I just realized that the Texans, Browns, Jets, and Lions are all going to be top 10 here this year. Probably the 4 worst franchises since I’ve been into football, and they are all looking pretty good at the same time. Pretty cool!
Makes you wonder what’s in store for the Patriots and Panthers. I don’t know if the commanders can make the comeback because Dan Quinn has already shown us his peak IMO, but the general quality of the new NFL generation is insane
@@alexyoumans9431 the Cardinals have been bad on average over their existence, but I’ve watched them play in a Super Bowl in my lifetime. You’ve got a point about the Raiders, though they had a really good run right before I really started paying attention to the league. I should have said 4 OF the worst franchises, maybe. My point is that it’s cool to see those 4 franchises looking good at once after seeing them largely suck since I’ve been watching football 👍🏻
Bouta start my sophmore year, loved putting his shit on in the bg while doing work last year, strikes that balance of being interesting and thought provoking without being too much or a distraction
For your tiebreakers WR and RB should definitely be last. They have the highest ratings across the board. A 90 OVR CB is far rarer in his rankings than a 90 WR
@@wardog211or maybe we’re generally overrating the likes of rb’s and wr’s because the way they impact a game is much more evident through stats than the likes of linebackers and safeties who are generally rated much lower. I don’t see any reason why linebackers should have so much of a lower talent level than receivers but I do see a reason why we might be judging each positions talent incorrectly.
@@wardog211 my exact point. If there are only 3 90+ CB’s but 6-7 90+ WR’s, the CB’s are more valuable. Value is inseparable from rarity. The more rare something is, the higher its value. It’s why water isn’t more valuable than a diamond despite having infinitely more uses.
Two things: 1 Schwartz did win assistant coach of the year 2: Schwartz had taken a leave of absence from coaching due to health issues which is why he was available and had been an advisor to Tennessee rather than a DC
This was awesome! I'm a huge Browns fan and our team rarely gets coverage outside of local reporters and analysts, and when they do get national coverage, it's usually pretty bad. This, however, was refreshing hearing an outside voice talk about the positives of this team!
@@dre2578 I'm honestly astonished the Jets are this high, even the Dolphins should have been ranked by now. First ratings by TFG I've disagreed with heavily in a long time.
I’m very high on the Browns as well. I know the playoff game leaves a sour taste in people’s mouths but the Browns when healthy are a damn good football team. I’m a little concerned about the lack of weapons on offense but defensively they should be elite again
As a browns fan I for sure agree with you on Stefanskis criticism of his passing game. From watching the games as a casual it always seems like we can never get guys open in space, or hit anyone in stride with rac opportunity.
@@antonioiniguez1615you don't change massage therapists 20+ times in a summer cause you didn't do anything. Also you just don't have 20+ women saying you raped them cause you didn't do anything be real
As a Browns fan this deep dive pretty much sums up my feelings perfectly. The part about Ford was spot on and it's why the run game was so inconsistent after Chubb went down
My hot take is the Jerry Jeudy genre of receivers (bad hands amazing routes) are all basically built in a lab to play soccer and would probably make America an elite soccer nation, had they grown up with that instead
Jerry Jeudy having "bad hands" is a myth. He has one of the lowest drop rates in the NFL. He's dropped 18 passes in his 4-year career and 6 of those were in one game when he was a rookie. That means he's dropped 12 passes in his other 56 games.
TFG Quarterback rankings 1. Patrick Mahomes 2. Josh Allen 5. Justin Herbert 6. Matthew Stafford 8. Trevor Lawrence 9. Dak Prescott 11. CJ Stroud 12. Kyler Murray 13. Jordan Love 15. Kirk Cousins 18. Geno Smith 19. Russell Wilson 20. Caleb Williams 21. Derek Carr 22. Baker Mayfield 23. Daniel Jones 24. Deshaun Watson 25. Bryce Young 26. Anthony Richardson 27. Jacoby Brissett/Drake Maye 28. Will Levis 29. Bo Nix 30. Gardner Minshew 31. Jayden Daniels 32. Sam Darnold
@@Kangaroo-BobSome folks really care about rushing ability, I don't know what to tell ya. I'd put them around equal level, personally - Hurts looked better 2 years ago than Tua ever has (and is slightly less injury prone) but he's also got some serious flaws to his game and boy did they show up last year.
This might come across as hating (and it's not intended to be, because I love your content and watch all of these breakdowns), but one area where you might benefit from further reflection is how you tend to default with HCs to talking about "their side of the ball" a lot. The HC's main job is pulling together a group of men in one uniform direction and 75% of the role (in my opinion) has nothing to do with playcalling or 'their side of the ball'.. So, when you rank guys like Stefanski and McDermott (whose teams have won consistently) as lowly as you do, I think you're focussing too much on their playcalling, and showing insufficient deference to the team's overall win record, which is their key objective as head coaches. Hiring and managing good staff under them. Keeping the organisation stable. Culture. All that important stuff. That's not to discredit the points you make about Defensive HCs, because it's true that a revolving door at OC is not ideal. And maybe Josh Allen does carry McDermott to an extent. But just generally, I think you should give more credit to the jobs HCs actually do as HCs in your rankings. And from that perspective, it's hard not to be impressed by what Stefanski achieved last year with a collection of frankly ludicrous QBs starting for large portions of the year.
