I can never ‘get’ how people can give clips like this a thumbs-down. Terrific video, with lovely characters. Informative and solid work, SOS, many thanks.
LOL i was jus going to comment that! That comment made me laugh so hard haha. Was totally thinking that myself lol. Running pro gear,, got sick mics...crap forgot to buy tools... #FirstWorldStudioProblems lol
My father was a studio musician from the late '40s to '85 and that was pre-overdubbing and pre multi-mic's and over-isolated instruments. He started commenting around the late 60's I think it was "Why do they have to make the kick drum sound like a cardboard box and conga drums so thin?". But at the same time sound-stage and better studios were improving their playback which he'd also comment on...early transistor mics and gear was horrible, tinny and harsh, just listen to movies and records around that time!
Absolutely true, i had a lot of trouble with recording drums, trying all kinds of mic placement and EQing, until i decided to change my drum heads for a change and actually take the time to properly tune them. It makes all the difference in the world.
New drum heads are an easy and cheap thing to do. New skins, well tuned, will make most kits sing. Cymbals might cost more. Consider buying used and always try before buying. There's often a huge range of sound on the same model straight out of the factory, let alone before someone else has pounded the crap out of them :-).
This is one of the most informative videos about recording drums that I've ever seen. Thank you for getting straight to the point and also using examples within the DAW
This is one of the best tutorials ever. Simple to the point shows the frequency’s and the setup of this kit which you can actually use for any other kick instead of changing every eq band and adjusting other eq to accommodate the mess people make all the time.
Fantastic video. Well done gentlemen. Its too easy to complain about a room, much more constructive to discuss how to deal with it and make good music.
One small point. When recording a small kick drum with a weak fundamental (around 80Hz as you suggest) I've found that a narrow boost at the first harmonic (Q about 2.5 - 3.0) of 160Hz tends to fill in the bottom nicely through its psychoacoustic affects on the fundamental. Be careful (of course) not to boost too strongly, but a small amount of boost at this 1st harmonic should add to the bottom without also adding mud to the sound... DT Hazelrig
what a fantastic wealth of information, im 3 years late but wow, and he asks all the questions I had pretty much as they came up so both of you guys absolutely stellar video!
Loved this video. I’m more for trying to tweak the room and the kit and performance even more rather than post effects, but the folks from SoS provide a working approach that is also easier for less experienced drummers. It’s very informative and extremely helpful. Awesome!
Very helpful tips, thank you! It would have been great, however, to use an experienced drummer. The sound produced by the kit at the hands of a good drummer can be substantially different.
Fantastic, thank you! Very impressed by the excellent sound you achieved with quite modest resources - fascinating (and your drumming is quite passable, don't put yourself down!). Thanks again for posting.
I use a 2p piece between two layers of gaffa tape to dampen Skins. You can vary the size of the coins. But the 2p is usually the best. And dampens much better than tissue. You can get a bit too dead with coins sometimes. But it can be really cool for funk or stuff like that.
One other small suggestion. An interesting trick for a bottom snare mic can be done through placing a couple of pieces of ceramic tile beneath the snare and pointing a microphone setup at the level of the bottom head of the snare towards the highly reflective ceramic tile. This produces much the same effect as a more standard bottom mic of the snare drum with less chance of phase anomalies... DT Hazelrig
These are great tips. Perhaps? the only thing I'd wonder is why if your going for a good sounds and talk about tuning the kit before you press rec- why would you use factory heads on a kit- it be makin no cents. Even on cheap drums quality heads make a huge difference.
