Sunset Sound Drum Setup - Warren Huart: Produce Like A Pro
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Warren walks through his drum recording setup at Sunset Sound. He shows the mic placement, channels on the console, and outboard gear he used for each piece of the drum kit while recording Kenny Aronoff at Sunset Sound.
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in a room that sonically amazing, an amazing console and with a drummer like kenny, its funny how just the talk back mic sounds better than most finished drum recordings!!!
Roy Cox That was my favorite one! Of course that AKG 414 is no joke of a mic either.
I'm no expert on recording (my drumming brother shared this with me) but, yeah, I thought the talkback mic sounded good!
When the first mic was played back i laughed and said - theres the drum sound
“As you can see we have five mics on the snare. We have a MD 441 on the top of the snare facing the center, a Coles 4037 Ribbon microphone on the side, and an SM57 on the bottom. We actually put a Neuman u47 inside the shell to simultaneously capture the low-end and transiences as well. You can also see here we have a piezo pickup taped to the side of the shell for... tone. Now if you walk with me, you’ll see we have two room mics, Neuman u67’s to be exact. Keep walking into the hallway, we’ve also got ourselves some unnamed and rare Japanese stereoscopic cardioid condensers to enhance the natural reverb of the kit. That’s right, keep walking! Outside of the studio we have an AKG D12 resting on the ground, really capturing the mellowness of the toms and kick that resonate even beyond the confined walls of the studio.”
jokes aside, this was really informative lol
that was hilarious!
And in the mix CLA will use his amazing drum samples 🤦🏻♂️ 😂
Those three overhead microphones sound banging!
Thanks ever so much!! I’m so glad to be able to help! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
Now this is absolutely invaluable information. Warren, you have absolutely no idea how much help you are giving people on web land. Mixing tutorials are great, but these production video's are exactly what is missing. Warren, you are a class act. You are a humble, helpful, friendly, and kind person. Thank you ever so much.
Hi +bull dozer Aw shucks!! Thanks very much for your kind words I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
'Could record with just the floor level room mics' no kidding! They sounded phenomenal.
Wow! Thanks ever so much
Produce Like A Pro Warren hope you are having a marvelous day. No one is teaching tracking on youtube we are over saturated with mixing tutorials but no one is teaching the tracking side of things in such a professional manner. I think showing how you go about tracking is great and as we all know tracking is the the most important part of the recording process because if you screw that up there no way to fix bad tracking in the mix. So Great job and can't wait to see more.
Hi joe salyers thanks for the incredibly kind words! It's wonderful to be appreciated for this. I agree great tracking is very important, without mixing is a very difficult task indeed. Have a marvelous time recording, many thanks Warren.
Please check out my drum recording video from Sunset Sound. I had a great time recording with Kenny Aronoff. Let me know what you think! Many thanks Warren
Awsome info. Really liked the insight you bring into this scene. Thank you for sharing.
Hi YURI LIRIANO that's very kind of you! Thanks very much for watching, have a marvelous time recording, many thanks Warren
When I first started watching the video, I thought that it was like an advanced brain surgery till hearing the sound. Then I realized that how amazing was the sound. We drummers need such care and attention. Well done and thanks for the video Warren.
He forgot to say "Hope your doing marvelously well! "
Just wanna say thank you so much for making these videos Warren. This video and the one at United, along with all of your other videos, are a constant reference for me. You have taught me and so many others so much for so little. I hope you know that it's appreciated
It's amazing how much you've achieved through great drums+room+drummer and mic placement! Thanks for sharing Warren, your insight is greatly appreciated :)
Hi Vlady Veselinov thanks for the comment! Yes agreed, Sunset Sound is one the best rooms in the world and of course Kenny Aronoff is one the greatest drummers ever! Have a marvelous time recording, many thanks Warren.
Great to see such a detailed walk-through. I especially appreciate some of those little insights and techniques that you've picked up along the way; avoiding the "basketball kick" sound, floor and wall reflection mics, and eq preferences.
That scenario looks like quite the perfect storm for great drum tracks!
Hi joereesemusic aw shucks thanks very much indeed! I really appreciate your kind words! Have a marvelous time recording, many thanks Warren
Thanks so much for making these videos, Warren. I discovered your youtube channel about a week ago and I can't even tell you how much you have helped me out and taught me about engineering. One of my favorite sounding records, Elliott Smith's XO, was recorded at Sunset Sound Studio 3 on this board so this is a HUGE treat for me to see how you utilize it. Again, thank you thank you thank you for everything
Hi +HIGHHOPES Thanks very much for your great comment I really appreciate it! So glad too be able to help!! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
Sunset Sound! Wow. When I arrived in Hollywood in 1967 i used to go past the studio every day. They had a big sign out front: 16 Track Recording! I always wanted to go in. Sadly never did.
