How the Shoulders ACTUALLY Function In the Golf Swing

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    In today’s video, we're going to be talking about how the shoulders relate to the chest and the upper spine and how our shoulder plane can affect our swing direction, swing plane, etc.
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  • @tsgolf
    @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @cakedupkevin
    @cakedupkevin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    New favorite golf instructor account. Found you from Eric Cogorno’s recent collab videos with you. You’re a genius.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you much!!! I greatly appreciate that! If you ever need anything or have questions, please feel free to reach out! 👊👊👊

  • @johnharrington6122
    @johnharrington6122 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Trevor , I don’t quite know what to say , I’m 76 and a retired PGA Teaching Professional , I’ve watched you with Eric and I’ve watched Eric at his range and most likely have read more instruction books than most and had more swing thoughts than anyone and you came across my I Pad this morning . In my own swing ( I taught my students the right way ) I always had a massive shoulder turn but believed something wasn’t right . I had the Ledbetter “ load the right hip socket “ backswing and a few years back decided I needed to tilt more ( not S&T ) , I only hit drivers into my home net these days because of a real bad left wrist ( U.I.S. ) , went out after I watched this and didn’t bother with the drills you mentioned and it all became clear in an instant . I’m a “ one planer” , I thought about Hardy’s book about how you have to bend the chest over and swing the left arm across the chest with the right shoulder going behind the neck , unbelievable ! All I have to do is stay behind the ball and I’m good ! You’re the best , Thanks Trevor , John

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So cool to hear this coming from another teacher! Thanks for the comment, feedback and detail in response! So cool this related to you so well and was easy to conceptualize! And most of all it took away some pain you had.
      If you ever need anything or have any questions, please don’t hesitate to reach out!

  • @Krackhead-g2j
    @Krackhead-g2j ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As a tall golfer I always had an issue with proper shoulder turn. The teachings of "make your front shoulder point towards the ground" basically tore my rotator cuff. This lesson is pretty awesome guys and I hope you listen to it. It'll change your life.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you much for the feedback and comment here! Greatly appreciate it. If you ever need anything or have any questions, please don’t hesitate to reach out!

  • @michaelkrailo5725
    @michaelkrailo5725 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This is incredible. I have never heard a description of the shoulder turn like this before and it actually gets me into a decent P4 position now. I can't believe it, just left shoulder down and across to get to P2, and finish the swing with that right shoulder directly behind your center. I will be working on this all during the off season to engrain the feel of it. Before I was using all right shoulder and stretching out my right side only. That caused my left shoulder to ride up way to high and the swing was still too flat. Now with this new way, I have a more upright plane.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the feedback and glad to hear this helped you comprehend this part of the motion! It is a slightly different view point from just keeping lead shoulder down. Thanks! 👊👊

  • @brianlamp3539
    @brianlamp3539 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I just found this video and I have to say this is the missing piece for me. I'm engaging muscles in my swing that I never used before. Pointing my chest at the ball at address puts it all together. I have been struggling for 2 years with improper rotation. This video was such an eye-opener. Thank you for taking the time to post this video and sharing your knowledge.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you so much for taking the time to leave the feedback and comment here! Super cool to hear! If you ever need anything or have any questions, please do let me know!
      TS

  • @FrancisSalinas-g6y
    @FrancisSalinas-g6y ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Brilliant explanation. I’m so happy to have found your channel through your lessons with Eric Cogorno. As a physician who took up golf late in late, your easy to understand (for non medical people) explanations of how your anatomy and biomechanics help your golf swing are so incredibly helpful to generate an effortless powerful swing.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Appreciate the feedback! Let me know if you ever need anything!

  • @wisconsinite920
    @wisconsinite920 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Such a great video about EXACTLY what I've been working on correcting all summer. Old habits are hard to break, but I'm on the right path. Thank you!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Great to hear! Thanks for sharing and keep at it! If you need anything or have any questions, please do let me know!

  • @igorsalapaho9305
    @igorsalapaho9305 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You’ve just described all of the swing flaws I’ve ever had, this is exactly what I need to work on. Thank you Trevor, this is pure gold.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You got it! Let me know how it goes and if you have any questions!