I get the feeling, looking at the kit, that they’re kind of gearing this toward people exactly like him: someone who is not a drummer by nature, but has a home studio and happens to have his own drum kit that he picked up cheap, and either doesn’t have the money to be replacing heads, cymbals, etc., or just doesn’t know enough about it by virtue of the fact that he’s not a drummer by profession. I’ve been in a similar situation, where a friend wanted to record a quick EP on my new Tascam 8 track in his living room (while his roommates were out for the weekend) and wanted to use his $80 drumkit rather than trying to use a drum machine or making tracks in GarageBand or something like that. The kit he had was a starter kit for kids, all straight out of the box with the exception of nicer hi-hats, so it did not sound amazing.. but we tuned them until they sounded cool and worked with the room, and then tried to capture that sound with the mics. The result was pretty similar to this, only we weren’t deadening the sound as much as these guys did only to try and add it back in the mix. In the end we got it sounding pretty good, mastered it to VHS tape, made digital copies from there, and he handed them out at his next show. Not something I’d necessarily try to recreate, but it worked for the project. But yes, I would have gotten a real kit with good heads if I was able at the time.
Biggest problem I have with recording my drums in my home (small rooms & low ceilings) is separation of the mics from each other. Impossible to keep the snare out of the bass drum. I made a sound block out of heavy drape and some wire that I hung from the snare rim this helped some but not a lot really.
If a producer have a small room and can't get a good drum sound, GO TO ANOTHER STUDIO to record them. Young producers needs to get out from the confort zone of their bedrooms and start to work on another enviroments and tools for develop their own criteria and experience. (And wknow why they buy the gear they have) As a producer you have the logistics, so if you need to go to another studio to get good drum sounds, GO. Rent the studio, go with the artist, work with another engineer or do it yourself. Rent some hours on a proper studio and save hours of over-compressing and over-eq'ing tracks for make ithem just work. Big Studios are there for something,. Young Producer: Start putting your name on higher quality stuff. Nobody will do it for you.
I was thinking to try 4 mics for overhead, 2 condenser mics space pair measure same distance to the snare and 2 of SM57 mics with ORTF or XY and measure the same distance to the snare with the earliest 2 space pair condenser mics, maybe is just a silly idea to get bolder sounds of the drum kit and more natural cymbals sound
Great video, and thanks for all the content, discussion, and interesting tips and tricks. If I may just offer some constructive criticism - I think the snare sounded a bit anemic. It had a sort of thin, ‘sample’ quality to it, inorganic if you will. Id’ve liked it with more low end, and more ring - it was lacking a ‘fatness’ and was too tame and flat. A little ring in a snare is a good thing, it’s a characteristic of the drum and ties the kit together as well. And (especially nowadays) the fat, beefy snare sound is omnipresent. Deeper snare drums are very much in use today (14”x8” seems to be the new “gotta have”), even the ‘snom’ (floor tom with a snare system) is gaining traction, all to capture that BIG round booof of a big snare. Kind of an equal and opposite reaction to the wimpy drum machine snare sound possibly. BOOOF.
Drum Dials are ok but remember a drum does not always sound good or the best it can when the head is tensioned exactly the same way on all the lugs. This may work on some drums, it is not a technique that will work every time on every set. Be careful not to relay on this, and remember drums are not strictly a 'melodic instrument', don't neccesarily have a 'note', I find a more 'feeling' approach as is mentioned here with the bass drum a better approach. I also understand and respect tuning and the sound of your drums is very personal so play around with different techniques until you find one that works for you. This approach may work for you but not the next person, just be aware there are many different ways!
Really great tips even though i have thought on removing the fundamental the toms because that where i want it to resonate an give me the punch but i will try you technique
Please build panels out of insulation wool instead of using foam panels. Much more effective down to the lower frequencies. Even a stack of towels beats "acoustic foam". A good test is to simple place the insulation up to your ear and listening to the damping effect. A good fix to get rid of annoying small room resonances with drums is a multi-band expander.
You obviously missed the part of the video where they explained that there are mineral wool panels on the walls and the foam was on the ceiling to reduce high frequency reflections.
