This is possibly the best Terminator X install video out there. I learned as much from your mistakes as I did from your successes. Great camera work, especially on the oil pressure sender. Having your car’s wiring exposed like you have really made it easy to see where the wires went. Thanks again.
Great video! Where the MAT sensor connects into the intake at 5:34 do you have a part number or could anyone point me in direction I need to find something similar to that size grommet? Thanks
bought a truck wirth a 5.3 and terminator x max in it, but not complete in parts, this really helped to understand the set up, old school guy, was my first time with a Ls swap thanks, best help I have had
Great video. I’m starting my install on my Turbo Silverado tomorrow! I wish mine would be as simple as yours but it’s still a full interior vehicle. Glad to see it went smooth. Im of the same opinion as you about wiring….
Excellent video! My 57 will be running the Terminator X for sure! I love how simple the system is, installation and you did a great job doing it like everyone will be doing, backyard style with human error. Keep the good work Ken!
I wanna do this for my 72 chevelle elco but will i have to use that screen or is there a way to wirebit to my dash so i have all the stock gage reading working
For the moment, it’s just off to the side because the plan was to always install an electronically controlled 4L60e. But I’ve seen guys who have retrofitted their throttle bracket to accommodate a kick-down cable as well.
Thanks you literally help me finally turn my truck on after 2 years ! Been waiting about 8 months on mechanics that said they will finish up the wiring for me watched this video and did it myself and now it’s running . By any chance did you make a video wiring up the transmission harness or you haven’t done it yet?
This is literally why I made this video! So glad you were able to use it to get your truck running! We’ve not yet swapped transmissions yet, but when we do we’ll be sure to include the Terminator harness details as well. 👍🏻
@@SpyderGarage yes very much appreciated!! Saved me time and money! . Even without the transmission control installed your able to drive the car or no?
@@floridashitglee9387 Oh we’ve driven it thousands of miles without it. The TH350 doesn’t require the controller and the Terminator is fine if it’s not plugged in. 👍🏻
How did you go with the injector selection in the end? I’m about to purchase the 550-903 Unit for my LS1. I have the same injectors as yourself but can’t find any information on them and Holley doesn’t have the specifications either.
@@SpyderGarage man for some reason I’m still not able to get power to the fuel pump- it’s a Holley in tank unit so it’s not that loud but damn I thought I would be able to hear it prime at least
Thanks for sharing. Found your channel at the right time. Im installing the Terminator X Into a 502 Ram jet crate motor. I am as nervous about it as you were.
@@Frogg1517 You can get Holley’s 7” Digital Dash to show fuel level, turn signals, brights, gauges, etc. but you’ll need the following to get you going. www.holley.com/products/gauges_and_gauge_accessories/digital_displays_and_touchscreens/parts/558-432 documents.holley.com/199r10954rev2.pdf www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/gauges_and_displays/lcd_displays/parts/558-433 documents.holley.com/199r10746rev1.pdf
For the video, I ran a longer wire to it from the rear mounted battery, but otherwise, it’s just hooked up like normal. (I even noted in the video how I accidentally knocked that wire loose)
None of your gauge cluster would work other than maybe fuel level. With an auto transmission, you can have the holley control that and the handheld screen will display all of that, but its small. Its expensive but Dakota Digital makes gauges that would replace the stock gauges and interfaces off of the holley giving you all the readouts your old dash has. Highly recommend but its like $1K+ i think.
I love it very nice I feel a little better you made it very helpful now I can make up my mine thanks so much for sharing my question can I use a painless wire harness with it that has fuses and start up switch for a race car Gauges and lights or street race car
Hey Spyder! Great video, it really cleared up a couple concerns I had however I still have questions. In the manual, I may have skipped or over read somehow, but I don’t see where it talks about wiring to the starter or alternator. Could you please shed some light on this topic?
