You forgot to mention a big history point. The integrated microchip was NEVER invented in the Fallout universe. So all their technology is analog and nuclear based. This is the main reason why their technology is stuck in a 50s futurism look.
@@noluckst2that was new though. Even by NV standards it was new as it was the only one. The chip was created a day before the great war in 2077 so it had not been implemented into anything other than what Mr House already had set up for it.
There’s a lot to Walton’s Goggins ghoul that we don’t know and the end of the tv show left us with more questions, he is by far the most interesting character in the show
@@aaaaaa-wd3eb In the show he asks were his family is, not only his wife. To me it's pretty obvious they aren't dead or at the very least he's not sure they're dead.
The fact that vault tec could literally stop the war with their cold fusion making me question “ what the world will be in the next 5 decades with this atompunk technology “
@@GasnarftAre you saying that a Gen Aplha baby who grows up with brain rot will actually grow up to be one of the Intelligent billionaires in America and save Las Vegas from nuclear bombs?
Everyone always mentions that Matthew Perry played Benny in FNV, but I never hear people mention that Doc Mitchell is played by the same dude who played Colonel Saul Tighe in Battlestar Galactica. I think Danny Trejo is in FNV too. They had some dope VA's over the years.
Richard Dean Anderson, the guy who stars in the series MacGyver, was in the original Fallout 1 voice acting, and Richard Moll, who played Bull Shannon in the 1980s series Night Court, also did voice acting in the Fallout 1 game as a guard to the first Brotherhood of steel base you come across
as someone who has almost zero knowledge about the games (except for a few vague memmories about 4) this is a perfect video to get me back on track with the new tv show. Thank you! Well done
This is so real, Whenever i play I don’t really pay attention to lore and skip dialogue. Just recently 7-8 months I started playing more seriously to hope
Ah, so that's the what it was reffering to hahah... I thought it was gonna be some important code for a future game or maybe was a code that could be input in Fallout 76 at some terminal for an easter egg or something 😂
@Mr.TamOShanter-em6jm I'm gonna give couple of examples because there are many retcons from Bethesda, Fallout 3 misunderstood the whole setting of a Fallout, making it 1950s, when original games were future as it was imagined by people from 1950s, Fallout 4 retconned ghouls into being some kind of vampires who don't need food and water, Fallout 76 retconned Brotherhood of Steel from Fallout 1, by making them explore the wasteland, and now this TV show retcons Shady Sands into being destroyed, and ghouls yet again being retconned.
@@russianoverkill3715 The only reason we have Vault Experiments, possibly the biggest revelation in the series, is because Fallout 2 retconned that in. This series has been nothing but retcons since 1998. Quit crying about Evil Todd Also also: An [alleged] misinterpretation of artstyle isn't a retcon, please pick up a thesaurus.
funny enough if you studied the world history, life is stranger than fiction. Example is the first steam engine invented 2000 years ago by a Greek-Egyptian mathematician
This has been discussed ad nauseum. Shady Sands was not nuked in 2177. The timeline describes that the decline of the NCR happened in 2177 and then (separated by a dash) the town of Shady Sands was nuked sometime after. Shady Sands existed and is mentioned by members of the NCR during the events of Fallout New Vegas in 2281 so it had to have been blown up after the Second Battle of the Hoover Dam and after the conclusion of the DLC for FO:NV.
makes sense this way, Lucy was a child when her mother took them out of the vault and then her father nuked shady sands. same thing with maximus. the bombing of shady sands then has to happen after 2250 as Lucy leaves the vault as an adult 200 years after the initial nukes launched by vault tech in 2077
@@IFynxILucy leaves in 2296 and appears to be 25ish and was 6 when Shady Sands got blasted. I don’t necessarily see a timeline discrepancy like everyone seems to believe, it’s possible that survivors from 2277 tried to rebuild immediately after but had to give it up and leave between then (2281) and when Lucy finds it in the show.
not entirely accurate, it's based off of what would happen had cultural development in America stalled/diverted during that of the cold war due to the ever increasing tensions and wars; the reason it looks like what the people of the 50's thought the future would look like is because technology was forced to be developed at a rate far exceeding normalcy
@@xotiic_on_capcut a detonation that close would cause tremors, and the flash is so bright it blinds you if you look at it. www.atomicarchive.com/science/effects/flash-blindness.html
In the prologue section you missed the fact that in 76 some us troops in a training simulation watched the bombs fall. Its all in recordings and is important to the lore of the brotherhood of Steel
Love this video!! Great work! One thing though: Shady Sands was nuked closer to 2281. Todd Howard confirmed in an interview recently with IGN that it was nuked after the events of Fallout: New Vegas. People just misread the timeline. The Nuke on the timeline in the show indicated an event AFTER the denoted "Fall of Shady Sands" meaning they are actually separate events.
There was alot of internal strife and issues with politics in the ncr. This was shown in fallout new vegas on how the ncr can barely hold things together. They were essentially over reaching.
@@Evil_Deadite Exactly, the first fight for Hoover Dam, existed a lot of resources for the NCR. They were stretched thin, plus people over the back home disagreed on how to better use the resources.
Hank's wife in the show discovered a clue about a settlement on the surface. She then found shady sands and wanted to stay. Hank then took the kids and destroyed the settlement.
@Thebeautiful11 you see the crater of the atomic bomb where shady sands existed quite a few times throughout the show, it's also where Maximus is originally from and what he survived.
Ghoulification is interesting because without proper treatment his brain is still deteriorating until he becomes feral, according to ghoul lore in the FO universe. There’s a possibility he may actually turn feral or show signs of it as the seasons go on. Ghouls are practically immortal, but their sanity is not immortal and constantly deteriorating
One important timeline difference between Fallout and the real world is that the transistor and Microchip were not invented during the mid 20th century in the fallout timeline.
