Recording Drums at Sunset Sound (Studio 1) - Warren Huart: Produce Like A Pro
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Hi Friends! In this video I'm recording a very particular Drum sound at Studio One at Sunset Sound. We were going for a classic Motown/Stax and Atlantic sound for these tracks, no hole in the kick, toms with little sustain and cymbals with a lot of personality vs a splashy wash! Which studio would you like to see us record at next? Let me know below! Be sure to check out the Cheap vs Expensive Drum recording Video here:- th-cam.com/video/EMLZl52az6g/w-d-xo.htmlm24s
Electrical Audio in Chicago. Steve albini. Or Trident studio in California, Juan Urtega. Juan mostly does death metal bands, he did do a Ted Nugent album. But he does outstanding work.
@MorbidManMusic +1 for that! Would be hugely interesting to see how the pros get on in our makeshift studios. Would definitely learn a ton from that!
@@blakecurtis7809 +1 for a Steve & Warren summit at Electrical Audio. Pack some black coveralls Warren ;-)
I'd like to see you record in my tiny home studio, it's got some real challenges like the lack of any sort of floor space and sensitive neighbours!!
MY STUDIO WARREN AHAHA
That snare sounds so damn great through the 47's capturing the high room.
Big River Records thanks ever so much my friend! You Rock!
The 67 on the wall sounded incredible!! Was not expecting that at all!
Hi ihave2feet thanks my friend!
The complete breakdown including real time isolation of mics and boosts so that we can see/hear is such a gift! Thank you SO MUCH for ALL of your content @Warren Huart The knowledge and experience that you share with us is very appreciated! :)
Newsky79 that’s very kind of you! This is exactly why I do this my friend!
This is a REALLY good breakdown, especially allowing us to hear the various mics in isolation as you go around the kit. Thanks!
Many thanks Adam!!!
I agree Adam !!
5:49
- What size it is?
- Twenny
- so Twenty
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My gosh -- quality -- that room sounds amazing.
When you fired up the mono talk-back mic it sounded like an old Motown recording all by itself. What an amazing room and assortment of gear. Thanks for sharing! Your channel rocks even when you're off on vacation.
Wow! Thanks ever so much! I Really appreciate it! Yes, lovely to be on holiday!!
Reminded me a bit of Robert Plant's Manic Nirvana. Man I love the sound of that record. SO good.
I thought exactly the same: that talkback was perfect all by itself for that sound.
Another fantastic and ridiculously helpful video Warren. Honestly, I've learned so much from you you practically produced our last album! Please never stop doing you.
Can confirm, am in band
Thanks Murica! That's great to hear! This is why we do what we do! You rock my friend!
Truth. Blessed to have u on TH-cam
@@Producelikeapro thanks so much!
Same
That 67 room mic has the vintage vibe in spades!
J.P. Winter Sichelschmidt thanks ever so much my friend!
My favorite type of videos from @Produce Like A Pro
I know it's not the exact same thing because it's plugins but I start with Waves 550As on each drum as if they're "tracked" with them.
Hi Andrew Arbogast that’s fantastic to hear my friend! Glad to be able to help!
as a keen hobbyist, making pretty awful tunes using PC based tools like "Reason" with a novation keyboard, I simply LOVE these videos from Warren, super informative, super clear to understand and brilliantly produced, also great hearing pro's converse in the true language of the pro studio.......brilliant vid and once again thank you..
I can't wait for the Sunset Sound drum multisamples you've announced.
Yes! Coming soon my friend!
I Love API550's for mixing. They just makes you work fast , straight to the point , and no frequency fuckarounditis syndrome. LOL
Haha I hear you Isaac!
Been a Pro Engineer for a long time but this is lovely to hear. Great studio and of course a marvellous engineer.Thanks.
Thanks ever so much my friend!!