If I got the terminator x max ls1 24x (550-919) am I restricted ls1 motors or am I able to go any 5.3 4.8 6.0 with the system ? Got it for a steal on market place lol thanks in advance haven’t gotten a clear answer
Awesome video. Thanks. LC9 swap into our 69 Galaxie Convertible. We are having crank rpm issue where it is not showing crank rpm. Engine runs but were not there yet but close!
What’s up question. I brought a 1986 Chevy caprice with LS swap. Terminator x max lights never lit up hand held comes on. VVS not plugged in nor speed plug. Will those not been plugged up cause the ecu not to communicate?
No those are not required in order for the ECU to work. Case-in-point: They’re not plugged in on our car either because we’re running a non-electronic TH350 transmission. When you say the lights didn’t come on, are you referring to the lights on the ECU itself?
@@SpyderGarage man I apologize. I tried posting this on the video before and I guess as it was changing videos it put it on this one instead lol. Sorry nice build though
Where did you pull from for starter exciter wire? Said you’d cover it first minute of video and don’t see it mentioned at all. Also don’t see any mention about alternator.
@@SpyderGarage cool! Would my factory gauges on my cluster still work, tach. Speedo. Fuel gauge oil pressure gauge? Or would it all be shown on the little touch screen that comes with it?
Can you still use the terminator x max wiring and have it still plug into dash? For example if you have oil pressure hooked up to the terminator x max but you don’t use the terminator x gauge thing can you still have it going to a different dash?
If I’m understanding the question, yes, you can install a T-fitting for a mechanical gauge underneath the Holley pressure transducer that feeds the CAN (handheld) or you can splice the wires and feed a separate electronic oil pressure gauge. But doing that will void Holley’s warranty.
@@SpyderGarage gotcha. Just asking because I got a neat little cluster and would like to be able to reuse the stuff like coolant temp, mph, voltage, oil pressure, and fuel %. It’s a jegs electric dash cluster thing. Also wouldn’t a T fitting cause it to read oil pressure half of what it is or just off? Might just have to deal with it lol or just not hook up oil pressure to the terminator. Rather see it on my cluster than in the data log imo
@@SpyderGarage also how’s it still going with the terminator x? I’m looking into getting the terminator X Max for ease of tuning and for when I eventually wanna go with some turbos. Still just something to think about and do some more research about. But what’s your opinions after a few months of it still?
@@SpyderGarage that’s awesome I think imma order within the next month or two and install it this winter in my 2nd Gen camaro. Along with paint and bodywork lol. My only thing is just getting used to it but from what I’ve heard it’s 10x easier than hp tuners
Hi. I’m about to pull the trigger on the same system for my 1998 LS1 with 4L60E. Do you have the part number please. 550 916 is the one I’m looking at. Also. Do I need to get the injector harness separate or does it come with the kit ? Thanks for your time. Great informative video.
As long as you have the stock Bosch EV1 injectors, then yes, the 550-916 is the correct part #. And yes, you will need to purchase a separate injector harness for those style injectors. It doesn’t come with the Terminator kit because injector choice varies so much between cars that Holley keeps the kits separate.
Did you have to prune, cut and remove connectors on this Holley Ford small block Terminator universal harness to make this fit?. Or did you just leave harness as is and ziptie out of the way? My tech said he charges another $500 to prune, cut, and remove not used connectors and wires to make it fit nice on my 68 Mustang, or he can just keep harness as is and ziptie out of the way. Just curious what you did. Personally i dont like cutting anything on a new Harness period.
Did you ever get the actual data for the GM 12555894 injectors. I am just about to install this xmax with the exact same engine setup you have in this video. If you have can you share?
N/A--1 bar MAP sensor. DO NOT USE A MAP SENSOR OTHER THAN 1 BAR FOR N/A. There isn't a 1 bar that plugs into the terminator harness without a conversion pigtail, I use a LS3 1 bar sensor with the pigtail. If you're boosted, each roughly 10 PSI of boost requires 1 bar of sensor capability. So 2bar is good to 20, 3bar to 30, 4bar to 40, etc. etc. There is a 2 bar sensor (cobalt SS if I'm not mistaken) that plugs right into it.