I am totally confused because everything you’re saying seems very counterintuitive… When you don’t have a lot of space to record the drums why would I want to put foam and things that are going to deaden the sound even more? Isn’t the whole point of getting a good sound having a nice and big drum room that lets the drums have room to breathe?
you end up with real low frequency build up in the corners of your room and your kit will sound like its in a rubbish tin with all the mid frequency reflections. Better off having as little as pos and eqingn instead
Small rooms = lots of low mid frequencies bouncing back very quickly into your mics.even the close mics despite what Paul said. They’ll ruin a drum sound as with no appreciable/useable reverb they’re just a pain. Deaden the room ( evenly.. not just the HF) and re create the reverb with outboard fx/plug-ins.
Accepting the limitations of your space and developing a love for your own unique recorded sound is the biggest mental hurdle. If you compare your recordings with Abbey Road, you'll never be happy! Oh, and don't forget a Wurst (look up Moses Schneider) and get yourself a decent drummer - much more important than mic placement!
Can I possibly do a modified Glyn Johns or Decca Tree to record in a decent size bedroom? I’m brand new to recording/mixing and all that and not even 2 years into my drum kit, but I was able to get a few cardioid mics as a rebate and currently have 2 setup as a spaced pair (nothing is plugged into anything yet, just the stands and mics), I originally wanted to be able to get the actual Decca Tree layout which is the 2 spaced overheads about 2 meters apart and then a third is placed in the middle about 1.5 meters away to create a triangle. Now, I don’t have the room to really space my overheads over the kit 2 meters because the left side of my kit goes up to a wall, so I’m mainly wondering, am I able to scale down the Decca Tree, still keep a 2:1.5 ratio for mic spacing, can I make like a mini Decca Tree? Or am I better of just using them as standard condensed spaced overheads and use the third as a mono or just kinda down low in front of the kit to pick up a lot of the bass, but also some of the resonance the overheads aren’t (cause I’m just starting out) because I don’t yet have a proper bass mic, such as a a sennheiser e602 or e902 or the Shure Beta 91A are all spectacular, but I’m only just getting into mic’ing and mixing, so I’d rather take it a bit slower and not spend hundred upon hundreds yet. Any advice is appreciated.
In this video they are using logic. I suggest taking a look at reaper too, logic is nice for writing songs but mixing and editing are nicer in pro tools and reaper (YMMV) plus reaper is only 60 euro. I use a combination of pro tools, reaper, and logic depending on what task I'm using it for.
escelent video, although i disagree about moving drums. ofcoarse a drummer has to be carefull but if everything is all too close together bleed starts to become an issue especially with drummers who like to smash cymbals. were not talking moving stuff miles away just a few inches. dependant on style of music though as sometimes you may want to bleed so it sounds more organic. If your mixing metal, this is a must! Having hihats right next to the snare is a disaster, and usually the drummer becomes inconsistant and cant hit the snare hard enough particularly in faster beats. its important for engineers and musicians to work together to get the best results for the record. You dont need to say you need to move that, discuss say such and such may sound better if theres a bit more space or thats a bit higher. if its detrimental to your performance well move it back.
I'm doing electronic music, but would like to implement some acoustic instruments in the far future. I'm gonna record one drum in at a time after I've recorded my other electronic sounds, which would include the kick and claps in this scenario. What mics would anyone recommend for a snare, hat, ride, hand drums and shakers? :)
Any good quality small diaphragm condenser should do the job. If you’re not wanting to spend too much, something like a Rode NT3/AKG C1000 should be fine
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Good tips for the humble home recordist
Live mixing and studio mixing tips. Helps the humble guy to stop over doing his eqs
I can never ‘get’ how people can give clips like this a thumbs-down. Terrific video, with lovely characters. Informative and solid work, SOS, many thanks.
Too old geezers banging on about room reflections in a garage? I can't imagine why! Lol.
Probably they want to see a performance even though the guy cant play
@@ramonkey2939 It's about recording.
@@joelonsdale It's about recording. Don't watch it.
@@dangrahamdrums You've misunderstood both the posts - we were agreeing with the original positive post in a humourous way (notice the lol).
"Or a tape measure if you can afford one."