Wow! Thanks ever so much for sharing
19:15 was everything!!!!!!! That console is banging!
Absolutely!!
Only problem with this is there is no LOVE button on TH-cam. Thanks Warren - this here is what I would call a meaty post! Great info M8!
Thanks Gr8tfulDude I really appreciate that! Have a marvelous time recording, many thanks Warren
This is an amazing resource thank you. Using the internet to spread greatness.
Just found this!! Wow iv'e done plenty of playing and recording my drum's for year's i thought i knew most everything on great sounding techniques but this guy is off the chart's with idea's that are sooo informative & insightful.thank's for these great idea's.....
Watched this video for the third time and it only gets better! Really helpful tips and lots of cool sounds!
Thanks ever so much!
Hey Warren, just a quick note to say thanks! What you do is so helpful to me in learning to record great sounding songs. I'm getting better each week. Jeff.
I dream of getting a drum sound a fraction this good... But I love seeing what you can do when you have a great room, console and a drawer of lovely mics. Back to my budget set-up :(
Hi Mark Green thanks ever so much indeed! Ultimately the Drummer is the most important part, Kenny Aronoff is of course one the best drummers in the world! Thanks extremely kind of you! Have a marvelous time recording, many thanks Warren.
We appreciate your insight and your knowledge very insightful. After seeing all these incredible studios I have been busting ass on making my humble little studio even better. Thx for sharing
Hi LTGold007 Thanks very much I really appreciate it! Really glad I am able to help out! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
This video was amazing! What a great insight to the use of top notch gear in a top notch studio by pros. This gives both home and upcoming engineers/producers alike a foundation starting point to achieve when recording drums.
Thanks for your videos. Because of this I went into Sunset Sound and recorded 6 drum tracks in September last year in the very spot you are in the video.
This is such an amazing look behind the curtain. So awesome!!
19:13 and there it is! My favorite drum sound of all your drum vids. I prefer it even over United’s 8068 console/room. I know tons more come into play, drummer, kit, mics, etc.. but that room and console at sunset is where it’s at!
Truly a fantastic drum setup tut! I appreciate the alternative mic suggestions since U67, etc..., aren’t necessarily in the average studio budget.
Man, this is awesome! This is such a deep video, I think I'll keep watching it a few times over whenever I want to review my drum recording techniques!
Hi MaxDonosoMusic thanks very much for the kind words! I really appreciate it. Have a marvelous tie recording, many thanks Warren
Wow what a great video! Really enjoying all your drum mixing/recording videos since I've just started getting into it all. Keep up the amazing work!
Hi Matthew, so glad to be able to help! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
Thanks Warren! I definitely appreciate the insider tour and creative miking tips.
Oh yeah, my new favorite channel. Really cool. Thanks man, appreciate all the info and insight you share.
I would kill for these multitracks. I swear I have watched this video over 100 times
Ok, I will have a look for what they are
@@Producelikeapro that would be amazing! You are awesome thank you ever so much! ;) haha
Such a great video. Disheartening for those of us trying to start a budget studio. Wonder how close of a sound could be achieved with similar style but lower priced mics. You can easily see why studios can charge what they do. The equipment on top of the construction technology that goes into a professional recording studio is astounding. So thankful for Warren and these videos.
That was a slice of heaven! thank you........i am influenced now by this information and your concise, articulate explanations.....so much fun :) Thanks Warren!
Warren, thanks so much for sharing this stuff man. This is as good as it gets!! Down and dirty drum miking. I can't believe I haven't tried the floor mics before, they sound awesome!!
Lovely sound, and what a great drummer. Thanks so much for the info.
Fantastic Warren....thank you so much for this. VERY informative indeed.
So much knowledge... brilliant to listen to. Thanks for this.
Super interesting! I remember recording in a professional studio for first time, and the artist being appalled at my bottom snare sound while listening to just the bottom snare mic. So much so he insisted i put tape on my snares. Then after full set listen back we were like, "where did the snare drum go?" Good times though...
Thanks Warren you are the best greetings from Colombia.
Hi +Astrobull Bull Terriers Hello in Columbia!! Thanks very much for your great comment I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Nice set of drums. My old drummer loved Kenny Aronoff that was his hero.
Hi +Watchman4u Yes Kenny is amazing! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Thank you Warren!! This is incredible information for me!! I do appreciate all the videos you post...