Oh yeah, but I didn’t go into all the detail because there is 11 pages on the alternator alone. Find your particular style alternator in the book and they’ll have all you need in there. 👍🏻
Can you do a video on the starter wiring? Wired up my terminator and the only issue I have is no rpm signal.... no crank, no start. It's driving me insane
Do you know if they sell the handheld separately? I have a x max the only thing I had to do was buy a ev1 to multec harness separately but I bought it second hand and it did not come with the handheld it did come with a Holley 7.5 inch screen though
Awesome video thank you very much. How did connect your fans im having trouble understanding this part. Also one thing you might have missed to let us know is that the terminator x for some reason doesn’t come with a connection to alternator.
Yeah I had originally gone very detailed into that part of the dual fan setup but the video got too long, plus that wiring harness wasn’t technically part of the Terminator X kit either so I cut it out. As for the alternator, I briefly mention that there are 11 pages included in the manual regarding how to hook up your alternator and I explain it as well as I can, to include the resistor.
Lol. Umm… yes, but I mention it because it’s a choice you have to make. You can use it so long as you’re using a stock style fuel pump that doesn’t require more than 15 amps. (Also, run it to the “grey” wire and not the purple as I incorrectly did the first time)!😉
It was briefly used n the video with “hold music” and text, where I explained that we had to use the Holley Terminator software on our laptop that gives you more options than the CAN. At the time of filming, I hadn’t discovered that yet and had to stitch in the comment after the fact. 👍🏻
@@vandettabuilds6641 Yeah it’s difficult to find the exact info sometimes. I lucked out that my injectors were factory units and the info was out there. Best to call a tuner to ask how to input the precise on/off times and scale for your injectors because you don’t want to mess that up.
How long did it take you to install the system? I'm looking to do one in my gmc typhoon which the 4.3 motor us basically the v6 version of your motor just with the 2 cylinders chopped off. Oh and the power adder.
Literally only a few hours. What took the most time was drilling a hole in the firewall and running the wires through it. That’s the only part I didn’t include in the video.
@@jdgreen214 It was, but I will say that Holley will tell you in their instructions what size hole to drill and I would go with that. I “think” they recommend a 2” hole but make sure you read up on it.
I too have a ls1 swap but on my squarebody. Right now trying to figure out the “Injector off time” with same injectors as you 12554271. It’s not in my hand held device or the Holley software. Are you using the injectors # that are similar or made the correction? Thank you
We used the ‘actual’ injector part # using the laptop software instead of the CAN. It’s not super hard to find the injector on/off times online if you look, but I had a tuner verify my graduated on/off scale just be sure. 👍🏻
Thank you I’ll have to do that. I did buy the CAN but never found the injector also downloaded the new software 2.0 in hope it would come up. Will try it your way thanks again!
Just some friendly advice. Be careful jamming a multimeter probe in a connector pin. It will stretch the pin and cause terminal fretting and u will have intermittent electrical issues. But other than that great video man I was excited to see the car bust off
At idle if the engine is turning 800-1000 rpm, are you sure the tps should be zero? At idle I would expect to see 15% roughly. Maybe the Holley is different than GM.
We’ve since learned that a cold start will run a little rich AFR-wise and idle will be a couple hundred rpm higher. Once it’s warmed up it all goes back to normal where we set it.
The TPS on Stand alone ECUs (not just Holley) is always calibrated to 0% at idle and Holley EFI specifically says to recalibrate the TPS if/when the throttle itself has been reset IE throttle/idle screw turned in/out. That's because the Holley IAC (Idle Air Control) goes to it's "Hold Position" above 2% TPS. Quote from Holley Instructions -> Important note: "The TPS sensor must read less than 2% for IAC idle control to be enabled. If it is above 2%, the IAC will be forced to its “IAC Hold Position”...