  • @adamskaboy
    @adamskaboy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video instruction combined with your instruction video with the 45 degree hip turns for the backswing/transition/downswing with the alignment rod station has been a fabulous help to me…suddenly I was in balance and getting to my 45 degree hip turn on my lead side and BINGO…I was getting a nice divot and ball compression for a nice result…as long as my tempo remains good I think I can do pretty well…THANKS!
    Secondly I might have been a bit harsh with a comment to your channel a day or so ago…just frustrated at working hard with no good results…pardon my frustrations please.
    Your instructional insights are extremely useful for getting to the heart of a potential problem causing mishits.
    Cerebral training works for me…you have a great ability to dig deep for your students on YT .

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much for the kind words and feedback here on the content I make. Means a lot. The most difficult thing about making TH-cam vids is they are meant as an educational purpose on cause and effect vs. trying to give people quick fixes. I can’t ever promise this info will fix anything, only meant to help shed light on areas of the golf swing I see problematic from in-person and online sessions I instruct.
      If you ever need anything or have any questions, please don’t hesitate to reach out!

  • @johnmartin4332
    @johnmartin4332 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your explanation is spot on! I've incorporated your suggestions with immediate positive results! Been too flat for years. My "big miss" is getting chunky (fat) sometimes. Very frustrating. I realize it's hard for you to diagnose without viewing my swing. I'll go a couple of rounds using your technique, and then the wheels fall off and the chunks are back. I've even tried it with all of my weight on the forward foot!!! In any case thanks for your videos

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So great to hear this! Glad it helped you understand the role of the shoulder a bit more in the golf swing! Appreciate the time to leave the feedback on this! 🙏🙏🙏
      If you ever need anything or have any questions, please do let me know!

  • @bille9995
    @bille9995 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "INCREDIBLE" drill! Incredible teaching! I love the way that you bring the golf swing down to a simpler level of instruction for us that aren't experts in the game. We want to get better. But quite often the teachers communicate as if they are teaching a professional. You put the lessons into an understandable language and way that's relatable. THANK YOU Coach Trevor! THANK YOU!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Really do appreciate this feedback here and happy that this is helping to simplify the complex movements we have in the golf swing!
      Thank you again and if you ever need anything, please do let me know!
      TS

  • @ClaroCapilla
    @ClaroCapilla หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This "method" of turning is friendlier to weekend golfers like myself. It removes the usual (but intimidating) requirement of being extra flexible. Thanks for this, man!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you! Greatly appreciate the comment and kind words! Glad this makes sense! If you ever have any questions or need anything, please don’t hesitate to reach out!
      TS

  • @love2flash
    @love2flash 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dam, i tried it for a few minutes then hit balls, and it is amazing, i have never felt that feeling before and hit through the ball so easy. Ok I see i got work to do and bad habits to break, but i can see the path to improvement. thank you.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Love hearing that! Thanks so much for sharing and glad this has helped you out with the comprehension of how the shoulders work! Thanks again!

  • @skyhookgaming1764
    @skyhookgaming1764 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So glad I found your channel - this video could be a game changer for me. Never seen posture/spine angle/shoulders explained this way. I know I am too upright which I can see now keeps my shoulders too level - leading to really good shots if I reroute my swing plane properly or really bad shots (fat, hooks, and some tops). Looking forward to your next video. Thank you.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing and glad this information helped you! Thanks for the comment and feedback! If you ever need anything, please don’t hesitate to reach out!

  • @GUYB1872
    @GUYB1872 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just found your videos. I have gone from 5 hdcp to a 10 in the last year. I had a video lesson yesterday from my pro, and was surprised to see how level my shoulder rotation has become. I’m taking this video to the range now to get me back on plane. BTW you have an amazing effortless golf swing.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the kind words and feedback here! I’m sorry for your struggles that you’ve had and I hope this helps out! If you need anything, please don’t hesitate to reach out!

  • @JohnZell-qm2bt
    @JohnZell-qm2bt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never realized that you should consciously point your striatum down toward the ground at address to increase your shoulders range of motion ... thanks for the insights, steps and drills to work on this ... I notice when I get fatigued that I start to only raise my arms ... thinking if I keep putting in the "feels" reaps, should help even when I get tired ... Thanks! great stuff!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! Glad this helped! The more you practice these movements, the more you will want to do these things when you tired as they become easier for the brain to access! Rewiring is a cool process, just takes time and reps!

  • @anthonypappas4820
    @anthonypappas4820 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Could never get that shoulder turn on plane. Always coming up out of the backswing and unaware of it happening. You explained this in a way that just clicked for me. Helped me get that compression also. Just fantastic! Thank you, I'm enjoying playing golf again.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So awesome to hear! Thank you for sharing! Greatly appreciate it!!