@@thehalfmanTL Yeah. I still need to login and check out this madness... this insanity! This. . . fallout of newcomers. Sorry, i'll see myself out now.
One thing i like about fallout is how the characters you play have names that aren't a name, it's a title. The lone wonderer The chosen one The courier The sole survivor
@@kepasamekcuka8538 according to showrunners there was a date under the nuclear blast on the board, and was removed for inaccuracies. so i guess they're just leaving it to be ambiguous and write something about it in season 2, since we roughly know the ages of Lucy and Max we can make a guess.
@@kepasamekcuka8538wasnt a mistake it showed the start of the fall of shady sands started in 2277. It didnt fall in a day. The nuke was a few years later. The show just didnt put a year on it
Great Video! As someone who only had some knowledge of fallout but never truly played the games I thank you for all of the information and attention to detail. I just started watching the show and this is exactly what I was looking for prior to watching it. Thank you!
The New Vegas DLC actually take place concurrently to the story of New Vegas, all of them reference the coming of Ulysses, but when Ulysses arrives, he prepares you for the "Final Battle of Hoover Dam." So that actually is where the New Vegas story ends. With a well journeyed Courier leading the charge on the future he sculpted.
The biggest problem with Fallout timeline is the Bethesda era. Everything is messed up or retconned, as nobody is seemingly keeping track of the lore. Furthermore, it's important to note that the timeline of the TV show basically makes it impossible for New Vegas events to occur.
Shady Sands was nuked after the events of New Vegas, still making it possible for events of that game to occur. So no, the show didn't "retcon" New Vegas. It's still canon.
"coop is like the John Wayn-" it's easy to see the mistake but he's more in line with the Audey Murphy of that world. he's a war hero turned movie actor much like coop was in the show.
Yes. The Duke is one of my favorite cowboys, but was not a war hero. I don't think he ever served. Murphy on the other hand was a legit badass war hero who made a film or two.
The video maker said "like the John Wayne >OR< Clint Eastwood" He's just drawing a line to the general gunslinger archetype, not someone specific. I hate useless pedantic "corrections" like yours that aren't actually corrections.
@@Blackmystix The thing is, Coop isn't like John Wayne or Clint Eastwood. They were just actors who played iconic roles. Coop is like Audie Murphy and not like the ones mentioned.
Something also worth mentioning is the creation of the BoS as the ancestor of the group of soldiers tasked with overseeing Mariposa (the place where the FEV was researched on) before the great war. Additionally the cursedness of the newly mutated wildlife is also thanks to said FEV ending up in the atmosphere shortly after the apocalypse, causing the virus to mutate due to radiation and essentially turning the usual mutation caused by nuclear fallout up by 100000
Thanks! The TV series is my intro to the world of Fallout. I didn't even realize the first scene of episode 1 "The End" was set in 2077, I thought it was set circa 1959. :-)
The bomb on shady sands was dropped closer to 2286, the takes place i. 2296, Maximus was a child when the the bombs dropped between the age of 8-10 therfore the show being set in 2296 means Maximus is between 18-20. This was confirmed in the Todd Howard Christopher Nolan interview.
Fallout 76 is such a good replica of WV. I enjoy nothing more in life than the 5 minute walk from the capitol of Charleston in Central WV to the beautiful cranberry glades in northeastern WV.
I'll give you one better, "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" a line written by Jonathan Nolan for The Dark Knight movie, and who's now responsible for the new Fallout TV show
I'll have to disagree with the point of Shady Sands being destroyed in 2277, instead proposing it actually happens somewhere around 2282 I've got a few points I want to make that backup my theory, which isn't all that unpopular in the Fallout community that isn't huffing paint fumes. 1. The "Fall of Shady Sands" drawing we see points from the "Fall" towards the nuke, so we can assume that the fall predated the destruction 2. We don't hear any NCR soldiers in New Vegas talk about Shady Sands as a "never forget" topic and it's never mentioned to be destroyed at all and since the game takes place in 2281, we can assume that Shady Sands was around at least until the events of Fallout New Vegas 3. How did the NCR fall this much since the events of New Vegas? Well, it's pretty clear that the NCR was heavily stressed in their extended campaign in the Mojave after the First battle of Hoover Dam. The first battle of Hoover dam was in 2277, which was also the year that we saw the "Fall of shady sands" happened. We can easily assume that a combination of economic stress from their unchecked expansion into the Mojave and the toll of the battle, as well as a possible supply chain issue and even something like political corruption or scandal with President Kimball prior to his reelection in 2278 could start to cause the "Fall" of Shady Sands and the NCR as a whole. The destruction of Shady Sands was more a nail in the coffin of the NCR than anything else. 4. The ages of Lucy and Maximus as portrayed in the show appear to be early to mid 20's, and since Lucy had no memory of Shady Sands but Maximus did, we can assume that Lucy was around 6 years old and Maximus was around 10 years old when Shady Sands was destroyed (Based on the flashbacks), leaving the earliest possible date for the nuke being around 2282. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
One small additional thing about the chronology of Vault 101: Expeditions outside of the vault started in 2241 at the latest - the same time Fallout 2 takes place. Megaton is already a place and the Giant Ants that blight the raiders of the nearby school 36 years later are also documented, this is all in the Overseer's Terminal as you leave Vault 101 for the first time, though it's probably still there if you return later.