Stefanski isn't a bottom 15 coach that's a garbage take imo. And I'm not casual I watch almost every game of every team. He's like the 11th best coach I don't think he's like a amazing god tier coach but marcus pass scheme looking pretty or not dude has multple double digit wins with rosters decimated by injuries. We've had talented teams before and couldn't do that why does passing scheme matter so much? Whatever happened to leadership managing stars. You said yourself this is a talented roster yet almost no ego amongst this team.
45:50 I think all we can do is hope Nick Chubb returns to form. He's already been deadlifting like 600 pounds again, and he doesn't have a brace on, so I'm hopeful he returns by week 4 off the PuP list but still surprised on it if he looks ready to go.
He can't play in Week 4. The earliest he could return is Week 5. I'd rather see him come back after the bye. He could get some carries in Week 11 vs. the Saints, and get an increasing workload down the stretch.
I find them similar to the Seahawks. A lot of talent but one or two extremely crucial positions will be the deciding factor on a very scary and respectable team
Unless I'm forgetting someone, there hasn't been a unit in the NFL that earned a nickname since the Chiefs' receivers in 2018/2019 were called "Legion of Zoom", though I'm not sure that name ever got off the ground.
Imo when it came to coach of the year I thought stefanski deserved it because of the amount of injuries that this team faced last year and still pulling off a 10 win record and a playoff birth that I believe is good coaching I don’t think he’s one of the best in the business but with most coaches I don’t see what happened with the browns happening with other teams
As a browns fan who is very critical of my own team. I think stefanski is like the 15tg best coach itl. I like the run game coaching a ton qnd think we are extremely multiple and he has a ton to do with that. I also think he is a extrenely good culture guy, but for a guy whom is supposed to be that big offensive hire i think he draws up the most bland passing concepts possible and is certainly not the QB guru hes supposed to be
Love the videos dude. The amount of work you've put in and continue to put in to this stuff is incredible. That said the Texans are better than the Browns.
A little higher on the browns than I had them but I understand the reasoning. Browns just feel like a team that can beat literally anybody but can also lose to anybody if their offense isn’t performing
@kunalpatel1147 I could stomach Bengals over Ravens because of our O line concerns and the general fear that our defense regresses with Mike Mack gone. But Bengals over Lions? 9ers? No, can't agree with that.
Kevin Stefanski is literally the only reason the browns have won games in the last few years, ranking him is 21 criminally bad and im saying this as a browns fan that lived through 2016
How u not know the Orange Crush Defense? Like it wasnt like a 1 year stretch. They even played in a SB with Craig Morten at QB. Like they beat the defending champion Raiders and Pittsburgh innthe 77' playoffs. They had 3 great LBs. One just got in the HOF, the other probably wont make it and I know you know who Tom Jackson is. The D-line even had Alzado and Tombstone.
Been saying this is arguably the best roster in the league for years now, if Deshaun can just stay healthy and play not atrociously again I mean sky is the limit. They could win division and beat the chiefs. Hell they almost beat the chiefs in playoffs on the road with a worse roster and Baker Mayfield when Chiefs still had Tyreek… If Deshaun is healthy and catches fire they are at least a top 3 AFC team and that’s if Ravens and Jets hit their ceiling aswell. Not tryna ignore the Dolphins and Chiefs but again, if Deshaun somehow returns to who he was as a player and the team hits their ceiling I truly believe peak ravens and jets are the only ones that could stop them from reaching the Super Bowl. All 3 have the highest ceiling in AFC but could bust, it’s gonna be a super interesting season man we shall see who is real. Prayers for Chubbs man
I’m biased as the Browns are my team and I’m satisfied with this rank. However I think you’re way too low on MJ Emerson. He’s a borderline top 10-15?cb
You know he’s a free agent right? Even if you wanted to debate his impact at this stage in his career he isn’t on a roster, let alone the Browns, so it’s a moot point?
@@ThatFranchiseGuy I know this is a day old but can you really dive into your thoughts on this during the jets deep dive? I think it's a bit simplistic to think any QB, even as good and experienced as Rodgers, can "simply be the OC". This wasn't the case in GB when he had a legit playcaller in Lafleur. Look at Brady in his final year. Leftwich took over playcalling, and it was a disaster. Brady is even more experienced then Rodgers, yet he couldn't "call his own offense". Because it's a feasible expectation game to game. Especially in the playoffs, on the road, against teams like Buffalo and KC.
Top 5 QB, better HC than Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Jets and debatably the dolphins. They get a lot out of whoever they're playing on the o line, that's the benefit of good coaching. Ok group of weapons in the passing game. Flowers, Andrews and Likely. Derrick Henry. All-pros at every level of their defense. Consistently great coaching in that regard as well. Great special teams. I don't see how they can be lower than 5.
Ravens should have already left, they lost: Clowney, OBJ, Zeitler, John Simpson, Patrick Queen, Geno Stone, Gus Edwards, Duvernay and the DC. Crazy how this team is overrated just because they played well in 2023
I am way higher on Stefanski than you as a Browns Fan. If he gets better in the pass game with Dorsey he can be great. But there are many Browns fans that are on the other side.