  • @joeh725
    @joeh725 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great modern instructor has allowed me to deconstruct my swing mechanics and allowed me to titrate my experience, feels, and video analysis into break through results - Gold.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks a bunch for the feedback and comment! If you ever need anything, please don’t hesitate to reach out!

  • @Murf1802
    @Murf1802 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Idk this may be my 3rd or 4th powerwatch of some of your thoughts, and videos,absolutely loving what I'm hearing, seeing on you're concepts on how to help golfers understand, TS , so good, really man, Bravo brother.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Can’t thank you enough! Glad this helps and let me know if you have any questions on it!

  • @johnfitzpatrick7569
    @johnfitzpatrick7569 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trevor, your videos are always in great detail with easy explanation. Thank you.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Appreciate it

  • @sandramaier2781
    @sandramaier2781 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the indepth explanation of the proper shoulder turn!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You got it!!! Thank you for the feedback and comment here!

  • @steviek6484
    @steviek6484 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent lesson once again Trevor. I always pick up something new each time I watch it and appreciate the way you teach practicing. Not just doing a few rehearsals and hitting balls

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much for this! I greatly appreciate it! Means a lot! Glad this is helping and let me know if you have any questions!

  • @tompeadon
    @tompeadon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a sweet swing…great explanation, oration of how to get a “proper” shoulder plane. Thanks!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you much! I greatly appreciate the feedback here!

  • @sirtogii5216
    @sirtogii5216 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So chuffed you did the collaboration with Cogorno. The explanations on posture in terms of how it affects balance has made a world of difference. Huge thanks!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you much! Appreciate the feedback! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @TheRich000007
    @TheRich000007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing. It would be awesome if u continued in detail the shoulders on the downswing and how you develop right side bend thru the downswing.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will add this to my list for you of content to shoot! Thank you!!!

  • @Dickson_Sider
    @Dickson_Sider ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just dropping a comment for the algorithm! Really like how you explain things. I’m only 2 weeks in and suck but your videos have really helped me so far!! Thank you 👊

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate it!!! Thank you much! Let me know if you ever need anything!

  • @djpoints
    @djpoints ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TS, this is an outstanding presentation. Love the emphasis on the trail side shoulder to get the lead shoulder in proper position. So much better than the emphasis of the lead shoulder at ball and trail elbow down that I grew up with. When I got older, wiser, and quite frankly in need of a motion more comfortable I naturally ignored the lead tilt and let that trail elbow fly like Jack and so many other greats. I also find it also naturally facilitates a motion that is much more in sync with gravity throughout entire swing. The only thing I'll add is to do Jack's famous side eye at address and this opens things up even more for that trail shoulder retraction. Anyway, again, outstanding!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate all this and the feedback you left here! Means a lot! Not ever saying that it can’t be don’t the way Jack did it! Guy is a legend! There can be easier ways of doing for the average person! Shedding some light on how that can be done! Greatly appreciate the comment and please let me know if you ever have questions or need anything!

    • @djpoints
      @djpoints ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tsgolf thanks dude, love seeing those right elbows fly. As a kid I hit it my best that way, but all the local "experts" would always correct me to keep it pointing down at top. Even though I would eventually get it in slot. But as an adult I've studied so many of the greatest players and that right elbow can do whatever it wants at top. The great Mike Austin emphasized this as well. To me it's what generates a truly tension free, gravity assisted motion. So anyway that's why I love your right shoulder retraction drill!

  • @kickturncurtis606
    @kickturncurtis606 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great series!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!

  • @derekunderwood3356
    @derekunderwood3356 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome stuff! And I'm actually the opposite on the lead shoulder pointing to the ball. That actually helped me but this explains it so much better and what's really going on.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for sharing and glad this helped! Let me know if you have any questions!

  • @meots
    @meots ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent lesson and just what I needed. Thank you!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!!! Glad this helps!

  • @balancedapproachdogtraining
    @balancedapproachdogtraining 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Makes excellent sense I’m going to try these drills

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! Greatly appreciate it! 👊👊👊

  • @anthonysinclair4114
    @anthonysinclair4114 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Huge respect Trev from a fellow PGA pro, mate you are outstanding

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you much! I greatly appreciate it! If you ever need anything, please don’t hesitate to reach out!

  • @gml8282
    @gml8282 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Terrific insights in this one TS! I especially like the drills added to lock in the "feel". A lot of unlearning has to do with dialling back the aggressive athleticism that we tend to bring to the golf swing from other sports i.e., baseball, ice hockey. It's all about working with the spine! thx as always!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Couldn’t agree more! Thank you for the feedback, appreciate the support and let me know if you ever need anything!