This is great! Love to see the older games get a shout out, though I think it would had been better if you did a series explaining each game in the timeline as the clip notes for each are kinda haphazard and not entirely right with a lot of neat important lore glossed over. Also I'm not sure if 76 should be considered canon since it really breaks the lore established down the timeline, from the brotherhood, to super mutants, the tech and what have you (I'm aware they have some hokey justifications but it still really doesn't make sense in the scheme of things) Would be nice if you also did a look into the Fallout Bible/ original Fallout 3 (Van Buren) since quite a number of ideas did seep into the Bethesda iterations. *also a tiny editing gripe since it's a bit misleading to those who didn't play it, when mentioning killing the head of the Enclave at the end of Fallout 2 part, that's not the president but Special Agent Frank Horrigan the baddest Gen1 Super Mutant! Ah I can still remember the 1st time you meet him good memories! poor family...
It was not no surprise that her father was not who he said he was considering playing majority of the fallout series. You would smell it a mile away on the start.
Also, I knew from the start that there was something strange going on with the overseers, and I knew that the elections were rigged, I just didn't know it involved 33
I just realized narratively, it's really cool that the protagonists of fallout games are vault dwellers when the company vault-tec itself is representative of evil capitalism in a post nuclear wasteland America. It's like the villains have produced the hero in the literal sense which is very cool.
@9:32 NPCs were in the game at launch. They were mostly robots and a travelling Super Mutant Merchant called Graham. It was meant to show how all humans and non-feral ghouls were wiped out by the scorched plague. Wastelanders added human and non-feral ghoul NPCs, as they were coming to Appalachia from other parts of the east coast chasing rumors of a treasure hidden in the mountains of Appalachia.
Just to clarify (also mentioned by Todd Howard), Shady Sands wasn't destroyed by a bomb in 2277. The "fall" of Shady Sands happened then, which could've been a number of things like an uprising or some kind of societal downfall that we don't know about yet. The bomb actually fell some time shortly after the events of New Vegas (after 2281).
To be more clear in Fallout 3 Operation Anchorage you don't actually go there it's a Military Simulation of the Operation Anchorage events that happened during the Great War. Further note there are other known Vaults that opened earlier, one at 50 Years after the bombs closed.
so based on what we know in F:NV shady sands wasn't destroyed in 2277, and the chalkboard with the date was actually referring to the first battle for hoover dam, which is why the mushroom cloud is a separate bit on the timeline :)
Tremendous video showcasing the tremendous lore of Fallout. I can't wait to see who the man in the shadows of Vault-Tec really is in Season 2 of the show.
Errm. I don't think vault 76 was the first one to open. Vault 8 (which became Vault city) opened 10 years after the war and I think that there was some vault that opened just a year after.
The show is literally so good dude I’m gonna go back and play the games now or something I need to get more of this universe. They did a great job with the show.
Fallouts style isn’t based on the 1950’s it’s based on what they think would happen if we completely embraced nuclear power. Since small microchips were never invented they never moved on from the big boxy looking stuff
Correction: Shady Sands got nuked after 2277, probably after New Vegas events (Maximus was 8-10yo in his flashback). And NCR didn't get cold fusion, The BoS did..
We don't know his age for sure though. We can speculate but we're not told it explicitly. We do, however, find out from Lucy that her mom died in 2277. Considering two dates point to the same event happening in 2277, I think it's more likely this is the date the writers intended. I'm not exactly bothered by the mistake itself but it is an error.
@@coleabrams4534 Lucy was also about 5,6yo (before nuke) in her Shady Sands Flashback. Either way if we put Lucy and Maximus at about 20-21yo, then Shady got nuked 4-5 yrs after 2277. 🤷 We will probably learn more, then we will know.
@@swissarmyknight4306 Yes by Max age right after nuke, and his status as lowest recruit (Aspirint) revealing his approx age in 2296, I figured it was something like that. Only at the time of comment, I didn't know. Day or couple days after I heard confirmation too.
My headcanon is that Cooper Howard and his daughter eventually made it to Vault 31, and his daughter was granted access while he was denied entry. It could’ve been his ex-wife who denied him access, it could’ve been other vault tec personnel. And his wife and daughter were cryogenically frozen similar to the other vault tec personnel. The reason why I believe this is because when cooper confronts Hank he asks him where his family is, implying they could still be alive.
I love how the show reignited my love for the series. I started fallout 4 again. I'm glad a new generation is getting into it too. Fallout 3, although still very open world, is a bit more linear story-wise. So good for those who want to spend a lot of time in the universe without having the deviate from the main story too much. Side quests are great. But I'll explain in a second. Fallout 4 may take you the longest with so many side quests and branching main quest. There are 4 factions you can join. Depending on your choice, you may never play the others as you destroy one or more through the story line. So unlike Fallout 3's linearity, there's a lot more consequences to your choices in 4. New vegas. Best story telling. Just fantastic. Obsidian made this one. 76.. we don't talk about 76.. but i may try it as I just got it free through prime gaming give away. I think that goes until the 24th of april!
The first divergent events from our timeline actually happened well before world war 2 which led into the larger and more noticeable shift around that post war time.
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A Nuka Cola to anyone that gets the reference on my jumper (sweater to any Americans!)
It looks like it's from Tintin, going by the look of the rocket!
Tintin: Destination Moon was my first vhs
Red rocket station?
come fly with me quest from fallout new vegas?😂
I'm gonna need that nuka cola mate.
You forgot to mention a big history point. The integrated microchip was NEVER invented in the Fallout universe. So all their technology is analog and nuclear based. This is the main reason why their technology is stuck in a 50s futurism look.
Except the Platinum Chip is a microchip.
@@noluckst2that was new though. Even by NV standards it was new as it was the only one. The chip was created a day before the great war in 2077 so it had not been implemented into anything other than what Mr House already had set up for it.
