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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2022
- In this one, I am going nuts and try to print at 2K mm/s. Will it succeed ? or fail ?
What do I use to print at that speed?
Printers:
-full Vz235 printer kit: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dld...
-Full Vz330 printer kit: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DkF...
Printer Parts:
- Waterpump kit I use here: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DEt...
-240mm Radiator: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DFO...
-120mm x2 fan: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DEJ...
-Vz-HextrudORT watercooled : s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DEZ...
-Goliath watercooled : s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDP...
-Fly Super 8: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_A8mOXD
-Drivers s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AFDBtp
- XY Motors: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_9iN6y9
-Alu Water cooling blocks: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DlK...
-Fittings: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DEV...
-water cooling kit: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dnc...
-48V PSU: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dcf...
-CPAP fan: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dmk...
-CPAP tube: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_A9rUYd
(complete part list can be found on the BOM list on github link below)
-Eibos filament dryer: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dc7...
Full VzBoT Printer project: (BOM, cad, stl): github.com/VzBot3D/
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I'm sitting here having troubles printing at 50mm/s and this guy is doing 2000... Kudos and good job!
u are not only one i broke my nozzel on 80mms and damaged bad 10 cm in middle.. and this guy fliyng on 2000
Honestly: The pinnacle of FDM printing is happening RIGHT HERE !
Congratulations again and keep it up - it's so cool to watch the progress on your channel since the early beginnings, which was not long ago!
Awesome guy, awesome tech, awesome printers 👍
It means a lot to me brother. thanks a lot
@@Vez3D Musk of 3dp
In life, you can count on the fingers of one hand the amount of people that you admire for their talent in a field for which you are yourself passionate about. Vez, you probably occupy 2 or 3 fingers on that hand of mine. Congratulations! A lot of work, sweat and raw talent goes into the long journey that led you to this result. Printer performance, knowledge, videography and let's be honest! That Acting!!! Beau bonhomme et vraiment plaisant à t'écouter mon chum! ♥️ lots of love from myself and the HevORT community to you and you VzBoT project. See ya, 😉livier.
Ahhhh you are so nice :) its the same for me. Lets rent a room asap!!!!
Vez and MirageC u guys rock!
@@therealbamtech I agree! those are the guys who made me rush into making my own 3d printer, wasted so much time trying to gain a bit of speed but.. thanks again the journey is awesome
@@Vez3D loooolllll youguys rock
(Oh, un québécois! 😄)
My boyfriend brought his Ender 3 couple months ago and I have fully fallen down the rabbit hole. Now with Klipper and a LOT of mods I'm happily going at 120 mm/s with great quality. Videos like these are nuts! Really sweet content!
I had my stock ender 3 printing at 110mm/s with excellent quality.
Vez, you have no idea how inspiring your videos are!
2000mm/s on a DYI printer - a you freaking kidding me?!!
That is insane, dude! Love it!
Insane layer stacking quality at that speed. Shows that the printer has excellent Z Kinematics.
Isn't z the easiest thing to do for this print? I'm impressed by the extruder and hotend firstly, then the xy speed is mind blowing, just a blur 🚀
Vez just adds another „0“ to - what I thougt - an already good print speed and that beast of a printer just simply does it. Respect, more than just impressive!
@26:49 The pattern you are seeing is the extruder stepper extruding the plastic in pulses instead of smoothly. Once you accelerate to a high enough speed you end up seeing the individual pulses of plastic from the stepper resolution. You see exactly the same effect with extremely slow flow rates on extremely thin layer heights, where the stepper isn't able to extrude in small enough microsteps and it comes out in pulses also. Highly geared steppers help reduce that effect, it essentially increases the resolution of your extruder steps.
Im not so sure :) how can you explain that it was gone with minor adjustement settings...and how to explain it was only happening on the first pass and not on the way back?
while that does sound logical, im not sure these pulses would make it trough that huge melt zone.
I initially thought this was correct. But wouldn't that result in a similar pattern, but under-extruded?