  • @mannyman8312
    @mannyman8312 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely brilliant interpretation, exactly my issues. Been looking for this 💡 light bulb moment.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So awesome to hear! Thank you!

  • @GolferinUSA
    @GolferinUSA 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great lesson Trevor

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you!!

  • @leeearle1169
    @leeearle1169 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video 🙌
    Is this a one or two plain swing I wonder 🤔
    Whatever it is you got a great elegant stylish swing
    Iv seen on other videos you drop the club behind you on the backswing using natural laws of things falling which amazingly squares the club face by the time impact happens

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This would be on more a constant radius motion. Will also work for motions like Rory’s etc. though. More than anything it is explaining how the shoulder can move and the functionality of them play in the golf swing. Thanks for the comment

  • @dougwetzel1609
    @dougwetzel1609 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great stuff!!!!! Love your videos!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much! Greatly appreciate it! Let me know if you ever need anything!

  • @nelsonjames1272
    @nelsonjames1272 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well done sir. Like your action.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you!

  • @jimdoling8125
    @jimdoling8125 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have terrible early extension coming off a flat shoulder turn Have tried everything from multiple teachers with only failure resulting in topped and fat shots

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Happy to help you anyway I can! Here is a link honestly for a free consultation call if you even like to just discuss the cause and effect of it with you.
      calendly.com/trevorsalzmangolf/free-15-minute-consultation
      Let me know if you have any questions or need anything!
      TS

  • @andrepark78
    @andrepark78 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd like to know if you keep most weight on your lead foot. Trying to fix low point issues as such, thin shots are the norm. Your swing looks very compact wo alot of moving parts. Well done !

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In my backswing I use the trail side of the hip to turn and push pressure towards the lead side early (by getting pressure to lead side early, you can use it early and create stability). I’m good as well with starting our 60-40 lead side or even drill w/ more pressure there to help low point

  • @essoteric
    @essoteric 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Game changing.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! 🙏

  • @williamreichert4798
    @williamreichert4798 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Most people who retract their right shoulder. like you demonstrate cannot then connect their right and left hands

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are some players who can’t I agree. There is surely more than one way to swing the club. This is only a video to explain how the shoulders have the ability to work.
      Happy to help answer any questions you have about your own swing or other ways to sync things up. I’ll attach a free consultation call link below if you’d like to chat:
      calendly.com/trevorsalzmangolf/free-15-minute-consultation

  • @alainsimeon3196
    @alainsimeon3196 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I have the following question: at the top of the backswing what hand position are you recommending? In front of the sternum? or should they go further back? Thanks

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would say with a neutral grip, flat lead wrist, extended trail wrist, and neutral forearm positions form a rotation standpoint. Lead arm on shoulder line and trail arm on seam line!

  • @Dickson_Sider
    @Dickson_Sider 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Trevor, been watching ur vids since I first started golf about 6-7 months ago. I wanted to see if I could send you a couple videos of my swing to see what I’m doing wrong and suggestions on practicing/drills. Would that be possible? Can compensate you obviously.. Just have been constantly told i am rotating incorrectly… and am lost 😔

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I would be happy to help anyway I possibly can! I’ll attach a link for my schedule for lesson and consultation call! Would love to jump on that and chat!
      calendly.com/trevorsalzmangolf

  • @rpbrayden
    @rpbrayden ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I fully enjoyed that. I struggle with my shoulders , I hope I’m signed up so I can see more?

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve got some good vids coming up for you all! Let me know if you need anything or have any questions!

  • @MrKarju8
    @MrKarju8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was a 5 handicap, then a couple of kids happened, got back on the course to have zero consistency, surely I just need to hit more balls. I would dig divots big enough for my kids to play hide and seek. This here gave me the feeling of, oh shit, this is how it felt.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Love hearing that! I hope this helps and please let me know if you need anything or have any questions! Thanks for the comment!
      TS

  • @primafacie6442
    @primafacie6442 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great instruction 👍🏽 but 9:46 shadow tip is challenging in the UK weather.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha! We need to get you out here to Miami where there is some sunlight!!! Thank you!!!!

  • @thegreatproductspage1860
    @thegreatproductspage1860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when starting with the lead shoulder the club likes to move a little inside are you hinging the wrist or creating a little lift in the first part to get the club up on plane a little?