Hi +Willy Franklin Thanks very much for your great comment I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
Amazing video!!! Thanks for taking the time, new subscriber here. Those drums, the room, the drummer, the engineer, and that api console sound amazing!
Hi Steve Antoniazzi thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it! Have a marvelous time recording, many thanks Warren
I've watch all of your videos thank you for your time and effort. My favorite videos are your drum set up videos where you show the mic'ing then go down the console sharing your eq/signal chains. I've watched/listened to 3 drum set up videos back to back.
Sunset Sound Studio-
United Studio-
Hybrid Studio-
I know there are many factors that come into play for the difference in sound, the drummer, room, drums, mics, pre's, eq's, comps, monitors, monitors, etc...
The Sunset Sound Studio Drums are amazing and my personal favorite. They all sound great but those Sunset Drums are something really special. That sunset console with that room is really unbelievable. The 414 talkback mic could be used alone with the right song and it would be perfect.
Thanks Warren!
Love watching these videos
Sorry no questions but a great tour of and detail about the session, which is why no questions! The mark of a professional!
Hi Ralph Peebles thanks ever so much! That's fantastic to hear, so glad I can be of help! Have a marvelous time recording, many thanks Warren.
Wooooohoooo Sir! This is A.M.A.Z.I.N.G. F.A.T. drum sound! This is one of the best sound, what ever I heard! Your recording room is fantastic! ...course everything are great, but this room sound is impressed me! Thanks for this video! Regards, Peter
All of the room mics just sound amazing
Thanks Warren, nice to see the console operation!!
ThanksGustavo Justus do Amarante yes it's a wonderful console! Have a marvelous time recording, many thanks Warren.
I've only watched your Kenny Aronoff videos, but they were enough to get me to subscribe. Thanks for being so detailed with everything.. I'm eating it up. So interesting!
Hi +Chris Baker Great!! Yes Kenny ROCKS!!! I'm glad you enjoy the videos!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Great video, Warren! Appreciate the time you put in to this, mate. RIP, Prince.
Hi +Duane Bonney Thanks very much!! Yes RIP Prince! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren!
Another quality (marvellous!) video, mate. Great stuff.
All cool all Ideas..i love the double up miking..Just Fun all around!
Hi Simone white haha me too! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
Thanks for you excellent and informative videos! You explain things so clearly - nice to hear an english accent too!!
Hi farmtracks1 thanks very much, I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
Amazing and joyful info. Thx Warren.
Hi James Creek thanks very much for those kind words! Have a marvelous time recording, many thanks Warren.
This is splendid. I used the Golden Age MK3 active ribbon, somewhat closer to the kick sound hole. Made a large 18mm plywood frame with two layers of 'stockings' 🧐. No air blast issues. Thanks lots for your videos. 😊😊
I've sent link to my friend. He is just trying to record own drums in garage. Now he is browsing amazon for seconhand mics. LOL Thanks for this episode Warren.
Hi duchu14 thanks for that! Garages make GREAT Drum rooms! Let your friend know he doesn't have to spend that much money at all on mics, Lewitt, Shure and many other people make drum packages relatively cheaply. Thanks very much for watching, have a marvelous time recording, many thanks Warren
I don't know what to say!! Thank you once again!!! You know that I can't wait to use my 57+451 on hats. In July I have a record session and I will use these mics! Thank you so much dear Warren!!!!
Hi Luiz Ronconi you're welcome! So glad I was able to help! Let me know how it sounds. Have a marvelous time recording, many thanks Warren
I learned a lot from this guy. I love you!
i dont have the spendy mics but what i do have in my room work well this video gives us a clear guide as to what sound im lookin for absolutely priceless thank you thank you
I have a fever, and the only prescription is more room mics! LOL
cheers!
Learning a lot with you buddy!
Wonderful video and so excited to hear Roni Lee's new Album!
Thanks Derek Whitaker you Rock!! Yes Roni's album is sounding fantastic! Have a marvelous time recording! Looking forward to getting back in the studio with Kaedyn Kashmir soon! Many thanks, Warren
this is a wealth of info.....im working in studio on a project and this was inspiring and informative......you sir are amazing for sharing this :) ......best of luck...... i liked and subscribed :)
I'd "like" this twice if I could.
Aw shucks thanks lkb3rd I really appreciate it! Have marvelous time recording! Many thanks Warren
This is phenomenal
Informative, focused and very interesting/useful video. Good work!
Thanks ever so much André!