Browns die hard fans have been screaming for Stefanski to give up play calling! He would probably get better at game management if he would! I think your HC rank is fair! DC Schwartz is the greatest non-player asset in the NFL!!
@@ThatFranchiseGuy There is no way of knowing. He hasn't played more than 6 games in a row since 2020. 2022 was a rust year. New team. New system. Not much practice time. 2023 was an injury year. He played 2-1/2 healthy games out of 6. He had no continuity. The stats really mean nothing: Game 1 was played in a monsoon. Look up Joe Burrow's stats for that game. Game 2 Watson played poorly, but on the Pick-6 he hit the receiver right in the hands who tipped it to a DB. That was the difference in the game. Game 3 he completed 82% of his passes and had a passer rating of 123. Games 4 & 5 out. Game 6 tried to play hurt. Couldn't. Game 7 out. Game 8 he completed 63% of his passes and had a passer rating of 107. Game 9 he looked like Game 2 Watson in the first half and Game 3 Watson in the second. If Watson gets to play 15-16 healthy games, I suspect he'll be a lot more like Game 3 and 8 Watson than Game 2 Watson.
Posted an hour ago. Video is a little under 2 hours. People questioning your ranking while it's physically IMPOSSIBLE for ANYONE to have watched the full video lmao. Browns are #9. Cope.
The Cleveland Browns have done everything right as a team...except when it comes to QB, and that's why the football gods punish them. Trade for the POS Deshaun Watson and give him a FULLY GUARANTEED deal? Strip him of all his talent and make him a husk of his former self. Even with how great this defense is, I think it's gonna take A LOT for them to make the playoffs again. I think the floor is 8-9 and the ceiling is 10-7
Not really. Why is it that when the corpse of the browns roster beat the injured Texans week 16, everyone said “you beat an injured Texans team, you should win” but when the Texans got healthy and beat the injured browns, it’s “the Texans are just better than the browns”
@christiancorley4309 they both had the most amount of injuries in the NFL it was all about who wanted it more and the texans had the upper hand even without our starters & also do you believe DeShawn watson is ganna have a comeback this year ?
Not really the Texans played an injured Browns team so a lot of people are overreacting to that. But this series assumes that all the teams are healthy
@@spartan_a1176 lol, the Texans were able to play most if not all of their best players. Cleveland had UDFA’s and emergency free agent signings having to start
*9:00** THANK YOU!* *As a Browns fan myself, I keep saying that Stefanksi is the most OVERRATED HC in the NFL. He gets pedestalized for doing the BARE MINIMUM with an extremely loaded roater.*
The Browns really got robbed on the Watson trade ! Glad he’s not here, going thru that fiasco and struggling for a few years was worth drafting Stroud and a bright future ! Beating the Browns in the playoffs was extra special 😂
It's not about if Watson did or not. It's also not excusing the behavior he or others did (your example Big Ben) but you dont give any benefit of the doubt or treat them as humans. The things they did were to humans but it doesnt fell right to not understand people learn or change. I get not liking the guy but many of these guys do their punishment and learn from. Will see with Watson and I get the 2 cases arent settled so its not completely over and resolved but your video is how good the football player and I get bringing it up but its been a few years so to talk about it as much as his play seems like you have a vandeta and you ignore other behavior that other players do. You pick and choose and that is wrong.
I just realized that the Texans, Browns, Jets, and Lions are all going to be top 10 here this year. Probably the 4 worst franchises since I’ve been into football, and they are all looking pretty good at the same time. Pretty cool!
Makes you wonder what’s in store for the Patriots and Panthers. I don’t know if the commanders can make the comeback because Dan Quinn has already shown us his peak IMO, but the general quality of the new NFL generation is insane
Texans are definetly not as bad a franchise as the cardinals or raiders it was just a bad few years
@@alexyoumans9431 the Cardinals have been bad on average over their existence, but I’ve watched them play in a Super Bowl in my lifetime. You’ve got a point about the Raiders, though they had a really good run right before I really started paying attention to the league. I should have said 4 OF the worst franchises, maybe. My point is that it’s cool to see those 4 franchises looking good at once after seeing them largely suck since I’ve been watching football 👍🏻
these episodes are getting me through my first few weeks of college. appreciate it marcus
Bouta start my sophmore year, loved putting his shit on in the bg while doing work last year, strikes that balance of being interesting and thought provoking without being too much or a distraction
Good luck to you both! Glad you're enjoying!
TFG's top 53 players in the series so far.