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is slight amount of hinge unless you have a fairly strong forward press at the address position. Just enough to get the shaft parallel to the ground

  • @afs-drew9644
    @afs-drew9644 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love your channel. New subscriber. You remind me of Danny from Caddy Shack ! :) I keep expecting Rodney Dangerfield to pop out of the bushes and excuse himself for being late to his lesson. Keep up the great work !

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha! I love that! Thanks for the feedback and laugh this am!!! Let me know if you ever need anything!

  • @3chorses
    @3chorses ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched this video wondering if the scapula into the neck pain that golfing afflicts me with was being caused by improper shoulder turn. I feel my shoulder turn is mimicking yours but I suspect being fast in transition is tearing up my left side. would you recommend one of yours that focus on that part of the swing. There's a lot of people on the net spewing good golf info but I just seem to relate to the way your communicating the info which is key for a teaching professional :)

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you much for the kind words here and glad all this info has been helping you out! Happy to help anyway I can! In regards to what is hurting your lead shoulder, it is most likely pulling internally through the ball causing it to get jammed up. Send me a vid or DM a swing and I’d be happy to give you some advice!

    • @3chorses
      @3chorses ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank Trevor I'll get someone to vid me and do that.@@tsgolf

  • @ge8382
    @ge8382 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am trying this and while it definitely makes me look better on video, it is hard to bring this back to the ball the way I am used to. I used to turn it relatively short, sway a bit of the ball and stand up a bit (still playing under par rounds occasionally). Would you have any tips to bring it back to a proper delivery from this ‘new’ position or you reckon it is just getting used to it and it will come naturally? Thanks for the video!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The best way I could help you is being able to see you swing. DM me a vid on IG if you’d like or email. Happy to take a look.
      I’ll also add a video here to content list of future vids!
      Thanks,
      TS

    • @ge8382
      @ge8382 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Appreciate that🙏.

  • @craigsuchan1929
    @craigsuchan1929 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have tried this drill in the house and can take it to the range with my irons from my wedges to my 7/6 iron. Longer irons and driver are a big issue now I can get that side bend for those clubs in either direction. Takeaway or follow through. Really struggling with this and it’s super frustrating. Lol.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This would likely mean the arms are likely a bit to far in front early. Send me a swing and I’ll take a peek if you’d like

    • @craigsuchan1929
      @craigsuchan1929 ปีที่แล้ว

      What would be the best platform or means to send you a video. Super appreciate it.

  • @johnmartin4332
    @johnmartin4332 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just watched this and it is what the doctor ordered!!!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Awesome!! Thanks for sharing and appreciate the comment!

  • @tonydemarco7952
    @tonydemarco7952 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He's the man !!!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you!!!! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @alecrosekrans
    @alecrosekrans ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dude...finally.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hope this helps!

  • @scottyholdridge
    @scottyholdridge ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This mother fuck'r never misses. Wakes up and blows minds. legend.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🙏🙏🙏

  • @davidmcnamara3243
    @davidmcnamara3243 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can make as big a shoulder turn, as you want, but make sure you relax the trapezius muscles at transition, with the soulders closed, arms freefalling to P5, dropping into the slot.
    With no intention,vof hitting the golf ball.
    The secret, is to turn your arms , shoulders, brain off at transition
    The reactive brain will take you through the shot, with dead arms , slinging in phaze, with the rotating mass 😊

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is more than one way to do! I agree with that for sure. Thanks for the comment

  • @johnwilliams7236
    @johnwilliams7236 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you much!

  • @Dan.p.
    @Dan.p. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfect ty!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      👊👊👊

  • @Rd-bi7vr
    @Rd-bi7vr หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Best explanation of backswing ever and trust me I looked and looked over the years ! Thank you

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you! Greatly appreciate that! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @724riff
    @724riff 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That is compact but still maintains depth also

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bingo!

  • @Aoelx
    @Aoelx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have similar issue I think. My left shoulder goes slightly down in the backswing so I have to compensate and stand up in the downswing. Definitely killing any sense of consistency 😳😳 !

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hopefully this sheds some light on how to fix it! Let me know if you have any questions!

    • @Aoelx
      @Aoelx ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it similar drills if the lead shoulder/heads goes down in the backswing? This video feels to be more focused on the opposite when the shoulder plane gets more horizontal ⛳️😊.