"Oh, that's posh."
Gotta love British humor.
LOL i was jus going to comment that! That comment made me laugh so hard haha. Was totally thinking that myself lol. Running pro gear,, got sick mics...crap forgot to buy tools... #FirstWorldStudioProblems lol
I lost it! 😂
"Hitting a suitcase with a partly thawed haddock" - impossible to beat.
My father was a studio musician from the late '40s to '85 and that was pre-overdubbing and pre multi-mic's and over-isolated instruments. He started commenting around the late 60's I think it was "Why do they have to make the kick drum sound like a cardboard box and conga drums so thin?". But at the same time sound-stage and better studios were improving their playback which he'd also comment on...early transistor mics and gear was horrible, tinny and harsh, just listen to movies and records around that time!
Spend as much as you can afford on good cymbals and drum heads and spend time on tuning and that will really, really help.
Absolutely true, i had a lot of trouble with recording drums, trying all kinds of mic placement and EQing, until i decided to change my drum heads for a change and actually take the time to properly tune them. It makes all the difference in the world.
I absolutely agree.
New drum heads are an easy and cheap thing to do. New skins, well tuned, will make most kits sing. Cymbals might cost more. Consider buying used and always try before buying. There's often a huge range of sound on the same model straight out of the factory, let alone before someone else has pounded the crap out of them :-).
That, with some shure 57s. You'll be fine.
Starting out you only really need c2s for overheads, beta 52 for kick, and 57 on snare
Love these guys. “A good cymbal is a wondrous thing and a bad cymbal is...not.”
The lazer pointers on the overheads blew my mind lol
This is one of the most informative videos about recording drums that I've ever seen. Thank you for getting straight to the point and also using examples within the DAW
The best magazine period. The most researched people. You guys are the best.
This is one of the best tutorials ever. Simple to the point shows the frequency’s and the setup of this kit which you can actually use for any other kick instead of changing every eq band and adjusting other eq to accommodate the mess people make all the time.
Two legends. Amazing that content like this is provided at no charge!
I've been watching Drum Miking video's all day - this has by far been the most informative - thank you guys!
Fantastic video. Well done gentlemen. Its too easy to complain about a room, much more constructive to discuss how to deal with it and make good music.
One small point. When recording a small kick drum with a weak fundamental (around 80Hz as you suggest) I've found that a narrow boost at the first harmonic (Q about 2.5 - 3.0) of 160Hz tends to fill in the bottom nicely through its psychoacoustic affects on the fundamental. Be careful (of course) not to boost too strongly, but a small amount of boost at this 1st harmonic should add to the bottom without also adding mud to the sound...
DT Hazelrig
Hahaha I love 10:47 "Would you trust your capacitor mic to a drummer?"
Just ask my dented U87 overhead mic!
Having some acoustic treatment above the overheads is big brain time. Haven't heard that mentioned before
This is such a goldmine for the little guys out there. Cheers boys!
what a fantastic wealth of information, im 3 years late but wow, and he asks all the questions I had pretty much as they came up so both of you guys absolutely stellar video!
Loved this video. I’m more for trying to tweak the room and the kit and performance even more rather than post effects, but the folks from SoS provide a working approach that is also easier for less experienced drummers. It’s very informative and extremely helpful. Awesome!
Great video 👏👏 you guys pretty much went over everything fundamental to getting the drums where they need to be.
This is one of the best videos for at-home drum recording on youtube! Thanks for this
Great tip on how to check the phase of the mics! THANKS!
Thanks for the 500 Hz kick tip ;).
This is a very practical and helpful video for home studio owners. Thanks!
1:29 whoah...stern and direct. Complete with lofty stare down. His patience had been sorely tested by that point.
Very helpful tips, thank you! It would have been great, however, to use an experienced drummer. The sound produced by the kit at the hands of a good drummer can be substantially different.
Fantastic, thank you! Very impressed by the excellent sound you achieved with quite modest resources - fascinating (and your drumming is quite passable, don't put yourself down!). Thanks again for posting.