This is possibly the best Terminator X install video out there. I learned as much from your mistakes as I did from your successes. Great camera work, especially on the oil pressure sender. Having your car’s wiring exposed like you have really made it easy to see where the wires went. Thanks again.
Yes thank you.
even idiots can make progress with wiring these things, if they persist. lol. persistence always pays off.
That real excitement when it started was the best part of this whole video. Made me smile for sure.
I really appreciate the reality of your video. That is the way it really goes.
The best terminator x install I've seen thank you guys for doing it. Really helped my build
Getting ready to do this on my '74 Jimmy, LOVE THE VIDEO!!!!!
can i ask did you run you starter wire straight to the battery which was in your hand on start up ?
How would I wire the starter to the steering column?
Great video! Where the MAT sensor connects into the intake at 5:34 do you have a part number or could anyone point me in direction I need to find something similar to that size grommet? Thanks
Thanks dude, I'm hoping to start mine foe the first time this week!!
Thank you for this. I’m learning bought the kit still need to put the motor in my chevelle
bought a truck wirth a 5.3 and terminator x max in it, but not complete in parts, this really helped to understand the set up, old school guy, was my first time with a Ls swap thanks, best help I have had
That’s awesome! Glad it helped. 👍🏻
I like this video because it like a everyday person doing the job and that feel when it crank up always
Great video. I’m starting my install on my Turbo Silverado tomorrow! I wish mine would be as simple as yours but it’s still a full interior vehicle. Glad to see it went smooth. Im of the same opinion as you about wiring….
Can you used oem gauge or the car gauge for display like speed and fuel capacity and such
The Term X doesn’t give you speed or fuel capacity so it won’t interfere with those stock factory functions at all.
I think that handheld "cover" is actually a mounting cradle.
It can be slid both ways to act as a cover or a cradle, but admittedly I think you’re right. 😅
I like this video. Very well explained. Great job
@@ronaldlevingston31 Thank you 🙏🏻
awesome!!! increíble Tks from Spain!!!
Excellent video! My 57 will be running the Terminator X for sure! I love how simple the system is, installation and you did a great job doing it like everyone will be doing, backyard style with human error. Keep the good work Ken!
Appreciate that! Yeah, we don’t hide our mistakes around here, nor do we pretend to know more than we do. 😅
I wanna do this for my 72 chevelle elco but will i have to use that screen or is there a way to wirebit to my dash so i have all the stock gage reading working
How was the starter and alternator hooked up?
How will the transmission know when to shift or shift manually if theres is no harness connected to it
@@Naleeze Vacuum to the modulator. (We had to dial up the modulator a bit but it works)
I've never been so stoked 🙌 to hear a Monza fire up. 🤘
@spyder garage
What is the the plug , your pointing at when talking about the accessorie input and out outs wire that are supplied
How did you run your alternator wiring?
I found myself clapping with you when it fired. Awesome.
Love the video keep up the good work, quick question in your crank wire is same as ignition wire?
In this case, yes. Both are switched, cranking power. 👍🏻
When you used internal map are you using the stock map sensor or did you use the blue tube on the ecu
Stock
Thank you this is the best holley terminator x max video i have seen well explained!
Thank you very much 🙏🏻
Great Video! Give me less anxiety for when I install my unit in the next couple weeks...thx!
Which priceless wiring kit u get & which should i get for a 1988 chevy burn my original cab harness up
We used a Painless Kit #10403
Thanks so much❤❤❤ quick question what did u do about the kick down cable from transmission
For the moment, it’s just off to the side because the plan was to always install an electronically controlled 4L60e. But I’ve seen guys who have retrofitted their throttle bracket to accommodate a kick-down cable as well.
Thanks you literally help me finally turn my truck on after 2 years ! Been waiting about 8 months on mechanics that said they will finish up the wiring for me watched this video and did it myself and now it’s running . By any chance did you make a video wiring up the transmission harness or you haven’t done it yet?