  • @Raggmuff
    @Raggmuff 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It BURNS!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      👊👊👊

  • @guntars66
    @guntars66 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trīs is truth only when the player use default dynamic structure of movement. This structure is the basic cause of injuries in golf. Problems with steep or shallow is not relevant with full body dynamics. Dynamic structure of movement is what determines all kinematic and rhythmic in movement. The hardest task of coaching is work for informatics structure of movement that allows use not default dynamic and open the hidden sources of force that’s available in golf swing. Shoulder turn and plane is normally only effect of this forces and therefore as all kinematic structure is not primary teachable.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wouldn’t disagree at all with what you are saying. Working with players firstly that don’t understand movements can be difficult doing all these things dynamic only at times and trying to bring awareness to new muscles being, balances changes, moving to create a counterbalance etc. When a player reaches a certain skill development, dynamics of creating more force are also highly important. Tour players and scratch golfers make-up a very small percentage of the golf world compared the high handicap players. I don’t disagree with what you are saying. Thanks for the comment and your perspective.

    • @guntars66
      @guntars66 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tsgolf Your absolutely right about the amount of low handicap players. I can only ad that the reason why golf is so difficult comes from trying use default dynamics structure for straight shots. When I speak about dynamic that means not doing movement dynamically, but use other groups of muscles , not shoulder turn that is only secondary and small part of the force of golf swing. My opinion is that the basics of coaching for linear forces gives maybe not so fast but much more possibility that we have a lot of good players in our teaching career. Shoulder turn is a rotation and can be used only as effect of all other linear forces . Is extremely harder tray use rotation for straight hits as lean a linear force for golf swing. I try my self for more as 10 years and see around me lot of people doing the same. There is thousands possibilities of compensations that we can find in TH-cam how increase the possibilities of straight shut. Human anatomy gives us more of one power source for golf. When the teaching comes from shoulders not from ground up I see thousands of lost golfers who wander the vastness of internet in search of secret moves or body positions. In every sport every good movement starts from ground up and ends in ground. This understanding comes from more as thousand years knowledge of Chinese fighters arts an can’t be wrong because you are dead when you wrong in fight.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@guntars66 appreciate the feedback and I will likely go to my grave is saying that if we don’t control the ground and the pelvis everything else is not going to work efficiently. Shoot me an email or DM on a social media platform like IG and we can get on a call to discuss. Love chatting about stuff like this with players and coaches. My email is trevorsalzmangolf@gmail.com

  • @TopblokeGolf
    @TopblokeGolf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As easy as that

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      👊👊👊

  • @maxwired2235
    @maxwired2235 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're so good at explaining movement! Starting with this setup, in conjunction with a trigger move, do you like the idea of pulling the right scapula back to move the right shoulder around a stable spine to the the back of your neck which would allow the left shoulder to move down and behind the ball, or do you like pushing with the left shoulder? I find pulling using big muscles vs pushing keeps the upper torso rotation on track. Would problems result doing this? I got this concept from this short.Thx Trevor🤛 th-cam.com/users/shortsxky_oNbavvM?si=-_Nnv06wY_obAlBl

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In a perfect world I like creating balance in movements and they work in (lead side first trail side second). It can still be done together and in other ways for sure though! Generally one side is pushing and then the other side is pulling (this is both backswing and downswing). I’ll take a look at this short you sent as well! Thanks for sharing and the comment/ question!

  • @malharazy
    @malharazy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    MR AWARENESS

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank my man! 👊👊👊

  • @RomanEmpire16
    @RomanEmpire16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I give a suggestion from a viewer video is a bit long I personally like anywhere from five to eight minutes think you could have broke this one into three

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you much for the feedback! I’ll take that into account for my next vids I shoot! Appreciate it a lot!

  • @AAkCN1
    @AAkCN1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    need to try this

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      👊👊👊

  • @livingbetterthanlary
    @livingbetterthanlary 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just out of curiosity, should i also be practicng these drill with a driver in my hand? Wondering if i need to find the same feeling in my driver backswing. Thanks!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The shoulder still work around the spine with driver! The setup is different for sure though!

  • @pskay
    @pskay 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So are you saying during your takeaway you're actively thinking of your lead shoulder and arm to get off the ball and then you transfer the rest of the backswing responsibilities to your trail shoulder and arm? As if you were you tossing a ball from your left hand to your right hand, you're 100% transferring your lead to your trail with no more thought or activation of the lead side?

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’d be a great way looking at it for sure! Lead side starts the motion and trail side finished it in the backswing!