When I was a working engineer, the drums were always my favorite thing to record. I recorded alot of metal/hard rock, and the setup I developed for the kick drum was- 1. No outer head on the kick drum. 2. A sandbag placed inside the kick with a Shure PZM mic sitting on the sandbag. 3. An AKG D 112 or Senn MD421 or Shure Sm7A inside pointed at the beater. 4. A condenser mic about two feet in front of where the outer head would be. 5. A tunnel made from packing blankets covering the kick and all mics on the kick. With a setup like that, I would get a super fat and isolated sound every time.
Totally agree on the no resonator. For metal it makes the kick controllable and less boomy. Less gating necessary. And a fuck ton of parrallel compression 😁
Something I would like to see discussed is the use of tape on cymbals. You see it all the time in videos but people rarely discuss in any sort of detail. Maybe for a future video? Cheers.
Gribb 59 absolutely my friend!
I love the idea of being able to just quickly and tactilely get so much done. Thanks Warren'
Audrey Sims thanks my friend!!
Between you, Beato, and Neely I’m learning so much. It’s like one on one courses with the best professors on TH-cam. Thank you for all your hard work.
Hi Sam Gunn wow! Thanks ever so much my friend! I really appreciate it!!
Who's Neely? Sounds like something I want to check out too :)
In a session like this, do you record all the settings of the control room gear on paper so you can recall it? What would be really interesting for some of your audience is to see a diagram or a recall sheet of your setup.
There are some small kicks, like Khruangbin uses (really small ones) and they have such a great tight and boomy bottom end. I love the sound of those kickdrums.
Thanks for sharing!! I appreciate your insight!
what a big booming sound you got from the cute lil kick!!
Hi ADRIAN WAGNER haha exactly!
$40 vintage Japanese kick drum, with budget/student lugs (6). Sounded amazing. Love it.
I love the overhead only sound of that kit, it's so lively. I'd just roll that way :)
Yes! Great overheads in that amazing room, with a great drummer who plays evenly!
Great breakdown Warren, thank you. This drum kit in this room sounds awesome.
Indeed Marc! You're very welcome!
This is brilliant! Having a video that you can hear each drum individually in realtime is so helpful...Thanks mate :) x
gagsmedia so glad to be able to help my friend!!
Cool Warren, hope you're well dude. Keep the passion! DC
Thanks ever so much David!!
Love Sunset Sound, always learning something new!
It's such an amazing studio John!
Matt is one of the coolest people in the world. Plus he's an amazing drummer
Brilliant, got my old engineer juices flowing. Thanks for sharing and from such a legendary studio too. Lovely to see the old AMS reverb and delay boxes in the racks as well. 🙌
Nothing like a clean and organized recording studio 👌🏽
Wow. That snare was popping with the high room mics.
Thanks Clay! You Rock!!
Did anyone else notice the irony of a million dollar studio and a $70 kick drum purchased on Craig's list? Reminds me of Eddie Van Halen's guitar used on the first Van Halen album (also recorded at this same studio) was something under $200.
Hi Tim, thanks for your comment! Instruments have never had to be expensive to be great! The 'Stairway To Heaven' Acoustic, Danelectro, Silvertone, Harmony, 70's Yamaha Acoustics, some of the best cymbals with tons of character are the cheap Paiste Cymbals from 70's and early 80's, the list is endless! Heck one of most famous mics ever of course is the AKG D19, The Beatle mic, that was AKG's base level dynamic! One of the Basses that we used that day was made of plastic and was $40 when new!
@@Producelikeapro Yes,, the Danelectro (played one of those in a music store a few years back) had more character than any guitar I've ever played. The sales guy knew this and thought I might like it. It looked so cheap with that metal round bar for a pickup.
Yes, indeed@@TimKaseyMythHealer! Most of my favourite instruments are fairly inexpensive or home made! Think the 'Red Special' Brian May's guitar for instance!
@@Producelikeapro Ding! First Queen reference on this video! Do I win a prize for finding it first?
jppagetoo haha a big pat in the back! Haha
Had a slight time warp.......for a moment I thought that was a young Levon Helm sitting behind the kit
Marc Clement wow! That would be amazing!
I am very sure the drummer would be very pleased to hear that comparison!