This is literally why I made this video! So glad you were able to use it to get your truck running! We’ve not yet swapped transmissions yet, but when we do we’ll be sure to include the Terminator harness details as well. 👍🏻
@@SpyderGarage yes very much appreciated!! Saved me time and money! . Even without the transmission control installed your able to drive the car or no?
@@floridashitglee9387 Oh we’ve driven it thousands of miles without it. The TH350 doesn’t require the controller and the Terminator is fine if it’s not plugged in. 👍🏻
How did you go with the injector selection in the end? I’m about to purchase the 550-903 Unit for my LS1. I have the same injectors as yourself but can’t find any information on them and Holley doesn’t have the specifications either.
Is the transmission harness optional on the terminator max?
No, it comes with it 👍🏻
Where did u get the grommet for your iat sensor??
Can’t remember, but I think not was an Amazon purchase.
Well Done, big Victory
So for clarity
Did that green fuel pump wire go to the gray wire on the pump after all?
Yes 👍🏻
@@SpyderGarage man for some reason I’m still not able to get power to the fuel pump- it’s a Holley in tank unit so it’s not that loud but damn I thought I would be able to hear it prime at least
Thanks for sharing. Found your channel at the right time. Im installing the Terminator X Into a 502 Ram jet crate motor. I am as nervous about it as you were.
Welcome to the channel! You’ve got this! 💪🏻
That look on your face when it started...like a kid on Xmas 🤣 Awesome video, thanks for uploading.
Is there away to hook a fuel gauge through the terminator x
@@Frogg1517 No, that is wired separately
@@Frogg1517 You can get Holley’s 7” Digital Dash to show fuel level, turn signals, brights, gauges, etc. but you’ll need the following to get you going.
www.holley.com/products/gauges_and_gauge_accessories/digital_displays_and_touchscreens/parts/558-432
documents.holley.com/199r10954rev2.pdf
www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/gauges_and_displays/lcd_displays/parts/558-433
documents.holley.com/199r10746rev1.pdf
Did u have to run a separate wiring for your starter how did u go about that
For the video, I ran a longer wire to it from the rear mounted battery, but otherwise, it’s just hooked up like normal. (I even noted in the video how I accidentally knocked that wire loose)
So the terminator can run your car accessories like lights and and stuff
No it cannot. It only manages your engine (& transmission if you get the X Max)
this is probably a stupid question but what would happen to the dash, like speedometer and tachometer if I deleted the ecm in a gm and used holly efi?
None of your gauge cluster would work other than maybe fuel level. With an auto transmission, you can have the holley control that and the handheld screen will display all of that, but its small. Its expensive but Dakota Digital makes gauges that would replace the stock gauges and interfaces off of the holley giving you all the readouts your old dash has. Highly recommend but its like $1K+ i think.
I love it very nice I feel a little better you made it very helpful now I can make up my mine thanks so much for sharing my question can I use a painless wire harness with it that has fuses and start up switch for a race car Gauges and lights or street race car
I’m not sure I completely understand the question. Can you word it another way, with punctuation?
whats your starter and alternator setup?
Hey Spyder! Great video, it really cleared up a couple concerns I had however I still have questions.
In the manual, I may have skipped or over read somehow, but I don’t see where it talks about wiring to the starter or alternator. Could you please shed some light on this topic?
If I got the terminator x max ls1 24x (550-919) am I restricted ls1 motors or am I able to go any 5.3 4.8 6.0 with the system ? Got it for a steal on market place lol thanks in advance haven’t gotten a clear answer
Awesome video. Thanks. LC9 swap into our 69 Galaxie Convertible. We are having crank rpm issue where it is not showing crank rpm. Engine runs but were not there yet but close!
What’s up question. I brought a 1986 Chevy caprice with LS swap. Terminator x max lights never lit up hand held comes on. VVS not plugged in nor speed plug. Will those not been plugged up cause the ecu not to communicate?