Looking closely at the print, things look over-extruded rather than under-extruded.
@@2mD not if the extruder wasn't extruding enough plastic, if it wasn't extruding enough plastic then the effect would be amplified
@@Mehecanogeesir oooooo very interesting conclusion, I'm just mystified as to what the cause could be, my original thinking was that it wasn't extruding enough plastic and because of the nature of how stepper motors work i figured that was the plausible cause, sure gives something to think about though
You are the reason I tune and work so hard to gain every bit of speed on my voron and my volcomosq at quality. Thanks for all of the inspiration and congratulations! Truly these are the moments where we can see the future of what’s to come with this awesome community. Cheers to more fun and more learning!
It's not stupid if it works! You just keep finding ways to improve this platform and it's almost to the point to where every household of makers will have a VzBot of their own. I'm happy to be a part of this community as well, awesome work Vez! Just got my 5160HVs in, can't wait to put them in and try something stupid myself 😁
your subscribers count are well deserved, it's no surprise to me when you build up such excellent community here. recognize some of the shoutout names from speaking to those guys on the discord they're all really great people too. just always feel so far behind that i cannot afford parts (still yet) to start building my own VzBot. But your videos are so well done, to share what you are doing in a way which is so accessible, it's such a great substitute to not having a VzBot of my own. In the so until next time, always wishing you the best. And always learning so much from all you guys and this whole extended community (including also these neighboring communities of annex and hevort, and others). It really is a team effort, and your gratitude, it is also my gratitude.
You are a 3D printing mad scientist! I'm happy when I get 150 mm/s on my Prusa Mk3S+ hahaha. Keep up the awesome work, and thank you for contributing your awesomeness to the community :-)
150 is super fast for a bed slinger
@@srck4035 I just hit 100 on my custom steel mk3s+. Will definitely try for 150 after my reinforcements of my workbench and better place the printer and mount it to bench.
Im happy with 60mm/s haha
@@jakobwest4811 nothing wrong with that. I just want to see how far it can go.
love it bro keep it up im blown away with your quality and attention to detail in every part and every step !
"It's starting very slow, at 300 mm/s" - You made my CR-10 cry.
Congratulations Vez, that is an impressive achievement. You are pushing the limits. Keep up the amazing discovery you trailblazer you ; )
Congrats on the channel and the amazing print speed!! You Rock!!!
You have input shaping of some form, right?
As someone that’s been using floating point math for 40 years, I suspect you’re running into that as one of the issues: changing parameters a little bit can make surprising differences. I’ve seen something as a bug not be able to be machined due to 9 billionths of an inch making it not zero, when I worked for Hurco on CNC controller software.
I suspect you’ll run into weird boundary conditions and repeat patterns with combinations of flow rate and speeds, and changing things just a little bit will make huge differences in results.
That you’ve managed to get such results (which can destroy printers quickly!) is bonkers!
Yeah Klipper has a really nice and easy input shaping program integrated into it. Can set the parameters either through a printed test part you take measurements off of or an accelerometer. I have used it on both my printers and have seen a world of difference from it. Especially being able to print at night and not have everything in my closet resonating from the vibrations
Congrats on the 20k subs mate. Very well deserved 👍🇦🇺😊
Thank you for the shout out brother. I'm proud to be apart of this.
Wuuuhuuuu!!!
You're back! Seeing and hearing you is great again and now you explain sooooo much! So great, man! I really appreciate it sooo much! Cheers for all your work!
Just awesome, guys like you are the driving force behind innovation in 3d printing. Thank you for that and keep going? I’m building a VZbot330.. by the way I will be able to print sls in March ‘23 and will be happy to be part of the community👍👍
definately keep me posted on this :)
@@Vez3D Is your printer related to the Voron printers?