@@fazsum41 Well okay, in that case we have to fall back on Jack Cabot's mention of them in a terminal entry dating from 2023.
It actually was invented.
The electrical transistor was never invented so the world pursued nuclear based power
There’s a lot to Walton’s Goggins ghoul that we don’t know and the end of the tv show left us with more questions, he is by far the most interesting character in the show
Absolutely. Like, where's his daughter
@@r.edward5701I think n vault 31 cause that’s where all the vault tech higher ups got sent into
@@r.edward5701 Probably dead? They were in the open when the bombs hit, goggins turn into a ghoul and the daughter likely died
@@ThereYouGoAgain Did you miss the part where they were together when the bombs hit? she dead
@@aaaaaa-wd3eb In the show he asks were his family is, not only his wife. To me it's pretty obvious they aren't dead or at the very least he's not sure they're dead.
To be fair, the future of Shady Sands was indeed looking very bright for a brief moment...
She doesn't get it
"Lets just say that joke *bombed* 😅"
@@eagleowl833I understood that reference
Shady Sands to Brighty Sands to just Sands in that particular order.
@@OhBenWhyKenobimore like Glass tbh
I have to say, watching the chain of nukes detonating was a pretty terrifying visual.
Especially considering how real it could be
Hope we won't ever have front row seats for such an event.
Nukes really can give you the existential dread from destruction beyond your comprehension.
Its coming soon irl
@@XenoHunter616Can’t wait for LA to get levelled!
@@yoboyfargoth1208 im in uk, literally 10 miles away from our nuclear weapons storage facilitiy, it was nice meeting u 😂♥️
The fact that vault tec could literally stop the war with their cold fusion making me question
“ what the world will be in the next 5 decades with this atompunk technology “
It should have made you wonder how it makes any sense in the show.
It's also worth mentioning that Mr. Robert House created the RobCo Patcher, making modifying Fallout 4 as easy as apple pie.
Seriously, how underrated is Walton Goggins? No matter the show or role, he's never disappointed me.
His role in Righteous Gemstones is A1
totally his sons of anarchy role still blows my mind
He had the best performance in The Hateful Eight in my opinion. Dude knows how to play those charismatic roles well.
his character in justified is great
Righteous Gemstones, Justified, and Django Unchained were all greatly improved by some Goggins, as was Fallout.
has anyone checked on 4 y/o Robert House lately??
you know at least one fan with the last name house took advantage of this in the oandemic
Probably watching lanky box or skibidi toilet or some other brain rot right now
@@GasnarftAre you saying that a Gen Aplha baby who grows up with brain rot will actually grow up to be one of the Intelligent billionaires in America and save Las Vegas from nuclear bombs?
Everyone always mentions that Matthew Perry played Benny in FNV, but I never hear people mention that Doc Mitchell is played by the same dude who played Colonel Saul Tighe in Battlestar Galactica. I think Danny Trejo is in FNV too. They had some dope VA's over the years.
Meanwhile while the english dub already had like 20 people trying to voice all characters, german localisation consisted of 10 or so.
Yeh Trejo plays Raul, the ghoul companion locked up by Tabitha in Black Mountain
Richard Dean Anderson, the guy who stars in the series MacGyver, was in the original Fallout 1 voice acting, and Richard Moll, who played Bull Shannon in the 1980s series Night Court, also did voice acting in the Fallout 1 game as a guard to the first Brotherhood of steel base you come across
@@quadphonics The name's Killian. Killian Darkwater. I'm a mayor of this fine town. And who might you be?
@@LukasKrincvaj_Czechia GIZMO SUPREMACY
as someone who has almost zero knowledge about the games (except for a few vague memmories about 4) this is a perfect video to get me back on track with the new tv show. Thank you! Well done
Sorry to hear that. There's lots of subtle things you're missing out of lack of context.
@@blakekenley1000 I'm sure there are but I still enjoyed it regardless
This is so real, Whenever i play I don’t really pay attention to lore and skip dialogue. Just recently 7-8 months I started playing more seriously to hope
101097 passcode .Fallout was released on October 10, 1997
Glad I'm not the only one who caught that
Ah, so that's the what it was reffering to hahah... I thought it was gonna be some important code for a future game or maybe was a code that could be input in Fallout 76 at some terminal for an easter egg or something 😂
Cool!
The day before my birth. I was destined to be a fan
That my birthday and month! Yo I really need to play the original 2. I've heard their amazing rpgs for their time
Fallout lore is a complete insanity, in the best possible way
Yeah if fallout series is a game I think I need to reload save 20 time than
Insanity in a way that it is retconned constantly
@Mr.TamOShanter-em6jm I'm gonna give couple of examples because there are many retcons from Bethesda, Fallout 3 misunderstood the whole setting of a Fallout, making it 1950s, when original games were future as it was imagined by people from 1950s, Fallout 4 retconned ghouls into being some kind of vampires who don't need food and water, Fallout 76 retconned Brotherhood of Steel from Fallout 1, by making them explore the wasteland, and now this TV show retcons Shady Sands into being destroyed, and ghouls yet again being retconned.
@@russianoverkill3715 The only reason we have Vault Experiments, possibly the biggest revelation in the series, is because Fallout 2 retconned that in.
This series has been nothing but retcons since 1998.
