a few things that I didn’t really get we’re mostly in phantom pain so the big boss that you play as during the entire game is the medic and the person with the bandages is the actual big boss and why did big boss come even??
Great video, but it's weird that A. You skipped over that the MSF were the ones to create Metal Gear ZEKE and B. You bizarrely completely avoided talking about Otacon?
can someone explain the story with raiden? i thought he got crushed by liquid after the metal gear ray fight in guns of the patriots. how is he still alive in revengeance
He survives that moment in Guns of the Patriots and has multiple other scenes in that game. It's explained that he survived in the very next scene (though it is a very weird cliffhanger that very much looks like Raiden dies).
Rising is canon in my heart. Portable ops is a mixed bag, since Kojima did work on it, he just didn't direct it, and it is mentioned at the start of Peacewalker. Its part of the story, but not part of "Kojima's metal gear saga". Not disagreeing with you so much as adding more detail for others who see your comment. I am glad they were included in the video though.
Venom Snake got killed in MG1 and the real Big Boss was killed in MG2. Don't ask more, that's simply the narrative. Big Boss was busy preparing Outer Haven while Venom Snake went rampage.
The Metal Gear & Assassin’s Creed series arguably has the most intriguing and confusing stories! You’d have to play all the games in order to get the true context of the story. 🧠
It's not, buts it's referenced. But I'm not gonna go around saying that zone of enders is metal gear canon either. I'm sure some dude with an mgsv profile pic is gonna come in here and defend it with his whole heart😂
@@solid_salsa haha they do be saying stuff like that bro don’t they yeah just from the past I’ve seen time line lists be like portable ops is not cannon never really heard about snakes revenge not being cannon ur their are so many plot holes and retcons in the series it’s crazy still love it tho replaying mgs 5 rn
As someone who knows next to nothing about metal gear solid, is it this intense/confusing when you’re actually playing it? (not that the video is bad! It’s doing a wonderful job explaining it! It’s just a very complicated story) like is it more.. digestible I guess?
I played all the games I understood it (gave me a headache with each game to a point where i have to take notes pf what happend ) After watching this video (also gave me a headache )💀💀
Truly the most confusing, but amazing series of all time
Kingdom Hearts would like a word.
My first MGS game was Guns of the Patriots so confusion was through the roof
Most confusing games of all times. Right❗❓🌟😁✌
Agreed
@@MountainBainsame, but I never played it because my dad owned it and I only played Snake Eater on my 3DS. I never knew we were playing separate characters because I was so confused I thought they were the same and I thought Solid Snake had someone regenerated his right eye and never thought it was Naked Snake 😅
2 things I think needed mentioned, 1. Not terribly important, but Eva carried liquid and solid to term. 2. Very important liquid was never in Ocelot, Ocelot had his nanomachines imitate liquid the whole time. Other than that, this is a very well done video.
Depends on if you trust the Digital Grapbic Novel of MGS2 or not. #HeadCanon
Ocelot also used hypnotherapy on himself aswell right? Not just in MGS5 but in GOTP too?
Wrong. Liquid DID possess Ocelot in MGS2. This is canon, check the MGS4 database. It’s why he switched to a prosthetic between 2 and 4.
Solid Snake doesn't attempt suicide because of "his lack of purpose", he does so to eradicate the mutating FoxDie.
Both. At least Wikipedia says both
Ocelot always finding a way to be with Snake. Doesn't even matter which Snake. These people throughout history passing along their genes and the Boss's memes. Unlike an intron to history they will be remembered as an exon!
So, we’re just gonna forget about Otacon? I mean, you touched on his dad and sister, but he doesn’t warrant a mention?
I just wanted to know what was going on after playing a little bit of Metal Gear 5.
I wasnt ready.
Average experience of metal gear player
You mentioned Huey during the prequel games, but completely cut out Otacon in the other games. You even briefly mentioned Emma in MGS2, but without even acknowledging Otacon I was kind of scratching my head.
They put him in fortnite, gotta learn all the lore now
I've played the games in this story that have been more mainstream let's say. Solid, 2, 3 etc. Even with this fantastic explanation it's SO hard to follow, I need someone to make a map. Also, I LOVE the art style on all the cut aways, if someone can tell me the artist I'd really appreciate it.
Can't wait to see The Boss in the new Snake Eater remake as she was one of my favourite characters.
Great work on this video, I can't imagine the effort you put in
Thank you. All your timeline break downs help so much!
Naked Snake: "You're pretty good."
Ocelot before passing out: "Pretty... Good..."
Holy shit the amount of work you need to put into this is just amazing! Well done!
This video is the best summary of MGS. I watched a couple of them, but this one is quite clear. 👍🏻 awesome!
Incredible video. Well done 👏
Well-done! This was great
God you thank you for putting some spotlight on Portable Ops. Criminally overlooked
Really well produced video 👍🏽
That was a epic history lesson and enjoyed whilst having my breakfast....Good show
Amazing video thanks for the msg coverage
I know it's a little messy but I love the MGS story and the series.