"Inexpensive five hundred dollar mic" yeeeeaaah...lol
Hi Ryan, Haha funny! When you're surrounded by 15k Mics and the most people assume $300 is the first good sounding condenser, then $500 is (as I said in the video) 'Relatively Inexpensive'. Have a marvellous day!
Produce Like A Pro totally agree! But I had to chuckle because I literally just got finished setting up my SM-137's ($179.00 brand new) and when I heard that all I could think is "I've got a ways to go here". Lol I actually came across you channel because I was looking up tips and whatnot WHILE I was setting them up.
Ryan Sargent Hey, how are you liking those SM137's? I've been eyeing them, but unfortunately I can't find a single reference video!
This is so great!
I didn’t think to count but by the time he got to the back of the room mics it became apparent that he’s using easily over $50,000 worth of mics. Yikes.
In german we say Big Cinema „großes Kino“ nice Sound !!!👍👍
That sounded great just listening on my iPhone.
Looks like a great place to work! Brilliant use of their console and mics, Warren! The "low" mono was great! I also thought the Coles kick added a lot of pillow and smack that was lacking in the other two mics. I think it would've sounded a little too thin and not puffy enough without it. The final mix sounded great! I love the way the API EQ both enriches the signal as you sculp out the tone AND adds a subtle transient compression/snap that gives it a spanky sound that will really require minimal processing in the mix.
Hi Kirsten Monahan Aw shucks!! Thanks very much for your kind words I really appreciate it! Sunset Sound is such an amazing room! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
Thanks for the insights Warren!!!!!
Thanks Ron Harris I really appreciate it! Have a marvelous time recording, many thanks Warren
HI Warren just found your video's today . Amazing . You explain everything very well . Haven't found anyone that does it like you . You can tell that you really enjoy your job (if you want to call it that ) And that comes across on the video . Excellent watching more and have subscribed. Thank you
Hi RottenCryptStudios hanks very much for those kind words! Thanks for subscribing!! Yes I am blessed to get to do what I love for a living and definitely want us to all learn together! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
Fantastic - those low mics sound really Beastie Boys !
Hi Craig Dove thanks! Sunset Sound is a great room! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
At 5:50 I see a short desktop mic stand with what looks like a 5 lb free weight on top of it. What a great idea. Worth the price of admission alone ;) Thank you Warren !
Man that talk back sound better than half the rooms I’ve ever been in. You get what you can pay for. 😎
Btw... Those mics on actual floor sound amaze balls.
Hahaha thanks
Great vid. You can finally hear the single mic's.
outstanding man
THXX A LOT
Great video, it's fantastic to hear the mics on different instruments, like a Coles 4038 on a kick, who would have thought. All the best, greetings from Cape Town South Africa!
Hi Milestone Studios | Cape Town, glad to be able to show you all of the different ways I record drums! Hello in Cape Town! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Thanks Warren, will keep an eye on your channel. All the best!
learned much again. love u. thanx
Really interesting to see those Room Mics you placed, particularly the floor and wall facing ones. I've never seen or used that technique before, probably because I've never used a truly great sounding studio to record in, but it was an amazing effect when you played them in the mix.. It made the drums so much more natural and present sounding. Fantastic tips as always.. Cheers Warren!
Hi ibanezman04 thanks ever so much! Yes agreed these techniques obviously work best in a larger room and I don't employ them at my own studio. If you watch my video with Greg D'Angelo th-cam.com/video/MCgAoiolbTw/w-d-xo.html you can see how I record drums here at my own Studio. Thanks very much for watching, have a marvelous time recording, many thanks Warren
Produce Like A Pro My pleasure. Thank you for continuing to put out great content and more importantly taking the time to reply, interact and share your thoughts with the fans! Thanks again.
Hi ibanezman04 thanks very much! That's extremely kind of you! I hope we can create a great community of users that can all help each other out here! Thanks very much for watching and commenting, have a marvelous time recording, many thanks Warren
Hey Warren, absolutely love this video as drums are probably my favorite to track, just a quick question....apart from your talkback mic, what polar pattern are the other room mics set to? Thanks, Mark.
realy a genious Warren, thanks.
Thanks for the great post and info and also the the other videos. I've watched pretty much all your videos and always look forward to the new ones. Quick question for you..How do you incorporate those room mics into the final mix?
Hi gospodruma thanks for the great question! I like to use a great combination of mics when in a room as fantastic as Sunset Sound. In the mix (depending on the song) I might use a pair of room mics then add just the kick and snare or for drier tones no room mics at all. I love having choices when mixing. I hope that helps. Have a marvelous time recording, many thanks Warren.