Quit crying about Evil Todd
Also also: An [alleged] misinterpretation of artstyle isn't a retcon, please pick up a thesaurus.
funny enough if you studied the world history, life is stranger than fiction. Example is the first steam engine invented 2000 years ago by a Greek-Egyptian mathematician
A lot of fallout content lately, and I'm all for it
I thought I was the only one the tv show need to hurry with that season 2
New show and fo4 remaster. So yea... They're gonna milk it
They should have had a New Vegas Remaster ready to go.. massive missed opportunity 🙄
it's just a show and, most likely, an underwhelming DLC. There would have been a lot of content if Fallout London wasn't delayed
@@glorbog Welcome to Capitalism
Mr. House being a Gen Alpha makes so much sense
OK, atomboomer.
@@Hoganplywhat you did there?
I see it!
Bro is probably watching tiktok right now
@@s4ndr3x98 didn't know they had tiktok in kindergarden
@@TheKrislaf he's probably an ipad kid
This has been discussed ad nauseum. Shady Sands was not nuked in 2177. The timeline describes that the decline of the NCR happened in 2177 and then (separated by a dash) the town of Shady Sands was nuked sometime after. Shady Sands existed and is mentioned by members of the NCR during the events of Fallout New Vegas in 2281 so it had to have been blown up after the Second Battle of the Hoover Dam and after the conclusion of the DLC for FO:NV.
makes sense this way, Lucy was a child when her mother took them out of the vault and then her father nuked shady sands. same thing with maximus. the bombing of shady sands then has to happen after 2250 as Lucy leaves the vault as an adult 200 years after the initial nukes launched by vault tech in 2077
@@IFynxILucy leaves in 2296 and appears to be 25ish and was 6 when Shady Sands got blasted. I don’t necessarily see a timeline discrepancy like everyone seems to believe, it’s possible that survivors from 2277 tried to rebuild immediately after but had to give it up and leave between then (2281) and when Lucy finds it in the show.
Except that the show stated that Shady Sands fell in 2277. One can argue if it was due to a nuke, but the date is very clear.
Fallout's style isn't based on the 1950's. It's based on what people in the 50's thought the future would look like.
not entirely accurate, it's based off of what would happen had cultural development in America stalled/diverted during that of the cold war due to the ever increasing tensions and wars; the reason it looks like what the people of the 50's thought the future would look like is because technology was forced to be developed at a rate far exceeding normalcy
I believe it was called art deco? Mixed in with some Jetsons.
@@gangsterHOTLINEretrofuturism, or atompunk more recently
@@gangsterHOTLINE art deco is the 1910-30's iirc
Otherwise known as retro future
The explosion at the beginning was perfectly done.
I could feel my heart about to jump out of my chest
no
You mean how nobody at the party but a little girl noticed several nukes denoting just out the very large window a few miles away?
@@landonrichmond it was only 1, and when a nuke goes off the explosion is so fast that you can’t hear the first 5-10 seconds of it.
@@xotiic_on_capcut a detonation that close would cause tremors, and the flash is so bright it blinds you if you look at it.
www.atomicarchive.com/science/effects/flash-blindness.html
In the prologue section you missed the fact that in 76 some us troops in a training simulation watched the bombs fall. Its all in recordings and is important to the lore of the brotherhood of Steel
Keep 76 out of this, the series a success. 76 was a scandale with scams and corporate lies. No .
Only YOU can stop corporate espionage!
@@deenaxic9134 In the show they did indeed say Reclamation Day was a failure.
@@deenaxic9134 76 is pretty good rn, don't let the abysmal launch and the scam after that ruin the game for you
@@deenaxic9134okay fnv fangirl (you smell like one) keyword here it WAS, its a different game now
Love this video!! Great work! One thing though: Shady Sands was nuked closer to 2281. Todd Howard confirmed in an interview recently with IGN that it was nuked after the events of Fallout: New Vegas. People just misread the timeline. The Nuke on the timeline in the show indicated an event AFTER the denoted "Fall of Shady Sands" meaning they are actually separate events.
It was closer to 2286
Shady Sands wasn't destroyed in 2277, it's downfall began in 2277.
correct, Todd Howard recently corrected this. Shady Sands gets destroyed shortly after the events of F:NV, so roughly 2282
I thought that it just got bombed or was it getting attacked then it was bombed a bit after?
There was alot of internal strife and issues with politics in the ncr. This was shown in fallout new vegas on how the ncr can barely hold things together. They were essentially over reaching.
@@Evil_Deadite Exactly, the first fight for Hoover Dam, existed a lot of resources for the NCR. They were stretched thin, plus people over the back home disagreed on how to better use the resources.
Uh, no? You can read it in the show - Shady Stands fell. It didn't "decline".
Hank's wife in the show discovered a clue about a settlement on the surface. She then found shady sands and wanted to stay. Hank then took the kids and destroyed the settlement.
I feel like destroyed is an understatement, glassed to oblivion would be more fitting I think
the woman said burned it to the ground.
@@Thebeautiful11 Hank nuked it
@@Thebeautiful11 hank set off an atomic bomb I think he did more than burn it to the ground (insert clip of massive crater I mean shady sands now)
@Thebeautiful11 you see the crater of the atomic bomb where shady sands existed quite a few times throughout the show, it's also where Maximus is originally from and what he survived.
It would be amazing if Danny Trejo played Raul again in the second season as its set in nv. Raul is a ghoul so he should still be alive.
Ghoulification is interesting because without proper treatment his brain is still deteriorating until he becomes feral, according to ghoul lore in the FO universe. There’s a possibility he may actually turn feral or show signs of it as the seasons go on. Ghouls are practically immortal, but their sanity is not immortal and constantly deteriorating
One important timeline difference between Fallout and the real world is that the transistor and Microchip were not invented during the mid 20th century in the fallout timeline.