Very well broken down and great explanation on how you got the drum sound! So fun seeing Sunset room 1! Good stuff Warren. Thanks!
I love all of your videos ! But this one by far one of your best videos! The hands on approach will really appeal to everyone ! Hint hint
Wow! Thank you ever so much Glenn!
Great, great information that connects drum part to microphone choice to location to EQ. BTW, I was blown away by the sound of the high room mics. I was drooling all over my screen :-). Thank you Warren!
love these.... i so would love to have been there to hear you guys change out drum sounds per song and why and the reasons ...great work as always guys
Marvellous idea Kip!!
Slumming it again Warren, I don't know how you work in such poor conditions!! Great video btw!
haha Julian!
That was awesome. Thank you for this!
Flipping brilliant!!!!
Thanks my friend!!
Thanks for your vídeos. They inspired me. Cheers from Brasil.
Your videos are amazing by the way!
love all these video's! Thank you Sir!
Thanks Mike!
When Warren is really pissed off with you, you'll hear him saying "You're like 400 Hz to me!" :)
That room sounds gorgeous!
I agree Charles! Amazing Studio!!
Really interesting video and a great breakdown and isolation of each mic set. Those high room mics sounded incredible.
I agree !!
Thanks for this terrific breakdown Warren! This will be a big help for my next live drum session!
Thanks ever son much Dave! You Rock!!
Thanks this was great!!
Amazing as always!!!
Thanks ever so much Mauro!!
Awesome video! Love hearing those overheads and rooms isolated. There is something special about the api 550s. I only use plugin versions but a little mid scoop, top and bottom boost just sounds so good.
Great up and personal session, thanks dude.
Vance Dylan you’re very welcome!!
I used the hi-hat doublemiking trick the other day in my studio I really really love the sound
Great insight Warren, thank you!
Thanks ever so much Marty!!
what an amazing video, not just information wise but insight wise, i don't quite know how to put my finger on it but you do vids sometimes that slot perfect puzzle pieces into my knowledge and feel library, being knackered after a long days work its great to feel inspired and re energised when it all just makes a bit more sense!! thank you
TheLeon1032 wow! That made my day my friend! Thanks ever so much!
So good!
Hi Daniel Duskin thanks ever so much!
Warren...this is freaking awesome. thank you. I now need to upgrade from my 8 channel interface...I needed a good reason to do that, and here it is
haha!
This is a great video - thank you for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks very very much Warren for this golden video!!! I hope to record in the future there too (maybe with you and David, I keep that open..;) ) I feel blessed that I could record in the famous Wisseloord Studio 1, Hilversum, The Netherlands in my mid twenties with Epica... I really enjoyed the crew/studio-environment there too.. In the morning they even tuned my drumkit, that kind of professionalism and higher standards and working TOGETHER for the bigger picture is what I love man!!! Later I worked as a sessiondrummer with Hot club de Nashville ( Dave Pomeroy/Pat Bergeson , who worked with Vinnie too...) Moral of the story is: They all were very friendly, passionate, talented, blessed and no ego... My deepest respect for anybody!!! (I hate bragging and jealousy, its a waste of time..) And this awesome PLAP Academy too!!! Let, s help eachother the best we can!!! :) :) Have a good holiday Warren!!!!
AWESOME!!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!
Warren, love these videos! Great to see techniques that people can perhaps apply to their home studios to improve their skills! Thanks a million!
Thanks ever so much Roy!!
@@Producelikeapro Nae probs, it's the truth haha! I've used various of these golden nuggets of info myself!
Those micstands are so cool
I really enjoyed how you soloed the various mics and let the drummer play.
Thanks ever so much
57 n 58 always great
There is some magic with those API EQs when boosted at higher frequencies. They seem to just create air out of nothing. Love them for that on bass.
thank you Warren
You're welcome Dan! Thanks for watching!
Hi Warren. I would love to thank you for such a high quality content and your passion to this art called music. I wanted to ask If there will be episode with Lenny Kravitz. That would be great to see his equipment and outstanding amount of memorabilia and also the passion and unique style:)) all the best
Daniel
That talkback mic sounds great on it’s own!