*1. Myles Garrett (99)*
2. Justin Jefferson (99)
3. Micah Parsons (97)
4. T.J. Watt (96)
5. Max Crosby (95)
6. Ceedee Lamb (95)
7. Dexter Lawrence (95)
8. Jessie Bates (95)
9. Pat Surtain (94)
10. Josh Allen (92)
11. Tristan Wirfs (91)
12. Devonte Adams (91)
13. Josh Hines-Allen (90)
14. Jaire Alexander (90)
15. Chris Lindstrom (90)
16. Antoine Winfield (90)
17. Andrew Thomas (89)
18. Laremy Tunsil (89)
19. DJ Moore (89)
20. Terry McLaurin (89)
21. Danielle Hunter (88)
22. Keenan Allen (88)
23. Derrick Brown (88)
24. Quenton Nelson (88)
25. Minkah Fitzpatrick (88)
26. Jonathan Taylor (88)
27. Justin Herbert (87)
28. Mathew Stafford (87)
29. Khalil Mack (87)
30. Rashan Gary (87)
31. Christian Darrisaw (87)
*32. Amari Cooper (87)*
33. Mike Evans (87)
34. DeAndre Hopkins (87)
35. Tyrann Matthieu (87)
36. Bijan Robinson (87)
37. Demario Davis (87)
*38. Z'Darius Smith (86)*
39. Montez Sweat (86)
40. Rashawn Slater (86)
41. Kolton Miller (86)
42. Puka Nacua (86)
43. DK Metcalf (86)
44. Nico Collins (86)
45. Stephon Diggs (86)
46. L'jarius Sneed (86)
*47. Denzel Ward (86)*
48. Marshon Lattimore (86)
49. Jeffery Simmons (86)
50. Vita Vea (86)
51. Deforest Buckner (86)
52. Zack Martin (86)
53. Josh Jacobs (86)
Tiebreakers determined by positional value using the following scale:
QB>ED>OT>WR>CB>DT>OG>S>TE>C>RB>LB
For your tiebreakers WR and RB should definitely be last. They have the highest ratings across the board. A 90 OVR CB is far rarer in his rankings than a 90 WR
@@brendonbuffaloe8830that’s just because the talent is better at the position not bc the position is less valuable.
@@wardog211or maybe we’re generally overrating the likes of rb’s and wr’s because the way they impact a game is much more evident through stats than the likes of linebackers and safeties who are generally rated much lower. I don’t see any reason why linebackers should have so much of a lower talent level than receivers but I do see a reason why we might be judging each positions talent incorrectly.
@@wardog211 my exact point. If there are only 3 90+ CB’s but 6-7 90+ WR’s, the CB’s are more valuable. Value is inseparable from rarity. The more rare something is, the higher its value. It’s why water isn’t more valuable than a diamond despite having infinitely more uses.
Two things: 1 Schwartz did win assistant coach of the year
2: Schwartz had taken a leave of absence from coaching due to health issues which is why he was available and had been an advisor to Tennessee rather than a DC
Honestly didn't know they had an award for that haha. Awesome.
My man released this like right as I’m about to get off work hell yeah
Same!
same
This was awesome! I'm a huge Browns fan and our team rarely gets coverage outside of local reporters and analysts, and when they do get national coverage, it's usually pretty bad. This, however, was refreshing hearing an outside voice talk about the positives of this team!
Always appreciate the hard work you put into these. One of the best (and underrated football minds out there.)
MY GLORIOUS JETS HOLY SHIT😂😂🎉🎉
If they arent top 5 we riot
@@Goldcarolinabbq31 6 or 7 seems fair tbh
@@colbyzino7122 no worries they won’t even make the playoffs
@@dre2578 I'm honestly astonished the Jets are this high, even the Dolphins should have been ranked by now. First ratings by TFG I've disagreed with heavily in a long time.
@@nickward3878why are you surprised? i love him but he’s a rodgers fanboy 😂
I’m very high on the Browns as well. I know the playoff game leaves a sour taste in people’s mouths but the Browns when healthy are a damn good football team. I’m a little concerned about the lack of weapons on offense but defensively they should be elite again
thank you for talking about the deshaun watson situation and not letting it brush aside, i respect that you do that in your videos!
That formal Pro Bowler Tyler Huntley to you lol
1:04:55 the jumpscare😭🙏
Interesting frame
Thx for the content on my team. Was just at the Vikings game an spoke to GM AB,Depdesta,and Coach
My model also loves the browns this year
As a browns fan I for sure agree with you on Stefanskis criticism of his passing game. From watching the games as a casual it always seems like we can never get guys open in space, or hit anyone in stride with rac opportunity.
I want the browns to be good, but I just dislike watson so much.
Same. I'm keen for the Browns to finally get success but not with DW as QB. I'll hope for the Lions to do good instead
I was so excited for them to be good before the Watson trade now it's just depressing
Fr 😂
There's literally zero evidence he did anything illegal but ok
@@antonioiniguez1615you don't change massage therapists 20+ times in a summer cause you didn't do anything. Also you just don't have 20+ women saying you raped them cause you didn't do anything be real
Agree 100%. Njoku needs to get fed even more
As a Browns fan this deep dive pretty much sums up my feelings perfectly. The part about Ford was spot on and it's why the run game was so inconsistent after Chubb went down
Please read the judges disposition from his case
real ones remember the jaelon darden hype from tfg when he was coming out of UNT
Turns out the dude is a bag of rocks lol
My hot take is the Jerry Jeudy genre of receivers (bad hands amazing routes) are all basically built in a lab to play soccer and would probably make America an elite soccer nation, had they grown up with that instead
Jerry Jeudy having "bad hands" is a myth. He has one of the lowest drop rates in the NFL. He's dropped 18 passes in his 4-year career and 6 of those were in one game when he was a rookie. That means he's dropped 12 passes in his other 56 games.
Mannn.. a healthy chubb and the same foreman weve been getting, might pan out to be one of the best duos in the past decade
As a browns fan, thank you for finally saying something about who watson is off the field
Always rooting for the browns even more after reading these comments
Can I React To The Miami Dolphins Episode On My TH-cam Channel ? 👀👀
Of course!