@@termgrecos3451 no. But some parts were inspired by voron yeah
Wow, and I was delighted to print on an Ender 3 at 110mm/s! This is super impressive, I hope that these kinds of speeds become mainstream (and a little quieter!) soon
Nice!!! Can't wait to see 2000mm/sec benchy. If you are able to, you could get someone with those really high speed camera to film the tip of the nozzle at that speeds and see exactly what goes on, maybe that will help you tune things better. Maybe you know another youtuber that owns one of those bad boys...
impressive progress! 👏😎
thx
Glad to be a part of the journey!
I'm absolutely blown away!
It’s like a car in that past certain speeds you run into a completely different set of physics issues to deal with.
Incredibly impressive, just don’t let it burst into flames
Awesome job Simon!
hey Tom !!! thanks bro !! nice to see you here :) now you know how to find me anywhere
@@Vez3D Super impressed brother.
That is f****ng insane!! Btw love that CR3D PEI sheet!!!
My guess: the ripples are a result of the corexy mechanism. Straight movements like that are still a superposition of two DOF, where any deviations in the movement will cause lateral movement of the head. The toothed belts might also add some vibrations at those speeds.
Still really impressive that this works this well, those are some crazy speeds.
Dude freaking removed the mili from milimeters/s. That is amazing,how it can actually print something coherent.
Congrats man, you deserve 100 times more subs, would be a lot more complex to do the challenge tho
Wow this is just insane it's so fast probably too fast but this shows how much 3d printing has improved and to be able to print at this speed is just amazing and your passion shows in this video
بتعمل اي يا ابراهيم
Absolutely incredible.
Fist time seeing one of your videos. And my reaction was the same as yours. Just started giggling at the audacity every time it stepped up speed lmao. Good show sir
Dude. Maximum respect!
amazing work! 🙌
great and surprising performance was all my pleasure to see your printer get in at 2000mm/s !!!
I am adoring your machine!!! Solid AF! 😱😄 AND THAT VIDEO QUALITY!
Absolute madness, but very cool!
That is an incredible printer. I wish I could build something HALF that badass. Well done. Abbsolutely gorgeous technical piece of artwork.
You may have to build a solution to water cool the motors... but HOLY SNAP DRAGONS
*standing ovation*
What a crazy display of epicness 😎 call me crazy, and maybe this is because I work in a machine shop and see this stuff on metal, but those chatter lines are beautiful and I love the way they look. Cool video 🍻🍻
Congratulations Simon! So impressed with your results! Hope you will never stop with your project and just push it forward. Best DIY printer from first day of development. Soon starting to build my.
Is it possible to ask from you model which you are printing in this video please?
here: github.com/VzBoT3D/VzBoT-Vz235/tree/main/Assemblies%20%26%20STL/FlowTest
@@Vez3D Thanks a lot! tested it,max what i can get now from my printer is 1600mm/s on 30k.
So awesome Vez!! Great job ;)
Now do that print rotated 90 degrees! I wanna see that gantry being thrown around at 2000 mm/s like that!! :D
Holy shiz dude if I hadn’t been following this channel for awhile I never would have believed it.
Shoot, 500mm/sec still blows my mind
Really happy to see that! I hope in the future we can reach those speeds for actual printing. As far as i see the Motions system is fine, right? The only real limits are extrusion and cooling.
I printed 650mm/sec with 10k acceleration on my solidoodle 3 with PLA at 310C with a 0.35mm nozzle. the surface finish was like satin. the walls were pretty close to perfect. I had to put a lot of weight in the bottom of the printer and reinforce the bed against wiggling.
Congratulations! I really like the answer at 1:22 😀
Thank you for the joyful laughter in this video!
Finally, may I ask which slicer did you use to generate the testing print files?
The fact that using 0.55mm layer width and 120% extrusion ratio can get better print is interesting! Thanks!
Jesus. You are getting better surface quality at 2kmm/s than I am at 35mm/s. I love this, and I think it's a brilliant demonstration of how commitment and motivation can drive you to develop a 3D printer that does exactly what you want.