Enjoyed watching this video! Yes it would be interesting to see you do a video using old cheap microphones and minimal microphone setup ,etc. I love the Motown and James Brown ( early 60s / early 70s) recording sounds, it would be interesting to see how you can reproduce those sounds ! Thanks for the inspiration Warren, good job !
holy shnizzle im looking forward to this!!
TheLeon1032 haha thanks
Great video as always. Would love that desk in my basement!
We ALL would!
@@darlenesheffield9835 I heard it's PLAPs next giveaway.
Wow, thank u!
You're very welcome Kriss! Thanks for watching!
How to mix drums
step one: Cut 400hz
Niklas Airaksinen pretty good start to remove the low mids! Typically I cut 350 in the actual mix! However 400 as a fixed point on the @sunsetsoundrecorders console is a great start!
Low mids in my mixes is the thing i started to focus on more about one year ago becouse of your videos
That was my take away too, other than when recording place mics all over your house and possibly put one in your neighbours backyard, get the real feel of the neighbourhood in your mix.
@@neilregan2488 i need to try this now. Thanks
The 67S sounded amazing on the overheads !
Love those mics!! Truly amazing!
That kick sounds great in that room.
parnelli jones thanks ever so much my friend!!
It really does. I *LOVE* that it's a cheap clone bought for peanuts on Craigslist. For one, it shows what you can do with skill and good tuning. Second, it's just inspiring knowing that there are professionals out there holding on to the "if it sounds good, it IS good" philosophy, rather than getting wrapped up in pretense.
Must admit, seeing you in action in that live room out of that control room totally changed the effect of my initial bias. You mixed down your image.
That kick drum miking is fierce. I think that (what I believe to be Ambassador Fiberskin) no hole worked well to my (I know you r ears find it plastic) Yamaha HS7s, like a kick ass.
the tuning of that immaculate response Fiberskin being lower ( what I believe lack to a lot of tom tuning these days) resonate over the kick tone and the bleed to everything else. This is to be cataloged for further use. No muffling? Even the snare harmonics blend in and are great .
The zilds constantinople , mate are multi character! A ride and a medium ride of those would do any gig, with those thousand tones.
And the irish Jameson under my words may explain me admitting I totally changed my mind about you. Well done. You can rest assured of a job well done, mate.
You are insanely helpful to amateur and semi-professional engineers. I am baffled by every new video you make. Thank you so much!
Quick question; Can you talk more about how professional studios do routing? For example, I always see mixers with musicians in your videos at pro studios, which are I assume for headphone mixes. Not necessarily this sort of routing but I think a general video about pro studio/console routing might be helpful for a lot of people.
Also is that a Cloud CL-2 I see with the Coles :P Wonderful work as always. Thank you so much!
Wow! Thank you for the kind words Yigit!
That drum sound is amazing. I especially love the sound of the cymbals, the snare and the floor mics, literally throwing some Neumanns on the floor. One question: What made you print the EQ? I've never seen you at Sunset Sound printing the 550As before. Thanks for answering and sharing! You rock!
Wow, the amount of money recording those drums is insane! Sounds amazing. That kick is huge.
I was surprised at how much tome/ping the snare had from the top mic, but blended all together it masked well.
Hi vutall thanks for your comment! I thought about the money aspect and then realised something very important and powerful! This studio has been around since the late 50’s and these mics are the same mics they have had for years! So for value for money I can’t imagine anything better!
We live in a time of empowerment for amateur musicians, and it's nice to know you can squeeze a good sound out of a budget setup, but c'mon. If you have a $1M mic locker and racks of vintage gear, are ya really going to pull out the Shure PGs? nawwww... :-) It may only be 20% better than a rig 1/10th the cost, but if you can, you should, right?
Fantastic video ! Thanks Warren for all. It's really amazing to see all your settings. I'm going to try this the next time I record the drum of my boyfriend 😜
Thanks Stephanie! Please do! Let me know how it goes!