I invented the transistor
@@vincenttt8289thanks vincent
@@vincenttt8289thanks vincent
@@vincenttt8289 thanks vincent
@@vincenttt8289thanks vincent
Lol this show... f'ing 36k people playing FO76 right now. . . BRUH. I was there week 1, that game was on life support until this show lol.
That's a good thing right?
@@thehalfmanTL Yeah. I still need to login and check out this madness... this insanity! This. . . fallout of newcomers.
Sorry, i'll see myself out now.
As a week 1 player, can you confirm that the game is actually playable now?
@@TheLastFoust pretty much, almost all the problem that the players complained, Bethesda already fix them. It's an actual good game now
@@bunnitomoe3866 How's the narrative? Played NV and 4 for about 50 hours each but never finished the story.
One thing i like about fallout is how the characters you play have names that aren't a name, it's a title.
The lone wonderer
The chosen one
The courier
The sole survivor
Courier
@@FirEBeast lol weird, i know how to spell courier, i mustve auto corrected. thanks
@@ghostfifth 🤝
Shady Sands was NOT NUKED IN 2277! The "Fall of Shady Sands" occurred in 2277 and the nuke happened afterwards. At what year, we don't know.
Yeah, it's heavily suggested it was sometime in the 2280s likely '82 or so, but certainly not 2277.
then why are all other dates were correct? what for did they make that mistake?
@@kepasamekcuka8538 according to showrunners there was a date under the nuclear blast on the board, and was removed for inaccuracies. so i guess they're just leaving it to be ambiguous and write something about it in season 2, since we roughly know the ages of Lucy and Max we can make a guess.
@@kepasamekcuka8538wasnt a mistake it showed the start of the fall of shady sands started in 2277. It didnt fall in a day. The nuke was a few years later. The show just didnt put a year on it
its with this lazy story writing Bethesda ruined a awesome franchise.
Fallout 3’s intro of you growing up is the best fallout intro and it’s not close.
Agreed, it is perfect.
🥱 new vegas>>>>
yawn
Great Video! As someone who only had some knowledge of fallout but never truly played the games I thank you for all of the information and attention to detail. I just started watching the show and this is exactly what I was looking for prior to watching it. Thank you!
The New Vegas DLC actually take place concurrently to the story of New Vegas, all of them reference the coming of Ulysses, but when Ulysses arrives, he prepares you for the "Final Battle of Hoover Dam."
So that actually is where the New Vegas story ends. With a well journeyed Courier leading the charge on the future he sculpted.
The biggest problem with Fallout timeline is the Bethesda era. Everything is messed up or retconned, as nobody is seemingly keeping track of the lore.
Furthermore, it's important to note that the timeline of the TV show basically makes it impossible for New Vegas events to occur.
only a problem for those suffering with chronic gayness
Shady Sands was nuked after the events of New Vegas, still making it possible for events of that game to occur. So no, the show didn't "retcon" New Vegas. It's still canon.
"coop is like the John Wayn-" it's easy to see the mistake but he's more in line with the Audey Murphy of that world. he's a war hero turned movie actor much like coop was in the show.
Yes. The Duke is one of my favorite cowboys, but was not a war hero. I don't think he ever served. Murphy on the other hand was a legit badass war hero who made a film or two.
Fun fact: reading that comment makes you hear a whistle
The video maker said "like the John Wayne >OR< Clint Eastwood" He's just drawing a line to the general gunslinger archetype, not someone specific. I hate useless pedantic "corrections" like yours that aren't actually corrections.
@@Blackmystix The thing is, Coop isn't like John Wayne or Clint Eastwood. They were just actors who played iconic roles. Coop is like Audie Murphy and not like the ones mentioned.
Really appreciate this vid. Great research and production. Also managed to make the fallout timeline understandable. Thanks very much!
Great overview! I've played NV and 4, and loved the TV show, and I was looking for a good overview of the full series to fill in the gaps. Thanks!
Something also worth mentioning is the creation of the BoS as the ancestor of the group of soldiers tasked with overseeing Mariposa (the place where the FEV was researched on) before the great war. Additionally the cursedness of the newly mutated wildlife is also thanks to said FEV ending up in the atmosphere shortly after the apocalypse, causing the virus to mutate due to radiation and essentially turning the usual mutation caused by nuclear fallout up by 100000
thank u love this series great to see so many fans come together this show has put some new life back to the series
Thanks! The TV series is my intro to the world of Fallout. I didn't even realize the first scene of episode 1 "The End" was set in 2077, I thought it was set circa 1959. :-)
The bomb on shady sands was dropped closer to 2286, the takes place i. 2296, Maximus was a child when the the bombs dropped between the age of 8-10 therfore the show being set in 2296 means Maximus is between 18-20. This was confirmed in the Todd Howard Christopher Nolan interview.
i feel like jumping from the cold war to 2020 without explaining what happened inbetween is extremely confusing lol
I'm pretty sure the soviet union just never collapsed and Europe left the US sphere of influence more and more, but that's about it
Nothing of importance happened
Society got stuck in the 50s so there isn’t anything to talk about
Everyone knows the cold war i think
Well if you played the games and know the lore behind the fallout universe that you would know what happened between them dates and not be confused
Man it's crazy how good to show was
Fallout 76 is such a good replica of WV. I enjoy nothing more in life than the 5 minute walk from the capitol of Charleston in Central WV to the beautiful cranberry glades in northeastern WV.
"you're a hero... and you have to leave"
I'll give you one better, "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain" a line written by Jonathan Nolan for The Dark Knight movie, and who's now responsible for the new Fallout TV show
"There is no hope. Leave now, leave while you still have hope."
I love all the in game music you added to the video. The world music is the best
Do you know the name of the song at 30 min at the beginning of the fallout 4 screen?