For next years Deep dive series I was wondering if you would consider a general manager ranking being added into the coaching section
TFG Quarterback rankings
1. Patrick Mahomes
2. Josh Allen
5. Justin Herbert
6. Matthew Stafford
8. Trevor Lawrence
9. Dak Prescott
11. CJ Stroud
12. Kyler Murray
13. Jordan Love
15. Kirk Cousins
18. Geno Smith
19. Russell Wilson
20. Caleb Williams
21. Derek Carr
22. Baker Mayfield
23. Daniel Jones
24. Deshaun Watson
25. Bryce Young
26. Anthony Richardson
27. Jacoby Brissett/Drake Maye
28. Will Levis
29. Bo Nix
30. Gardner Minshew
31. Jayden Daniels
32. Sam Darnold
Remaining QB Rankings
3 Burrow
4 Jackson
7 Rodgers
10 Tua
14 Hurts
16 Goff
17 Purdy
@@Kangaroo-Bob 7 hurts
10 Rodgers
14 tua
@@ronktheponk how is Hurts better than Tua? Unless you count who had more interceptions last year
@@Kangaroo-BobSome folks really care about rushing ability, I don't know what to tell ya. I'd put them around equal level, personally - Hurts looked better 2 years ago than Tua ever has (and is slightly less injury prone) but he's also got some serious flaws to his game and boy did they show up last year.
@@Kangaroo-Bobif tua is 10 and Goff is 16 I might not watch the video
This might come across as hating (and it's not intended to be, because I love your content and watch all of these breakdowns), but one area where you might benefit from further reflection is how you tend to default with HCs to talking about "their side of the ball" a lot.
The HC's main job is pulling together a group of men in one uniform direction and 75% of the role (in my opinion) has nothing to do with playcalling or 'their side of the ball'..
So, when you rank guys like Stefanski and McDermott (whose teams have won consistently) as lowly as you do, I think you're focussing too much on their playcalling, and showing insufficient deference to the team's overall win record, which is their key objective as head coaches. Hiring and managing good staff under them. Keeping the organisation stable. Culture. All that important stuff.
That's not to discredit the points you make about Defensive HCs, because it's true that a revolving door at OC is not ideal. And maybe Josh Allen does carry McDermott to an extent.
But just generally, I think you should give more credit to the jobs HCs actually do as HCs in your rankings. And from that perspective, it's hard not to be impressed by what Stefanski achieved last year with a collection of frankly ludicrous QBs starting for large portions of the year.
Helll yeah I’ve been waiting all day for this
Alright here we go! I’ve been waiting on this for a while!
Been waiting months, ready to blow this out of the water
TFG you just have to do your own awards show at the end of the year so you can reference the “award winners” correctly
Stefanski isn't a bottom 15 coach that's a garbage take imo. And I'm not casual I watch almost every game of every team. He's like the 11th best coach I don't think he's like a amazing god tier coach but marcus pass scheme looking pretty or not dude has multple double digit wins with rosters decimated by injuries. We've had talented teams before and couldn't do that why does passing scheme matter so much? Whatever happened to leadership managing stars. You said yourself this is a talented roster yet almost no ego amongst this team.
45:50 I think all we can do is hope Nick Chubb returns to form. He's already been deadlifting like 600 pounds again, and he doesn't have a brace on, so I'm hopeful he returns by week 4 off the PuP list but still surprised on it if he looks ready to go.
He can't play in Week 4. The earliest he could return is Week 5. I'd rather see him come back after the bye. He could get some carries in Week 11 vs. the Saints, and get an increasing workload down the stretch.
I find them similar to the Seahawks. A lot of talent but one or two extremely crucial positions will be the deciding factor on a very scary and respectable team
Unless I'm forgetting someone, there hasn't been a unit in the NFL that earned a nickname since the Chiefs' receivers in 2018/2019 were called "Legion of Zoom", though I'm not sure that name ever got off the ground.
Only 2 days from the Texans video, I can’t wait for the next one!!
Imo when it came to coach of the year I thought stefanski deserved it because of the amount of injuries that this team faced last year and still pulling off a 10 win record and a playoff birth that I believe is good coaching I don’t think he’s one of the best in the business but with most coaches I don’t see what happened with the browns happening with other teams
11 wins and that includes resting the starters vs. Cinci because they had the 5th seed locked up win or lose.
Jerry Jeudy's not making $20M/year, he's making $17.5M/year
I know he probably just clumps in the 65-70 range but you missed out on Tony Fields who’s the projected starting Sam linebacker.
It's not a crown that gets passed around. Myles has been the best edge for a stretch
As a browns fan who is very critical of my own team. I think stefanski is like the 15tg best coach itl. I like the run game coaching a ton qnd think we are extremely multiple and he has a ton to do with that. I also think he is a extrenely good culture guy, but for a guy whom is supposed to be that big offensive hire i think he draws up the most bland passing concepts possible and is certainly not the QB guru hes supposed to be
And then I think you're high on Newsome, low on Emerson, high on jedrick wills(undisciplined and horrible), low on JOK
When you're starting the likes of Baker Mayfield, Jacoby Brissette, PJ Walker, and DTR, you're pretty limited in the things that you can do.