  • @gerrygrabinski7042
    @gerrygrabinski7042 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yo Trevor!!! Love the videos. Not too sure about the shorts. Hey...why aren't you a devotee of Stack & Tilt? I mean everything you talk about is related to S&T.Why don't you come out and agree with it? Thanks. Gerry

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t disagree w/ S&T as all. I think there are a lot of great concepts here and it is one of the most misunderstood concepts. Andy Plummer is hands down the smartest guy I’ve ever been lucky enough to spend time around and with!
      The coolest thing about golf is there is more than one way to swing it and sync things up for players! Diving into the anatomical side and learning more how the body moves functionally is so much fun!
      Thanks for the feedback and please reach out/ let me know if you need anything!

  • @Jdeneik
    @Jdeneik หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really excellent instruction!!! Thank you!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much! Greatly appreciate it! 🙏🙏

  • @michaeldodd6864
    @michaeldodd6864 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Clay Ballard has been talking about this for some time now.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That’s great! Glad to hear honestly! I think it’s something more should be educating people on!

  • @rjroth4869
    @rjroth4869 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What an amazing lesson!! Can't wait to get started. Of course you know that just about EVERY teacher out there teaches posture as bending from the hip socket/sticking the butt out, not bending from the waist. But when I bend from the waist/chest more down, I can't believe the increased range of motion and ease of turn I get. Plus, just experimenting with this, I find this moves my swing bottom toward the target about 3" and makes it much flatter & I imagine more forgiving. So many benefits!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So cool to hear! Appreciate the feedback and comment here! So glad to hear it’s helped! If you ever need anything at all, please don’t hesitate to reach out! Thanks again!

  • @Allabertina
    @Allabertina 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    To me this is the best explanation of how to get the shoulder inclination right in the golfswing, on the tube! If I can add from own experience: the flat shoulder plane doesn't create torque, because it is the result of the avoidance of resistance in the backswing. As a consequence of lack of torque, there is no speed in the downswing. The torque I'm referring to arises when, in creating the backswing with the correct shoulder inclination with the required resistance in the trail knee to sliding laterally, your behind will start turning towards the target and a tremendous amount of resistance gets built up in the trail leg. Now you don't need a conscious weight shift on the downswing. As soon as you have reached the top and you begin the downswing you will be on the front leg and you just have to stay down and swing through. And there's the powerfully released draw.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Love it!!! Thank you for sharing and good this helped! I appreciate the feedback and comment here! Let me know if you ever need anything!
      TS

  • @PaulBridges-k9k
    @PaulBridges-k9k 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How long did it take to get use to?

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It takes time! I spend just as much time if not more making rehearsals so it is more feel oriented vs thought

  • @gpe11111
    @gpe11111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video as always! Specially how things in the set up affect the swing. Btw, does the chest point lower or higher as the club gets longer (driver)?

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The lower the swing plane is the more up it will naturally sit like w/ driver

  • @paull544
    @paull544 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Completely sorted my backswing out !! Thank you

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome! Glad to hear!

  • @rossmasters3281
    @rossmasters3281 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would put (Retraction/Protraction) in the title or something. I saw an AMG video about these two movements and could NOT find anything else about it till I hunted you down. Thanks!!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you much for the input!!!! I’ll keep that in mind for sure for future vids! Thanks!

  • @RobertHunt-x4j
    @RobertHunt-x4j 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Way too complicated. Just try rotating the shoulders vertically and not horizontally. See Alex Elliot videos.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sorry. Just trying to add clarity for the player to understand via video form of how I see movements actually function as opposed to just saying turn (which can mean many different things to players).
      If you ever have any questions, please don’t hesitate to reach out. Happy to answer them in a more simplified format for you.
      TS

  • @johnt697
    @johnt697 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow... tried the methods described, and I cant believe how great I was hitting my irons... It almost feels like I hardly need to turn my torso. I have never heard this anywhere else. This is pretty amazing... I have to record my swing to see how different it looks.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So glad to hear how this has helped you! Thanks so much for sharing! I greatly appreciate the feedback and kind words!
      If you ever need anything or have any questions, please do let me know!
      TS

  • @dbl88888
    @dbl88888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic! I have been having difficulty getting the right chin under shoulder posture.
    This helped a lot. Excellent explanation and Drill.
    No one should start hitting balls unless they got this right. Thank you. You are an excellent teacher!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for the kind words! I greatly appreciate it! Couldn’t agree more with you! Thanks for the comment and let me know if you ever need anything!