My favorite big studios in the world, Sunset Sound, if you follow the podcasts they make are mind-boggling, what is made there is enormous, back in the day. And I'm happy Paul keeps it open. A big giant left us the Capitol studio's, that's sad. Back then these studios were open 24/24 can you imagine that? And still these API consoles, I'm in love :) errr I can't believe they have a Behringer 8024 in there, still. With the AES/ EBU option they sound decent, but those analog converters are sssssssssssssss so not usable. I have still a 9024 and a 8024, but they are used to filling up rack space.
the kick sounds larger than life, holy shit! 😵😵🥴🥴
Haha thanks ever so much
Other than the Frey, what other drum tracking records you’ve track I can listen to on iTunes.? Love your work. I’ve watched your drum sessions over and over..! I’m glad you uploaded this one. Much appreciated brother. Cheers from Tampa, Florida.
$$ . . . YOU ~ ROCK ! !
Neat trick, different hat cymbals.... :)
A Mazing!!
Thanks ever so much!
And Mutt, great!
Just brilliant! I know you don't work in home studios but would you consider doing a budget drum home studio video to show what you would do in that situation. Dealing with room acoustics and dampening as well to get a sound you would find acceptable. It's a long shot but I'm all outta Neumanns and my Coles is in the shop too.
His style of playing reminds me of steve jordan, great drummer and drumsound, you both in your own special way..!!! (ow, thats funny, now I hear on the vid his steve jordan snare signature...coincidence..)hahaha...Great work guys!!
Warren, how on hell do you have time for all this! Really appreciate it.
Rolling Tones aw shucks! Because I love being able to help!
ohhh wow. I have 3 42's and I got rid on a floor tom I might try one on bottom of the rack tom to try to cancel some of the cymbals bleed out
yayy!!!! the context of letting us hear the mix of mics whilst hearing the seperate drums being hit is so vital, is tuning a problem? no all sounds good through the mics, great context!! bloody neumann tho!!
Hi TheLeon1032 thanks my friend! I’m so glad to be able to help!
When setting the under snare mic, are you miking the snares or the head? Are you keeping the bottom mic the same distance to the batter head as the top mic or equidistant to the bottom head as the top mic is to the batter head, and then reversing phase?
Is the air pressure from the kick a threat to the Coles 4038? I use a long ribbon Cascade mic in a similar position but always put a pop filter in front of it out of concern for the ribbon.
It's quite a long way away so not much of an issue for SPL, plus I've found the Coles never to have an issue with distortion, at least not the few hundred times I've personally used them! haha I'm sure there's an expert who will tell me I'm wrong though!
Hi Warren, great videos btw. They've been super helpful & they're always thorough which is amazing. These are the best videos for learning drum micing. I was wondering if you have ever thought of going over drum sounds from specific acts/ artists?
I've watched so many drum micing/ recording vids of yours that I feel like I have a good idea of what the kit is going to have on it & what it will sound like at the end. It would be great to hear an experts advice for obtaining other drum sounds though. For example would be Tame Impala, as far as I understand its a super simple set up as far as mics. I've seen some people get pretty close to his sound but id love to see if you could do any better. Obviously this is just a suggestion of something id personally like to see but I think theres a lot to be learned by us & you if you gave it a shot.
Thanks again for the great content!
Warren you went over the EQ and compression settings and just briefly mentioned the Sunset Sound mic pre's.... I'm curious about how you set your gain stage(s) and how that might differ based on what pre you have?
I liked everything save for the fact that the positioning favoured the snare in the middle and the kick a little offset to the left. I generally prefer to set an axis where the kick and snare are 'aligned' in the middle. Just a personal preference.
Great video!
A question, is the bass drum (kick) set-up backwards on purpose, if so why?
How exact do you have to measure the Overheads to the Snare? Does it have to be exactly the same distance or are a few centimeters no problem? And what do you use to measure the distance? Thanks for your videos Warren, they help a lot!
Have you ever done a video of hardware compression?
How about using a boundary mic inside the kick? My other teacher at university uses a Shure Beta 91 as well as regular mica and a subkick for his kick sound.