Hi Paull / Hugh. This takes me back to when you came back to my house studio.
Thank you. Straight to the point. I took a lot of notes and learned a lot.
Great tip on shaping the bass drum EQ
Excellent advice, and nice drumming Paul!
I appreciate the use of stock plugins for this
Hey thank you for this, it's very useful and to Paul - You're really not bad on the drums! Well done! Thanks.
Thanks! I really learned a lot from this video.
Nice video, guys - great banter. I wouldn't want a ticking clock in my studio though!
I've always wondered what Bob Flemming's studio would look like. Nice. :)
I'm actually really liking that kick drum sound. What size of a kick was this? Looks to be 16".
I use a 2p piece between two layers of gaffa tape to dampen Skins.
You can vary the size of the coins.
But the 2p is usually the best.
And dampens much better than tissue.
You can get a bit too dead with coins sometimes.
But it can be really cool for funk or stuff like that.
This is ultimate, thank you 🙏
Just a note always pick up the drum dial and set it back down as to not get false readings
What’s a drum dial?
You guys are brilliant.
is there much difference between using the sub kick plug in, and just opening that low cut back up on the EQ how you were doing @17:30?...
Thank you!
thank you, that was really helpful!
Great tips thanks
This video is great! An awful lot of useful information!
One other small suggestion. An interesting trick for a bottom snare mic can be done through placing a couple of pieces of ceramic tile beneath the snare and pointing a microphone setup at the level of the bottom head of the snare towards the highly reflective ceramic tile. This produces much the same effect as a more standard bottom mic of the snare drum with less chance of phase anomalies...
DT Hazelrig
You guys are great!
Excellent video. Lots of great pointers
These are great tips. Perhaps? the only thing I'd wonder is why if your going for a good sounds and talk about tuning the kit before you press rec- why would you use factory heads on a kit- it be makin no cents. Even on cheap drums quality heads make a huge difference.
Agreed. Where are they getting these engineers anyway? Just your average joe with an SOS shirt having a go at recording ??
I get the feeling, looking at the kit, that they’re kind of gearing this toward people exactly like him: someone who is not a drummer by nature, but has a home studio and happens to have his own drum kit that he picked up cheap, and either doesn’t have the money to be replacing heads, cymbals, etc., or just doesn’t know enough about it by virtue of the fact that he’s not a drummer by profession.
I’ve been in a similar situation, where a friend wanted to record a quick EP on my new Tascam 8 track in his living room (while his roommates were out for the weekend) and wanted to use his $80 drumkit rather than trying to use a drum machine or making tracks in GarageBand or something like that. The kit he had was a starter kit for kids, all straight out of the box with the exception of nicer hi-hats, so it did not sound amazing.. but we tuned them until they sounded cool and worked with the room, and then tried to capture that sound with the mics. The result was pretty similar to this, only we weren’t deadening the sound as much as these guys did only to try and add it back in the mix. In the end we got it sounding pretty good, mastered it to VHS tape, made digital copies from there, and he handed them out at his next show.
Not something I’d necessarily try to recreate, but it worked for the project. But yes, I would have gotten a real kit with good heads if I was able at the time.
Biggest problem I have with recording my drums in my home (small rooms & low ceilings) is separation of the mics from each other. Impossible to keep the snare out of the bass drum. I made a sound block out of heavy drape and some wire that I hung from the snare rim this helped some but not a lot really.
Just find hi hats , snare and great cymbals and heads that work with your kit. Some heads to give justice to the wood
If a producer have a small room and can't get a good drum sound, GO TO ANOTHER STUDIO to record them.
Young producers needs to get out from the confort zone of their bedrooms and start to work on another enviroments and tools for develop their own criteria and experience. (And wknow why they buy the gear they have)
As a producer you have the logistics, so if you need to go to another studio to get good drum sounds, GO. Rent the studio, go with the artist, work with another engineer or do it yourself.