@@jackmcintyre7465did you ever find it
Thank you for the timeline breakdown.
I'll have to disagree with the point of Shady Sands being destroyed in 2277, instead proposing it actually happens somewhere around 2282
I've got a few points I want to make that backup my theory, which isn't all that unpopular in the Fallout community that isn't huffing paint fumes.
1. The "Fall of Shady Sands" drawing we see points from the "Fall" towards the nuke, so we can assume that the fall predated the destruction
2. We don't hear any NCR soldiers in New Vegas talk about Shady Sands as a "never forget" topic and it's never mentioned to be destroyed at all and since the game takes place in 2281, we can assume that Shady Sands was around at least until the events of Fallout New Vegas
3. How did the NCR fall this much since the events of New Vegas? Well, it's pretty clear that the NCR was heavily stressed in their extended campaign in the Mojave after the First battle of Hoover Dam. The first battle of Hoover dam was in 2277, which was also the year that we saw the "Fall of shady sands" happened. We can easily assume that a combination of economic stress from their unchecked expansion into the Mojave and the toll of the battle, as well as a possible supply chain issue and even something like political corruption or scandal with President Kimball prior to his reelection in 2278 could start to cause the "Fall" of Shady Sands and the NCR as a whole. The destruction of Shady Sands was more a nail in the coffin of the NCR than anything else.
4. The ages of Lucy and Maximus as portrayed in the show appear to be early to mid 20's, and since Lucy had no memory of Shady Sands but Maximus did, we can assume that Lucy was around 6 years old and Maximus was around 10 years old when Shady Sands was destroyed (Based on the flashbacks), leaving the earliest possible date for the nuke being around 2282.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
THANK YOU, someone with an actual comprehensive explanation
One small additional thing about the chronology of Vault 101: Expeditions outside of the vault started in 2241 at the latest - the same time Fallout 2 takes place. Megaton is already a place and the Giant Ants that blight the raiders of the nearby school 36 years later are also documented, this is all in the Overseer's Terminal as you leave Vault 101 for the first time, though it's probably still there if you return later.
27:56 uhhhh nice option #1 with Benny, gotta love the modding community
Nothing to do with the modding community? This is a genuine option you get in the game with the black widow perk...
0:21 I see what you did there. Vault-Tec would approve.
Anyone else love the fact that Texas was big enough to just become its own commonwealth named Texas
The effort in centralizing this is appreciated, keep up the good work.
I was hoping someone would make this type of video. I'm a fan of the games but loved the show so this helped it make sense
This is great! Love to see the older games get a shout out, though I think it would had been better if you did a series explaining each game in the timeline as the clip notes for each are kinda haphazard and not entirely right with a lot of neat important lore glossed over.
Also I'm not sure if 76 should be considered canon since it really breaks the lore established down the timeline, from the brotherhood, to super mutants, the tech and what have you (I'm aware they have some hokey justifications but it still really doesn't make sense in the scheme of things)
Would be nice if you also did a look into the Fallout Bible/ original Fallout 3 (Van Buren) since quite a number of ideas did seep into the Bethesda iterations.
*also a tiny editing gripe since it's a bit misleading to those who didn't play it, when mentioning killing the head of the Enclave at the end of Fallout 2 part, that's not the president but Special Agent Frank Horrigan the baddest Gen1 Super Mutant! Ah I can still remember the 1st time you meet him good memories! poor family...
It was not no surprise that her father was not who he said he was considering playing majority of the fallout series. You would smell it a mile away on the start.
Also, I knew from the start that there was something strange going on with the overseers, and I knew that the elections were rigged, I just didn't know it involved 33
Robert House is 4 years old now. He better get to work.
I am just so happy to see the fallout series getting all this lore. Is such a good game and world overall.
Just finished the show and I thought it was pretty good
I really enjoyed Fallout Tactics. It was a lot of fun. "My name is Sgt. Arugula."
Sir, there are many of us. But we are not welcome in here.
As a dev on that game its always nice to hear :)
@@RobinMaddock No. You also worked on BoS. It evens out.
@@deenaxic9134 I did not. BoS was a completely different studio than Tactics
I just realized narratively, it's really cool that the protagonists of fallout games are vault dwellers when the company vault-tec itself is representative of evil capitalism in a post nuclear wasteland America. It's like the villains have produced the hero in the literal sense which is very cool.
Your Dogmeat plush is so ADORABLE!
The pronunciation of Caesar gave me whiplash
This was the TH-cam we all needed.
Thank you very very very much.
I ABSOLUTLEY LOVED this video. Thanks for making such a comprehensive timeline video. Cheers!
Lol’d at the thumbnail with the dollar store version of Ella Purnell
@9:32 NPCs were in the game at launch. They were mostly robots and a travelling Super Mutant Merchant called Graham. It was meant to show how all humans and non-feral ghouls were wiped out by the scorched plague. Wastelanders added human and non-feral ghoul NPCs, as they were coming to Appalachia from other parts of the east coast chasing rumors of a treasure hidden in the mountains of Appalachia.
So many clever word plays i was more so sat waiting for the next one rather than actually paying attention 😂
Just to clarify (also mentioned by Todd Howard), Shady Sands wasn't destroyed by a bomb in 2277. The "fall" of Shady Sands happened then, which could've been a number of things like an uprising or some kind of societal downfall that we don't know about yet. The bomb actually fell some time shortly after the events of New Vegas (after 2281).
You did a great job man. 👌
Awesome havent seen 1 and 2 for EVER! My bro used to play it i was always so lost! But it had an awesome interface! Cheers 4 a great work!