Outstanding
Sounds great!!!
Thanks jack smith! I really appreciate it! Have a marvelous time recording, many thanks Warren
Watching this again. The three soloed up room mics could be the drum sound.
This is one of the more unique videos about recording drums. This was quite eye opening. obviously I wish I had all those mics but I am thinking of some other ways to do this when I have the time and the artist who has the budget for all day drums. I would love to see what you would make out of the live room I use. Thanks for the video, Really incredible.
Hi Bscaggs13 thanks very much! Agreed even if we don;t have all of these mics we can still apply the techniques! My own studio has quite a small live drum tracking room! Thanks very much for your great comment I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
This is incredible work Warren and thank's for sharing. I see mic's there I own that you use. AKG D112 I have difficult to get any good sound from, but I will certenly try some more now.
Hi Peter Martinsson thanks for the great question. Yes I have found the D112 sounds best inside the kick, also with the kick deadened a little and the low miss taken out, 60Hz boosted and a little top end boost for attack. The D112 to me is not a mic I use to create a natural sounding kick, but more of a Rock, aggressive kick sound, I typically blend it with the other kick mics. Have a marvelous time recording, many thanks Warren.
Amazing video, and an equally amazing sound. Warren, I would love if you would do a video around tracking a band LIVE in the studio, and ways you deal with bleed, how your micing arrangements may change, and tips and tricks for getting clean, yet vibey recordings! I, along with many others are trying to do more and more WHOLE BAND recording sessions and would love to hear your tips surrounding the subject... for instance, interested to hear how you would deal with drums in that scenario.
Hi +Patrick Monaghan Fantastic!! I definitely will do more on this soon! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
wow!!! killer drum sound absolutely phenomenal, is there a video of you mixing this?
Hi jon kuru thanks for the great comment! Not yet but there might be! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
A very instructive and valuable video, Warren. Thank you for sharing this. I do not agree on everything, tend to remove the SM57s out of any recording equation, but in the end the dry sound going to and straight coming of these tracks is amazing! And that is all what counts in the end. Thanks again and looking forward to see more microphone placement videos!
Why don't you like the SM57s?
I just do not like their distortion and coloratiin and lack of definition and tend to do everything with condensers and/or ribbons, but if that is just what you are looking for, why not go ahead with these old school dynamics.
yummy that room sound though!
Awesome total board sound...love Kenny A....used to dream of replacing him when he left Johnny Cougar..thanks for the tips.....methinks I'm gonna go try my large diaphragm condenser on the resonant kick head !!
Hi +Todd Drummer Yes Kenny rules!! Indeed try a large diaphragm on the on the resonant has, you'll love it! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
best...tq i learn something for this video....
After watching this, definitely going to experiment with "low overhead" mics pointing to the floor. Such a full and lovely sound.
Thanks ever so much
I just lay pencil mics on the wooden floor. They sound pretty good!
Hey Warren, great video as usual! I'm curious to hear the final product. How do I find it?
Thanks
This video is gold, great content Warren.
Quick question: the 2 mics that you use for the hihats, do you use a special double mic clip or are they joined together with only rubber bands?
Great videos! I'm learning a lot from these! Thanks! I'm a little confused on which order to flip phase if necessary on the relationship to the overheads. If you flip the phase on your d112 to match the other kick mics, won't that mess with the phase with the overheads. It seems like a phase flip domino affect, once you change one it will throw off another. I understand the top and bottom mic phase flip, just not too clear on the overheads to individual drums phase flipping. Also should you sum the 2 mic snares to a single channel and flip the summed channel to the overheads if necessary? Thanks
Hi +Powell Randolph Thanks for your comment! All of the kick mics should be exactly in phase with each other, they are all pointed the same direction. I only need to flip the phase on the bottom mics. I personally always print the snare top and bottom separately. I hope that all makes sense? Thanks very much I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
Thanks for your help, Warren! Love your videos!
Hi Warren, awesome video! Can you tell us what kind of compression/compressor did you use on kick, snare and different rooms, please? Many thanks Franck
Hi dowemusic thanks for the great question. The only compression I may use on drum tracking is a DBX160XT on the Kick in, a 1176 on the snare top, a Distressor on the talkback mic, but no other mics had any compression on them and the couple I did use were barely compressing except for the Talkback mic. Kenny is a very even sounding drummer so I don't need to compress him much if at all during tracking. But even then I only really compress the kick and sane lightly with any drummer and do more compression at the mix stage. I hope that helps! Have a marvelous time recording! Many thanks Warren