It's one of my favorite stories in all of gaming. There is a good amount of varying gameplay mechanics to keep fans like me hooked for a very long time
Silent hill is much worse but it does make sense in a way once its explained. Mgs is actually mostly good once you get around all the chaff information thrown at you
The first game I’ve finished in the series was 4 when it came out on the ps3. Oh boy when Big Mama gave a very long exposition cutscene I was completely. I had no clue what every character she was taking about. Lol. Like watching endgame as your first mcu movie. After that went on to play 1-3 and then 5. After all that every thing made sense.
Excellent journalism 👏 👏👏
This is dedication respect and keep up the epic work.
I have never played one of these before but i am going to get Guns of The Patriots at some point so this will help out a lot.
Why would you buy 4 if you've never played them before?
Best start with Metal Gear Solid 3 which is also the best in my opinion
I recommend release order it actually makes more sense that way. I did it in chronological order and while I got it mostly I think it would of been less hard to figure out playing in release order the way they are meant to be played.
Well, the Master Collection coming out in October, and that will have Solid 1, 2, and 3, as well as the original Metal Gear games for the MSX home computer.
@@SciontheDark Oh ya i forgot that's coming out ya I'll get that first get up to Guns of the Patriots.
Thanks for the Reminder.
My favorite game series ❤️🔥
Use me as a “portable ops is canon” relief
great vid!
Basically: not enough Metal Gears in Metal Gear; some Metal Gear Games dont even seem to have any Metal Gears.
The only game in the series I've played in the series is MSGV and I was able to piece together about 70% of the story. This helps a ton lol.
You should buy the master collection when it comes out. Play from the very first Metal Gear if you don’t mind playing games from the 80’s. It only takes about 4 hours to complete but I would recommend a guide haha Metal Gear Solid is where things get good tho! Probably my favourite game of all time
Oh boy you're missing out on a lot of amazing games. MGS 1, 2, and 3 were better than 5 for pure storyline and cutscenes. Gameplay goes to 5 for sure tho, but that's not saying much because they're all amazing in gameplay in their own ways.
@@joshhunt4146but there’s still 4 more games after that but before MGSV… I’m playing mgsV right now and I want to learn more about it, maybe even play earlier games but it seems exhausting
@@zanejohnson873 the games arnt that long tho tbf in terms of todays games anyway. I just did the first metal gear solid in a week - granted I’m so familiar with it I know it like the back of my hand so to a newbie it may take a little longer… but it’s so worth it
I don't know, seems like Kojima just wanted to keep adding more and more plot twists in each game... to a point where it made the story way too convoluted
Kojima and RGG Studios should have a plot twist off. Everything would implode at once.
After playing all of the games and watching the lore videos. I can 100% say I have no clue what it’s going on
Try to remember some of the basics of CQC
Awesome Video! Got a question though. I am a little bit confused about Paz. Talking about the one in Metal Gear Zeke from 1974 and then the one from 1975. For me it appears like Paz is younger in 1975 and she somehow doesn't know she is an agent anymore? Can someone explain?
Great video! But not a single mention of the La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo in a Metal Gear timeline synopsis???
1:20 Sokolov?...
Sokolov.
fun fact his name comes up 168 times in the script
It’s crazy I experienced this legendary series in its prime and my favorite game ever is mgs 4 guns of patriot
Was waiting for this
Snake and Eva happening that didn't age well. I DON'T know what you're talking about. What happened?
I understand this more than the Kingdom hearts series
MGS actually has substance to it's story, KH is just convoluted for the sake of it.
I've yet to see a 100% accurate TH-cam video attempting to explain the events of the Metal Gear franchise, let's see how this one manages to screw it up
I'm prepared to have my head explode. Let's do this!
33:38 Rye-dun
And Roy.
Thanks GameSpot!
Metal Gear!? it can't be
You knew?!
Metal Gear is one of the most secret black projects!
@@SpideyFan1212....
The Green Beret Roy Campbell was actually Solid Snake's contact outside of Shadow Moses. you kinda missed the twist of what Campbell and Naomi's true intentions were
What were the intentions?
So a game where you play as a super secret American spy trying to sabotage the Soviets is canon to a game where you fight as a cyborg samurai against a politician made of metal? Fascinating
Played about 2 of the games for a bit once. Love the character of Solid Snake, but I think I'll stick with Splinter Cell. It won't make me cross my eyes at least not yet😵💫.
I just watched the 6 hours version of this, and still left confused so here I am.
One thing you forgot to mention, maybe you did idk because i was watching/listening. The Boss was actually the biological mother of ocelot and was birthed on the battlefield when The Boss was leading the legendary cobra unit to victory in WW2.
Amazing to see the NES games had all the building blocks as later games. Which makes it strange I can't remember anyone having that as a child as the game looks enjoyable and surely was good for the time
Paz doesnt die in mgs 5 btw you can find her later with amnesia on mother base
This is a game that could use a streaming series to really flesh this out
Any company today would just destory it.
Only if Kojima is overseeing the project. Love to see his very confusing and most likely watched series come to the silver screen.
There are a few things that I didn’t really get we’re mostly in phantom pain so the big boss that you play as during the entire game is the medic and the person with the bandages is the actual big boss and why did big boss come even??