Robot Wars did hit the States! Thank you for the nostalgic moment.
5:00 a fantastic actor who deserves an Emmy!
To be more clear in Fallout 3 Operation Anchorage you don't actually go there it's a Military Simulation of the Operation Anchorage events that happened during the Great War.
Further note there are other known Vaults that opened earlier, one at 50 Years after the bombs closed.
I think a pre-war Fallout game or TV show would be so dope.
27:57 Bro, what are you trying to do with poor Benny?
wanted to see if anyone else saw that 😂
so based on what we know in F:NV shady sands wasn't destroyed in 2277, and the chalkboard with the date was actually referring to the first battle for hoover dam, which is why the mushroom cloud is a separate bit on the timeline :)
I have this exact fallout 4 poster, which is behind you! Ah brings back memories...
Shady Sands wasn't exploded in 2277, more likely to be exploded in 2282
Then why didn't it say that on the chalk board.
@@davidsurtees4439because that was the start of the DOWNFALL of shady sands
House being born in 2020 makes so much sense
In real life his name is Enzo, he is yet four years old and possibly related to Elon Musk
Ipad kid
Thanks for this
Tremendous video showcasing the tremendous lore of Fallout. I can't wait to see who the man in the shadows of Vault-Tec really is in Season 2 of the show.
Great timeline summary! I love the series (apart from F4 which doesn't run on any of my current and past PCs LOL).
Errm. I don't think vault 76 was the first one to open. Vault 8 (which became Vault city) opened 10 years after the war and I think that there was some vault that opened just a year after.
Well, one (on purpose) didn't even close (however there were other vaults that didn't seal right)
Sheesh man, great work!!
38:00 Destroyed by a nuclear blast "after" 2277, its crazy out there and people are fighting over this.
If it was after 2277 then why didnt ithave a date when they would have know
@@davidsurtees4439 pointless as this has been confirmed.
@@davidsurtees4439 simple answer, the show runners wanted to keep it as a surprise twist, which they did.
The show is literally so good dude I’m gonna go back and play the games now or something I need to get more of this universe. They did a great job with the show.
Great job, thank you for making this!
So the biggest lore argument is about when shady sands was nuked?
Yup
Ditto
That’s a why they said it was right after the events of New Vegas in the interview.
Fallouts style isn’t based on the 1950’s it’s based on what they think would happen if we completely embraced nuclear power. Since small microchips were never invented they never moved on from the big boxy looking stuff
the style is called “retrofuturism”
Correction: Shady Sands got nuked after 2277, probably after New Vegas events (Maximus was 8-10yo in his flashback). And NCR didn't get cold fusion, The BoS did..
We don't know his age for sure though. We can speculate but we're not told it explicitly. We do, however, find out from Lucy that her mom died in 2277. Considering two dates point to the same event happening in 2277, I think it's more likely this is the date the writers intended. I'm not exactly bothered by the mistake itself but it is an error.
@@coleabrams4534 Lucy was also about 5,6yo (before nuke) in her Shady Sands Flashback. Either way if we put Lucy and Maximus at about 20-21yo, then Shady got nuked 4-5 yrs after 2277. 🤷 We will probably learn more, then we will know.
Word of Godd confirmed it, Shady Sands was nuked about a year after New Vegas.
@@swissarmyknight4306 Yes by Max age right after nuke, and his status as lowest recruit (Aspirint) revealing his approx age in 2296, I figured it was something like that. Only at the time of comment, I didn't know. Day or couple days after I heard confirmation too.
My headcanon is that Cooper Howard and his daughter eventually made it to Vault 31, and his daughter was granted access while he was denied entry.
It could’ve been his ex-wife who denied him access, it could’ve been other vault tec personnel. And his wife and daughter were cryogenically frozen similar to the other vault tec personnel.
The reason why I believe this is because when cooper confronts Hank he asks him where his family is, implying they could still be alive.
I love how the show reignited my love for the series. I started fallout 4 again.
I'm glad a new generation is getting into it too.
Fallout 3, although still very open world, is a bit more linear story-wise. So good for those who want to spend a lot of time in the universe without having the deviate from the main story too much. Side quests are great. But I'll explain in a second.
Fallout 4 may take you the longest with so many side quests and branching main quest. There are 4 factions you can join. Depending on your choice, you may never play the others as you destroy one or more through the story line. So unlike Fallout 3's linearity, there's a lot more consequences to your choices in 4.
New vegas. Best story telling. Just fantastic. Obsidian made this one.
76.. we don't talk about 76.. but i may try it as I just got it free through prime gaming give away. I think that goes until the 24th of april!
Correction: The "brotherhood of steel" is actually a pre-war faction, because Maxson began his insurrection just before the bombs.
Ueah and if anyone played fallout 76 would know about that too
@@davidsurtees4439 Well... people are finding out now finally... most players ever in the game at the moment.
Rivet city was a carrier not battleship my dude
Its funny to me that ppl making fallout content and dont know the lore.
As a fallout fan who does not own this game i like watching your vids to relive the lore
Kudos to the effort, quite vivid description! I have started a channel primarily with FALLOUT 4 base building!
FOR DEMOCRACY!!!!!!!
Wrong game mate
For super earth!
Good patriotism 💪
Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics are the real canon.
what level of delusion is this
i know hes brittish but no passes on how you said maryland
Buddy we made the language
right off the bat, the Texas colony also including Arkansas is hilarious to me xD
The first divergent events from our timeline actually happened well before world war 2 which led into the larger and more noticeable shift around that post war time.
fallout 4 takes place in 2287, not 2077. it simply starts off in 2077
Yeah that’s why he said Prolouge