No those are not required in order for the ECU to work. Case-in-point: They’re not plugged in on our car either because we’re running a non-electronic TH350 transmission. When you say the lights didn’t come on, are you referring to the lights on the ECU itself?
Good stuff
I’m confused. That wire says it needs to go to the coil negative?
Can you put a time stamp on where you got confused at? I’m not sure what you’re referring to.
@@SpyderGarage man I apologize. I tried posting this on the video before and I guess as it was changing videos it put it on this one instead lol. Sorry nice build though
Where did you pull from for starter exciter wire? Said you’d cover it first minute of video and don’t see it mentioned at all. Also don’t see any mention about alternator.
So this eliminates the factory ecu right?
Yes sir 👍🏻
@@SpyderGarage cool! Would my factory gauges on my cluster still work, tach. Speedo. Fuel gauge oil pressure gauge? Or would it all be shown on the little touch screen that comes with it?
Thanks for an informative video, I'll be starting my journey soon with my 2000 Z28 L33 5.3 build
Can you still use the terminator x max wiring and have it still plug into dash? For example if you have oil pressure hooked up to the terminator x max but you don’t use the terminator x gauge thing can you still have it going to a different dash?
If I’m understanding the question, yes, you can install a T-fitting for a mechanical gauge underneath the Holley pressure transducer that feeds the CAN (handheld) or you can splice the wires and feed a separate electronic oil pressure gauge. But doing that will void Holley’s warranty.
@@SpyderGarage gotcha. Just asking because I got a neat little cluster and would like to be able to reuse the stuff like coolant temp, mph, voltage, oil pressure, and fuel %. It’s a jegs electric dash cluster thing. Also wouldn’t a T fitting cause it to read oil pressure half of what it is or just off? Might just have to deal with it lol or just not hook up oil pressure to the terminator. Rather see it on my cluster than in the data log imo
@@SpyderGarage also how’s it still going with the terminator x? I’m looking into getting the terminator X Max for ease of tuning and for when I eventually wanna go with some turbos. Still just something to think about and do some more research about. But what’s your opinions after a few months of it still?
@@812racing Honest opinion, I’ll never do another car without one. We love it that much!
@@SpyderGarage that’s awesome I think imma order within the next month or two and install it this winter in my 2nd Gen camaro. Along with paint and bodywork lol. My only thing is just getting used to it but from what I’ve heard it’s 10x easier than hp tuners
I hope I get that same feeling of accomplishment you did on my swap, I was fist pumping the air with you
Hi. I’m about to pull the trigger on the same system for my 1998 LS1 with 4L60E. Do you have the part number please. 550 916 is the one I’m looking at. Also. Do I need to get the injector harness separate or does it come with the kit ? Thanks for your time. Great informative video.
As long as you have the stock Bosch EV1 injectors, then yes, the 550-916 is the correct part #. And yes, you will need to purchase a separate injector harness for those style injectors. It doesn’t come with the Terminator kit because injector choice varies so much between cars that Holley keeps the kits separate.
@@SpyderGarage thanks for the reply. Keep up the great videos. From England 🏴
Did you have to prune, cut and remove connectors on this Holley Ford small block Terminator universal harness to make this fit?. Or did you just leave harness as is and ziptie out of the way? My tech said he charges another $500 to prune, cut, and remove not used connectors and wires to make it fit nice on my 68 Mustang, or he can just keep harness as is and ziptie out of the way. Just curious what you did. Personally i dont like cutting anything on a new Harness period.
Thanks for he video, finishing up a LS square body.. helped a lot
Does this only work with specific engines? I wanted switch my jag E type to direct injection and didn't know if this would work
It’s very universal, however they do have different kits for different engines but honestly, I’d call Holley first and give them your specifics.
@@SpyderGarage thanks, I'll see if they can help
Did you ever get the actual data for the GM 12555894 injectors. I am just about to install this xmax with the exact same engine setup you have in this video. If you have can you share?