Great video, but it's weird that A. You skipped over that the MSF were the ones to create Metal Gear ZEKE and B. You bizarrely completely avoided talking about Otacon?
Big Boss revealed he was Snake’s father in Metal Gear 2, not Mg1. Also Snake doesn’t learn about the cloning program until Metal gear Solid.
Liquid tells him in mgs1
"You're pretty good"
This video just short circuited my brain ...
can someone explain the story with raiden? i thought he got crushed by liquid after the metal gear ray fight in guns of the patriots. how is he still alive in revengeance
He survives that moment in Guns of the Patriots and has multiple other scenes in that game. It's explained that he survived in the very next scene (though it is a very weird cliffhanger that very much looks like Raiden dies).
38:03 Who’s Ray Campbell? 😂
I thought I was tripping out too
LoL for real..
Th problem with timelines is that the games are meant to be taken in as a series.
Absolutely wild that MGRR is the least convoluted game in the series
Hey can you do a final fantasy timeline explaned
Portable Ops and Rising aren't canon. Never have been and never will be.
Rising is canon in my heart.
Portable ops is a mixed bag, since Kojima did work on it, he just didn't direct it, and it is mentioned at the start of Peacewalker. Its part of the story, but not part of "Kojima's metal gear saga". Not disagreeing with you so much as adding more detail for others who see your comment. I am glad they were included in the video though.
@@Link2edition that "mention" was an obvious jab at the game. Kaz straight up calls it crap.
@@Link2editionsame here
oh come on..I just watched the 6 hour metal gear timeline right before this.
I just beat mgs 3 again but with the PC port and on euro extreme no kills (tranq only)
Its all starting to make sense now. sort of.
Finally.
The best game series ever
So who did solid snake kill in MG2? I’m still confused on that
Venom Snake got killed in MG1 and the real Big Boss was killed in MG2. Don't ask more, that's simply the narrative. Big Boss was busy preparing Outer Haven while Venom Snake went rampage.
But what about mgs 4? How could the real big boss die in mgs2 when he appeara in mgs 4?
The overall story title in a nutshell “Metal Gear: But Actually”
Are you sure it’s the Boss’ grave and not BIG Boss’ grave that Solid Snake visits? How would he have any connection to the Boss?
It's Grey Fox's
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater is being remade.
only game ive played out of the series is MGS4, i played it for 20 minutes but was confused so i turned it off, good game though
So even by watching this video and having played most of the games, I'm still confused 😅
If Raiden never met Campbell, and it's found out that's he's just an A.I., who sent him on the mission of the Big Shell?
The Patriots AI, basically. Through it's proxies and intermediaries.
Kojima and Nomura should collab on kingdom hearts 😂
took me 4 days to get through this
Turn metal gear into a Hollywood movie! I’m surprised no one tried this yet!
Currently in pre production with Oscar Isaac as Snake
Do Legacy Of Kain. Bonkers squared.
Did any one try to press the X on tue screen during the flashbacks ?
A lot of these comments really shows just how insufferable some fans can be.
The Metal Gear & Assassin’s Creed series arguably has the most intriguing and confusing stories! You’d have to play all the games in order to get the true context of the story. 🧠
Hot Coldman walked so Die-Hardman can run
Survive goes hard and I’m tired of saying it doesn’t
Funny how the overarching MGS narrative is a proxy war between two former best friends but you would never get that by playing MGS1 or even 2.
Yep add this to the collection of failed attempts to explain the MGS timeline, I knew it
Is portable ops even cannon I’ve heard it’s not considered cannon
It's not, buts it's referenced. But I'm not gonna go around saying that zone of enders is metal gear canon either. I'm sure some dude with an mgsv profile pic is gonna come in here and defend it with his whole heart😂
@@solid_salsa haha they do be saying stuff like that bro don’t they yeah just from the past I’ve seen time line lists be like portable ops is not cannon never really heard about snakes revenge not being cannon ur their are so many plot holes and retcons in the series it’s crazy still love it tho replaying mgs 5 rn
This story is so crazy. And I love it so much 😂
let go
As someone who knows next to nothing about metal gear solid, is it this intense/confusing when you’re actually playing it? (not that the video is bad! It’s doing a wonderful job explaining it! It’s just a very complicated story)
like is it more.. digestible I guess?
the games do a way worse job.
What about all the animes and mobile games exclusive to Japan!
Best franchise ever
was portable ops canon?
No
Canon is what's in your heart ♥
Yes. Semi-canonical.
Nomura - Kojima I bet you can’t make a more confusing game than me
Kojima- metal gear is born
What sequence didn't age well?
Does Ocelot knew that the boss was his mother?
I played all the games
I understood it (gave me a headache with each game to a point where i have to take notes pf what happend )
After watching this video (also gave me a headache )💀💀
It's never once been called "Zoff" until now. It's X.O.F. and it's always has been
Actually quite a bit happened before the Cold War. During World War 2 when the patriots were formed
I think I speak for a lot of people when I say Konami should remake MG and MG2 on the PS5.
Rayden ?