Love the videos dude. The amount of work you've put in and continue to put in to this stuff is incredible.
That said the Texans are better than the Browns.
I think Watson is gonna hold this team back massively to start the year, Winston gets named Starter Week 7ish, and attempts to save their season.
A little higher on the browns than I had them but I understand the reasoning. Browns just feel like a team that can beat literally anybody but can also lose to anybody if their offense isn’t performing
TFG remaining Power Rankings
(Predicted based on scheduled match-up difficulties)
8 Dolphins
7 Jets
6 Eagles
5 Ravens
4 Lions
3 49ers
2 Bengals
1 Chiefs
Bengals over 9ers?
Bengals way too high 7-5 is a good range
@kunalpatel1147 I could stomach Bengals over Ravens because of our O line concerns and the general fear that our defense regresses with Mike Mack gone. But Bengals over Lions? 9ers? No, can't agree with that.
@@MrSonicificationI'm a 9ers fan, and I would place Detroit ahead of SF rn. Especially if Aiyuk leaves.
@@zackhurwitz9441yeah I would too, but I wouldn't rank the Bengals over either of you. Or over the ravens, but admittedly that's my own bias
Kevin Stefanski is literally the only reason the browns have won games in the last few years, ranking him is 21 criminally bad and im saying this as a browns fan that lived through 2016
Deshuan Watson bounce back this year defense takes little step down and offense takes big step up make it more balance team then last year
Inconceivable that a team lead by Watson in 2024 is this high
How u not know the Orange Crush Defense? Like it wasnt like a 1 year stretch. They even played in a SB with Craig Morten at QB. Like they beat the defending champion Raiders and Pittsburgh innthe 77' playoffs. They had 3 great LBs. One just got in the HOF, the other probably wont make it and I know you know who Tom Jackson is. The D-line even had Alzado and Tombstone.
No team with a QB this bad should have ever been in the top 10. Right now the Cowboys are destroying the Browns.
Eye test pierre strong jumps off the screen so much more than jerome and the numbers back it up. I dont get why we are so committed to jerome ford
Been saying this is arguably the best roster in the league for years now, if Deshaun can just stay healthy and play not atrociously again I mean sky is the limit. They could win division and beat the chiefs. Hell they almost beat the chiefs in playoffs on the road with a worse roster and Baker Mayfield when Chiefs still had Tyreek…
If Deshaun is healthy and catches fire they are at least a top 3 AFC team and that’s if Ravens and Jets hit their ceiling aswell. Not tryna ignore the Dolphins and Chiefs but again, if Deshaun somehow returns to who he was as a player and the team hits their ceiling I truly believe peak ravens and jets are the only ones that could stop them from reaching the Super Bowl. All 3 have the highest ceiling in AFC but could bust, it’s gonna be a super interesting season man we shall see who is real.
Prayers for Chubbs man
Whooooo deeeeeyyyy think Marcus is on the hypetrain
Dolphins and Browns over Bills and Texans is crazy.
Have you not paid attention to the bills offseason? Idk how you could have them over those teams
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I’m biased as the Browns are my team and I’m satisfied with this rank. However I think you’re way too low on MJ Emerson. He’s a borderline top 10-15?cb
Kareem Hunt with 9 TDs = no one.... got it..
You know he’s a free agent right? Even if you wanted to debate his impact at this stage in his career he isn’t on a roster, let alone the Browns, so it’s a moot point?
TFG's top 109 players in the series so far.
1. Myles Garrett (99)
2. Justin Jefferson (99)
3. Micah Parsons (97)
4. T.J. Watt (96)
5. Dexter Lawrence (95)
6. CeeDee Lamb (95)
7. Max Crosby (95)
8. Jessie Bates (95)
9. Pat Surtain (94)
10. Josh Allen (92)
11. Devonte Adams (91)
12. Tristan Wirfs (91)
13. Jaire Alexander (90)
14. Chris Lindstrom (90)
15. Antoine Winfield (90)
16. Josh Hines-Allen (90)
17. Laremy Tunsil (89)
18. Andrew Thomas (89)
19. DJ Moore (89)
20. Terry Mclaurin (89)
21. Quenton Nelson (88)
22. Danielle Hunter (88)
23. Minkah Fitzpatrick (88)
24. Johnathan Taylor (88)
25. Derrick Brown (88)
26. Keenan Allen (88)
27. Matt stafford (87)
28. Demario Davis (87)
29. Mike Evans (87)
30. Bijan Robertson (87)
31. Amari Cooper (87)
32. Christian Darrisaw (87)
33. DeAndre Hopkins (87)
34. Khalil Mack (87)
35. Rashan Gary (87)
36. Tyrann Matthieu (87)
37. Justin Herbert (86)
38. Puka Nacua (86)
39. Zach Martin (86)
40. Vita Vea (86)
41. Deforest Buckner (86)
42. Jeffery Simmons (86)
43. Rashawn Slater (86)
44. L'jarius Sneed (86)
45. Montez Sweat (86)
46. Josh Jacobs (86)
47. DK Metcalf (86)
48. Nico Collins (86)
49. Stephon Diggs (86)
50. Denzel Ward (86)
51. Kolton miller (86)
52. Marshon Lattimore (86)
53. Z'Darius Smith (86)
54. Trevor Lawrence (85)