Rent some hours on a proper studio and save hours of over-compressing and over-eq'ing tracks for make ithem just work.
Big Studios are there for something,.
Young Producer: Start putting your name on higher quality stuff. Nobody will do it for you.
Lovely video, guys - thanks!
Great video SOS. Thanks
I was thinking to try 4 mics for overhead, 2 condenser mics space pair measure same distance to the snare and 2 of SM57 mics with ORTF or XY and measure the same distance to the snare with the earliest 2 space pair
condenser mics, maybe is just a silly idea to get bolder sounds of the drum kit and more natural cymbals sound
brilliant. thank you so much
Great tips for making the room sound muddy. You need broadband absorption, foam and blankets only absorb the highs, which are less of an issue anyway.
Very helpful and practical tips...
Thank you, very informative.
Good video asked all the right questions!
Great. thx!!!
Thanks for the good tips
Great video, and thanks for all the content, discussion, and interesting tips and tricks. If I may just offer some constructive criticism - I think the snare sounded a bit anemic. It had a sort of thin, ‘sample’ quality to it, inorganic if you will. Id’ve liked it with more low end, and more ring - it was lacking a ‘fatness’ and was too tame and flat. A little ring in a snare is a good thing, it’s a characteristic of the drum and ties the kit together as well. And (especially nowadays) the fat, beefy snare sound is omnipresent. Deeper snare drums are very much in use today (14”x8” seems to be the new “gotta have”), even the ‘snom’ (floor tom with a snare system) is gaining traction, all to capture that BIG round booof of a big snare. Kind of an equal and opposite reaction to the wimpy drum machine snare sound possibly. BOOOF.
Paul White knows his stuff...
Great tips overall, but what were they thinking with that high tom tone?
Nicely done!
Drum Dials are ok but remember a drum does not always sound good or the best it can when the head is tensioned exactly the same way on all the lugs. This may work on some drums, it is not a technique that will work every time on every set. Be careful not to relay on this, and remember drums are not strictly a 'melodic instrument', don't neccesarily have a 'note', I find a more 'feeling' approach as is mentioned here with the bass drum a better approach. I also understand and respect tuning and the sound of your drums is very personal so play around with different techniques until you find one that works for you. This approach may work for you but not the next person, just be aware there are many different ways!
A whole lot of good info guys! Cheer-O! 💕🥰💕🥰🙏🙏😎😎
Man he wasn’t kidding about that crash cymbal 😅
Great video, thanks!
I have an 8x10ft room that I want to turn into a drum/bass/guitar recording area. Help.
Really great tips even though i have thought on removing the fundamental the toms because that where i want it to resonate an give me the punch but i will try you technique
Wonderful video
Brill! thanks!
is it me or did the toms sound better before the eq?
Where is the Wurst mic from Moses Schneider?
In the 80s we never knew kick drums had a click, especially 808s
Please build panels out of insulation wool instead of using foam panels. Much more effective down to the lower frequencies. Even a stack of towels beats "acoustic foam". A good test is to simple place the insulation up to your ear and listening to the damping effect. A good fix to get rid of annoying small room resonances with drums is a multi-band expander.
You obviously missed the part of the video where they explained that there are mineral wool panels on the walls and the foam was on the ceiling to reduce high frequency reflections.
Very helpful video
For low ceiling should I just put acoustic treatment over the drum kit on the ceiling only or cover even more of the ceiling in acoustic foam?
The ceiling
I am totally confused because everything you’re saying seems very counterintuitive… When you don’t have a lot of space to record the drums why would I want to put foam and things that are going to deaden the sound even more? Isn’t the whole point of getting a good sound having a nice and big drum room that lets the drums have room to breathe?
you end up with real low frequency build up in the corners of your room and your kit will sound like its in a rubbish tin with all the mid frequency reflections. Better off having as little as pos and eqingn instead
Small rooms = lots of low mid frequencies bouncing back very quickly into your mics.even the close mics despite what Paul said. They’ll ruin a drum sound as with no appreciable/useable reverb they’re just a pain.