How did you determine which map sensor to go with?
N/A--1 bar MAP sensor. DO NOT USE A MAP SENSOR OTHER THAN 1 BAR FOR N/A. There isn't a 1 bar that plugs into the terminator harness without a conversion pigtail, I use a LS3 1 bar sensor with the pigtail.
If you're boosted, each roughly 10 PSI of boost requires 1 bar of sensor capability. So 2bar is good to 20, 3bar to 30, 4bar to 40, etc. etc. There is a 2 bar sensor (cobalt SS if I'm not mistaken) that plugs right into it.
Are u using factory speedometer
No, we have aftermarket Stewart Warner gauges
Fantastic video, thank you
Great video. I'm starting to install mine now. The one question I have is the optional wire for the IAC kickout. Where does the wire connect.
Great video! Sure made that look easy!
Such a great video, thank you for breaking it down for us.
Is there any wiring for the alternator to charge the battery on the terminator?
Oh yeah, but I didn’t go into all the detail because there is 11 pages on the alternator alone. Find your particular style alternator in the book and they’ll have all you need in there. 👍🏻
Can you do a video on the starter wiring? Wired up my terminator and the only issue I have is no rpm signal.... no crank, no start. It's driving me insane
Thanks I have a little more confidence to do it
Awesome 👏🏻
Do you know if they sell the handheld separately? I have a x max the only thing I had to do was buy a ev1 to multec harness separately but I bought it second hand and it did not come with the handheld it did come with a Holley 7.5 inch screen though
Not officially on their website but I’d call them anyway to see what they could do for you. 👍🏻
Awesome video thank you very much. How did connect your fans im having trouble understanding this part. Also one thing you might have missed to let us know is that the terminator x for some reason doesn’t come with a connection to alternator.
Yeah I had originally gone very detailed into that part of the dual fan setup but the video got too long, plus that wiring harness wasn’t technically part of the Terminator X kit either so I cut it out. As for the alternator, I briefly mention that there are 11 pages included in the manual regarding how to hook up your alternator and I explain it as well as I can, to include the resistor.
Wait so that green wire for the fuel pump powers the fuel pump?
Lol. Umm… yes, but I mention it because it’s a choice you have to make. You can use it so long as you’re using a stock style fuel pump that doesn’t require more than 15 amps. (Also, run it to the “grey” wire and not the purple as I incorrectly did the first time)!😉
Love your Monza! I have a 78 2+2 that I just bought a Term X+ for. Awesome!
Nice!
What’s the link to that mat sensor
excellent video man
Mate you did fucking awesome explaining this and mine went first go thanks to you putting in the hard work first.
@@JustinKnowles-d5j Awesome, that makes me feel good!
@SpyderGarage you're welcome mate keep up to content
So what did you do about programming the fuel injectors???
It was briefly used n the video with “hold music” and text, where I explained that we had to use the Holley Terminator software on our laptop that gives you more options than the CAN. At the time of filming, I hadn’t discovered that yet and had to stitch in the comment after the fact. 👍🏻
Found at 19:38
@@SpyderGarage I’m in the same situation right now but I can’t get any info on the standard brand 500 dollar fuel injectors
The desk top asks technical questions about the custom fuel injectors that I can’t get any info on whatsoever
@@vandettabuilds6641 Yeah it’s difficult to find the exact info sometimes. I lucked out that my injectors were factory units and the info was out there. Best to call a tuner to ask how to input the precise on/off times and scale for your injectors because you don’t want to mess that up.
What starter did you use cuz I’m also running my stock 700r4 trans and idk what starter to use
We’re still running a stock TH350 and the factory LS1 starter worked fine (however we have an adaptor the spaces the flywheel back)
Thank you so much. Im hooking up my xmax now. I have been worried i will screw something up, so your video helps ease my mind.
That’s awesome! I’m glad it helped out your mind at ease. ☺️
What type of pedal are you using I'm trying install a ls but I heard that need some pedal modification?