Thanks for sharing!
there is no such thing as "kmm". the prefixes are made in such way, that you use only one of them. in this case you need no prefix as it's 2 m/s
honestly , never seen such fast printing with this much amazing quality, the one you called WORST is best for me 🤣 WELL DONE
That was pretty freaking amazing! Well done sir. Felt like one of those moments in a space exploration movie where they are entering a worm hole or going for their 1st warp drive jump, ramping up their speed while watching all of ships diagnostics to see if they will make it 😂. I have considered attempting the use of an aluminum hardware kit for my Voron 2.4 R2. Do you have any experience with these, if there are noteworthy pros/cons and a reliable brand? I've seen many mixed reviews on tolerances with some companies out there within their reviews which increases my hesitation since they are not cheap. Keep up the great work and pushing those limits! (Sorry if you already did a review on the voron milled aluminum kits if I overlooked it)
Great work! What gcode viewer did you use at 19:05 ? It looks great
Great Job!
this is the coolest printer I've ever seen bro, nice work. This is what I think enders will look like in 10 years
Got my son an Ender 3 V2 for Christmas and got myself hooked - upgraded bed, springs to spacers, sherpa mini, dragon hf, Manta MK2 w/2x5015s, 60W heater, now easily doing 200mm/s at over 4500mm/s^2 accel - still tweaking and learning, but definitely planning a VzBoT build in the near future. Thanks!
I love your channel thank you it really made me want to build my own printer besides other reasons. I do have a question the gantry carbon fiber versus aluminum which one is lighter and which ones the best
It depends on a lot of factors
This is also really interesting from an economical point of view. Having fast printers can bring down the cost for print-on-demands.
_"Why the hell would you do this?"_ I think it's a bit like Formula One racing: Push a technology to its limits in an unnecessary way, in order to make discoveries which can be used practically.
So glad you went with milled aluminum.
WOW this is amazing Fast.. omg and your Printers looks soooo Awesome as well!! great job he
FINALLY, YESSS, BRO THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH
Congratulations!!!
I had walls like that on tpu. I had to reduce the speed and increase the layer height to get rid of it. maybe one or both of these would work to fix that. I wonder if it has to do with the plastic springing back or something like an elastic band.
well done VEZ!
Wow, it seems like a rocket 3d printer! 😅
An incredible speed and a good print resolution
😄😄😄absolutly crazy! nice job.
Incredible.
This is so clean, just beautiful, wont ask how much you spent on this 🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑
If you want to build it it will be arround 1500$
Hi. Is possible that those ripples, because of the speed, are the microsteps of the extruder motor?
I like your cam setup, what's the lens/camera pls?
Just started my vzbot build. Cant wait to join the high speed gang.
Of course printing speed is very important as it is also an indicator for capacity of better good printing quality as well.
Woohoo fun stuff!🥳
The ABS looks like that because it's inertia is greater than it's adhesion force at those speeds, meaning it's still in motion when being applied to the previous layer and potentially with enough force to shift the previous layer slightly as well. Requires additional data.
What a great project, i've bought an x5sa and i'm looking to convert it to a vzbot. does the print size retain it's original dimensions(330x330x400)?
The std 2 motor version yes.. the awd you lose 15min Y
WOW! Merci pour cette belle machine et de toujours repousser les limites de l'impression 3D! Est-ce que tu diffuse tes données sur certains forums pour aider la communauté? Continu ton bon travail!
Hey what lubrication do you use for your linear rail carriages?
Mooore, more, we need more
Wow. This is a crazy printer. First time I’ve encountered it. I need to learn more about it. Should I build this instead of a voron?
I'm very interested in purchasing a pre built unit exactly like yours or at least a 100% complete kit. I don't really have the time to mess around sourcing all these parts on my own.
we are working on it, and we are very close to releasing it :)
@@Vez3D i can just visit France to buy one, so you don't have to deal with patents if any.
@@Vez3D Kit for the 235 or bigger as well? And another question. If you would build a 330 right now... would scale the 235 or stick to the old design (just with AWD)?