Deaden the room ( evenly.. not just the HF) and re create the reverb with outboard fx/plug-ins.
great video guys!!
Reflecting on reflections
Accepting the limitations of your space and developing a love for your own unique recorded sound is the biggest mental hurdle. If you compare your recordings with Abbey Road, you'll never be happy!
Oh, and don't forget a Wurst (look up Moses Schneider) and get yourself a decent drummer - much more important than mic placement!
Any drum set is fine. You need a good pair of heads in each piece and good cymbals for the type of music you’re playing.
Finally actually helpful advice
Can I possibly do a modified Glyn Johns or Decca Tree to record in a decent size bedroom?
I’m brand new to recording/mixing and all that and not even 2 years into my drum kit, but I was able to get a few cardioid mics as a rebate and currently have 2 setup as a spaced pair (nothing is plugged into anything yet, just the stands and mics), I originally wanted to be able to get the actual Decca Tree layout which is the 2 spaced overheads about 2 meters apart and then a third is placed in the middle about 1.5 meters away to create a triangle.
Now, I don’t have the room to really space my overheads over the kit 2 meters because the left side of my kit goes up to a wall, so I’m mainly wondering, am I able to scale down the Decca Tree, still keep a 2:1.5 ratio for mic spacing, can I make like a mini Decca Tree?
Or am I better of just using them as standard condensed spaced overheads and use the third as a mono or just kinda down low in front of the kit to pick up a lot of the bass, but also some of the resonance the overheads aren’t (cause I’m just starting out) because I don’t yet have a proper bass mic, such as a a sennheiser e602 or e902 or the Shure Beta 91A are all spectacular, but I’m only just getting into mic’ing and mixing, so I’d rather take it a bit slower and not spend hundred upon hundreds yet.
Any advice is appreciated.
Is that a real balafon on the wall.
What software do u guys uses. Is it logic, just curious as I’m getting into it and wanted to try it.
In this video they are using logic. I suggest taking a look at reaper too, logic is nice for writing songs but mixing and editing are nicer in pro tools and reaper (YMMV) plus reaper is only 60 euro. I use a combination of pro tools, reaper, and logic depending on what task I'm using it for.
Logic for recording ableton for programming/drawing notes. Logic ain’t too bad for mixing especially starting out
Jolly good advice old chums!
escelent video, although i disagree about moving drums. ofcoarse a drummer has to be carefull but if everything is all too close together bleed starts to become an issue especially with drummers who like to smash cymbals.
were not talking moving stuff miles away just a few inches. dependant on style of music though as sometimes you may want to bleed so it sounds more organic. If your mixing metal, this is a must! Having hihats right next to the snare is a disaster, and usually the drummer becomes inconsistant and cant hit the snare hard enough particularly in faster beats.
its important for engineers and musicians to work together to get the best results for the record. You dont need to say you need to move that, discuss say such and such may sound better if theres a bit more space or thats a bit higher. if its detrimental to your performance well move it back.
On your overhead mics are there laser sights for aiming the capsule?
best explanation would be to use best fitting mics with best fitting positions and no eq is than needed!
what are the drum sizes
15:00
"or a tape measure if you can afford one"
I like how he is mouthing along while he has the tape measure.
I'm doing electronic music, but would like to implement some acoustic instruments in the far future. I'm gonna record one drum in at a time after I've recorded my other electronic sounds, which would include the kick and claps in this scenario. What mics would anyone recommend for a snare, hat, ride, hand drums and shakers? :)
Any good quality small diaphragm condenser should do the job. If you’re not wanting to spend too much, something like a Rode NT3/AKG C1000 should be fine
'Drums played like a true guitarist' :)
p.s. when you were addressing phase, Auto-Align works a treat!
Is it true that there's a different drum tuning for every different genre?
Yes definitely. Rock and jazz will have vastly different tuning.