55. Cooper Kupp (85)
56. Devon Witherspoon (85)
57. Chris Olave (85)
58. Christian Wilkins (85)
59. A.J. Terrell (85)
60. Jaylon Johnson (85)
61. Joel Bitonio (85)
62. Kenny Clark (85)
63. Travis Etienne (85)
64. Aaron Jones (85)
65. T.J. Hockenson (85)
66. Xavier McKinney (85)
67. Jamel Dean (85)
68. Gerret Bolles (85)
69. Kyren Williams (84)
70. Dak Prescott (84)
71. Brian Burns (84)
72. Tyler Smith (84)
73. Drake London (84)
74. Budda Baker (84)
75. Matt Milano (84)
76. Johnathon Allen (84)
77. Demarcus Lawrence (84)
78. Alex Highsmith (84)
79. Cj Stroud (83)
80. Kyler Murray (83)
81. Will Anderson jr (83)
82. Joey Bosa (83)
83. Keneth walker (83)
84. James Conner (83)
85. Derrick Stingley jr (83)
86. Wyatt Teller (83)
87. Micheal Pittman jr. (83)
88. Kyle Pitts (83)
89. David Njoku (83)
90. Levonte David (83)
91. Christian Barmore (83)
92. Trevon Diggs (83)
93. Foyesade Oluokun (83)
94. T.J. Edwards (83)
95. Najee Harris (83)
96. Elgton Jenkins (83)
97. Brian O'Neil (83)
98. MHJ (82)
99. Jordan Love (82)
100. Derwin James (82)
101. Mathew Judon (82)
102. Jaycee Horn (82)
103. Trey McBride (82)
104. Joe Mixon (82)
105. Braden Smith (82)
106. Darius Williams (82)
107. courtland Sutton (82)
108. Bobby Okereke (82)
109. Grover Stewart (82)
Did you change your mind on the Seahawks at 20 spot?
Connor Williams signed moved them up.
Didn't show on the graphic this video. Not tripping either way but just curious if it's an error or he changed his mind
His rating probably changed because the vikings sign Stephon Gilmore. Last years rating was 85 overall.
You forgot to list Tony Fields with the linebackers. I know he's not a household name, but I expect him to make that roster
Thanks! Yeah doesn't change anything but definitely an oversight on my end.
I feel like the Jets should have been revealed by now they have the worst OC in the Nathaniel Hackett
Aaron Rodgers is their offensive coordinator
@@ThatFranchiseGuyyou should list it like that on the graphic 😂
I honestly might.
@@ThatFranchiseGuy I know this is a day old but can you really dive into your thoughts on this during the jets deep dive? I think it's a bit simplistic to think any QB, even as good and experienced as Rodgers, can "simply be the OC". This wasn't the case in GB when he had a legit playcaller in Lafleur.
Look at Brady in his final year. Leftwich took over playcalling, and it was a disaster. Brady is even more experienced then Rodgers, yet he couldn't "call his own offense". Because it's a feasible expectation game to game. Especially in the playoffs, on the road, against teams like Buffalo and KC.
Jets are next then I could see it being lions or dolphins
It might not be too late to edit this video
Man that´s a lot of faith in Aaron Rodgers, will be interesting to see though
Ravens have to be next, when Ronnie Stanley gets injured this team will only have one NFL level OL. Worst roster in AFC North
Top 5 QB, better HC than Cincinnati, Philadelphia, Jets and debatably the dolphins. They get a lot out of whoever they're playing on the o line, that's the benefit of good coaching.
Ok group of weapons in the passing game. Flowers, Andrews and Likely. Derrick Henry.
All-pros at every level of their defense. Consistently great coaching in that regard as well. Great special teams.
I don't see how they can be lower than 5.
1:07:01 🤨
Dolphins and Jets have got to be the next two teams revealed
Ravens should have already left, they lost: Clowney, OBJ, Zeitler, John Simpson, Patrick Queen, Geno Stone, Gus Edwards, Duvernay and the DC. Crazy how this team is overrated just because they played well in 2023
Imagine if they had prime Watson... it would be scary
Ho messo questo video a tutto volume, ora i miei vicini pensano che stia dando una festa. Dovrò deluderli🍓
Dawg pound!!!
My prediction for the top 8.
8.dolphins
7.Eagles
6. Jets
5. Bengals
4. Ravens
3. Lions
2.49ers
1. Chiefs
I am way higher on Stefanski than you as a Browns Fan. If he gets better in the pass game with Dorsey he can be great. But there are many Browns fans that are on the other side.
If they stay healthy even if they win the same games they will be better so I'm gonna do the hot take and actually say IF healthy this is low.
Browns die hard fans have been screaming for Stefanski to give up play calling! He would probably get better at game management if he would! I think your HC rank is fair! DC Schwartz is the greatest non-player asset in the NFL!!
How in the world have the Dolphins made it this far holy shit 😂
Watson will get benched for Jameis by week 8
Do you think it's completly unrealistic that Watson plays like a top 10 quarterback? If he does, how high would the Browns rank?
I kinda do think that's unrealistic, yeah
@@ThatFranchiseGuy fair haha, I’m kind of just hoping I don’t really have much logic for it
@@ThatFranchiseGuy There is no way of knowing. He hasn't played more than 6 games in a row since 2020.