@@ResistanceLion Vez is Canadian (Im proud to say!)
@@pmcquay1 Wow, then i need shipping
Hi there, maybe one day I'll test of of these in my chanel LOL!!! I think the pattern is due to DRAG on the fillament as it lays on the print, maybe try to cheat the slicer changing the E-steps/mm making it extrude 70mm3 thinking it is extruding 60mm3... and as you said without cooling look better and it just keeps going to that direction of drag in my head!!! Another thing that leads me to that is that the second pass looks better because instead of air it is printing near a hotter surface(plastic itself)... just throwing ideas here!!! Love your content!!! Congrats on your 20K mark!!! Best regards from Brazil!!!
PS: your 20K will pass my 30K in no time!!! Next year I bet you will be close to 100K while I'll be chearing my 40s LOL
wow, thats good. Could you print something like perhaps the 3d-toaster-test with 2k ?
Loved this !
Since flow rate is the main limit, did you know Bondtech released Volcano-sized CHT nozzles ?
Only you decide if it’s worth it, but it could be an occasion to make Volcano-compatible LSD units !
yeah im aware :) but I dont think it will give it a lot more honestly. Since the melt zone is already very long. And from what I could see from the tests its not a big upgrade from normal CHT.. like 10%. I still prefer to keep standard v6 type to have full compatibility
Are you using a possibly worn out CHT? I get that kind of artifact when the nozzle orifice has worn down to be wider than the line width and the layers are thin. Especially on overhangs but it happens on non overhang too.
Brand new cht
Watching you doing these crazy speed making me exciting, that's why I'm building a VzBot, but unfortunately there are not much guide about building Vzbot330, instead is all about 235.
But I'm going forward and I hope you doing some tutorials and upgrading to the 330 version.
Good luck
Check on github..there are guides :)
@@Vez3D I checked them all, even asked on discord, some small things are difficult to figure out. I saw in your electronics Vz235 video you did scanned/print a power supply on the paper as a template to find out those holes, I want to do the same for the aluminum, Acrylic panels but I don't know how to print the CAD into the actual size image//pdf to print on the paper printer??? any way you may know I will be happy to try. I just found a way to export to PDF so I'll try it out .
Love your work
@@Vez3D I tried but didn't come in the actual size 🤔
@@dumdumreviews7436 printing will depend on a lot factor when set your print setup.
Thats way to crazy... bro i love this Videos
have you considered chipset waterblocks, that is WBs meant for computer chipsets and mounting those to the bottom/back of those XY motors. Though water cooling stepper motors with PC water cooling parts might sound insane.
does that X linear rail heat up at these kind of speeds?
I'm happy with you! 🥳 🥰
good stuff friend. keep up .
Not gonna lie, took me like 2 minutes to notice your little face cam down in the bottom left haha. Great videos, keep it up brother
HOOOOW bruh HOW can the print head not break, and the belts, and the arms, and everything this blows my mind
as someone stepping back into the hobby after like a 4 year hiatus, that is fucking incredible and my monoprice mini is feeling very self-conscious xD
do we finally start to measure the speed in meters per second instead of millimeters?
With the graphical model at 13:50 I think you can just y shift the graph do that the 0 is located at your corner speed. I may be wrong but I think that would work
Amazing! Is it 0.8 rubby nozzle though? In theory it speeds printing x2...sorry if you've said this in the video i've missed it.
bozzle nozzle and Cht nozzle here
Since the pattern is so regular I would gess it has to do with pressure changes in the extruder that happens due to the steps in the filament feeder motor. Those would be invisible on slower speeds but at these extreme speeds each step of the feeder motor creates a visable preassure change and a unstable flow. Could be fixable with higher resolution stepper motor or higher gear reduction?
This is very cool print video my Friend😃🙂🤝🤝🤝
Pla probably will work better and probably running temp on extruder bit higher than normal to keep up flow?
No..pla is worse from my tests
I liked! thanks for sharing
I'm in awe