We’re using our stock Monza gas pedal because we’re DBC (drive by cable)
Excellent tutorial
Very inspiring - excellent video thank you so much!
Great video, been thinking about getting one of those! Can you adjust timing? Kudos
Yup, you can even do it on the fly as you’re driving. 😉
You my friend just got another subscriber. I would have been bervous starting it too.
Great vid.
Thanks for the info
How should a shop charge for installation
Usually just a flat charge for something like this, especially if you’re already pretty familiar with the install.
How long did it take you to install the system? I'm looking to do one in my gmc typhoon which the 4.3 motor us basically the v6 version of your motor just with the 2 cylinders chopped off. Oh and the power adder.
Literally only a few hours. What took the most time was drilling a hole in the firewall and running the wires through it. That’s the only part I didn’t include in the video.
@@SpyderGarage Thank you. Great video!
@@SpyderGarage The car you used I wager was originally had a carburetor? Mine is election fuel injected from the factory the holes are already there.
@@jdgreen214 It was, but I will say that Holley will tell you in their instructions what size hole to drill and I would go with that. I “think” they recommend a 2” hole but make sure you read up on it.
@@SpyderGarage Will do. Thank you again.
I too have a ls1 swap but on my squarebody. Right now trying to figure out the “Injector off time” with same injectors as you 12554271. It’s not in my hand held device or the Holley software. Are you using the injectors # that are similar or made the correction? Thank you
We used the ‘actual’ injector part # using the laptop software instead of the CAN. It’s not super hard to find the injector on/off times online if you look, but I had a tuner verify my graduated on/off scale just be sure. 👍🏻
Thank you I’ll have to do that. I did buy the CAN but never found the injector also downloaded the new software 2.0 in hope it would come up. Will try it your way thanks again!
What is install time for something like this?
For a first timer, I’d say a weekend. After you’ve done one or two, you can do it 4-6 hours.
Just some friendly advice. Be careful jamming a multimeter probe in a connector pin. It will stretch the pin and cause terminal fretting and u will have intermittent electrical issues. But other than that great video man I was excited to see the car bust off
Thank you, will definitely remember that. 👍🏻
Your fuel pressure should be 58. Great video.
Thank you. We still need to get a pressure transducer for fuel pressure. 😅
How do I hook up the starter and alternater
Depends on the style alternator you have but Painless has 11 pages detailing the alternator/starter wiring alone for your specific application 👍🏻
This was awesome.
Nice work!
Why do you have to hook vacuum up ?
@@jakewilkey6788 The Holley ECU reads it to make adjustments to fuel/air/etc.
@@SpyderGarage so on a 5.3 with maf do I still need that ran to vacuum? Or if one just fine
@@jakewilkey6788 The Terminator ECU requires vacuum regardless, so yes.
Great video
Dude this is way cool!!!! Are you using the standard wiring for the dash and stuff?
Other than this Terminator X Max kit, we rewired the entire car with a new Painless Wiring 23-circuit kit - that’ll be the next video 😉
At idle if the engine is turning 800-1000 rpm, are you sure the tps should be zero? At idle I would expect to see 15% roughly. Maybe the Holley is different than GM.
We’ve since learned that a cold start will run a little rich AFR-wise and idle will be a couple hundred rpm higher. Once it’s warmed up it all goes back to normal where we set it.
The TPS on Stand alone ECUs (not just Holley) is always calibrated to 0% at idle and Holley EFI specifically says to recalibrate the TPS if/when the throttle itself has been reset IE throttle/idle screw turned in/out. That's because the Holley IAC (Idle Air Control) goes to it's "Hold Position" above 2% TPS.
Quote from Holley Instructions -> Important note: "The TPS sensor must read less than 2% for IAC idle control to be enabled.
If it is above 2%, the IAC will be forced to its “IAC Hold Position”...
cool car, I had a 75 Monza 2+2 with a 262 and 4spd, swapped in a 350, wish i had kept it