  • @AmmoDude
    @AmmoDude ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great lesson and swing concept. Most people/instructors focus on making the back swing with the legs or hips. Your lesson makes so much sense (to me) to focus on the shoulder rotation. Since my hands are connected to the club, arms to the hands, shoulders to the arms, I just can not see how working the feet, legs or hips can ever make a proper back swing. I will work on this in my living room and then on the range tomorrow. Two thumbs up!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you much! Appreciate the feedback! Please let me know how it goes and if you have any questions!

  • @kenbehzadi1185
    @kenbehzadi1185 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shoulder tilt extremely important part of golf swing. Thanks

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Couldn’t agree more!!!

  • @PaulCampbell-i7h
    @PaulCampbell-i7h ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't understand how you are so intune with the questions I am asking myself on a weekly basis ... whenever I question a particular part of my swing, you manage to post a video about it! Thankyou! Continue the great content (and ESP)!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Trying to help shed some light on topics that I see cause the most issues for players I see in person. Also, taking video requests has helped a bunch for what players really want to understand more. Thanks for the comment and feedback! I’ll keep these coming and glad this is helping out!

  • @rickyli1746
    @rickyli1746 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow !!!! this is really great tip , i have been playing golf for 20 year finally i understand how the shoulder works, thanks to you i can enjoy this game a lot more now😀

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So great to hear! This is exactly what makes teaching golf so much fun for me is comments and light bulb moments for players like you! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @roypiligian3495
    @roypiligian3495 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Trevor, what a GREAT lesson and best explanation on shoulder turn in the swing I’ve seen on the internet! Thank you, so glad I’ve found your channel.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much! Appreciate the feedback greatly! Let me know if you ever need anything or have any questions!

  • @TheBodhiforlife
    @TheBodhiforlife ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic lesson! I've been struggling with feeling stuck on the down swing but this helps to keep my arms out in front of me while making a full turn of my shoulders

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Hope this helps and I appreciate the comment and feedback!

  • @GustapoGomez
    @GustapoGomez 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Best teacher on TH-cam. Very articulate. Well done Trev

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you so much! Greatly appreciate the compliment! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @ericglass398
    @ericglass398 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tutorial! Look fwd to working on this; many thanks for the lesson

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you much! Appreciate the feedback

  • @jeffreyclevenger9000
    @jeffreyclevenger9000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great reinforcement of what we worked on! Thanks, Jeff

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes sir!!! Thanks and let me know how things are plugging along!

  • @pbateman62
    @pbateman62 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m going through this at the minute after having a get the shoulder down lesson and I honestly nearly listed all my equipment today I could have honestly cried haha. Feel like like losing my mind

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hopefully this helps and gives you a better understanding. I’m sorry to hear you had a bad lesson experience with this. Hopefully this shed some light on it.

    • @pbateman62
      @pbateman62 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tsgolf oh it helped all right! Thank you so much. It’s a subscribe from me!

  • @DAukeman
    @DAukeman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome. Is this the same feel throughout the bag? I have always struggled with the woods, as I feel "stuck" through the downswing, but will certainly be giving this a go. Just curious as to your thoughts as I progress woth the given drills.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Should be the same feel throughout the bag. Longer irons and woods may have a slightly later hinge pattern closer to the top of the swing.
      Stick could be coming from setup either being to close or to far from the ball. I’ll attach a setup video link.

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What Causes Early Extension? | Part 1 Of Early Extension Series
      th-cam.com/video/LWTxCHal0xg/w-d-xo.html

    • @DAukeman
      @DAukeman ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tsgolf Thank you! The videos are great. Hopefully sometime this year I'll be able to get down for an in-person lesson

  • @keithdonovan3762
    @keithdonovan3762 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Trevor! I have an issue lately with inconsistent contact that I haven’t had all year and this video should help.
    Question- is there a thought process or feel in the downswing (e.g. reverse the shoulders from where they were)?

    • @chadminnick8758
      @chadminnick8758 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great explanation about chest up at address. I’ve struggled with horrible swing path a long time. Is there a video lesson covering the shoulder plane during transition and into downswing? Thanks for the wonderful content!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The shoulders will work symmetrical to what they did in the backswing (going back into a hip flexion and a forward bend in the transition of the downswing). I’ll add this to video content that I’ll shoot in the future for ya!

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ll add that to my list of vids to shoot now for ya!

  • @ronkort8927
    @ronkort8927 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice presentation

    • @tsgolf
      @tsgolf  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!!!