2022 was a rust year. New team. New system. Not much practice time.
2023 was an injury year. He played 2-1/2 healthy games out of 6. He had no continuity. The stats really mean nothing:
Game 1 was played in a monsoon. Look up Joe Burrow's stats for that game.
Game 2 Watson played poorly, but on the Pick-6 he hit the receiver right in the hands who tipped it to a DB. That was the difference in the game.
Game 3 he completed 82% of his passes and had a passer rating of 123.
Games 4 & 5 out.
Game 6 tried to play hurt. Couldn't.
Game 7 out.
Game 8 he completed 63% of his passes and had a passer rating of 107.
Game 9 he looked like Game 2 Watson in the first half and Game 3 Watson in the second.
If Watson gets to play 15-16 healthy games, I suspect he'll be a lot more like Game 3 and 8 Watson than Game 2 Watson.
I'm awful at guessing😭(Bengals are next, trust me).
Posted an hour ago. Video is a little under 2 hours.
People questioning your ranking while it's physically IMPOSSIBLE for ANYONE to have watched the full video lmao.
Browns are #9. Cope.
predicting
chiefs
49ers
ravens
eagles
lions
bengals
jets
dolphins
Garrett a 99 but Watt a 96 🙄
TFG rankings (my rankings)
9. Browns (10)
10. Texans (7)
11. Cowboys (14)
12. Rams (13)
13. Packers (9)
14. Falcons (15)
15. Bills (12)
16. Colts (16)
17. Jaguars (19)
18. Steelers (21)
19. Bears (18)
20. Vikings (20)
21. Seahawks (17)
22. Cardinals (26)
23. Buccaneers (22)
24. Raiders (24)
25. Chargers (23)
26. Saints (25)
27. Giants (28)
28. Broncos (31)
29. Titans (27)
30. Panthers (30)
31. Commanders (29)
32. Patriots (32)
The Cleveland Browns have done everything right as a team...except when it comes to QB, and that's why the football gods punish them. Trade for the POS Deshaun Watson and give him a FULLY GUARANTEED deal? Strip him of all his talent and make him a husk of his former self. Even with how great this defense is, I think it's gonna take A LOT for them to make the playoffs again. I think the floor is 8-9 and the ceiling is 10-7
Your channel reminds me of my grandma 🙂
Way too high this os gotta be a joke
no way
Cope
I'm actually serious when I say this how can you say the floor of this team is anywhere near better than the floor of the packers or the Texans
The floor of this team is Deshaun is a bottom 5 QB and Chubb doesn't come back until midway into the season and isn't the same
So... Like Last year where the Browns still won more games than both HOU & GB with a harder schedule?
@@jackcarroll1330so they get more snaps from Chubb and Watson plays better than last year? 12 wins incoming.
Crazy to put browns over texans is crazy
Not really. Why is it that when the corpse of the browns roster beat the injured Texans week 16, everyone said “you beat an injured Texans team, you should win” but when the Texans got healthy and beat the injured browns, it’s “the Texans are just better than the browns”
@christiancorley4309 they both had the most amount of injuries in the NFL it was all about who wanted it more and the texans had the upper hand even without our starters & also do you believe DeShawn watson is ganna have a comeback this year ?
Not really the Texans played an injured Browns team so a lot of people are overreacting to that. But this series assumes that all the teams are healthy
@@spartan_a1176 lol, the Texans were able to play most if not all of their best players. Cleveland had UDFA’s and emergency free agent signings having to start
What metric is myles better than tj😂 literally nothing besides the pff “almost gotcha” stat
The People want Jameis over Deshaun Watson
Nick Chubb goat idc
*9:00** THANK YOU!*
*As a Browns fan myself, I keep saying that Stefanksi is the most OVERRATED HC in the NFL. He gets pedestalized for doing the BARE MINIMUM with an extremely loaded roater.*
The Browns really got robbed on the Watson trade ! Glad he’s not here, going thru that fiasco and struggling for a few years was worth drafting Stroud and a bright future ! Beating the Browns in the playoffs was extra special 😂
You should put that Photoshop photo of Bill Cosby’s face on Deshaun Watson as his photo next year
Cosby was convicted of a number of crimes. Watson was never even charged with one.
18:58 getting paid to talk football and not knowing any of the publicly available information is wild
Your right… he gets paid to talk about FOOTBALL. Watson’s off field stuff is just that.
crazy how the AFC North has 3 teams in the top 10 and the Steelers will still manage to have a winning division record
They wont
These guys are way overrated man
It's not about if Watson did or not. It's also not excusing the behavior he or others did (your example Big Ben) but you dont give any benefit of the doubt or treat them as humans. The things they did were to humans but it doesnt fell right to not understand people learn or change. I get not liking the guy but many of these guys do their punishment and learn from. Will see with Watson and I get the 2 cases arent settled so its not completely over and resolved but your video is how good the football player and I get bringing it up but its been a few years so to talk about it as much as his play seems like you have a vandeta and you ignore other behavior that other players do. You pick and choose and that is wrong.
I still can’t believe that Kevin Stefanski won coach of the year over Sean Mcvay, Demeco Ryans, or Shane Steichen
Lafleur too imo